Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened? Back to return at Spurlock. Michael Spurlock at
Speaker 1: the chin, He's to the twenty he's the twenty five plot.
Speaker 1: Thirty to the forty yard live, we could see history.
Speaker 1: Fifty forty to the thirty yards. Let Michael run, Michael run,
Speaker 1: Michael run to South Tippa Bay. There you go, and
Speaker 1: then sixty two yard field goal of tips. It is God, God, God,
Speaker 1: God box beat the Eagles. Who can forget again? I'm
Speaker 1: looking at der Brooks dirty touchdown Tampa Bay. Derren Brooks
Speaker 1: bubbles valuable player in the National Football League. There it
Speaker 1: is the Daggers in where you gonna wear the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: We call them the Salty Dogs. So high, so high,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's your new thing. So high, that's well.
Speaker 1: We're in year three, so they know who we are.
Speaker 1: Have to yell every time doing no. I prefer you
Speaker 1: don't pee. Wee herman, would you're doing to you? I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's we'll go down. It's the Salty Dogs Podcast.
Speaker 1: The Salty Dogs are Scott Smith. That's me. I'm Jeff Ryan,
Speaker 1: and we talk about the buccaneers mostly, And that's the
Speaker 1: fun part about this podcast, at least for me. That's
Speaker 1: the reason. How do you pronounce that the was on?
Speaker 1: I could spell it, but I can't have no idea.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's I think it's a French
Speaker 1: term for the things reasons, reason for existence. I like it.
Speaker 1: So all right, here we go. So yeah, we're we're
Speaker 1: here and this and I are here to talk about
Speaker 1: buccaneer stuff. Yeah, and this is a fun week because
Speaker 1: because padded practice time, so we're the best. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that. We're gonna have a guest on and
Speaker 1: that's gonna be Um sixth round draft pick Khalil Davis,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. I'm looking forward to that. I am too,
Speaker 1: and we'll answer some questions at the young hand, I'm
Speaker 1: like always, all right, let's pick up the pace here.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, that's that's a good point
Speaker 1: because coach is coach cares very much about tempo and
Speaker 1: pace out there. We definitely have to pick it up
Speaker 1: right here, right okay, yeah, or otherwise he's gonna make
Speaker 1: us run afterwards like she did the defense. There you go.
Speaker 1: So I had to leave because I had to come
Speaker 1: up for the video conferences. Okay, well, there was a
Speaker 1: I was still down there at a point when um
Speaker 1: somebody and he started yelling at the defense and made
Speaker 1: them run. They were probably at about the yard line
Speaker 1: and they had to sprint all the way down to
Speaker 1: the other end zone and then back because he was
Speaker 1: mad at them because they did not pursue the person
Speaker 1: who caught the ball. Because in in practice like this,
Speaker 1: you don't really tackle a guy. So UM, if you
Speaker 1: see your teammate touch a guy, you think you did,
Speaker 1: that guy probably will still keep running. The receiver's running
Speaker 1: backs off and just keep running even though they would
Speaker 1: have been down. He wants everybody pursuing, you know, unless
Speaker 1: the players. This has been clear that the players over
Speaker 1: Apparently that has happened a couple of times in the
Speaker 1: last couple of days, and so he was clearly setting
Speaker 1: a tone with that. And then on his Zoom talk afterwards,
Speaker 1: which was right after practice, he was asked about that
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, there's the defense is still out
Speaker 1: there running right now because he made him run more
Speaker 1: after practice, I gotta catch that ball. It was that
Speaker 1: was that um? Was? Was that the one where Mike
Speaker 1: Evans was all jacked up, saying, how you have to
Speaker 1: catch that ball? You gotta catch that ball. No, this
Speaker 1: was this was when the defense failed to pursue a
Speaker 1: guy that I caught a ball. Okay, I don't think
Speaker 1: I saw the one you did. Yeah, the one I
Speaker 1: was talking I'm talking about is a defensive um. I
Speaker 1: don't remember the number, but anyways, had a perfect interception
Speaker 1: and dropped the ball and Mike Evans was like, you
Speaker 1: gotta catch that. And I'm like, wait a minute, You're
Speaker 1: the wide receiver. Easy for you to say the greatest
Speaker 1: receivers there is. Who knew it's that basic. You got
Speaker 1: to catch the ball. But Jeff, the coaches, Coach Bulls
Speaker 1: and coach Areans have harped on that all off season
Speaker 1: and as recently as like two days ago, that that
Speaker 1: the team did a good job of making king turnover
Speaker 1: potential turnover opportunities, but they just didn't hold onto enough
Speaker 1: of them, right, and then you give them another play.
Speaker 1: And that's why the Buccaneers led the league in passes
Speaker 1: defense over the last eight games of the season and
Speaker 1: maybe the whole season, and I think about it, but
Speaker 1: they were especially great in the last day games of
Speaker 1: the season, most passes knocked down, but they weren't near
Speaker 1: the lead for interceptions. You know, you want to close
Speaker 1: that gap. It's the same thing as like a pass
Speaker 1: rusher gets quarterback pressures or he gets sacks. You know,
Speaker 1: he gets a quarterback hit or a sack. You want
Speaker 1: to turn as many of your quarterback hits into sacks
Speaker 1: as possible. But it doesn't always happen that way. So
Speaker 1: that's what he wanted. So what else we get, Well,
Speaker 1: it's we usually like to start with any hard news, right.
Speaker 1: The only thing we really have is that Kyle Love signed.
Speaker 1: The defensive tackle Kyle Love former actually came in with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, was a teammate of Tom Brad Panther, if
Speaker 1: I recall, yeah, for about five years and right up
Speaker 1: through last year. Um, you know a good depth guy,
Speaker 1: um coach Day said he did. He was pretty disruptive.
Speaker 1: He's a really big dude, so I could see him anchoring.
Speaker 1: You know, the depth at DT isn't or d line
Speaker 1: as we call him, isn't that bad? I mean he
Speaker 1: already had suveya Goldston. Um, I think I said, I
Speaker 1: think I said I was concerned about the depth. You did,
Speaker 1: so you were perhaps right on that one. Rockie Nunaz
Speaker 1: or not Nacho is what we call him, who, by
Speaker 1: the way, I did not realize with such a trash
Speaker 1: talker on the field. Apparently he was, like he's been
Speaker 1: the number one trash talker on the field. I liked.
Speaker 1: And it works because he also apparently plays like with
Speaker 1: high energy and it is all out on every play,
Speaker 1: which coach likes. And so if you're not also going
Speaker 1: all out, you're gonna get exposed and you're also gonna
Speaker 1: get trash talk to you. But the beauty of it
Speaker 1: is you can trash talk if you perform. That's the
Speaker 1: good part. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I was never much
Speaker 1: of a trash talker. And athletics you know what you
Speaker 1: are now, well, I know I can outperform you here.
Speaker 1: Well you think I have been very nice. Remember I
Speaker 1: am a paid professional, That's true. I've never been a
Speaker 1: radio personality. I've been on the radio. But you are, yes,
Speaker 1: what you are a a your personality in your own right.
Speaker 1: And buccaneers dot com, you started it. You were one
Speaker 1: of the original buccaneer butt dot com people as a
Speaker 1: writer and then transitioned over to video and now podcasting,
Speaker 1: and that's the top of the mountain right there. Joff. Podcasting, Well, listen,
Speaker 1: easy to do TV because the pictures are being shown.
Speaker 1: Radio you gotta draw the pictures. Well. Plus I think
Speaker 1: I have a face for radio, you and me both.
Speaker 1: That's we have done this for some Did you see
Speaker 1: the very unhappy news about Jerome McCoy. I did, and um,
Speaker 1: that sucks. It does And interesting enough, I shot him
Speaker 1: at text and um, I just was kind of like, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: just like, hey, you know, I'm really sorry. Uh the answer, uh,
Speaker 1: he did, he did. I Well, what what I basically
Speaker 1: said is, hey, man, prayers for you, my friend. That's
Speaker 1: what I That's what I sent him. And he came
Speaker 1: back and he said, j R. I'm great. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, there's always a plan. I'm gonna be okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so, uh, you know, I just mean, no player
Speaker 1: wants to lose their season from it's certainly it's not.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to hint that this is what
Speaker 1: you and he were talking about. But it doesn't hurt
Speaker 1: him financially. He still gets no no, he still gets
Speaker 1: the nine million guaranteed that's in his contract. Yeah, he was,
Speaker 1: he was yeah, he was more. Um, it was more
Speaker 1: of hate. As much as I want to play, there's
Speaker 1: there's a bigger thing. And and and he did say
Speaker 1: he'll be back. Yeah, well I would assume so. So
Speaker 1: a ruptured quad from what I understand, that sounds painful. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I've had a quad that it hurts before, and that's
Speaker 1: bad enough, but the ruptured yikes. Well, and just the
Speaker 1: word rupture is and and their quads are a little thicker,
Speaker 1: just say, you know, it must have really rupture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying rupture too often. I'm beginning to not like
Speaker 1: the word anymore. Ugly word. So let's talk about some
Speaker 1: more buccaneer stuff. Cool, I'm there. One of the big
Speaker 1: stories that we knew would be the case in this
Speaker 1: camp is who is going to be the third receiver?
Speaker 1: And uh, I should say I've been asked that question
Speaker 1: in mailbag several times over the last couple of months,
Speaker 1: and I usually start with a little bit of what
Speaker 1: I guess would be a little bit of a cop
Speaker 1: out answer, and that there isn't necessarily, at least at
Speaker 1: the beginning, going to be one guy. That's the answer
Speaker 1: to that question. You could use Scotty Miller. You could
Speaker 1: use Justin Watson when he gets back on the field.
Speaker 1: You could use Tyler Johnson or Brian Mitcheller. You could
Speaker 1: have different packages for different guys. That seemed to make
Speaker 1: sense to me. And I've been writing that several times,
Speaker 1: and I was very happy to hear Bruce Arians say
Speaker 1: that same thing a couple of days ago. Made me
Speaker 1: feel like I know what I was talking about. That
Speaker 1: being said, I think most teams would like to be
Speaker 1: able to identify one guy like we had brush brush
Speaker 1: Ide Perriman in that role all year last year as
Speaker 1: your guy that takes the vast majority of your third
Speaker 1: receiver snaps. And those guys are in the news every day.
Speaker 1: They're being talked about a lot, especially Scotty Miller and
Speaker 1: Justin Watson. You know, Coach came out the other day
Speaker 1: and said Justin Watson's having a great camp. Say he
Speaker 1: so here you got here. You got Justin Watson, who
Speaker 1: was kind of like Mike Evans sized, maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit smaller. And then you've got Scotty Miller who came
Speaker 1: in the league get a you know, on seventy pounds
Speaker 1: seventy if you believe that height and um and he
Speaker 1: said today that he actually last year struggle at times
Speaker 1: not to dip into the one sixties because it's just
Speaker 1: a struggle for him to keep the weight on. So
Speaker 1: you've got Justin Watson here, he comes in about I
Speaker 1: don't know if they put a number on it, but
Speaker 1: but eight maybe eight to ten pounds lighter, and he
Speaker 1: appears faster. He ran twenty one miles. Uh you know
Speaker 1: we know that because the catapult system. Uh the other day.
Speaker 1: And then you've got Scotty Miller came in with more
Speaker 1: um muscle and more weight. He's he's hoping to play
Speaker 1: this year at a hundred and eighty. So one guy
Speaker 1: got bigger, one guy slimmed down, and they both looked
Speaker 1: very fast. So coaches saying about Scotty Miller at his
Speaker 1: speed is showing up every day. And I can confirm
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I haven't seen every snap of practice,
Speaker 1: but I've seen several Scottie Miller getting open deep plays.
Speaker 1: And see last year he was playing fast even though
Speaker 1: his technique wasn't the pest, and now is technique and
Speaker 1: so he looks even fast. You know what I love
Speaker 1: is when you hear a lot of black guys saying
Speaker 1: or maybe coach is saying, yeah, they just they know
Speaker 1: the game better, their techniques better, but you don't hear
Speaker 1: the details. I like when occasionally from a coach, especially
Speaker 1: you hear a specific detail, like for today, Scotty Miller
Speaker 1: coach Kevin Garver was saying he's better at getting off
Speaker 1: of his presses because he generally because he's so fast
Speaker 1: as a rookie, his idea of basically was just trying
Speaker 1: to sprint around him to the outside. Why does every
Speaker 1: time um one thing you'd want to have variety and
Speaker 1: for the other thing that doesn't always work. So now
Speaker 1: he says he's Kevin Garver. You wouldn't think patients would
Speaker 1: be something you'd want in beating a press. You'd think
Speaker 1: it'd be immediate, But he means patients, I guess and
Speaker 1: going into whatever his move is gonna be, setting up
Speaker 1: the defender a little bit and keeping him guessing, which
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. Makes the defender go one way where
Speaker 1: you're going to go to the other, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: know you're going that way. Is a little rope to dope.
Speaker 1: I imagine if every single time on the press, you
Speaker 1: so he's coming to the outside, but we do know
Speaker 1: that happened. So I guess it's like anything else is
Speaker 1: the more you practice, the better you get. And they're
Speaker 1: very very high on on Scotty Miller when he was
Speaker 1: on the Salty Dogs. I just like, how can you
Speaker 1: not like this guy? I mean seriously, I mean just
Speaker 1: Once is a very likable guy, very much so, very
Speaker 1: much so. Bryan Mitchell, who's in the competition, might be
Speaker 1: the most likable guy on this whole thing. Guy know.
Speaker 1: I so hope he stays healthy. Yes, um, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what happened to Hi last year's having a good camp
Speaker 1: and the torn achilles in the preseason opener. Um So,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans was talking today and he was saying, how
Speaker 1: great Justin wants him looks, So it's not just one
Speaker 1: coach trying to talk him up. Um So, do you know,
Speaker 1: getting back to one guy putting on weight, one guy
Speaker 1: taking them off. Kevin Garver said, both those guys came
Speaker 1: back in great shape and ready to work, so they
Speaker 1: had no problem with the acclamation period, and they have
Speaker 1: no problem once we get here start running and putting
Speaker 1: on pads, which is good because if you're slowed, then
Speaker 1: all your progress is going to be slowed, right, So, Um,
Speaker 1: some people had a harder time using that quarantine time
Speaker 1: to get themselves in whatever shape they wanted to be in, bigger, smaller,
Speaker 1: better shape. But these two guys apparently had no trouble
Speaker 1: with that whatsoever. No, Scotty Miller was saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: whether you hang out in someone's garage or they come
Speaker 1: to your garage to to lift weights, you got to
Speaker 1: find a way to get it done. Yeah, you'd admire that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's certainly hunger uh. And the fact that
Speaker 1: this year, I mean, this could this is career changing.
Speaker 1: This could be a career changing year for those younger guys.
Speaker 1: But it's good. It makes you feel better because you
Speaker 1: come in with those with Mike and Chris and you
Speaker 1: know you're great at the top two and you just
Speaker 1: don't know how it's gonna shake out after that. But
Speaker 1: we're already starting to see some guys stand out, and
Speaker 1: that's good. Also in a very similar way, Um, Anthony
Speaker 1: Nelson is apparently doing very well. Um, he's done a
Speaker 1: good zoom yesterday, and he is another guy who is
Speaker 1: in a position where the top two are obviously among
Speaker 1: the league's best. In shock and jp P and then
Speaker 1: everybody after that is very inexperienced, including him because he's
Speaker 1: played about nine eight or nine NFL games. From the
Speaker 1: midpoint of last season on he played sixteen snaps because
Speaker 1: he was out for all but one game. UM. So
Speaker 1: he and he doesn't have much experience, doesn't have a
Speaker 1: sack yet, although he did have a force pomo um.
Speaker 1: But they love what he's doing. I think he looks
Speaker 1: great and they think um. Larry Foote said in in
Speaker 1: the attempt to replace what Carl Nassa brought to you
Speaker 1: that Anthony is the guy. That's the way he put it.
Speaker 1: He is the guy, but I mean it also is
Speaker 1: good to sort of He's not saying, well, you know,
Speaker 1: Anthony Nelson is a good candid, but we got all
Speaker 1: these other young guys too. He basically said, Anthony Nelson
Speaker 1: is the guy. So they're expecting him to win that
Speaker 1: third spot in the rotation, which takes the vast majority
Speaker 1: of the snaps that the other two guys don't take.
Speaker 1: The fourth guy doesn't get a ton in most games. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he said everybody else is fighting for one bone.
Speaker 1: Now that would lead you to believe there's gonna be
Speaker 1: four outside linebackers on the team. I think what that
Speaker 1: probably means is four outside linebacker is active on game
Speaker 1: day because last year we car carried more than four
Speaker 1: quite a bit. At the end of the year, we
Speaker 1: had six of them, but a lot of more in playing,
Speaker 1: you know. I think obviously Kazin got promoted. I think
Speaker 1: Quentin Bell might have got promoted, but they really weren't playing.
Speaker 1: They were just there for depth. And if somebody I
Speaker 1: think this year is gonna be, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be really really good at knowing who to keep up
Speaker 1: and who to keep down because you just because of
Speaker 1: all that's going on, which I mean, but the only
Speaker 1: plus side to that, if you could consider this a plus,
Speaker 1: is everybody's in the same situation. It's not like just
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers that you're hoping that you know, you don't
Speaker 1: have to move people up and down. I think that's
Speaker 1: just the way the league is going to be this year.
Speaker 1: There's just no other way around it. Hopefully less than more,
Speaker 1: but you've got to be ready for more. It's gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like any season. When you think of injuries,
Speaker 1: there's always some teams that get hit a lot worse
Speaker 1: and some teams that are very fortunate And it's not
Speaker 1: really a surprise when the teams that are more fortunate
Speaker 1: with injuries are the ones at the top of the standings.
Speaker 1: That that's a big part of every year. So just
Speaker 1: expand that to and fud COVID. Some teams are going
Speaker 1: to be more fortunate than others unless this crazy plan
Speaker 1: succeeds and it doesn't become a problem for anybody. Because
Speaker 1: right now the NFL is down to twelve players on
Speaker 1: COVID list. That's pretty darn good. Uh, next two weeks,
Speaker 1: that's what you think. Yeah, I think the next two
Speaker 1: weeks is gonna really be the tell of where we're
Speaker 1: where we're at. Um. Teams are practicing, they're practicing with pads,
Speaker 1: there's no mask on when you're we're tackling with each other,
Speaker 1: and so in in that vein, um, you're really going
Speaker 1: to get a good feel for for how guys are
Speaker 1: doing well. All of those things like tackling each other
Speaker 1: and not wearing masks in the field are all normal
Speaker 1: in a normal year, and they are not anything to
Speaker 1: worry about if nobody has the COVID. So the point
Speaker 1: is you got to keep it out of the building
Speaker 1: right and and being tested every day. And it looks good.
Speaker 1: But we talked about this yesterday. Aren't yesterday last week.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna keep going on it. It's what you
Speaker 1: do outside the building when you go home, and the
Speaker 1: people that you surround yourself with. And it seems like
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of you know a lot of guys yeah
Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, guys have young families, so they're really
Speaker 1: really concerned. So you see, you see it. I think
Speaker 1: it's being taken seriously, and that's huge. You know when
Speaker 1: you look around, Um, it's interesting to watch what coaches
Speaker 1: wear masks and when they wear a mask, you know,
Speaker 1: depending on when they when you start seeing guys get close,
Speaker 1: you see the mask come on. You know. Uh. Very
Speaker 1: impressed with with how people have been treating it the
Speaker 1: last couple of days. The important thing is to take
Speaker 1: this virus situation seriously. Well it's a thought, kind of
Speaker 1: a mark, but it's a thought that those have been
Speaker 1: good words to live by. Last March at the beginning
Speaker 1: of I don't have time for this. You know what
Speaker 1: political show, I don't have time for this will drive
Speaker 1: me nuts. Hey, you know this is my second show
Speaker 1: of the day. It is, so I just wanted to
Speaker 1: plug and make sure fans know that we're Yes, you're
Speaker 1: doing a big TV show live at Camp. I just
Speaker 1: getting Camp law. Yeah. The interesting thing about Training Camp
Speaker 1: Live now is it's not just twenty or thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of Casey and I talking about topics and answering fan questions.
Speaker 1: We have a camera on the field. We like to
Speaker 1: show as much action as we can. We have to
Speaker 1: stop when they get the team action. It's just the rule. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna pull the curtain back a little bit.
Speaker 1: This is a this is a huge TV production. Dual cameras. Uh,
Speaker 1: you have a producer and a truck behind you. They're
Speaker 1: doing remote cameras. And the really cool thing is you
Speaker 1: and Casey both have these little cool fans that clipped
Speaker 1: to the back of your shorts and blows cold air
Speaker 1: up there back. Do not feel bad when you're going, Wow,
Speaker 1: Scott and Casey really are struggling out there in that heat.
Speaker 1: It's still very hot. I'll be as got those. Your
Speaker 1: shirt in the back is bellowing like a sale. It
Speaker 1: works well for It works well sometimes and not other times.
Speaker 1: It was a very nice thing for Dan Roy to
Speaker 1: get for us. Is the coolest twenty dollar item of
Speaker 1: every ever. So it's a little box if you turn
Speaker 1: on and fan blows air upwards and you clip it
Speaker 1: to your belt and then you're supposed to clip your
Speaker 1: shirt into it so that it keeps it out so
Speaker 1: that they and it works okay sometimes, Casey, I think
Speaker 1: it's worked better. I think she's enjoyed it. I didn't
Speaker 1: even put it on today. I just thought it was
Speaker 1: funny when I saw him doing it. But it is
Speaker 1: a really cool production, and I think it's it's it's
Speaker 1: great that, uh, you know what coach is allowing it
Speaker 1: because everything we do, you know, football has to approve
Speaker 1: and and they're very gracious in that and the fact
Speaker 1: that you have a remote camera that you guys can
Speaker 1: go ahead and shoot behind you to give a little
Speaker 1: insight because people are used to being able to come
Speaker 1: the training camp and they can't come. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: we can't show them everything they would have seen it
Speaker 1: in all. But because that's the case now, teams are
Speaker 1: treating this more like regular season practices where they don't
Speaker 1: really want reporting of specifics on things that happened because
Speaker 1: and I think this makes sense because in a normal
Speaker 1: training camp, you would spend a good portion of your
Speaker 1: camp really not game planning, but laying the foundation. Now,
Speaker 1: with the way things are, you can actually start preparing
Speaker 1: for your first few games a little earlier, and you
Speaker 1: could do some more specific game planning and honing in
Speaker 1: on the plays that you're going to use, and that.
Speaker 1: Because you can do that, it does make sense to
Speaker 1: restrict what is shown. If you're not putting your game
Speaker 1: plan in. Now, you're in trouble because there's three weeks out,
Speaker 1: and and and when you think about it, what's the
Speaker 1: biggest game in preseason? Your third week? So this week
Speaker 1: would be the second week, and then next week would
Speaker 1: be third. So this is this is a totally different
Speaker 1: from a coaching standpoint. I believe they're preparing for at
Speaker 1: least two or three games. They won't they won't throw
Speaker 1: that on the players because they want to focus on
Speaker 1: the first one, but it will help them be prepared
Speaker 1: for game two. In game three, so let's Carolina, and
Speaker 1: then what game three? The rams um, No, it can't
Speaker 1: be the No, it's Denver, Denver. I have to think
Speaker 1: it's away home. I knew it. There's away game, and
Speaker 1: I knew the rams were here, so it couldn't be
Speaker 1: the rams. Um. So a good call there on your part.
Speaker 1: So uh. And more on that. We also have highlight packages.
Speaker 1: We break for highlight packages, we show you some action
Speaker 1: from the day before. Um. We have graphics with numbers
Speaker 1: the case you know. I can talk about there's a
Speaker 1: lot that's going into it this year, so I encourage
Speaker 1: people to watch. And unless it changes, it's every day
Speaker 1: from at the start of practice thirty and we go
Speaker 1: for about forty five minutes. It's checking out. You can
Speaker 1: watch on Facebook, you can watch on YouTube. You can
Speaker 1: watch it on buckeers dot com. But on the first
Speaker 1: two you can also send in questions. You can watch
Speaker 1: it on your app. You can watch on your app.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can sit in questions that
Speaker 1: way or not. No, you can't. But what I do
Speaker 1: is is I'm watching practice on the other end of
Speaker 1: the field, but I'm watching what you guys are doing,
Speaker 1: just in case you're throwing something out there that I
Speaker 1: don't know about today. Um Uh. Jason Turner, who helps
Speaker 1: us with the show too, was sitting there and he
Speaker 1: was kind of helping spot things because we're staring at
Speaker 1: the camera. And he pointed out that Claike Christiansen had
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks working with wet balls today, you know that
Speaker 1: wet ball drill. He was soaking the footballs to make
Speaker 1: them throw wet footballs. Which I mean, we're looking out
Speaker 1: across this great lobbying out through that giant football. And
Speaker 1: what's it doing again right now, Joe, Well, it's raining
Speaker 1: and wait, what time is it? H two o'clock, So
Speaker 1: we'd be in the second quarter of a game, a
Speaker 1: one o'clock game right now, and this is like every day,
Speaker 1: or under some head coaches, we'd be getting ready to
Speaker 1: go have practice right now. But that's a whole other story, digress.
Speaker 1: And we've had a lot of different We've had a
Speaker 1: lot of varieties. This one clearly makes sense. You. I
Speaker 1: am all about getting up and rolling in and getting
Speaker 1: your work done, getting the field, and by ten o'clock
Speaker 1: we're off and we're doing press conference. And gives you it, kids,
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. I get your point. Yeah, it gives you
Speaker 1: time in the afternoon to do fun stuff like this.
Speaker 1: So I got anything else? I got one more thing
Speaker 1: to talk about. Go ahead one more. We're at about
Speaker 1: the twenty one minute marks. So we have been asked.
Speaker 1: I think it was a question. I think it was
Speaker 1: one of these mail bad questions, asked about those catapult systems,
Speaker 1: those black harnesses, and we we did explain in general terms,
Speaker 1: total fashion things. Statement at all. Well, when you're Jordan
Speaker 1: Whited with your giant arms you walk out there. All
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll say about about that is Mike Evans
Speaker 1: was all excited because they think he said he was
Speaker 1: running twenty one. That Okay, I'm sorry, I might. That's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine. That's a good point because, yeah, Mike Evans
Speaker 1: says he had the fastest track time today, which is
Speaker 1: twenty one. So he was clearly proud of very much.
Speaker 1: So he didn't waste any time bringing it up, which
Speaker 1: I think is pretty cool that they that. Another quick
Speaker 1: aspect of that. Um, they also can tell you if
Speaker 1: you're working more off your left leg or you're right.
Speaker 1: Let's just want to read my notes. Well, you're doing
Speaker 1: a good job, but you gotta remember I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the same press conferences as you are. I mean, I
Speaker 1: realize you don't think I absorbed very much, but I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the same stuff you are. But I'm sorry
Speaker 1: both here. I'm just rambling on. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Quiet who brought it up first. Maybe it was, but
Speaker 1: I think it was Bruce. And then Mike also brought
Speaker 1: it up, and the coach said, they can tell you
Speaker 1: if a player is working one leg harder than the
Speaker 1: other one, and so they if so, And then Mike
Speaker 1: was talking about if if they tell you that, then
Speaker 1: they adjust your weightroom workouts, like maybe we need to
Speaker 1: strengthen up this hip or so. That's incredible. It's what's
Speaker 1: amazing about it, And we talked a little bit about
Speaker 1: it last week, especially here is how much activity you
Speaker 1: are doing and how do we make it right because
Speaker 1: as time goes on, your body kind of wears down
Speaker 1: in the season is and so it's amazing that I
Speaker 1: don't know who does the analytics on it. We've got
Speaker 1: people here, well I know there's people here, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, ye talk about talk about crunching numbers well
Speaker 1: as you, well you should as the top man on
Speaker 1: the total polled coach areans has it has its best
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have to break down any of the data.
Speaker 1: They just come and tell them we need to work
Speaker 1: is right, like a little harder, a little less. So
Speaker 1: this is where it gets kind of minority report. Is okay?
Speaker 1: Seen that movie? Right? Great movie? Um he's going to
Speaker 1: recite a line now. It's an adaptation of a Philip K.
Speaker 1: Dick movie as a book, as a lot of great
Speaker 1: science fiction movies are, and um uh. In it, Tom Cruise,
Speaker 1: the main character is on a police force that predicts crime,
Speaker 1: so they call it pre crimes, so they are able
Speaker 1: to predict a crime is gonna happen and get there
Speaker 1: and arrest the person before he actually crime, which, if
Speaker 1: you think about too much, isn't really fair. And so
Speaker 1: he ends up fighting the system. I think Colin Farrell
Speaker 1: is the guy chasing him. It's a very very good movie. Um.
Speaker 1: So they say that with this data they can tell
Speaker 1: you if a player seems to be imminent to having injury. Really,
Speaker 1: if an injury is imminent that I don't think that
Speaker 1: probably means that they'll be able to say, okay, Mike, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to use anybody's names because I don't
Speaker 1: want to change somebody. Bob Player player a Bob Smith.
Speaker 1: If he keeps going the way he's going two days
Speaker 1: from now, he's gonna pop a hamstring or something. But
Speaker 1: they can say these conditions put this player of danger
Speaker 1: of injuries, and so they're predicting when a player is
Speaker 1: in danger of an imminent injury and and altering things
Speaker 1: so that it doesn't happen, which is pretty darn amazing.
Speaker 1: It's is actually mind boggling when you think about it.
Speaker 1: And but the other side is how excited the players
Speaker 1: are buying into it. Would well, sure, it's your livelihood,
Speaker 1: Yeah it's Mike. Listen, you've gotta change this or you're
Speaker 1: gonna pull. And maybe sometimes they need to have it
Speaker 1: proven to them, you know. You know, Bob Smith comes
Speaker 1: back in and said, they told me if I kept
Speaker 1: doing that, I would pop a hamstring, and sure enough
Speaker 1: I did, and everybody else is listening, going, okay, we
Speaker 1: better listen to that. But you know, most players, the
Speaker 1: thing that they lock on is how fast was that going?
Speaker 1: They do like that far. It can tell you how
Speaker 1: fast you're running, also how hard you are running, which
Speaker 1: I guess it's two different things. But see that's how
Speaker 1: they hook you. They give you the fun fact before
Speaker 1: they hit you with the hard stuff. I know how
Speaker 1: they work. Yeah, so Mike ran twenty one miles per
Speaker 1: hour day. Just Vin has hit that. Uh so everybody's
Speaker 1: really loved. I want to wear one. I think both
Speaker 1: of us, you know what, We're gonna have to work
Speaker 1: that out. So you reached the top speed of four miles,
Speaker 1: I love. I'd love for both of us to wear
Speaker 1: it and see how fast we actually could go. Can
Speaker 1: we rewind to like police, I probably go pretty fast
Speaker 1: for about the first twenty yards and then that Hamiel
Speaker 1: pop big time. I got, I got. Uh. I did
Speaker 1: have John Zig time me in the four yard dash
Speaker 1: one time and my twenties. Would you do four nine?
Speaker 1: Pretty good? That's not pretty good for a guy at
Speaker 1: your size. Yeah. But then you have the guy we're
Speaker 1: about to talk to today. I don't know what if
Speaker 1: you looked at up we're gonna I was looking up
Speaker 1: some stuff so i'd be ready for interviewing him and
Speaker 1: or talking to him. And he ran a four seven
Speaker 1: five at set the combine. Yeah, he said. In his
Speaker 1: interview after the draft, they asked him about Tristan Whorf's
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I saw him. I couldn't believe he
Speaker 1: ran fest because I think Tristan wearing like a four five.
Speaker 1: He said, I told himself, I don't run faster than
Speaker 1: Tristan Worth and he did. He did. That's crazy. It's
Speaker 1: pretty good. So let's go get let's go get the
Speaker 1: zoom fired up. All right, let's do that. This is
Speaker 1: the end of our first segment, so goodbye the Salty
Speaker 1: Dogs and we're back here on the Salty Dogs Podcast
Speaker 1: for our second segment. And it's always our favorite segment
Speaker 1: because it's when we get our guest with us. I
Speaker 1: continue to be Scott Smith and I'm still Jeff Ryan
Speaker 1: And the best part about this is that Scott doesn't
Speaker 1: talk as much, so that's the exciting part about and
Speaker 1: our guest today from the University of Nebraska defensive lineman
Speaker 1: Khalil Davis, rookie getting his first taste in the NFL. Kalil,
Speaker 1: thanks first of all for your time. But how do
Speaker 1: you feel right now? I know you've already had a
Speaker 1: really hot practice lifted weights. How are you feeling pretty good?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm starting to get used to the heat, so
Speaker 1: every day is getting a little bit better. But that
Speaker 1: heat is no joke out here, So how much worse
Speaker 1: is it than Nebraska or Kansas City. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: six seven times work. I mean it's humid there, but
Speaker 1: the humidity here is is different. I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: it's not the heat, it's the humidity. So, Khalio, you
Speaker 1: got drafted by the Bucks. I'm sure that was exciting
Speaker 1: and you and your brother Carlos were both waiting to
Speaker 1: hear it. So you get drafted in the sixth round, right,
Speaker 1: and Carlos hadn't been taken yet. Now were you torn
Speaker 1: between hoping that he would You wanted him to get
Speaker 1: the experience of being drafted, which he did, but if
Speaker 1: he didn't get drafted, there was a chance he could
Speaker 1: come here. Yeah, there there was a so after I've
Speaker 1: got my name called, I had well it was a
Speaker 1: quick like as soon as it happened, I was like
Speaker 1: immediately back to him. So I was waiting on him
Speaker 1: to get his call. But in between that there was
Speaker 1: some talk of like teams calling him and wanting him
Speaker 1: to come here or go to Miami to be close
Speaker 1: to each other. But um, thankfully, you know, a team
Speaker 1: took a chance on him and he was able to
Speaker 1: go to a really good programs. So Pittsburgh, right, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: which is which is nice because he was born before you,
Speaker 1: but you get drafted before him, and now you're tied. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so now we're just we're just plank feels just leveled
Speaker 1: out a little bit more so. Now the question is,
Speaker 1: let's see, he's five minutes older than you. Yes, and
Speaker 1: and so you got drafted how many more minutes than
Speaker 1: he did? Let's say about there you go, you win.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Nebraska guys, you're now a teammate with and Domicken,
Speaker 1: Sue and Lavante David and and obviously those are superstars
Speaker 1: at this level. I mean, how much fun has it
Speaker 1: been to come and, you know, interact with those guys.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you knew all about him before you got here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it was definitely the first couple of days, like
Speaker 1: I had to take a step back and be like, man, like,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting with these guys in the same room, mom,
Speaker 1: interacting with these guys, like I really didn't know how
Speaker 1: to act. But in the first like after a week
Speaker 1: or two, they kind of started to say some things
Speaker 1: to me, and so he's been real helpful. I try
Speaker 1: to go up to him and ask him, you know,
Speaker 1: like it was something new I can learn from you
Speaker 1: today and stuff like that. But he's he's uh, he's
Speaker 1: been helping me a lot, and he's been a good
Speaker 1: world model to watch and learn from. So I'm just
Speaker 1: taking a day by day and trying to learn and
Speaker 1: see from what those guys doing practice everything. What are
Speaker 1: you playing out there on so far? I know you've
Speaker 1: only had a few practices so far. But where are
Speaker 1: they playing you? Because you played all over the line
Speaker 1: in Nebraska. Yeah, I mainly playing three tech right now,
Speaker 1: so but sometimes, like I'm in that range from a
Speaker 1: four to three and in the way our defense set
Speaker 1: up here, so I can go to three, go to
Speaker 1: a four, depending on what you're comfortable with all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you you even rushed off the edge something
Speaker 1: in Nebraska, didn't you. Yeah? I did. I've played a
Speaker 1: lot of five tech and in college, so no, I'm
Speaker 1: there's no where I'm uncomfortable on the line. So you're
Speaker 1: you're what about six one and so you've got old
Speaker 1: lineman six five and most people will go, well, that's
Speaker 1: that's your disadvantage, but you've proven that that is actually
Speaker 1: an advantage for you. Can you talk about that a
Speaker 1: little bit? Well, one. I'm like everybody thinks like it's funny,
Speaker 1: they say, because they think it's a disadvantaged for me,
Speaker 1: which sometimes it is. But a lot of the time
Speaker 1: it's advantaged for me because I'm playing lower. I'm always
Speaker 1: playing lower than them, and I'm faster than most guys,
Speaker 1: so I can get around those guys quicker, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I can just rip right under those guys and get through.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of the times if I play
Speaker 1: super low, it's hard for them to get to my
Speaker 1: chest and get to me, so I just gotta do
Speaker 1: a good job of staying down. But it's definitely advantaged
Speaker 1: for me when I'm playing low, really low. What you
Speaker 1: what'd you run at the combine force of them? Uh?
Speaker 1: That is that around what your goal was? Did you
Speaker 1: hit your goal? I really thought I was gonna rhund
Speaker 1: like four nine. Wow, he nailed it. Yeah, my trainer
Speaker 1: he was. He was telling us we were running fon
Speaker 1: blasts the all time, so we didn't know. We were
Speaker 1: thought we were gonna run a five or four nine.
Speaker 1: So I heard you being I heard you being asked
Speaker 1: about that right after your drafted. How's a guy as
Speaker 1: big as you have speed like that and a gilty
Speaker 1: and part of your answer was you played so many
Speaker 1: different sports as a kid. I think I remember swimming
Speaker 1: being one of them. We've talked about this before. We're
Speaker 1: I think Jeff and are both of the opinion that
Speaker 1: nowadays there's a lot of specialized parents often have their
Speaker 1: kids just play one sport and pour a lot of
Speaker 1: effort into maybe baseball or whatever. Do you think maybe
Speaker 1: it's an advantage to let these kids play a lot
Speaker 1: of different things. I think it is one because you know,
Speaker 1: when you're like, you don't know which sport that you
Speaker 1: like it, and if you just, um, make your kids
Speaker 1: do one sport, they don't really know if they want
Speaker 1: to do anything else. So I think it's it's just
Speaker 1: throw them in certain things and a lot of those
Speaker 1: things that correlate at some point and what they do,
Speaker 1: so um, you can you take things from each one
Speaker 1: and put it into football. So all those other things
Speaker 1: that I did, it helped me with the little things
Speaker 1: that as being a demon sup blind. So it was
Speaker 1: I remember swimming. What else was it? It was swimming,
Speaker 1: um truck um. I did running in the discuss and
Speaker 1: chocolate um and swimming was a good part of that,
Speaker 1: but that was before I got to uh, that was
Speaker 1: when I was younger, eight nine and ten in that range.
Speaker 1: But all those sports helped me at some point. That's cool.
Speaker 1: It's it's early in camp. But what is the one
Speaker 1: thing that surprised you? Maybe surprisesn't the word, but what
Speaker 1: is the one thing that you went huh. I didn't
Speaker 1: think about this for camp. One was the heat back then,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's so it's so bad here, Like if
Speaker 1: you think you're drinking enough water, you're never drinking enough,
Speaker 1: Like I constantly have to drink water to drink pia
Speaker 1: like girls. And the main thing is you don't want
Speaker 1: to get hurt. So I'm always drinking water, always doing
Speaker 1: that stuff. But the other thing I didn't think about
Speaker 1: was I didn't realize like how many like superstars I'm
Speaker 1: playing with four around wow, And it's kind of just
Speaker 1: helped me, like, Okay, you're here with these guys. You
Speaker 1: know you can be just like them if you just
Speaker 1: put your head down work every day. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not always like this either. Um, there's a real sense
Speaker 1: that this roster now for the Bucks is really loaded
Speaker 1: right now, and uh, it's you know, it's obviously they wanted,
Speaker 1: we want a super Bowl. We've been to the playoffs
Speaker 1: in the past, but there's been ups and downs, and
Speaker 1: it just seems like right now this rosters as load
Speaker 1: as as it's ever been. So I mean, that's got
Speaker 1: to be fun to join that, right, Yeah, it's definitely,
Speaker 1: uh find even just like see Tom Brady and um,
Speaker 1: all those guys just around here growing. Just seeing them around,
Speaker 1: it's like, man, I could I could be a part
Speaker 1: of this. I just keep my head down and work.
Speaker 1: So just just so you know, Scott and I've been
Speaker 1: around for for a little bit. We've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of buck in year football, and the last two days
Speaker 1: we've gotten a couple of oos and odds of watching
Speaker 1: practice and we're really excited about this. So I can
Speaker 1: see where you're coming from. We only got you for
Speaker 1: a couple more minutes. I wanted to ask you real quickly.
Speaker 1: You know. One of the reasons we're we've been starting
Speaker 1: our podcast guests this year with with the rookies is
Speaker 1: the community here hasn't really had much of an opportunity
Speaker 1: to get to know you guys. Yeah, especially because of
Speaker 1: all the quarantineing. Um, I think I saw that you
Speaker 1: are very interested in getting involved in community works, specifically
Speaker 1: with children. Is is that a question yours? Yes? It is.
Speaker 1: I love that's That's what I would be doing if
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing football or fishing. At some point in
Speaker 1: my own will work with kids and either whether it's
Speaker 1: a you know all scare or teaching or coaching, it'll
Speaker 1: be something of that. So you're a fisherman now, he says,
Speaker 1: he's a fisherman. So I got a brack and is
Speaker 1: that a Is that a that's a grouper? Have you
Speaker 1: have you done? Have you done that? Go ahead? I
Speaker 1: haven't haven't experienced that that saltwater fishing yet, so I
Speaker 1: gotta this is the perfect place to do that. Well, well,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll make sure you find a good place.
Speaker 1: What's your what type of fishing is your expertise? That's
Speaker 1: restaurant mostly. I love to fish from bad So he's
Speaker 1: a finessed fisherman. Yep, yeah, I see. Well, Jeff, you're
Speaker 1: from Blue Springs, Missouri, right right? You're from Blue Springs, Yes,
Speaker 1: suburb of Kansas City, Yes, sir. Little known fact Jeff
Speaker 1: I lived in Blue Springs for a short period of time.
Speaker 1: So there's we've got that connection there. So when you
Speaker 1: laugh and really went up, so is that it. I
Speaker 1: was an intern for the Chiefs, for your Chiefs fan
Speaker 1: growing up. Come on, it's like, yeah, that's the best answer. Average.
Speaker 1: He looked at it. He looked at you, this guy.
Speaker 1: Come on, I do that all the time to him.
Speaker 1: Come on, Well there was some great Chiefs back then,
Speaker 1: but that was a while ago. So anyway, Khalil, once again,
Speaker 1: I know you're in the middle of a very busy
Speaker 1: and uh an entiring day. So thank you for your time.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it and we hope to get to
Speaker 1: meet you soon. Yes, thank you. The Salt to Dogs. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're back here for our third segment. As you can see,
Speaker 1: I I did away with the muted openings. Yes, I
Speaker 1: noticed this. It was just a one time thing that
Speaker 1: was fun with Khalil. It was a great time, very nice,
Speaker 1: very and and thank we What so everybody knows is
Speaker 1: there's so many there. There are a lot of restrictions
Speaker 1: and the players are being really really gracious to figure
Speaker 1: out when they can do with the Salty Dogs. And
Speaker 1: it's in between basically their lunch. It's right after practice.
Speaker 1: Then it was today. Yeah, then he had to lift weights,
Speaker 1: and I think last week Deuce actually found time at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Yeah and yeah, late late
Speaker 1: in the day. So you know, we we appreciate them
Speaker 1: because the schedule is pretty tight. Yeah. And it gives
Speaker 1: and it gives you guys, you guys being you that
Speaker 1: are listening, an opportunity to do a little insight of
Speaker 1: our our new players. Yeah. I hope we get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to know them all a lot more in person
Speaker 1: that I can't wait. That's you know, it's funny. I
Speaker 1: that's the hardest adjustment I'm having is not the interaction
Speaker 1: with the players and and being able to develop some
Speaker 1: kind of relationship with them. And an example was UM Sunday,
Speaker 1: I came to get tested and as I was leaving UM,
Speaker 1: cam Brake came walking by and we're social distancing the
Speaker 1: far away had I was. I really was, and we
Speaker 1: were basically young. But he was like, he was like, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see you around. What's going on?
Speaker 1: I go, I'm not in the t you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't make the cut. We can't go down and and
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, that really sucks. I said, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the hardest part about building a relationship, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, but at least we have zoom, and he
Speaker 1: goes and puts his thumb down. Yeah. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big fan of zoom, and and it does make interviewing
Speaker 1: harder because you can't read body languages so well and
Speaker 1: so but but we do appreciate the guys absolutely, and
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get back to personal. We also appreciate the
Speaker 1: fans who take the time to send in question and
Speaker 1: we don't need to do zoom. We can just you
Speaker 1: just read the question. I'm gonna read these questions putting
Speaker 1: on these green glasses like totally don't see. Um, this
Speaker 1: is a very nice and brief question, all right. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the name sounds familiar, so I think in years
Speaker 1: past he might have gotten questions before. His name is
Speaker 1: Todd Birchfield, panasoft Key, Florida. Oh yeah, I remember that,
Speaker 1: which is in Sumter County. He managed to tell me here,
Speaker 1: really his name. His credentials are almost as long as
Speaker 1: the question. One to three f nine words in the question. Okay,
Speaker 1: eight in the credentials very good, alright, salty ones. How
Speaker 1: are the place kickers looking so far, I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you start because I haven't seen much of it. Have
Speaker 1: you seen any of it? Yeah, they were kicking today. Okay,
Speaker 1: was it while we're on the show. Um, No, it's
Speaker 1: near the end. Um. I came up a little bit early.
Speaker 1: They I don't think anybody missed. No, they No one
Speaker 1: did miss and uh an interesting sidebar. We were standing
Speaker 1: there and someone goes, gosh, you remember when we never
Speaker 1: really paid much attention to whether the kick or could
Speaker 1: kick or not. That's really what you would like to do.
Speaker 1: You would like to be ignoring the kicker. But I
Speaker 1: mean everybody was focused on just watching, you know. Uh so,
Speaker 1: but they looked, both of them. They look good too.
Speaker 1: Everybody probably knows that one of those two is Matt Nick,
Speaker 1: who was the kicker last year and a two fifth
Speaker 1: round draft pick. The other one is Elliott Fry, who
Speaker 1: I think he's been in Carolina maybe one other place.
Speaker 1: He hasn't kicked in in a regular season game yet,
Speaker 1: but he's he's been on a couple of rosters. Good.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was good competition and a lot
Speaker 1: of yelling and screaming and all they were doing that
Speaker 1: to him there they were. They were lining up and
Speaker 1: making I mean the real deal. Yeah I didn't, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and they looked up today, but yes I did not.
Speaker 1: As if I recall correctly, no one missed today and
Speaker 1: they were moving him back and bade. The other day,
Speaker 1: I saw Matt Gay working by himself, as kickers often
Speaker 1: end up doing while uh the other players are having
Speaker 1: them more fun on the other fields. And if you
Speaker 1: could picture a kicker with okay, so his foot is planted,
Speaker 1: his his plant foot is planted, and then he swings
Speaker 1: his foot through kicks the ball right, imagine taking that
Speaker 1: process down and breaking it into parts and then doing
Speaker 1: it over and over again, like the moment when your
Speaker 1: foot is hitting the ball on the ground. I think
Speaker 1: it probably hits the ground too. He just standing there
Speaker 1: doing it over and over and over again, just that
Speaker 1: one part of the swing. And then he did another
Speaker 1: part of this swing, which I found interesting. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's a matter of trying to establish muscle
Speaker 1: memory exactly. That's exactly You're standing there and do it
Speaker 1: this way ten times in a row, and then when
Speaker 1: when the heat is on your you don't even think
Speaker 1: about this is it's like a golf swing, and I
Speaker 1: do think he has a pretty simple and uh form
Speaker 1: and he's good at repeating it, which is really what you,
Speaker 1: I think when you need to poor Roberto Oguya, we
Speaker 1: don't want to kick dirt on on guy that struggled here.
Speaker 1: But he had a pretty complicated looking kicking, deliberate. It
Speaker 1: changed every every kick. It was never the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think when it's more complicated, it's hard to
Speaker 1: replicate it, right. Yeah, And that was one of the
Speaker 1: things that even in college, they were like, you need
Speaker 1: to but he was kicking so well that you go, well,
Speaker 1: I guess that's how it works. Yeah, And I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are kickers that can succeed that way, but I
Speaker 1: would think you're making your level difficulty harder for yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I would say right now like everyone, and and
Speaker 1: the fact that we're getting a question about the kickers
Speaker 1: just tells you where we're at with that situation. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a last year there was a competition between Matt
Speaker 1: Gay and the incumbent veteran um. That's the sound of
Speaker 1: me snapping my fingers. I can't remember. We've had so
Speaker 1: many I can't The guy from the Chiefs. That's fine. Continue. Um,
Speaker 1: so he those two were competing, and if you recall,
Speaker 1: Matt Gay was fantastic in training camp last year, but
Speaker 1: um he was being matched kick for kick by this guy.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe. I can't think of his name. I
Speaker 1: can't either, And I know there's people listening to this.
Speaker 1: That's fine, you can. You're gonna email us the name
Speaker 1: for next week and we'll update you. I mean, we
Speaker 1: could google it. I mean I think I bet it
Speaker 1: comes to me before we've even done here, or if
Speaker 1: I look it up. Um. So, anyway, this year it's
Speaker 1: the same. Now this time he's got competition again and
Speaker 1: it's Elliott Fry, not as established, but that really doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You know, they're going to kick the guy that's that
Speaker 1: performs the best. But I think it is tougher for
Speaker 1: Fry to unseat the incumbent when you have no games,
Speaker 1: because and then, like you said, they're down there yelling
Speaker 1: at them. They're trying to recreate a game atmosphere. But
Speaker 1: you can't really completely re recreate a game atmosphere or
Speaker 1: make the stakes seem that hot that high. So um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't mean really, I'm not singling
Speaker 1: out Elliott Fry. I'm just saying anybody in a situation
Speaker 1: like that, where you're in a headed competition trying to
Speaker 1: unseat the incumbent, it's gonna be harder this year without
Speaker 1: a chance to prove yourself in games, I would think. Right, So, uh,
Speaker 1: we have another question from you know this guy is great? Um,
Speaker 1: you're gonna kiro Santos Santos. You know I was totally
Speaker 1: stalling them, trying to let it come to my mind.
Speaker 1: You know you know where I got that? From a website? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really cool. It's a guy named Scott Smith wrote
Speaker 1: a story about it. I got it right here. I'm
Speaker 1: not even I'm not even lying. It's your story. Scott
Speaker 1: Smith knows who it is. Thank you, Scott. If I
Speaker 1: only knew now what I do that well there. But
Speaker 1: but in fairness to both of us, if you have to,
Speaker 1: that could be the ultimate trivia question. Name the kickers
Speaker 1: in the last four years? That? Okay, you got, Um,
Speaker 1: you don't have to. I'm just saying that you got
Speaker 1: Pat Murray. Do you have Robertoguayo, Connor Barth before that,
Speaker 1: who's the guy from the Bills whatever? Look at I
Speaker 1: couldn't remember last year, you know, next question again, I
Speaker 1: don't like I felt like Warren sapped there for a second.
Speaker 1: Next question. Our friend from sal Paulo, Brazil, Alexander Um
Speaker 1: is very nice to send in questions a lot, and
Speaker 1: we don't get to all of them. But I thought
Speaker 1: this was a good one, Um, And it really isn't
Speaker 1: because it's a great question, but it is brings up
Speaker 1: a really good topic. As I listened to your New
Speaker 1: Newest episodes and you had a few questions, I couldn't
Speaker 1: help myself and had to make one of mine. What
Speaker 1: have you thought about the new Pewter Bucks uniforms? I've
Speaker 1: just loved and congrats for whoever responsible getting back to
Speaker 1: the new old jerseys new slash old jerseys. I love them.
Speaker 1: I can't say anymore. I totally agree with those alternate
Speaker 1: Pewter jerseys. I think it's our best look. I hope
Speaker 1: we were into the accelute limit we can which you're
Speaker 1: talking you're talking the Pewter on Pewter. Yeah, they are
Speaker 1: that that is that is a and no one else
Speaker 1: has that look and anywhere, no no confusing anybody else
Speaker 1: about eight if you but I didn't use my cough
Speaker 1: but I uh, but yes, I totally agree. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like all the looks. But if you have to,
Speaker 1: if you have to pick a favorite, that the Pewter
Speaker 1: on Pewter is my favorite. Well, like you said, it
Speaker 1: is the newest thing. Because there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people and I think I'm among them that are pleased
Speaker 1: that we went back to the Super Bowl era look
Speaker 1: for the most part, Um, there are some stuff of
Speaker 1: this new stuff incorporated, but so it's pretty close to
Speaker 1: be in the Super Bowl. And I understand why we
Speaker 1: why there was a different look and we weren't the
Speaker 1: only team that a lot of the different and and
Speaker 1: you know a little I mean, this is my opinion,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a look too. Is at
Speaker 1: one time it was um Reebok making your uniforms and
Speaker 1: Nike took over. Well they weren't going to produce just
Speaker 1: what another company was. So I think that played a
Speaker 1: lot in a lot of uniform changes. Yeah, try to
Speaker 1: push the envelope a little bit, try to do something
Speaker 1: something different. Yeah, um but I think I think going back,
Speaker 1: and I think going back was a was a bold
Speaker 1: decision to go back. And like you said, they did.
Speaker 1: Around the time we did it, several other teams also
Speaker 1: kind of come up with what I guess you might
Speaker 1: call more modern looks. And now there seems to be
Speaker 1: a trend more towards going back to the classics, um
Speaker 1: which you've seen also, And like baseball stadiums, they they
Speaker 1: all became cookie cutter for a while and then and
Speaker 1: now they went back to trying to make them look
Speaker 1: like more classic ballpark. So I think people appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Every now and then people want to go back to
Speaker 1: the classic. So yes, that's why they That's why they
Speaker 1: tune in the Salty Dogs a couple of classics. See
Speaker 1: what I did, There's a connection. So yes, the old
Speaker 1: uniform old slash new uniforms are great. I think it
Speaker 1: was a great move. But the Peter ones are the
Speaker 1: new thing and they look great, I think, and so
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about those. So alrighty, I couldn't agree.
Speaker 1: I cannot agree with you, Scott. I am incapable of
Speaker 1: ingredient with Finally something I agree on with you. All right,
Speaker 1: This question, I have to admit, was not sent in
Speaker 1: specifically for Salty Dogs. He was sent in for the
Speaker 1: mail bag. And I will answer in the mail bag too,
Speaker 1: because I don't know if the person that wrote this
Speaker 1: thing is going to listen to the podcast and he
Speaker 1: deserved he or she. Let's see, I don't have a
Speaker 1: name here. I don't know if there was a name,
Speaker 1: but I didn't get it on this piece of paper.
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, and I'm gonna I'm gonna have some
Speaker 1: visual aids here in moments, let me do. I was
Speaker 1: looking through best photos from Bucks training camp practice August six,
Speaker 1: and I'll stop here to say, if you want to
Speaker 1: see some photos. We do this every day. We are
Speaker 1: great photographers are out there and we're putting up a
Speaker 1: collection of really good images. And every single day, I
Speaker 1: think the one for day is already up. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, they get it up pretty quickly. Uh.
Speaker 1: And found that I there were there were fifty six
Speaker 1: of them, and found the image thirty three out of
Speaker 1: fifty six very disturbing. I read them like disturbing. You know, somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody broke break a leg or something. He says, it's
Speaker 1: a picture of number twenty five and then in parentheses,
Speaker 1: I won't say the name to protect the guilty. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna tell us the number. We're gonna know
Speaker 1: who it is, although I will admit there are two
Speaker 1: twenty five on the roster track. One of them is
Speaker 1: a rookie safety named Javon Hagan. He is not the
Speaker 1: person being referred to here. The other one is Leshawn McCoy,
Speaker 1: the the NFL's leader in yards from scrimmage since two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine. A very accomplished player. And he says,
Speaker 1: carrying the ball like a loaf of bread. I know
Speaker 1: that's not what the coaches are teaching. He says, high
Speaker 1: and tight. That made me want to ask the question,
Speaker 1: what do you sing in camp? That makes you think
Speaker 1: we'll see a reduction in turnovers and penalties this year?
Speaker 1: It'd be a shame to continue to waste all this
Speaker 1: talent with bucks beating bucks. Also kudos to the photographer
Speaker 1: on number forty five out of what a classic speed
Speaker 1: on speed who won? Thanks as always, And I didn't
Speaker 1: get the name, so I'll put the name in the
Speaker 1: mail bake. Uh So, starting with this Lashawn McCoy picture,
Speaker 1: do you see this? Okay, so you see what he's
Speaker 1: talking about. There he's making a cut to his left,
Speaker 1: the balls in his right hand and he's got a
Speaker 1: kind of crooked along his arm, but his arm is
Speaker 1: separate from his body, so it's out here. Yes, that
Speaker 1: is obviously not the uh technique that a running backs
Speaker 1: coach would teach a running back. They generally want them,
Speaker 1: hear some of them like them more up like upright
Speaker 1: like this, do you want your point fingers over the
Speaker 1: point of the ball. You wanted to crook your elbow? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it it as you're running down. You've seen every
Speaker 1: running back to this. It's every now and then the
Speaker 1: ball you do swing your arm. It's a balanced thing
Speaker 1: or it's I've read some I read up on this.
Speaker 1: I read some suggestions that and maybe he said this
Speaker 1: at some point. That's why the author thought so that
Speaker 1: McCoy somewhat does this on purpose, because when you are
Speaker 1: carrying the ball like that, like when you're in the
Speaker 1: open field, you're defenders approaching, they see the ball out there,
Speaker 1: they focus on the ball, not your not your torso,
Speaker 1: and they go that direction and it makes it easier
Speaker 1: for him to fake him out. Could if he if
Speaker 1: he's going at that level, that's impressed. But could it
Speaker 1: also be that I'm standing up now to show you
Speaker 1: is that he has it. Okay, he takes it. Could
Speaker 1: the photo be deceived, that's another thing, that he's in
Speaker 1: motion of bringing it in. It's possible. And so because
Speaker 1: when they click they're they're not like you and me.
Speaker 1: They go click, click, they go right and then they
Speaker 1: pick them exactly, And so could it be in motion
Speaker 1: photo photo? That's very true. You see it all the time.
Speaker 1: It can be very deceptive. Sometimes the guy will have
Speaker 1: a look on his face, think he's piste off, and
Speaker 1: it's just because you caught him as his face writing right,
Speaker 1: that's possible. Although there isn't a quarterback anywhere in this
Speaker 1: frame that would have just handed him the ball. He
Speaker 1: might have caught it, you know, he might have caught
Speaker 1: it and is swinging around that that's conceivable. But on
Speaker 1: reading up on this, it is clear that Lashawn does
Speaker 1: some carry style um and you know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: thing you were talking about with the kicker. If if
Speaker 1: you don't really love his technique but it works, you
Speaker 1: don't fix it. Or if a batter as a real
Speaker 1: funky batting stance, what's his what's his fumble ratio? Very
Speaker 1: good question, thank you. According to Eric I read career wise,
Speaker 1: it's zero point eight, which I mean I think means
Speaker 1: zero point percent of his carries, which is not bad.
Speaker 1: That would not indicate a fumble problem. As an example,
Speaker 1: it's a lower fumble per carry career wise than Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, I don't think any of touching about them.
Speaker 1: It's pretty strong. Uh, that's pretty strong. Um he he.
Speaker 1: I think Lashawn had a couple of fumbles for the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: which was a very high profile team last year, and uh,
Speaker 1: I think they were just high profile. You have two
Speaker 1: fumbles that's all season. That's really not indicative of huge problem,
Speaker 1: although he did have a realtily low number of carries. Um.
Speaker 1: But you they just they're glaring. You're like, oh, well
Speaker 1: he probably and then the next time you see him
Speaker 1: carry it like that, you're like, well that's the problem. Well.
Speaker 1: Also also in fairness there, I think the running back
Speaker 1: that they ended up bringing up was on special teams
Speaker 1: and and all of a sudden they realized how good
Speaker 1: he was. Damian Williams, Yeah, I think maybe in any
Speaker 1: case anyways, but yeah, he yeah, I mean it's pretty
Speaker 1: clear that there are times when Lashawn carries the ball
Speaker 1: like that, and he's not the only one. So now
Speaker 1: you know, now during practice tomorrow, I'm gonna watch that.
Speaker 1: I am gonna I am I'm gonna focus on that.
Speaker 1: By the way, he references another picture the question did
Speaker 1: that he thought was great and point, I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: this one. I hadn't looked through this gallery. This picture
Speaker 1: is phenomenon. Can you see uh? Because you're very far
Speaker 1: away because the social distancing, it looks to me it's
Speaker 1: definitely Jamal Dean who's diving, and I guess that's Justin Watson. Um,
Speaker 1: so Justin Watson. It looks like even full stride. It
Speaker 1: could be Scotty Miller, but that looks like a seven.
Speaker 1: It's it'd be easier to tell if you were standing
Speaker 1: straight up, because Justin is a lot taller than but
Speaker 1: he's kind of stretched out and it looks to me
Speaker 1: like just Jamal Deine is making an incredible diving past
Speaker 1: freak up and he wants to know who won that.
Speaker 1: I didn't see this rep Personally. You can't tell because
Speaker 1: the ball is still hanging there, and maybe maybe the
Speaker 1: receiver did catch it. In any case, I will say
Speaker 1: that's an interesting question he's asking. But out of fifty
Speaker 1: six photos and asking who watched this, and that there's
Speaker 1: just so much going on at practice that a lot
Speaker 1: of times you're not looking, you're looking at different things
Speaker 1: depending on what you're I would take it as a compliment, Jeff.
Speaker 1: It means the question believes that in this case me.
Speaker 1: But it could be you was standing there absorbing everything
Speaker 1: and remembers everything well, which that's not the case. But
Speaker 1: I think I would have rema ever this play if
Speaker 1: I had seen it. The photographer probably doesn't even remember it.
Speaker 1: What a fantastic picture. That it's number forty five out
Speaker 1: of fifty six on August six. If you want to
Speaker 1: check out some we've got some great We've got some
Speaker 1: good buccaneer shooters, there's no question. Yeah, and and action
Speaker 1: photography that's not easy to do. Nope. So um, this
Speaker 1: is an impressive shot. And thank you for the question.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how you answer it in
Speaker 1: the mail bag pretty much the same way I just did,
Speaker 1: and I'll use some of your points to maybe give
Speaker 1: you a little credit. So that's it. That's our questions
Speaker 1: for the week. Fans. Remember we love your questions. You
Speaker 1: can send them into us at salty Dogs. Salty Dogs
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Speaker 1: there right after the B. Put it all together? Where
Speaker 1: do you got winning? Don't forget that dot NFL dot
Speaker 1: com part. That's the hard point. We just really have
Speaker 1: complicated emails here. But that's that's the way it is.
Speaker 1: Are you done? I'm done, Jeff, all right, I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to the way you're gonna put it. Are you
Speaker 1: done well? I don't know. Done down there? Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know because sometimes you know, like I don't know
Speaker 1: my questions you have. Now that's it. That's all the questions.
Speaker 1: And this is the third final segments. So if you'd
Speaker 1: like to take us out, since you did, thanks for listening.
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