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Speaker 3: do some mock drafts today. We're gonna talk about some
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Speaker 3: also going to do a live mock draft simulation where
Speaker 3: we are the Cowboys war room and we're gonna talk
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Speaker 3: can be assured it'll be a fun show absolutely from
Speaker 3: here on out. Why is that because you're on the
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Speaker 3: Maybe sometimes there's a show after it. All right, let's
Speaker 3: get into some news and notes before we get into
Speaker 3: a little mock draft mania. Patrick, what's been going on?
Speaker 3: Including can I kick it? You can't kick it?
Speaker 1: Okay? Brandon Aubrey, WHOA.
Speaker 2: Aubrey has signed his extension with the Dallas Cowboys. The
Speaker 2: Cowboys started off by placing a second round tender on
Speaker 2: their all Pro, multi time All Pro, first team All
Speaker 2: Pro kicker going into this offseason. The deadline came and went,
Speaker 2: which would have been Friday. As far as other teams
Speaker 2: making an offer that Brandon Aubrey could sign, that did
Speaker 2: not occur. As a reminder, a team would have had
Speaker 2: to be willing to give up a second round pick
Speaker 2: in this year's draft if they were trying to peel
Speaker 2: Brandon Aubrey away.
Speaker 1: No offer was made.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys ended up then agreeing to Brandon Aubrey four years,
Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars with twenty million dollars guaranteed. He's
Speaker 2: officially the highest paid kicker in NFL history. Well deserved
Speaker 2: for the planeol kid getting paid here in Dallas.
Speaker 4: That's no Marjarin right there.
Speaker 2: That's all butter Baity extra butter Baby, that's all butter Baby.
Speaker 2: So kudos to Brandon Aubrey. Credit to the Cowboys for
Speaker 2: getting that done. And now they don't have to go
Speaker 2: into this season worried about a contractuation with a headline player.
Speaker 2: Obviously they still have George Pickens to worry about, but
Speaker 2: another one checked off.
Speaker 3: I think the big thing with Brandon too, is nobody
Speaker 3: really looked around and said, we're worried he's not going
Speaker 3: to be here in the fall. Nobody was really worried
Speaker 3: that was the case because Dallas had the leverage in
Speaker 3: the restricted free agent.
Speaker 4: Signing that they made with the second round tender to.
Speaker 3: Start his career and then the second round tender there.
Speaker 3: I think for Brandon Aubrey, it's better for him. I
Speaker 3: think for the Dallas Cowboys it is better for them.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that they got a deal done. I'm
Speaker 3: glad that I wish it would have happened a little
Speaker 3: earlier and we could have just talked about this in
Speaker 3: February or March. But that's okay. I can stop tweeting
Speaker 3: every time Brandon Aubrey hits a sixty five yard field goal,
Speaker 3: pay the man pay, And instead they did pay the man,
Speaker 3: and he's now the highest paid NFL kicker in history.
Speaker 2: It also works out really quickly from a news and
Speaker 2: note standpoint transactional transaction wise, it works out where he
Speaker 2: is only paid one point five million dollars this coming season,
Speaker 2: which means his hit this year is under four million.
Speaker 2: So when you're talking about trying to get a deal
Speaker 2: done with new free agents that might be coming in,
Speaker 2: keeping in mind, if you extend George Pickens, then you
Speaker 2: actually lessen the cap hit, which is a great thing.
Speaker 2: But depending on if the Cowboys, and we'll talk about
Speaker 2: this during the month, if they can check off the
Speaker 2: boxes or if they fail to check off a box
Speaker 2: or two, they have some more money, more leeway that
Speaker 2: they can go into free agency right after the draft
Speaker 2: and maybe get a get a couple guys, what is
Speaker 2: that like four and a half million, it's about it's
Speaker 2: about four million, four million, about four million.
Speaker 4: I would like to do that.
Speaker 1: That'd be great, sounds good, you know, in theory.
Speaker 3: In theory, Kyle, I.
Speaker 4: Would like to challenge you to one thing.
Speaker 6: Next time you're calling Dallas Cawagan, because we all know
Speaker 6: Kyle will be calling it.
Speaker 4: Cowboy game here.
Speaker 6: At some point, I challenge you, whenever Brendon Aubrey makes
Speaker 6: one of those fifty plus yarders, can you please just
Speaker 6: say I can't believe it's not fotter or something like that.
Speaker 3: I gotta find a way. Yeah, I'm wondering, one if
Speaker 3: that's trademark. Two if there's a uh, if there's a
Speaker 3: way to play off of that, but say something good,
Speaker 3: because if it's if you can't believe it's not better,
Speaker 3: then maybe that's just say it.
Speaker 4: Kyle. You don't need to add theory into just.
Speaker 3: Saying I just think there's gotta be a little bit
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: Man, let me go ahead and just say this.
Speaker 2: Also, while we're talking about the kicker situation before we
Speaker 2: quickly pivot over to it to the mock and everything,
Speaker 2: I'm seeing this on Twitter and I'm not liking this.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 2: I don't care how much you paid your kicker. You
Speaker 2: don't play to kick. Okay, I want to be clear
Speaker 2: on you.
Speaker 3: You play to win.
Speaker 1: You play and win the game.
Speaker 2: Shout out to herm Edwards because some people are saying, oh, well,
Speaker 2: for what we're paying him, he better make seventy yards.
Speaker 2: You better not ask him to kick seventy yarders and
Speaker 2: sixty five yards and sixty yarders. You better play and
Speaker 2: call offensive play calls as if you have the worst
Speaker 2: kicker in the league. Just play it that way. And
Speaker 2: if it so happens that that doesn't work out and
Speaker 2: you end up in field goal range, then guess what,
Speaker 2: you have the best kicker in the league who's now
Speaker 2: on a four year extension. That's gotta feel great. But
Speaker 2: don't go into offensive drives feeling like, oh, well, if
Speaker 2: we get to you know, the opponent's forty yard line,
Speaker 2: then no, no, no.
Speaker 6: It's great for the halftime drill, it's great for maybe
Speaker 6: a two minut or, but don't rely on that.
Speaker 3: You feel like they did that too much last year.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, especially with how answer fast enough. Yes, glad
Speaker 1: you did it.
Speaker 6: Cure with a healthy Dak and you expect the offense
Speaker 6: to do what it does, and obviously you're gonna have
Speaker 6: a lot more consistency this year with the offensive line.
Speaker 4: Hopefully things are better there. You should not play to
Speaker 4: kick the.
Speaker 2: Ball unless it's a game winning drive situation and you're
Speaker 2: down by two points, then that it would be the
Speaker 2: only exception. I want you to be aggressive depending on
Speaker 2: where the ball starts off at and kind of matriculate.
Speaker 1: It down the field.
Speaker 2: However, outside of that situation, which even then I'd say,
Speaker 2: take a shot right downfield, take one shot, but over
Speaker 2: the course of the game, do not allow Brandon Aubrey
Speaker 2: to be your safety net. I don't care how much
Speaker 2: you're paying Hill. You pay for quality insurance, right am.
Speaker 2: I gonna say the names because they're not sponsors, but
Speaker 2: you pay for quality insurance. Sometimes it costs more because
Speaker 2: you know, you want to know that if you need it,
Speaker 2: it's there and you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But you don't go driving your car trying to swerve
Speaker 2: into the barricades because you.
Speaker 1: Have great insurance. Like, just think about that for a second. Folk, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Don't go drive you know, I'm gonna leave it. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go looking for an accident because my insurance is excellent.
Speaker 2: Like a good kicker, Aubrey is there, m M. So
Speaker 2: I'm just saying for those that are saying, well, for
Speaker 2: what we're paying him, No, that's not how that works
Speaker 2: with a kicker. Kicker is insurance and you have expensive
Speaker 2: insurance and that should make you feel great, But don't
Speaker 2: go looking for an accident so that you can file acclaim.
Speaker 3: I like that mic drop from Patrick Knows who walked.
Speaker 3: What else we got on news and notes?
Speaker 1: What else do we have on news and those about it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That that's the big one, and that's that's it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you heard from from Steven.
Speaker 1: We did hear from.
Speaker 2: Steven last week, and Stephen had a couple of interesting
Speaker 2: points and I'm going to bring this up here because
Speaker 2: this goes into the mock as well. Stephen Jones talked
Speaker 2: about one thing that really stuck out. Quick update, there's
Speaker 2: no change on George Pickens situation. Cowboys and George Pickens
Speaker 2: continue to try to work that out. There's been no
Speaker 2: movement that's reportable right now. But he did say something
Speaker 2: Stephen Jones did to one on five three the fan
Speaker 2: about red shirts that stuck out to me, and so
Speaker 2: I decided to write an article about that on Dallas
Speaker 2: Cowboys dot com co. And here is what he said,
Speaker 2: which backs up what Jerry said about the Cowboys being
Speaker 2: a little bit at verse strongly at verse two red
Speaker 2: shirt players or potential red shirt players, Let's see what
Speaker 2: wanted to see them. This is the better quote. This
Speaker 2: is Stephen Jones to one to five to three the fan.
Speaker 2: When it comes down to a prospects potential availability, he said, quote,
Speaker 2: what's his status for mini camp, what's his status for
Speaker 2: training camp? And then ultimately will he be able to
Speaker 2: play a part of the season or none of the season?
Speaker 2: All of those levels that we put into it and
Speaker 2: decide where we come down on that particular player. In quote,
Speaker 2: they lets you know that the Cowboys, while they're not
Speaker 2: completely out on the potential red shirt, they are likely
Speaker 2: out on any player that's going to miss a large
Speaker 2: chunk of time this season. And some news broke yesterday
Speaker 2: on McCoy out of Tennessee that it seems like for
Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, that's going to put him on
Speaker 2: the outs with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But we can talk about that as we get into
Speaker 1: the mad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm curious if there's another situation similar to Revel
Speaker 6: last year where he was coming in and it was
Speaker 6: kind of expected, at least from his people right that
Speaker 6: he would be expected for Week one. Maybe Week two
Speaker 6: and then that was not to be the case. Is
Speaker 6: that something that you see the Cowboys reaching for in
Speaker 6: this draft.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing with Jemi McCoy, he'll be healthy going
Speaker 3: into training camp, maybe even as early as Mini camp.
Speaker 3: He's eighteen months removed from or fourteen fifteen months removed
Speaker 3: from the ACL injury, and he's running around just fine.
Speaker 3: I think he'd be cleared by the time organized team
Speaker 3: activities started happening. Now the question has become and started
Speaker 3: to shift. Teams aren't as worried about the past injury
Speaker 3: as they are about the past injury paired with a
Speaker 3: possible degenerative knee situation that popped up at the NFL Combine.
Speaker 3: So it's not just one thing, it's multiple things that
Speaker 3: teams are flagging him for. I think his tape speaks
Speaker 3: for itself. In twenty twenty four, I still think he's
Speaker 3: a tremendous football player. I don't think he's going to
Speaker 3: be a fit here in Dallas. If Dallas had a
Speaker 3: fully healthy cornerback room, then they maybe could take a
Speaker 3: chance on it. But they're not in a situation now
Speaker 3: where you have rebel coming off of a major injury,
Speaker 3: you have Deron Bland, coming off of a major injury
Speaker 3: and surgery this offseason, coming off of Kayln Carson finally
Speaker 3: being healthy at the end of the year and getting
Speaker 3: his first fully healthy offseason hopefully knock On Wood in
Speaker 3: the middle of this year. You don't have the opportunity
Speaker 3: or the flexibility to take a possible medical red flag
Speaker 3: guy and put him in a room full of possible
Speaker 3: medical red flag guys. They want a clean bill of
Speaker 3: slate if they are indeed going to draft a cornerback.
Speaker 3: So in that case, that puts mansorta lane on the
Speaker 3: table at twelve. I don't think he makes it past twelve.
Speaker 3: If he's there, it depends on who else is there.
Speaker 3: Of course, we'll talk about it in the MA, But
Speaker 3: I also think Colton Hood is in the conversation too.
Speaker 3: The other Tennessee corner they've been very high on him.
Speaker 3: I think they have him probably right at the back
Speaker 3: half of those names that are first round consideration, maybe
Speaker 3: early second round, which if you're at twelve or twenty,
Speaker 3: you may have to dip into your second round grades
Speaker 3: depending on how many first round grades you have at
Speaker 3: the defensive position. So all of that to be said,
Speaker 3: I still think there's a chance he could be on
Speaker 3: this team and they draft a corner I just don't
Speaker 3: think it's going to be Jermal McCoy.
Speaker 2: They most certainly would prefer And if you look at
Speaker 2: how Stephen Jones kind of parsed his point, he said
Speaker 2: that also in an interview check out the article. He
Speaker 2: also said that this is not the only determinant in
Speaker 2: the discussion on a prospect, right, so they're also going
Speaker 2: to look at all the other things as well. So
Speaker 2: to Coyle's point, it's very possible that draw McCoy could
Speaker 2: be a Dallas Cowboy, particularly if the Cowboys feel like
Speaker 2: he wull be ready for training camp and if not,
Speaker 2: most certainly at least ready for the start of the season.
Speaker 2: If they feel that's going to be the case, then
Speaker 2: that puts him in play. But when you're talking about
Speaker 2: these I.
Speaker 3: Don't think it puts him in play. Even if he
Speaker 3: is healthy and all of that is a space, I
Speaker 3: don't think he's in play at all.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 3: Maybe if he's there at ninety two, which like that's
Speaker 3: not possible. I don't think that's possible. If he's there
Speaker 3: at ninety two, they may entertain it. I don't think
Speaker 3: he's in play really at all.
Speaker 2: So let's just keep the Red Shirt thought process in
Speaker 2: mind as as Jerry Yeoman's over here puts us to
Speaker 2: put the screws to us to see what we what
Speaker 2: we decide in this month.
Speaker 3: All right, So here we go. We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 3: run a mock draft simulation on the other side of
Speaker 3: the break or actually, you know what, I want to
Speaker 3: take a look at your first Okay, I want to
Speaker 3: go through that. When we come back, we're gonna take
Speaker 3: a look at some of the other mock drafts first,
Speaker 3: go through what the halls have been and which ones
Speaker 3: we liked. Then we'll run the live mock draft at
Speaker 3: the end of the show, and we'll run through the
Speaker 3: first round for with the Dallas Cowboys. More talking Cowboys
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Speaker 3: count b Yeah, let's take a look at the science.
Speaker 1: Yeah, science Lab.
Speaker 3: Patrick Walker's seven Around Cowboys mock Draft is available now
Speaker 3: on Dallas Cowboys dot com dot com. I did see
Speaker 3: yesterday it was trending for a hot second.
Speaker 2: It was shouts out to Cowboys fans who love and
Speaker 2: follow the science. Everyone knows that I do an annual
Speaker 2: mock draft. I only do one, and I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people have wondered why I only do one. Honestly,
Speaker 2: it's a personal challenge to myself. It's not because you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not looking down on those who have fun with
Speaker 2: their mocks. I know the mock draftnicks are out there
Speaker 2: and it's a fun thing to do over the course
Speaker 2: of draft season. But I always want to see how
Speaker 2: accurate I can be based on their thought process, all
Speaker 2: the information that I get over the week's preceding the draft,
Speaker 2: if I can get one or two hits, I'm always
Speaker 2: curious as to that.
Speaker 1: So that's my mindset. I want to see if I
Speaker 1: can do it in one go.
Speaker 2: So that dropped yesterday on the dot com and got
Speaker 2: a little got a little spicy is particularly on day one.
Speaker 2: All right, Day one led to some spice one and yeah,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the science. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So at twelve, who did you go with?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna spoil it, but you still need to check
Speaker 2: out the article because I give measurables. I give, yeah,
Speaker 2: some scouting reports from these guys. I get the charts, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the charts. I give the context as to why this
Speaker 2: guy you're not that guy. Perfect example, at twelfth overall
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys were on the clock and Patrick Noci
Speaker 2: Walker selected cornerback out of lsu Monsur Delane. Whoa you
Speaker 2: know not I miss all American in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: For me, he is going to be the future at
Speaker 2: cornerback for the Cowboys. Now again, if you read the
Speaker 2: context this I'm not going to spoil, you will see
Speaker 2: why I went with Monsieur Delaine.
Speaker 1: Some things happened on the.
Speaker 2: Board and I kind of got wiped out in the
Speaker 2: spot that I didn't want to get wiped out in.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Monsieur delayed.
Speaker 2: He's headed to the Dallas Cowboys and my mock draft
Speaker 2: as twelfth overall pick.
Speaker 1: As the twentieth overall pick, I chose No. One. Did
Speaker 1: you like to know why I chose No.
Speaker 3: Four fifth pick?
Speaker 1: I bailed?
Speaker 2: Ah bailed because again read the context as to why.
Speaker 2: But based on how the board was falling, I looked
Speaker 2: at the linebackers, knowing that I needed a linebacker. I
Speaker 2: had just taken a corner back. Edge was getting wiped out,
Speaker 2: and I said to myself, you know what, self, there's
Speaker 2: depth in this edge class, but I need to get
Speaker 2: me a linebacker. But I'm not comfortable going at twenty
Speaker 2: with a linebacker that I want. Sold bail out, get
Speaker 2: another pick that I'll talk about in the moment.
Speaker 1: CJ.
Speaker 2: Allen, linebacker out of Georgia, is the second pick of
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys, but after a trade with the Houston Texans,
Speaker 2: a trade trade that sent the Cowboys pick twenty eighth overall,
Speaker 2: Houston gets the twentieth overall pick, and based on the
Speaker 2: draft value chart, slight overpaid by Houston, but they came
Speaker 2: up to get who they wanted. I got the fifty
Speaker 2: ninth overall pick to Dallas, which is a second round pick.
Speaker 1: So I got CJ.
Speaker 2: Allen as the linebacker at twenty eighth overall, which is
Speaker 2: a glorified second round pick, as we all know. And
Speaker 2: then to make sure for those that have an asterisk
Speaker 2: next to C. J.
Speaker 1: Allen. For this reason or whatever reason, I said to myself,
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of the double dip. I like two scoops.
Speaker 1: I like two scoops.
Speaker 2: So when I was on the clock at the fifty
Speaker 2: ninth overall pick, I looked at the edge and I said,
Speaker 2: I could hold off just a little bit longer, third
Speaker 2: pick for the Cowboys fifty ninth overall. After executing the
Speaker 2: trade with the Houston Texas linebacker out of the University
Speaker 2: of Texas, I could hear Tommy smiling. Anthony Hill Junior,
Speaker 2: who's a local kid obviously here for Dallas Day. Visit
Speaker 2: two time.
Speaker 3: First team All SEC Byn Broduct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big twelve D Defensive Player of the Year and
Speaker 2: his accolades go on and on and it goes from there. Now,
Speaker 2: this is where I addressed the secondary I feel like cowboy.
Speaker 2: I like what they did in free agency at safety,
Speaker 2: but only one of those acquisitions Jayalen Thompson was speaking
Speaker 2: of is a long term solution.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: PJ.
Speaker 2: Lock is on a one year deal. Milie Cooker is
Speaker 2: in a contract, plus he'll be thirty two by the
Speaker 2: end of the season. Got to figure out some things there.
Speaker 2: I went with fourth overall, fourth pick, ninety second overall,
Speaker 2: Round three safety out of Penn State, Zaqi Wheatley.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of that guy.
Speaker 2: Fiesta Bowl Defensive Player of Defensive MVP in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: I think he brings something to the table that will
Speaker 2: thrive under Christian Parker and some of these new coaches
Speaker 2: that are coming in to coach the secondary. So I
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be a good thing. Now here's why
Speaker 2: I really get excited. I was already excited, and Josh
Speaker 2: knows what because we were talking about this.
Speaker 1: He was, Yes, this is one for me. I feel
Speaker 1: like this might be my draft steal.
Speaker 2: Day three starts Round four, one hundred and twelfth overall
Speaker 2: at the edge, outside linebacker out of Wisconsin one Mason Rager.
Speaker 1: Rager Riger that feels so good to get him at
Speaker 1: one twelfth.
Speaker 2: Overall, I saw a couple of people who responded and
Speaker 2: thanks so much for engaging with me on this on Twitter.
Speaker 2: It's not that I need you, because I don't need
Speaker 2: you to agree, but I am here for the healthy discuss.
Speaker 2: And a couple of people felt like Mason was a
Speaker 2: little bit of a reach at one twelve, but based
Speaker 2: on how things were falling, there was already an early
Speaker 2: run on edge.
Speaker 1: It started to kind of slim out.
Speaker 2: I said to myself, you know what, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to wait until the fifth round to get Mason. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to hope he's there. I'm going to take
Speaker 2: him at one twelve and be done with it. East
Speaker 2: West Shrine Bowl defensive MVP. He's shining in that absolutely,
Speaker 2: which also made me smile. When I saw he was
Speaker 2: still available one twelve, I said, I want to pick him.
Speaker 2: He was the guy I wrote the East West Shrine
Speaker 2: Bowl standouts. He was the guy, the top guy I
Speaker 2: say coming out of that that I wanted the Cowboys
Speaker 2: to look at.
Speaker 1: He was available. I took him.
Speaker 2: Now, I want to have some fun because that was
Speaker 2: all defense, right, yep? But what about offense?
Speaker 1: And what pick is this.
Speaker 2: This is the sixth pick for the Cowboys, one fifty
Speaker 2: second overall in the fifth round. Okay, wide receiver out
Speaker 2: of Oregon, one turbo charged Malik Benson. Malik Benson has
Speaker 2: a jet pack on his back. When you look at
Speaker 2: the wide receiver position for the Dallas Cowboys, ceedee lamb
Speaker 2: check George Pickens franchise tag or deal check he's in
Speaker 2: the building. Twenty twenty six, Ryan Flinoy, you know how
Speaker 2: I feel about flow Okay.
Speaker 4: Check check solidified number three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but once you get past WR three, what do
Speaker 1: you got exactly?
Speaker 2: Paul Trey John Holden, a former Oregon wide receiver potential. Yes,
Speaker 2: but you need more, bottom line, you need more. They're
Speaker 2: not using Kafante Turpin like you would like, and that
Speaker 2: could be due to his size and or the fact
Speaker 2: that he's your special team's got. He's your returner, hands, workload,
Speaker 2: things like that. Malik Benson, he's a burner, he got,
Speaker 2: he has hands and because he out of Oregon, he's
Speaker 2: a junior Adams prospect, right, so there's a connection there
Speaker 2: and they've already shown interest in him. Seventh pick, round five,
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy seventh overall. Let's stick to offense.
Speaker 2: You need depth, a wide receiver. You know what you
Speaker 2: also need?
Speaker 1: You need an offensive tackle.
Speaker 8: HM.
Speaker 1: We have questions about the left tackle. We've talked about it.
Speaker 2: Ad nauseum offensive tackle out of Boise State, fifth round
Speaker 2: one to seventy seventh overall. Cage Casey two time first
Speaker 2: team All Mountain West last year and the year prior,
Speaker 2: second team All Mountain West in twenty twenty three. If
Speaker 2: you haven't watched Cage Casey play football, I encourage you
Speaker 2: to do so. Once he drops anchor, you're not moving him.
Speaker 2: His anchor is exceptional, his hands are exceptional. There are
Speaker 2: some things that he would that I would like to
Speaker 2: see him improve a pun If you want to see
Speaker 2: who those things are, go check out the mock draft.
Speaker 2: I put all of that in the scouting report and
Speaker 2: things like that. You know Tyler Guiden has availability issues.
Speaker 2: You know Nate Thomas is coming up. However, you also
Speaker 2: lost him to injury. You want to keep Tyler Smith
Speaker 2: at left guard, you need to have you need to
Speaker 2: throw something else, a talented prospect with a high ceiling
Speaker 2: that left tackle just in case.
Speaker 1: I think Cage Casey is that and.
Speaker 6: If you can trust anybody to pick a offensive lineman,
Speaker 6: especially one that could be a depth piece for you
Speaker 6: in the fifth round, that.
Speaker 4: Could possibly, like I said, do things for you. That's Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That is Cowboys.
Speaker 2: And then of course I know it's not as much
Speaker 2: as it used to be, but they have the pipeline
Speaker 2: to Boise State.
Speaker 1: We know how that works.
Speaker 3: I would argue Dallas has not had a ton of
Speaker 3: success in the later rounds drafting offensive linemen. Think about
Speaker 3: like Josh Ball, Matt Will, lets go some of these
Speaker 3: guys that they had spent late round draft picks. Now,
Speaker 3: if they're drafting in the first round, doing pretty good
Speaker 3: with that, right, they're drafting in the middle like day three,
Speaker 3: like top one hundred, Cooper BB, you're doing pretty decent there,
Speaker 3: and then undrafted guys they've had a ton of success
Speaker 3: with dj Bass brock Hoffman. I mean, you kind of
Speaker 3: named some of the other guys that have been on
Speaker 3: that list. But when's the last time they've picked a
Speaker 3: Day three offensive lineman and it's worked out just to
Speaker 3: play Davil's adge. No, Yeah, I don't know if they have.
Speaker 6: I just think the evaluation of offensive lineman if they
Speaker 6: feel strong enough to get a guy at, you know,
Speaker 6: in the fifth round, I would argue that they probably
Speaker 6: have a little more of a scope on what that
Speaker 6: person is able to contribute.
Speaker 4: I like the pick here. I really don't hate it.
Speaker 3: I do feel like and I think you have to
Speaker 3: take an offensive lineman at some point right, and they
Speaker 3: usually do.
Speaker 1: I think this is a sweet spot based upon your
Speaker 1: defensive needs. Sure, absolute sweet spot.
Speaker 4: And then when you look at ones, I got a problem. Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2: And then when you look at Cage Casey and you're
Speaker 2: looking at what he can provide to you. One of
Speaker 2: the things with Cageksey with over twenty seven hundred snaps
Speaker 2: for Boise State in twenty twenty four, he had he
Speaker 2: allowed only six pressures and zero sex. And he's the
Speaker 2: definition of balance as far as run blocking and pass blocking.
Speaker 1: Eighty point I think one.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking at the exact thing, but like eighty
Speaker 2: point one grade as a run blocker, eighty point four
Speaker 2: as a pass blocker. He's the definition of like consistency.
Speaker 2: He can do it both. He has the hands, he
Speaker 2: has the anchor. You again, if you want to know
Speaker 2: what I want him to improve upon, then you got
Speaker 2: to read the article.
Speaker 3: I want to add a little science to your science.
Speaker 1: Come on with uh.
Speaker 3: Since twenty twenty, they've taken at least one offensive lineman
Speaker 3: in every day, every single one of them. Only one
Speaker 3: of them has played as a starter the majority of
Speaker 3: a season, and that was Tyler biadash back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: That was the only he was a fourth round pick.
Speaker 3: Since then, they drafted Josh Ball in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: Matt will Let's Go in twenty twenty two, Awesome Richards
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, who I would heads, Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: been serviceable, hasn't been a starter, but serviceable. Nathan Thomas
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, and then a Johnny Cornelius in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6: I think those three have yet to be seen though,
Speaker 6: as far as like playing out exactly what they're capable
Speaker 6: of at this point.
Speaker 3: Still, I mean, I'm still comfortable with that and they're
Speaker 3: still around, so I don't think it's a failure.
Speaker 4: We're talking death pieces too.
Speaker 1: On top of now, we're in the fifth round.
Speaker 4: Yea, and I think place in Tyler Guiton with a
Speaker 4: front pick.
Speaker 2: When you get I got like cage Casey with his
Speaker 2: current skill set in the potential that he can be
Speaker 2: for you, and you're getting that at the fifth round
Speaker 2: without sacrifice. Seeing more premium picks at positions of need.
Speaker 2: I think that's a sweet spot to kind of peak there.
Speaker 2: And that's why why I did eighth pick for the
Speaker 2: Cowboys trade another trade.
Speaker 1: Got a trade?
Speaker 3: You traded twice in one draft? Does that allowed?
Speaker 1: Hey? I did it. It's done. The Cowboys had the
Speaker 1: one hundred and eightieth overall pick.
Speaker 2: I sent that to the Detroit Lions, so that gave
Speaker 2: the Lions a back to back pick at the back
Speaker 2: end of the fifth round, and in exchange, I took
Speaker 2: both of their sixth rounders. I took their two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifth overall and two hundred and thirteenth overall Cowboys.
Speaker 2: As a reminder, they had multiple fifth rounders. I think
Speaker 2: three three fifth rounders, three fifth rounders and no sixth rounders.
Speaker 2: Now we're talking depth. Shouts out to isay, I did
Speaker 2: this for you as well. Cowboys. As much as they
Speaker 2: need marquee players, they need talented bodies as well. So
Speaker 2: these are value. This draft is this trade down on
Speaker 2: Day three is four value? Okay, to get more guys.
Speaker 2: Now that means with the two hundred and fifth overall
Speaker 2: pick from the Lions in that trade, I took cornerback
Speaker 2: out of Alabama, Domani Jackson, Cowboys. You know last time
Speaker 2: they took a cornerback out of Alabama it worked out well,
Speaker 2: at least for the first four years before the injury happened.
Speaker 1: Now, be not mistaken.
Speaker 2: I am in no way shape or for him saying
Speaker 2: Demani Jackson is the Trayvon dis prospect.
Speaker 1: He is not.
Speaker 2: However, he has the athleticism, he has the physicality. I
Speaker 2: love him and press man. He can operate in zone,
Speaker 2: but again I'd love him in press man. All he
Speaker 2: needs to do is be a little be more cognizant
Speaker 2: of his hands because at the NFL level, flags will fly.
Speaker 2: But he loves playing at the line of scrimmage. He
Speaker 2: loves disrupting guys off of their breaks at the top
Speaker 2: of their routes. He's not afraid to get in there.
Speaker 2: He's not a zone primary guy, but he can play zone.
Speaker 2: My knock to him, and I'll go ahead and say
Speaker 2: this is for his athleticism, for his ability to stay
Speaker 2: sticky with guys, for his ability to be at the
Speaker 2: point of attack with the receiver.
Speaker 1: All of those things are true. I expect more takeaways.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you're wondering, well, no Sea, will you know,
Speaker 2: if he's all these great things, why didn't you get
Speaker 2: him into two hundred and fifth overall? I expect more
Speaker 2: takeaways for the level of disruption that he provides. He
Speaker 2: has been in multiple positions multiple times on film for Bama,
Speaker 2: and you know, I know all about Bama God Dogs.
Speaker 2: Not to only have come away with two interceptions in
Speaker 2: his career, that's unacceptable.
Speaker 1: But I'm confident you get him.
Speaker 2: With Christian Parker and some of these other secondary coaches,
Speaker 2: you can coach takeaways into a guy. Al Harris came
Speaker 2: here and did it for multiple seasons. Okay, the other
Speaker 2: things not so much. Now with the two hundred and
Speaker 2: thirteenth overall pick that I acquired in that trade from Houston, tight.
Speaker 1: End, you and I were talking about this sneaky need.
Speaker 4: This is sneaky need. I'm glad that you said this.
Speaker 6: I'm glad that you brought this up because it's something
Speaker 6: that we hasn't We've addressed a couple of times on
Speaker 6: this show. I haven't really seen it in many other
Speaker 6: shows in that I feel like there's an opportunity there
Speaker 6: to elevate that room. I don't think that you're getting
Speaker 6: enough from Luke scoon Maker as far as playmakeability, you know,
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't think that's quite there. Brevin van
Speaker 6: Ford has shown glimpses of it. I would love to
Speaker 6: see him get more of the the number two snaps
Speaker 6: or number one if I'm being completely honest, But I
Speaker 6: think you need a playmaker there. I don't know exactly
Speaker 6: about Bentley's skill set or anything like that, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: Even say the name.
Speaker 4: Oh my bad.
Speaker 1: You go ahead, go ahead, now, I'm just talking week.
Speaker 2: It's Dallan Bentley tight end out of Utah, two hundred
Speaker 2: and thirteenth overall in round six.
Speaker 1: Gohamton ship point, Joss, this's great point.
Speaker 6: No, I just really think that there's something to be
Speaker 6: said about a playmaking tight end that you don't necessarily have.
Speaker 6: I mean, you have Jake Ferguson. He's the security blanket.
Speaker 6: He's very much like we've seen from Jason Witten, more
Speaker 6: athletic obviously than Jason Witten was. I just mean I
Speaker 6: would like to see somebody that has skill that is
Speaker 6: able to get downfield, a true vertical guy at tight end.
Speaker 6: The Dallas Coubys have not had as long as I've
Speaker 6: been watching.
Speaker 2: Now, I will say this the only knock that I have,
Speaker 2: the biggest knock that I have that is twenty six
Speaker 2: years old. Well, there's that's a knock. But the other
Speaker 2: knock is that I didn't sound that he'd be here
Speaker 2: ten years. I didn't say he'd be your te one.
Speaker 2: I'll talk about the knock in a second, but that's
Speaker 2: a great point. So let me dove tail off of that.
Speaker 2: You have Jake Ferguson, two time All Pro, had a
Speaker 2: much better season, etc. So let's just say he's your
Speaker 2: te one. He's on a new contract. Who former second
Speaker 2: round pick Lou Schoolmaker's going into a contract year. Don't
Speaker 2: know what his future looks like. May Or may not
Speaker 2: be with the Dallas cobun You don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: May Or may not be with the Dallas Cowboys in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. That's up to him in the front office.
Speaker 2: How he performs in his contract year, we'll see. Berevon
Speaker 2: span Ford is making a strong push for Te two. Okay,
Speaker 2: Princeton fan is back but we know what Princeton fan
Speaker 2: is at this point. So if you play the hypothetical
Speaker 2: of Schoon not being here for whatever reason in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty seven, and that gives you Jake and Brevin span Ford,
Speaker 2: who's your te three. I'm looking at that when I
Speaker 2: look at a guy like Bentley, who, by the way,
Speaker 2: reminds me of a more He's a more athletic Jason Whitten.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean that casually. I don't mean he's
Speaker 2: Jason Whitten. What I mean is Jason Witten doesn't drop passes.
Speaker 2: Dallan Bentley doesn't drop passes.
Speaker 3: Right, zero drops in seventy six targets.
Speaker 2: Zero road drops, Dallan bent Jason and Witting. He is
Speaker 2: the definitive security blanket from zero to about fifteen yards,
Speaker 2: that's Dylan Bentley.
Speaker 1: He doesn't stretch the field. That's the biggest knock. So
Speaker 1: he's not a guy that's.
Speaker 3: Going he's a second Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fair enough.
Speaker 2: That's a good comp although I would say Jake on
Speaker 2: your roster in your system, Yes, that's what he would
Speaker 2: that's fair.
Speaker 3: And then Brevin's kind of your take the top off type.
Speaker 4: Of the love of God, let him do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I wanted, what I wanted to see in
Speaker 1: a sixth rounder.
Speaker 4: Let him.
Speaker 2: Dylan Bentley shorthanded to say the least zero drops. Excellent
Speaker 2: inline blocker, run pass and run protection right. Also a
Speaker 2: very willing and capable pass pro guy. Right, and he
Speaker 2: has the athleticism to make a guy miss here or there.
Speaker 2: I love the thought process of in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: If Schoolmaker's not here, Jake Ferguson Brevin span Ford and
Speaker 2: then Dalan Bentley pushing Brevin span forward to make sure
Speaker 2: that he achieves what he needs to in that.
Speaker 1: Tight end the room. So there you go. Final pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a hustle. Yeah, final pick. I went
Speaker 2: with a freak because you know, a freaky kind.
Speaker 3: Of got traits guy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Day three trade, Oh trank, God, I did not want
Speaker 2: to risk this guy to undrafted free agency. Final pick
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighteenth overall round seven, wide receiver out
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati one Jeff Caldwell. Please go look at his miserables,
Speaker 2: and that includes the fact that he runs a four
Speaker 2: to three one forty and that's just one thing that
Speaker 2: puts him in the ninety fifth or higher percentile. He's
Speaker 2: in the ninety fifth or higher in height broad jump
Speaker 2: vertical jump out forty yards. Look at that thing, man,
Speaker 2: it's like it's like a scene from Spider Man Brandon,
Speaker 2: like enter the Spider Verse. That's a web that I
Speaker 2: can get with. You understand this is much like Malie Benson.
Speaker 2: If you notice, both of the wide receivers I chose
Speaker 2: are burners who can take the top off of defense,
Speaker 2: but are also not as small, not small like a
Speaker 2: Cavante turpin. They have size, they have catch radius. Could
Speaker 2: they be better underneath, yes, but you have three guys
Speaker 2: who are excellent underneath who can shehad tackles who can
Speaker 2: make guys miss. What I need is somebody when they're
Speaker 2: on the field, if I say go, nobody can run
Speaker 2: with them. So Jeff Caldwell, Malik Benson, those are going
Speaker 2: to be the wide receiver. So Jeff Caldwell finishes out
Speaker 2: my draft. Cowboys finished on my mock draft with ten
Speaker 2: total picks, including two of the sixth They got a
Speaker 2: second round pick out of it. Double dip that linebacker
Speaker 2: with C. J. Allen and Anthony Hill junior year I
Speaker 2: blanked out and then of course my sword de laye,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Dallas at number twelve.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna start with the order that goes one through eleven.
Speaker 3: The Raiders take Fernanda Mendoza. The Jets take Rvel Reese,
Speaker 3: The Cardinals take David Bailey, the Titans take Jeremiah Love,
Speaker 3: the Giants take Caleb Downs, the Browns take Francis Malanoa.
Speaker 3: The Commanders take Sonny Styles. The Saints take Carnell Tate,
Speaker 3: the wide receiver. Chiefs stay put. They did not trade
Speaker 3: up to three, and they did not trade back to Dallas.
Speaker 3: Delanne is gone, Monsorta Laane Corner out of LSU. The
Speaker 3: Bengals at ten take Jordan Tyson, wide receiver out of
Speaker 3: Arizona State, who recently there's a little bit of smoke
Speaker 3: that Dallas could be interested in a wipeout scenario. Well,
Speaker 3: this is the ultimate wipeout scenario. He's gone. And then
Speaker 3: the Dolphins at eleven take Spencer Fano, the offensive tackle,
Speaker 3: out of Utah. So, just to recap Mendoza, Reese, Bailey,
Speaker 3: Love Downs, malanoa Styles, Tate, Delaane, Tyson Fano off the
Speaker 3: board for Dallas, Babe, you're going.
Speaker 6: With Ruben be I've said that since Draft coverag started
Speaker 6: on Dallas cowboy dot com. I like his name, No,
Speaker 6: I like the the player that you'd be getting for him.
Speaker 6: Obviously you need help at the edge position. We've talked
Speaker 6: about it at nauseum. The fact that Delane is off
Speaker 6: the board, to me, is a clear indication I would
Speaker 6: I was surprised. I would have been surprised if he
Speaker 6: had made it twelve before the news broke about his
Speaker 6: off the field things.
Speaker 4: The fact that he's there at twelve is exciting to me.
Speaker 4: I feel great. I'm energized. Give me Ruben Bain.
Speaker 1: Let me throw it.
Speaker 4: Let's say you, Jerry Kyle.
Speaker 3: Let me throw wrench into this real quickly. This is
Speaker 3: as Kyle now, Jerry, Okay, let's say they don't have
Speaker 3: a first round grade on Ruben Bang. Let's say they
Speaker 3: have let's say a second on it. Let's just just
Speaker 3: throw hypothetical out of there. Yeah, I'm not reporting anything.
Speaker 3: This is just hypothetical. Who would be in the mix
Speaker 3: outside of bang. If it's let's say all of their
Speaker 3: first round grades on defense are gone, right, they're wiped
Speaker 3: out defensively on defense or in their first round grades, right,
Speaker 3: who would be at the top of the second round
Speaker 3: for you?
Speaker 4: Bane would be one, Bane would be one. Absolutely, Patrick,
Speaker 4: feel free to.
Speaker 2: I'm also kind of letting you because I took most
Speaker 2: of the second segment with my monk.
Speaker 3: So y'all cook, that's fair.
Speaker 4: How highly do we think they feel about Rodriguez or
Speaker 4: Hill Junior?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 1: I have a question, run down, run down those names again.
Speaker 3: Mendoza, Reese, Bailey, Love Downs, malanoa Styles, Tate, Delaane, Tyson, Fano.
Speaker 1: Keldrick Foulk.
Speaker 2: Okay, if everythink he's in that Mexican if if because
Speaker 2: my first choice is Ruby Bain, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be clear. I'm right there with Josh's Ruben Bain. I'm
Speaker 2: running that card in I'm not thinking about it. I'm
Speaker 2: doing backflips while I'm on the way. They will not
Speaker 2: right now because I don't have one leg, But in
Speaker 2: my mind, I'm doing backflips.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But in Kyle's scenario of if, for whatever reason, the
Speaker 2: news that came out has the Cowboys on him as
Speaker 2: a first rounder. We've been baying, I meaning they have
Speaker 2: him as an early second rounder, and now we're on
Speaker 2: the clock at twelve.
Speaker 1: It's kill Drew fault.
Speaker 6: Okay, McCoy we said was not in the Cowboys perview
Speaker 6: because of the injury.
Speaker 3: Right, I would take him out of that equation here,
Speaker 3: I would put Colton Hood in the equation. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think I.
Speaker 4: Would feel more comfortable at twenty for Hood. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not at twol.
Speaker 6: That's what That's why I'm asking. Do we know they're
Speaker 6: feeling on their Hill Junior Hill Junior?
Speaker 3: They're not high on Hill, I think I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't think Hill would be an option even at ninety two.
Speaker 3: What about Yeah, I really don't think they're high on.
Speaker 4: What about Rodriguez? Jacob Rodriguez.
Speaker 3: I think they're high on him. I don't know if
Speaker 3: they're twelve high. I'm seeing his face behind you on
Speaker 3: that screen two. It's kind of funny. The mustache, that mustaches,
Speaker 3: it's jarring.
Speaker 4: That's a premonition the yeah, maybe maybe so.
Speaker 3: I think he's their number two linebacker behind Styleles. I
Speaker 3: think it's Styles than Rodriguez and there there's a gap between.
Speaker 3: But I think he's their number two guy. So if
Speaker 3: they're at twenty and they get wiped out again, and
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens after we make this pick, I
Speaker 3: think he could be in play.
Speaker 4: Let me, I want to take the safe bet to me.
Speaker 4: It's Reuben Bain Kyle. The card is in for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm outside of Kyle, but he's got short arms.
Speaker 3: Now now I'm back to being Jared.
Speaker 4: I don't give a two man. Why that's what I
Speaker 4: would tell Jo.
Speaker 3: Okay, trust me, Okay, I want you to defend the
Speaker 3: short arms. Why does that not bother you? Look at them?
Speaker 6: Okay, I mean, look look at his production on the
Speaker 6: field in Miami. Come on, man, look at Okay.
Speaker 4: That that is all I did.
Speaker 3: Just watch tape in the production doesn't shows short arms.
Speaker 3: And you're okay with that.
Speaker 4: I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3: Okay, you feel the same, Patrick.
Speaker 2: I'm so not as concerned about the whole short arm
Speaker 2: things as most others because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: I think that you know a whole.
Speaker 6: Size short arms a Tyrannosaurus Rex dude, and that's who you.
Speaker 2: Need back buddy and ruby, Bain overcomes any kind of
Speaker 2: shortcoming that might exist with his his arm length, with
Speaker 2: every other attribute that he has in his body. So yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not if I were not to if I were
Speaker 2: to not go with Baine at twelve, which I would,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't because of the short arms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's not gonna That's not a deal breaker
Speaker 1: for me for him.
Speaker 6: If anything, it might be a character thing. And I
Speaker 6: don't know how Shody feels about that.
Speaker 3: About the the car, Yeah, I mean, and I don't
Speaker 3: think they're worried about it.
Speaker 2: If they're not worried about it, and I think it's
Speaker 2: proven to be a one off other issues off the field.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought it up just because it will
Speaker 3: be a conversation. It will, don't I don't think that.
Speaker 6: Might be an analyst ESPN and NFL network conversation they've had,
Speaker 6: they've known about it, the case Bot missed.
Speaker 3: It's I think we're good, give me right, I'm going
Speaker 3: to go with you and I And it's also based
Speaker 3: on my knowledge as Kyle, because I'm playing two different roles.
Speaker 1: I've got inside knowledge.
Speaker 3: I think they would consider ban I know there's been
Speaker 3: some smoke where ah, you know, we may not have
Speaker 3: Baine on our board at twelve. I think they still would.
Speaker 3: So I would take Rubens Bays in this scenario where
Speaker 3: you get wiped out. If there are any of those
Speaker 3: five names above him, any of the five names where
Speaker 3: it's Delayne Styles, Downs, Bailey, Reese, any of those guys fall,
Speaker 3: they're the pick at twelve. Yeah, any of those five.
Speaker 3: I think Bain is the second, the sixth option, and
Speaker 3: I think he's the secondary tier of guys, but he's
Speaker 3: at the top of the second tier, and that's where
Speaker 3: I think. So they are going to stick in back.
Speaker 3: They're gonna take Ruben Bain. All right, Now, we're going
Speaker 3: to fast forward a little bit here. The mkay Lemon
Speaker 3: goes to the Rams, Dylan Thieneman goes to the Ravens,
Speaker 3: who I think would very much so be in play
Speaker 3: at twenty if he were to fall. Another Oregon player,
Speaker 3: Kenyon Sadiq, goes fifteen to the to the Buccaneers. The
Speaker 3: Jets take Monroe Freeling your Dog at pick number eighteen.
Speaker 3: Then uh vega Ione goes to the Lions at seventeen.
Speaker 3: Emmanuel McNeil Warren goes eighteen to the Vikings and then
Speaker 3: Omar Cooper goes to the Panthers wide receiver out of Indiana.
Speaker 3: Take your pick, buddy, you got a lot of options.
Speaker 4: You've got a lot of options, a lot of options.
Speaker 3: Here's here's some of the names that are still on
Speaker 3: the board. I Colton Hood, C J. Allen, a keem Mesidor,
Speaker 3: Keldric falk Avion, Terrell cash Is, Halkaden Proctor, T J. Parker,
Speaker 3: who I know they are very high on. I'm looking
Speaker 3: at some of the other possibilities here. Brandon sees who
Speaker 3: they like a lot. Jake Rodriguez is on there.
Speaker 4: CJ. Allen is on there.
Speaker 9: C J.
Speaker 3: Allen is on there.
Speaker 4: Done.
Speaker 3: I don't think they feel as highly Remember I just
Speaker 3: said Rodriguez is their second life.
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: I I kind of feel you. He's coming off of
Speaker 3: a knee and maybe there's a red shirt element there.
Speaker 3: He's I think he'll be fine, He's fine. I agree.
Speaker 4: How would I say it?
Speaker 9: Go?
Speaker 4: Dogs?
Speaker 3: Wow? Uh okay, So out of those choices, who do
Speaker 3: you feel confident in. Let's take c. J. Allen out
Speaker 3: just because I'm pretty confident he's not at that point
Speaker 3: on their board, that's fair, Kyle. I guess Rodriguez, Okay,
Speaker 3: he would be higher or he would be he would
Speaker 3: be up there in the conversation. I think they would
Speaker 3: take colton Hood here. You take, you take, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: take Ruben Bain, You get your edge Rusher at twelve.
Speaker 3: I bet the Bobby Belt walking by the studio. I
Speaker 3: bet you that colton Hood is in conversation there, clean body,
Speaker 3: clean bill of health.
Speaker 4: Where are your linebackers, Kyle? Are they coming after the draft?
Speaker 3: They're coming after the draft.
Speaker 4: That's as the George Pickings situation. You get your guy afterwards.
Speaker 3: Or maybe one of those guys falls. I know they
Speaker 3: like Rodriguez. We talked about Anthony Hill Junior talked about
Speaker 3: or we haven't talked about it on this show. But
Speaker 3: Joe sayah Trotter, I think is in play. There are
Speaker 3: some guys there that they like c J. Allen if
Speaker 3: he falls, maybe because of the medical but not your
Speaker 3: main Green Dot guy not right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my pick is c J. Allen.
Speaker 2: But with Kyle's hypothetical, I go colton Hood in that hypothetical.
Speaker 2: Being in that hypothetical. What I don't like is the
Speaker 2: same thing Josh just said I love that you got
Speaker 2: your edge, but who's your linebacker?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it'll come in that right.
Speaker 2: And and in this scenario, you're at twelve, you've picked
Speaker 2: at twelve, you're about to pick at twenty, which means
Speaker 2: you're sticking at twenty, which means you don't have a
Speaker 2: second round pick, which means you're not going to pick
Speaker 2: it get into the third one two.
Speaker 1: You're not getting your first linebacker off the board into
Speaker 1: your third round.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like those words.
Speaker 3: I don't like that, like you're going to cover two bases,
Speaker 3: that third one is gonna be left wide open no
Speaker 3: matter how you spend those words.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I liked how I spun it in
Speaker 1: the mock draft that's on Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I rout out of twenty one to
Speaker 2: twenty eight, got me a second round pick. Double diptad line.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 3: We'll be back next week to talk about what do
Speaker 3: they end up doing on Thursday through Saturday in the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six NFL Draft for Josh Rodriguez, for Patrick
Speaker 3: Nancy Walker, for Paul Bastidas in the back of Kyle
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