1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama. Girl Drama, Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: high school queens. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic. 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Girl sharing for the right team. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 3: Drama Queens, my girl girl fashion, but. 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 4: Your tough girl. 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: You could sit with us. 9 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drahn the 10 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Queens Drama Queens. 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: Guys. I'm super amped, deeply in my feelings because we're 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: getting towards the end and it makes me want to 13 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: sob but also excited because I think we're in a 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: juicy place in the story. We are here for season nine, 15 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: episode two, in the Room where You Sleep. The original 16 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: air date was January eighteenth, twenty twelve, and we have 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 3: a family member guest friend of the pod here with 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: us today. 19 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: Take it away, Stephen, excited to be here, you guys. Wow, 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: that's season nine. You guys made it. We did it 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: finish line as you could. It's it's there in the distance, 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: you could see it. I mean, we only did about 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: I don't know seventeen eighteen episodes. Actual viewing episodes with 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: some Q and as for the Lagoda Beach Podcast, but 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: you guys, I don't know what what number episode you're on, 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: but honestly, bravo, bravo. 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, it's a lot because there were one hundred 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: and eighty seven episodes of One Tree Hill. Yeah, and 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: we've done a recap for every episode and Q and 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: a's with you guys, and like special live shows, the 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: live show, and. 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: How isn't seeing it? Everybody grew up before your eyes, 33 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: like from season one to oh my gosh, she's nine. 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's a it's almost ten years. 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy. Also, God, this show started in 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: a time where the fashion was just so bad, right, 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: it was so bad, like where were the tops of 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: our pants? We were just missing inches. It was wrong. 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: But I'm glad. 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: I'm glad we are where we are today. Do you 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: concur guest of honor, want to read this ynopsis for 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: the folks at home? 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, alright, you guys, Welcome to season nine, episode two. 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: Here is the synopsis. Brooke discusses a new business venture 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: with her father, as Julian stresses about his own investment, 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: Quinn convinces Clay to get help, and Millie struggles to 47 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: be honest with mouth. Meanwhile, Chris Keller the makes Alex 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: an offer she may not be able to refuse, and 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: Nathan volunteers to scout in Europe, leaving Dan with Haley 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,279 Speaker 2: and Jamie. 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: This episode it was great because there was stuff I 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: really liked. There was stuff I really disliked. Oh well, 53 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 5: it's easy because there's only like one real source spot 54 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 5: for me, and that is, like, what the hell are 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 5: we doing to poor Lee Norris? And what is this offensive, lame, 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 5: half baked attempt. 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: At a storyline. 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 5: I remember it happening and even and being like what's 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: going on? And Lee was just sort of like, I don't, 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know, and I'm now watching the 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 5: episode it is. It's just so we're getting a little 62 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 5: ahead of ourselves a bolt. Let's just jump in because 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: now I'm hot in the biscuit about it. I I 64 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 5: don't understand because first of all, the first like Jerry 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 5: and uh Millie are talking about the station like it's 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: some huge thing. And then he for first of all, 67 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 5: he walks into his first shot and he is he's 68 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 5: double fisting a hogie. I just thought like it was 69 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 5: so hat on a hat, like he's already in a 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: in like the air quotes like a fat suit. 71 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: I thought, It's like he's why is like, so he 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: gained some weight. He didn't look like morbidly obese or 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 5: like he was unhealthy. He just looked like a guy 75 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: who had gained some weight. 76 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: And like it was this just. 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: Weird, stupid, like and the bit apparently is that he's 78 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 5: gained weight. Like that's the punchline and we can't talk 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: about it with it. I just Lee's so good and 80 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 5: the character of mouth is so interesting and unique, and 81 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 5: the best we could do was put him in a 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: fat suit. 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a real weird choice. And I don't know 84 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: if this bumped you, but when Millie's talking to Jerry 85 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: and is like, I'm worried for his health and this, 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: that and the other, and Jerry basically alludes to how like, well, 87 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: you know, we've all struggled, like because she went to rehab, 88 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, wait a second, wait a second, 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: what is this? And truly I wonder did they just 90 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: run out of storylines? Did they run out of creativity? 91 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: Because these two having a super highly rated morning show 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: together is adorable and a whole universe that we could 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: be exploring, but the gag is that he's eating ice 94 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: cream on TV and saying he's not going to share 95 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: with his girlfriend and got fat, like. 96 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 5: And there is no connective tissue between what's happening now 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: and anything that we have established with Mouth over the 98 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 5: previous eight seasons. It's not like we've alluded to maybe 99 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 5: him having a thyroid issue or like he's battled weight 100 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: his whole life. It's just it's like apropos of nothing. 101 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 5: This thing just happens. And it's what's so jarring about 102 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 5: it is Season nine opened so hot, like the teaser 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 5: was everyone like, the steaks literally couldn't have been higher. 104 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 5: Mouth's not even there. Okay, fine, but then we go 105 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 5: into episode two and there is so much about this 106 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 5: episode that is really masterful storytelling. Yeah, the Dan Scott 107 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 5: of it all. 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: You know, these things that. 109 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 5: Are happening, Clay and Quinn, you know, Alex and Chase, 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: and then it's just like it's completely off kilter. And 111 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 5: then there's Mouth and what I remember I remember back then, 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 5: I honestly remember asking Lee is uh is our boss? 113 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: Is he pissed at you? 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 5: Is with you? Like? What's because it was it was 115 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: because clearly our writer's room was very good at storytelling. 116 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 5: They provided pretty awesome stories for everyone so far this season, 117 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 5: and it was just like, which one of these does 118 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 5: not belong? 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: And yep, I didn't get it, man. And it's so 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: funny because there's some some moments where I'm watching where 121 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: and it is nice throughout this season where there's some 122 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: lighter stuff with with the Chris Keller and Chase of 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: it all. It's a little bit of kind of like 124 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: a Buddy Cup thing that they that she have going on, 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: and if sometimes I'd be like, does this kind of 126 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: is it taken out of some of these like really 127 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: again well written stuff that good storylines, what's going on 128 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: with Clay Quinn and with Brooke as well, and and 129 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: and of course with with Dan and and Nathan in 130 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: and it's like there's some there's some intense stuff and 131 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it goes pops over to 132 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: one of these scenes and I'd be like, oh, it's 133 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: kind of a little silly, but maybe it's fun to 134 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: have a little bit laugh here. But then I also 135 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: felt that when you get into the scenes with with 136 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: Lee and his suit and it was just like I thought, 137 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: my mind was like, this feels like an idea that 138 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: came up when honestly somebody might have been like drunk, 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: and it's somehow stuck and and and sod and it 140 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: just kind of made it much further that it shouldn't have. 141 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: And especially yeah, when you think about Lee and his 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: character in the show, and I mean it's kind of 143 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: a it's ultimately, I think, a complimentally because it's like, 144 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: all right, he can handle this, you know, let's let's 145 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: have Lee do it because he's professional and he'll do it, 146 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: and he'll and he'll he'll rise to the occasion and 147 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: he'll commit. Yeah, it's and it's just unfortunate because it 148 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: does feel like it doesn't it doesn't belong well. 149 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: And part of why it bothers me and I don't 150 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: I remember having the same feeling men, like what fight 151 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: did you get in with the head hauncho to deal 152 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: with this? And I think what irked me watching it 153 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: is there is no drama currently in Brook and Julian's world, 154 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: and there we have great buddy comedy stuff as characters, 155 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 3: and so I'm watching how well they're writing for us 156 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: and how just sort of baseless the writing is for 157 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: Lee and Lisa, who are credible comedians, And I'm like, 158 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: so obviously you know how to tell a joke. Why 159 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: can't you just tell jokes for both couples? What are 160 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: we doing here? 161 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: And that was the up. They would have like three 162 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: lines and then the scene, the scene would be over 163 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: like this is yeah, I don't I don't get it. 164 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: It's so brief. It was very very odd, very very odd. 165 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: And you're saying like it's a credit to Lee, and 166 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: you're right, I mean, because Lee sold it, he committed, 167 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 5: But it was a disservice to the show and to 168 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 5: the fans because you took the character of Mouth, who 169 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 5: is so integral to the show. He's like the moral 170 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 5: compass in a lot of ways, you know, and you 171 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: made him a punchline that wasn't even funny. And then unfortunately, 172 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 5: you tied Milly to it because she's his partner, so 173 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 5: now she's stuck in these like very like lopsided scenes 174 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 5: that don't make sense where there are no steaks or no. 175 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 2: It's just like it's because I. 176 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 5: Love both of them as actors, and I just I 177 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 5: just found myself every time we had to cut back 178 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 5: and watch them, it was like watching good actors do 179 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 5: their best with really material. 180 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say hats off to Lee because I 181 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: was so shocked at how funny the moment was where 182 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: he kissed her on the cheek and goes, what got 183 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: a little mail on you? 184 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like. 185 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it was scripted or not, 186 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 3: Like I don't And and that's exactly it. Like the 187 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: the level of leaning into it. It's such a testament 188 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: to them. But when you have actors as good as 189 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: those two, just write them better. 190 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: So anyway, watching Lee over the years in that show, 191 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: like there was never a day where if I caught 192 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: some of his scenes that that dude was ever offe Like, 193 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 2: nothing fades him. He's such a vet, such a pro. 194 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: I always enjoyed watching him because he came so prepared. 195 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: He was never really phased by any that you know, 196 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: whether it's it's a ton of people in trick a 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: lot going on, or just you know, him and Millie's 198 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 2: you know, sitting together. Yeah, he just was nails all 199 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: the time. And so I that's what I was thinking 200 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: watching I was like, man, they give it to him, 201 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: they I get you could handle it. Yeah, he would 202 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: rise to the occasion, but yeah, it was, Yeah, it was. 203 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: It was interesting And don't rememberactly how that came about 204 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: or what the story was, but I'm curious to know 205 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: who's bad idea continue to push through and actually make 206 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: it into the script. 207 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's It feels like it had to be someone 208 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 5: higher up pushing it through, because I just find it 209 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 5: hard to believe that with the talent in our writer's 210 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 5: room that no one thought they couldn't beat that storyline. 211 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 5: You know, it's like the best joke wins. There's no 212 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 5: way that that talented group of writers went can't top that. Nope, 213 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 5: that's that's it. That's the pinnacle of creative storytelling. Yeah, no, no, 214 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: So that was That was kind of my main My 215 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: main gripe is just like, yeah, they deserve better and 216 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 5: they're so good, and yet we're having him do this and. 217 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't remember where it goes, but my goodness, I 218 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: hope it doesn't stay for too long. 219 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: Same and I thank you because I lost my train thought. 220 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna say is I don't remember 221 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 5: where this goes, so I I so hope that in 222 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: a few episodes I'm able to go I was wrong. 223 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 5: It actually was a great foil for something else. I hope, 224 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 5: I hope I get to eat Crow on this, But 225 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 5: because I don't, I'm just reacting to what I know, 226 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: which is like just this episode, and I'm like, oh, 227 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 5: come on, guys. 228 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 229 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: Also, I remember Lee kind of like because I know 230 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: it's gonna go on for a couple episodes. I didn't 231 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: watch ahead too much, but I remember that. You know, 232 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: he has to go to work now a couple hours earlier, 233 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: his first up, and the call time is six thirty 234 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: for everybody. He's in there at like four thirty in 235 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: the morning. Because a lot of our days are club together. 236 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: It's like if you see the scenes between Millie and Mouth, 237 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: like they're gonna shoot all that in one day, and 238 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 2: so you know they're gonna be there all day and 239 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna start early, and Lee's going to work. I mean, honestly, yeah, 240 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: he's going. He's first, probably one of the first people 241 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: to the yeah, to the studios to do all that. 242 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 5: That's another reason why it was confusing, you know, because 243 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 5: it wasn't as though they just realized, oh, we're over 244 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: budget and we need to find what's a storyline that 245 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: will cost us zero dollars. No, they had to design 246 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 5: a custom suit around his body, which is not cheap. 247 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: And make prosthetics for his face and neck. 248 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 5: So it's actually it's a storyline that's going to cost 249 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 5: more than a normal storyline. So again, it just it 250 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 5: didn't make sense because it's it wasn't like, well, we're 251 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 5: saving a ton of money here, so it's actually sort 252 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: of a necessary band aid. It's like, right, no, this 253 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 5: is costing more than arguably all of the other storylines 254 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,359 Speaker 5: because those are just locations. 255 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. 256 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 5: Listen that said, The rest of the episode was a banger. 257 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: Agreed, loved it. 258 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: One of the things that that caught me was like, man, 259 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: what a perfect kind of grenade to throw into this 260 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: last season with the arrival of one Harry Johnson, mister 261 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: Chris Keller. Uh you know, watching him, it's he's so good, 262 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: so fine. I've heard, you know, I'd heard over the 263 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: years we've never worked together, and heard all the stuff 264 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: about him, and to have the opportunity to work with 265 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: him in this season and see him up close a lot. 266 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: What a fun character. Yeah, what a great character that 267 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: he just he rocked and he's nothing like Chris Keller. 268 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: So it's what's so cool just I mean, he's such 269 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: a sweetheart, such a good dude, and Chris Keller is 270 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: such at douche, and he knocks it out of the park. 271 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: I think sometimes that that works best, like someone who's 272 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: so kind playing someone who's not it. There's something that 273 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: happens in the energetic alchemy where the jokes get funnier. 274 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: And what killed me about this episode in particular the 275 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: way he comes in in nine oh one is so good. 276 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: But the best gag in this episode is that even 277 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: though he's the worst, he's making everyone around him better. 278 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: He's making Alex his music better. He's alone with Chuck 279 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: for five minutes and he has scored Chuck's show tune 280 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: like every single time you leave him and hope he 281 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: gets what's coming to him when you get back to him. 282 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: He's made someone's day. And it's just it's it's comedic poetry. 283 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: I love it. And Tyler again commits to the bit 284 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: so hard that you can't help but love him even 285 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: though you kind of want to, like give him the 286 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: double eyepoke that my kids used to do to each 287 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: other in the fifties. 288 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: And this is. 289 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: Another testament to just how well written and well thought 290 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: through this episode was that, Yeah, they did this amazing 291 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 5: twofer that started off with a hilarious joke, which is 292 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: that Chris Keller wrote the freaking toaster pastry jingle that 293 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 5: n was singing last year. 294 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: He's saying, so that blew my mind. That alone. 295 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: I just thought, like, this is so funny that, like 296 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: this infamous song, we're actually finding out this infamous character wrote, 297 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: which is like perfectly on brand, right, And I thought 298 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 5: that was it. But no, because then that actually became 299 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: the device for Alex to sort of take a cheap 300 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 5: shot at him, for us to get a glimpse at 301 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 5: the actual vulnerability of Chris Keller. And that was such 302 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 5: a good moment because Tyler is such a good actor 303 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 5: that how do you not love getting to see him 304 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 5: drop his guard and be honest. 305 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, him getting to be vulnerable and speak about regret 306 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: and to own it kind of veneer off of No, 307 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: everything I do is great, and that you know that 308 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: pays my rent and dea da da da to drop 309 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: it and be human. It plants that little seed that 310 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,239 Speaker 3: you see in Alex. For the rest of the episode, 311 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: she goes back to Julian for advice, which we haven't 312 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: seen her do in Why you Know. It's this thing 313 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: where you get what's germinated in her mind based on 314 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: his vulnerability, and it's a better device than if he 315 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: had just been like the cocky guy saying some you know, 316 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: passing off some shtick and making her self conscious. It's 317 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: the vulnerability about the opportunities he let go that make 318 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: her afraid to let something go. And I thought, like, 319 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: how refreshing and new that moment. 320 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 5: Rob. 321 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm glad he brought that moment up because I'd written 322 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: down as one of my favorite moments of the show 323 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: was that right when you're saying the guard comes down, 324 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: and yeah, you see the vulnerability. It really gives it 325 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: out a layer to the Chris Keller of it all, 326 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: which was really really well done. 327 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 5: And they did such a good job of actually making 328 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 5: him three dimensional, you know, the fact that he is 329 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 5: good at his job, and they show us how he 330 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 5: does it, you know, so he demonstrates value. He's not 331 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 5: just there to be an asshole. And then we see 332 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: this glimpse into his vulnerability and him actually sharing his mistakes, 333 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 5: you know, hopefully for the betterment of Alex all of 334 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 5: that just fleshed him out so much, which makes him 335 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 5: that much more lovable and just awesome as a character. 336 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just so funny. He's just so damn Yeah. 337 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: Like I called him, I was like, Buddy, I'm loving 338 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 5: watching you on this show because like, like like you said, Steven, 339 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 5: he is one of the sweetest men in the world. 340 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: He's the best. 341 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 5: He's nothing like Chris Keller. But oh my god, does 342 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: he play a douchebag so believable and just so well. 343 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: And make him so likable you can't mean there of course, 344 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: there's those moments where you're like, oh the can Chris Keller, 345 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 2: Like what an ass? What an ass? But then there 346 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: are these other moments when show that vulnerability or I 347 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 2: mean even at the end you listening to him sing 348 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: as we're getting out of the episode. What a really 349 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: really cool way to tie put a bow on the 350 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: episode him singing and just having that little intimate moment, 351 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: very very cool. It's like, if you were already sold 352 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: on Chris Keller, you see that at the end of 353 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: the episode, like, oh man, I love this character. I 354 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: love watching him. 355 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 3: And what I thought was so smart too, is the 356 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: more human he's getting and even you see how enamored 357 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: with him Chuck is, and he wants to do his 358 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: hair like Chris. And then he's calling himself Chuck Skolnik 359 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: and the third person like Chris Keller does, and you're 360 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: gold that. I just I love him, even though I 361 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: want to hit him. And then he shows up at 362 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: Nathan and Haley's and just undercuts all the good he's 363 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: been doing. And James played it so perfectly because he 364 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: was so deadpanned a joy and just said my wife 365 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 3: doesn't tell me things anymore. And I was like, this, 366 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: it's just so well done. 367 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: What does James say at the door? How that line 368 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: written down? He's like, why do I say these things? 369 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: He says something right before he opens the door and 370 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: it's Chris Keller there. He says to himself that really 371 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: it was a great delivery. 372 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, speaking of funny things, let's just rewind real quick 373 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 5: to the start of the episode. So, first of all, 374 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 5: the panic, the opening shot of Brooke and Julian waking. 375 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: Brooke really wakes up in the path. He's like because 376 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 5: she doesn't hear the kids, and as a parent, I 377 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 5: was like, that is so real and so freaking funny. 378 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 5: But cut to we find out it's Victoria has the 379 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 5: twins in the kitchen. My new favorite thing is watching 380 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 5: Austin House Food because his delivery when he said he says, 381 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 5: oh my god, I love coffee cake while he's just 382 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 5: in hailing it, and of course Brooke is not okay 383 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: because why is Victoria in their house with the babies 384 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 5: and he just can't be bothered to address it as 385 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 5: day next time is quiet babies, coffee cake? 386 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: Amazing? 387 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: It was. He was just so funny, man. Yeah, it 388 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 5: killed me. 389 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 3: I loved like getting to do physical comedy in this 390 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: way was always my favorite part of the show. And 391 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: just the fact that we were able to have that 392 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: the panic, what's going on? There's there's the humor in 393 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: the sit up, in the look around, run into the room, 394 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: you know, somebody fuck them. They're gone back into each other. 395 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: He's on the ground. He tells me to hit him, 396 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 3: and I slibb him across the face, all because we 397 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: can't understand the picture of Victoria Davis in like a 398 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: nineteen fifties housewife, apron and two perfectly behaved babies in 399 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 3: the high Trick. It it just kept getting better and 400 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: it's like, that's the joke you want to build. It's 401 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 3: the opposite of the hat on the hat that they 402 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: threw it at Lee and Lisa unfortunately. And I was like, man, 403 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 3: this is this is exactly what I want to be doing. 404 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: All yeah, you guys killed that. It was I was 405 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: just saying, it was so far watching that you had 406 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: to pop up and a run around the house him 407 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: sliding it into the other rooms, that somebody stole them, 408 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: and that you guys bump into each other. It was like, 409 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: very well executed. I really really enjoyed that part. 410 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: Oh so well. When at first I thought it was 411 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 5: a bit right. I thought he was sensing that Brooke 412 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 5: and Victoria were about to get into it, and he 413 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 5: was trying to like distract and deflect. 414 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: But then what was. 415 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: Funny about it is you realized that's actually not the case. 416 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 5: He is just so happy to have fresh coffee cake 417 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 5: and quiet babies. Yeah, it was so smart and so funny. 418 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: Man, it's so great. It's so great, and that the 419 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 3: funny thing is like it was clearly funny then, but 420 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: I was thinking about you watching the episode, Rob, because 421 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, now we both live 422 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: in a house with two toddlers. Like, I know Rob's 423 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: having the same experience I'm having right now, because it's 424 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: like you wake up to quiet and you go. 425 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: I don't want to move. 426 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to move, I don't want to breathe, 427 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to risk And it's just the stuff 428 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: you don't know until you know it. And I I 429 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: was giggling thinking about you watching that scene. 430 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 5: Oh, as soon as you have kids sleeping, like everything, 431 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 5: as soon as the house is quiet, it becomes like 432 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: the hurt locker. 433 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 3: Oh, you're like, don't you make a single sound, gently, 434 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: don't shake the floorboards of the house. 435 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. With our son, he was not a 436 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 5: good sleeper, and so like as soon as he was 437 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 5: actually down, and it was that like that that thing 438 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 5: where it's just like if one of us made a sound, 439 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 5: you're like like whisper fighting because you were just so 440 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 5: afraid of protecting this small window of peace. 441 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible. I also love that as they're so 442 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: confused by the fact that they've gotten sleep and the 443 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: fact that the babies are quiet, and what the fuck 444 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: is going on? Why is Victoria baking? I loved Daphne's 445 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: delivery of you don't see your father doing any of this, 446 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, oh, I see what you're up to, lady, Okay, 447 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 3: it's perfect. 448 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: Thank god dance back. You know, you don't realize how 449 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: much I was aware of he wasn't in season eight, 450 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 5: but like, I didn't realize how much I missed him 451 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 5: until he's back and he is just that like drama. Umami, yeah, like, 452 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: oh that's it. 453 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: I also love the flip of Julian this is so good, Victoria, 454 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: and it cuts to Nathan going, this is not good, Hales, 455 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: and it's like, it's all the parents. It's just parental drama, 456 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: and no matter how old we get, we need it. 457 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: We need the parents in the show. 458 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 5: And there's not really any inherent comedy with what's happening 459 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 5: between Nathan and Dan, but they built in this really 460 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: great comedic device where Haley and Nathan are talking in 461 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: their bedroom and she she was like, listen, I realized 462 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 5: you weren't here. I didn't know what to do, and 463 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 5: she basically says, I told him, if you want him 464 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 5: to go, he has to go, and it smash cuts 465 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: too Nathan's standing over Dan in bed, going you. 466 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: Have to go. It was just such a great device, 467 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: you know. 468 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that whole storyline, you know, like it's great. 469 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 5: Dan Scott is the ultimate joker card. He's he's the 470 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: wild card, like you just don't know what he's up to, 471 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 5: And several times in this episode, because he's so believable 472 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 5: when he's when he's I don't know air quotes pretending 473 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 5: to be sincere. But then you have moments like why 474 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 5: is he evesdropping on Nathan and Haley's private conversation in 475 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 5: their bedroom not cool boundaries. Also at the end of 476 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 5: the episode, when Nathan leaves and he basically tells him like, 477 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 5: hey man, you can be here for right now, but 478 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: you need to have an exit strategy in place, very 479 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 5: very soon. And as soon as Nathan goes and Dan 480 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 5: has like that line to Jamie or he's like, don't worry, 481 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 5: I'm going to be here for a while. 482 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: See yeah, you're like, what is it? And the device 483 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 3: of Jamie like having a kid old enough to have 484 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: their own relationship with someone, to have their own desires 485 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 3: and running commentary also in a weird way, adds to 486 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: both the tension and the comedy of the Scott House 487 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: Right Now because as soon as you get that jump 488 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: cut to Nathan saying you have to go. There's sweet 489 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: little Jamie being like you didn't set a place for grandpa, 490 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: and he starts moving the dishes around on the table 491 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: and you're just like, oh shit, they're going to have 492 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: to eat their words now, and then boom, Dan's at breakfast. 493 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: It's it's all. 494 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: It's really well Dan Scott. I mean, he's he's the 495 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: character where I mean, you're gonna stick around for that guy. 496 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: They're like, I want to see what this extra is 497 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: going to do next because he is just in't here 498 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: causing chaos, and uh yeah, he's such a great character. 499 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 5: Can I pitch my fan theory that I came up 500 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 5: with while I was watching this, Yes, it's going to 501 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 5: be out there, right, But I don't remember all the specifics, 502 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 5: but I do know obviously that Nathan is he's on 503 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 5: the cusp of being kidnapped. Right, You're right, is there 504 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 5: a world in which Dan Scott, who I know ultimately 505 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 5: is the savior is arranged so the perpetrator? I'm just 506 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 5: saying because here's why, right, Remember in the episode nine 507 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 5: oh one, there was like there was a couple creepy 508 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: instances of like Karen's cafe front door was left open, 509 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: there was someone jiggling the handle at at the James 510 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 5: House and we were like, was it the gangster thing? Okay, 511 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 5: it couldn't have been gangsters. It had to have been 512 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 5: Dan Scott because Nathan wasn't even supposed to be in 513 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 5: Europe at this at that point in the storytelling, because 514 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 5: Clay was the one who was supposed to go, it 515 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 5: was an eleventh hour decision for Nathan to step in 516 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 5: for him. So I just thought, I just found myself 517 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 5: when I watched that shot of Dan standing there with 518 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 5: Jamie watching the car drive away. And because Dan Scott 519 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 5: is Dan Scott, it is not outside the realm of 520 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 5: possibility for him to orchestrate. I mean, listen, the season 521 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 5: started with him setting his own place of work on fire, 522 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 5: his own home and business. So I just thought, wouldn't 523 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: And so I'm just putting that out there because I 524 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 5: don't remember the specifics and that might be disproved very soon, 525 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 5: but I just thought, like, wouldn't that be so Dan 526 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 5: Scott to have your own son kidnapped so then you 527 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: could be the hero and the good guy again. 528 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: And by the way. You know why I like where 529 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: you're going with this because near the end of the episode, 530 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 3: when Haley and Nathan are talking, she oh, no, no, 531 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: it's when she's talking to Date and she essentially is saying, 532 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: I am angry at you for what you did to 533 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: Keith every day, and then she repeats that to Nate, saying, 534 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: you know, he took Keith from us, but he also 535 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: saved our son's life. So it's like her feelings about 536 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: him are on a seesaw. There's the most horrible thing 537 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: and the most amazing thing waited on opposite ends, right, 538 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: So how do you make the most horrible thing maybe 539 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 3: go away? You have to do another one of the 540 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: most amazing things, which is save the other person. 541 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 5: Yes, and the conversation you're referencing was that the one 542 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 5: that we pulled out from and saw that he was 543 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 5: in the hallway listening, Yes, yes, yes, saying. 544 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: We're aw by me in it. Oh, detective work over here. 545 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm impressed you are, Stephen. 546 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: All the fans are clamoring for Rob to start watching 547 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: the show from season one because of his reactions to 548 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: the things he learns, like the fact that Brooke and 549 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: Chase dated in high school, and now I'm like, should 550 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: you be should you be going back and starting or 551 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: are you gonna, like, are you going to write the 552 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: fan fiction? Are you like, I don't know, You're not 553 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities. 554 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 5: I'll wear a couple of hats, guys, Let's do it. Okay, Yeah, 555 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 5: I'll be I'll recap and fan fixed. Let's do it. 556 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: I love it. Uh, Poor Quinn, oh man, you know 557 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: so heavy. You know what really was a shot to 558 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: the heart for me was that beautiful scene with you 559 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: and Chantelle where you're fighting her on therapy and she 560 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: doesn't understand why and she has to stop you by saying, 561 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: this is happening to me too. 562 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 5: Oh. 563 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: It just like it was like an emotional gut punch 564 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: in a good way, because it's the perfect way to 565 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: explain what it is like to love someone who is 566 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: in some version of danger. 567 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 568 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: And when that like, you know, when you're looking at 569 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: your person and they're suffering, you're suffering too. And I 570 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: thought it was really beautiful. 571 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 5: She is exhibiting an olympic level of patience and grace 572 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 5: with the situation because Clay is being real up to 573 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 5: some sort of I think just selfish and self involved 574 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 5: and thinking it's not having repercussions when she's having to 575 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 5: just pick him up from the Pollee station in random 576 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: parks in the middle of the night. I mean, that's yeah, 577 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 5: that's crazy, so scary behavior because think about it, that 578 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 5: means your partner could be getting hit by a car 579 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 5: like they don't, Well, that's it. It's it's nuts. So 580 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: she has handled it so so so well, and especially 581 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 5: that it's like it's just therapy, you know, it's not 582 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 5: like it's a it's a serious medication that's going to 583 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 5: change who you are is a person. 584 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 585 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 5: That would be a little it would make a little 586 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 5: more sense to be stubborn about it, but it's I 587 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 5: felt for her that she was having to fight so 588 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 5: hard for something that seemed incredibly reasonable. 589 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: I did too. And then what I loved was we 590 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: had the same aha moment in the Vulnerable reveal with 591 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: Clay that we had with Chris Keller in their own ways, 592 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: when you finally say, closer to the end of the episode, 593 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: it if medication fixes me, then then I'm sick. If 594 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: it's in my head, then I'm crazy. And I went, oh, okay, 595 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: I understand why. I understand that he is experiencing such 596 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: deep fear about what this could mean, that he's terrified 597 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: to know the answer. And Ah, he's not dismissing her feelings. 598 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: He's not being dismissive of his own safety. He's really 599 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: really scared to know what's wrong. And it was a 600 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: really nice moment to see for you. 601 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, because without that, he just seems like he's being 602 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 5: selfish and unreasonable, and yeah, that makes and then you 603 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 5: hear that, and also given his history, you're like, fair enough, 604 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 5: you've gone through some serious traumas that you haven't really 605 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 5: done the work around. 606 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: It was a great scene with you, Rob Chantelle, James 607 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: and Jackson when you're like, you told Nathan and she's like, 608 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: of course I did. And you're all in the room 609 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: going back and forth. And again, Jamie serves for the 610 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: comedic device in the heavy situation, just like he's doing 611 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: in the house with Nathan and Haley and Dan with 612 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: you guys, him getting so amped that Clay might be 613 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: a werewolf. He's just it's like chef's kiss. It's the 614 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: perfect levity to let some of the pressure out of 615 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: the valve. 616 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 5: And again, great writing because they also found a moment 617 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 5: to show the friendship and the care and the love 618 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 5: between Nathan and Clay. Yeah, that Nathan was about to 619 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 5: make a really big sacrifice that wasn't going to be 620 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 5: easy on his family, and he didn't think about it twice. 621 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 5: So it was just like everything worked on multiple levels, 622 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 5: you know, and Haley being bummed but getting it, you 623 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 5: know because like she also cares for Clay. 624 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: It was it was all of it was great, man, 625 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 4: it was all really good. 626 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 5: Okay, let's talk about Brooks dad, how charming is. 627 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: So charming and the sexual tension between Ted and Daphney, 628 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: how much they hate each other but like it's a 629 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 3: and the way they know because nobody throws a barb 630 00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 3: like Victoria Davis except for Ted Davis. And seeing them 631 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 3: go in a Ted a Ted, I'm obsessed with it. 632 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 5: Also, no one dramatically pounds a Martini better than Daphne's Zuniga. 633 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: No, incredible. 634 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 5: That was such a great moment. But yes, the way 635 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 5: he plays with her, Oh, the way he just sort 636 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 5: of sits back with that smirk and just lobs just 637 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 5: grenades at her is so good. And this scene with 638 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 5: uh Brooke and what's his name Ted. 639 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: It's Ted. Yeah. 640 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 5: This scene with Brooke and Ted when he's very late 641 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 5: for lunch, imber I noted that it's it is. He 642 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 5: presents just the right amount of ick to be noticeable 643 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 5: and slightly concerning, but not enough to be red flaggy. 644 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. And there's a really interesting thing because Brooke and 645 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 3: Victoria have made it through their stuff. It makes sense 646 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 3: that Brooke excuses the red flags about Ted because they're 647 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 3: always coming out of Victoria's mouth, and she's like, well, 648 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 3: of course you hate him, but look at us. You changed, 649 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 3: he could change, so in a weird way, Victoria, it's 650 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 3: like she could be his foil, but she can't be 651 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 3: because she unfoiled herself. And it's it's really good. It's 652 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 3: a good tug of war that they've given. And I 653 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 3: love that Victoria tries to go to Julian for help 654 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 3: and he's just like, uh uh, I just want Brook happy, 655 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 3: let me alone. 656 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 5: As he's finishing the last phrase of the coffee cake, 657 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 5: which was such a smart choice to have him with 658 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 5: that like nearly empty plate of food. The runner is 659 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 5: so and it gives us great opportunity for us to 660 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 5: see that Victoria really cares about Brook. It's not just 661 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 5: about being petty with her ex husband. It's also her 662 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 5: showing up to say like, don't don't burn her, you know, 663 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 5: which made what I thought was going to be her 664 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 5: getting stood up at lunch so much more painful. 665 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's good. I also just hats off to 666 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 3: Daphne because I have so much fun working with her 667 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: and they give us that, they give us our own 668 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 3: version of a seesaw. And when she when Brooke asks 669 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: what's wrong, and Daphne just rattles off that list. I'm 670 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: not getting any younger, I'm not having any sex my 671 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 3: conniving ex husband. And it's just like it's so it's 672 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: so so great, and I love getting to see the 673 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 3: dynamic they give to us where I get to be 674 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 3: sassy with her and say, first of all, ill second, 675 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: and then we're into the thing. It's just like, ah, 676 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: it's an energy that I miss and very much like 677 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 3: when you see Dan Scott and you go god, I 678 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 3: missed that guy, Like whenever I see Brooke and Victoria 679 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: kind of go at it. I want more. 680 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 5: My favorite line of the episode, first of all, you 681 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 5: so good. 682 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: You guys worked so well together. I remember watching it. 683 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 2: I remember taking acts of being on set and see 684 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 2: whenever you guys work together, it always kind of stopped 685 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 2: me to hang out and watch a little bit more 686 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: of what you guys were doing because it was such 687 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: a good dynamic between the two of you. So just 688 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: to what you're saying right there had the like acknowledgement 689 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: of something and then get to what Brook needs to 690 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: get to right like, all right, I'm gonna deal with 691 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: that later, like clearly if you could just you can 692 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: see the history and the baggage between the two of them, 693 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 2: and uh, it's yeah, it's it's deep, and it's it's 694 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: when you guys are on screen together. Really, it really pops. 695 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: Thanks Pal. 696 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: I also love there's things that I think I've realized 697 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: through you know, our adulthood and like another ad for 698 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 3: better help therapy, like so many people in our sort 699 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 3: of age range have had to deal with the ramifications 700 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 3: of being you know, parentified children. And I was watching 701 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: that argument and I was like, oh my god, look 702 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 3: Brook literally has to parent her mom. Like they get 703 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 3: into it and then she's like, do you know how 704 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 3: ridiculous it is that I can only get you to 705 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 3: to pay attention to me if I'm making clothes. I 706 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: just want parents that want to spend time with me. 707 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 3: And it's so it's so spot on because they're her parents, 708 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: but she has to parent them all the time. Makes 709 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 3: me get go. 710 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 5: Let me ask a question. Is it romantic or bold 711 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 5: or inappropriate to move someone in without having even asked 712 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 5: them first? 713 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: Mate, I have the exact same question. I was waiting 714 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: for you guys to bring it up, but I was 715 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 2: just like, I'm just gonna sit back. Of course, someone's 716 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: gotta mention because this is not this is not normal. 717 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: This is not not normal behavior. 718 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's it's I was even I was 719 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: asking my fiance. I was like, this is this would 720 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: you find the sway? Which you find it creepy? He's like, well, 721 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: how long they had been dating? And she asked all 722 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 2: these questions on Alexi, You're having to ask a lot 723 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 2: of questions. It's not an easy Yes, it's weird, it's. 724 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 5: All okay, Yeah, I thought so as well. 725 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 3: So here's the thing. And we've talked about this a lot. 726 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 3: We talked about this last week. You know, in the 727 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: first episode of the season, we were like, God, poor 728 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: Steven and Jana. I just had to be in a 729 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 3: bed and half naked. And but you guys are so 730 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 3: good together. You have such great natural chemistry as co 731 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 3: stars that you make things that could feel icky really 732 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 3: enjoyable to watch. And so the notes I wrote, I 733 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: was like, wait a second, Cha's talking to Chuck about this. 734 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 3: It sort of seems adorable. And then they get there 735 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 3: and they're packing up her stuff. She's being given a choice, 736 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: she's not her opinion is not asked. It's actually really 737 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 3: an overreach and kind of creepy. And yet you and 738 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: Jana make it so sweet and her kind of overwhelm 739 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: and you were like, here's your glasses in your picture 740 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 3: and I knew you'd need these things. And here's where 741 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 3: I did all your toilet trees. And it's you guys 742 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: are so sweet that you make a creepy situation less creepy. 743 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: But I still think if someone did it to me, 744 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: I might be like, oh, we're like two steps away 745 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: from put the lotion in the basket. Really, what's happening here? 746 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 2: What I felt watching it was and I don't remember 747 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: this as much when we were shooting it. I remember like, okay, 748 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: this is what topic. When need to commit to this, 749 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 2: Like you know he Chase is really just trying to 750 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 2: put his best foot forward and trying to display his 751 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: love for her, which, by the way, before he tells 752 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 2: her he is in love with her, he tells Chuck 753 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: that the first person he tells about it, which is 754 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: just kind of a little odd for me as well. 755 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it's weird, but it's sweet. 756 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, and I think at the undercurt of 757 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 2: it all is like he is trying to be sweet, right, 758 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: and it comes from a sweety place, but yeah, the 759 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 2: delivery is not quite smooth, and it just not Yeah, 760 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 2: I don't think it would be accepted by by most folks. 761 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 2: I feel like somebody like, you know what, that's cool. 762 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 2: I love that he took that. That's great. But for me, 763 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 2: the problem I have with it is that it was 764 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: like he was not going to give her a chance 765 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: to say no, even after the fact, because when we 766 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: get into him like I've got the surprise for you, 767 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 2: she comes over and then he is showing her you know, 768 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 2: your your your pictures on the wall, right, your glasses 769 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 2: are on the night stand, the makeup is in the bathroom. 770 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 2: You don't have a choice. You cannot say Ei, there's 771 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 2: no way you can say I'm not ready for this 772 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 2: or I'm a little creeped out, like so that was like, 773 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: oh man, like she she has to be okay with it. 774 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was an odd, odd, odd 775 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: display of love. But you know what, maybe fan fiction 776 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: rob can but can we say he was just so 777 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 2: drunk on love trying to you know, he needed to 778 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: get it out and he had set it yet and 779 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 2: he decided to take action by moving stuff. 780 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 5: That's that's how I can make sense of it. Right. 781 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 5: I still think it's a huge misstep because you're not 782 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 5: inviting someone to cohabitate. 783 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 2: You are. 784 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 5: You are making a decision, a unilateral decision, and then 785 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 5: you are choosing where they get to take up space. 786 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 5: It's no, it's really bad, right, that's it. 787 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like collaboration. It feels like claiming yes. 788 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 5: And but here here's why, because you. Chase also has 789 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 5: a line that really bummed me out in a big way, 790 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 5: which is after you say I love you and you 791 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 5: guys have sex, you're laying there an apropos of nothing. 792 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 5: You just go or Chase goes it's okay, you didn't 793 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 5: say it back, and she's like, huh, it's okay, you 794 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 5: didn't say I love you back, And I'm like, if 795 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 5: this isn't the most no therapy backwards way to try 796 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 5: to get into the conversation you want to have. But 797 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 5: the reason why you're that's why I think it works. 798 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 5: If we're gonna why I would argue that it's fine. 799 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 5: The way it is is everything you did that Chase 800 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 5: did is born of good intention. I don't think Chase 801 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 5: did it to be controlling. I think Chase did it 802 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 5: because he loves her and he wants to show it. 803 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 5: And I think then he also this the circling back 804 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 5: on that didn't say I love you. He's insecure, you know, 805 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 5: and he's trying to sort of feel that out. And 806 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 5: because you play the role with such sincerity, that's why 807 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 5: I think it works, Because exactly, I buy a twenty 808 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 5: five year old dude whatever you're supposed to be at 809 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 5: this point, who is putting on his adult pants for 810 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 5: the first time. It's awkward and it's clumsy, and so yeah, 811 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 5: I understand all of it. 812 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, So this feels like the relationship to Chase is 813 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 2: one that he does not and again it could sound 814 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 2: creepy at first, but he does not want to let go. 815 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 2: He does not want to let this one go. He 816 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 2: doesn't want to lose it after you know, considering what's 817 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 2: happened in his past relationships and which is kind of 818 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: ultimately you know where we know the sends up. Which 819 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 2: is so tragic about it all is because him coming 820 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: off of having this relationship with me and what she 821 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: meant to him, and really not wanting to screw up 822 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: the next one and really wanting to make the next 823 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: one work. You know, I feel like when you see 824 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: it with the little like love triangle that they're in, 825 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: like Chase was out of his league and it was 826 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 2: like he did not want to be in this situation. 827 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: It's not you know, that's not something that like he 828 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 2: found himself in often. And so now that he's got 829 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: a girl that he feels struggling about, he feels like 830 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 2: it's reciprocated. He's like, Okay, like let's like let's make 831 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 2: the steps for her to one hundred percent know that 832 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 2: I'm all in, and hopefully that'll want her to maybe 833 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 2: stick around, right or any opportunity that she might have 834 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 2: to question the relationship, question his love for her, or 835 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 2: go somewhere else, she would be she would not be 836 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 2: able to take it, because man, what a great thing 837 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 2: that we have. And that's the way I felt about it, 838 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 2: like for seeing him as like I can't let anything 839 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: come between this, so like let's let's just get you know, 840 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: let's get this train rolling. And you know, there's something 841 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 2: to be said about, you know, moving too quick or 842 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 2: being too eager. And I think in that situation, you know, 843 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: while it's coming from a good place, you're you're you're 844 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: seeing him too eager, and ultimately it's gonna buy it. 845 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 3: But well, I think that's a really astute observation because 846 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: especially when you're younger, you know, if you think about 847 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: like a pendulum swing, if you think you've made a mistake, 848 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 3: the way to do it differently is actually to come 849 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 3: to center. But so often people go like, oh, I 850 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 3: did this dumb thing. Let me go do this thing 851 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 3: over here, And it takes, you know, time to learn 852 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 3: not to do that, to to not failing on both 853 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 3: hard in the other direction, to try to course correct. 854 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 3: May or may not be saying that from experience, you 855 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 3: who knows. 856 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: Are we all? Are we all? 857 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 3: Are we all? I think that's a real thing, and 858 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 3: and I think that's what you're observing, and that's what 859 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 3: makes it feel really grounded. And to Rob's point, you're 860 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 3: really genuinely excited about it. So it doesn't it doesn't 861 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 3: feel creepy coming from Chase. But I also think as 862 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 3: adults were like, oh, a bad call man. No, no, 863 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: we know better, and that's not the vibe. 864 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 5: And as someone who likes Chase and roots for Chase, 865 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 5: one thing I will say is that he has good 866 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 5: instincts because we learned last season from his little confessional 867 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 5: with Julian when when he was stuck in the middle 868 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 5: level love triangle, he made the surprising decision of saying 869 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 5: no to both of them. Yeah and it so it 870 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 5: had he stuck with what his gut told him, Like 871 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 5: he was right, you know what I mean, Like his gut, 872 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 5: his gut was right. So I feel like and then 873 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 5: like we see the stuff with Chuck, it we are 874 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 5: just watching a young man grow up. But at his core, 875 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 5: like all of the right things are there, you know, 876 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,959 Speaker 5: his like his morality, he's there. His instincts are good 877 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 5: and seem to be on, you know, and like, so 878 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 5: we're just watching him go through the trial and error 879 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 5: of figuring it out. But he's a good guy. You know, 880 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 5: he's going to get there. We're just watching, you know, 881 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 5: some rough drafts. 882 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I felt it's like I remember thinking 883 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 2: about this with with with Chase. 884 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 3: With to what you're. 885 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 2: Saying, I think you hit it on the head, Matt. 886 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 2: It it feels like he always he wanted to do 887 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 2: the right thing, did have a good set of morals 888 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: and values around him, but would find himself experiencing life 889 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 2: where it's like, I don't care who you are and 890 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: how perfect you you aspire to be in life, like 891 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: you're going to You're going to step in s h 892 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 2: I T at some point, you know, and and you're 893 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 2: going to have your issues and your problems with with 894 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 2: certain people, or you're gonna some people are gonn align 895 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 2: with you and how you handle that. And so I 896 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 2: think that that's why I see it's like that, you know, 897 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 2: Chase his core, he really does mean well, but it's 898 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 2: just the execution is not always smooth. 899 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 900 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 3: I think that's really which is great, but it breaks 901 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 3: my heart because at the end when she goes and 902 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 3: says to Chris, I want to go on the tour, 903 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 3: I was like, good, too much, too much, too much 904 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 3: to blow and parachute oh god, yep, yep. 905 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 5: There's especially like when you see someone has completely dropped 906 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 5: their armor and they're like, yeah, well nothing here but vulnerability, 907 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 5: and then that they're about to get just completely caught 908 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 5: off guard. 909 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sad for you. I'm nervous for next week. 910 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 2: It was a yeah, I remember it was. It was 911 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 2: kind of a shocking I mean, look where it's it's 912 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 2: TV the stuff. It's like, right when you get the 913 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: bow on the present and it's ready to go that 914 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 2: it's you know, someone's gonna steal it, right or it 915 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: gets ripped apart like it. That's with the journey and 916 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 2: for Chasing and Alex. You know, all right this you think, 917 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 2: And I I remember going like, all right, that's cool. 918 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 2: Let's see how they interact as a couple that is 919 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: feeling secured together. How are they going to take out 920 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: on the world together? But what are they going to 921 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: have to navigate together as a as a couple. And 922 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 2: we don't really see that, We don't really get that 923 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 2: because it's you know, the rugs pulled out from underneath 924 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: it and and that's it. And uh, I remember being 925 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 2: disappointed that all of a sudden all right, we're going 926 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: to you know, see Alex as much anymore. 927 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 3: So Yeah, I know it's hard. 928 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: But and I want to, you know, circle back to 929 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 2: the questions we have before night. The question I get 930 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 2: often when where iver at a convention or something, which 931 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 2: is where Chase. Where I feel Chase's is best suited 932 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 2: between the Mia and Alex at all. And I really 933 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 2: did screw up by like kind of like give it 934 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 2: a half baked answer about Oh, I think Mia would 935 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: be a good one because watching this and watching some 936 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 2: of the end of season and seeing what Alex and 937 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 2: Chase had together, and seeing how Janna plays Alex, like 938 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 2: really really some some great stuff. But it's bringing back 939 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 2: a lot of good memories of working with Channa. She's 940 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: a fantastic actress, and her Alex is so good that 941 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 2: the character she's she's so good on screen. So there 942 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 2: there is a strong, strong case for what could have 943 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 2: been one hundred percent with Chase said Alex. Yeah, I agree, 944 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 2: I listen. 945 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 5: I having you know, I have no idea how the 946 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 5: rest of the season wraps up. I'm assuming because I 947 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 5: thought you and Mia were like always in game that 948 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 5: it's going to be you and Mea or chasing Mea. 949 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 5: And if that's the case, boy, I just sure hope 950 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 5: there's a good reason for it, and it's not just 951 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 5: well you're the last girl left in town, you know? 952 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 5: But I agree, I love I love Chasing Alex. I 953 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 5: have been so pleasantly surprised that it has gone on 954 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 5: for as long as it did, because, like I said, 955 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 5: I I thought you guys had like a one episode 956 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 5: thing and that was it. 957 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 2: So you are in for a curveball. I do know 958 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 2: what comes next, and I wish I could see I 959 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 2: wish I could see you watch it. 960 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 5: I'll text you. I'll text you after it. I'm sure 961 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 5: i'll know the episode. 962 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a doozy, my friend, it 963 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 2: is a doozy. 964 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 5: Well. 965 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 3: We have a listener question, which is interesting because we 966 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 3: are talking about how things wrap up, and Chris wants 967 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 3: to know going into the final season, was there a 968 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 3: sense of pressure or responsibility to give longtime fans the 969 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 3: ending they deserved. 970 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 5: I feel like that pressure was more on the writers, 971 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 5: don't you. 972 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. I think it's 973 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 3: really tricky when you are an actor, because yes, of 974 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 3: course you want things to be beautiful and everyone knows 975 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 3: how hard it is to you know, wrap up a 976 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 3: whole series in a perfect bow. But I think it 977 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 3: would be so much harder, you know, to be like 978 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 3: a Quinta or someone who writes and stars in their 979 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 3: own show. I think I would have like a nervous 980 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 3: breakdown for a series finale if I had to write it. 981 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 2: And I agree with you, guys, I think it's it's 982 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 2: definitely all it's the writers are the real heroes in 983 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 2: this right They are the ones that are putting that 984 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 2: story down and then we show up to play it. 985 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 2: But I would feel, you know, I would not feel 986 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 2: appropriate answering that question. I feel like, soph you would 987 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: be the one just because you've been there from the beginning, 988 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm curious because you you I actually 989 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 2: like I speak for you, but I would I would 990 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 2: feel like maybe if I was in your shoes, I 991 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 2: was it from the beginning and I knew the impact 992 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 2: that this show had that were you going into the 993 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 2: last season just hoping and praying that they were going 994 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 2: to do right by your character? And did you did 995 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 2: you at all feel the pressure of like, oh no, 996 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 2: what's like? How are they gonna you know, put a 997 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 2: bow on on the on the book of it all. 998 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 2: What's it going to be? Were you very curious to 999 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 2: ask them even going in or at the end of 1000 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 2: season eight. 1001 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I thought the end of season eight was 1002 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 3: really beautiful. We talked a few weeks ago about how 1003 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 3: it really did feel like a series finale because we 1004 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 3: all thought it was gonna be. You know, I remember 1005 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 3: even like an amazing conversation I had. I went out 1006 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 3: to dinner with two of the writers in like the 1007 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 3: last few weeks of season eight, And I won't say 1008 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 3: who they are because I don't want to blow them 1009 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 3: up on the internet, but like there were things where 1010 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 3: they were like, oh my god, now we can finally 1011 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 3: tell you this story, or we da da da da, 1012 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 3: And then we all came back and we were like, 1013 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll be friends forever, but it is also 1014 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 3: really awkward that now we know these things and we're here, 1015 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,760 Speaker 3: we have to like work with that person or whatever 1016 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 3: I think for me, you know, to Rob's earlier question, 1017 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 3: like about Lee's storyline, we obviously like our boss was 1018 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 3: an incredibly talented writer who ran an incredibly talented writer's 1019 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 3: room and also a vindictive, unkind person in some really 1020 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 3: terrible ways at terrible times. And what I think was 1021 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 3: hard about knowing we were going to wrap up and 1022 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 3: seeing some of the things happening for people was like 1023 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 3: people were getting really amazing stuff that it did feel 1024 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 3: like the characters deserved, and then people were getting dunked 1025 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 3: on in really unkind ways, and I just remember thinking, like, 1026 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 3: I really hope those things can stop by the time 1027 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 3: we get to our thirteenth episode, because this show means 1028 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 3: so much to so many people, to all of us, 1029 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 3: to the crew, but to the people who watch it, 1030 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 3: and I hope it's great. And I remember near the end, 1031 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 3: you know, spoiler alert if you haven't watched it, speed up. 1032 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 3: But I remember near the end, when Julian builds the 1033 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,720 Speaker 3: high school on the sound stage, we had this scene 1034 00:55:52,760 --> 00:56:00,280 Speaker 3: in the hallway, and the scene just didn't feel great 1035 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 3: like it was. It was a very normal conversation between 1036 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 3: Brooke and Julian, and I remember saying to you know, 1037 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 3: the wonderful Greg Prange, like can I just have a second, 1038 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 3: Can I just talk for a second. And I just 1039 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 3: talked about our show and us in this place, and 1040 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 3: they put everything that I had lived in the episode 1041 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 3: and like that for me felt to answer Chris's question, 1042 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 3: like that's where I felt it. I was like in 1043 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 3: this moment, like I can't be Brooke Davis standing in 1044 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 3: front of Peyton's locker with nine years of history and 1045 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 3: like not say more, and they let me try one 1046 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 3: and then it made the episode and like that that 1047 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 3: was the moment where I was like, Okay, I got 1048 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 3: I got to sprinkle a little bit more for me 1049 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 3: and for our for our. 1050 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 6: Fans too, and it's also special, super cool and I 1051 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 6: and you used the word hope multiple times in that explanation, 1052 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 6: and that's what I was going to say is I 1053 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 6: didn't feel a sense of pressure or responsibility, I mean 1054 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 6: beyond the normal responsibility of you know, trying to play 1055 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 6: the characters as well as I could. 1056 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 5: I would say I had a sense of hope of 1057 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 5: just really crossing my fingers that we were going to 1058 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 5: land the plane and we were going to stick the landing. 1059 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 5: And I think by when we were shooting episode thirteen, 1060 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 5: especially like that the real kind of the wrap up 1061 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 5: of it feeling like Okay, this feels like we're in 1062 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 5: the right sandbox with giving that sort of like the respectful, 1063 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 5: happy ending to this world that we've created, and hopefully 1064 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,439 Speaker 5: the fans feel the same way. 1065 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after the potential of a few seasons ending 1066 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 2: and being like this could be very well could be 1067 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: the last episode where everyone was, you know, convinced that 1068 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 2: maybe it was, and that it would come back, it 1069 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 2: would come back again, come back again. 1070 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 3: I also just remember, you know, it was a mix 1071 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 3: of emotions for all of us, right, like everyone was 1072 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 3: ready to be done, but also we didn't know what 1073 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 3: was coming next, and it's sad to think about leaving 1074 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 3: your friends and whatever hit me in our last episode. 1075 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 3: I mean I cried for two straight weeks every time 1076 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 3: I looked at any of you, every time I looked 1077 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 3: at like Maddie Doll on the camera, I just I 1078 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 3: just kept sobbing. And Tim was like, you have to 1079 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 3: stop crying. Your makeup hop and I'm like, god, I'm sorry, 1080 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 3: Like I don't know. It was so it was like 1081 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,479 Speaker 3: a really special bit or sweet thing. 1082 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 2: It was important. It was a very important part of 1083 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,919 Speaker 2: all our lives during that time. I mean, at least 1084 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 2: for me, it's something I look back and think about, 1085 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, A good chunk of my twenties growing up 1086 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 2: with you guys out there, and you field so fortunate 1087 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 2: to not only the experience work wise, the experience just 1088 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 2: with the people you guys, and the times that we 1089 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 2: had offset together were always so fun, and those memories 1090 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 2: I cherished the dearly, dearly to have, especially you know, 1091 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 2: to get growing up in southern California, to find myself 1092 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: in a little town on the East coast, not just 1093 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 2: for four years of college or something like that, but 1094 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 2: you know, for for a good chunk of you know, 1095 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 2: of a decade and making something that we were all 1096 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 2: so happy to actually have the opportunity the dream job, 1097 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 2: a job that we always hope that we'd get. So 1098 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 2: cherish those moments, even though you know, I think, yeah, 1099 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 2: by the time we get to season nine, a lot 1100 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 2: of people were like, all right, we've been doing the 1101 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 2: show for a very long time. Maybe it's time to 1102 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 2: move on to something else. But you know, for me, 1103 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 2: it was like I popped in season six and then 1104 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, getting to see nine, I was around a 1105 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 2: lot more. But I also felt even at that point, like, 1106 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 2: you know what, it's it feels like it's time. It's 1107 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 2: it's been a great run, and it does feel like 1108 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 2: it's time to put this down. 1109 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 5: To set it down, not put it down like an 1110 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 5: injured horse. 1111 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 2: Guys, just to be yes, yes, humanely, yes, frame it 1112 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 2: and put it on the show. There you go, yes, yes, 1113 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 2: jet Lee, gently set it down. 1114 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 5: Steven wanted to take one tree hill out behind the 1115 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 5: barn and. 1116 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize put it down. What I was saying, Oh, man, 1117 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 2: send it to pasture. Well you want to spend a 1118 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 2: wheel with us, buddy, Okay, yes. 1119 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 3: Most likely too, Let's do this most. 1120 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my gosh, I've never seen this before. 1121 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 3: Watch it's going to be most likely to cry through 1122 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 3: the workday. 1123 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm like me, most Stephen, you read it, most likely 1124 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 2: to binge watch an entire season of a show in 1125 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 2: one day. Rob Buckley easily three kids. Yes, well, because 1126 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 2: you you would have it just on in the background, 1127 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 2: Like you wouldn't sit there and watch a show all day, 1128 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 2: but you like to just have I remember this when 1129 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 2: we were roomors, you would have like VP would always 1130 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 2: be on the background, maybe New Girl, like a great comedy. 1131 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 2: It's just like sometimes the music you have in your house, 1132 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 2: or at least it was when we were living together, 1133 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 2: which I loved. So it's like any you know, you 1134 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 2: kind of pop interview from time to time, but I 1135 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: would I would put you on theirs ass. And maybe 1136 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 2: it's not the true, you know, sitting down and watching 1137 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 2: every minute, but yeah, you're like, if we had to 1138 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 2: go through the log of like all right, how many 1139 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 2: times has this season been watched by the three of us? 1140 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 2: Just just from the loop that you would have on 1141 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 2: a TV, It's like it's got to be. 1142 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 5: Rob Yeah, yes, especially how many years did we live together? 1143 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 5: I was trying to do this math because it started 1144 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 5: on one I poached you from James. You were living 1145 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 5: with James at the beach initially. 1146 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 2: Yes, and then in this final season, which I'm surprised 1147 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 2: we really talk about because like, man, the fun we 1148 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: had like being such nerds video gaming, like just like 1149 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 2: like with candy, like going out, like just having candy 1150 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 2: then like just like wandering the streets like we're like 1151 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 2: it's so funny, Like we would just go out like 1152 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 2: and I honestly would be like a sugar high half 1153 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 2: the time, and I like we were just kind of 1154 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 2: mosier out yeah, and be like you know what we 1155 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 2: need at at two in the morning, Like where is 1156 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 2: there a coffee? Joint that's open because we want to 1157 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 2: like play video games for another like two hours, Like 1158 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 2: let's go to a CVS. It's twenty four hour, get some, 1159 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 2: get some like uh, you know, espresso shots. 1160 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 3: You were getting like energy and choco, talking. 1161 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 2: Like muddy buddies. 1162 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 5: And then we remember our brief kick as being graffiti artists. 1163 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know if you're to go like yeah, 1164 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 2: because that's kind of illegal and illegal, but we don't 1165 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 2: have to admit to anything. 1166 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 5: We just really liked street art for like four weeks yep. 1167 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1168 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 2: And did we maybe target like construction sites that like 1169 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 2: stuff was gonna be painted over? Yes, we we we 1170 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 2: talked about that. We talked we talked. 1171 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 3: About the reponsible vandals. 1172 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. 1173 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 2: We also had a we we would have index cards. 1174 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 2: Of course, we were coming up with brilliant ideas, just 1175 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 2: the most profound ideas the word has the world has 1176 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 2: ever seen. And usually sometime they're just like a picture 1177 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 2: of like a cartoon character or there were an idea, 1178 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 2: we'd write it on an index card and we'd stick 1179 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 2: it to the wall. And we have this giant collage 1180 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 2: of like two hundred index cards on our apartment wall. 1181 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 2: With like some of the most stupid. 1182 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 5: Ideas, that's right, or just if someone said something funny, 1183 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 5: like a funny line, we would write it down. Oh 1184 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 5: my gosh, I remember that well. 1185 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Living Together season nine, what's a special season? 1186 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 2: It was all right, buddy, I love you. Thank you so. 1187 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 5: As well. To hang out with us, dude, it's always 1188 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 5: the most fun. 1189 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. This is this is a treat, and 1190 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 2: you know, such fond memories, as I said, with you guys, 1191 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 2: and I just I look up to you guys so much, 1192 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: and I'm so grateful for the way you guys treated 1193 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 2: me on the show whenever we were out there from 1194 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 2: the beginning of course, so to as a roommate and 1195 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 2: a buddy out there rock like we we had so 1196 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 2: much fun. So I adore you guys, one hundred percent. 1197 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 2: Feelings mutual. Dure you. 1198 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 3: Next episode, guys, season nine, I can't believe it. I 1199 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 3: see that I'm going to get a emotion. Season nine, 1200 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 3: episode three, Love the. 1201 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 5: Way You Lie. Finally a song title that I actually know. 1202 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 2: It took us nine seasons, but we got there. Who's 1203 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 2: the Who's the artist? 1204 01:03:54,640 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 5: Rihanna Oh featuring Rate Born Right, So yeah, it's a 1205 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 5: good one, all. 1206 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. Steven, thanks for joining us, said, 1207 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 2: thank you, guys, Hey, thanks for listening. 1208 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 3: Don't forget to leave us a review. 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