Speaker 1: All right, let's get it going right here and right now.
Speaker 1: This is Eyes up Here, and you're listening to an
Speaker 1: all new, brand new, spanking edition of the Eyes up
Speaker 1: Here podcasts exclusively on our Patreoon page, but also simulcast
Speaker 1: a little bit later in the week on the Creative
Speaker 1: Control podcast Network. If you didn't know by now minus
Speaker 1: chat every single week. I'm joined here by the host
Speaker 1: of the show, the Twitch Queen in her leopard her
Speaker 1: leopard print, very very stylish today, the one and only
Speaker 1: Queen of extreme fancy. I'm stylish every day. Come on now,
Speaker 1: let's kick ass. Seriously. Are they sweats you have? Are
Speaker 1: you business on the top? Party on the bottom? I
Speaker 1: actually match, but I have stretching pants on the bottom.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm wearing freeze today. Very fancy. Yes. I
Speaker 1: did my first Twitch live stream last night and I
Speaker 1: was very pleased with it. It was great. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun and people. You know what
Speaker 1: was nice about it. People were seemed generally happy to
Speaker 1: see me on there. That's cool. Yeah, and that made
Speaker 1: my heart happy. So I really liked it, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to building a Twitch empire, if you will.
Speaker 1: So I liked it a lot. It was fun. I
Speaker 1: love interacting with fans and I like live streaming, so
Speaker 1: it was it was the perfect fit. It's very cool.
Speaker 1: I told you I checked in, you know, I was
Speaker 1: watching what's going on, very very chatty the group very
Speaker 1: I asked a lot of questions. Now, you were doing
Speaker 1: an ae W watch along, which I found to be
Speaker 1: very interesting because I saw you explicitly say on Twitter
Speaker 1: that you will not watch raw sow's start to dip
Speaker 1: your toe bag into the wrestling watching game. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, ae W is the cool product right now,
Speaker 1: let's face it. So I haven't watched it. I watched
Speaker 1: it one time. I think it was like the first episode.
Speaker 1: I watched an hour of it and that was And
Speaker 1: they've been on the air for two years now, so
Speaker 1: that's all I've seen. So the problem with these watch
Speaker 1: alongs on Twitch is all the wrestlers are doing them.
Speaker 1: So you're fighting for these fans to sit with you
Speaker 1: instead of sitting with Joe Schmo to watch wrestling, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that that's the hard thing
Speaker 1: is to draw people to your channel and keep them there.
Speaker 1: So I was pleased with the turnout that I had.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot of people do these
Speaker 1: watch alongs and they have their fan base, but I
Speaker 1: just thank everybody that came and sat with me because
Speaker 1: I did I know nothing about the product. I knew
Speaker 1: maybe a handful of guys that were on there, but
Speaker 1: what I did see I liked. I didn't pay too
Speaker 1: much attention to the product because the chat was just
Speaker 1: flying by, and I just wanted to acknowledge everyone. Everybody
Speaker 1: who followed, I wanted to give them a shout out,
Speaker 1: all answering questions. I mean, you really have to keep
Speaker 1: watching that chat just it just goes by so quickly.
Speaker 1: So it was hard to watch the matches and keep
Speaker 1: up with the chat at the same time. So I
Speaker 1: have to learn how to multitask. But yes, we'll have
Speaker 1: to do that. And it's uh. And like I said,
Speaker 1: it was very chatty. I just could see constant constant,
Speaker 1: you know, new question or new copying. Uh. But you know,
Speaker 1: to preview what we'll do on Patreon this week, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you more about what you thought. And I
Speaker 1: know you see a lot, but I'm asking we thought
Speaker 1: about aw a little bit more elaboratively because I did
Speaker 1: check out a little bit since you did. I watched
Speaker 1: it a little uh so I'll give you some of
Speaker 1: my thoughts as well, because I don't really I don't
Speaker 1: watch wrestling actively anymore, tough. But there were some familiar
Speaker 1: faces on that show. Yes, and there's some interesting characters
Speaker 1: that we'll discuss a little bit more depth. Yes, I yeah.
Speaker 1: And some of them blew me away, like just their presence.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that is creative. So yes, we
Speaker 1: can discuss that more later. And yes, this episode had
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg on. Yes, and he did something he did.
Speaker 1: If they have Snoop and he's not gonna do anything,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really mad. But we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: The only thing I just find very funny about that
Speaker 1: is Snoop doesn't look like he ages much, and he is.
Speaker 1: He's a lot older than you would think. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: only like I know, the fans in the chat were saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Snoop's losing his hair. They were saying how his hairline
Speaker 1: was kind of receding. But I mean his face is
Speaker 1: just the same, the same. Must it's got to be
Speaker 1: something medicinal in the marijuana that the aging process from
Speaker 1: continuing smoking some weed. If that, if it reverses your
Speaker 1: aging process because man, yeah he looks the same, but
Speaker 1: he looked like he was having a good time. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk about him later for sure. Yeah, absolutely, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that, and I'll go into the Patreon extras,
Speaker 1: you know, at the tail end of the show. But
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw that out there because I
Speaker 1: don't want to give too much. I want to hear
Speaker 1: what we have to say. But you got to join
Speaker 1: the Patreon channel for that. But we're gonna be doing
Speaker 1: a lot with Twitch. When you kind of get comfortable
Speaker 1: on your feet, well, we're gonna we're gonna give a
Speaker 1: few minutes of the show live. We're gonna show what
Speaker 1: it's like on Francine's side of things to record and
Speaker 1: uh and to broadcast. But that's once we get comfortable
Speaker 1: with it, right. You're lucky. I knew how to turn
Speaker 1: on the Twitch when I went live. When I pushed
Speaker 1: the button last night, I had no picture and I
Speaker 1: was like, guys, and they were like, we can hear you,
Speaker 1: we can't see you. So I started to panic and
Speaker 1: thank god, Hopes ran over and he had to do
Speaker 1: something with the camera and then boom, there it was.
Speaker 1: But if I was by myself, it wouldn't happened. So,
Speaker 1: so what else is going on? Before our guest joins
Speaker 1: us today, What what's going on in the world of
Speaker 1: the Queen? Just been really really busy, you know, with
Speaker 1: my other projects that I'm doing in the household. And
Speaker 1: we gave the kids one more week off from school. Okay,
Speaker 1: we did, so they're just you know, getting ready you
Speaker 1: start up next week, and so trying to keep them occupied.
Speaker 1: My mom had a bunch of doctor appointments. We got
Speaker 1: those done. I have to go for a mammogram, so
Speaker 1: you'll get a booby report after after I do that. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: well yeah, hopefully all as well, but very nice, yes, hopefully.
Speaker 1: My girls are okay. And this is the first week
Speaker 1: I took a break from cameo, so next week I
Speaker 1: got to get back on track and start recording again.
Speaker 1: I haven't done any cameos for twenty twenty one, so
Speaker 1: little hand, I will be a sexy police officer. Ooh,
Speaker 1: and I will read you your rights. So interesting. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: it's just coming up. Look at the creativity, that's what
Speaker 1: I really I got to tip my cap, which I
Speaker 1: you know, I'm wearing one I got to tip my
Speaker 1: cap to the creativity because you always come up with something,
Speaker 1: isn't it. So let's see. It's like, you know, the
Speaker 1: the police officer, so you know you don't want anybody
Speaker 1: to get two out of hand because you'll lay down
Speaker 1: the law. Yes, I'm going to read them their rights
Speaker 1: and put them in their place, and maybe you have
Speaker 1: to bend them over and use my stick on them,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happened. I still say you can
Speaker 1: get lost in the cameo rabbit hole if you just
Speaker 1: go on to watch a couple like of the previews.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I mean I think whatever ones
Speaker 1: you have that are public, I've probably seen them all twice.
Speaker 1: And then I just go down whoever the related searches
Speaker 1: are and it's all these different cameras. Hey Bill, happy birthday.
Speaker 1: You should see the private ones. They're the juice one.
Speaker 1: They're the ones that no one gets to see but
Speaker 1: me and the person who orders them. But it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. I get the report on that,
Speaker 1: all right. Well, let's jump in here. So speaking of
Speaker 1: we were talking about Twitch before. I know this guy
Speaker 1: is on Twitch, but he's a podcast and sword a great,
Speaker 1: great ss the podcast world. And now we're introducing France
Speaker 1: into all these personalities because she's already met Hughesy, so
Speaker 1: she if she met Hughsy, she has to meet the
Speaker 1: great Mike Durbin. Mike, welcome to the show. Good morning, Francine.
Speaker 1: It's a big honor. Thank you very much. Well, of
Speaker 1: course it is, but thank you. He's putting himself over
Speaker 1: wearing his own shirt, which I love the branding right there,
Speaker 1: Mike Durbin show, love it. Thanks for coming on. I'm
Speaker 1: hearing all this stuff about Get My Go. I can't
Speaker 1: get away from it. Have you ever listened to it
Speaker 1: or watched it? You know, a blurb here and there.
Speaker 1: I have kids, I have my mom. I can't. I
Speaker 1: don't even listen to my own show, let alone anybody else's.
Speaker 1: But I do want to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: Someday we'd love to have you on. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: I need to, because this is all that Chad talks about,
Speaker 1: as you guys, he's obsessed. So in our circle, in
Speaker 1: our circle of the brand, Creative Control, Two Men, Power Trip,
Speaker 1: and a little bit beyond that, it's it's become, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty popular in our little group. You are the ECW
Speaker 1: of podcast. You are? You are like that that they
Speaker 1: called us an indie promotion. I beg to differ. I
Speaker 1: don't believe we were in indie promotion, but you're You're
Speaker 1: that show that's so underground cult following, but people are
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. Yeah, and I need to know why.
Speaker 1: I need to I need to figure out what the
Speaker 1: deal is. So I'm very intrigued. I would first, you
Speaker 1: probably would have to know a little bit about the
Speaker 1: two or three gentlemen who we I wouldn't say target
Speaker 1: but parody. If you knew a little bit about them,
Speaker 1: you really understand it. But there are people who have
Speaker 1: just watched it or listened to it that didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about these people going into it, and they became
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. People tell me that they watched the
Speaker 1: shows three or four times because there's so much Like Hughsey.
Speaker 1: You met Hughsey, Oh, Chad, Chad does it. Chad rewatches
Speaker 1: him a lot, so thank you, Chaed. Hughsey. Like, if
Speaker 1: Hughsey's on, he's not on every episode, but if he's on,
Speaker 1: he is rapid fire with the humor and the shots take.
Speaker 1: So you really have to watch it a few times
Speaker 1: to catch everything. Well, I'm actually doing his show today. Wow,
Speaker 1: he got me. Yes, so, yes, he was very funny.
Speaker 1: We had him on what a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, about three weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it seems like a fun a fun group of guys.
Speaker 1: And I know the one character that you guys kind
Speaker 1: of heal on, actually thought he was going to be
Speaker 1: my co host. So that's in I've never spoken to him.
Speaker 1: Well see, in his mind, in his world, you don't
Speaker 1: actually have to speak to him or have an agreement
Speaker 1: with him before he'll go on the air and start
Speaker 1: saying that he's going to be the new Jake the
Speaker 1: Snake co host. You know, he never spoke to Jake
Speaker 1: the Snake, but he went on the air, and he
Speaker 1: went on the shows and he said he spoke to
Speaker 1: Jake the Snake. Just countless other superstars and it's the
Speaker 1: only ones that actually came to Fruition were Vampiro and
Speaker 1: Dan Severn and those lasted a handful of shows each
Speaker 1: one of them. You know, they just they figured out
Speaker 1: with this guy's ruse that he was just a you know,
Speaker 1: a big talker. Is he a compulsive liar or is
Speaker 1: there something wrong? He's a compulsive everything everything something wrong.
Speaker 1: I can't make fun of people like I just can't.
Speaker 1: I can't do that. But if they lie, it's like
Speaker 1: okay on gloves. Yeah, it's it's a lot of lying
Speaker 1: and deception and smoking mirrors. So yeah, definitely smoking mirrors,
Speaker 1: smoking crack. Well, well yeah, there's okay. Well how did
Speaker 1: you get involved in this whole web of Get My Go?
Speaker 1: Were you guys friends before this all started? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were all friends. The three main people, Joe Feenie, who
Speaker 1: you've also had on your show, Hughesy, and myself. We
Speaker 1: were all in the Creative Control Network, that's Joe's network,
Speaker 1: and we would always do each other's shows anyway for
Speaker 1: the past year or two. And then we two guys
Speaker 1: that were on the Gentleman's Network who we mock and parody.
Speaker 1: Two of them defected and they they saw what was
Speaker 1: going on, they saw the behind the curtain and the
Speaker 1: and they decided to leave and they they wanted to
Speaker 1: come on one of our shows to get their story out.
Speaker 1: So I said, sure, you can come on the Mike
Speaker 1: Durban Show and just tell all. And we had them on.
Speaker 1: It was me, Joe, Hughsey and these two other gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Rad Rob and another guy. Ah okay, good Yeah. So
Speaker 1: they they told the story and it was fascinating and
Speaker 1: we knew a lot of it. We predicted a lot
Speaker 1: of it. We kind of knew what was going on,
Speaker 1: but these guys told the truth and and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: then the guy but the week after that came out
Speaker 1: the other guy, his name is, we call him Johnny Podcasting,
Speaker 1: or that's what he calls himself. You know, he doesn't
Speaker 1: call himself that anymore. But uh, he threw in the towel.
Speaker 1: He did this sad, pathetic goodbye episode where he made
Speaker 1: up a bunch of excuses why he was going to
Speaker 1: stop podcasting and all this stuff. And you know, sure enough,
Speaker 1: I think it was twelve days later or something, Chad, Uh,
Speaker 1: he came back and something like that. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: out of retirement. He came out of retirement, and it
Speaker 1: was it was he came back a shell of his
Speaker 1: former self. And so we did we did a listen
Speaker 1: along of his goodbye episode and it really came out
Speaker 1: well and people loved it. So we just kept doing
Speaker 1: more and more of him. And then we started going
Speaker 1: back in his back catalog because he's got four hundred
Speaker 1: plus shows. This this is a guy that that thought
Speaker 1: that quantity was more important than quality, so he just
Speaker 1: shipped out where whatever he could. And you know, we
Speaker 1: got four hundred plus shows to go back and do now,
Speaker 1: so holy moly. And how is his viewership? He never
Speaker 1: it was It was listenership. It was mostly audio, okay.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you go back and you listen
Speaker 1: to his shows then or now, they're not good at all.
Speaker 1: You couldn't tell him that because he lied and he
Speaker 1: he allegedly bought uh downloads and clickfarms and did all
Speaker 1: this shady stuff, you know, trying to cheat and get ahead, Okay,
Speaker 1: and it's all been confirmed by his various people in
Speaker 1: his organization. But wow, yeah, yeah, so yeah, exactly, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Yeah. I I I hear a ton about
Speaker 1: you guys from from Chad over here. So I'm always intrigued.
Speaker 1: And seriously, I love fun stuff. I like in wrestling.
Speaker 1: I always liked Gada, Like the haha stuff just popped
Speaker 1: me every single time. So if I can just sit
Speaker 1: there and laugh, like that's a good time to make
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was, because I mean, for me, again,
Speaker 1: I've said this, you know, countless times now, it's not
Speaker 1: an ego thing. I never have time to listen to
Speaker 1: other guys podcasts because of all the ones that you do,
Speaker 1: it's hard to cycle out of maybe the few that
Speaker 1: you do listen to because you get burned out. But
Speaker 1: I stumbled on to get my go because Jeff Lane
Speaker 1: was on, and you know, like Jeff Lane, I'm just
Speaker 1: curious to see what you're talking about. And I remembered
Speaker 1: I did this guy's show last year, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know this guy from and I went into my
Speaker 1: whole story. But what I love about what they do
Speaker 1: on the show is the comedic aspect of it. And
Speaker 1: it's not I would I would not say any of
Speaker 1: it is nasty, hateful, you know, derogatory. It's done in
Speaker 1: a parody fashion. And if you understand radio, if you
Speaker 1: understand podcasting and comedy, it clicked for me right off
Speaker 1: the bat because these guys have a great comedic timing
Speaker 1: and a great comedic response, so to me, it was
Speaker 1: entertaining as hell. And then just to happen to know
Speaker 1: the guy on the inside made it all better and
Speaker 1: they do a great job, the three of them. Did
Speaker 1: we compare this to like Mystery Science Theater, Yes, like
Speaker 1: mid Science Theater. I say, it's like Opie and Anthony's
Speaker 1: j October or anytime Howard Stern would pull a clip
Speaker 1: of a competing radio station and play it and destroy it.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Okay, Well, I'm intrigued, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to look into this further and see what
Speaker 1: we can do to be mean spirited. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that I cut out of it because I
Speaker 1: I edit everything and produce it, so I cut out
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Some of it's really harsh and
Speaker 1: I usually take that out. But yeah, it's it's more
Speaker 1: comedy than than straight you know attacks. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: that a lot. But if you're the person who is
Speaker 1: happening to, it's hard to kind of figure that line out.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing. Yeah, Well, the thing is, it's
Speaker 1: all everything we say is true or we Like Vince
Speaker 1: Drusso does on the casting of the Marks, he says
Speaker 1: that he uses the the guy's own words against them.
Speaker 1: They play Dave Sharer's words, you know, Dave Meltz or
Speaker 1: all these guys Mike Johnson, they play their words and
Speaker 1: then they make fun of that. That's all we do
Speaker 1: is we play excerpts of these people's shows and then
Speaker 1: we just goof on it because it's ripe for the picking,
Speaker 1: you know, mm hmm, understood. Okay, Well, I yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna look into that if you want to just dip
Speaker 1: your toe into the water, if you just want pure comedy.
Speaker 1: The cold open of every show usually yeah, it's usually
Speaker 1: the first maybe five or seven minutes of the show.
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty much. I just collect bits and pieces
Speaker 1: of other shows that talk about get My Go, like
Speaker 1: every week on Lines, Tigers and Bears and Disco with
Speaker 1: Disco in Ferno and Vince Verusto. They talk about us
Speaker 1: on Conan and Disco in Ferno show they mentioned us.
Speaker 1: Uh wow, Vince's casting the Marks. Sometimes we're going to
Speaker 1: mention we mentioned you on here because a piece an
Speaker 1: episode together from you popping into the for you guys, Mark,
Speaker 1: he's warming me up to the whole. It's applied a
Speaker 1: couple of clips, you know. I mean, it's just helping
Speaker 1: out the industry. I'm going to see how Boozy who'sy
Speaker 1: uh handles me and treats me today and uh, if
Speaker 1: that goes well, then well we'll continue. But how is
Speaker 1: quarantine working out for you? Is your I'm not sure
Speaker 1: where you are. Is your area still heavy on the mask?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm in Chicago? Okay? Oh yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: you can't tell Chicago. My husband's from Illinois, what town? Everywhere?
Speaker 1: They lived all over the place, Bloomington, Peoria. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: sister in law lives in Normal. They're yeah, well they're
Speaker 1: they're all there, so we're not. But yeah, so you're
Speaker 1: Chicago okay, yeah, yeah North suburbs. Yeah, you guys got
Speaker 1: shut down. We were We were supposed to go visit
Speaker 1: my in laws around Thanksgiving and a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: before my husband comes down. He goes, we're not going,
Speaker 1: And I said, what happened? And he goes, All the
Speaker 1: restaurants are closed, like they went backwards and everything is closed.
Speaker 1: He goes, well, we'll just have to sit in for
Speaker 1: two weeks. I said, I don't want to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was really bad at first, and then it got better.
Speaker 1: It looked like everything was going to start, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff did open up. I could go to the gym again. Uh,
Speaker 1: you could go to the gym and you could wear
Speaker 1: your mask if you wanted to. Then it became you
Speaker 1: can take the mask off when you're on the machine
Speaker 1: or if you're on the treadmill, and then now it's
Speaker 1: pure lockdown. Now the gyms are open, but you cannot
Speaker 1: go in the locker room, so you got to just
Speaker 1: go in as is. You can't bring anything in with you.
Speaker 1: You have to wear your mask the whole time. Like
Speaker 1: I tried going on the treadmill with a mask on.
Speaker 1: Do you know hard? I always see That's the first
Speaker 1: thing I thought of, was treadmill. If somebody has yea
Speaker 1: our gym, does it? You know, it's not required. You
Speaker 1: see people doing it. But even with weights and stuff,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sweating like crazy, I'm breathing hot. I
Speaker 1: would have to off. I can't even picture doing treadmill
Speaker 1: with the mask on. That's tough. Yeah, And the restaurants
Speaker 1: are closed, like they got the little ten set up
Speaker 1: outside like that's the way they get around it. It's
Speaker 1: outdoor dining. But you know it's it's probably worse because
Speaker 1: it's very close quarters. It's it's a small tent, you know,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it sucks. It sucks all over the place.
Speaker 1: Do you You You don't have to tell us, but do
Speaker 1: you have like a shoot job besides the podcasting. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: Do you go to work or can travel for work? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thank the gods I have still been able to work.
Speaker 1: I haven't missed out on anything. So yeah, very good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a rock guy. He's you know, he's always got
Speaker 1: his instruments. He's very talented video editor. And it's one
Speaker 1: of these things with you know, the podcasting medium being
Speaker 1: what it is now, is how people kind of get connected.
Speaker 1: And what he did as a specialty to kind of
Speaker 1: get himself like on the map was great, Mike. If
Speaker 1: you could tell her Francine all about that, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't meet her before he penetrated stark ast
Speaker 1: in a way that literally cho nobody could do what
Speaker 1: he did. I was at the last one in Chicago, yes,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't the first one. There was two interest.
Speaker 1: I went to the second one, Okay, I went to
Speaker 1: the first one, and yeah, I did a little documentary
Speaker 1: at the first one, okay, and I filmed a little,
Speaker 1: you know, I filmed a lot, and then I presented
Speaker 1: the footage to Vince Russo and then he and I
Speaker 1: watched it and then we added commentary on it afterward.
Speaker 1: Oh so is this another parody? It is this? I
Speaker 1: think you will love this. You can I see this?
Speaker 1: Is it on YouTube? It's on my YouTube? Yeah, YouTube
Speaker 1: dot com. Slash mic derband and the full show. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna yeah. I like I like more so than watching
Speaker 1: like a raw or a SmackDown or whatever. I love
Speaker 1: the backstage stuff and I love I love doing conventions.
Speaker 1: They're like my favorite thing because I love interacting with fans.
Speaker 1: But saying like different things that you know you might
Speaker 1: not catch intrigues me. So you might have caught some
Speaker 1: of the boys in some awkward moments, which is fun.
Speaker 1: A lot of the filming, a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: I did in that is it's targeted on the fans. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great. Well that's that's a whole doc in itself.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Vince, Actually, after we were done, Vince was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do a full length documentary on just
Speaker 1: the wrestling fan, the hardcore Mark because he's he's fascinated
Speaker 1: by it. He just does and get it. You know.
Speaker 1: He came on our show early on. Yeah, and remember
Speaker 1: what he said to me. He's like, as a female,
Speaker 1: how can you hug these freaking jembroni smelly marks? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Vince, you're killing it for me, Like I
Speaker 1: love my fans, stop it. He's like, they smell, they're fat,
Speaker 1: they're this good Lord. He's right though. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you don't have to say it, because you know,
Speaker 1: but there are a certain element of a certain percentage
Speaker 1: of the wrestling fans that they just for some reason,
Speaker 1: they've never been acquainted with a bar of soap the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of you have you ever
Speaker 1: heard of Shimmer Wrestling. Yeah, it's it's the all women's
Speaker 1: so they I don't know if they're based out of Chicago,
Speaker 1: but they do two huge weekends here a year. So
Speaker 1: I've gone to that a couple of times. And it's
Speaker 1: in a small like Eagles ballroom kind of thing, and
Speaker 1: it's just the smell when you walk in there, it's
Speaker 1: like forty five or fifty, you know, sweaty, and it's
Speaker 1: just brings me back. Yeah. So all the girls, all
Speaker 1: the girls that their their gimmick tables set up around
Speaker 1: the perimeter of the of the building and you just
Speaker 1: I'm watching these guys, you know, grab one of the
Speaker 1: girls for pictures, you know, pre covid of course, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, these poor girls. I feel so
Speaker 1: bad for them. But yeah, the worst I've said it before,
Speaker 1: The worst is the arm when they put the arm
Speaker 1: around you and the sweat from their arms kit is
Speaker 1: all over your shoulder and it stinks like you then
Speaker 1: your clothing stinks. So I always bring like a fruity
Speaker 1: like a Victoria's Secret spray or something, because that stuff lingers.
Speaker 1: And I don't want anybody to think it's me, Like, no,
Speaker 1: they know it's not you. I hope that they do,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it not everyone, but there there are some
Speaker 1: people who just you know, there's a hat. I would
Speaker 1: call it the Freedo stitch. You know, it smells like
Speaker 1: a bag of freedom. I enjoy FreeDOS. I would call
Speaker 1: it a hunderball cheese or as cheese or whatever you
Speaker 1: want to swamp ass under ball cheese. Did you say later?
Speaker 1: I'm assuming, But yeah I do miss conventions though. That's
Speaker 1: the one thing like that's been lacking because I kind
Speaker 1: of got back into it the last couple of years
Speaker 1: and now it's there. You know. We were trying to
Speaker 1: plan for this year and I have a bunch of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't even think I'm going to
Speaker 1: do them this year. Like the way the world is going,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't see it like
Speaker 1: returning to normal anytimes. I was ready to follow you
Speaker 1: to Vegas if you were going to Vegas this year. Help.
Speaker 1: I thought podcast was going to be in Vegas last year,
Speaker 1: and I had everything set up, and then I talked
Speaker 1: to Conrad and he's like, and I said, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so I cancel that, but I'm ready to go, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I heard the Vegas one was kind of rough, just
Speaker 1: the layout of it because it was at two different
Speaker 1: hotels and they weren't near each other, and it was
Speaker 1: just a big hassle. So I was actually going to
Speaker 1: go to the second one, and I bought tickets and everything,
Speaker 1: and then I just canceled it because I just I
Speaker 1: knew once they announced that it was going to be
Speaker 1: at two hotels nowhere near each other, I knew it
Speaker 1: was going to be a hassles. It's hard. Yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. A lot of people canceled, like I don't
Speaker 1: know if that was the one the Undertaker was supposed
Speaker 1: to be at and Rick Flair, but all the big
Speaker 1: names got pulled and I just I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go. And we're still waiting to
Speaker 1: see about WrestleMania this year because Russell COM's attached to
Speaker 1: that and it's supposed to be in Tampa, but it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's in April. Is everything going to be
Speaker 1: okay by April? I don't know. I just don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: they were talking about last night's schools they may push
Speaker 1: back to April twentieth, just a two day return for
Speaker 1: certain kids, and I think it was fourth grade and up,
Speaker 1: and superintendent was like, hey, yeah, well, my daughter's a senior.
Speaker 1: I really want her to have her senior year memories.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, that was the last thing I
Speaker 1: would have said at this meeting because it's so crazy.
Speaker 1: Well you do twitch? I'm told, no, no, you don't
Speaker 1: do twitch. I said, you do twitch? Well, then there.
Speaker 1: I did my first live last night, and I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a big cluster. In the beginning.
Speaker 1: I had no picture. Well, since you'ry out of work things,
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you a couple of questions.
Speaker 1: But if you if you're not on Twitch, then what
Speaker 1: do you do in there? Are you going to play
Speaker 1: games or just answer questions? It was my first one.
Speaker 1: So last night I did the just chatting where I
Speaker 1: was just answering questions. We did an ae W watch along.
Speaker 1: So I have two monitors, two big monitors, So the
Speaker 1: second monitor, I had the TV hooked up to it
Speaker 1: and I was able to watch wrestling on it, which
Speaker 1: I haven't watched in years. So that was fun because
Speaker 1: they were filling me in on angles and whatever. I
Speaker 1: want to try to think of like different things to
Speaker 1: do just to keep it fresh and not sit here
Speaker 1: and answer questions every week. So I have to figure
Speaker 1: something out. But you know, it was my first one.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to affiliate because you need
Speaker 1: so many episodes, so many minutes, And once that happens
Speaker 1: then I'll I'll get the creative juices flowing in my
Speaker 1: head and figure some stuff out. Do you play video
Speaker 1: games at all? If I do, it's usually old school
Speaker 1: and the only current one is Mario Kart, which is
Speaker 1: not current. I'm not very good at it, but I did.
Speaker 1: I have a Twitch guy Jay, who's been great, and
Speaker 1: I told him if I do play video games, it's
Speaker 1: going to be the older ones because everybody's playing among us,
Speaker 1: and I hate among us. I tried it with my
Speaker 1: kids and I was like, this is the dumbest game.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I'm sorry, I'm just old. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd rather play Donkey Kong or Pac Man or something.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is. So you got
Speaker 1: one step ahead of me. Kill people, your sus and
Speaker 1: you kill people and then you no one knows who's
Speaker 1: killing who. So then you all have a meeting and
Speaker 1: emergency meeting. Oh okay, all right, Mike and Chad would say, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean, I don't know. I'm sure. I
Speaker 1: think I've heard a variation of that said in this house,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it came out as among us
Speaker 1: because my little one. So that's interesting. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: on the Donkey Kong train with you. Yeah, just do
Speaker 1: you just want to keep them, you know, amused and
Speaker 1: you're basically just answering questions anyway. So I might try
Speaker 1: to cook if I could figure out, you know, for that,
Speaker 1: I can't cook in front of my monitor, So you
Speaker 1: have to do it on your phone, which is difficult
Speaker 1: to show everything. So I don't know. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: You don't want to have a desk griddle and just
Speaker 1: be able to flip some pancakes while you're you're twitching.
Speaker 1: It's in flapjacks in the air that hit the ceiling
Speaker 1: come back. I don't know what I'm going to do,
Speaker 1: but you know me, if if I need to engage,
Speaker 1: I will figure it out ways to keep them occupied. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you don't watch, you don't watch the current product.
Speaker 1: I have not watched wrestling in years. The last thing
Speaker 1: I watched before last night was The Talking Shop Amania
Speaker 1: because it's so I had to watch that. I watched
Speaker 1: the Those are only two pay per views I've watched
Speaker 1: in years. Oh and I did watch the end of
Speaker 1: the one ae W pay per view because they were
Speaker 1: in the Big Stadium and it was funny as hell,
Speaker 1: and my husband's like, you have to watch this with
Speaker 1: Jericho and stuff. So I watched that. But I don't watch.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you who's employed, who's doing what, who's
Speaker 1: working with who. It's terrible, it really is. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't I haven't watched it in years, I watched you know,
Speaker 1: I watch the WWE pay per views or whatever they're called,
Speaker 1: like every month. I'll watch those just to just to
Speaker 1: keep you know a little bit, just so I'm keeping
Speaker 1: current with it, you know. But I don't enjoy it,
Speaker 1: like none of it. So I just youre a wrestling
Speaker 1: fan before. Oh yeah, big time. I mean your era,
Speaker 1: your era is my favorite era, you know, ninety seven
Speaker 1: to like three to me, I love everything that came
Speaker 1: on in that time period. And yeah, I've gotten you know,
Speaker 1: back in like around O six. I got back in
Speaker 1: a little bit around twenty eleven with cmpunk, I got
Speaker 1: back in. But other than that, it's just like now
Speaker 1: it's just so bad. I cannot get into it at all. Right,
Speaker 1: it's Chicago. Is that the odium? Yes, so you've been there?
Speaker 1: I remember, Yes, we did TV there. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: missed out on that. I never went to an ECW show,
Speaker 1: but I did go there for a I had a
Speaker 1: convention at my from my job. We had a convention there. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it was I'm like, this is where you know,
Speaker 1: barely legal or one of the East. Yeah, so like wow,
Speaker 1: that's amazing, you know. Oh and I did go to
Speaker 1: I did go to an Impact. I think it was Impact. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Impact had a pay per view there like two years ago.
Speaker 1: I went to it, and I think that was the
Speaker 1: last live show I went to. I couldn't handle the
Speaker 1: fans that were sitting next to like everybody's chanting and
Speaker 1: and I just not have a good time. So, yeah, sad.
Speaker 1: It's something. It's something I was so into for so
Speaker 1: many years. And you you were in it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's probably just got to be sad that you can't
Speaker 1: enjoy something once once your life. You know. You know
Speaker 1: what I think it might be. It's overlowed. There's so
Speaker 1: much in a week, and I have so much going
Speaker 1: on here. I can't sit for hours and watch and
Speaker 1: catch up, Like I don't have that much time on
Speaker 1: my hands. So you know, if you pick and choose,
Speaker 1: you pick the wrong thing to watch, and it sucks.
Speaker 1: That kind of ruins it for because then you say, well,
Speaker 1: this is product, I don't want to watch the other stuff.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, it's ten hours. I picked
Speaker 1: the wrong show, right, and then I don't want to
Speaker 1: watch the rest of it. I'd rather watch like I'm
Speaker 1: watching Cobra Kai right now, and I just I'm just
Speaker 1: starting season three. I just got done with the first two.
Speaker 1: I'd rather watch something like that or a reality show
Speaker 1: if I have the time, which I only have maybe
Speaker 1: an hour or two a day to watch television. I
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know. I love wrestling, but I'm
Speaker 1: not in love with it. It's like a relationship. So
Speaker 1: where do you think you would be if you were
Speaker 1: gonna if you were active right now, let's just say
Speaker 1: dial it back. You're in the middle of your you know,
Speaker 1: the height of your run. Where would you end up?
Speaker 1: Would you go based off of the best deal? Would
Speaker 1: you go off creative? Like? Where would you end up
Speaker 1: in this landscape? I never went off the best deal?
Speaker 1: But now we're talking now where little thinner than it
Speaker 1: was back in the day in terms of where to go?
Speaker 1: Where are you going? Well, if I had the knowledge
Speaker 1: that I do now, I would go with ADW. I
Speaker 1: WWE just does not do it for me. It never did,
Speaker 1: probably never will. And maybe because I work there and
Speaker 1: I know how things go down, it kind of sourediness
Speaker 1: for me because I didn't have a very good time
Speaker 1: when I was there. But I just feel like AW
Speaker 1: is on the rise, and I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: WWE is just stagnant and just hanging out. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think every company is just trying to
Speaker 1: work together to gang up one Vincent and their product,
Speaker 1: you know. And nothing against the boys. They had tremendous
Speaker 1: workers there, you know, they have so much talent. I
Speaker 1: just feel like a lot of them get held down
Speaker 1: and I know they're pitching good stuff, and it's just
Speaker 1: the office is just saying hey, because they did it
Speaker 1: to me, so I know they've done it to other people.
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Speaker 1: at eyes up here. I didn't even know you were there,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know that until I was listening to
Speaker 1: your show with Matt Macjeski and you guys ran through
Speaker 1: the roster, I didn't even know you were in WB. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So they they offered me three different deals at three
Speaker 1: different times, and the third time I took it because
Speaker 1: you know, I was thirty four, and I says, this
Speaker 1: is my last run. Let's try and make some money,
Speaker 1: even though I didn't want to do it, like my
Speaker 1: gut told me no, but I signed and I lasted
Speaker 1: six months. It was just not for me. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I was thankful for the opportunity, you know, and I
Speaker 1: met some good people and it was an experience, but
Speaker 1: it was a pleasant one. Was the majority of it.
Speaker 1: Just the bikini stuff, yeah, wow, which I've never done
Speaker 1: in my life. And you know, you go and you
Speaker 1: pitch and you know how to work because I know
Speaker 1: how to work. I had at that time, I had
Speaker 1: like thirteen years experience, so I knew what I was doing.
Speaker 1: They didn't care. Yeah, I mean, they produced that that
Speaker 1: great documentary. You think someone that was involved there would
Speaker 1: have seen what you have done in the ring, you know,
Speaker 1: and they think they would have used that. But I
Speaker 1: think Shane McMahon was the one that knew us the best.
Speaker 1: But you know he I mean, he was there when
Speaker 1: I was there, but my dealing was with Johnny Ason Vince,
Speaker 1: and Vince told me right to my face, I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about And I said it on that show.
Speaker 1: If Shane had ECW like it was supposed to be
Speaker 1: originally as a digital product, the whole course of your
Speaker 1: career could have changed because he would have pushed all
Speaker 1: the guys that he knew. He would have had that
Speaker 1: authentic ECW feel that they were going to go for.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember because that's when I was working
Speaker 1: there at the time that they were talking about for
Speaker 1: ECW being a grittier show that was going to do
Speaker 1: smaller venues. And remember the first show at the ECW Arena.
Speaker 1: You were at that one, right, The show at ECW
Speaker 1: Arena had a great gritty feel, but it just fell
Speaker 1: right in line with the rest of the programming. And
Speaker 1: had Shane McMahon brought it digital like, it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be completely different outcome for that version of ECW. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we all wanted to work, that's the thing, Like
Speaker 1: we were all ready to go, you know. And when
Speaker 1: you tell Vince McMahon to his face. I want to bump,
Speaker 1: and he tells you, we don't do that here. It's
Speaker 1: a wrestling company. What do you do? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, he didn't want men man handling me,
Speaker 1: so he frowned upon me. The Godfather's hose got destroyed
Speaker 1: every show. I wanted to take a finish here. He said,
Speaker 1: we won't do that here. I said, okay. So but
Speaker 1: you know, for me, things happened for a reason. I
Speaker 1: truly believe that. And you know, maybe I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: sitting here if that happened. Maybe my life would be different.
Speaker 1: If I don't know, I think I'm where I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be. So absolutely absolutely so it was okay, but
Speaker 1: you're living, you learn, and that's that's what I believe.
Speaker 1: But here's the beauty about the wrestling industry and the fans,
Speaker 1: And this is one good thing we can say when
Speaker 1: it comes to fans, not smelly fans, not sweaty under
Speaker 1: the armpit fans. That's six months that you were there,
Speaker 1: you literally talk about every day of your life, so
Speaker 1: you got to look at it in that context. It
Speaker 1: might not have been a big sample of time, but
Speaker 1: it had an impact. I want to say every day
Speaker 1: of my life, maybe oh every day there's a tweet
Speaker 1: out there about it, or we're talking about it at
Speaker 1: least once every like two weeks. It's funny how it
Speaker 1: always cycles back, even though it wasn't a large amount
Speaker 1: of time, and it was fifteen years ago at this point,
Speaker 1: so it's just it's That's the thing about wrestling that
Speaker 1: I do find to be one of the good things
Speaker 1: is that fans don't forget. Now, what were the first
Speaker 1: two times they offered you contract? Oh? So they offered
Speaker 1: me in I guess it was either ninety five or
Speaker 1: ninety six. I was green. I was really really green.
Speaker 1: But they Ed Cohen was calling me to be a
Speaker 1: sister love. Oh yeah, Rather listen to Bruce Pritchard. He says, no,
Speaker 1: he wasn't on board with it for whatever reason. He
Speaker 1: didn't want me there. But and I've never really, I've
Speaker 1: never met Bruce, so I don't know where the heat is.
Speaker 1: But it was Ed Cohen and another woman were fighting
Speaker 1: for me to get this position, and I talked maybe
Speaker 1: a month or two on the phone, and he just
Speaker 1: kept saying, don't tell Paul, don't tell Paul. And then
Speaker 1: I felt guilty, like I was doing something wrong. They
Speaker 1: would call my house when I was on the road
Speaker 1: and talk to my mom, and my mom would be like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make money with the other company. Leave Paul,
Speaker 1: Like she didn't get it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so I finally went to Paul and he says,
Speaker 1: I don't have their money, and I said, will give
Speaker 1: me a raise and he goes okay, and I stayed
Speaker 1: because I got a raise. And then when we went
Speaker 1: bankrupt in two thousand and one, right when when Paul
Speaker 1: started on RAW, I got a call they wanted me
Speaker 1: to be with X Factor and it was Tests I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: not test Albert, just Incredible and XPOC and it was me,
Speaker 1: and then we were going into a feud with the Heartys,
Speaker 1: but then eventually it was going to be me and Lida,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to wrestle at that point because
Speaker 1: I would have had I probably would have had to
Speaker 1: go through the performance center and get retrained a whole
Speaker 1: different way. And I was old. I figured I was old,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to put my body through that.
Speaker 1: So I just said no, right right bold age of
Speaker 1: what twenty nine thirty I think I was thirty one,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so hey, just a question was that Lisa
Speaker 1: Wolfe was that the other person who was fighting for you,
Speaker 1: because I know she was another WWE executive at that point.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the lady's name. I always dealt with Ed,
Speaker 1: but I was told it was him and another the
Speaker 1: other lady were watching our show and they liked what
Speaker 1: I did. So but then Jim Cornett wanted Beulah because
Speaker 1: her tape came out and she was in penthouse and
Speaker 1: she was you know that that was a different aspect,
Speaker 1: and I guess he wanted somebody sexier or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I you know, at this point, I'm with the Pitbulls.
Speaker 1: I'm very uncomfortable in my plever outfits. I wasn't exhubing
Speaker 1: sex at that point, so maybe I wasn't what you
Speaker 1: know what they Let's put you in a nuns outfit.
Speaker 1: That'll make you all that better sexually if you're in
Speaker 1: a nun. Delph Cornette, I mean I met Bruce. Have
Speaker 1: I been saying, oh, you said Cornette and Bruce. That
Speaker 1: was because they brought brother love back for like literally
Speaker 1: with Jim Cornett, I don't know why I said his
Speaker 1: name it's Bruce. Okay, so with Bruce, so they brought
Speaker 1: him back for life. Bruce didn't want me. Yeah, Bruce
Speaker 1: didn't want me. He wanted Beula, not Jim Cornette. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. So if you go listen to Bruce's podcast,
Speaker 1: he'll say, no, Francine wasn't mentioned, but I was getting
Speaker 1: phone calls from other people, so I guess I was mentioned,
Speaker 1: but I, you know, neither of us went And if
Speaker 1: you ask Beula, she never got a phone call at all,
Speaker 1: so she was in the darkness. She just says she
Speaker 1: didn't even know that they wanted her inuesting. But what
Speaker 1: did not last long was about maybe a month and
Speaker 1: a half to two months that he was back to TV.
Speaker 1: He did the brother Love segments and it just it
Speaker 1: went nowhere. And I wonder had he had a sister Love,
Speaker 1: would that have added that little bit of dimension to
Speaker 1: an older character that could have carried him into you know,
Speaker 1: those ninety five ninety six years were stuff was changing
Speaker 1: a little bit, not much, but changing a little bit.
Speaker 1: One of the main things that turned me off was
Speaker 1: they said, you're literally going to do nothing. You're just
Speaker 1: going to stand there. We're gonna paint your face red.
Speaker 1: You're gonna wear a red dress and you're gonna do nothing.
Speaker 1: You won't have to bump you basically, it's just eye candy.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna stand there. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I kind of like bumping, and I kind of like
Speaker 1: want to make a name for myself. So that was
Speaker 1: the main reason I was like, this sucks now. And
Speaker 1: when then when you see John Cronus's ass come and
Speaker 1: hit you in the face, your face will be red
Speaker 1: just from that. So the red makeup. Yeah, yeah, but again,
Speaker 1: my whole life would have changed if I went there.
Speaker 1: So I'm where I'm supposed to be. Yeah, without a doubt,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. So look at it. Today is
Speaker 1: twenty years as we're recording this from the last day
Speaker 1: of the ECW's last pay per view, Guiltiest Charged twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. Fucking crazy that that's that amount of time
Speaker 1: has passed. But you know, obviously for you that was
Speaker 1: a that was a big moment where you've said before good,
Speaker 1: big things were about to happen for you guys. Following that,
Speaker 1: we thought they were going to happen, but they weren't. Sadly,
Speaker 1: what was it you were going to be paired with Carino.
Speaker 1: It was gonna be a whole new dimension added to
Speaker 1: Francine again did a we did a promo to close
Speaker 1: the whole pay per view where I'm saying I think
Speaker 1: my line was like four men are better than one
Speaker 1: or something, and it was supposed to be PJ joins
Speaker 1: forces with the Corrino and then we had Jack victory
Speaker 1: and or three men are better than one because and
Speaker 1: me and Jack would have, you know, teamed up as
Speaker 1: managers on the outside, and it would have been great
Speaker 1: because Krino is great to work with, but never happened.
Speaker 1: So enjoyed the moment, Mike, because it could be gone
Speaker 1: like that, which sucks. In twenty years, you'll be doing
Speaker 1: to get my go reunion, being like, man, it's been
Speaker 1: twenty years since we listened to the rant On Russo
Speaker 1: I hope you're around in twenty years. I hope you're
Speaker 1: still making content in twenty years. Why not? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've ever up. I'm sure these guys will still be
Speaker 1: putting out shows. So you know, he's just want to quit.
Speaker 1: So you know, I really would like to shift our
Speaker 1: focus and start doing other stuff and branch out. But
Speaker 1: I mean just yesterday or two days ago, they dropped
Speaker 1: another episode where it's the one, the one guy Johnny
Speaker 1: podcasting and then his little sidekick, the guy who hughes.
Speaker 1: He told you about him. He faked cancer. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he think cancer. And then he had like six or
Speaker 1: seven different fraudulent gofundmes for a back injury that he
Speaker 1: supposedly had. Yeah, so I have a theory about him.
Speaker 1: By the way, So this is a guy who was
Speaker 1: a big fan of a lot of the shows that
Speaker 1: I did. I have a theory. He never ever retweeted
Speaker 1: anything that I did with fran Scene, and I wonder
Speaker 1: if he didn't want to get in trouble with his wife.
Speaker 1: But he's very free to retweet and tag people and everything.
Speaker 1: But he never retweeted any of our stuff, Fran Scenes.
Speaker 1: And not only no, not only is he a grifter,
Speaker 1: but he feels as if you know, you might add
Speaker 1: a little controversy to his life. So he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to retweet any of our stuff. What the hell? What's
Speaker 1: that about. I don't think he likes me. He's that's
Speaker 1: quite right. He Yeah, I don't think he retweets a
Speaker 1: lot of women. And it's mostly uh, Killer Cross and
Speaker 1: you know, Johnny Rods, he finds these weird guys. He's
Speaker 1: really obsessed with Brad Armstrong. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: they picked these weird people that they really focus on
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, really suck up to. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very strange. So they put out an episode where
Speaker 1: they did a watch along of like a September ninety
Speaker 1: sixth Nitro and the one guy, Johnny Podcasting, he's severe.
Speaker 1: He's on something. You don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: he's on some kind of downers and he's slurring his words,
Speaker 1: and he's saying the F word every sentence and it's
Speaker 1: just so fall And this is a guy who claims
Speaker 1: to be a minister. Oh yeah, they both do. One
Speaker 1: Johnny Podcasting says he's an ordained minister, and then the
Speaker 1: other guy is uh he calls himself a youth pastor.
Speaker 1: Oh geez, well, I would have won him teaching my children,
Speaker 1: and that's good. These people, I don't know. I was friendly.
Speaker 1: We were all all friendly at one point. If you
Speaker 1: go back like two years, we were all friendly. Everybody
Speaker 1: in the circle was. It was friendly. And then we
Speaker 1: just started to see what was going on. And uh,
Speaker 1: you guys turn heel, that's what happened. We didn't We're
Speaker 1: we're the baby faces. These Yeah, they listen. They did
Speaker 1: something very helish. They made up. They got access to
Speaker 1: a skype call that everybody was on and uh, the
Speaker 1: guy you had on, Joe Feeney and and Hughesy. Uh,
Speaker 1: they were doing a watch along of die Hard, the
Speaker 1: first die Hard, and there's a couple racist lines in
Speaker 1: the movie, and I guess they repeated him during the
Speaker 1: watch along. Right, So this guy, Johnny Podcasting, took the footage.
Speaker 1: He took like a four hour skype call, sifted through it,
Speaker 1: picked out little things here and there, and they made
Speaker 1: a compilation and they there's like a minute video where
Speaker 1: it's just these guys saying repeating lines from the movie.
Speaker 1: And he tweeted out to all of Joe's sponsors and
Speaker 1: the people he worked with, Conrad and Cone. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what did they believe it was? I don't know
Speaker 1: if they even saw it, if anybody saw it, but
Speaker 1: the fact that it was done and it was it
Speaker 1: was put out there and they tagged everybody in it
Speaker 1: that crossed the line right there. So that's why we
Speaker 1: don't feel bad about anything we do, so okay, well
Speaker 1: that's justified. Then we're making fun of them. They did
Speaker 1: something that is attacking a man's money and income. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's Joe's life. His job is income, is podcasting and producing,
Speaker 1: podcasting and hosting, and they went after this guy's this
Speaker 1: guy's money. So that's too far for me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: totally agree. What are your other projects that you're working on.
Speaker 1: I have the Mike Durban Show, which it started. I
Speaker 1: was on Russo's brand. That's Vince gave me my start.
Speaker 1: I was on the brand for about a year and
Speaker 1: then I switched to a creative control and I do
Speaker 1: like one show a month now because it's just I
Speaker 1: have so much fun with the other guys with doing
Speaker 1: Get My Go. Because my show is by myself, so
Speaker 1: it's me, it's me interviewing people, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: just hard to get like big names on and just
Speaker 1: trying to chase people down. But when I'm doing Get
Speaker 1: My Go, it's with you know, it's with Hughsey, Joe Fini,
Speaker 1: and we have people like Chad come on, we have
Speaker 1: Jeff Lane, come on, we have Ben Hamen, So we
Speaker 1: have a like a revolving guest list that we have
Speaker 1: we can pick from son It's so much fun to do,
Speaker 1: so we do. We do about one show a week
Speaker 1: with Get My Go. Okay, well I'm I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it. Wow, Yeah, I'll do it. I told Chad
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. I'm like, just fran scene seems
Speaker 1: so nice and kind. Is there anybody she does she
Speaker 1: doesn't get along with or she feuds with. Well, there
Speaker 1: might be one or two, and we don't talk about them.
Speaker 1: I think I was pretty pretty mum on that that answer.
Speaker 1: I just want to get that out there. So when
Speaker 1: anyone asked me to heal someone, I just won't do it,
Speaker 1: even if I despise them. I just keep it in
Speaker 1: the vault. Yeah so yeah, or if you know, if
Speaker 1: a name comes up, I just will politely decline to
Speaker 1: speak about that person. But there's really not many at all,
Speaker 1: which is pretty good for being in the business for
Speaker 1: twenty seven years. I think, yeah, haven't been too many
Speaker 1: jerks just wonder or too do you have? Do you
Speaker 1: ever think about releasing a book? I would approach two
Speaker 1: different times a while ago, but I like, for me,
Speaker 1: I feel like people want like the dark stories more
Speaker 1: so than fluff like Dark Side of the Ring, you
Speaker 1: know that kind of And I am not one to
Speaker 1: spill the beans, like I just said, like I won't
Speaker 1: heal people. I won't tell stories that I feel will
Speaker 1: get anybody in trouble because it's just not worth it
Speaker 1: for me. So my book would probably be rainbows and unicorns.
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody cares. And if I do,
Speaker 1: you know my podcasting, I'm an open book and everything
Speaker 1: is you know, documented already, So why would somebody read
Speaker 1: That's the way I think about it. Why would someone
Speaker 1: read it? I think the book, I think the book
Speaker 1: world has kind of been a little tougher, you know, nowadays,
Speaker 1: because there is so much content out there about everybody
Speaker 1: that when you see the book come out, you know,
Speaker 1: looks it's Obama's memoirs. You know, I'm sure there'll be
Speaker 1: a Trump memoirs. There's it's kind of hard to put
Speaker 1: out a biography anymore because of how much stuff is
Speaker 1: out there. It's it's it's kind of an interesting thing,
Speaker 1: but you know, you do give a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I tend to disagree the fluff
Speaker 1: stuff still could go if people want to read your story.
Speaker 1: They might want to find out a lot, like you know,
Speaker 1: you did your your video with Sean Oliver, the Breaking
Speaker 1: k Fame and that's fascinating. So that was in book form.
Speaker 1: There's your book and it doesn't necessarily need to be
Speaker 1: about the business. They want to know about you as Francine. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe if things dry up and I need
Speaker 1: something else to do. It's always there I think about.
Speaker 1: I just always thought that fans like dark and heelish
Speaker 1: more than happy and you know, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: dark side of the ring. That's kind of stuff that
Speaker 1: depresses me because it just shows that, you know, wrestling
Speaker 1: is there's a bad side to it and there's good
Speaker 1: to it as well, and nobody focuses on the good.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to see the band side. So never really
Speaker 1: thought about it. Well, maybe that would stand out more
Speaker 1: if you did a book that's very positive. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's not really a lot of them. So yeah, well
Speaker 1: I published. I want to talk to me and just
Speaker 1: you know, contact the show. But I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just enjoyed this kind of stuff. I enjoy meeting new
Speaker 1: people and learning about what you guys do, and because
Speaker 1: I'm not really out there. I don't really know what's
Speaker 1: going on. I just learned how to turn on a computer.
Speaker 1: I've been working off an iPad for years and now
Speaker 1: I'm back on a PC and I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to use it. So I know, I'm very sure journey.
Speaker 1: Part of that journey. All right, Well we'll head into
Speaker 1: what to the wrap up here? Follow you, Mike'll get
Speaker 1: to that. I would give him his proper platform, set
Speaker 1: settle down. One second before we get into Mike's plug
Speaker 1: a Rooney's let's just do a little bit of business here.
Speaker 1: Want to talk about Patreon, because you know he's a
Speaker 1: content creator himself. I thought you were letting him go.
Speaker 1: I didn't want you to go. No, no, no, He's
Speaker 1: gonna stay on. Say goodbye. I'm not gonna let him
Speaker 1: go just yet. Do this. We usually get rid of
Speaker 1: the guests, but he's welcome to stay if he'd like to.
Speaker 1: If we have a cool Patreon extra coming up. If
Speaker 1: he wants to stay, he can stay if he's got
Speaker 1: the time. But if not, it's fine. But I just
Speaker 1: want to get this in here. Let him stay to
Speaker 1: the end. He's a great guest, so give him the
Speaker 1: sure all right, just do it, yeah, exactly, all right.
Speaker 1: So the Patreon extras for this week. If you're listening
Speaker 1: to this on Korea give control, you're listening in an
Speaker 1: audio form. If you want to come over and join
Speaker 1: our Patreon at patreon dot com Slash Francine Podcast. Starting
Speaker 1: the ten dollars you get the extras. And the extras
Speaker 1: are not only the video portion of this show, but
Speaker 1: it's a couple extra shows we do during the week.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned it before Mike came on, but I'll
Speaker 1: reiterate that one more time. We're gonna find out what
Speaker 1: did you think of aw and your watch along. We're
Speaker 1: gonna ask a little more intricate questions about certain personalities,
Speaker 1: certain things going on, presentation and the whole nine yards,
Speaker 1: getting back into watching wrestling. That's a pretty big move
Speaker 1: for you. It is, and I'll discuss it further later exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's great. And it wouldn't be a
Speaker 1: Patreon action without playing a game. And this one's gonna
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a twist. We're gonna throw
Speaker 1: out some dirty riddles that you're gonna have to solve.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't love a dirty riddle? The first one PopEd
Speaker 1: me first, dirty Matt riddles, Yeah, well he's got a
Speaker 1: reputation of possibly being a little dirty, so no comment.
Speaker 1: He might he might have to have a little bro
Speaker 1: pop in and then the watch along. This is an
Speaker 1: interesting one. A lot of Francine at the tail end
Speaker 1: of this. It's labeled jazz with Franccene versus Steve Carino,
Speaker 1: but you joined a little mid mid match. I get
Speaker 1: in there and I and I rough some people up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a fun one. That's a fun one.
Speaker 1: And if it's the one, I think I watched it
Speaker 1: about a year ago because somebody put it either on
Speaker 1: my timeline or something, and I hadn't watched it for forever.
Speaker 1: So it is a fun one. It's technically jazz with
Speaker 1: Francine and Tommy Dreamer as well, but you know it's
Speaker 1: builled is jazz with Franccene And you guys have a
Speaker 1: great a great closer to at least. But we'll let
Speaker 1: you watch that from August twenty first, nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 1: as we say, the good old days long. That's what's
Speaker 1: happening on Patreon. So Mike, yeah, please hit us with
Speaker 1: you know what you got going on? All the things
Speaker 1: under the Mike Durban show umbrella. The floors yours. You
Speaker 1: can follow me on Twitter at Mike Durban d U
Speaker 1: R B A n D. And you can follow get
Speaker 1: my Go on Twitter at get my Go Show Francceine.
Speaker 1: For some reason, somebody already had get my Go as
Speaker 1: a Twitter handle, which I found odd because it's not
Speaker 1: even a proper term. It's it's something that this Johnny
Speaker 1: podcasting guy said incorrectly, the phrases get my goat right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so he said he does this a lot. He he
Speaker 1: mispronounced the stuff. He mixed phrases together. So get my
Speaker 1: Go was like one of these things that I heard
Speaker 1: over and over again, and I would put it on
Speaker 1: the show and it just became a, you know, a
Speaker 1: funny bit. And then after about the six or seventh episode,
Speaker 1: we didn't have a name for the show. We just
Speaker 1: did it. And then I said, all right, the show
Speaker 1: is now called get my Go. That's great love. Someone
Speaker 1: from twenty eleven, some girl has get my Go as
Speaker 1: her Twitter. Yeah, so for you, Mike, I'll go. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll get that name back for it. She should be
Speaker 1: on the show. Give all her reasons why that's her
Speaker 1: Twitter head. I'm gonna do that today. I'm gonna contact her,
Speaker 1: so yeah, and then you can check out my My
Speaker 1: YouTube channel is YouTube dot com slash Mike Durband and
Speaker 1: get my Go YouTube is YouTube dot com slash get
Speaker 1: my Go, and that's where you can find uh. I
Speaker 1: think we have about thirty two episodes now. The majority
Speaker 1: of them are video. Just last week was our first
Speaker 1: audio only episode. I'm trying to phase into mostly audio
Speaker 1: shows because it just takes so long for me to
Speaker 1: do the video. If you see, if you saw an episode,
Speaker 1: you would you know what I'm talking about. There's so
Speaker 1: much work that I would put into it, and it
Speaker 1: just takes up a lot of time. The audio is
Speaker 1: a lot easier to do. So Okay, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: when we're When I'm done everything today, I'm gonna follow
Speaker 1: I don't think we're I'm following you, so I think
Speaker 1: I need to get on Twitter and follow you guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we'll try to work something out if you will
Speaker 1: have me. I need to learn about this show because
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not let down. Mike, you better blowm
Speaker 1: You gotta bring the heat. You really need to impress
Speaker 1: me if I come on, so we'll set something up.
Speaker 1: And thank you so much for coming on. This was
Speaker 1: a pleasure. Thank you. It's a real honor to be on.
Speaker 1: You are a legend and this is a big honor
Speaker 1: for me. So thanks. Thanks, honey, that's sweet of you
Speaker 1: to say. Good luck with everything. I'm sure I'll talk
Speaker 1: to you soon. Okay, thank you, take care awesome all right,
Speaker 1: And if you want to follow me, it's at Chad
Speaker 1: E and B on the old Twitter gimmick. Why you
Speaker 1: want to you want to talk for a second before
Speaker 1: our sponsors do that at the end, I'm gonna splice
Speaker 1: them in about this. Yes I did. I said, we
Speaker 1: got a whole thing. We're gonna do it nice. We're
Speaker 1: gonna take our time and read it. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to rush through it. Uh, and We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: nice little inter splice. I'm sorry, all right, it's all good.
Speaker 1: I have a whole plan in my head. It's all uh.
Speaker 1: I'm just here. It's all gravy. But yeah, if you
Speaker 1: want to follow me, it's at Chad E and B
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram. I swear I don't get Instagram
Speaker 1: to save my freaking life Now. I promoted one of
Speaker 1: my signings coming up with kurd Angle, right, kurd Angle
Speaker 1: liked the Instagram posts, so I'm like, wow, big deal.
Speaker 1: I got like three likes from that. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: thought that this is supposed to be like a big thing.
Speaker 1: You have a right one hundred something. But still, if
Speaker 1: kurd Angle likes it, does that mean it shows up
Speaker 1: more than kurd Angle liked it? Like on Twitter, you
Speaker 1: tagged Kurt tagged him, that's why he saw it, Okay,
Speaker 1: and he liked it. So I thought, based off of
Speaker 1: kurd Angle being tagged and liking it, that more people
Speaker 1: would see the posts. So I don't get it all
Speaker 1: about hashtags from what I was taught. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: to tag hashtag ETHWWWE, aew NXT, wrestling, kurd Angle, Olympic goal.
Speaker 1: You have to put a million hashtags so it appears
Speaker 1: in all these differentories, exactly what I. So I did
Speaker 1: private signing with Kurt Angle only a few weeks away.
Speaker 1: Reserve your spot today hashtag private signing, hashtag TTM autograph,
Speaker 1: hashtag autograph collector, hashtag autograph signing. So I got to
Speaker 1: add like twenty more of those. Yep, that's what I
Speaker 1: was told, because I don't like Instagram either. I love Twitter.
Speaker 1: Twitter is my thing. But you didn't even put restlers
Speaker 1: in there. I did not. Now when I did Road
Speaker 1: Warrior Animal rest in Peace, I got twenty seven likes
Speaker 1: because I put rip animal road Warrior Animal. Oh what
Speaker 1: a rush? Yeah, drop the ball again. The chads there.
Speaker 1: But if you want to check out that sign and
Speaker 1: go to Ibexclusives dot com and uh come, please reserve
Speaker 1: a spot for the Olympic gold medalists. He would tweet
Speaker 1: that for you. Yes you did, and I can't tell
Speaker 1: you how much I appreciate that. And also Jimmy wang Yang,
Speaker 1: who we know. You know, his party bus isn't hopping.
Speaker 1: So if you want to get a Jimmy Wangyang autographed,
Speaker 1: come to my site and we'll we'll get it done
Speaker 1: for you. And you know, well, now I want to
Speaker 1: help it guy out. You know, if it's people are
Speaker 1: missing opportunities. You know, he's a guy doesn't do a
Speaker 1: lot of conventions, and I have had people send stuff
Speaker 1: from England. I've had people send cards from across the country.
Speaker 1: So you know, if it can help out Jimmy, that's
Speaker 1: the most important thing. So ib Exclusives, dot com, okay
Speaker 1: across the border. On social media, you can find me
Speaker 1: at ECW DVA fran Scene. You can also find me
Speaker 1: on Twitch www dot Twitch, dot tv, forward Slash, ECW
Speaker 1: DVA Franccene. There is a schedule on there. I'm going
Speaker 1: to try and keep a schedule for every week so
Speaker 1: you know when I'm going live. The cameos are starting
Speaker 1: again next week. Check my Twitter for more info. And
Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think that's a wrap.