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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 2: are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. And

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Speaker 2: by far the biggest story of this Monday from a

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Speaker 2: political perspective is that Tim Scott, Senator from South Carolina

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Speaker 2: has officially dropped out. And we've been having the conversation

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Speaker 2: now because you can see it where we could, in theory,

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Speaker 2: have a one v one Donald Trump against whomever the

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Speaker 2: top contender ends up being. It's almost as if there

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Speaker 2: is a playoff to get into the championship against Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump in the final Republican primary. And I think what

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Speaker 2: we're running into, and a lot of you want to

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Speaker 2: weigh in, is trying to assess, as everyone drops out,

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Speaker 2: is there even a a fifty percent plus a vote

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Speaker 2: that would be opposed to Donald Trump in any of

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Speaker 2: these primaries, or as for instance, Tim Scott drops out

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Speaker 2: and let's say he's got seven, eight or nine percent,

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Speaker 2: does his support actually filter out to a variety of

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Speaker 2: different candidates that is, some go to Trump, some go

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Speaker 2: to Nicky Haley, some go to DeSantis, some go to

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Speaker 2: the Veike, and.

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Speaker 3: I think the answer is yes.

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Speaker 2: And if that is going to be the case, Buck,

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Speaker 2: it's hard for me to see how anybody else gets

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Speaker 2: over fifty percent, even one on one against Trump. And

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Speaker 2: this matters because if one remaining candidate, be it Nicky Haley,

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Speaker 2: be at Ron DeSantis, does not get to over fifty percent,

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Speaker 2: then there is no pathway to beat Trump. And I

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Speaker 2: think what we're looking at is maybe the reality being

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Speaker 2: I think I said on July seventeenth, I remember, because

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Speaker 2: I think we flagged it that to me, I didn't

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Speaker 2: see a pathway where Trump was going to lose this nomination.

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Speaker 2: As we sit here, roughly what four or five months

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Speaker 2: out from when this nomination will officially be decided, it's

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Speaker 2: hard for me to see a pathway where Nicky Haley

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Speaker 2: or Ron DeSantis can beat Trump.

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Speaker 3: Head to head.

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Speaker 2: If I had to pick, I think Ron DeSantis probably

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Speaker 2: has a better chance because I tend to think most

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Speaker 2: of Nicky Haley's supporters would end up in the anti

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Speaker 2: Trump camp, whereas most of DeSantis supporters would end up

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Speaker 3: Do you buy that calculus?

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Speaker 2: What do you think we're missing here as we try

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Speaker 2: to analyze what the impact is of Tim Scott officially

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Speaker 2: being out of this race.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Tim scott dropping changes much other than

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Speaker 3: it puts additional pressure on the bottom tier of the

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Speaker 3: top bottom tier of the remaining serious candidates or remaining

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Speaker 3: candidates to drop out, namely Chris Christy. And look at

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Speaker 3: Chris Christy. I think he thought he would come out

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Speaker 3: and be a truth teller about Donald Trump and maybe

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Speaker 3: could siphon support away from Trump. That has failed. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that has not been a successful strategy. It will not

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Speaker 3: become a successful strategy in the months that remain. So

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Speaker 3: it's Trump, Haley and desantists. We do have Viveke on

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Speaker 3: the third hour, and I think we should ask him,

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Speaker 3: like vivequ why shouldn't you drop at this point? You know,

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Speaker 3: if Tim Scott is dropping, I think it's fair to ask,

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Speaker 3: you know, what's his pathway? Really? Meaning what's Vivike's pathway?

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Speaker 3: So nothing really all that much has changed, And I

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Speaker 3: think that what you see after the debate is, Okay,

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Speaker 3: tim Scott's dropped out, But the real thing we've all

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Speaker 3: been waiting for is a tightening between Trump and the

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Speaker 2: Do you think, because the only other thing I can

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Speaker 2: that they are not the top candidate. Do you think

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Speaker 2: it is Santis Nikky Haley combo if those two campaigns

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Speaker 2: has to agree to be vice president. That's the challenge

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Speaker 2: because they're both running for president right now. Do you

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Speaker 3: Well, I think if you look at the numbers, if

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if I don't know if even

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Speaker 3: I have not come across anyone who was for Trump

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Speaker 3: And this is what I think people couldn't foresee, which

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Speaker 3: is there's no a lot of these strategies, whether it

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Speaker 3: was Chris Christy or DeSantis or any of these others.

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Speaker 3: The strategy was people that were maybe weak in their

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Speaker 3: which happened during the indictment phase the first indictments, hasn't changed.

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Speaker 3: People are unwavering, all right. I think that's where we are.

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Speaker 3: We'll take some of your calls.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you still went away in again, Julie

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Speaker 2: Kelly at the bottom of this hour, I think what

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Speaker 2: is honestly kind of a blockbuster revelation that the Trump

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Speaker 2: team has a fish said we want cameras in the courtroom,

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Speaker 2: and Jack Smith, according to the tweet that Julie Kelly

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Speaker 2: This is a little bit of a pivot, buck, But

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Speaker 2: I don't think you've even heard this yet. Our good

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Speaker 2: friend Megan Rapino, US women's soccer left wing star, last

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Speaker 2: scene shanking her penalty kick wide in her final professional

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Speaker 2: soccer match in the National Women's Soccer League, tore her

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Speaker 2: achilles tendon, and in the aftermath of that occurring, she

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Speaker 2: there was a God or not, me tearing my achilles

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Speaker 2: tendon proves there is no God. I can't believe this

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Speaker 3: Listen to this. This is a long one.

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Speaker 4: Hold on.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the Aaron Rodgers treatment, whatever that is,

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Speaker 1: Whoever did his surgery, because he does see this up.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought about a little bit. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not a religious person or anything, and

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Speaker 5: That there isn't.

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Speaker 2: She tore her achilles tendon buck She says, if there

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Speaker 2: was a god, this is proof.

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Speaker 3: That there that there isn't.

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Speaker 2: Of all the things that athletes say that are crazy,

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Speaker 2: Megan Rapino tearing her achilles tendon and using it as

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Speaker 2: Some people would say, well, hey, maybe this is a

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Speaker 2: good sign there is a God. I don't like to,

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Speaker 2: you know, get fired up about injuries because some people

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Speaker 2: when when Aaron Rodgers tore his achilles tendon, there were

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Speaker 2: you don't get the COVID shot. So, look, people get

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Speaker 2: hurt in athletics. But I don't think I've ever heard

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Speaker 3: She's look not to be in the position.

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Speaker 2: Of of you're a diehard Megan Repino fan, this is

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Speaker 3: I don't think that she's really She's not making a

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Speaker 2: It does say something that your joke when you tear

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Speaker 2: your achilles tendon. I do think she is not someone

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Speaker 2: is why she would say such a thing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she just said sure.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then she can kind of pawn it off

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Speaker 2: the most unlikable member of an American national sports team

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Speaker 2: in my life. And Buck, what's tough about this is

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Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen when the US women went I was

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Speaker 2: This was one of the most beloved teams in United

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Speaker 2: I wasn't really rooting or a large percentage of Americans

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Speaker 2: to create a situation where everybody loves you and everybody's

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Speaker 2: is evidence of how kind of toxic. This woke culture became.

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Speaker 2: She refused to go to the White House when Trump

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Speaker 2: invited the team after they won in two thousand, sorry,

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Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, and they won again in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Well. Yes, and there was also the equal pay argument.

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Speaker 2: Than what they drive via their entertainment, which they ended

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Speaker 3: So I mean they're they're basically it's like they get

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Speaker 3: can tear down your team, you can tear down the institution.

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Speaker 3: You can make a terrible Disney movie. Yeah right, Marvels.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna go see it,

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Speaker 3: but this one was particularly bad. But Clay, on an

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Speaker 3: individual basis, woke miss pace. For some people. On an

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Speaker 2: This is the challenge right on an individual basis. You

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what's happened with Bob Eiger, for instance,

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Speaker 2: at Disney, and it's certainly what happened with Megan Repino,

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Speaker 2: who I think I misspoke. I said they won in

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen in Canada. It was actually twenty fifteen in Canada.

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Speaker 2: the fact that they won the World Cup, and Megan

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Speaker 3: Well, Clay, it turns out that when the Communists of

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Speaker 2: What is the latest on these filings, what's the timeframe

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Speaker 6: It's interesting. And Jack Smith just filed another motion that

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Speaker 3: Chutkin's courtroom, Julie's buck thanks for being with us and

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Speaker 3: So in terms of how don't we keep we have

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Speaker 6: Right, see's at the two criminal indictments, the classified documents

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Speaker 6: a major monkey wrench into Jack Smith's already very tenuous

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Speaker 6: for accunt indictment against Donald Trump, especially since the defendants

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Speaker 6: are some of the very very same people the jack

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Speaker 6: Smith wants to call as witnesses in his favor to

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Speaker 6: prove that Donald Trump was trying to overthrow the results

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Speaker 6: of the twenty twenty election. So Jacksonth's going to have

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Speaker 6: a couple moves here related to what's going to be

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Speaker 6: happening in Georgia. We'll see what he comes up with.

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Speaker 6: I still am expecting a superseding indictment. I know, you guys,

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Speaker 6: we've talked about this for months, maybe a few years,

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Speaker 6: even a seditious conspiracy count to further delay this trial,

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Speaker 6: because I don't think that he wants this DZ trial

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Speaker 6: to happen on the heels of perhaps, you know, a

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Speaker 6: favorable settlement for the plaintiffs and the Georgia case that

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Speaker 6: shows that these Georgia voting systems were vulnerable for years

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Speaker 6: and the Secretary of State did nothing about it.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Julie Kelly step fabulous work covering all

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Speaker 2: the January sixth related cases and beyond. So a couple

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Speaker 2: of two parterre here. It sounds like you don't think

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Speaker 2: the case will start on March fourth in DC. Based

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Speaker 2: on that, I'm wondering about your confidence level in when

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Speaker 2: that case may start. And I just want to circle

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Speaker 2: back around again on the TV side, do we think

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Speaker 2: that this is going to turn into a big story?

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Speaker 2: Because Trump is now on this same side as the

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Speaker 2: New York Times, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, all of

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Speaker 2: these media outlets believe that democracy demands that we be

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Speaker 2: able to watch these proceedings, and Jack Smith is on

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Speaker 2: the opposite side of that. If you truly thought democracy

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Speaker 2: was in danger, wouldn't you want as many eyeballs as

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Speaker 2: possible on your trial to try to preserve democracy. It

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Speaker 2: seems like there's a big hypocrisy here.

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Speaker 6: Well, there certainly is, And as I said over the

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Speaker 6: weekend when I posted the latest motion, donald Trump's motion

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Speaker 6: supporting it, I said, you know, Banana republics create strange bedfellows.

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Speaker 6: Here you have Donald Trump and the biggest news organizations

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Speaker 6: who've gone after him for years on the same side

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Speaker 6: wanting direct, unfiltered access. So I think it will develop

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Speaker 6: into a big story, and of course the decision will

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Speaker 6: be left up to Judge Tanya chuck Hin no fan

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Speaker 6: of Donald Trump on the record saying many inflammatory things

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Speaker 6: over the past few years about Trump and his supporters.

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Speaker 6: So will she allow it? And even if she doesn't

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Speaker 6: allow a camera. Quite honestly, how can you prevent audio

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Speaker 6: access when a court higher than you, in the very

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Speaker 6: same courthouse, allows people to tune in and hear the proceedings.

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Speaker 6: I listened to an appellate the appellate case last week

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Speaker 6: and Steve Vannon's appealed for his conviction. So it's going

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Speaker 6: to be very difficult to see. And even if Judge

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Speaker 6: Chuckkin does deny this lawsuitor tosses it out, what these

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Speaker 6: organizations will do if they will then go to the

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Speaker 6: appellate court and then eventually perhaps the Supreme Court. That's

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Speaker 6: why the March fourth trial date seems so sketchy and

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Speaker 6: really untenable, because you're talking about what now three months away,

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Speaker 6: four months away, jury selection motions to dismiss based on

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Speaker 6: selective prosecution. Now the camera in the court room issue,

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Speaker 6: not to mention, what will be a big battle over

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Speaker 6: a change of venue motion I expect will be filed soon.

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Speaker 6: So this is a lot to resolve in less than

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Speaker 6: four months. So I still don't think that that March

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Speaker 6: fourth Trialdy will stick.

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Speaker 3: Julie Kelly with us right now, Julie, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you heard. Last week we sat down with former

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Speaker 3: President Trump and I asked him for the interview about

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Speaker 3: commutations and pardons for people involved in January sixth, you know,

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Speaker 3: depending on the specifics of each individual case. And he

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Speaker 3: said he you know, was really at the very end,

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Speaker 3: so we couldn't get in a much more in the

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Speaker 3: way specifics, but he said absolutely those would happen. In

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Speaker 3: the meantime, there have been a couple of high profile

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Speaker 3: manhunts underway for January sixth involved individuals in just the

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Speaker 3: last week or so. I think it's surprising for people

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Speaker 3: to even hear that that's still going on. What's happening

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 6: And I want to thank you because they did listen

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Speaker 6: to that interview. And I want to thank you for

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Speaker 6: asking all of the Republican presidential candidates what they will

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Speaker 6: do with these police persecuted Americans who protested at the

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Speaker 6: Capitol almost three years ago. And yes, I know your

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Speaker 6: listeners and all of my followers and your followers are

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Speaker 6: now familiar with the case of Gregory Yetman, the many

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Speaker 6: times over combat veteran also reguard as the Guantanamo Bay

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Speaker 6: no criminal record, was cooperating with the FBI. Nonetheless, walked

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Speaker 6: out to go to work last Wednesday at seven am,

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Speaker 6: confronted by armed several armed FBI agents and military style

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Speaker 6: slat vehicles wanting to arrest him for a minor offense

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Speaker 6: interfering with law enforcement. Even if what they say is true.

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Speaker 6: The effidavit was just filed. The charging documents that he

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Speaker 6: sprayed a canister towards police for twelve to fourteen seconds.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if this is the standard to use the

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Speaker 6: Joint Terrorism Task Force to hunt down Americans who allegedly

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Speaker 6: sprayed police almost three years ago, then there would be

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Speaker 6: That's simply not the case. So here is another example

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Speaker 6: of this Department of Justice and FBI still adding to

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Speaker 6: the body count of this January sixth prosecution. Now one

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Speaker 6: two hundred Americans arrested and charged, with the possibility of

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Speaker 6: one thousand more before this DOJ and us A train

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Speaker 6: Matthew Graves and Washington DC are done. This is all

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Speaker 6: for optics and it's to juice the numbers about alleged

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Speaker 6: domestic violent extremism i e. Trump supporters posing allegedly posing

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Speaker 6: this dire security threat to the country.

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Speaker 3: Julie Kelly, everybody, go subscribe to your substack Declassified with

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Speaker 1: Need a break from fall of six a little comedy

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Just to give you

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Speaker 3: will be with us. We'll be having a discussion with

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Speaker 3: him about well running for president, what's going on in

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Speaker 3: the country and the world. He will, I'm sure have

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Speaker 3: no shortage of things to say, and as he never does,

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Speaker 3: and we're looking forward to talking to him. I want

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Speaker 3: to know what his pathway is, how long he plans

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Speaker 3: to go uh in this race, what would make him

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Speaker 3: think what I would think that it's time to maybe

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Speaker 3: pack it up. The Nikky Haley feud, I think we

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Speaker 3: can call it a feud. Lot of things to discuss

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Speaker 3: with him. Also in the next hour, UH, Trump has

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Speaker 3: rolled out and immigration well immigration policy of sorts, that

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Speaker 3: he's going to send back the migrants. He's gonna have

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Speaker 3: large scale deportations right away. This came out over the weekend, UH,

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Speaker 3: and no surprise, a lot of Democrat news outlets now

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Speaker 3: saying Trump is a fascist. He's gonna all all the stuff,

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Speaker 3: all the things that they say about Trump. He's so scary.

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Speaker 3: But we don't want to take a few of your calls.

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Speaker 3: We've had Shannon in Nashville who's been waiting for a while.

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Speaker 3: He wants to bet the two of us, Clay a

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Speaker 3: steak dinner on something. All right, Shannon and Nashville, what

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Speaker 3: have you got for us?

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Speaker 4: All right? But I met you in at the UT

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Speaker 4: Alabama game last year. Best game ever saw in my life.

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Speaker 4: And I told y'all then, mister Russia starting with this

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety and yeah man, y'all, y'all picked up after

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Speaker 4: Saban and y'all are doing a great job. So thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 2: But you may have talked to me or Buck had

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Speaker 2: a doppelganger at that game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, wait was that did he say, UT Austin?

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Speaker 2: I was at the UT Austin. No, No, what did

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Speaker 2: you say? Sorry, the UT University of Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, there's just there are a lot of guys

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Speaker 3: in Tennessee that have my same haircut, so that's that's

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Speaker 3: a common brand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was just what a great game.

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Speaker 7: But anyways, I I think I'm who the vice presidential

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Speaker 7: candidate's gonna be in Trump thing's help with the women

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Speaker 7: vote and not the fact that she's a woman, but

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Speaker 7: I'll think she's been outstanding candidate.

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Speaker 4: And I think of Sarah Huckley Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I think I appreciate the fact that you want to

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Speaker 2: bet this. I actually feel like I'm stealing from you.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I will not take a stake

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Speaker 3: right out of right out of Shannon's hands with this.

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Speaker 3: When Shannon Clay and I would put out there that

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Speaker 3: Sarah Huckabee Sanders, I don't even think she makes the

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Speaker 3: top five women that Trump is considered right now for

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Speaker 3: vice president. Okay, so Shannon, thank you for the call.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'll do.

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Speaker 2: If Shannon is right, I will donate. I think that

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Speaker 2: Shannon say he's an Alabama fan or was he a

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Speaker 2: Tennessee fan? I will donate. Find out from Shannon. I

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Speaker 2: will donate. If Shannon is right and Sarah Huckeby Sanders,

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Speaker 2: you can flag this is Trump's selection for vice president.

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Speaker 2: I will donate one thousand dollars to the athletic department

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Speaker 2: fund of Shannon's favorite team. That's how common look I

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Speaker 2: will be. I think it's like one hundred to one

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Speaker 2: buck that she is gonna send Shannon a gift card

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Speaker 2: for like Roots Chris or something. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: cares about the athletic department getting Wow. I can I

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Speaker 2: wigh in here on Shannon's behalf. I think Shannon wants

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Speaker 2: a nice steak dinner, buddy, all right, If Shannon would

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Speaker 2: rather have a steak dinner.

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Speaker 3: Then I will. But what are we getting in exchange?

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Speaker 2: I thought I was just being incredibly generous because I

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Speaker 2: don't want to take Shannon's steak. I feel like that

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Speaker 2: is such a bad bet by Shannon that I feel

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Speaker 2: I would feel bad if he had to pay first.

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Speaker 3: We'll give him. I think you give him a one

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Speaker 3: way bet. You say, you know, you'll send him a

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Speaker 3: gift certificate to roots bris or something else. And if

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Speaker 3: he loses, well, then he just knows that Clay and

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Speaker 3: Buck a brilliant and that he should continue to listen

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Speaker 3: to us.

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Speaker 2: That's a good call, Okay, So flag this one, Ali.

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Speaker 2: Shannon can come back in July or August of next

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Speaker 2: year if he's right, and we'll play this audio and

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Speaker 2: I will give him a steak dinner somewhere. I will

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Speaker 2: not take a steak dinner from him. I think that's

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Speaker 2: such a bad bet that I am. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: taking a shot at Sarah Huckabee Sanders. But to your point, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I think that even if Trump went female, which I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure he's gonna do, I think it's I thinkity

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Speaker 2: Sanders is way down the list you put Carrie.

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Speaker 3: she cracks the top five. Maybe, but not in the

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