WEBVTT - Moving in with Stephen Colletti • EP 902

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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<v Speaker 1>that high school drama. Girl Drama, Girl, all about them

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<v Speaker 1>high school queens.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take you for a ride, and our comic.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl sharing for the right team.

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<v Speaker 3>Drama Queens, my girl girl fashion, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Your tough girl.

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<v Speaker 2>You could sit with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drahn the

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<v Speaker 1>Queens Drama Queens.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys. I'm super amped, deeply in my feelings because we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting towards the end and it makes me want to

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<v Speaker 3>sob but also excited because I think we're in a

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<v Speaker 3>juicy place in the story. We are here for season nine,

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<v Speaker 3>episode two, in the Room where You Sleep. The original

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<v Speaker 3>air date was January eighteenth, twenty twelve, and we have

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<v Speaker 3>a family member guest friend of the pod here with

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<v Speaker 3>us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it away, Stephen, excited to be here, you guys. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's season nine. You guys made it. We did it

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<v Speaker 2>finish line as you could. It's it's there in the distance,

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<v Speaker 2>you could see it. I mean, we only did about

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know seventeen eighteen episodes. Actual viewing episodes with

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<v Speaker 2>some Q and as for the Lagoda Beach Podcast, but

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, I don't know what what number episode you're on,

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<v Speaker 2>but honestly, bravo, bravo.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, it's a lot because there were one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eighty seven episodes of One Tree Hill. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>we've done a recap for every episode and Q and

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<v Speaker 3>a's with you guys, and like special live shows, the

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<v Speaker 3>live show, and.

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<v Speaker 2>How isn't seeing it? Everybody grew up before your eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>like from season one to oh my gosh, she's nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's a it's almost ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of crazy. Also, God, this show started in

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<v Speaker 3>a time where the fashion was just so bad, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it was so bad, like where were the tops of

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<v Speaker 3>our pants? We were just missing inches. It was wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad we are where we are today. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>concur guest of honor, want to read this ynopsis for

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<v Speaker 3>the folks at home?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Sure, alright, you guys, Welcome to season nine, episode two.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is the synopsis. Brooke discusses a new business venture

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<v Speaker 2>with her father, as Julian stresses about his own investment,

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<v Speaker 2>Quinn convinces Clay to get help, and Millie struggles to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with mouth. Meanwhile, Chris Keller the makes Alex

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<v Speaker 2>an offer she may not be able to refuse, and

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan volunteers to scout in Europe, leaving Dan with Haley

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<v Speaker 2>and Jamie.

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<v Speaker 5>This episode it was great because there was stuff I

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<v Speaker 5>really liked. There was stuff I really disliked. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 5>it's easy because there's only like one real source spot

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<v Speaker 5>for me, and that is, like, what the hell are

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<v Speaker 5>we doing to poor Lee Norris? And what is this offensive, lame,

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<v Speaker 5>half baked attempt.

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<v Speaker 2>At a storyline.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember it happening and even and being like what's

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<v Speaker 5>going on? And Lee was just sort of like, I don't,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't, I don't know, and I'm now watching the

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<v Speaker 5>episode it is. It's just so we're getting a little

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<v Speaker 5>ahead of ourselves a bolt. Let's just jump in because

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<v Speaker 5>now I'm hot in the biscuit about it. I I

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<v Speaker 5>don't understand because first of all, the first like Jerry

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<v Speaker 5>and uh Millie are talking about the station like it's

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<v Speaker 5>some huge thing. And then he for first of all,

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<v Speaker 5>he walks into his first shot and he is he's

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<v Speaker 5>double fisting a hogie. I just thought like it was

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<v Speaker 5>so hat on a hat, like he's already in a

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<v Speaker 5>in like the air quotes like a fat suit.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, It's like he's why is like, so he

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<v Speaker 5>gained some weight. He didn't look like morbidly obese or

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<v Speaker 5>like he was unhealthy. He just looked like a guy

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<v Speaker 5>who had gained some weight.

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<v Speaker 2>And like it was this just.

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<v Speaker 5>Weird, stupid, like and the bit apparently is that he's

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<v Speaker 5>gained weight. Like that's the punchline and we can't talk

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<v Speaker 5>about it with it. I just Lee's so good and

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<v Speaker 5>the character of mouth is so interesting and unique, and

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<v Speaker 5>the best we could do was put him in a

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<v Speaker 5>fat suit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a real weird choice. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if this bumped you, but when Millie's talking to Jerry

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<v Speaker 3>and is like, I'm worried for his health and this,

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<v Speaker 3>that and the other, and Jerry basically alludes to how like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we've all struggled, like because she went to rehab,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, well, wait a second, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 3>what is this? And truly I wonder did they just

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<v Speaker 3>run out of storylines? Did they run out of creativity?

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<v Speaker 3>Because these two having a super highly rated morning show

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<v Speaker 3>together is adorable and a whole universe that we could

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<v Speaker 3>be exploring, but the gag is that he's eating ice

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<v Speaker 3>cream on TV and saying he's not going to share

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<v Speaker 3>with his girlfriend and got fat, like.

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<v Speaker 5>And there is no connective tissue between what's happening now

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<v Speaker 5>and anything that we have established with Mouth over the

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<v Speaker 5>previous eight seasons. It's not like we've alluded to maybe

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<v Speaker 5>him having a thyroid issue or like he's battled weight

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<v Speaker 5>his whole life. It's just it's like apropos of nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>This thing just happens. And it's what's so jarring about

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<v Speaker 5>it is Season nine opened so hot, like the teaser

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<v Speaker 5>was everyone like, the steaks literally couldn't have been higher.

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<v Speaker 5>Mouth's not even there. Okay, fine, but then we go

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<v Speaker 5>into episode two and there is so much about this

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<v Speaker 5>episode that is really masterful storytelling. Yeah, the Dan Scott

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<v Speaker 5>of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, these things that.

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<v Speaker 5>Are happening, Clay and Quinn, you know, Alex and Chase,

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<v Speaker 5>and then it's just like it's completely off kilter. And

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<v Speaker 5>then there's Mouth and what I remember I remember back then,

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<v Speaker 5>I honestly remember asking Lee is uh is our boss?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he pissed at you?

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<v Speaker 5>Is with you? Like? What's because it was it was

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<v Speaker 5>because clearly our writer's room was very good at storytelling.

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<v Speaker 5>They provided pretty awesome stories for everyone so far this season,

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<v Speaker 5>and it was just like, which one of these does

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<v Speaker 5>not belong?

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<v Speaker 2>And yep, I didn't get it, man. And it's so

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<v Speaker 2>funny because there's some some moments where I'm watching where

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<v Speaker 2>and it is nice throughout this season where there's some

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<v Speaker 2>lighter stuff with with the Chris Keller and Chase of

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<v Speaker 2>it all. It's a little bit of kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a Buddy Cup thing that they that she have going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and if sometimes I'd be like, does this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>is it taken out of some of these like really

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<v Speaker 2>again well written stuff that good storylines, what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>with Clay Quinn and with Brooke as well, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and of course with with Dan and and Nathan in

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like there's some there's some intense stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden it goes pops over to

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<v Speaker 2>one of these scenes and I'd be like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a little silly, but maybe it's fun to

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<v Speaker 2>have a little bit laugh here. But then I also

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<v Speaker 2>felt that when you get into the scenes with with

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<v Speaker 2>Lee and his suit and it was just like I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>my mind was like, this feels like an idea that

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<v Speaker 2>came up when honestly somebody might have been like drunk,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's somehow stuck and and and sod and it

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of made it much further that it shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>And especially yeah, when you think about Lee and his

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<v Speaker 2>character in the show, and I mean it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a it's ultimately, I think, a complimentally because it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, he can handle this, you know, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>have Lee do it because he's professional and he'll do it,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll and he'll he'll rise to the occasion and

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<v Speaker 2>he'll commit. Yeah, it's and it's just unfortunate because it

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<v Speaker 2>does feel like it doesn't it doesn't belong well.

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<v Speaker 3>And part of why it bothers me and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I remember having the same feeling men, like what fight

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<v Speaker 3>did you get in with the head hauncho to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with this? And I think what irked me watching it

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<v Speaker 3>is there is no drama currently in Brook and Julian's world,

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<v Speaker 3>and there we have great buddy comedy stuff as characters,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm watching how well they're writing for us

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<v Speaker 3>and how just sort of baseless the writing is for

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<v Speaker 3>Lee and Lisa, who are credible comedians, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>so obviously you know how to tell a joke. Why

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<v Speaker 3>can't you just tell jokes for both couples? What are

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<v Speaker 3>we doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the up. They would have like three

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<v Speaker 2>lines and then the scene, the scene would be over

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<v Speaker 2>like this is yeah, I don't I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so brief. It was very very odd, very very odd.

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<v Speaker 5>And you're saying like it's a credit to Lee, and

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<v Speaker 5>you're right, I mean, because Lee sold it, he committed,

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<v Speaker 5>But it was a disservice to the show and to

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<v Speaker 5>the fans because you took the character of Mouth, who

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<v Speaker 5>is so integral to the show. He's like the moral

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<v Speaker 5>compass in a lot of ways, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 5>made him a punchline that wasn't even funny. And then unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 5>you tied Milly to it because she's his partner, so

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<v Speaker 5>now she's stuck in these like very like lopsided scenes

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<v Speaker 5>that don't make sense where there are no steaks or no.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like it's because I.

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<v Speaker 5>Love both of them as actors, and I just I

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<v Speaker 5>just found myself every time we had to cut back

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<v Speaker 5>and watch them, it was like watching good actors do

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<v Speaker 5>their best with really material.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I will say hats off to Lee because I

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<v Speaker 3>was so shocked at how funny the moment was where

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<v Speaker 3>he kissed her on the cheek and goes, what got

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<v Speaker 3>a little mail on you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if it was scripted or not,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't And and that's exactly it. Like the

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<v Speaker 3>the level of leaning into it. It's such a testament

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<v Speaker 3>to them. But when you have actors as good as

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<v Speaker 3>those two, just write them better.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, watching Lee over the years in that show,

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<v Speaker 2>like there was never a day where if I caught

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<v Speaker 2>some of his scenes that that dude was ever offe Like,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing fades him. He's such a vet, such a pro.

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<v Speaker 2>I always enjoyed watching him because he came so prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>He was never really phased by any that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's it's a ton of people in trick a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on, or just you know, him and Millie's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sitting together. Yeah, he just was nails all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. And so I that's what I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>watching I was like, man, they give it to him,

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<v Speaker 2>they I get you could handle it. Yeah, he would

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<v Speaker 2>rise to the occasion, but yeah, it was, Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was interesting And don't rememberactly how that came about

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<v Speaker 2>or what the story was, but I'm curious to know

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<v Speaker 2>who's bad idea continue to push through and actually make

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<v Speaker 2>it into the script.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's It feels like it had to be someone

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<v Speaker 5>higher up pushing it through, because I just find it

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<v Speaker 5>hard to believe that with the talent in our writer's

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<v Speaker 5>room that no one thought they couldn't beat that storyline.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's like the best joke wins. There's no

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<v Speaker 5>way that that talented group of writers went can't top that. Nope,

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<v Speaker 5>that's that's it. That's the pinnacle of creative storytelling. Yeah, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>So that was That was kind of my main My

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<v Speaker 5>main gripe is just like, yeah, they deserve better and

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<v Speaker 5>they're so good, and yet we're having him do this and.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember where it goes, but my goodness, I

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<v Speaker 3>hope it doesn't stay for too long.

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<v Speaker 5>Same and I thank you because I lost my train thought.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I was gonna say is I don't remember

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<v Speaker 5>where this goes, so I I so hope that in

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<v Speaker 5>a few episodes I'm able to go I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>It actually was a great foil for something else. I hope,

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<v Speaker 5>I hope I get to eat Crow on this, But

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<v Speaker 5>because I don't, I'm just reacting to what I know,

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<v Speaker 5>which is like just this episode, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>come on, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I remember Lee kind of like because I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna go on for a couple episodes. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>watch ahead too much, but I remember that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he has to go to work now a couple hours earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>his first up, and the call time is six thirty

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody. He's in there at like four thirty in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning. Because a lot of our days are club together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like if you see the scenes between Millie and Mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're gonna shoot all that in one day, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you know they're gonna be there all day and

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna start early, and Lee's going to work. I mean, honestly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going. He's first, probably one of the first people

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<v Speaker 2>to the yeah, to the studios to do all that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's another reason why it was confusing, you know, because

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't as though they just realized, oh, we're over

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<v Speaker 5>budget and we need to find what's a storyline that

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<v Speaker 5>will cost us zero dollars. No, they had to design

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<v Speaker 5>a custom suit around his body, which is not cheap.

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<v Speaker 3>And make prosthetics for his face and neck.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's actually it's a storyline that's going to cost

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<v Speaker 5>more than a normal storyline. So again, it just it

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<v Speaker 5>didn't make sense because it's it wasn't like, well, we're

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<v Speaker 5>saving a ton of money here, so it's actually sort

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<v Speaker 5>of a necessary band aid. It's like, right, no, this

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<v Speaker 5>is costing more than arguably all of the other storylines

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<v Speaker 5>because those are just locations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen that said, The rest of the episode was a banger.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed, loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that that caught me was like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>what a perfect kind of grenade to throw into this

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<v Speaker 2>last season with the arrival of one Harry Johnson, mister

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Keller. Uh you know, watching him, it's he's so good,

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<v Speaker 2>so fine. I've heard, you know, I'd heard over the

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<v Speaker 2>years we've never worked together, and heard all the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>about him, and to have the opportunity to work with

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<v Speaker 2>him in this season and see him up close a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>What a fun character. Yeah, what a great character that

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<v Speaker 2>he just he rocked and he's nothing like Chris Keller.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's what's so cool just I mean, he's such

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<v Speaker 2>a sweetheart, such a good dude, and Chris Keller is

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<v Speaker 2>such at douche, and he knocks it out of the park.

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<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes that that works best, like someone who's

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<v Speaker 3>so kind playing someone who's not it. There's something that

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<v Speaker 3>happens in the energetic alchemy where the jokes get funnier.

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<v Speaker 3>And what killed me about this episode in particular the

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<v Speaker 3>way he comes in in nine oh one is so good.

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<v Speaker 3>But the best gag in this episode is that even

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<v Speaker 3>though he's the worst, he's making everyone around him better.

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<v Speaker 3>He's making Alex his music better. He's alone with Chuck

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<v Speaker 3>for five minutes and he has scored Chuck's show tune

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<v Speaker 3>like every single time you leave him and hope he

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<v Speaker 3>gets what's coming to him when you get back to him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's made someone's day. And it's just it's it's comedic poetry.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. And Tyler again commits to the bit

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<v Speaker 3>so hard that you can't help but love him even

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<v Speaker 3>though you kind of want to, like give him the

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<v Speaker 3>double eyepoke that my kids used to do to each

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<v Speaker 3>other in the fifties.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is.

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<v Speaker 5>Another testament to just how well written and well thought

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<v Speaker 5>through this episode was that, Yeah, they did this amazing

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<v Speaker 5>twofer that started off with a hilarious joke, which is

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<v Speaker 5>that Chris Keller wrote the freaking toaster pastry jingle that

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<v Speaker 5>n was singing last year.

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<v Speaker 2>He's saying, so that blew my mind. That alone.

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<v Speaker 5>I just thought, like, this is so funny that, like

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<v Speaker 5>this infamous song, we're actually finding out this infamous character wrote,

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<v Speaker 5>which is like perfectly on brand, right, And I thought

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<v Speaker 5>that was it. But no, because then that actually became

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<v Speaker 5>the device for Alex to sort of take a cheap

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<v Speaker 5>shot at him, for us to get a glimpse at

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<v Speaker 5>the actual vulnerability of Chris Keller. And that was such

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<v Speaker 5>a good moment because Tyler is such a good actor

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<v Speaker 5>that how do you not love getting to see him

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<v Speaker 5>drop his guard and be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, him getting to be vulnerable and speak about regret

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<v Speaker 3>and to own it kind of veneer off of No,

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<v Speaker 3>everything I do is great, and that you know that

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<v Speaker 3>pays my rent and dea da da da to drop

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<v Speaker 3>it and be human. It plants that little seed that

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<v Speaker 3>you see in Alex. For the rest of the episode,

0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.040
<v Speaker 3>she goes back to Julian for advice, which we haven't

0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 3>seen her do in Why you Know. It's this thing

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<v Speaker 3>where you get what's germinated in her mind based on

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<v Speaker 3>his vulnerability, and it's a better device than if he

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<v Speaker 3>had just been like the cocky guy saying some you know,

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<v Speaker 3>passing off some shtick and making her self conscious. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the vulnerability about the opportunities he let go that make

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<v Speaker 3>her afraid to let something go. And I thought, like,

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<v Speaker 3>how refreshing and new that moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad he brought that moment up because I'd written

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<v Speaker 2>down as one of my favorite moments of the show

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<v Speaker 2>was that right when you're saying the guard comes down,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, you see the vulnerability. It really gives it

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<v Speaker 2>out a layer to the Chris Keller of it all,

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<v Speaker 2>which was really really well done.

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<v Speaker 5>And they did such a good job of actually making

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<v Speaker 5>him three dimensional, you know, the fact that he is

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<v Speaker 5>good at his job, and they show us how he

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<v Speaker 5>does it, you know, so he demonstrates value. He's not

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<v Speaker 5>just there to be an asshole. And then we see

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<v Speaker 5>this glimpse into his vulnerability and him actually sharing his mistakes,

0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.399
<v Speaker 5>you know, hopefully for the betterment of Alex all of

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<v Speaker 5>that just fleshed him out so much, which makes him

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<v Speaker 5>that much more lovable and just awesome as a character.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's just so funny. He's just so damn Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I called him, I was like, Buddy, I'm loving

0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.280
<v Speaker 5>watching you on this show because like, like like you said, Steven,

0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.119
<v Speaker 5>he is one of the sweetest men in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the best.

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<v Speaker 5>He's nothing like Chris Keller. But oh my god, does

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<v Speaker 5>he play a douchebag so believable and just so well.

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<v Speaker 2>And make him so likable you can't mean there of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there's those moments where you're like, oh the can Chris Keller,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what an ass? What an ass? But then there

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<v Speaker 2>are these other moments when show that vulnerability or I

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<v Speaker 2>mean even at the end you listening to him sing

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<v Speaker 2>as we're getting out of the episode. What a really

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<v Speaker 2>really cool way to tie put a bow on the

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<v Speaker 2>episode him singing and just having that little intimate moment,

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<v Speaker 2>very very cool. It's like, if you were already sold

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<v Speaker 2>on Chris Keller, you see that at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the episode, like, oh man, I love this character. I

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<v Speaker 2>love watching him.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I thought was so smart too, is the

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<v Speaker 3>more human he's getting and even you see how enamored

0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.760
<v Speaker 3>with him Chuck is, and he wants to do his

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<v Speaker 3>hair like Chris. And then he's calling himself Chuck Skolnik

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<v Speaker 3>and the third person like Chris Keller does, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>gold that. I just I love him, even though I

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<v Speaker 3>want to hit him. And then he shows up at

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Nathan and Haley's and just undercuts all the good he's

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<v Speaker 3>been doing. And James played it so perfectly because he

0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.200
<v Speaker 3>was so deadpanned a joy and just said my wife

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't tell me things anymore. And I was like, this,

0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:59.280
<v Speaker 3>it's just so well done.

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<v Speaker 2>What does James say at the door? How that line

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 2>written down? He's like, why do I say these things?

0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.639
<v Speaker 2>He says something right before he opens the door and

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 2>it's Chris Keller there. He says to himself that really

0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.080
<v Speaker 2>it was a great delivery.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, speaking of funny things, let's just rewind real quick

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<v Speaker 5>to the start of the episode. So, first of all,

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.119
<v Speaker 5>the panic, the opening shot of Brooke and Julian waking.

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<v Speaker 5>Brooke really wakes up in the path. He's like because

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<v Speaker 5>she doesn't hear the kids, and as a parent, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, that is so real and so freaking funny.

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<v Speaker 5>But cut to we find out it's Victoria has the

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<v Speaker 5>twins in the kitchen. My new favorite thing is watching

0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 5>Austin House Food because his delivery when he said he says,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my god, I love coffee cake while he's just

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<v Speaker 5>in hailing it, and of course Brooke is not okay

0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 5>because why is Victoria in their house with the babies

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<v Speaker 5>and he just can't be bothered to address it as

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<v Speaker 5>day next time is quiet babies, coffee cake?

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing?

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<v Speaker 5>It was. He was just so funny, man. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 5>killed me.

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I loved like getting to do physical comedy in this

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:28.000
<v Speaker 3>way was always my favorite part of the show. And

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.040
<v Speaker 3>just the fact that we were able to have that

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.520
<v Speaker 3>the panic, what's going on? There's there's the humor in

0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 3>the sit up, in the look around, run into the room,

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, somebody fuck them. They're gone back into each other.

0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 3>He's on the ground. He tells me to hit him,

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.639
<v Speaker 3>and I slibb him across the face, all because we

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<v Speaker 3>can't understand the picture of Victoria Davis in like a

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifties housewife, apron and two perfectly behaved babies in

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:59.159
<v Speaker 3>the high Trick. It it just kept getting better and

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 3>it's like, that's the joke you want to build. It's

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.920
<v Speaker 3>the opposite of the hat on the hat that they

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 3>threw it at Lee and Lisa unfortunately. And I was like, man,

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.120
<v Speaker 3>this is this is exactly what I want to be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>All yeah, you guys killed that. It was I was

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<v Speaker 2>just saying, it was so far watching that you had

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<v Speaker 2>to pop up and a run around the house him

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<v Speaker 2>sliding it into the other rooms, that somebody stole them,

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 2>and that you guys bump into each other. It was like,

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<v Speaker 2>very well executed. I really really enjoyed that part.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh so well. When at first I thought it was

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<v Speaker 5>a bit right. I thought he was sensing that Brooke

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<v Speaker 5>and Victoria were about to get into it, and he

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.360
<v Speaker 5>was trying to like distract and deflect.

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<v Speaker 2>But then what was.

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<v Speaker 5>Funny about it is you realized that's actually not the case.

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<v Speaker 5>He is just so happy to have fresh coffee cake

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<v Speaker 5>and quiet babies. Yeah, it was so smart and so funny.

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Man, it's so great. It's so great, and that the

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:00.439
<v Speaker 3>funny thing is like it was clearly funny then, but

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking about you watching the episode, Rob, because

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, now we both live

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 3>in a house with two toddlers. Like, I know Rob's

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 3>having the same experience I'm having right now, because it's

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 3>like you wake up to quiet and you go.

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to move.

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to move, I don't want to breathe,

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to risk And it's just the stuff

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 3>you don't know until you know it. And I I

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 3>was giggling thinking about you watching that scene.

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 5>Oh, as soon as you have kids sleeping, like everything,

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.439
<v Speaker 5>as soon as the house is quiet, it becomes like

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<v Speaker 5>the hurt locker.

0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you're like, don't you make a single sound, gently,

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 3>don't shake the floorboards of the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh. With our son, he was not a

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 5>good sleeper, and so like as soon as he was

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 5>actually down, and it was that like that that thing

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 5>where it's just like if one of us made a sound,

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 5>you're like like whisper fighting because you were just so

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 5>afraid of protecting this small window of peace.

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's incredible. I also love that as they're so

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 3>confused by the fact that they've gotten sleep and the

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 3>fact that the babies are quiet, and what the fuck

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 3>is going on? Why is Victoria baking? I loved Daphne's

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 3>delivery of you don't see your father doing any of this,

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, oh, oh, I see what you're up to, lady, Okay,

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 3>it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank god dance back. You know, you don't realize how

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 5>much I was aware of he wasn't in season eight,

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 5>but like, I didn't realize how much I missed him

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 5>until he's back and he is just that like drama. Umami, yeah, like,

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 5>oh that's it.

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I also love the flip of Julian this is so good, Victoria,

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 3>and it cuts to Nathan going, this is not good, Hales,

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, it's all the parents. It's just parental drama,

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 3>and no matter how old we get, we need it.

0:24:57.480 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 3>We need the parents in the show.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's not really any inherent comedy with what's happening

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.200
<v Speaker 5>between Nathan and Dan, but they built in this really

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 5>great comedic device where Haley and Nathan are talking in

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 5>their bedroom and she she was like, listen, I realized

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 5>you weren't here. I didn't know what to do, and

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 5>she basically says, I told him, if you want him

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 5>to go, he has to go, and it smash cuts

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 5>too Nathan's standing over Dan in bed, going you.

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Have to go. It was just such a great device,

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that whole storyline, you know, like it's great.

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 5>Dan Scott is the ultimate joker card. He's he's the

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 5>wild card, like you just don't know what he's up to,

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 5>And several times in this episode, because he's so believable

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.920
<v Speaker 5>when he's when he's I don't know air quotes pretending

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 5>to be sincere. But then you have moments like why

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 5>is he evesdropping on Nathan and Haley's private conversation in

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 5>their bedroom not cool boundaries. Also at the end of

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 5>the episode, when Nathan leaves and he basically tells him like,

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 5>hey man, you can be here for right now, but

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 5>you need to have an exit strategy in place, very

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 5>very soon. And as soon as Nathan goes and Dan

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 5>has like that line to Jamie or he's like, don't worry,

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to be here for a while.

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 3>See yeah, you're like, what is it? And the device

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 3>of Jamie like having a kid old enough to have

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 3>their own relationship with someone, to have their own desires

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 3>and running commentary also in a weird way, adds to

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 3>both the tension and the comedy of the Scott House

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Right Now because as soon as you get that jump

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 3>cut to Nathan saying you have to go. There's sweet

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 3>little Jamie being like you didn't set a place for grandpa,

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 3>and he starts moving the dishes around on the table

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 3>and you're just like, oh shit, they're going to have

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 3>to eat their words now, and then boom, Dan's at breakfast.

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 3>It's it's all.

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 2>It's really well Dan Scott. I mean, he's he's the

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>character where I mean, you're gonna stick around for that guy.

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>They're like, I want to see what this extra is

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>going to do next because he is just in't here

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 2>causing chaos, and uh yeah, he's such a great character.

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.959
<v Speaker 5>Can I pitch my fan theory that I came up

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 5>with while I was watching this, Yes, it's going to

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 5>be out there, right, But I don't remember all the specifics,

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 5>but I do know obviously that Nathan is he's on

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 5>the cusp of being kidnapped. Right, You're right, is there

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 5>a world in which Dan Scott, who I know ultimately

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 5>is the savior is arranged so the perpetrator? I'm just

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 5>saying because here's why, right, Remember in the episode nine

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 5>oh one, there was like there was a couple creepy

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 5>instances of like Karen's cafe front door was left open,

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 5>there was someone jiggling the handle at at the James

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 5>House and we were like, was it the gangster thing? Okay,

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 5>it couldn't have been gangsters. It had to have been

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 5>Dan Scott because Nathan wasn't even supposed to be in

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 5>Europe at this at that point in the storytelling, because

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 5>Clay was the one who was supposed to go, it

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 5>was an eleventh hour decision for Nathan to step in

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 5>for him. So I just thought, I just found myself

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 5>when I watched that shot of Dan standing there with

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 5>Jamie watching the car drive away. And because Dan Scott

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 5>is Dan Scott, it is not outside the realm of

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 5>possibility for him to orchestrate. I mean, listen, the season

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 5>started with him setting his own place of work on fire,

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 5>his own home and business. So I just thought, wouldn't

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 5>And so I'm just putting that out there because I

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 5>don't remember the specifics and that might be disproved very soon,

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 5>but I just thought, like, wouldn't that be so Dan

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 5>Scott to have your own son kidnapped so then you

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 5>could be the hero and the good guy again.

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>And by the way. You know why I like where

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 3>you're going with this because near the end of the episode,

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:00.959
<v Speaker 3>when Haley and Nathan are talking, she oh, no, no,

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 3>it's when she's talking to Date and she essentially is saying,

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I am angry at you for what you did to

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Keith every day, and then she repeats that to Nate, saying,

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, he took Keith from us, but he also

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 3>saved our son's life. So it's like her feelings about

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 3>him are on a seesaw. There's the most horrible thing

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 3>and the most amazing thing waited on opposite ends, right,

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 3>So how do you make the most horrible thing maybe

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.719
<v Speaker 3>go away? You have to do another one of the

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 3>most amazing things, which is save the other person.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and the conversation you're referencing was that the one

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 5>that we pulled out from and saw that he was

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 5>in the hallway listening, Yes, yes, yes, saying.

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>We're aw by me in it. Oh, detective work over here.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm impressed you are, Stephen.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>All the fans are clamoring for Rob to start watching

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 3>the show from season one because of his reactions to

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 3>the things he learns, like the fact that Brooke and

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Chase dated in high school, and now I'm like, should

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 3>you be should you be going back and starting or

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 3>are you gonna, like, are you going to write the

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 3>fan fiction? Are you like, I don't know, You're not

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of opportunities.

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 5>I'll wear a couple of hats, guys, Let's do it. Okay, Yeah,

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 5>I'll be I'll recap and fan fixed. Let's do it.

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I love it. Uh, Poor Quinn, oh man, you know

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 3>so heavy. You know what really was a shot to

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 3>the heart for me was that beautiful scene with you

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 3>and Chantelle where you're fighting her on therapy and she

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 3>doesn't understand why and she has to stop you by saying,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 3>this is happening to me too.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh.

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 3>It just like it was like an emotional gut punch

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.040
<v Speaker 3>in a good way, because it's the perfect way to

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>explain what it is like to love someone who is

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>in some version of danger.

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 3>And when that like, you know, when you're looking at

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 3>your person and they're suffering, you're suffering too. And I

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 3>thought it was really beautiful.

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 5>She is exhibiting an olympic level of patience and grace

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 5>with the situation because Clay is being real up to

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 5>some sort of I think just selfish and self involved

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 5>and thinking it's not having repercussions when she's having to

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 5>just pick him up from the Pollee station in random

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 5>parks in the middle of the night. I mean, that's yeah,

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 5>that's crazy, so scary behavior because think about it, that

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 5>means your partner could be getting hit by a car

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 5>like they don't, Well, that's it. It's it's nuts. So

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 5>she has handled it so so so well, and especially

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.719
<v Speaker 5>that it's like it's just therapy, you know, it's not

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 5>like it's a it's a serious medication that's going to

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 5>change who you are is a person.

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 5>That would be a little it would make a little

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:06.479
<v Speaker 5>more sense to be stubborn about it, but it's I

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 5>felt for her that she was having to fight so

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 5>hard for something that seemed incredibly reasonable.

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I did too. And then what I loved was we

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 3>had the same aha moment in the Vulnerable reveal with

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Clay that we had with Chris Keller in their own ways,

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 3>when you finally say, closer to the end of the episode,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 3>it if medication fixes me, then then I'm sick. If

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 3>it's in my head, then I'm crazy. And I went, oh, okay,

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I understand why. I understand that he is experiencing such

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 3>deep fear about what this could mean, that he's terrified

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 3>to know the answer. And Ah, he's not dismissing her feelings.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 3>He's not being dismissive of his own safety. He's really

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 3>really scared to know what's wrong. And it was a

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 3>really nice moment to see for you.

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because without that, he just seems like he's being

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 5>selfish and unreasonable, and yeah, that makes and then you

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 5>hear that, and also given his history, you're like, fair enough,

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 5>you've gone through some serious traumas that you haven't really

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 5>done the work around.

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>It was a great scene with you, Rob Chantelle, James

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 3>and Jackson when you're like, you told Nathan and she's like,

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 3>of course I did. And you're all in the room

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 3>going back and forth. And again, Jamie serves for the

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 3>comedic device in the heavy situation, just like he's doing

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 3>in the house with Nathan and Haley and Dan with

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 3>you guys, him getting so amped that Clay might be

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 3>a werewolf. He's just it's like chef's kiss. It's the

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 3>perfect levity to let some of the pressure out of

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 3>the valve.

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 5>And again, great writing because they also found a moment

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 5>to show the friendship and the care and the love

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 5>between Nathan and Clay. Yeah, that Nathan was about to

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 5>make a really big sacrifice that wasn't going to be

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 5>easy on his family, and he didn't think about it twice.

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 5>So it was just like everything worked on multiple levels,

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, and Haley being bummed but getting it, you

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 5>know because like she also cares for Clay.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 4>It was it was all of it was great, man,

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 4>it was all really good.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's talk about Brooks dad, how charming is.

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 3>So charming and the sexual tension between Ted and Daphney,

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 3>how much they hate each other but like it's a

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 3>and the way they know because nobody throws a barb

0:34:54.320 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 3>like Victoria Davis except for Ted Davis. And seeing them

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 3>go in a Ted a Ted, I'm obsessed with it.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 5>Also, no one dramatically pounds a Martini better than Daphne's Zuniga.

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 3>No, incredible.

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 5>That was such a great moment. But yes, the way

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 5>he plays with her, Oh, the way he just sort

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 5>of sits back with that smirk and just lobs just

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 5>grenades at her is so good. And this scene with

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 5>uh Brooke and what's his name Ted.

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 2>It's Ted. Yeah.

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.919
<v Speaker 5>This scene with Brooke and Ted when he's very late

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 5>for lunch, imber I noted that it's it is. He

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 5>presents just the right amount of ick to be noticeable

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 5>and slightly concerning, but not enough to be red flaggy.

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And there's a really interesting thing because Brooke and

0:35:56.160 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Victoria have made it through their stuff. It makes sense

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 3>that Brooke excuses the red flags about Ted because they're

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 3>always coming out of Victoria's mouth, and she's like, well,

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 3>of course you hate him, but look at us. You changed,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 3>he could change, so in a weird way, Victoria, it's

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 3>like she could be his foil, but she can't be

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 3>because she unfoiled herself. And it's it's really good. It's

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 3>a good tug of war that they've given. And I

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 3>love that Victoria tries to go to Julian for help

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 3>and he's just like, uh uh, I just want Brook happy,

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 3>let me alone.

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 5>As he's finishing the last phrase of the coffee cake,

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 5>which was such a smart choice to have him with

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 5>that like nearly empty plate of food. The runner is

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 5>so and it gives us great opportunity for us to

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 5>see that Victoria really cares about Brook. It's not just

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 5>about being petty with her ex husband. It's also her

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 5>showing up to say like, don't don't burn her, you know,

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 5>which made what I thought was going to be her

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 5>getting stood up at lunch so much more painful.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's good. I also just hats off to

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Daphne because I have so much fun working with her

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 3>and they give us that, they give us our own

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 3>version of a seesaw. And when she when Brooke asks

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 3>what's wrong, and Daphne just rattles off that list. I'm

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 3>not getting any younger, I'm not having any sex my

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 3>conniving ex husband. And it's just like it's so it's

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 3>so so great, and I love getting to see the

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 3>dynamic they give to us where I get to be

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 3>sassy with her and say, first of all, ill second,

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>and then we're into the thing. It's just like, ah,

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 3>it's an energy that I miss and very much like

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 3>when you see Dan Scott and you go god, I

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 3>missed that guy, Like whenever I see Brooke and Victoria

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of go at it. I want more.

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 5>My favorite line of the episode, first of all, you

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:05.960
<v Speaker 5>so good.

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 2>You guys worked so well together. I remember watching it.

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.879
<v Speaker 2>I remember taking acts of being on set and see

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 2>whenever you guys work together, it always kind of stopped

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 2>me to hang out and watch a little bit more

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 2>of what you guys were doing because it was such

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 2>a good dynamic between the two of you. So just

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 2>to what you're saying right there had the like acknowledgement

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 2>of something and then get to what Brook needs to

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 2>get to right like, all right, I'm gonna deal with

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>that later, like clearly if you could just you can

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>see the history and the baggage between the two of them,

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.959
<v Speaker 2>and uh, it's yeah, it's it's deep, and it's it's

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 2>when you guys are on screen together. Really, it really pops.

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Pal.

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 3>I also love there's things that I think I've realized

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 3>through you know, our adulthood and like another ad for

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 3>better help therapy, like so many people in our sort

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 3>of age range have had to deal with the ramifications

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 3>of being you know, parentified children. And I was watching

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 3>that argument and I was like, oh my god, look

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Brook literally has to parent her mom. Like they get

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 3>into it and then she's like, do you know how

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 3>ridiculous it is that I can only get you to

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 3>to pay attention to me if I'm making clothes. I

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 3>just want parents that want to spend time with me.

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 3>And it's so it's so spot on because they're her parents,

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 3>but she has to parent them all the time. Makes

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 3>me get go.

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Let me ask a question. Is it romantic or bold

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 5>or inappropriate to move someone in without having even asked

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 5>them first?

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Mate, I have the exact same question. I was waiting

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 2>for you guys to bring it up, but I was

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 2>just like, I'm just gonna sit back. Of course, someone's

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 2>gotta mention because this is not this is not normal.

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.760
<v Speaker 3>This is not not normal behavior.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, it's it's I was even I was

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>asking my fiance. I was like, this is this would

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 2>you find the sway? Which you find it creepy? He's like, well,

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>how long they had been dating? And she asked all

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 2>these questions on Alexi, You're having to ask a lot

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 2>of questions. It's not an easy Yes, it's weird, it's.

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 5>All okay, Yeah, I thought so as well.

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 3>So here's the thing. And we've talked about this a lot.

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 3>We talked about this last week. You know, in the

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 3>first episode of the season, we were like, God, poor

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Steven and Jana. I just had to be in a

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 3>bed and half naked. And but you guys are so

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>good together. You have such great natural chemistry as co

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 3>stars that you make things that could feel icky really

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 3>enjoyable to watch. And so the notes I wrote, I

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 3>was like, wait a second, Cha's talking to Chuck about this.

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.919
<v Speaker 3>It sort of seems adorable. And then they get there

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 3>and they're packing up her stuff. She's being given a choice,

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>she's not her opinion is not asked. It's actually really

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 3>an overreach and kind of creepy. And yet you and

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Jana make it so sweet and her kind of overwhelm

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 3>and you were like, here's your glasses in your picture

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 3>and I knew you'd need these things. And here's where

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I did all your toilet trees. And it's you guys

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 3>are so sweet that you make a creepy situation less creepy.

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 3>But I still think if someone did it to me,

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 3>I might be like, oh, we're like two steps away

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>from put the lotion in the basket. Really, what's happening here?

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.760
<v Speaker 2>What I felt watching it was and I don't remember

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 2>this as much when we were shooting it. I remember like, okay,

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 2>this is what topic. When need to commit to this,

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Like you know he Chase is really just trying to

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>put his best foot forward and trying to display his

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 2>love for her, which, by the way, before he tells

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 2>her he is in love with her, he tells Chuck

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that the first person he tells about it, which is

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 2>just kind of a little odd for me as well.

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's weird, but it's sweet.

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, and I think at the undercurt of

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 2>it all is like he is trying to be sweet, right,

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 2>and it comes from a sweety place, but yeah, the

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 2>delivery is not quite smooth, and it just not Yeah,

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it would be accepted by by most folks.

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like somebody like, you know what, that's cool.

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I love that he took that. That's great. But for me,

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 2>the problem I have with it is that it was

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 2>like he was not going to give her a chance

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>to say no, even after the fact, because when we

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>get into him like I've got the surprise for you,

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 2>she comes over and then he is showing her you know,

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:29.240
<v Speaker 2>your your your pictures on the wall, right, your glasses

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 2>are on the night stand, the makeup is in the bathroom.

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 2>You don't have a choice. You cannot say Ei, there's

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 2>no way you can say I'm not ready for this

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 2>or I'm a little creeped out, like so that was like,

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 2>oh man, like she she has to be okay with it.

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was. It was an odd, odd, odd

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 2>display of love. But you know what, maybe fan fiction

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 2>rob can but can we say he was just so

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 2>drunk on love trying to you know, he needed to

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 2>get it out and he had set it yet and

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 2>he decided to take action by moving stuff.

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 5>That's that's how I can make sense of it. Right.

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 5>I still think it's a huge misstep because you're not

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 5>inviting someone to cohabitate.

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 2>You are.

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 5>You are making a decision, a unilateral decision, and then

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 5>you are choosing where they get to take up space.

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 5>It's no, it's really bad, right, that's it.

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't feel like collaboration. It feels like claiming yes.

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 5>And but here here's why, because you. Chase also has

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 5>a line that really bummed me out in a big way,

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 5>which is after you say I love you and you

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 5>guys have sex, you're laying there an apropos of nothing.

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:45.280
<v Speaker 5>You just go or Chase goes it's okay, you didn't

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 5>say it back, and she's like, huh, it's okay, you

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 5>didn't say I love you back, And I'm like, if

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 5>this isn't the most no therapy backwards way to try

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 5>to get into the conversation you want to have. But

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 5>the reason why you're that's why I think it works.

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 5>If we're gonna why I would argue that it's fine.

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 5>The way it is is everything you did that Chase

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 5>did is born of good intention. I don't think Chase

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 5>did it to be controlling. I think Chase did it

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 5>because he loves her and he wants to show it.

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 5>And I think then he also this the circling back

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 5>on that didn't say I love you. He's insecure, you know,

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.560
<v Speaker 5>and he's trying to sort of feel that out. And

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 5>because you play the role with such sincerity, that's why

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 5>I think it works, Because exactly, I buy a twenty

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 5>five year old dude whatever you're supposed to be at

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 5>this point, who is putting on his adult pants for

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 5>the first time. It's awkward and it's clumsy, and so yeah,

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 5>I understand all of it.

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So this feels like the relationship to Chase is

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.399
<v Speaker 2>one that he does not and again it could sound

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 2>creepy at first, but he does not want to let go.

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 2>He does not want to let this one go. He

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to lose it after you know, considering what's

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 2>happened in his past relationships and which is kind of

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 2>ultimately you know where we know the sends up. Which

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.240
<v Speaker 2>is so tragic about it all is because him coming

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>off of having this relationship with me and what she

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 2>meant to him, and really not wanting to screw up

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 2>the next one and really wanting to make the next

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 2>one work. You know, I feel like when you see

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 2>it with the little like love triangle that they're in,

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 2>like Chase was out of his league and it was

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 2>like he did not want to be in this situation.

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not you know, that's not something that like he

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 2>found himself in often. And so now that he's got

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a girl that he feels struggling about, he feels like

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 2>it's reciprocated. He's like, Okay, like let's like let's make

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:37.399
<v Speaker 2>the steps for her to one hundred percent know that

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm all in, and hopefully that'll want her to maybe

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 2>stick around, right or any opportunity that she might have

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 2>to question the relationship, question his love for her, or

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 2>go somewhere else, she would be she would not be

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.879
<v Speaker 2>able to take it, because man, what a great thing

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 2>that we have. And that's the way I felt about it,

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.800
<v Speaker 2>like for seeing him as like I can't let anything

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 2>come between this, so like let's let's just get you know,

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 2>let's get this train rolling. And you know, there's something

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 2>to be said about, you know, moving too quick or

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 2>being too eager. And I think in that situation, you know,

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 2>while it's coming from a good place, you're you're you're

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 2>seeing him too eager, and ultimately it's gonna buy it.

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.720
<v Speaker 3>But well, I think that's a really astute observation because

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>especially when you're younger, you know, if you think about

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 3>like a pendulum swing, if you think you've made a mistake,

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.319
<v Speaker 3>the way to do it differently is actually to come

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 3>to center. But so often people go like, oh, I

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 3>did this dumb thing. Let me go do this thing

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 3>over here, And it takes, you know, time to learn

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 3>not to do that, to to not failing on both

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 3>hard in the other direction, to try to course correct.

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 3>May or may not be saying that from experience, you

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 3>who knows.

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Are we all? Are we all?

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Are we all? I think that's a real thing, and

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.879
<v Speaker 3>and I think that's what you're observing, and that's what

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 3>makes it feel really grounded. And to Rob's point, you're

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 3>really genuinely excited about it. So it doesn't it doesn't

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:12.160
<v Speaker 3>feel creepy coming from Chase. But I also think as

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 3>adults were like, oh, a bad call man. No, no,

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 3>we know better, and that's not the vibe.

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.760
<v Speaker 5>And as someone who likes Chase and roots for Chase,

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 5>one thing I will say is that he has good

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 5>instincts because we learned last season from his little confessional

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 5>with Julian when when he was stuck in the middle

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:37.280
<v Speaker 5>level love triangle, he made the surprising decision of saying

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 5>no to both of them. Yeah and it so it

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 5>had he stuck with what his gut told him, Like

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 5>he was right, you know what I mean, Like his gut,

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 5>his gut was right. So I feel like and then

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 5>like we see the stuff with Chuck, it we are

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 5>just watching a young man grow up. But at his core,

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 5>like all of the right things are there, you know,

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.959
<v Speaker 5>his like his morality, he's there. His instincts are good

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 5>and seem to be on, you know, and like, so

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 5>we're just watching him go through the trial and error

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 5>of figuring it out. But he's a good guy. You know,

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 5>he's going to get there. We're just watching, you know,

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 5>some rough drafts.

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I felt it's like I remember thinking

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 2>about this with with with Chase.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 3>With to what you're.

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Saying, I think you hit it on the head, Matt.

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 2>It it feels like he always he wanted to do

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the right thing, did have a good set of morals

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and values around him, but would find himself experiencing life

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, I don't care who you are and

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 2>how perfect you you aspire to be in life, like

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 2>you're going to You're going to step in s h

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I T at some point, you know, and and you're

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 2>going to have your issues and your problems with with

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 2>certain people, or you're gonna some people are gonn align

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>with you and how you handle that. And so I

0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 2>think that that's why I see it's like that, you know,

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Chase his core, he really does mean well, but it's

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:57.280
<v Speaker 2>just the execution is not always smooth.

0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that's really which is great, but it breaks

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 3>my heart because at the end when she goes and

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 3>says to Chris, I want to go on the tour,

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, good, too much, too much, too much

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 3>to blow and parachute oh god, yep, yep.

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 5>There's especially like when you see someone has completely dropped

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 5>their armor and they're like, yeah, well nothing here but vulnerability,

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 5>and then that they're about to get just completely caught

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 5>off guard.

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sad for you. I'm nervous for next week.

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 2>It was a yeah, I remember it was. It was

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:37.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of a shocking I mean, look where it's it's

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 2>TV the stuff. It's like, right when you get the

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 2>bow on the present and it's ready to go that

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, someone's gonna steal it, right or it

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 2>gets ripped apart like it. That's with the journey and

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:52.759
<v Speaker 2>for Chasing and Alex. You know, all right this you think,

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 2>And I I remember going like, all right, that's cool.

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Let's see how they interact as a couple that is

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 2>feeling secured together. How are they going to take out

0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 2>on the world together? But what are they going to

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 2>have to navigate together as a as a couple. And

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:07.359
<v Speaker 2>we don't really see that, We don't really get that

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.320
<v Speaker 2>because it's you know, the rugs pulled out from underneath

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 2>it and and that's it. And uh, I remember being

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 2>disappointed that all of a sudden all right, we're going

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 2>to you know, see Alex as much anymore.

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 3>So Yeah, I know it's hard.

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 2>But and I want to, you know, circle back to

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the questions we have before night. The question I get

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.439
<v Speaker 2>often when where iver at a convention or something, which

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 2>is where Chase. Where I feel Chase's is best suited

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 2>between the Mia and Alex at all. And I really

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 2>did screw up by like kind of like give it

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 2>a half baked answer about Oh, I think Mia would

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 2>be a good one because watching this and watching some

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 2>of the end of season and seeing what Alex and

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Chase had together, and seeing how Janna plays Alex, like

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 2>really really some some great stuff. But it's bringing back

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:58.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of good memories of working with Channa. She's

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 2>a fantastic actress, and her Alex is so good that

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:06.520
<v Speaker 2>the character she's she's so good on screen. So there

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 2>there is a strong, strong case for what could have

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:14.840
<v Speaker 2>been one hundred percent with Chase said Alex. Yeah, I agree,

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I listen.

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 5>I having you know, I have no idea how the

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 5>rest of the season wraps up. I'm assuming because I

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 5>thought you and Mia were like always in game that

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:25.719
<v Speaker 5>it's going to be you and Mea or chasing Mea.

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:27.839
<v Speaker 5>And if that's the case, boy, I just sure hope

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 5>there's a good reason for it, and it's not just

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 5>well you're the last girl left in town, you know?

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 5>But I agree, I love I love Chasing Alex. I

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 5>have been so pleasantly surprised that it has gone on

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 5>for as long as it did, because, like I said,

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.360
<v Speaker 5>I I thought you guys had like a one episode

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 5>thing and that was it.

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 2>So you are in for a curveball. I do know

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 2>what comes next, and I wish I could see I

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 2>wish I could see you watch it.

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 5>I'll text you. I'll text you after it. I'm sure

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 5>i'll know the episode.

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a doozy, my friend, it

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:10.320
<v Speaker 2>is a doozy.

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 3>We have a listener question, which is interesting because we

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 3>are talking about how things wrap up, and Chris wants

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 3>to know going into the final season, was there a

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 3>sense of pressure or responsibility to give longtime fans the

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:28.279
<v Speaker 3>ending they deserved.

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 5>I feel like that pressure was more on the writers,

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 5>don't you.

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:33.879
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was going to say. I think it's

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 3>really tricky when you are an actor, because yes, of

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 3>course you want things to be beautiful and everyone knows

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 3>how hard it is to you know, wrap up a

0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 3>whole series in a perfect bow. But I think it

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 3>would be so much harder, you know, to be like

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 3>a Quinta or someone who writes and stars in their

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:00.840
<v Speaker 3>own show. I think I would have like a nervous

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 3>breakdown for a series finale if I had to write it.

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you, guys, I think it's it's

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 2>definitely all it's the writers are the real heroes in

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 2>this right They are the ones that are putting that

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 2>story down and then we show up to play it.

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 2>But I would feel, you know, I would not feel

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 2>appropriate answering that question. I feel like, soph you would

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.080
<v Speaker 2>be the one just because you've been there from the beginning,

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:27.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm curious because you you I actually

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 2>like I speak for you, but I would I would

0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 2>feel like maybe if I was in your shoes, I

0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 2>was it from the beginning and I knew the impact

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 2>that this show had that were you going into the

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>last season just hoping and praying that they were going

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 2>to do right by your character? And did you did

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:43.719
<v Speaker 2>you at all feel the pressure of like, oh no,

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 2>what's like? How are they gonna you know, put a

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:48.719
<v Speaker 2>bow on on the on the book of it all.

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:50.600
<v Speaker 2>What's it going to be? Were you very curious to

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:52.800
<v Speaker 2>ask them even going in or at the end of

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:53.439
<v Speaker 2>season eight.

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I thought the end of season eight was

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:00.760
<v Speaker 3>really beautiful. We talked a few weeks ago about how

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 3>it really did feel like a series finale because we

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 3>all thought it was gonna be. You know, I remember

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:10.839
<v Speaker 3>even like an amazing conversation I had. I went out

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 3>to dinner with two of the writers in like the

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 3>last few weeks of season eight, And I won't say

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:17.319
<v Speaker 3>who they are because I don't want to blow them

0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 3>up on the internet, but like there were things where

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.400
<v Speaker 3>they were like, oh my god, now we can finally

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:24.840
<v Speaker 3>tell you this story, or we da da da da,

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 3>And then we all came back and we were like,

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:29.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we'll be friends forever, but it is also

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:32.359
<v Speaker 3>really awkward that now we know these things and we're here,

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:34.760
<v Speaker 3>we have to like work with that person or whatever

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 3>I think for me, you know, to Rob's earlier question,

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 3>like about Lee's storyline, we obviously like our boss was

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 3>an incredibly talented writer who ran an incredibly talented writer's

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 3>room and also a vindictive, unkind person in some really

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 3>terrible ways at terrible times. And what I think was

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.279
<v Speaker 3>hard about knowing we were going to wrap up and

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 3>seeing some of the things happening for people was like

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 3>people were getting really amazing stuff that it did feel

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:15.280
<v Speaker 3>like the characters deserved, and then people were getting dunked

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 3>on in really unkind ways, and I just remember thinking, like,

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I really hope those things can stop by the time

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:29.319
<v Speaker 3>we get to our thirteenth episode, because this show means

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 3>so much to so many people, to all of us,

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 3>to the crew, but to the people who watch it,

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and I hope it's great. And I remember near the end,

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:44.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, spoiler alert if you haven't watched it, speed up.

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:49.279
<v Speaker 3>But I remember near the end, when Julian builds the

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:52.720
<v Speaker 3>high school on the sound stage, we had this scene

0:55:52.760 --> 0:56:00.280
<v Speaker 3>in the hallway, and the scene just didn't feel great

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 3>like it was. It was a very normal conversation between

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Brooke and Julian, and I remember saying to you know,

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the wonderful Greg Prange, like can I just have a second,

0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Can I just talk for a second. And I just

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 3>talked about our show and us in this place, and

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 3>they put everything that I had lived in the episode

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 3>and like that for me felt to answer Chris's question,

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 3>like that's where I felt it. I was like in

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:33.319
<v Speaker 3>this moment, like I can't be Brooke Davis standing in

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 3>front of Peyton's locker with nine years of history and

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.600
<v Speaker 3>like not say more, and they let me try one

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 3>and then it made the episode and like that that

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 3>was the moment where I was like, Okay, I got

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:49.279
<v Speaker 3>I got to sprinkle a little bit more for me

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 3>and for our for our.

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:54.319
<v Speaker 6>Fans too, and it's also special, super cool and I

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:57.520
<v Speaker 6>and you used the word hope multiple times in that explanation,

0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 6>and that's what I was going to say is I

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:02.600
<v Speaker 6>didn't feel a sense of pressure or responsibility, I mean

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:05.600
<v Speaker 6>beyond the normal responsibility of you know, trying to play

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 6>the characters as well as I could.

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.359
<v Speaker 5>I would say I had a sense of hope of

0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 5>just really crossing my fingers that we were going to

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 5>land the plane and we were going to stick the landing.

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 5>And I think by when we were shooting episode thirteen,

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 5>especially like that the real kind of the wrap up

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 5>of it feeling like Okay, this feels like we're in

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 5>the right sandbox with giving that sort of like the respectful,

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 5>happy ending to this world that we've created, and hopefully

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:33.439
<v Speaker 5>the fans feel the same way.

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially after the potential of a few seasons ending

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 2>and being like this could be very well could be

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the last episode where everyone was, you know, convinced that

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was, and that it would come back, it

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 2>would come back again, come back again.

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I also just remember, you know, it was a mix

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 3>of emotions for all of us, right, like everyone was

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:01.720
<v Speaker 3>ready to be done, but also we didn't know what

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 3>was coming next, and it's sad to think about leaving

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 3>your friends and whatever hit me in our last episode.

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean I cried for two straight weeks every time

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:12.320
<v Speaker 3>I looked at any of you, every time I looked

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 3>at like Maddie Doll on the camera, I just I

0:58:15.920 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 3>just kept sobbing. And Tim was like, you have to

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 3>stop crying. Your makeup hop and I'm like, god, I'm sorry,

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know. It was so it was like

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:26.479
<v Speaker 3>a really special bit or sweet thing.

0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 2>It was important. It was a very important part of

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:32.919
<v Speaker 2>all our lives during that time. I mean, at least

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 2>for me, it's something I look back and think about,

0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, A good chunk of my twenties growing up

0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 2>with you guys out there, and you field so fortunate

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to not only the experience work wise, the experience just

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:51.400
<v Speaker 2>with the people you guys, and the times that we

0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 2>had offset together were always so fun, and those memories

0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I cherished the dearly, dearly to have, especially you know,

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 2>to get growing up in southern California, to find myself

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 2>in a little town on the East coast, not just

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.320
<v Speaker 2>for four years of college or something like that, but

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, for for a good chunk of you know,

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 2>of a decade and making something that we were all

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 2>so happy to actually have the opportunity the dream job,

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 2>a job that we always hope that we'd get. So

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:21.800
<v Speaker 2>cherish those moments, even though you know, I think, yeah,

0:59:21.800 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 2>by the time we get to season nine, a lot

0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 2>of people were like, all right, we've been doing the

0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:26.960
<v Speaker 2>show for a very long time. Maybe it's time to

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 2>move on to something else. But you know, for me,

0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it was like I popped in season six and then

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting to see nine, I was around a

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:39.840
<v Speaker 2>lot more. But I also felt even at that point, like,

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:42.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what, it's it feels like it's time. It's

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 2>it's been a great run, and it does feel like

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 2>it's time to put this down.

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 5>To set it down, not put it down like an

0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:50.600
<v Speaker 5>injured horse.

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Guys, just to be yes, yes, humanely, yes, frame it

0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:56.640
<v Speaker 2>and put it on the show. There you go, yes, yes,

0:59:56.720 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 2>jet Lee, gently set it down.

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 5>Steven wanted to take one tree hill out behind the

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 5>barn and.

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even realize put it down. What I was saying, Oh, man,

1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:11.320
<v Speaker 2>send it to pasture. Well you want to spend a

1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 2>wheel with us, buddy, Okay, yes.

1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Most likely too, Let's do this most.

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh my, oh my gosh, I've never seen this before.

1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Watch it's going to be most likely to cry through

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:21.240
<v Speaker 3>the workday.

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like me, most Stephen, you read it, most likely

1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to binge watch an entire season of a show in

1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:33.240
<v Speaker 2>one day. Rob Buckley easily three kids. Yes, well, because

1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you you would have it just on in the background,

1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Like you wouldn't sit there and watch a show all day,

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 2>but you like to just have I remember this when

1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:43.240
<v Speaker 2>we were roomors, you would have like VP would always

1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:46.520
<v Speaker 2>be on the background, maybe New Girl, like a great comedy.

1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:49.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just like sometimes the music you have in your house,

1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 2>or at least it was when we were living together,

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:53.280
<v Speaker 2>which I loved. So it's like any you know, you

1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:55.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of pop interview from time to time, but I

1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 2>would I would put you on theirs ass. And maybe

1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:00.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not the true, you know, sitting down and watching

1:01:00.640 --> 1:01:03.360
<v Speaker 2>every minute, but yeah, you're like, if we had to

1:01:03.400 --> 1:01:05.640
<v Speaker 2>go through the log of like all right, how many

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<v Speaker 2>times has this season been watched by the three of us?

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<v Speaker 2>Just just from the loop that you would have on

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<v Speaker 2>a TV, It's like it's got to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Rob Yeah, yes, especially how many years did we live together?

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<v Speaker 5>I was trying to do this math because it started

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<v Speaker 5>on one I poached you from James. You were living

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<v Speaker 5>with James at the beach initially.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then in this final season, which I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 2>we really talk about because like, man, the fun we

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<v Speaker 2>had like being such nerds video gaming, like just like

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<v Speaker 2>like with candy, like going out, like just having candy

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<v Speaker 2>then like just like wandering the streets like we're like

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<v Speaker 2>it's so funny, Like we would just go out like

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<v Speaker 2>and I honestly would be like a sugar high half

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and I like we were just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>mosier out yeah, and be like you know what we

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<v Speaker 2>need at at two in the morning, Like where is

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<v Speaker 2>there a coffee? Joint that's open because we want to

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<v Speaker 2>like play video games for another like two hours, Like

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to a CVS. It's twenty four hour, get some,

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<v Speaker 2>get some like uh, you know, espresso shots.

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<v Speaker 3>You were getting like energy and choco, talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Like muddy buddies.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we remember our brief kick as being graffiti artists.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't know if you're to go like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's kind of illegal and illegal, but we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to admit to anything.

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<v Speaker 5>We just really liked street art for like four weeks yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And did we maybe target like construction sites that like

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<v Speaker 2>stuff was gonna be painted over? Yes, we we we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that. We talked we talked.

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<v Speaker 3>About the reponsible vandals.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>We also had a we we would have index cards.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we were coming up with brilliant ideas, just

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<v Speaker 2>the most profound ideas the word has the world has

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen. And usually sometime they're just like a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of like a cartoon character or there were an idea,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd write it on an index card and we'd stick

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<v Speaker 2>it to the wall. And we have this giant collage

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<v Speaker 2>of like two hundred index cards on our apartment wall.

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<v Speaker 2>With like some of the most stupid.

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<v Speaker 5>Ideas, that's right, or just if someone said something funny,

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<v Speaker 5>like a funny line, we would write it down. Oh

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<v Speaker 5>my gosh, I remember that well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Living Together season nine, what's a special season?

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<v Speaker 2>It was all right, buddy, I love you. Thank you so.

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<v Speaker 5>As well. To hang out with us, dude, it's always

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<v Speaker 5>the most fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. This is this is a treat, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, such fond memories, as I said, with you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just I look up to you guys so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm so grateful for the way you guys treated

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<v Speaker 2>me on the show whenever we were out there from

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of course, so to as a roommate and

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<v Speaker 2>a buddy out there rock like we we had so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun. So I adore you guys, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Feelings mutual. Dure you.

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<v Speaker 3>Next episode, guys, season nine, I can't believe it. I

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<v Speaker 3>see that I'm going to get a emotion. Season nine,

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<v Speaker 3>episode three, Love the.

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<v Speaker 5>Way You Lie. Finally a song title that I actually know.

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<v Speaker 2>It took us nine seasons, but we got there. Who's

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<v Speaker 2>the Who's the artist?

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<v Speaker 5>Rihanna Oh featuring Rate Born Right, So yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>good one, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. Steven, thanks for joining us, said,

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