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Speaker 2: at the chair. Unfortunately, Amanda's on assignment tonight. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back together hopefully tomorrow night in the same newscast. But meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: a lot of headline to catch up on today, starting

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Speaker 2: in Washington, where the Nation's capital officially began its role

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Speaker 2: in the state funeral for America's thirty ninth President, Jimmy Carter.

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Speaker 2: This afternoon, his body began lying in state at the

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Speaker 2: US Capitol, and luminaries from House Speaker Mike Johnson to

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Speaker 2: outgoing Vice President Kamala Harris paid tribute to the man

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Speaker 2: who led a full life as a peanut farmer, a

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Speaker 2: Sunday school teacher, a Navy veteran, the governor of Georgia,

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Speaker 2: a Nobel Peace Prize winner, a husband of nearly eight decades,

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Speaker 2: and of course, the US President. But neither the morning

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Speaker 2: nor a major snowstorm in the nation's capitol could stop

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Speaker 2: Republicans from getting a running start to their first full week.

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Speaker 1: In charge of Congress.

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Speaker 2: The US House passed le Lake and Riley Act in

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Speaker 2: a two hundred and fifty four to one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty nine vote, with support from both sides of the isle.

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Speaker 2: This law not only honors the young student who was

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Speaker 2: killed by the legal alien, it mandates that anyone committed

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Speaker 2: of a crime be deported.

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Speaker 1: Who's in the legal alien.

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Speaker 2: That's a big deal, and we'll move on to the

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Speaker 2: Senate in a couple of as early as next week

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Speaker 2: for a vote. Meanwhile, President LEC. Donald Trump held a

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Speaker 2: news conference at mar Lago, where he made a lot

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Speaker 2: of news, and he put a big idea out there.

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Speaker 2: Remember last week he was talking about annexing Canada. Today

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Speaker 2: he suggested it's time to rename the Gulf of Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Yep, you got it, the Gulf of America.

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Speaker 2: Lots of buzz on that suggestion from the President on

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Speaker 2: social media, and you can check out the latest overdjusin

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Speaker 2: news dot com.

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Speaker 1: Some investigative reporting.

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Speaker 2: We also did a justin HWS is getting some attention

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Speaker 2: in Congress this afternoon. This after we reported that the

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Speaker 2: drugmaker Maderna concealed the death of a child during a

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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen vaccine booster clinical trial. The question now is

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Speaker 2: did someone in the government know it and when did

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Speaker 2: they know it? Expect Senator Ron Johnson and several of

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Speaker 2: the House committees to begin following up on those revelations

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Speaker 2: which came out this weekend. In addition to all of that,

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Speaker 2: a reminder that lawfair is alive and well in the world,

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Speaker 2: even though there's been many victories against it. Today, Jack

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Speaker 2: Smith was trying to put out his final report on

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump kind of selly in before President Trump takes

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Speaker 2: office on the twentieth, But Eileen Cannon Judge down in

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Speaker 2: Florida said Nope, you're not going to do it. You

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Speaker 2: know why, I've already rolled that you're not lawfully appointed,

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Speaker 2: so you can't lawfully release a report if you're not

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Speaker 2: lawfully appointed. She's put a hold on that. We'll see

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Speaker 2: how that ultimately gets addressed. That's one reminder. Meanwhile, a

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Speaker 2: federal appeals court is allowing Judge Wan Merchant in New

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Speaker 2: York to proceed with sentencing Friday on President Trump's case

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Speaker 2: in the hush money case in New York. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if President's lawyers, the President's lawyers go to the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court to raise a concern or to try to block

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Speaker 2: it there. And finally, we've all been talking about all

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Speaker 2: of the pressure on free speech and now some hopeful

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Speaker 2: signs that things are getting better.

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Speaker 1: Just to our north. Justin Trudeau, of the Prime.

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Speaker 2: Minister, who is a fan of censorship, well, he announced

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Speaker 2: his resignation yesterday and today, Facebook, a place where a

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Speaker 2: lot of political opinions of conservatives were censored over the years,

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Speaker 2: announced it is getting out of the business. Yes, of

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Speaker 2: fact checking. What's funny about that many of the Facebook

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Speaker 2: fact checks they often didn't evolve facts. That's one of

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Speaker 2: the arguments that the people who are censored on social

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Speaker 2: media race concerns about. Well, whatever the case, Meta the

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Speaker 2: parent company getting out of that business also putting some

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Speaker 2: conservative friendly new board members on a sign that maybe

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Speaker 2: it's learned a few of the lessons of the last year.

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Speaker 2: We're censorship to a big backlash in America, all right.

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Speaker 2: With so much going on in Washington, we're very lucky

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Speaker 2: to be joined by a man who is on the

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Speaker 2: frontlines of all the important stuff, particularly the border of

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Speaker 2: security debate going on in our nation's capital. Joining us

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Speaker 2: is Congressman Andy Biggs are the great state of Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Congressman. Great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks John, good to be with you. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: It's a great honor to have you on. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of your podcast, What's the BIG's Idea.

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Speaker 2: Everybody should go download it. It's a fantastic thought leadership

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Speaker 2: podcast and great work you do there. So I want

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Speaker 2: to start with the border. You have been a very

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Speaker 2: important siren for years on the border. You've been down

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Speaker 2: there more than anyone I know of. You're constantly keeping

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Speaker 2: all of us educated.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: The Lincoln Riley Act occurs and you would think it passes.

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Speaker 2: You would think, well, well, Democrats, they can't vote against this,

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Speaker 2: except well, almost one hundred and fifty. Did your reaction

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think we could be overly surprised, because

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Speaker 3: the majority of the Democrat Party in Congress is radical left.

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Speaker 3: They want to open borders. They defend these das that

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Speaker 3: let people out of jail early. They don't really get

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Speaker 3: what the American people have said. The American people said

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Speaker 3: very strongly, John in November, no more, no more of this,

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Speaker 3: and I was on the floor debating it today and

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Speaker 3: oh my goodness. They just are oblivious, some of those people.

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Speaker 3: So it didn't surprise me. I actually was pleasantly surprised

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Speaker 3: that we had almost fifty or so Democrats vote for

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Speaker 3: the bill, which was great. That's great, and it was

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Speaker 3: a truly bipartisan effort. And I hope that the American

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Speaker 3: people watch this realize that the Democrats are still the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think they got a dose of it from some

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Speaker 2: tell us a little bit more, a little bit more

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Speaker 3: Well, what this bill does is that if you are

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Speaker 1: Commit these heinous offenses. So we're going to detain you.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to let you out like some of

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Speaker 3: these super sanctuary cities like San Diego want to do.

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Speaker 3: second thing is in the Senate. This is good news

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Speaker 3: because John Fetterman, who's proven to be kind of a

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Speaker 3: this bill under Senator Thun majority of Leader Thun is

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Speaker 1: Even yeah, what a powerful statement.

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Speaker 2: It would be not only honor the legacy of Lake

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Speaker 2: Now you've done some of your own legislating, you've got

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Speaker 2: a new bill that I think is very important. It's

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Speaker 2: a problem a lot of people don't realize. Guarantees access

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Speaker 2: Indian territorial lands. Tell us why this is important and

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Speaker 3: Well, sometimes there's some nations who border the the US

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Speaker 3: and Congress has an obligation to actually get down and

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Speaker 1: Look at it.

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Speaker 3: There's been speed sticks put down in front of border

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Speaker 3: This would open that up and say, look, we're not

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Speaker 1: And so hopefully we'll.

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Speaker 3: Get better information, more information, and more transparent information.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, important, important piece of legislation that surface day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing that.

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to talk a little bit about

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Speaker 2: the very large, ambitious, and important Trump agenda through. There's

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Speaker 2: a debate one bill, two bills. Everyone's all over the map,

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Speaker 3: Well, I wish I could tell you I knew exactly

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Speaker 3: tell you that this is for people to understand this.

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Speaker 3: Because the filibuster rule in the Senate requires sixty votes,

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Speaker 3: it on a budget bill. It's called the budget reconciliation.

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Speaker 3: And so that is what when President Trump says he

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Speaker 3: allow us to do things like the border security components,

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Speaker 3: issues with regard to DEI wokeness, stopping maybe perhaps even

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Speaker 3: have budget neutrality. So if you increase spending, you have

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Speaker 1: Decrease it over here.

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Speaker 3: That's good thing because you have to get neutrality so

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Speaker 3: So the nub of your question is can we get

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Speaker 3: bill or two bills. I think we get the agenda through, though,

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Speaker 3: and that agenda is the border security, that agenda is

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Speaker 3: talking about. I do think we get them through. It's

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Speaker 3: just going to take a lot of hard work. But

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Speaker 3: sometimes we don't always have, John, as you know, but

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Speaker 1: That's really good news.

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Speaker 2: It's always an honor to have you on this show, sir.

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Speaker 2: Good thanks for joining us. Happy New Year, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Sir, good to have you on. What a

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in America. The winds have change. Aren't just blowing

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Speaker 2: in America to our north. In Canada, change ahead. Justin Trudeau,

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Speaker 4: Great to be on the show, John, it is a pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you know, the writing has been on

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Speaker 4: them to be exceedingly corrupt and secretive in nature. But

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Speaker 4: now with blockchain technology, with crypto, with the level of

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Speaker 4: communication technology that we have, there's an opportunity to rethink,

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Speaker 4: to create open, transparent, you know, inherently trust full and

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Speaker 4: trust less solutions, and that's going to need to happen

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Speaker 4: in Canada and America. So it feels like, I hate

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Speaker 4: to say it, but you know, this idea, this concept

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Speaker 4: of the North American Union was something that I was

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Speaker 4: like wholly against for so long. But given how broken,

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Speaker 4: you know, the global corporateocracy has has made elements of society,

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Speaker 4: it's time for It's time for an upgrade.

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Speaker 2: It's funny I hear more and more people talking about

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Speaker 2: the obviously President Trump when he said about Canada becoming

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Speaker 2: the fifty first date. We sort of hate against some

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Speaker 2: alliance there. We've always had this incredible relationship with our neighbors.

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Speaker 2: So much more I think stressed in the last decade.

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Speaker 1: Tell us a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit about what a North America Alliance might actually

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Speaker 2: look at it as you because you look out over

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Speaker 2: the horizon a lot. You'd like to see things in

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Speaker 2: the future. What do you what do you think that

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Speaker 2: might look like?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it it means, like you know, in

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Speaker 4: Trump's as he's kind of stating because he's like simplifying,

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Speaker 4: it's like, you know, the ability to travel freely between

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Speaker 4: like the way that we travel between states into and

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Speaker 4: out of Canada, like you know, I know, as as

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Speaker 4: a Canadian, like that border has never been a fun

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Speaker 4: experience or an enjoyable experience, and it would love for

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Speaker 4: it to, you know, to just disappear. Similarly, like you know,

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Speaker 4: the Canadian dollar and the US dollar. It feels like,

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Speaker 4: you know, one of the the the things that will

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Speaker 4: need to be introduced is uh, you know, as a

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Speaker 4: new currency. You know, it was hinted at as you know,

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Speaker 4: the SPP and North American Union some to talk and

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Speaker 4: like you know, two thousand and seven, twenty ten times

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Speaker 4: would be something. And then you know, identity systems as well,

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Speaker 4: like central bank digital currencies and digital id but having

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Speaker 4: where technology is going, things are digital, you know, there

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Speaker 4: is a need for digital identity to actually increase our

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Speaker 4: privacy because as it is right now, we don't really

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Speaker 4: own much of our data. It is owned by lots

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Speaker 4: of corporations and it's sold on our without outer knowledge.

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Speaker 4: So you know, there's like there's raw infrastructure that needs

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Speaker 4: to be set up, Trade Act systems, you know, I

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Speaker 4: think it's time for us to go to honestly to

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Speaker 4: have some really thoughtful discussions. Trump had hinted at removing

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Speaker 4: income tax, and I would say something that that'd be

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Speaker 4: something that we all really push for because income tax

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Speaker 4: is one of the most punishing regressive taxes akin to slavery.

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Speaker 4: That absolutely needs to go. And if we were to

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Speaker 4: remove income tax in America and in Canada, there would

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Speaker 4: be such a rush of wealth back into this nation.

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Speaker 4: My goodness, the golden age is dawning, friends, and nothing

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Speaker 4: can stop it. So let's go, let's grow it's.

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Speaker 2: A very exciting moment in not only the US Canadian relationship,

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Speaker 2: but I think in the world at large, freedom also

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Speaker 2: becoming front and center real quickly. Got about thirty seconds left.

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Speaker 2: Free speech has really taken a hit the last decade

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Speaker 2: in Canada. Is that something that gets self corrected in

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Speaker 2: the next few months with the election.

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Speaker 4: I think so. I think the market ultimately will will

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Speaker 4: will sort that out. And this comes down to subsidies

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Speaker 4: and the fact that the entire Canadian media industry is

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Speaker 4: subsidized by the government. So when you have all those subsidies,

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Speaker 4: you know, that's a challenge. And that's the same issue

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Speaker 4: that happens in Canada with you know, the subsidization of

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Speaker 4: the labor force. Nearly like half of Canada works in

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Speaker 4: some form for the government. This is this has got

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Speaker 4: a change. It's not effective, it's not efficient, so you know,

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Speaker 4: we got to change that. And then there's also we've

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Speaker 4: got to make America healthy again that includes Canada. And

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Speaker 4: this is this Maha so let's go and at the

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Speaker 4: Clubmaha dot Com joined the Let's grow.

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Speaker 1: You Robbie, Robert F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy, jun you're doing some great work and that I

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Speaker 2: expect you're going to play a big role in educating

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden that Kyle, what a great honor

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Speaker 2: to have you on. Happy New Year. We'll get you

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Speaker 2: on again real too.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, John, appreciate conversation.

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Speaker 2: Bye everybody, Thank you all right, thinking a quick commercial break,

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Speaker 2: Well me come back. We're gonna talk to Trump advisor

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Speaker 2: Michael Glaisser about Trump's big preaps conference.

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Speaker 1: A lot of news, a lot of fun in it.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to get Michael thoughts on it right

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Speaker 2: after these messages.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back America.

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Speaker 2: Anyone who watched President Trump's news conference today in mar

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Speaker 2: Lago got an entertaining moment. Lots of news, lots of engagement,

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Speaker 2: the normal unusual relationship between the President and the press.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I felt it was a little change today.

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Speaker 2: I thought we turned to someone who's been by the

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Speaker 2: President's side from the moment he came down that golden

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Speaker 2: escalator in twenty fifteen and began his political career. He's

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Speaker 2: been an advisor all that time. Michael Klassman joins us

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Speaker 2: right now. Michael, great to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, John. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 2: As always, it's always great to have you. I think

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Speaker 2: you understand and know the presidents so uniquely. The ability

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Speaker 2: for him to fill a room and to take the

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Speaker 2: room in whatever direction he wants it to go in,

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Speaker 2: even if the room.

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Speaker 1: Isn't ready for it.

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Speaker 2: I think that was really a pair of today's starting

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Speaker 2: off with right at the beginning, where after just a

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Speaker 2: few days ago of suggesting maybe we d next Canada

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Speaker 2: as a fifty first state, today says I think it's

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Speaker 2: time to change the Gulf of actually go to the

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Speaker 2: Gulf of America. I was a classic Trump moment.

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Speaker 6: It's just amazing the guys, you know, the ultimate performer.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's just ingenius the way he you know,

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Speaker 6: the weave as he calls it. He can tie together

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Speaker 6: so many different disparate topics.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: The mainstream media they kind of grew They decided to

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Speaker 6: ignore him in large part right when his first campaign,

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Speaker 6: even during his presidency, because they really didn't understand how

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Speaker 6: he was talking to the American people. Now, obviously the

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Speaker 6: voters understood him, they got his messaging loud and clear,

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Speaker 6: but the mainstream media they didn't want to hear it.

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Speaker 6: They didn't like it. You know, they had their own

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Speaker 6: personal biases against him, so they sort of dismissed him.

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Speaker 6: But you know, you just see a performance like this

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Speaker 6: and it really is masterful.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting to watch, and there's a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: And I've been thinking about this because I think the

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Speaker 2: President thinks in like layers and a lot of us

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Speaker 2: don't think. And these little things he's doing with Canada,

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Speaker 2: these little things he's doing with Mexico, it seems like

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Speaker 2: he's trying to build some new alliance, change the relationship

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Speaker 2: into something more modern for the twenty first century. What

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Speaker 2: do you think is behind some of the stuff on Canada,

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Speaker 2: Mexico and quite frankly throw in Greenland because I think

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Speaker 2: that's part of it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's absolutely sounding like his references to

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Speaker 6: Pierre Trudeau is that the governor of Canada and he's

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Speaker 6: gonna it's been a fifty verst state. Like I think

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Speaker 6: that was devastating to Trudeau's political career. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 6: he it didn't take long for him to step down.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a reason for that because you know Trump,

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Speaker 6: Trump's comments really ridiculed him before his own. You know,

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Speaker 6: they're not only the America, the United States of America.

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Speaker 6: But you know, Trudeau's left this base. It's kind of

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Speaker 6: he came off, kind of clownish. So, uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's pretty amazing that Trump prinsident Trump hasn't even been

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Speaker 6: torn in yet for his second term and he's already

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Speaker 6: running the table on uh, you know, international relations, particularly

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Speaker 6: North America. You mentioned Canada, Mexico. You know, his his

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Speaker 6: discussion of taking on Greenland as an American territory or state.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's really the Americans. You know, Americans don't

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Speaker 6: really have a great graph for understanding of the geopolitical

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Speaker 6: importance of Greenland.

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Speaker 4: Like it's absolutely vi.

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Speaker 6: When the President explaints in clear terms about the encroachment

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Speaker 6: of Russia and China on America's interest you know, in

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Speaker 6: that region, it really becomes clear of what he's talking about.

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Speaker 6: So I think you'll continue to hear him talking about

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you've noticed that Don Junior was

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Speaker 6: over there.

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Speaker 1: Big pull them up on a big jacket today.

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Speaker 6: Really amazing. I mean, the Trump family, that President Trumps family,

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Speaker 6: their ability to frame topics in the way that you

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Speaker 6: know everybody Americans can understand is really remarkable. And you know,

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Speaker 6: the success shows at the ballot box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's no doubt, and the impact is global.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, I also think the impact on Washington

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Speaker 2: is really palpable. Right now, being watching the first few

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Speaker 2: days of this new Congress, there is an urgency that

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Speaker 2: members of Congress haven't had in a long time getting

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Speaker 2: the Lake and Riley Act done today even as the

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Speaker 2: Carter State funeral was going on. In the old days,

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Speaker 2: they would have skipped work altogether. Today, not today, they

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Speaker 2: were doing the business even as the funeral was starting.

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Speaker 2: There seems to be a sense of urgency. How does

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Speaker 2: the president keep that going so that progress doesn't stop

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Speaker 2: and he gets that agenda done real quickly.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think you know, you've lived through the through

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Speaker 6: the first you know, President Trump's first term, uh, the

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Speaker 6: intervening debacle of the Biden presidency. I think that you know,

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Speaker 6: it couldn't be a greater contrast between the strengths of

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Speaker 6: the executive office that we have with President Trump in

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Speaker 6: his first term and now in his second term, and

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Speaker 6: just the sheer weakness of Biden. I mean, there's nothing

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Speaker 6: that politicians on Capitol Hill respond to quicker than is

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Speaker 6: the exercise the power. Right that's there that's what they

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Speaker 6: react to, that's what they believe in, that's what runs

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Speaker 6: their world. And President Trump has it like the outcome

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Speaker 6: of the election was just so overwhelming and across so

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Speaker 6: many demographics. Uh, and that popular vote in the Electoral College,

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Speaker 6: like they respect that. The power of authority now that

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Speaker 6: he carries, you know, and he also has, you know,

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Speaker 6: the ten years of knowledge on how to operate the presidency,

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Speaker 6: the executive branch and how to well it's a legislature

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Speaker 6: which just didn't have in twenty seventeen. So I think

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Speaker 6: you see them reacting to that. He's got a very

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Speaker 6: clear agenda. He's purged the Congress of you know, his

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Speaker 6: most heinous haters through primaries and just you know, they've

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Speaker 6: lost races because they were no good. So I think

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Speaker 6: that again, you know, that commands the respect of these members,

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Speaker 6: and I think you'll see that carry through his agenda.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people ask us, and you

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Speaker 2: were at the center of so much of this amazing stagecraft,

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Speaker 2: the great Maga rallies. There's been nothing like it in

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Speaker 2: American history, Like what Donald Trump did.

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Speaker 1: You were a big part of that. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people probably don't know that.

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Speaker 2: What happens to the Maga rallies and all that excitement

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Speaker 2: after We're gonna have another one on January nineteenth here

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Speaker 2: in Washington.

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Speaker 1: But after that, what happens to that.

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Speaker 2: Incredible exuberant political experience that tens of millions of Americans

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Speaker 2: just couldn't We're addented to.

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Speaker 6: I'll be there on the nineteenth. I hope you will too, don't.

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Speaker 6: I think that the Trump rally, the phenomenon of that,

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Speaker 6: the ability for him to command that stage and command

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Speaker 6: the media. I think it's all part and parcel of

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Speaker 6: his success and a successful part of his presidency. So

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Speaker 6: I can't speak for the president, but I would not

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Speaker 6: be surprised to see those coming back later this year,

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Speaker 6: particularly in the midterms in twenty twenty six. It's such

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Speaker 6: a powerful tool that I don't think we've seen the

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Speaker 6: last of the Trump rallies. It's just too much a

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Speaker 6: part of the mag of movement. That's his most effective

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Speaker 6: way to speak to his supporters and to his base.

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Speaker 6: It's all become part and partial of the American culture,

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Speaker 6: and he's the center of it. So I am optimistic

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Speaker 6: that the Trump rally will continue as a cultural political

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Speaker 6: phenomenon throughout his presidency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I think they come back

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Speaker 2: at the end of this year. I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: see what that looks like. He's changed politics forever, There's

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. Michael Real quickly, some news for you,

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Speaker 2: A new mission starting in twenty twenty five. Tell us

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 6: Oh, yes, sir, So, I'm pleased to announce that I'm

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Speaker 6: forming a new government relations firm. It's called Frontline Government Relations.

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Speaker 6: We've partnered with a firm called Frontline Strategies, which is

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Speaker 6: one of President Trump's campaign's top digital marketing firms. So

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Speaker 6: you know, we're the openly MAGA America first firm and

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Speaker 6: that we're going to back the president's policies. We're going

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Speaker 6: to work with companies associations that want to back to President.

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Speaker 6: You know, so many of these lobbyists and associations in

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Speaker 6: DC are kind of playing both sides. They don't have

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Speaker 6: any real ideology, they don't have any real beliefs or ideals.

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Speaker 6: We're the opposite of that. We're Trump guys. We want

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Speaker 6: Trump to win, continue to win. So we're we're excited

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Speaker 6: about launching. We you know, got great interest from a

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Speaker 6: lot of great American companies. We have the same agenda

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Speaker 6: the President, which is creating American jobs. That's going to

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Speaker 6: be our listus test for who we work with and

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Speaker 6: who we work for is going to be It has

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Speaker 6: to be great to the American economy, has to put

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Speaker 6: our country first, and we look forward to a great

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Speaker 6: success with it.

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Speaker 1: I know the great work you do.

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Speaker 2: You're going to be a disruptor and make a lot

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Speaker 2: of change on K Street and all throughout the public

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Speaker 2: affairs world. Great to have you on, Michael. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: be checking out with you all throughout the year. But

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us today. Thank you there, thank you,

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Speaker 2: congrats send the new venture. All right, folks, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: take a quick commercial break. When we come back, it's

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Speaker 2: time to think about just how big the meta announcement

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Speaker 2: was today. No better a person to turn to than

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Speaker 2: the man who's fought censorship harder than anyone I know.

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Speaker 2: My good friend will be here in a second. Right

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Speaker 2: after these messages, we'll be talking about it in just

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Speaker 2: a few seconds.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. We're going to try to get

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Speaker 1: Mike Benson.

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Speaker 2: He's, of course the founder and executive director of the

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Speaker 2: Foundation for Freedom Online, somebody who's had a profound effect

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Speaker 2: on free speech in America, not only highlighting the censorship

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Speaker 2: machinery that stifled all of our political dialogue in America

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Speaker 2: from twenty nineteen forward, but also in creating solutions that

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Speaker 2: make sure it doesn't happen again. We're going to try

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Speaker 2: to get them on a little bit of technical difficulties.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he'll kick in here in a second, But let

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Speaker 2: me walk you through how significant the last forty eight

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Speaker 2: hours of history were. Let's start with what we talked

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Speaker 2: about just a little bit ago with Kyle Kemper Justin

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Speaker 2: Trudeau stepping down in Canada. He was a big architect

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Speaker 2: of censorship just north of our border, particularly related to

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Speaker 2: COVID a debate. He didn't allow debates on the vaccine,

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Speaker 2: debates on the origins of the virus, and joining along

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Speaker 2: with his allies like doctor Anthony Fautrii in America really

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Speaker 2: stifled any opportunity for Americans to dissent or to question

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Speaker 2: what the government is doing. We now have lots of

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Speaker 2: evidence that what the government did was wrong, but Justin

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Speaker 2: Trudeau really was a suffocant when it came to the

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Speaker 2: first Amendment in free speech in Canada, and his departure

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Speaker 2: I think opens a door, as Kyle mentioned, But it's

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Speaker 2: coupled with two other big events that have occurred in

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Speaker 2: the last few days. The State Department's Global Engagement Center,

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Speaker 2: something that we first exposed here at justin News back

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one on an agency that took your

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Speaker 2: tax dollars and then tried to create censorship across the globe,

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Speaker 2: sometimes affecting Americans here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: It shut down over the Christmas holidays. It's gone.

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Speaker 2: It was one of the architects in one of the

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Speaker 2: engines of the government industrial complex of censorship that sprung

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Speaker 2: up in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen all around US.

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Speaker 2: As the end of President Trump's first ternament. It went

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Speaker 2: out of business, it expired, it's gone. Now some of

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Speaker 2: those employers are going to other agencies. We're going to

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Speaker 2: have to keep a close eye on them. But that

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Speaker 2: was a major strike for free speech and against censorship.

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Speaker 2: And then in the last twenty four hours some major

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Speaker 2: announcements by Meta founder the founder of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg,

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Speaker 2: acknowledging that free speech needed to be made free again

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Speaker 2: on his platform. He added some big names and conservative friendly,

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Speaker 2: free speech friendly names to the board at Meta, which

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Speaker 2: is often dominated by people who didn't support President Trump.

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Speaker 2: But he also announced that Meta and Facebook was getting

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Speaker 2: out of the business of fact checking. Fact checking was

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Speaker 2: one of the backhanded tools that the political left in

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Speaker 2: America and quite frankly all across the globe in Canada

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Speaker 2: and Great Britain and elsewhere used to try to stifle debate,

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Speaker 2: stifle political discussion in America. The fact that Meta is

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Speaker 2: going to drop out of it and do what Elon

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Speaker 2: Musk has done on Twitter, which by the way, is

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Speaker 2: very popular, to move to a community notes solution a

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Speaker 2: big win for free speech, a big win for political

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Speaker 2: discourse in a country that saw a lot of it

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Speaker 2: restrained in the last four or five years. I want

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Speaker 2: to put this in a little bit of perspective because

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Speaker 2: as America comes out of this era of censorship, some

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Speaker 2: of our allies across the globe are moving into a

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Speaker 2: dark era of censorship and stifling a free speech. We

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Speaker 2: had Liz trust, the former British Prime Minister, on the

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Speaker 2: show just a few weeks ago, if you remember that,

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Speaker 2: and she talked about why her Prime minister a tenure

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Speaker 2: was so short she couldn't get her story out. Her

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Speaker 2: positions were stifled and censored by the government media and

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Speaker 2: the government a line media there. Places like Great Britain

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Speaker 2: and Europe at large, Ireland are all in reverse right now,

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Speaker 2: and that's something we've got to tackle a lot. I understand.

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Speaker 2: We've got Mike Benz now able to talk to us here. Mike,

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Speaker 2: good to have you on. We only got a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes. A big moment today with Meta. How big

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Speaker 2: is it for a strike for free speech and again censorship.

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Speaker 5: It's giant because this is really meaningful. There have been

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Speaker 5: many changes. I think Mark Zuckerberg has been skating this

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Speaker 5: way for a long time. Frankly, I think he's had

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Speaker 5: a lot of this in his heart for pretty much

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Speaker 5: since he started Facebook. And then I think he's got

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Speaker 5: a good heart, but a very weak spine. So when

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Speaker 5: pressure was applied to Facebook, he crumbled in to preserve

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Speaker 5: the business interests of Facebook.

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Speaker 7: But this has been a huge week.

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Speaker 5: Not only was Dana White added to the executive the

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Speaker 5: board of directors of Facebook, you had Nick Klegg, who

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Speaker 5: was the global head of Policy for Facebook stepping down

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Speaker 5: just two days ago. Nick Clegg was the former UK

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Speaker 5: Prime Minister. He was the one who wrote how to

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Speaker 5: Stop Brexit after Brexit had already happened, and was telling

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Speaker 5: people to join on mass Care Starmer's UK Labor Party,

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Speaker 5: which is now arresting thousands and thousands of people in

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Speaker 5: the UK. That was the man in control of speech

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Speaker 5: policies at Facebook until just two days ago, and he

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Speaker 5: has been replaced by somebody who is much more enthusiastic

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Speaker 5: about free speech. So we're seeing as personnel as policy,

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Speaker 5: the personnel at Facebook is becoming more and more free speech.

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Speaker 7: And now we see some institutional changes.

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Speaker 5: The chopping up of the fact checking arm of Facebook

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Speaker 5: means all of the jobs of the fact checkers are

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Speaker 5: going in the waste paper bin, which means the market

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Speaker 5: cap size of the censorship industry is going to be decimated.

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Speaker 7: Because remember, Meta is not just.

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Speaker 5: Facebook, It's Facebook, it's Instant, it's WhatsApp, it's threads, it

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Speaker 5: is a platform empire, and these changes are system wide.

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Speaker 5: Then you have the removal of restrictions I'm talking about

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Speaker 5: immigration and gender issues, which are major cultural vectors. You

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Speaker 5: have the removal of throttling for so called political speech,

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Speaker 5: which never really meant political speech. It only really meant

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Speaker 5: conservative speech. So everything's happening all at once, and the

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Speaker 5: timing couldn't be better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I talked to us a little bit about the demise

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Speaker 2: of the Global Engagement Center, which was another big cog

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Speaker 2: in that censorship machine, and also the symbolic demise of

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Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau and his censorship ways just in the north

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Speaker 2: of US in Canada.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Well, the Global Engagement Center has now moved. While

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Speaker 5: it's been formally shut down as an office, it has

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Speaker 5: been moved into a new hub. It's basically a transition

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Speaker 5: hub rather than a formal office, which is basically what

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Speaker 5: it has been. There's little surprise there. We've known for

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Speaker 5: some time, for about a month that the Global Engagement

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Speaker 5: Center was anticipating a shutdown and transitioning its staff to

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Speaker 5: sort of diffuse into other areas of.

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Speaker 7: The State Department.

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Speaker 5: Right now, details on that are sparse, but I suspect

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Speaker 5: it's going to be the Bureau of Democracy, Rights and Labor,

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Speaker 5: which is the traditional side of the State Department involved

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Speaker 5: in soft power projection and media activities, also in the

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Speaker 5: public affairs, public diplomacy, Bureau. But so while it's been

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Speaker 5: good that it's been formally shut down and friction will

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Speaker 5: be added to its activities. There's going to be a

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Speaker 5: tough test from the Trump White House about whether aspects

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Speaker 5: of the Global Engagement Center are going to be preserved

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Speaker 5: simply because they are useful for winning, even if winning

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Speaker 5: in a dirty way. For example, if we want to

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Speaker 5: pursue regime change in Venezuela, it could be I could

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Speaker 5: see a situation where the Western Hemisphere desk of the

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Speaker 5: State Department is petitioning the White House to preserve the

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Speaker 5: counter misinformation counter disinformation capacities and then spread that throughout

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Speaker 5: the Western Hemisphere to neighboring countries so that the pressure

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Speaker 5: can be preserved. A similar thing may continue to occur

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Speaker 5: in the Ukraine region, And then the question is who's

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Speaker 5: staffing those positions and whether they're going to use the

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Speaker 5: definition of misinformation to boomerang back on Americans.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm certain of your group. The Foundation for

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Speaker 2: Freedom Online is going to be on top of it

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Speaker 2: real quickly. Thirty seconds we've got left before the commercial break.

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Speaker 2: What's the biggest set the free speech in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five that we all should have our alert on for.

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Speaker 5: It's the EU Digital Markets Act Digital Services Act and

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Speaker 5: the growing pressure that the UK is going to put

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Speaker 5: diplomatically on the tech platforms. We're now hearing that there

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Speaker 5: may be up to a ten percent global revenue tax

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Speaker 5: on social media companies from the UK, on top of

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Speaker 5: six percent from the EU. So this is another thing

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Speaker 5: Mark Zuckerberg emphasized in a speech today, which was that

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Speaker 5: he wants to help the Trump administration fight barn government's

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Speaker 5: pressuring censorship. So that would be a huge hept if

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Speaker 5: Mark Zuckerberg hat stuck up for X when Brazil tried

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Speaker 5: to ban X, if they had said, well, then you

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Speaker 5: don't get meta either. I don't think Brazil would have

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Speaker 5: gone through with the expert, right.

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Speaker 2: I think you're exactly right. Well, I know you're going

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Speaker 2: to be on top of all these things, Mike. I'm

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Speaker 2: so sorry you're short on time. Great to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on all the great work you've done defeating censorship.

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Speaker 2: Is a great honor to have you on the show.

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Speaker 7: Thanks John, you too, good to have you on.

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Speaker 2: My friend all right, folk coming up back to the break,

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap up with a quick discussion with Matt Weinberg

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Speaker 2: about DEI in our education system. It's falling apart right

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Speaker 2: before our eyes. We'll have more of that right after

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Speaker 2: these messages.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in America.

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Speaker 2: If you've been reading justin News, know all the big

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Speaker 2: corporations that have backed away from DEI. But there's still

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Speaker 2: a lot of it going on in the education system.

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Speaker 2: A big story we had the Bidy administration shoveling millions

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Speaker 2: and millions of dollars toward DEI mandated courses and programs

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Speaker 2: in public schools across the country. Joining us to talk

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Speaker 2: more about that and why it pos is still a

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Speaker 2: continuing danger is the director of Education policy at the

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Speaker 2: Goldwater Institute, Matt Weinberg.

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Speaker 1: Matt, great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone who's followed this with surprise, but

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Speaker 2: that report, I think you guys were part of that,

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Speaker 2: finding all that money going from the Bidy adminstration to

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Speaker 2: push DEI. Federal government had its finger in this drink

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Speaker 2: a lot, didn't it.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 9: Our friends of Parents Defending Education has put out this

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Speaker 9: new report recently showing billions of billion dollars going from

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Speaker 9: the Federal Department of Education to education departments all around

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Speaker 9: the country and just pushing DEI. And so that's something

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Speaker 9: that yeah, we're seeing and fortunately, I think the momentum

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Speaker 9: is starting to run out from this. You know, we're

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Speaker 9: seeing the companies that are pulling back from this, but

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Speaker 9: when it comes to education, we.

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Speaker 8: Are seeing full seen ahead.

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Speaker 9: They're retreating in some areas, you know, pulling back on

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Speaker 9: these forced diversity statements where they're making applicants say I

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Speaker 9: support treating students differently based upon race, or I support

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Speaker 9: battling the so called you know, systemic oppression. But even

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Speaker 9: as they're making some retreats here, we're still seeing them

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Speaker 9: double down on these issues of putting DEI forward and

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Speaker 9: saying we're going to force students, for example, if they

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Speaker 9: want to graduate not just from K twelve schools to

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Speaker 9: push in it, but literally going into college state institutions

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Speaker 9: if they want to graduate from these forcing them to

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Speaker 9: go in and continue to take these courses. So we're

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Speaker 9: seeing some movement here, a lot of states and legislature

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Speaker 9: stepping in, but a lot of these institutions still pushing

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Speaker 9: it to the max to try and promote DEI.

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Speaker 2: So and that's always one of the dangerous when you

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Speaker 2: have a permanent government, right, they find different ways to

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Speaker 2: repackage the same stuff and sneak it back into the system.

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Speaker 2: How important is it for state legislators and legislatures to

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Speaker 2: get involved in this and to root this out with oversight.

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Speaker 9: It's incredibly important. I think state lawmakers have been hesitant

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Speaker 9: to get involved. But then we saw Texas based on

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Speaker 9: model policy that we worked on with the Manhattan Institute,

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Speaker 9: and said, no more should we be spending state dollars

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Speaker 9: promoting these DEI offices. So Texas and Florida, Iowa, a

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Speaker 9: whole bunch of states now have jumped on and said

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Speaker 9: we're not going to again operate one of these institutes.

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Speaker 9: It's really just fomenting racial discrimination on taxpayer's dime at

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Speaker 9: a cost of tens of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 8: So lawmakers have started to take steps there.

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Speaker 9: Now, it is absolutely critical that these same lawmakers step

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Speaker 9: in and begin protecting their students from these course mandates.

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Speaker 9: For example, to say, okay, we may have protected you

946
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Speaker 9: from these mandatory trainings from a DEI office, but you're

947
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Speaker 9: still being told you have to go take a semester's

948
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Speaker 9: worth of courses on diversity equity and inclusion and structural

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Speaker 9: racism and oppression and learn about your privilege.

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Speaker 8: So that is a huge issue where state lawmakers now

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Speaker 8: have an opportunity to step in there.

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Speaker 9: We at the Goldwater Institute, with our partners at Speech First,

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Speaker 9: put forward the Freedom from a Doctrination Act to say

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Speaker 9: no more, are you going to do this? Reforms like

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Speaker 9: that are absolutely critical for state lawmakers to recognize education

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Speaker 9: is a primarily state issue and for these public institutions

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Speaker 9: that are paid for and the taxpayer's diamond with students

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Speaker 9: who are paying tuition as state taxpayers, really come in

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Speaker 9: there and say no more, are we going to hose

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Speaker 9: you and soak you for these DEI courses that you

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Speaker 9: have no choice but to take if you want to graduate.

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Speaker 2: And you said something were found that so many Americas,

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Speaker 2: I'd say, all their heads were bobbing. Yes, it's time

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Speaker 2: to start teaching our students to stop indoctrinating. And I

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Speaker 2: think that that's the moment that we're at where a

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Speaker 2: lot of systems could flip in the next year or

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Speaker 2: two back to the way we used to be a

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Speaker 2: little bit more talk about I got about a minute left,

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the teachers' union as sort

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Speaker 2: of an intersection and a force trying to keep this

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Speaker 2: going in spite of the public pressure.

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Speaker 9: You know, we saw as early as COVID, right when

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Speaker 9: we saw school shutdowns and everything going on there, and

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Speaker 9: the union's coming out and saying things like, well, we

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Speaker 9: may have shut down, and but the kids they learned,

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Speaker 9: they weren't learned.

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Speaker 8: Words like protests and resistance.

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Speaker 9: They have made clear that their priority is these activist

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Speaker 9: pushes for agitation and frankly inflaming racial divisions and promoting

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Speaker 9: a lot of these DEI materials. So this is something

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Speaker 9: that we have seen in their explicit documents as an

982
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Speaker 9: engine pushing DEI. So they at the K twelve level

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Speaker 9: obviously among the biggest culprits promoting this and then feeding

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Speaker 9: that in to the university system as well, which then

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Speaker 9: trains the next generation of teachers, and so you have

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Speaker 9: this cycle. So again it's incumbent on state lonmakers to

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Speaker 9: step in and deal with this issue at both the

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Speaker 9: K twelve and the higher education policy area.

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Speaker 2: When we were doing some of the work on this,

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Speaker 2: it was teachers who disagreed with their own unions that

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Speaker 2: first alerted us to some of the insanity that was

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Speaker 2: being taught to both teachers and students. It was good

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Speaker 2: to see the teachers part where the unions and tell

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Speaker 2: us the truth about it. Matt, real quick a, how

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Speaker 2: do people again in touch with the Goldwater Institute.

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Speaker 9: I can go on our website Goldwater Institute dot org

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Speaker 9: social media to see the latest reports, news information that

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Speaker 9: we're putting out there and the wins that we're racking

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Speaker 9: up against EEU.

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Speaker 2: You are racking up some pretty impressive wins and it's

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Speaker 2: a fantastic reference. I've used it for journalism for a

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Speaker 2: long time. So congratulations, thanks for the great work you do.

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Speaker 1: Matt. Thank you all right, folks, it's hard to believe

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Speaker 1: the hour went away like that.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe real quickly, but good news is a

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Speaker 2: mandal lead back tomorrow night. Until then, we're going to

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Speaker 2: hand off to the amazing Grant Stitchfeld. He'll take you

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Speaker 2: for the next hour. We'll move back tomorrow night.