Speaker 1: I look like an Asian daby. It looks like an
Speaker 1: Asian baby when I was born. We're all Asian babies.
Speaker 1: And then we we we evolved or devolved into something else.
Speaker 1: White people, you're the devolvers. Everybody else. You evolved, your
Speaker 1: your charges are white people. Y'all are y'all are whatever
Speaker 1: plankton is. I don't know together, white people in your veils,
Speaker 1: racist money stuff. You can't tell me. Yep, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
Speaker 1: to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the
Speaker 1: podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of
Speaker 1: black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove that
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams plastic surgery was not made from her own skin,
Speaker 1: but instead from the dead cheek meat of Louis Armstrong.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's not a BBL, Ladies and gentlemen, that
Speaker 1: is an SBL, a sachemal butt lift. And I am
Speaker 1: going to do everything I can to prove that to
Speaker 1: be true. I did you know sometimes I come up
Speaker 1: with these, uh, these introductions, and they are clever, and
Speaker 1: they are with him. This one feels like a weird reach,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm desperate, folks, I'm running out of black
Speaker 1: people to make fun of and and accused of doing
Speaker 1: horrible things out in the world. But you know that's
Speaker 1: I think that's a symptom of doing this for as
Speaker 1: long as I've done it. And and I won't apologize
Speaker 1: to pieces of Ship. You'll get what you get, That's
Speaker 1: what I always say. You know who won't get what
Speaker 1: she gets? She gets better than what what she gets.
Speaker 1: I don't know what this means, but she is fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's my guest today, My god damn test today is lovely.
Speaker 1: She's wonderful, she is hilarious, she's all the all the
Speaker 1: affirmations that one would want to have and give to
Speaker 1: another person. She's great and and you know her work.
Speaker 1: She has a brand new comedy special called love Joy.
Speaker 1: It's on Peacock. You need to go watch that. Ships
Speaker 1: so funny. And she has an album out called Yell Joy,
Speaker 1: and that's available everywhere, not just Peacock. So you know
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta go searching as hard as you probably
Speaker 1: do when you go looking for ship on Peacock. Anyway,
Speaker 1: She's give it up for my guest miss Joy l
Speaker 1: John Stay. Oh my goodness, I'm just so happy right now.
Speaker 1: I'm smiling cheek to cheek, like just the epitome of
Speaker 1: black boy Joy. I'm loving watching you nerd out. This
Speaker 1: is so fantastic. Yes, this is the work that I do.
Speaker 1: This is this is why I leave my baby uh
Speaker 1: to go to your minute to go Accuse Wendy Williams
Speaker 1: of digging up a dead man's grave so that she
Speaker 1: could change her body. Yeah, I mean I want to
Speaker 1: put it past her. She's a Jersey girl. We could
Speaker 1: be quite ruthless at times. Hey, who cares if it's
Speaker 1: up for grabs. But look, before we get into the
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, this is actually I'm truly just curious. Where
Speaker 1: do you stand in the whole Wendy of it all?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a Wendy fan? Do you do
Speaker 1: you subscribe to to the Wendy verse? I am a
Speaker 1: Wendy stand Okay. I grew up in New Jersey, and
Speaker 1: when she was on the radio in New Jersey, she
Speaker 1: was that chick like me, and my mother used to
Speaker 1: listen to her in the car. My mother loved talk
Speaker 1: radio and I would beg for her to play music
Speaker 1: so our our compromise was listening to Wendy Williams. So,
Speaker 1: I mean when the when the Windy Houston interview came out,
Speaker 1: like all when all those things came out, we were
Speaker 1: listening to it in the car, like what the hell
Speaker 1: it's going on? And when she got her show, like
Speaker 1: that's me and my mom's thing. We watch it together.
Speaker 1: Oh man. Well, we feel very differently about Manby Williams
Speaker 1: in my household, but I respect that I'm from so
Speaker 1: you know, and I totally get it. I mean, she
Speaker 1: is absolutely ridiculous, but I loves yes, absolute monster. I
Speaker 1: will I will claim that, and I love it. I'm
Speaker 1: like the people who love Kanye. I get it, okay
Speaker 1: and get it. I can see that that we we
Speaker 1: all have a person. We dig our heels in four
Speaker 1: and we're like, no, I don't, I don't care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can go back on tour sure. And that's how
Speaker 1: I feel about Join Maxwell. I love her work. No,
Speaker 1: I'm joking. This is the out of get Canceled podcast.
Speaker 1: I will say that that the Windy interview that she
Speaker 1: did with Judge Mathis remains one of the funniest things
Speaker 1: that I I've ever seen, just him calling her a crackhead,
Speaker 1: her admitting to be a crackhead, but then also being like,
Speaker 1: but you're still like cheating on your wife and like
Speaker 1: a bad guy, like you're not, dude. Yeah, That's why
Speaker 1: I love her so much because she's was honest. Like
Speaker 1: That's why I love George Carlin, because he's like, I
Speaker 1: did drugs. This is who I am. That's why I
Speaker 1: never trusted Bill Cosby because he told someone not to curse,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you're telling other people not to curse.
Speaker 1: That was weird to me as a child. And how
Speaker 1: about also don't rape? But it was a cussing that
Speaker 1: got you up board though, come on, man, So I
Speaker 1: love how honest she is. All right, well, I'm learning
Speaker 1: a lot today, joe Yale. But you know what, we
Speaker 1: we don't have time to talk Wendy all day because
Speaker 1: you came with a conspiracy theory that's gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of bridges burned. It's gonna upset a lot of
Speaker 1: folks out in the world. We've done, We've done an
Speaker 1: episode or two about this this lady, but none is
Speaker 1: I'm not I would argue none no topics as provocative
Speaker 1: as the one that you've chosen today. You said, my
Speaker 1: mama told me Beyonce was never pregnant. Uh. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean when I saw that on the list of conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: it absolutely jumped out to me because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's something I truly believe. That's something I truly believe.
Speaker 1: I am not so certain that she delivered Blue Ivy.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing about it. It's okay. It's okay
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of women who have had miscarriages.
Speaker 1: That's what I think happened. I think she had a
Speaker 1: miscarriage and then maybe had a surrogate involved and was
Speaker 1: able to deliver the baby. Because black women, the statistics
Speaker 1: in this country of our pregnancy terrible. Serena William's almost
Speaker 1: died giving birth. It's like not easy for us. So
Speaker 1: my evidence was that one interview she did where she
Speaker 1: sat down and her summing dancing in. I said, girl,
Speaker 1: that is an absolute prosthetic because the way she sat down.
Speaker 1: You know, you've you've met a pregnant woman recently, I
Speaker 1: met one. You've met one when they are that pregnant
Speaker 1: in the third trimester, They're not sitting down ask first
Speaker 1: like that. Frankly, my wife did stop sitting down at
Speaker 1: a certain point and would just sort of fall backwards
Speaker 1: and hope that something was there to catch her, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like there wasn't a careful sitting
Speaker 1: as much as just a desperate wanting for comfort, a
Speaker 1: PLoP down. And I have a huge family. I people
Speaker 1: call me the baby whisper. I'm amazing with baby. Well
Speaker 1: you can have mine, keep going. I will ship the
Speaker 1: baby over. And I know pregnant women and pregnant women
Speaker 1: in the third trimester just don't go to sit down
Speaker 1: like that. And when the stomach caved in, I was like,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. And it's just a fun, delicious conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: It's just so fun and meaty. I like a good
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. I hold a few. Okay, well, well first
Speaker 1: let's just start by saying it's fun now until the
Speaker 1: hive comes for you. But that's that's hey, enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1: You have an hour and a half freedom and then
Speaker 1: eventually everything is gonna be canceled for you, and that's
Speaker 1: that's where you'll be at. And I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: this to the hive. I love your leader, I really do.
Speaker 1: We were born the same year the same month, both virgos.
Speaker 1: I love your leader. I think she's amazing. I think
Speaker 1: she did give birth to the twins. I think that
Speaker 1: she worked her as through a pregnancy and did you
Speaker 1: know everything she's done in that moment when she sat
Speaker 1: down in that interview Homegrow when one pregnant. So you're
Speaker 1: you're saying a few things that I think are are
Speaker 1: really important here that that we we gotta dig into.
Speaker 1: So number one, let's let's clarify for our listeners. The
Speaker 1: interview you're referring to. She went on a A morning
Speaker 1: Noah's an evening talk show. Excuse me, Australia's Sunday Night
Speaker 1: is what it was called. And Beyonce goes to do
Speaker 1: this interview while pregnant with in theory Blue Ivy allegedly pregnant.
Speaker 1: She sits down and as she sits down, Number one,
Speaker 1: what you're explaining is she sits down in a way
Speaker 1: that doesn't feel like a person who would be as
Speaker 1: pregnant as she appears to be. And then on top
Speaker 1: of that, in sitting down, her stomach seems to sort
Speaker 1: of avalanche into itself. It sort of becomes concave. Pick second,
Speaker 1: come on, and then pops back out. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: like a coke bottle you squeeze too hard, And that
Speaker 1: then launched the conspiracy theory that we're talking to and spend.
Speaker 1: I think it's been years of people continuously accusing her
Speaker 1: of having falsified her pregnancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And and
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I feel like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: shame with the potential thought that I had of her
Speaker 1: having a surrogate. For some reason, that's shameful for women
Speaker 1: these days, are friend Chell, butoh was able to have
Speaker 1: surrogate and she's open about it because, you know, been
Speaker 1: very articulate about her experience. Yis, Yeah, because women need
Speaker 1: to understand that. But it's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: I just I just I just wish she would be
Speaker 1: able to be honest about it. You know, that would
Speaker 1: be cool for me if Beyonce was just like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is what I did. The other part that I
Speaker 1: think is really interesting and sort of what you presented,
Speaker 1: because they're the phrasing of it as we presented. It
Speaker 1: may not even be the correct phrasing that you believe,
Speaker 1: because at least in your argument, you believe she had
Speaker 1: a miss ariage, so she was pregnant. It just wasn't
Speaker 1: that she took that baby to full terms. I think
Speaker 1: what you're arguing, yes, I believe this is in my
Speaker 1: educated guest hypothesis brain, and that she actually was pregnant
Speaker 1: in that moment that that MTV Video Music Awards where
Speaker 1: she like rubbed her belly and she was all happy.
Speaker 1: I think in that moment she was pregnant, and then
Speaker 1: maybe something bad happened and then she was able to
Speaker 1: have the baby through a surrogate. However, in that moment
Speaker 1: in that video, I do not believe she was pregnant.
Speaker 1: And there's timelines. I mean, she works so hard, she
Speaker 1: works so hard, she works so hard, and to do
Speaker 1: that fully pregnant. I mean Catherine Zeita Jones, she taped
Speaker 1: Chicago while she was pregnant, and it was fully pregnant
Speaker 1: at the Academy Awards that year. That's crazy to do.
Speaker 1: Pregnant women need to sit down. Yeah. That and and
Speaker 1: to your point, not the way you're sitting Beyonce, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: learn your lesson. You sit different, girl. You gotta get
Speaker 1: into the character fully. The amount of sort of like
Speaker 1: tax that gets put on a pregnant woman's body just
Speaker 1: by by existing in the world is a fuck hunt
Speaker 1: like that. You are exhausted just walking, just doing basic
Speaker 1: everyday things. And the fact that Beyonce continued to be
Speaker 1: Beyonce the entire time that she was allegedly pregnant means
Speaker 1: that she was putting triple to quadruple the amount of
Speaker 1: tax that the average woman is putting on her body. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe she's just that capable, or maybe you did a
Speaker 1: little too much. The baby was lost and instead of
Speaker 1: just taking that il, you opted to find a different
Speaker 1: solution to said problem. And this is in no way
Speaker 1: shaming anyone. This is in no way saying anything is
Speaker 1: anyone's fault here. These are just things that happen in nature.
Speaker 1: You know. There's there's women that have done less, you know,
Speaker 1: and had miscarriages, happened things like that. So there's like,
Speaker 1: not no mockery here. I just do not believe in
Speaker 1: that video. In that video. Yeah, So so when Beyonce
Speaker 1: is rubbing her belly at the v M as you're
Speaker 1: bought in, You're like, hell, yeah, Queen Bee's pregnant, We're
Speaker 1: we're doing this, and then it's the video that breaks
Speaker 1: you or is there something in between okay, And then
Speaker 1: do you become and this is this is where I
Speaker 1: think all of conspiracy theory gets fascinating. Do you then
Speaker 1: become like a person on the street waving a fucking
Speaker 1: flag telling people about this or you just sort of like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep this to myself. I'm a mama fucking business.
Speaker 1: But that ain't no goddamn baby inside belly. Listen, I'm
Speaker 1: sometimes grassroots with my conspiracy theories, with my gossip. I
Speaker 1: love to have conversations with people. It's it's a fun
Speaker 1: dinner conversation to have just bust out with, hey, we
Speaker 1: never landed on the moon. It's just fun to see
Speaker 1: how other people feel about this. Is one of those
Speaker 1: when you're like, you know, you're in a room full
Speaker 1: of gaze, Hey, guys, was Beyonce pregnant? And then the
Speaker 1: room just erupts into gossip and chatty of things we
Speaker 1: can't necessarily tweet. Yeah, you don't want to take this
Speaker 1: to the inner webs? You you you want to keep
Speaker 1: this in a in a dinner party setting. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean it's bold enough to even put it out
Speaker 1: of the podcast. Hello be Hive, you guys are amazing.
Speaker 1: I love how you rally around. Please don't come from me.
Speaker 1: But if you do, watch the special and uh, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna come for joy, l at least come for her.
Speaker 1: In the comments on Peacock, I assume Peacock has some
Speaker 1: section that they allow you to say hateful things there
Speaker 1: and put little bumble bees. Do that ship there. Don't
Speaker 1: do it on miscellaneous places that don't benefit her streams exactly. Yes,
Speaker 1: put a whole bunch of bees. Bees are cool. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: we funk with bees. Uh, put them under me? Love
Speaker 1: joy on Peacock. That's my advertising voice. Okay, I love it.
Speaker 1: So you aren't sold on Beyonce being pregnant. I guess
Speaker 1: my question And this is where I've always sort of
Speaker 1: been fascinated with this conspiracy theory story, all of it.
Speaker 1: Why what what do you think the motivation is here? Like,
Speaker 1: what is the the ultimate goal on her in to
Speaker 1: keep this part of it private? Because to your point,
Speaker 1: she could have been groundbreaking in this situation. She could
Speaker 1: have been a leader and really like broken this whole
Speaker 1: thing open and said I am the one who's going
Speaker 1: to start this whole surrogate game off. In terms of
Speaker 1: like certainly celebrity culture in mon contemporary celebrity culture. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's happened before this. Yeah, you know that that
Speaker 1: whole black Woman's Superman superwoman thing that we have to
Speaker 1: be superheroes at all times with everything. You can't cry,
Speaker 1: we can't show any vulnerability. So it's like, if I
Speaker 1: am and I am this magnificent being, I should also
Speaker 1: be able to do the most feminine thing possible, which
Speaker 1: is having a baby, right, you know, And I feel
Speaker 1: like society puts that shame on us. I mean that's
Speaker 1: why I'm such an advocate for women's reproductive rights. I
Speaker 1: think we need to talk about it on all stages
Speaker 1: of the platform, and like having a surrogacy, having IVF,
Speaker 1: needing help to get pregnant, things like that are things
Speaker 1: we need to be able to discuss more because it
Speaker 1: happens to so many women. Right, So you're saying that
Speaker 1: that Beyonce in particular is because of the way that
Speaker 1: she's sort of been elevated socially, there's no chance of
Speaker 1: her showing this level of sort of like honesty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and weakness almost seems like an unfair word because to
Speaker 1: your point, it is so common that it should just
Speaker 1: be the way that we we talk about what this
Speaker 1: journey is that Like, you know, even with my wife
Speaker 1: and I, it took us a year to be able
Speaker 1: to get pregnant. It's not it's not always like an
Speaker 1: easy process. And that's not a reflection of health or
Speaker 1: capability or care or love or any of those things.
Speaker 1: It truly is just human bodies are weird and fucked up,
Speaker 1: and sometimes ours don't do the things we asked them
Speaker 1: to do. And so you're saying Beyonce just isn't in
Speaker 1: a position to be able to show that vulnerability, even
Speaker 1: though it is so much the human experience. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I kind of feel like if you're going to
Speaker 1: the extent of putting a prosthetic stomach on for an interview,
Speaker 1: that is an ability to be like, let's just not
Speaker 1: deal with it, which is another reason why I'm a
Speaker 1: huge advocate therapy. Everyone we gotta deal with our stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's tough to deal with stuff in the open.
Speaker 1: But when you're a public figure, you know it is
Speaker 1: you know, you do what you do, but everybody's not able.
Speaker 1: I mean, how old was she at that point? She
Speaker 1: was still in her early thirties, right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: Blue Blue Ives what twenty nine now, so she was
Speaker 1: in Yeah, Blue Ives. You know, Blue ivees out. You're
Speaker 1: running a fortune at this point, so basically a purchase
Speaker 1: both of us. I just feel like, right now we forty.
Speaker 1: So it's like, Okay, a forty year old person would
Speaker 1: be able to be more open about something like that
Speaker 1: versus a thirty year old you know. And I will
Speaker 1: say that that even more to that point, Beyonce has
Speaker 1: gone through uh, sort of a renaissance, if you will,
Speaker 1: in terms of her her openness and transparency as a
Speaker 1: human being. That for years she was sort of a
Speaker 1: bit of a robot, a stilted human being who sort
Speaker 1: of went out and danced and saying, but we never
Speaker 1: really got a much of a look behind the curtain
Speaker 1: as to who this person is. And then through the
Speaker 1: years she has slowly become more and more a person
Speaker 1: who's like, at least willing to show a level of
Speaker 1: vulnerability as much as a person who was built that
Speaker 1: way can at least look, it looks exhausting to be Beyonce.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I don't care for one bit.
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be real. I would much rather be Rihanna.
Speaker 1: That bitch looks like she have fun. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was in I was in a hallway while she
Speaker 1: was in a room smoking some weed, and I was
Speaker 1: just wanting to be in her presence. She's cool as ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she just she does what she wants, She wears
Speaker 1: what she wants. That when they ask your questions, she
Speaker 1: gives the answer that popped in her head, not the
Speaker 1: one that like is six chess moves ahead of wherever
Speaker 1: she might get in trouble. Pageant answer, Yeah, the pageant answer.
Speaker 1: She's Rocky. We could all, we'd all enjoy fucking asap Rocky.
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful man, It's it's all. It's all going
Speaker 1: well for who sap Rocky? Who wouldn't want to fuck
Speaker 1: a sap Rocky? Except for those Swedish people that he
Speaker 1: fist fought? Name the episode that who wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: fuck a sap Rocky? This episode about Beyonce is called
Speaker 1: who Wouldn't want to? I love that. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this question because I do think that this is
Speaker 1: we're we're talking about this, this transparency, this vulnerability that
Speaker 1: Beyonce isn't able to show back. Then do you think
Speaker 1: there's a world now where she could come forward and say, hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: remember back when I was pregnant and I wasn't. I wasn't,
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's better for us to now
Speaker 1: know a different truth in this. Can Beyonce I do
Speaker 1: that or does she have to just keep going with
Speaker 1: this the story that she's built. I believe Beyonce can
Speaker 1: do whatever she wants because she is one of those
Speaker 1: Negroes that has I say negro that has like exalted herself.
Speaker 1: She's exalted and it's like she can honestly pretty much
Speaker 1: do no wrong at this point, which is a very
Speaker 1: pageant existence where it's like she always says the right
Speaker 1: thing her Her publicity gets her ugly photos off the
Speaker 1: internet like stuff like that. So if she was to
Speaker 1: be like this is Beyonce being vulnerable, go, I think
Speaker 1: she could completely because she'd have a whole team construct
Speaker 1: the press relief and the interview with Oprah and when
Speaker 1: she's gonna cry and it to be like she'd have
Speaker 1: a whole team and they could freaking change the world
Speaker 1: with that ship. They would heal so many women. Damn.
Speaker 1: That's heavy because it it also would mean and maybe
Speaker 1: you you feel this as an artist. I think there's
Speaker 1: something beautiful about that, right that like she could she
Speaker 1: could liberate in a sense, so many people from like
Speaker 1: this this uh sadness, this frustration with what it means
Speaker 1: to lose a child or to not be able to
Speaker 1: get pregnant, blah blah blah blah blah. But then there's
Speaker 1: the other hard part about it, which is once you
Speaker 1: become the face of some ship, you you are the
Speaker 1: face of some ship, and you can't then walk other
Speaker 1: decisions backwards or you have to explain every decision you
Speaker 1: make in relation to that thing that you decided you
Speaker 1: were going to be the face stuff. I think it
Speaker 1: depends on the person, you know, because I'm I'm fine
Speaker 1: with you know, I work in abortion rights. I'm fine
Speaker 1: with that being somebody thinking about me and thinking about abortion.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. But I feel like Beyonce has
Speaker 1: done so much that she that would just be an
Speaker 1: aspect of you know whoa this crazy of something Beyonce did.
Speaker 1: But also you know, single ladies. Yeah, it's tough. It's
Speaker 1: it's hard to predict because it makes me think about
Speaker 1: like Jesse Williams, right, we love Jesse Williams. For the
Speaker 1: three years that Jesse Williams was married to a black
Speaker 1: lady and saying all the right things about black liberation
Speaker 1: and and what we need to do as a community.
Speaker 1: He was, Oh, he was our beautiful blue eyed speaker
Speaker 1: of the black house. And then this nigger had an
Speaker 1: affair or and not. I don't even know if he
Speaker 1: had an affair. Frankly, I know for I know for
Speaker 1: certain that he and his wife went through a a
Speaker 1: tumultuous period, broke up, and then Jesse very quickly found
Speaker 1: himself in the arms oh white woman, but then also
Speaker 1: other women. But that was enough for the Internet to
Speaker 1: then decide that everything that this man had earned was
Speaker 1: was now exempt because he because he wasn't good to
Speaker 1: his black queen. And it's like, that's not how that
Speaker 1: should work. The nigga was still spinning bars. He he
Speaker 1: just got some sign pussy and that's that's neither here
Speaker 1: nor there. I mean from the female perspective, Look, dude,
Speaker 1: and he's talking all that ship and then do some
Speaker 1: basic nigga ship. That's some basic bit ship. He did
Speaker 1: like you you coming and went in with this exaltation.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do all that, you can also
Speaker 1: be fallible and and know that, Hey, I'm saying all
Speaker 1: this tough ship, but also I am a fallible nigga,
Speaker 1: because then when you come out with that level of fallibility,
Speaker 1: it's like, come on, man, but he's a black ship.
Speaker 1: He's a blue eyed angel, do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: what was he supposed to do? Have a regular you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just cheat with like some regular
Speaker 1: Schmegenler person. No, he's gonna go he's been with this
Speaker 1: woman all these years. He's gonna go do some wild ship.
Speaker 1: So like, I I get what you're saying, but it's
Speaker 1: like this motherfucker's going the route that them them gorgeous
Speaker 1: little you know docs in his face allow him to go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they are dots, They're beautiful, beautiful dots. And I would look,
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I've never really met him. So he walked
Speaker 1: past me at a party once. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, just all it is, you get it.
Speaker 1: As long as you get it, then we can get it,
Speaker 1: we can forget. And I don't envy it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be in that level of like humongous stuff happening.
Speaker 1: And then when you make one mess up, everyone's against you.
Speaker 1: I like, I want to be a sidekick, No, for sure.
Speaker 1: I I've thought about this a lot, and I don't
Speaker 1: think given what I do, I'm ever interested in becoming
Speaker 1: the champion of anybody's version of social justice. And that's
Speaker 1: not a lack of care. It's not a lack of
Speaker 1: want for empowering and bettering situations for for the people
Speaker 1: around me. But I still want to be funny. I
Speaker 1: still want to be problematic. I still want to be
Speaker 1: able to talk my ship. And the second that I
Speaker 1: go and stand on somebody's soapbox, I am no longer
Speaker 1: able to talk the same ship that I was talking before,
Speaker 1: and Papa can't have that. I need you know, Papa,
Speaker 1: don't take no mess. I feel the same way about
Speaker 1: abortion because I can be a stand for abortion because
Speaker 1: abortion checks be messy. Sometimes you're not expecting I'm messy, bro,
Speaker 1: abortion people right, I drink bitch. I've read that on
Speaker 1: this one outside of playing their biorhood, you know. Basically,
Speaker 1: that's why we hear. I love that. All right, We're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We'll be back with more joy
Speaker 1: Johnson and more. My mama told me and we need
Speaker 1: are bad Kenny Lendon nigga a pencil. Yeah, we're back
Speaker 1: here with more Joy Johnson more. My mama told me.
Speaker 1: We're still talking about Beyonce and the possibility that she
Speaker 1: was only uh pregnant at a point and then not
Speaker 1: pregnant anymore with a young Blue Ivy and Blue Ivy
Speaker 1: in fact maybe a born of a surrogate. Do you
Speaker 1: think Blue Ivy knows? Do you think that they've covered
Speaker 1: it up so much that they they've even tricked Blue
Speaker 1: Ivy into keeping into being unaware of this secret it?
Speaker 1: Or is it like Blue Ivy knows but they've trained
Speaker 1: her to shut the funk up about it. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on in that house. Um, it seems
Speaker 1: like they wouldn't tell her, but didn't The Internet is exists,
Speaker 1: and you know the kid has a phone, But then
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even put it above them to have like
Speaker 1: a special phone and a person who controls what she
Speaker 1: sees on her phone. Like they can. They have all
Speaker 1: the money, they can do whatever they want to do,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised Ivy wouldn't know if she
Speaker 1: was adopted, if they didn't want her to know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and that's the that's that power that that being
Speaker 1: a billionaire has. I guess is that, like you know,
Speaker 1: most of us we access the Internet, but the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: they have control over h and at least a corner
Speaker 1: of it. And I'm sure that corner is the corner
Speaker 1: that they got Blue Ivy sort of tapped into. Yes,
Speaker 1: they say, on Beyonce's Internet. That's what people say. You
Speaker 1: didn't come on Beyonce's Internet. On Beyonce's Internet. Beyonce had that.
Speaker 1: Other parts of the Internet, it's up for grabs, but
Speaker 1: Beyonce's Internet, that baby came out her body. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's jump into some of this research because I do
Speaker 1: think some of this, if nothing else, is going to
Speaker 1: help clarify some of the potential holes in the story
Speaker 1: that is Beyonce a giving birth to Blue Ivy. So
Speaker 1: the rumors of Blue Ivy or excuse me, a Beyonce
Speaker 1: not in fact being pregnant technically started August two eleven
Speaker 1: at that wonderful performance at the v M A S
Speaker 1: where Beyonce does a bunch of dances and and sings
Speaker 1: a bunch of songs, and then right at the end,
Speaker 1: pops her jacket open, rubs her belly, and we all go, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's a that's a goddamn baby in there.
Speaker 1: And she smiled and jay Z cheered and Kanye rubbed
Speaker 1: his back and they are still friends back then, So
Speaker 1: it was all a beautiful moment that none of us
Speaker 1: could have predicted would ever go awry. You know, remember
Speaker 1: when it was they were best friends, watched the Throne
Speaker 1: was out. It was a beautiful time. Such a great album.
Speaker 1: Great album. However, this happens in August. In September, she
Speaker 1: does an interview after where she claimed that she was
Speaker 1: due in February, which technically at that point would have
Speaker 1: made her four months pregnant at the VMA's. But then
Speaker 1: for the video shoot for Countdown, which was one of
Speaker 1: the songs on the album that she was releasing as
Speaker 1: a pregnant lady, she claimed that she was six months pregnant,
Speaker 1: which means and that video shoot was basically shot within
Speaker 1: the same month of the VMA's and that would have
Speaker 1: made her five months on the v m A stage
Speaker 1: and ultimately would have actually turned into the correct math
Speaker 1: for Blue I V January seventh, do day if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. So Beyonce went from being four months pregnant
Speaker 1: to six months pregnant in a single month by her
Speaker 1: own explanation, which some claim this faulty math is reflective
Speaker 1: of her trying to create an illusion around her pregnancy. Wow,
Speaker 1: I've never I've never even dug this deep. Again, this
Speaker 1: is why my family make it worth Why, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't leave your family to to dig with one
Speaker 1: of them plastic shovels. You gotta get in with the
Speaker 1: medal joint and put your hell. Yeah, but I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts in relation to this mischief around
Speaker 1: the months. Do you think that this at this point
Speaker 1: is something in fact mischievous or do you think this
Speaker 1: was just a an error of a woman who didn't
Speaker 1: graduate from high school whoa, yeah, we go, let's turn
Speaker 1: all the way up. That's hilarious because they're Okay, there
Speaker 1: are some pregnant women who are not on top of
Speaker 1: their days. However, I know most pregnant women that I
Speaker 1: know are like, I am one hundred and twenty two
Speaker 1: days pregnant because of the fact that they are like,
Speaker 1: get this thing out of me, you know, and they
Speaker 1: get this thing out of me starts in the first
Speaker 1: trimester with morning sickness and you know, back inches or whatever,
Speaker 1: your feet growing, like all that stuff that happens in
Speaker 1: each trimester. So it is interesting because I was wondering
Speaker 1: at what point would she have been showing, And a
Speaker 1: lot of women aren't showing in that first trimester, but
Speaker 1: they're a pop happens in the second, as I'm sure
Speaker 1: you experienced with your beautiful woman, lady wife, lady maam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what I call her at home woman, lady wife, woman,
Speaker 1: lady ma'am. But but that said, one of the things
Speaker 1: that that I found because we we went and shot
Speaker 1: pause during during the time that Nikki was pregnant. I
Speaker 1: left when she was not showing and then went and
Speaker 1: shot in New York for a month and a half,
Speaker 1: and by the time I got back, she fully had
Speaker 1: like a big, gass baby in there. And so there
Speaker 1: is a a sort of weird window where a baby
Speaker 1: starts to basically just grow exponentially, but before then they're
Speaker 1: just kind of like a little seed of a human being.
Speaker 1: And so in that way, four months is not necessarily
Speaker 1: indicative of being able to to show that you are
Speaker 1: pregnant always and so to the point, maybe that's a
Speaker 1: there's a possibility that by that point she was pregnant,
Speaker 1: but she had to add a little extra to that
Speaker 1: bad boy to make it, to make it show, to
Speaker 1: make it, make it show. Yeah, sometimes that happens. And
Speaker 1: it's so funny because like the women that I have known,
Speaker 1: and I actually was pregnant around the end of the
Speaker 1: second the third, the first trimester is when you know,
Speaker 1: the pants you have trouble buttoning the pants, so that
Speaker 1: would be you know, and then then the pop will
Speaker 1: happen a couple of months later. But I definitely got
Speaker 1: to the point where I couldn't button the pants as well, So,
Speaker 1: you know, it is interesting and that timeline is so interesting. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, Blue, you could have come a couple of
Speaker 1: months early. I mean a couple of weeks, a couple
Speaker 1: of months. That's that's rough. Although in studying this ship,
Speaker 1: technically I think babies can be born as early as
Speaker 1: twenty five weeks in, which is fifteen weeks early and
Speaker 1: still survive. It is challenging. They are more than likely
Speaker 1: going to have issues sort of in their DIVI because
Speaker 1: the lungs are the last thing to develop. It makes
Speaker 1: things complicated for the baby, but it is possible to
Speaker 1: survive months ahead of your quote unquote do date. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my little cousin was thirteen weeks early and she was
Speaker 1: a pound in nine ounces and had to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: she was so tiny and her mom couldn't even touch
Speaker 1: her for the first I think two months she was
Speaker 1: in the hospital, So I definitely know that as well. Well,
Speaker 1: my baby is uh, it's too big. My baby is
Speaker 1: too big. So you know, let's find a balance here, kids,
Speaker 1: let's all, let's all just agree to come out the
Speaker 1: regular size that makes every parent comfortable and uh feel
Speaker 1: comfortable sleeping at night. So here's where this countdown video
Speaker 1: and v m A video timeline gets even more complicated
Speaker 1: because she is clearly showing in the countdown video right
Speaker 1: she's we can see her pregnant belly. But then she
Speaker 1: also shot the video for Party the song featuring j Cole,
Speaker 1: although the Andre three thousand song is better, she shot
Speaker 1: that same video earlier in that month, and that video
Speaker 1: she is not showing, so within that month theoretically came
Speaker 1: to be showing in in a few weeks post Party
Speaker 1: pre v m A and then somehow maintained it through
Speaker 1: countdown and got a month more pregnant or some some
Speaker 1: math is not mathing in this situation, Dude, Internet se
Speaker 1: best man will. I will put them on any case
Speaker 1: if I need something solved, get the Internet sluice on it.
Speaker 1: That is amazing. Yeah, it's It gets even more weird
Speaker 1: because similarly, she went on vacation to Croatia the week
Speaker 1: after the v M as there's this this picture, this
Speaker 1: sort of now somewhat infamous picture of her and jay
Speaker 1: Z and Croatia where she's wearing a bikini and she
Speaker 1: is she's got a little more belly than we're used
Speaker 1: to for Beyonce, but it's not the same type of
Speaker 1: showing that we saw on the v M A stage.
Speaker 1: And this is after the VMA, so again there's a
Speaker 1: complicated math happening here where a lady still kind of
Speaker 1: has abs and also it's poking out and it's like
Speaker 1: a bitch that that just might be a little too
Speaker 1: much to Zeekee sauce. That's not necessarily a baby. Also,
Speaker 1: I have practiced it before, and I think most girls have.
Speaker 1: You can push your stomach out to make yourself look
Speaker 1: a level of pregnant we've all done it before, a
Speaker 1: little fantasies in the mirror as children, so you can
Speaker 1: make yourself look a level of pregnant. And she was
Speaker 1: showing in the MS a little push out and and
Speaker 1: fellas you can do it too, believe in yourselves, poke
Speaker 1: those bellies out. We're still not challenge that the little
Speaker 1: Nasa child, the little Nasax challenge one am my hotel,
Speaker 1: my kids. I don't know. I did just let the
Speaker 1: gay boy live. I don't know how about that he's
Speaker 1: gay child? All right. So here's here's where things get
Speaker 1: even more fascinating because all of this math is is
Speaker 1: sort of like complicated. But and you know, for a
Speaker 1: while everybody is accusing Beyonce faking it blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But the day that Beyonce went to well,
Speaker 1: let me not skip ahead, because I think some of
Speaker 1: this is actually better in the order that I have it.
Speaker 1: I was trying to stay chronological, but we're gonna do
Speaker 1: a little bit of a time skip here because most
Speaker 1: people one of the the sort of grounding arguments that
Speaker 1: a lot of people make with Beyonce not actually delivering
Speaker 1: the child that she claimed to have delivered it is
Speaker 1: the fact that we've never seen Beyonce in any version
Speaker 1: of pregnancy that wasn't three to six months type pregnant.
Speaker 1: In that those earlier stages of pregnancy, we're not even
Speaker 1: really seeing a full baby bump with the blue ivy
Speaker 1: of it all. It was more just sort of like
Speaker 1: the soft bump, the belly pokes, all the things that
Speaker 1: you're referring to. And so years and years went by
Speaker 1: everybody saying she never had this baby. And then in
Speaker 1: two years after all of these accusations started, Beyonce released
Speaker 1: an HBO documentary Maybe Remember It Life Is But a Dream,
Speaker 1: where she finally showed a number of pregnancy photos. But again,
Speaker 1: those pregnancy photos she showed, we're all very early stage
Speaker 1: pregnancy and could have easily been gas from too much.
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Speaker 1: I'm just reading the stuff they wrote. That's one of
Speaker 1: those words I never really know how to say. To
Speaker 1: Zeke Coanga Boulevard. Yeah, I mean, you are just making
Speaker 1: it even more interesting now. I didn't even know all
Speaker 1: of these timeline, Yes, so it seems to me that
Speaker 1: these life is but a dream and sort of this
Speaker 1: reveal of these pregnancy photos was was in part driven
Speaker 1: by a want for Beyonce too correct these sort of
Speaker 1: rumors that had been floating around out in the universe, right,
Speaker 1: and she even went as far to address, which is
Speaker 1: a rare thing for Beyonce. She she never addresses her
Speaker 1: rumors directly in most cases, but in the case of
Speaker 1: this pregnancy thing, she even went out of her way
Speaker 1: to say that she thought that these rumors were were
Speaker 1: crazy and that what would dry. She respects pregnant women
Speaker 1: too much to sort of like make light of the
Speaker 1: work that they do and sort of like the the
Speaker 1: beauty of the the experience. So she went in and
Speaker 1: said some shit about this, which is not the way
Speaker 1: Beyonce behaves. Wow, she's like, listen to me, listen, who's pregnant. Goddamnit?
Speaker 1: He said, I didn't funk that, bitch, I'll kill you.
Speaker 1: That is amazing. I mean, Also, thou dost protest too much? Drute,
Speaker 1: We're doing a lot here. Once again, like I said,
Speaker 1: if she's gonna do something, she's going to have a team.
Speaker 1: There's going to be you know, documentary is gonna be
Speaker 1: a dramatic reading, poetry, music underneath the words, crying photos.
Speaker 1: She doesn't. She's the best and so and that's where
Speaker 1: where I think the Beyonce of it all gets so complicated, right,
Speaker 1: is that like there isn't our meant to be made?
Speaker 1: That maybe she just saved these photos because to your point,
Speaker 1: she's a she's a woman of of gravitas, right, she
Speaker 1: enjoys the entire spectacle of it. So she wants these
Speaker 1: photos to be special. She wants to keep her privacy.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of arguments to be made. But on
Speaker 1: the ground floor, we're asking to see these pictures. You
Speaker 1: ain't showing it to us. And then two years later,
Speaker 1: the best you can come up with is your belly
Speaker 1: button poking out a little bit, and that ain't quite
Speaker 1: enough to justify the weight. I mean, we could all
Speaker 1: photoshop a picture, like we know some talented photoshoppers that
Speaker 1: I know, teenagers that can photoshop a picture to make
Speaker 1: you look pregnant. So um sure, okay, uh, if that's
Speaker 1: your ministry, let's get even messier with this whole thing.
Speaker 1: All right, here's where it's even messier is that on
Speaker 1: the day of the baby's delivery, beyond saying, jay Z
Speaker 1: paid one point three million dollars to secure and redecorate
Speaker 1: the entire fourth floor of the Nick You wing of
Speaker 1: Manhattan's Lenox Hill Hospital, they removed all doctors and staff
Speaker 1: at a certain point, and even taped over security cameras. Moreover,
Speaker 1: at least one woman has come forward claiming to be
Speaker 1: Beyonce surrogate. Wow, I like how you said, and also
Speaker 1: the answer, Well, I don't know if this is the answer.
Speaker 1: Let me be clear. The main person who's come forward
Speaker 1: claiming to be Beyonce, Sarah be claiming to be the
Speaker 1: quote unquote real carrier of Blue Ivy, also claimed to
Speaker 1: be the legal mother of Northwest Prince George and all
Speaker 1: three of Michael Jackson's kids. You better listen. If you
Speaker 1: are going to have a full psychotic episode, make let
Speaker 1: it go deep. I like a delusion of grand jury.
Speaker 1: That's amazing because I think jay Z and Beyonce are
Speaker 1: good business people and they're gonna pay the people to
Speaker 1: keep the secrets. Yeah, I've heard she doesn't pay her dancers. However, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're getta pay people you want to keep the secrets
Speaker 1: the dancers are, you're doing them a favorite secrets and dance?
Speaker 1: Will you do it all up? And please? And so
Speaker 1: I yeah, I believe they would pay those people very
Speaker 1: well to sign a simple nondisclosure agreement. Sure. And and
Speaker 1: what's fascinating again is being is removing the entire staff
Speaker 1: from this area when you know it's an entire floor.
Speaker 1: There's no possibility that it's not like this is a
Speaker 1: rotating door. These doctors easily could have just been blocked
Speaker 1: from the area, but they were like, no, we can't
Speaker 1: risk the possibility that anybody can be seen coming in
Speaker 1: or out, which means that they have something a little
Speaker 1: bigger to hide. And maybe the bigger thing was just
Speaker 1: we don't want people to know what our baby looks like.
Speaker 1: But having seen enough newborns, the motherfucker's ain't distinguishable. You
Speaker 1: don't see a new born. They could have stolen my
Speaker 1: baby at the hospital and I wouldn't have known the
Speaker 1: difference the whole. One of my favorite movies, Big Business,
Speaker 1: from the eighties, is about people not knowing what new
Speaker 1: boards look like. Now you can get switched at birth.
Speaker 1: They're all just fattened and tired, they're not doing nothing.
Speaker 1: Here's my favorite part of the woman who claims to
Speaker 1: be all of these people's mother. My favorite part. Her
Speaker 1: name is Tina Seals. And one of the things that
Speaker 1: Tina Seals says, specifically in relation to the Kanye West
Speaker 1: of it all. Remember she claims to be the mother
Speaker 1: of Northwest. She went out to say that she was
Speaker 1: willing to forego any financial settlement with Kanye West if
Speaker 1: he agreed to a record deal for her twenty two
Speaker 1: year old son. Look, you gotta put cards on the table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want you to want something. If you are coming
Speaker 1: out with these statement, I want you to want something.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to just be like, hey, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to let everyone know no, Kanye, I would
Speaker 1: like money and a deal. That's a great point. And
Speaker 1: that was my issue with that lady who said Ussher
Speaker 1: gave her her pies, was like, what's your goal here, bitch?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm cool with you coming forward and accused an
Speaker 1: Usher of giving you herpies. I believe Usher has herpies,
Speaker 1: But what's the goal? What are we doing here? Like?
Speaker 1: Where do you benefit from this? Now? We just all
Speaker 1: think you got hurt pies exactly exactly. And that's where
Speaker 1: like a lot of the women you know come out
Speaker 1: and say things have happened to them in the Me
Speaker 1: too movement, people will be like, oh, but they did
Speaker 1: it to get to get what? Yeah? What? Like I
Speaker 1: want to know what these people have gotten that has
Speaker 1: been so Great's getting out all these tweet grape pie fives,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like this, these are horrible
Speaker 1: experiences they're describing, and you guys are being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna sit front row at the Lakers game.
Speaker 1: This is fun, right. It's like, no, there's no bitifits here, dog,
Speaker 1: no benefits, no benefits. I can't even get. And that's
Speaker 1: why I'm like, Okay, if you sleep with a dude
Speaker 1: and you get a television show, like you're talking about
Speaker 1: the casting couch, I might be interested in the casting couch.
Speaker 1: If a contract is next to the couch. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have had sex for way less, right, but we signed
Speaker 1: this contract. I'm not just having sex with you with
Speaker 1: the hopes no one day you'll give me an audition.
Speaker 1: I gotta get casted first. Then I'll suck that dick.
Speaker 1: You know. There we go. So there are three things
Speaker 1: that I think we we would be remiss not to
Speaker 1: cover before we go to break because we've talked about
Speaker 1: some of the more messy details of the entire pregnancy.
Speaker 1: But what is the motive we're talking about motive now
Speaker 1: in terms of all of this stuff. And the question
Speaker 1: is what would be Beyonce's motive for sort of either
Speaker 1: faking this pregnancy or changing the the circumstances of of
Speaker 1: her baby's birth. And so I I've collected a few
Speaker 1: different motives that I would love to unpack with you now. Um,
Speaker 1: there are some people who claim that part of the
Speaker 1: motive that happened here, and this sounds similar to the
Speaker 1: one that you described, is that Beyonce may have faced
Speaker 1: fertility issues right that she she struggled with fertility, she
Speaker 1: wasn't able to keep the baby the way that she planned,
Speaker 1: and subsequently who turned to a surrogate. That then also
Speaker 1: might explain why in her second pregnancy Beyonce and jay
Speaker 1: Z have twins, which twins often are the result of
Speaker 1: medical intervention to help with women who are struggling with pregnancy.
Speaker 1: Two And basically, once you start adding all kinds of medications,
Speaker 1: chemicals ship into people's bodies, the body over produces and
Speaker 1: sometimes produces twins. That said twins do not seem based
Speaker 1: on the research that I've done to run in either
Speaker 1: Beyonce or jay Z's family, which suggests these twins either
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and God blessed y'all, or medical
Speaker 1: intervention led to the birth of these two children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a fraternal twins are an example of that, because
Speaker 1: identical twins are quote unquote accidents. Fraternal twins are usually
Speaker 1: hereditary in families, and when you are going to get
Speaker 1: IVF or some type of assistance getting pregnant, they're gonna
Speaker 1: put multiple eggs into the situation to see how many
Speaker 1: are viable. And that's why somebody might have two three
Speaker 1: flowed four five. Praise be to octo mom babies, a
Speaker 1: perfectly healthy lady who who had we we should have
Speaker 1: never questioned and definitely deserved a television show and some money.
Speaker 1: I hope she still has some, but I doubt it. Yeah. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that is an example with the twins. But I
Speaker 1: do think she was pregnant with the twin right, and
Speaker 1: I think based on that suggestion, it probably was the
Speaker 1: result of fertility support from a medical team more than
Speaker 1: it was just a natural, uh, sort of like conception
Speaker 1: of twins from she and jay Z's old penis, very
Speaker 1: old penis, very old penis. But the penis doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: It's it's sadly that the funny. Yeah, I know, right,
Speaker 1: depends on who you're talking to. But also my mother,
Speaker 1: who was a nurse, labor and delivery nurse my whole
Speaker 1: entire life, she had a theory that the twins had
Speaker 1: to have been in the Nike You because of the
Speaker 1: fact that she did not show pictures of them or
Speaker 1: any type of anything for a long time. My mother
Speaker 1: was just like, huh, I think those babies might be
Speaker 1: in the nick You. She just said it as a
Speaker 1: throwaway and went about her business. Now, I'll say this
Speaker 1: as as a recent father. My baby did not come
Speaker 1: out attractive. She came out very ugly and and quickly
Speaker 1: became cute. But I was more than willing to keep
Speaker 1: my child's photos private as soon as she can. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we just ain't gonna show people, but
Speaker 1: we'll tell them she's happy and healthy because they can't
Speaker 1: look at this. This is this is a train wreck.
Speaker 1: I hainte when people do close ups of newborns No,
Speaker 1: and newborn is being held from a distance. Yea, we
Speaker 1: are getting an up angle. Maybe just see a little
Speaker 1: bit of a land. That's how you shoot a newborn
Speaker 1: from just like Bob Ross painting. You know, no close
Speaker 1: ups on newborn. Stop that. So here's where the theories
Speaker 1: get increasingly more insane. So we started at the most
Speaker 1: simple one, fertility issues. But then there are some who
Speaker 1: say jay Z cheated on Beyonce and Beyonce opted to
Speaker 1: raise the illegitimate child from jay Z's stepping out, that
Speaker 1: this this in fact could be the child of the
Speaker 1: good hair Becky that we've heard so much about. Oh
Speaker 1: like Surree and Tom Cruise and Katie Home exactly. That's okay.
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting one that that one is pretty
Speaker 1: far on that because of the fact that Blue I
Speaker 1: v looks just like baby because well but she spent
Speaker 1: years looking just like jay Z and has just sort
Speaker 1: of she's coming to like, yeah, jay Z, yeah the baby.
Speaker 1: I was shocked because I thought Blue Ivy Jes looked
Speaker 1: like jay Z. Then I saw pictures of Beyonce and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, she looks just like Beyonce.
Speaker 1: And apparently Beyonce looks like, yeah, they had they there's
Speaker 1: a ven diagram of when they all looked alike, I guess,
Speaker 1: and now they look different. But but for a while
Speaker 1: they were, they were streaming together. So here is my
Speaker 1: personal favorite of these potential conspiracy theories. And then we'll
Speaker 1: we'll go to our final break, but the last one,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. There
Speaker 1: are some who claim that Beyonce and jay Z are
Speaker 1: in fact raising the illegitimate child of Beyonce's father. Matthew
Speaker 1: knows that when he was stepping out on Tina missed Tina,
Speaker 1: if you're nasty, then that he had a baby and
Speaker 1: was willing to to basically walk away from that child
Speaker 1: because Matthew knows apparently is a piece of ship, and
Speaker 1: Beyonce said, no, Papa, I'll raise the child, and jay
Speaker 1: Z and Beyonce have been raising that child ever since.
Speaker 1: That is just like the Janet Jackson and Reaby baby.
Speaker 1: That is some hell. Whoever came up with that theory
Speaker 1: couda to you. I am sure you are alone in
Speaker 1: your mother's basement. But here's the thing. You better work
Speaker 1: that brain, because that is some juicy hot hot tea.
Speaker 1: I wish I had a tea with some bourbon in
Speaker 1: it for that. These are not These are not the
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories of people who are who are loved and
Speaker 1: cared for. These are the conspiracy theories of the lonely.
Speaker 1: But they are still fun all the same. Absolutely, Like
Speaker 1: this person is locked in the basement by their mother.
Speaker 1: They when the mother chooses, got real from the gooney
Speaker 1: vibes for this one, Ye, I'm very much like, Oh,
Speaker 1: she wasn't pregnant. I didn't even think of whose the
Speaker 1: babies was. That is old out here running game and
Speaker 1: and ditching babies apparently, Oh my gosh. I mean, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put that past him at sure. But I see,
Speaker 1: here's where I think it's a little short sighted is
Speaker 1: Matthew Knowles may not be the hero that he wanted
Speaker 1: us to believe he was for the years that he
Speaker 1: represented Beyonce and Destiny's chill Is at their manager. But
Speaker 1: Matthew Knowles has shot a hundred percent up to this
Speaker 1: point of successful fucking superstars. Beyonce and Solange are both
Speaker 1: legendary performers talents out in the world. He would be
Speaker 1: a fool to get a third baby and be like,
Speaker 1: buy ain't fucking with this one though, Like you literally
Speaker 1: have another shot and making a great just see how
Speaker 1: it goes. Matthew, say, you got that Joe Jackson's got
Speaker 1: that Joe Jackson. He got that Joe Jackson. You better
Speaker 1: make them, baby, you gotta keep making him. And you
Speaker 1: got that Joe Jackson. Yeah, I mean I believe it.
Speaker 1: You want to you want to sprinkle him in somebody else?
Speaker 1: See what'll see what we can do over here? Well
Speaker 1: we can do overay. That's great. All right, We're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be back with more joy l
Speaker 1: Johnson more my mama told me. And we are back anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're back here Johnson More. My mama told me. We're
Speaker 1: still talking about the legendary Beyonce and her legendary lies
Speaker 1: about that goddamn baby. Oh I've lost the pounds from laughing. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's play a game. We love to play a
Speaker 1: game on this show. It's it's our favorite thing. And
Speaker 1: I have a classic game that I would love to
Speaker 1: play with you. It's a game called Homemade Hotep. So Joel,
Speaker 1: the way that this game works is I am going
Speaker 1: to introduce to you a very real fact out in
Speaker 1: the world, something that is objectively treated as a truth.
Speaker 1: And what I would love for you to do is
Speaker 1: just how tep the ship out of it. Add as
Speaker 1: much conspiracy and and frankly homophobia as you feel necessary,
Speaker 1: mostly to to make this real fact a little less real.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Great? So this is a fun
Speaker 1: one that I found. It's apparently, and I think there's
Speaker 1: there's got some ripe material here for you. Apparently, in Scotland,
Speaker 1: the national animal of Scotland is the unicorn. Out in Scotland,
Speaker 1: their national animal is a unicorn. Everywhere else America we
Speaker 1: got real animals, bald eagles and and I don't know, goats.
Speaker 1: I don't know what America is into. But the point
Speaker 1: is Scotland's claiming their national animal is a unicorn. Tell
Speaker 1: me why. I mean it makes sense because Scotland is
Speaker 1: way to Caucus Mountains there and they didn't get enough
Speaker 1: sunlight and that's what turned their skin white and their
Speaker 1: eyes blue, and which is why they would not be
Speaker 1: able to recognize a real animal, because their skin is
Speaker 1: translucent and so is their brains. So of course they're
Speaker 1: going to choose something like a unicorn, because I know
Speaker 1: what they were doing up there in the Caucaus Mountains.
Speaker 1: The men's were sleeping with the men's the women's you know,
Speaker 1: they wasn't even having enough babies correctly. And and and
Speaker 1: this is this is the problem that you have. Everyone
Speaker 1: needs sunlight. Unicorns don't have no sunlight. They're white, they're
Speaker 1: white with a rainbow especially epecially they don't have a
Speaker 1: gender either. My goodness, what what letters do we have
Speaker 1: that have to follow a unicorn in Scotland because they
Speaker 1: don't pronounce all their letters in Scotland. I'm just against
Speaker 1: because a rainbow flag wrapped in a unicorn with some glitter.
Speaker 1: Eventually they have plenty of parades. This wow, you did it?
Speaker 1: Hold on it gets the rebound, passes it to the man,
Speaker 1: shoots it and boom goes a dynamite. Boom goes the dynamite.
Speaker 1: That was fantastic. What what a response? I normally play
Speaker 1: funk Flex going that's that's motherfucking bars, nigga, you know
Speaker 1: nothing about that, But I couldn't find my drop, so
Speaker 1: I played one that's very different from from Clex. But
Speaker 1: the point is you still nail that. I love that
Speaker 1: that they're they're so white that they can't even see
Speaker 1: reality as we understand it. In other places in the world.
Speaker 1: You need sun you need sunlight, and then if you
Speaker 1: get too much sunlight you get people in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: so you need a balance, you need a balance. That's
Speaker 1: East Coast girl. I think in l A. We see
Speaker 1: everything and we don't have souls to be able to
Speaker 1: communicate one where other whether these things we're seeing or
Speaker 1: right or wrong? Yes, no one knows ball half sunlight.
Speaker 1: Well well, joy L, we did it. This was this
Speaker 1: was a pleasure. This you you you nailed this episode.
Speaker 1: Could you tell the people at home where they can
Speaker 1: find you and what cool stuff you have going on? Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean after the Hive is done with me, hopefully
Speaker 1: I will still be available one and yell Joys across
Speaker 1: all platforms. That's my album that came out of this
Speaker 1: Juneteenth and love Joy is my special on Peak. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: so go go watch the special, go listen to the album,
Speaker 1: Go follow joy L wherever the following happens. And uh,
Speaker 1: as always, you can follow me at Lankston Kerman on
Speaker 1: all the platforms, and and uh if you are in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles on December fifteen. I would love to see
Speaker 1: you over at Hotel Cafe. Were host in another monthly show.
Speaker 1: It'll be a good ass time, a lot of fun comedians,
Speaker 1: links in Kerman and freaks. It's it's a good it's
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Speaker 1: I said it. Bye, bitch, My crop chips in your
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