1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This episode is going to cover a lot of ground 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: in the sense of how, in my opinion, a good 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: way to think about how Black Americans moved through the 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: public and deal with issues within our community that affects 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: the greater politics. You're following me. I know it's a mouthful, 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: but you'll understand as we talk. I think it has 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: to do with, or the best way to understand it 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: is how we raised now as black people. It's safe 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: to assume you was raised by a black mama, and 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: if he was raised by a black mama, I feel 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: with regional variations, um and of course all statistics can 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: be added an asterisk, right, But generally the greatest defense 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: you could do to your mama is embarrassed her. But 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: the degree for which you get in trouble about that 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: embarrassment has to do with where you embarrass her. And 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: there's one place. Again it may be described a little 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: different here and there, but there is one place that 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: if you cross this line, you're behind this mind. You 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: do not embarrass your mama in public. Slight variation in 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: front of these people, slight variation in front of these 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: white people at this grocery store. At this point, the 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: point is don't embarrass your mama in public because things 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: that need to be dealt with need to be dealt 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: with at home. We already know what these white people 25 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: think of us. We already know they already out to 26 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: get you. I'm just telling you how we think, and 27 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: we already know what these people think of her. You're 28 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: not gonna ruin that. But what I think y'all don't understand, 29 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: as you within our community, is that might sound selfish, 30 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: don't embarrass your MoMA in public, but it's protection, it's safety. 31 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: We move differently, all and there's a reason why we do. 32 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it her politics, y'all. All right, So 33 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: the black community is not in any way, shape or 34 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: form immune to traditional issues of patriarchy and misogyny. We 35 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: are just as guilty as every other community issues of 36 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: homophobia and and all the all the same sort of 37 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: you know, the toxic masculinity. It's it's in our it's 38 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: in our communities like everybody else's community. But there is 39 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: a a venerated person within our community, and its mama. 40 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: We venerate moms. Now, it's weird in the sense that 41 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: like obviously side chicks and baby mamas and and all 42 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: that drama and all the like, you know, disrespectful hip 43 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: hop that at least I grew up on, obviously is 44 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: full of misogyny, obviously is full of like treating mama's terribly, 45 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But out of that same 46 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: mouth comes the song Tupac wrote, Dear Mama, you know 47 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, which every thug still sheds a thug 48 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: tear whenever that song is played. Mom is venerated. Now, 49 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: part of that veneration is in theory, because obviously we 50 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: will necessarily treat our mama's very well. But what you 51 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: what do you hear when a black man becomes a star, 52 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or or an athlete or 53 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: makes it they body mama house. You know, I'm gonna 54 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: get my mama this car. I'm gonna give my mom 55 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: out the hood. You know what I'm saying, Like that 56 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: is your first thing. And some of that has to 57 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: do with a different type of massah, Jenny, you know 58 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Don't get me wrong, I'm not unaware 59 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: of what's going on here, you know, because we only 60 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: understand our moms in relation to how they treated us. 61 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: All my mama worked four jobs, kept me. She's so hard. 62 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: She worked so hard. That's a strong black woman. I'm 63 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: gonna take care of it. She ain't gonna ever have 64 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: to work again. You know what I'm saying, Well, do 65 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: you think she wanted to be a strong black woman? Nigger? 66 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: That's because you're broke as daddy left her, you feel 67 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: he like, I don't know. I mean, maybe you you're 68 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, But what I'm trying to say is like 69 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: we have a hard time seeing her as a full person. 70 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: But that being said, as dichotomists or oxymoronic as it 71 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: might be, we have venerated moms. Even when we make 72 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: your mama jokes, it's understood that we're not really talking 73 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: about your mama because we really talking about my mama, 74 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: Like that would be the end of your life, you 75 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And a lot of times I 76 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid, like why did you 77 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: end up in the Spire hospitals talking about my mama? 78 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: So like there's just something about our mothers that is, 79 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: in some ways is the cornerstone of our community. A 80 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: lot of times, your mother was your the center of 81 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: your moral compass, even if she gang banged. You know, 82 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like and again, like I said in the beginning, 83 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: all statistics have asterisks. That is not true for everybody, 84 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: but as a general understanding of our experience, our mom 85 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: is venerated. So because she shaped our personality, she shaped 86 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: who we are. And if you understand the plight of 87 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: black women in America, also, it's like, well, she's the 88 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: most targeted of all the then diagrams of suffering and oppression. 89 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, like, yo, she she the bulls eyes, the 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: black woman, you know. But she's also the creator of 91 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: culture and futures. And like I said, she's the the 92 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: the center of our moral compass, and she the person 93 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: that may raised us all and being said, all of 94 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: us got black Mama stories, and some of them are 95 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: more fun than others, you know what I'm saying, Like 96 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: you know little things about like hey, you know why 97 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: you don't be cutting up in school because okay, this 98 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: woman working two three jobs, she's gonna have to take 99 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: a day off work that ain't gonna get paid just 100 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: to come and get your ass because you don't know 101 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: how to act in school, you know what I'm saying. 102 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: So when she beat the brakes, off you. You know 103 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's it's it's it's like, oh yeah, 104 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: that's funny. You know, don't take mama's apple juice. Did 105 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: my mom have sold us up under her bed that 106 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: me and my siblings bet not drink. Absolutely was their 107 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: parts in our our house that we knew. You know 108 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if you go in that closet like 109 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: family is over. But again, my mama was my moral compass. 110 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: You know. She had her prayer closet. It was you know, 111 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: every day or every other day whatever, for like an 112 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: hour maybe our fifteen minutes, she shut the doing locket. 113 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: She going that room. She praying, like my mom and 114 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: they're praying, you know, she praying over us, you know, 115 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: laying hands on it. Like whatever the case, maybe your 116 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: mama become she's just the center of your thing. And 117 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: there is one thing that I feel like we all 118 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: know you're intro with school, you're into whatever. You know 119 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you you disrespect or you back talker, like, 120 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: of course you'll handle that, but most of us know 121 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: not to talk to your mom's that way, right, which 122 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: is why generally we look at the way white people 123 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: raise their kids. We just think it's strange, you know. Said. Granted, 124 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: we have a lot to learn from each other, because 125 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: obviously this podcast is not unpacking why our moms um 126 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: perpetuated some of the practices that we're birth out of 127 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: our disenfranchisement and oppression. Um, we're only scratching the surface 128 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: of that. But the point is there's a narrative being 129 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: pitched here. So when I say the biggest thing you 130 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: can do is wrong is embarrass your mama in public. Uh, 131 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: some of us may have some PTSD from shivers. Some 132 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: of y'all has been on how bad that your mom was? 133 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: If you and barrassed me out, if you embarrass me, 134 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna embarrass you. You know you mess around? Is 135 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: again pinning how boud it y'all are? How hood y'all 136 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: were your mama mess around, beat your ass in front 137 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: of all these people, in front of your friends. She 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: would even say that, don't make me embarrass you in 139 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: front of your little friends. You know what I'm saying. 140 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: That's another thing, you know, we always say another one 141 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: of the thing, I'm not booboot the fool. Don't talk 142 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: to me like I'm one of your little friends. You 143 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like I deserve this respect, you know, 144 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: and she had the backhand to back it up. You 145 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: understand saying, but whatever it is, whatever cutting up you got, 146 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: if you do it in front of other people, and 147 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: specifically because when we she with her homies and you 148 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: act stupid, she gonna light you up in front of 149 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: them because they know all my too. Girl, I don't 150 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: know what these young they mess around, they mess around, 151 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: jump in yo, say uh, you mess around in front 152 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: of family, any one of your aunties might get in you, 153 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, but not in front of these white fee 154 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 1: not in public. And again, pen On, how bad that 155 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: your mom was was what she was, She owned, how 156 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: she feels, how she developed in her own sort of psychology. 157 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: She may be like, excuse me for a second, to 158 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: whoever she was talking to, even whether she was on 159 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: the phone, uh or you was actually in public, give 160 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: you this look like go a wait in the car. Ah, buddy, buddy, 161 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: you finna get it. I know. I remember a few 162 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: times I mouthed off at church. She gave me this 163 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: look like, you know, white people be like wait till 164 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: your father gets home. You know, I taught me that's 165 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: scary you know, I get it because it's your daddy 166 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: the enforcer. That's just I mean my daddy. My daddy 167 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: was around for my my early childhood, you know what 168 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, yeah, he was an enforcer, but he 169 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: ain't need to be. That's like he didn't need to be. 170 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: A mother would say stuff like go away in the car. Fam, 171 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: you had already crossed the line on me. It's it's 172 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: bad news bears for you. Now. Why I bring this 173 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: up in in terms of hood politics is I think 174 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: there's some ground I want to cover here. I know, 175 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: I did a two part episode about Kanye and I 176 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: really want to be I want to dead the topic 177 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: with this um, which has not much to do with him, 178 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: but how the black community responded and how we generally 179 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: respond to somebody who has probably crossed the line many times, 180 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: but we ain't done nothing like and as far as 181 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: into the world of canceled little bull offenses, you know, 182 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: speaking of which, when you say, like, who do you 183 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: think invented cancel culture, it was black women. They invented 184 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: the term like, oh, he's canceled like, and they just 185 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: did it as like and not as something that was 186 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: supposed to become a culture. You know what I'm saying. 187 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: That's what happens when you're talking from the white people. 188 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: But black women used to say that, Oh no, he canceled, 189 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: like that came from them. I just let me set 190 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: the record straight. The phrase came from black women. But anyway, 191 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: there's a long history of incredibly problematic Black figures, you know, 192 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: who've continually dumb. Now granted now now follow me. Ain't 193 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: no more problematic than anybody else's figures, you know, But 194 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: even problematic Black figures that have made us, I don't know, 195 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: feel embarrassed in public, you know what I'm saying. Uh, 196 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: one would ask what took us so long? With R Kelly? 197 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: I think I brought this up before. Um what took 198 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: us so long? Whini Bishop Atty? Long? Now it beens 199 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: on how black y'all. You may not know his name, 200 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, but the brother was a listen, I mean, 201 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: brother was brother was outside in all the wrong ways. 202 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: You feel me? There were some problems going on. But 203 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: the line that you have to cross before we disavalue 204 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: is something that needs to be understood as a way 205 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: to understand why we are not white liberals while we 206 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: are not just what the Democratic Party thinks we are, 207 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: or even what the Republican Party thinks we are, or 208 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: what's your Twitter feed thinks we are, depending on how 209 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: hood your Twitter feed is, There's a lot going on here. 210 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: And I say this in the shadow of unfortunately today 211 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: November one of the shooting death of Amigo's artists, take 212 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: Off um as an accidental I mean right now, like 213 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: the the Again, depending on how deep in the black 214 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: Twitter you are, you may not really know all the 215 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: details about this, and maybe this isn't I went by 216 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: the time it comes out like, maybe the story might 217 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: have get straightened out. But essentially, if you know, take Off, 218 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: he was always known as being really quiet in the cut, 219 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: even killed stay out of stuff. He wasn't He wasn't 220 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: the type to pop off. He was real chill. And 221 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: in the situation, there was a dice game going on, 222 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: and apparently Quavo was more pressed about something else and 223 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: some shots rang off, and essentially take Off was shot 224 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: by accident. You know. So it wasn't like no dice game, 225 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: or it wasn't like he was shooting dice And you 226 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like word is he was literally 227 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: standing in the back and he just caught a bullet 228 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: and probably uh most likely again can't confirm. None of 229 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: this might have been friendly fired. Just somebody shot, they 230 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: shot back, and he out of bullet and rather than 231 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: the rest in peace, you know, take off things that 232 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: should have taken off, hashtags that should have taken off, 233 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: Black on black crime took off. That's that's the that's 234 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: that's the hashtag that's trending as of today. This is 235 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: why this topic of politics is so important to me. 236 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: And if you can hear in the tone of my 237 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: voice that this isn't the normal jovial like, oh my 238 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: ads is so absurd kind of tone. This is like 239 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: like this is something I feel like some deep sociology here. 240 00:14:39,160 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: All right, I'll ready, let's go, ready. So the first 241 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: thing you have to understand about how black people deal 242 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: with uh people that they have quote unquote not for 243 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: your terms, not by what you mean canceled, but why 244 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: what we mean by that? Um, we're very we across 245 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: the board. Again, all statistics have asterisk, but generally we 246 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: deal with things via humor, like you know, we crack jokes, 247 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: we make fun of each other, you know, and it's 248 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: understood that like yo, if you're getting if you're getting cooked, 249 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: you're supposed to cook back, you know, because there's an 250 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: understanding that we're in this together and it's all love, 251 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: you know. And then there are some things that were 252 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: just like yo, if you just don't mess with somebody, 253 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: you don't mess with somebody, you know what I'm saying. 254 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: As far as like within our community, it's like, uh, 255 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: that man, you're a weird though, like like ah, but 256 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: that but that weird will have homies like like like 257 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go out and say it's like Kyrie Irving, 258 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: like you're a weirdo. You know. Also today, uh, the 259 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: news dropped that Steve Nash has been fired from the 260 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: NETS and apparently it was over some argument with Kyrie 261 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: and cannot be confirmed again the the news is still breaking, 262 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: but essentially Steve Nash that had everybody at the crib 263 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: and and Nash was pressing him about being a flat 264 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: earther and what sucks is like, man, this video of 265 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: Takeoff being murdered, but don't nobody want to see that. 266 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I want to see the video of this conversation where 267 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: a situation. According to the story, he was pressing him 268 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: about being a flat earther, and he told Steve Nash, 269 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: what do you know about rotations? Which is if you 270 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: know basketball, that is funny, okay, And part of what 271 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: makes it so funny is that, Okay, if you're a 272 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: flat earth are, you're already starting from a deficit, so 273 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: you should easily you should be cooked easily. Right, But 274 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: you out But Steve Nash, you outgunned, you out mad 275 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: the fact because black people have been cooking each other 276 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: for a long time, so we always have a comeback, right, 277 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: So he like that, like it cooked that boy, you 278 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: got cooked by a flat earther. Like that's hilarious to me. 279 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: But anyway, point being, we we cracked jokes among each other, right, 280 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: but when we're done with you, when you've crossed the line, 281 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: we don't Generally, you're not gonna see a bunch of 282 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: like hay tweets or disavowing. It's not like, it's not like, 283 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: it's not like how everybody else handles stuff. You cease 284 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: to exist to us, You just mattering. Stacy Dash is 285 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: a good example that nobody's checking for it. The last 286 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: time we heard heard about her was when she realized 287 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: two years later that DMX was dead. Nobody checking for it. 288 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: You know, we talk on this podcast because of like 289 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: you know, cool zone media and the fact the stuff 290 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: that I'm in about Candice Owns you run through the hood. 291 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: They have no idea who she is. She just don't matter. 292 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: You when you when we're done, you fall off the planet. 293 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: So it's like, if you're not gonna get made fun of, 294 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: you just not gonna be checked in on We're done, 295 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: Like you're just you don't How else can I say? 296 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: You don't matter? You know why black people know who 297 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: Herschel Walker is now just because he's running, because he's 298 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: running for office. He was like, wait, thank that the 299 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: nigger I thought he moved to Texas. The nigga stopped 300 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: mattering to us. You know he's he You crossed into 301 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: a world to where we stopped checking for him. You 302 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that we only talk about him 303 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: now because we got to talk about him now. The 304 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: only reason Black people talk about Candice owns Now is 305 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: because of Kanye what checking for it? She stopped mattering. Y'all, 306 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: y'all following me, You have to be really into the stuff. 307 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: But when you go through like listen your Twitter feed, 308 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm part of the talented tenth. Like and I and 309 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I say that in academic terms, right again, you gotta 310 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: google your W E B D. Boys, you gotta google. 311 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: You gotta google that to understand what I mean by 312 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: the talented tenth. Right, Um, I'm gonna make you do 313 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: your Google's Google Talented tenth shout out tom Me Sho 314 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: Barrock who did an album on it. So I'm hybrid, 315 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm different. You know what I'm saying. But if 316 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: you go through the block, oh no, Candice always and 317 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: niggas don't care. You know, I'm saying like she don't matter, 318 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: you feel me. It's not that they're uninformed or just 319 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: not there on intelligence. Are very intelligent people. That's the 320 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: whole premise of her politics, is that the streets are 321 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: actually very intelligent. But as a community, you know what 322 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: we're not checking for. So really that's that's how it 323 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: looks what y'all want us to do with Kanye, how 324 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: it would actually look in practice is like that he 325 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: would just stop mattering. The problem is he still matters 326 00:20:31,080 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: to us. And I'm gonna explain to you why after this, Yeah, 327 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: all right, we're back now, why Kanye still matters. Is 328 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: something that really goes back to your mama saying don't 329 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: embarrass us in public part of it, and and it's 330 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: in two parts. The first part is is the cultural 331 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: power to cancel, and two is is the white gaze. 332 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the white gaze because I feel 333 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: like that's a good intersection with like the male gaze. 334 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: It's this and now it used this as as a comparison. 335 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Women will tell you about the male gaze. It's this 336 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: this feeling at all times that you're being watched, being 337 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: ogl being It just feels icky. It's always a man, 338 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: whether it's sexual or power or whatever the case may be. 339 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: Men's is always watching. You can't do nothing without them watching, you, 340 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: feel me. If you're in a um professional situation, what 341 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: comes out of that male gaze? A lot of times 342 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: just man explaining you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, 343 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: you over here diligently doing your work, dropping gems, you 344 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And then the dude that's watching 345 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: the whole time essentially just says what you just said 346 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: to the rest of the group, and everybody's like, oh, 347 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: you know that's you know what I'm saying, it's this 348 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: idea like or or the brother come pick your from 349 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: your office and pick your brain. And this happening to 350 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: my wife, you know what I'm saying, sitting on a panel, 351 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Like she was doing a panel discussion and the guy, 352 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: one of the one of the dudes, came in and 353 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: talked him, was like, hey, so tell me what you're 354 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: what you're about, what you're talking about, so we could 355 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: be on the same page on the stage. So she 356 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: started dropping some of her ideas. They get on the 357 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: stage and he essentially just says her ideas, Man, you 358 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: can't you just can't talk in front of these people. 359 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: I can't show you none of my brilliance. You know 360 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because it always ends up being a 361 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: power lever. It's the male gaze. Can't dress cute because 362 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: that means I'm inviting you to like you know what 363 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, plat X ray goggles on my boobies, you 364 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, So it's this gaze black 365 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: people feel that we white people. It's this idea that like, 366 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: whether you're watching us to steal our words, our dance, 367 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: redefine them as your own. Like I've talked about so 368 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: many times. The fact that there is such thing as 369 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: cancel culture, woke culture CRT as a problem is y'all 370 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: watching black people move and then giving definition. So it's like, yeah, 371 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: we always say, like, man, you can't talking from the 372 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: white people. That's gonna ruin our slang. They're gonna ruin 373 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: our dances, They're gonna run. They always watching. But also 374 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: this feeling that you're always watching to prove your prejudices correct, 375 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: you're following. This is why I bring up take Off 376 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: being murdered and then Black on Black crime trending. It's 377 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: the white daze. You're looking into our community to prove 378 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: the prejudices that you have. There's this um clip going 379 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: around of Jamal Bryant. He's a pastor back East Black pastor. 380 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: He lightened up herschel Walker, and he lightened him up 381 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: because of the stuff that I'm talking about is like 382 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: herschel Walker shucking give for you. This man can't talk 383 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: is why I brought up before they make a talk. 384 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: He sounds ignorant. You know what I'm saying. Here'd do 385 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: whatever the white man tell him. So of course they 386 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: want him in power now grant it Jamal bran ain't 387 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: no saint. I mean this goes back to like what 388 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about before as to like nigga, we probably 389 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: should have dealt with this nigga a while back. But 390 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: the point we're saying is this man has crossed the 391 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: line into a place to where you like, it's like 392 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: house niggas and field niggas like you you think you 393 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: know because they didn't. They didn't put you all in 394 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: the front, you feel me, Uh, they propped you up 395 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: all in the front. You getting all these checks. You 396 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Why do you think you're getting 397 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: all these checks from these white people's because you'll do 398 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: what they say. Nigga, you're not with us. You you 399 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. That's that white gaze. They went 400 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: and found a man, according to Jamal Bryant, that look 401 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: exactly the way they think of us as and then 402 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: they gona do whatever they do. You turn around, put 403 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: them in front of black people because you know, hey, 404 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: you know black people want to be equal representation, right. 405 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: But he's like, they don't speak for me. Yo. This 406 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: is an interesting, uh sort of cross section with the 407 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: new Prime Minister in the UK Who's this a South 408 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: Asian brother? And are you asking does he represent that 409 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: South Asian community? I mean, I guess, but he's extremely wealthy. 410 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: He's one of the most wealthy. I like, have y'all 411 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: pulled his have y'all pulled his pulled his LinkedIn. He 412 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: even married into an extreme, extremely wealthy family. That man 413 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: represent money. So so you're talking about the average you know, 414 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: the average brown uh brother and sister, South Asian brother 415 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: and sister out there in u K. He's like, does 416 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: that man represent me? I mean, I don't know, just 417 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: because he just you know, all scaring folk and can folks, 418 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So there's that nuance right 419 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: that this man don't represent us, but the white people's 420 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: is watching. So when your mama say, don't you embarrass 421 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: me in public, there's a there's a bigger sociological phenomenon 422 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: happening here that you could possibly trace. I mean, this 423 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: may sound grandiose, you know, some Niggers might be like, 424 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: whatever you put an extras on it, but I believe 425 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: this this stuff stayed in our bones from the overseers, 426 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: all the way back into the slavery times, all the 427 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: way back into gym Crow. You need to stay in line. 428 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: You can't. Don't cut up in front of these people. 429 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: You want, you understand, because we don't know what they're 430 00:27:53,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna do. I love you, we love you. They looking 431 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: they're looking for a reason, these white people looking for 432 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: a reason. Now with me. Obviously, when I say this, 433 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about um, white as an institution. You know 434 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: you're your buddy Carl from accounting, who's like a super 435 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: good dude. Obviously it's not what i'm talking about talking about. 436 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 1: White is an institution, which at this point in this 437 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: podcast you should know that by now. But and obviously black, 438 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about every black person. You know, I'm 439 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: talking about Black as a community as an institution. But 440 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: there's this understanding all the way back to the overseers 441 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: that I don't know what they'll do to you, or 442 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I have an idea what they'll 443 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: do to you if you step out of line, or 444 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: if I show that I can't keep you in line. 445 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: We're all in trouble. So when you're cutting up in school, 446 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: cutting up is such an old phrase. That's I'm telling 447 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: you our parents when you know you're messing up in school, 448 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: why you get drag so bad when you get home, 449 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: it's because again your mom and them know they're looking 450 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: for a reason to count you out. They're looking for 451 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: a reason to not give you opportunities. You understand. So 452 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: in some ways, again it's not about her, it's about us, 453 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: which brings me to the next point as to why 454 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: we don't cancel the way you want us to. And 455 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: I believe it goes back to the same principle. Are 456 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: collective is what has kept us safe. It's what has 457 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: kept us alive. Our community, our community protection. We have 458 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: a always worked in tandem with each other for our freedom. 459 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: I am because we are that that that you have 460 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: when you're when you come from a suffering people. And 461 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: again I can only speak as black people. I am 462 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: because we are. You make your ancestors proud. It took 463 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people to get you to where you are. 464 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: So when we have that understanding, we tend to desire 465 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: to police each other among ourselves. So when you get 466 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: out of line, our inclination is to be like, get 467 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: in the car for a second and we'll say, hey, hey, hey, baby, 468 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with you, but Nikka, 469 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: you tripping, right, and we'll crack jokes, but the door shut, 470 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: the door shut and locked, because we can't let these 471 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: white people see this. This is among us, Nigga, get 472 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: your ship together. What is you doing? Because our discipline 473 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: among each other. Why our moms were so hard on 474 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: us is because what I'm gonna do to you is 475 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: far less damaging than what they're gonna do to you 476 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: is far So we keep it in the house. When 477 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: you start tripping, we keep it in the house. And 478 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: we also understand internalized racism. When you start internalizing yourself hate, right, 479 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: and you start spewing out some of this to Sodian. 480 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: So then this is what happened. This is original Kanye problem. 481 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You being like, okay, you know, 482 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: how do you go from these lyrics all college drop out, like, oh, 483 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: they put you know um when you you know, when 484 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: you get on they leave your ask for a white girl. 485 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Oh, they love Kanye. Put 486 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: him in the front of this though, you know, and 487 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: the white man get paid for all of that. You 488 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, how you ended the Black panthers? 489 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan had an answer like we could spout so 490 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: many Kanye lyrics about this black liberation right. Uh, so 491 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: we're saying, oh, oh, Son, you didn't been given the 492 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: oaky dog. Come come come back home. Let me talk 493 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: to you some Oh oh oh, we get it. He's sick. Okay, baby, Okay, listen, 494 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: Slavery is a choice thing. I'm gonna chalk that up. Listen, 495 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: you have been. I'm gonna chalk that up to your uh, 496 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: to your mad. Now as this is happening, he's chipping 497 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: away at his support within the black community and some 498 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: people at that point at the slavery the choice and 499 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: it was like, all right, no, this niked done. I'm cool. 500 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: Then you go into the kyrie world to where you're like, 501 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: oh I didn't get weird though, Look y'all can haven't 502 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? But are we gonna turn 503 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: him over to these white people? No? Now, what happened 504 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: with Kanye is again, according to the communion, it started 505 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: seemed like he just he wanted their approval. That's kind 506 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: of what it started seeming like. You know, now when 507 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: you walk into the again, now when you walk into 508 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: the city, listen, they still ride with it. They're like, nah, man, 509 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: they're just trying to keep this billionaire down. You know, 510 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: you talk. I talked to some of these young dudes. 511 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: They're like, Yo, he made graduation and that's it. You 512 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because as a community, deep down 513 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: inside us, we don't ever want to turn somebody over 514 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: two the type of dehumanization that comes from whiteness. Now 515 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: as he's losing. You know, all these um partnerships with 516 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: these bigger companies. Now, why you don't see that with 517 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: us is the fact that like, well, we don't have 518 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: the collective cultural capital or power to cancel somebody like that. Well, 519 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: we don't all those companies, we can't do that. We 520 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: own cool, we own we own streets, We own culture 521 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: in the sense that we we decide what's doping what's not. 522 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: But we don't own the bank, we don't own the company. 523 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: We own the trend. So when we decide you're not trendy, 524 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: that's how we flex our power. When we're done with you. 525 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,479 Speaker 1: You're following me. I mean, when the last Stacy Dashed 526 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: movie you've seen, we decided we were done. Does that 527 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: do you understand that I'm asking you, Like you're sitting 528 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: here but ultimately, our desire collectively has been let's deal 529 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: with it inside. Don't you embarrass us in public. So 530 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: when we're dealing with crime inside of our communities, yeah, 531 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: you you just we're not We're not delusional. We know 532 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: we're killing each other. I just don't need you to 533 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: talk about it because you don't love us. We're just 534 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: a talking point. We're talking about LOWA unemployment rates, We're 535 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: talking about jail jail time sentences, We're talking about that, 536 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: like we know, we know how we got here, but 537 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: we know. But also how it gets really complicated is 538 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: the fact that, like, if you think of all of 539 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: the institutional obstacles that have been placed on the black community, 540 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: whether it's policing, unfair housing, all of the things that 541 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: have pressed against us from so many different angles, why 542 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: would it not be so hard to believe in a 543 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory? Because it feels like a conspiracy just pressed 544 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: on every angle by every possible institution. It's hard to 545 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: not be, like, you know what, I think y'all sitting 546 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: around and planning all this. Y'all niggas just don't want 547 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: no black people to win. So when Kanye stand up 548 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: and start speaking up he's like, nah, man, I'm going 549 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: against this system. You like, right on, Kan, Yeah, of 550 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: course there's a conspiracy. Who you said the conspiracy is 551 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: what you say? Oh, it's the Jill Okay work. Yeah, 552 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: it's them. That's like you hear the term Mark Zuckerberg, right, 553 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: and you're thinking that's the Jewish dude. So therefore Kanye's right, 554 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: because there's no way Kanye would really sell us out 555 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: because he wanted us. You see how the logic happens. 556 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: I am because we are, and you have to think 557 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: about the amount of long suffering we have. And of 558 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: course obviously it's not a light switch on and off, 559 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: because eventually you become Bill Cosby, and even becoming Bill Cosby, 560 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: it's still folks that's like, nah, they after a black man. 561 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: They're just trying to keep a black man down. You 562 00:37:52,560 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We've survived because of our collective 563 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: protection against a system that has always felt like it 564 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: was against us. So excuse us for not moving the 565 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: way a liberal person, progressive person would think we would. 566 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: It's not an issue of an intel of intelligence. It's 567 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: an issue of survival. So obviously this is no defense 568 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: of Kanye's words and actions. Again, I'm a little different. 569 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: You know, I've been to a Holocaust museum. I understand 570 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: the complexities and intersectionality of the black and the Jewish plight, 571 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: and I also understand how industry works. And I also 572 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: understand and I understand where they're coming from and why 573 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: they would think the way they think. Now, it is 574 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: my opinion that Kanye himself will always have his remnant 575 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: that will always run with him. You know, give or 576 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: take some some new Fox News ads, but there's going 577 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: to be a percentage of our community that's just done again. 578 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: I say R Kelly, I even say Chris Brown, you know, 579 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: he's a star again. Of course he's moved on. You know, 580 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: he made his made his thing. I think Travis Scott 581 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: is actually a great example of somebody who showed his penance. 582 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: It was like yo, like he was when you know, 583 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: the astral World thing happened, Like yo, it was a mistake, 584 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he owned it and 585 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: did everything he could and we like it. You know, 586 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: I got you, no big deal. But I think there's 587 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: a remnant in the streets that will always be like 588 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: it ain't that serious. What Kanye saying, and y'all just 589 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: after him because he's wealthy. Y'all just trying to take 590 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: a black man down? Why? Because a lot of times 591 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,479 Speaker 1: it is they're just trying to take a black man down, 592 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: and it's not. Again, I can't stress this enough. It's 593 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: not that these people are unintelligent. They have a perception 594 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: based on hundreds of years of evidence, the one did 595 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: they think the way I think? So now when you're 596 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: thinking about the black vote or the voter block listen, 597 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: it's complicated. What does the black community think of Kanye 598 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: is complicated? Will we ever fully disavow him? It's complicated? 599 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: I because our our survival has been interdependent up until 600 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: this day. So I don't know. Do we oftentimes vote 601 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: against our own selves interests? A lot of times? Has 602 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: the in I can't believe on saying this in defense? 603 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: Has the Democratic Party always counted on us riding for 604 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: them because the publicans sound ridiculously racist, Yeah, they have, 605 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: but that's because they don't know us. That's because they're 606 00:41:50,040 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: not really out here. Ye. So that's for you who 607 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: are not of our community to at least understand what's 608 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: going on now us that's inside of our community we 609 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: gotta have a family meeting, y'all. Is the man coming 610 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: to the barbecue or not? I mean, he did kind 611 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: of embarrass us in public. What how are we gonna 612 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: deal with this? I I will defer to the majority. 613 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: I will state my opinion that these people on this 614 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: recording ain't going here because this is mixed company. I 615 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: will state my opinion and I'll follow the delegation. But 616 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: we got bigger fister Fried bro rappers keep dying, we 617 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: keep What is we doing, y'all? When Biggie and Tupac 618 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: was murdered, it was like at shock waves. This stuff 619 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: happening way too frequently. What is going on, y'all? Can 620 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: we have a family meeting to discuss? And in the meantime, 621 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: who we're voting for the for the for the mid 622 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: term politics? Y'all? Yeah? 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