Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books comes the key sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Joanna's
Speaker 1: Papas and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome to Unleashed from bet MGM,
Speaker 1: the King of Sports Books. Man. Another huge weekend of
Speaker 1: sports and it was a big week of First Urban Meyer, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, there's no joke. Urban Meyer and the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars got their first win. The Cincinnati Bearcats. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati bear Cats are ranked number two in the
Speaker 1: country for the first time in school history. You know,
Speaker 1: they're behind there behind my dogs number one, who beat
Speaker 1: Kentucky now are the only undefeated team in the SEC.
Speaker 1: It was the first episode of the Newcason of Succession.
Speaker 1: You're honest, do you watch Succession? I don't watch Succession?
Speaker 1: And if you tell people that you don't, they just
Speaker 1: get very angry. Have you noticed that when people they're
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about a show and they have you seen it?
Speaker 1: And you're like no, and they're like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you haven't seen It's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I have thirteen thousand hours of other shows to catch
Speaker 1: up on. Yeah, it's hard. To live a life. Now,
Speaker 1: there's so many I'm trying to find time to live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: peer pressure to watch shows is a real thing. But
Speaker 1: you were so busy this weekend. Anyway, your baby girl, Gig,
Speaker 1: she had her first birthday. How was it you were
Speaker 1: texting our group text and I'm glad to know what
Speaker 1: this first birthday? They were serving plenty of adult beverages. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I live up the group text. Hopefully you
Speaker 1: guys destroyed it. It was supposed to be destroyed on
Speaker 1: a rival, because you know, I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into an Urban Meyer situation. I was a little toasted.
Speaker 1: I can't be responsible for what I texted, but it
Speaker 1: was fun. I needed to make sure I got very
Speaker 1: drunk Olivia, just so when the check came for the
Speaker 1: event I was. I didn't remember it. I wanted to
Speaker 1: be fully blacked out for when I signed the check. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you got there. In fact, that's what I
Speaker 1: should do for our end punishment, Picks is just have
Speaker 1: you read out your text? They were pretty rich and yeah,
Speaker 1: that party was extravagant. It must be good, be g
Speaker 1: G Pappas. Let me tell you when I come back
Speaker 1: in another life, I want to be pappas. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a combo baptism. I'm sorry. Christening, I was a
Speaker 1: combo christening and first birthday. So we did them both
Speaker 1: at the same time, so you know, I imagine it
Speaker 1: would have been worse if I did a separate birthday
Speaker 1: party and christening. So anyway, I'm gonna be bet and
Speaker 1: big on somebody and trying to win this money back.
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew, I can't wait to talk to you. You You
Speaker 1: gotta give me a good tip. Oh man, he better,
Speaker 1: he'll be at the end of the show. Is always
Speaker 1: our betting expert, Peter Andrew. He is so good. And
Speaker 1: we have a full slate of NFL and NBA games
Speaker 1: as the season begins this week. So excited, you know, Janice,
Speaker 1: I've got a new team this year, new Colors. My
Speaker 1: husband's with the Toronto Raptors. I am flying up there
Speaker 1: and can't wait. Season opens Wednesday night for the Raptors
Speaker 1: at home. I can't wait. Are you going to wear
Speaker 1: Raptors gear? Hold on, I'm just good about to sing
Speaker 1: the Canadian national and Oh Canadada, oh Country. I forget
Speaker 1: his up there. Thank you for Jim Carrey. And that's
Speaker 1: Sam Jackers on the Raptors. I can't watch to wait
Speaker 1: and pay for Looney's and Tunis to watch him. Isn't
Speaker 1: that how it goes? Yeah? But sub Justin Bieber for
Speaker 1: Jim Carey. Let's make this current. That's true. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Justin Trudeau. I'm a Canadian now. Congratulations Sam Decker,
Speaker 1: he's a Toronto Raptor. So excited, so excited for the
Speaker 1: NBA to begin to That's talk about a sport that's
Speaker 1: on every night. You know, you never never have to
Speaker 1: look around too hard for an NBA game, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can find a game. The only thing you can't
Speaker 1: find this season is Kyrie Irving. He's tough to spot.
Speaker 1: He will be tough to speak of vaccine and athletes.
Speaker 1: So do you see that Cam Newton has now gotten
Speaker 1: vaccinated and is looking for a job. I didn't see that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, who's gonna pick Somebody's got to
Speaker 1: pick him up. He's too valuable to have on the wire.
Speaker 1: Let's go. You know, I could think of one team
Speaker 1: that could use him. Who it's a New York team.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we could take just play wide received
Speaker 1: we need another player. At this point, we had we
Speaker 1: had more injuries this weekend. It's getting very very I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure if the Giants showed up to the
Speaker 1: Jets game whoever they're playing next, and the Jets showed
Speaker 1: up to the Giants game whoever they're playing next, I
Speaker 1: don't even think the other team would notice that the
Speaker 1: other it's not that team. That's how bad both teams
Speaker 1: are right now. Oh that's pretty good, that's pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton will find a home. Players get
Speaker 1: hurt all the time, and I think he'll find a
Speaker 1: good role as a backup. But yeah, former MVP. It's
Speaker 1: just interesting the COVID vaccine decisions made around sports, also
Speaker 1: in the media, Like I I have a friend, longtime
Speaker 1: ESPN reporter, and she has chosen not to get vaccinated
Speaker 1: and ESPN has let her go. So it's just it's
Speaker 1: such a byeline to so many headlines this season, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's very interesting. Last season was all
Speaker 1: what games are canceled. Now it's what players are choosing
Speaker 1: not to get vaccinated. So as we get closer to
Speaker 1: the midway point of NFL season, Boy, a lot of
Speaker 1: teams made statements this past weekend. Perhaps none bigger than
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. You picked this one, honest. Last week,
Speaker 1: you picked this They rolled the Chargers thirty four to six,
Speaker 1: and then the Cardinals. They are still unbeaten. They beat
Speaker 1: the Browns. That was a great game. Without their head coach.
Speaker 1: They left their head coach in Arizona with COVID. They
Speaker 1: still got it done. That was a great one. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk to former NFL general manager and three
Speaker 1: time Super Bowl winning executive Michael Lombardi about all the
Speaker 1: big NFL headlines. I can't wait to pick his brain.
Speaker 1: I've never met him, have you, No, No, I can't
Speaker 1: wait too. Uh. He's got so much great takes. He's
Speaker 1: such an entertaining guy. And I mean, you'd be hard
Speaker 1: pressed to find somebody with as much extensive NFL experience.
Speaker 1: The guys have been around the game for so long.
Speaker 1: Just to go back to your point about the Ravens,
Speaker 1: you know what, I really listened. I listened. I listened.
Speaker 1: I listened to your unleashed I think it was a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and you sold me you're unleashed
Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson was so passionate. They've become my favorite team. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean I have to say, I have to have
Speaker 1: I have a void to fill because it's almost like
Speaker 1: giants aren't playing football. So I mean, I'm glad I
Speaker 1: picked them, and now they're also in my heart. I mean,
Speaker 1: they are playing incredible football. And Lamar Jackson is looks
Speaker 1: like he worked on his game. I mean he's passing,
Speaker 1: he's sitting in the pocket, he's running when he has to.
Speaker 1: Their defense looks great. They're gonna win it all. I
Speaker 1: know every week I say somebody different is gonna win
Speaker 1: it all. But I'll tell you what. The Ravens are
Speaker 1: gonna win it all. Okay, gonna tell our social media
Speaker 1: team to clip that right there, and we're gonna hold
Speaker 1: you to it. I agree. They are really fun to watch,
Speaker 1: But why did they make a statement this weekend beating
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Everyone was so high on the Chargers, myself included,
Speaker 1: so that caused a little separation in the a f C.
Speaker 1: And the a f C is so strong this year,
Speaker 1: so that that was really fun. You know who didn't
Speaker 1: have as good of a weekend as the Ravens and
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson? You because you got sick? Yeah, can you hear?
Speaker 1: How can jestin. I am good, Laurence know you because
Speaker 1: you're now broke after this christening. We both we both lost, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we both lost our healths mental health. Well. Also he
Speaker 1: lost is at Thick the Kid and that's thick with
Speaker 1: two c's, which is my favorite kind of thick. Thick
Speaker 1: the Kid. He had a tough time with some parlays
Speaker 1: this week, so bad that he won Bad Beat of
Speaker 1: the Week. Bad Beat of the Week. He bet on
Speaker 1: six games, five of those hit. Gotta hate it when
Speaker 1: just one loses. He lost money on the Chargers, speaking
Speaker 1: of that game, a lot of people did and the Browns.
Speaker 1: So tough luck, Mr Thick, but bet MGM is going
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Speaker 1: can try your luck again asap. Okay, it's now our
Speaker 1: favorite segment of the show. It's time for us to
Speaker 1: go off on one topic we feel really passionate about
Speaker 1: this week. Jannice, let's unleash. It's time we just talked
Speaker 1: about big statement wins in the NFL this week in Jannice,
Speaker 1: I know you wanted to unleash on someone who made
Speaker 1: a huge statement this week, and I love this one.
Speaker 1: Take it away, my friend yes, oh h d. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, you know what, it's just fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I have love for sports journalists because you're my co
Speaker 1: host and I love you to death. But it's just
Speaker 1: fun to see when players show up storylines, especially when
Speaker 1: it's the goat our a in Rogers Week one, every journalist,
Speaker 1: everybody was saying, oh my god, he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be there. Does he want to play? He looks halfharded.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. Say it again. Guilty, yes, guilty,
Speaker 1: has charged. I'm looking right at you, girl. But you know,
Speaker 1: he went into Chicago. He went into Chicago and he
Speaker 1: had a little message. As you know, it's been all
Speaker 1: over every sports network, all over the internet. He had
Speaker 1: a little message for the fans of Chicago. He wants
Speaker 1: them to know that he still owns them. He didn't
Speaker 1: say it once. He didn't say it twice, Dare He
Speaker 1: didn't say it trice. He said it about a hundred times.
Speaker 1: He was jacked up, he was excited. Does that look
Speaker 1: like the disposition of a player who's phoned it in?
Speaker 1: Does the Packers record right now look like a record
Speaker 1: of the former m v P phoning it him? He
Speaker 1: is absolutely kill on it, And I just want to
Speaker 1: remind a few people of what they said. Frank Iowa said,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers played like a guy. This was after week one.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers played like a guy that wasn't engaged. How
Speaker 1: about that jump pass he threw for an interception. That's
Speaker 1: something a rookie does. What how dare you disrespect to
Speaker 1: go Kevin Blackstone. It almost looked like it was planned
Speaker 1: to rub his thumb in the eyes of the fans. Huh, Emily, yes,
Speaker 1: what yeah? I mean people started they started resorting to
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories after one game. After one game, how about
Speaker 1: it was a bad game and it was a bad
Speaker 1: off season. It wasn't bad offseason. I know he did
Speaker 1: have that disposition. I know there was the talk that
Speaker 1: he wants out. I know he was upset about the
Speaker 1: players around him, But he's still Aaron Rodgers. You don't
Speaker 1: become the m v P by phoning it in or
Speaker 1: not being competitive and playing with what you got. This
Speaker 1: is a good one. Tony Kornheiser, I love this one.
Speaker 1: I have wondered all through train an in camp. See
Speaker 1: he's thinking he's the genius here, and I'm wondering now
Speaker 1: if his heart with this is with his team in
Speaker 1: Green Bay, or if he's just counting the days until
Speaker 1: he can leave, I don't I don't know if he does.
Speaker 1: I know he doesn't like the coach. I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't like the general manager. And what's worse, I wonder
Speaker 1: if this bleeds over to the rest of the team
Speaker 1: and they wonder about Aaron Rodgers. Well, I tell you what,
Speaker 1: after that touchdown celebration with his teammates, it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like they're wondering about anything except if they're gonna win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. Because my man, Aaron Rodgers is jacked
Speaker 1: up and he's throwing ropes, he's throwing dimes. I'm a
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers fan. Now, they're gonna win it all? Olivia,
Speaker 1: did I say they're gonna win it all? Yes, you
Speaker 1: have now been on the record saying they too, will
Speaker 1: win it all. So I wanted to tell you what
Speaker 1: win it a halt me? But I know that's a
Speaker 1: fun rivalry. What is he now, twenty one and five
Speaker 1: or twenty two and five against the Bears and he's
Speaker 1: having fun out there, and he's got the quote of
Speaker 1: the season that you made. Now your profile sent how
Speaker 1: can you not be romantic about football, which is now
Speaker 1: I think in your Instagram bio, it is in my
Speaker 1: Instagram bio. I feel like that just kind of sums
Speaker 1: me up. So it was just fun to see him
Speaker 1: show up reporters. So please, reporters, take it easy with
Speaker 1: the histrionics, report the numbers, easy on the dramatic storyline.
Speaker 1: Saved that for the Real Housewives or for something a
Speaker 1: little bit more legitimate like the Mahomes family. Well, you've
Speaker 1: led me right into mine kind of because you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to unleash on Jackson Mahomes doing a TikTok
Speaker 1: dance in the roped off area honoring the late Sean
Speaker 1: Taylor at the Chiefs game in Washington this past weekend.
Speaker 1: And what an embarrassment overall he has been. He poured
Speaker 1: water on a Ravens fan earlier this season. But I
Speaker 1: just didn't think I could harp on that family two
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. That seemed not right. Although it
Speaker 1: is making national headlines, and although that is a huge
Speaker 1: distraction right now, Patrick Mahomes, he's so clean cut, he's
Speaker 1: got no issues. He's got issues on the field right now,
Speaker 1: but everyone can forgive him for that. He's a long
Speaker 1: time investment his family man, and I know so many
Speaker 1: rumors here in Kansas City that are horrible about his family.
Speaker 1: And I'm just the disrespect, the entitlement. I've just had it.
Speaker 1: And this isn't even what I'm unleashing on. This is
Speaker 1: just my segway. But I just think someone needs to
Speaker 1: take away Jackson mahomes sideline access and change his TikTok password.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can change it to something he'll never guess,
Speaker 1: like humility, class a respect. I got jokes to Janice,
Speaker 1: I got choked. Okay, this is what I really want
Speaker 1: to un leash on. Ole Miss traveled to Knoxville, Tennessee
Speaker 1: this weekend to play the Balls. That means that Revel's
Speaker 1: head coach Lane Kiffin returned to his old stomping grounds
Speaker 1: and you a long story short, Balls fans are still
Speaker 1: mad at him because he jilted them with a very
Speaker 1: unceremonious one minute press conference going to USC that was
Speaker 1: twelve years ago. Well, he got obviously walking out pregame
Speaker 1: that was to be expected, but later in the game,
Speaker 1: Tennessee fans were mad at a controversial spot on a
Speaker 1: fourth down play and all hell broke loose. They started
Speaker 1: throwing objects onto the field, which again we've seen before
Speaker 1: in sports. But listen to what they threw. Water bottles, screws,
Speaker 1: half eaten apple, who brings an apple to a football game?
Speaker 1: Vape pipes, and even a half empty mustard bottle, which
Speaker 1: that just makes me mad. Some poor concession stand worker
Speaker 1: was organizing their hot dog and the relish and they're
Speaker 1: catch up and everything like a where the mustard go?
Speaker 1: Come on? Well, Lane remained calm, even kept a golf
Speaker 1: ball that was thrown at him as a memento. He
Speaker 1: could probably sell that on eBay for a lot of
Speaker 1: money right now. And on his way into the tunnel,
Speaker 1: he takes off his visor and he throws it into
Speaker 1: the stands, which is hilarious. Lane Lane Kiffin himself is hilarious.
Speaker 1: He has a way of rilling people up. Anyways. But
Speaker 1: this Tennessee fan base has gotten a bad rap for
Speaker 1: you years, and boy did this get people angry. On Twitter.
Speaker 1: I saw so many national sports writers who are so
Speaker 1: well respected tweeting about how bad the fan base look
Speaker 1: this night. And I saw some local radio hosts in
Speaker 1: Knoxville say you are never welcome on our show again.
Speaker 1: I mean this is now going past the fans into
Speaker 1: the media who you love and man, it was it
Speaker 1: was some good entertainment. But this fan base when they
Speaker 1: almost hired Greg Ciano a couple of years ago, they
Speaker 1: protested like crazy. When Lane left, they lit mattresses on
Speaker 1: fire in the middle of the street. I mean points
Speaker 1: for creativity though, between lit mattresses and mustard bottles on
Speaker 1: a football field. I mean, this fan base is creative.
Speaker 1: They are angry and they and you know I'm a
Speaker 1: Georgia fan, So this has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: This isn't an sec rivalry thing. I just I mean
Speaker 1: I think Jackson Mahomes and these Tennessee football fans could
Speaker 1: have themselves the time because neither one knows how to behave.
Speaker 1: That's from the same cloth. Yeah, water bottles, vape pipe screws,
Speaker 1: half eating apple and a half eaten mustard bottle and
Speaker 1: a mattress set on fire. It sounds like what you'd
Speaker 1: find after you went camping in a bear ate all
Speaker 1: your stuff and you woke up in the morning and
Speaker 1: that was what was left. Half eating apple and half
Speaker 1: of a mustard bottle. Oh my god, I love unleashing
Speaker 1: with you. It's so fun. We have all these crazy
Speaker 1: things that happened throughout the week and weekend, and it's
Speaker 1: just fun to pick our favorites. So I love that segment. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's time to bringing our guest. He is the author
Speaker 1: of Gridyon Genius. He's a longtime NFL coach, exact an analyst,
Speaker 1: one of the brightest football minds in the business. And
Speaker 1: that is according to Bill Belichick himself. He's a three
Speaker 1: time Super Bowl winner. For him, born to Run isn't
Speaker 1: just a Springsteen anthem, It's an offensive strategy. Michael Lombardi
Speaker 1: is here. Okay, we're gonna talk about the NFL season
Speaker 1: in just a bit. But you've gotten to work with
Speaker 1: some of the most iconic names in NFL history. Al Davis,
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick. You got to learn from them
Speaker 1: and teach them too, I imagine in ways and put
Speaker 1: in a fantastic book. By the way, but we need
Speaker 1: to talk about Al Davis's legendary eating schedule because this
Speaker 1: was fascinating. I know eleven French fires are involved a
Speaker 1: bunch of diet PEPSI walk us through his eating schedule.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, that that that's always an interesting one.
Speaker 1: So you know, Mr Davis was never an early riser,
Speaker 1: so he was at ten thirty, you know, he probably
Speaker 1: would have some kind of fruit and diet pepsi. And
Speaker 1: then around the one o'clock it would either be a
Speaker 1: tuna fish sandwich with extra mayonnaise, maybe McDonald's french fries,
Speaker 1: could have a cheese burger from McDonald's always could go
Speaker 1: with Kentucky fried chicken with coleslaw on the side, extra mayonnaise.
Speaker 1: And then at three o'clock always is always three. Between
Speaker 1: three and three thirty he would have German chocolate cake
Speaker 1: from any bakery anywhere. It could even be stale actually,
Speaker 1: and a diapepsi. And then he would go work out
Speaker 1: at five thirty six, and then at dinner time at
Speaker 1: a thirty it would be some kind of prime red
Speaker 1: English cut, eleven French fries, shrimp cocktail Caesar style, a
Speaker 1: lot of Mannies going in that body. So it was
Speaker 1: a unique diet, there's no doubt. But it was consistent,
Speaker 1: it was always consistent. It didn't get changed too often.
Speaker 1: But you know, he liked fast food for some reason,
Speaker 1: and he had his favorite He had his favorite restaurants.
Speaker 1: When he lived in Los Angeles, he loved Matteos, which
Speaker 1: was over off of Wiltshire Boulevard, kind of in the
Speaker 1: you know, by U. C. L A. Area. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: he would any like Chinese food. I mean it was
Speaker 1: it all the pennedd was. But always always with a diapepsies.
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I don't think any of us
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. We really but I've been
Speaker 1: at a table with him where the waitress was trying
Speaker 1: to be really nice and brought way more French fries
Speaker 1: than they all got sent back. So you can't explain that.
Speaker 1: It sounds a lot like Bill Bill Clinton's diet. Clinton
Speaker 1: isn't he a vegan now? He is now? But I
Speaker 1: mean what got him there? I mean, that's that's the
Speaker 1: diet that sounds like I got him there? Now. I
Speaker 1: remember reading the book Primary Colors, and he was a
Speaker 1: doughnut guy and a barbecue guy. You know, I was
Speaker 1: a fast food guy. Loved mayonnaise for some reason. I
Speaker 1: just loved it, and you know, love diet PEPSI never coffee,
Speaker 1: and now would he go to comb I love hot dogs,
Speaker 1: just muster down the middle, you know, he would have
Speaker 1: the you know, he would have certain diets there, and
Speaker 1: then he would eat at Shula Steakhouse at the Combine
Speaker 1: every single night. Michael, let me give you a little
Speaker 1: tip because I love mayonnaise too, and often I would
Speaker 1: go to a place and they wouldn't put as much
Speaker 1: mayonnaise as I wanted on there. So I figured out
Speaker 1: the perfect way to let them know I meant business.
Speaker 1: You have to tell them offend me with the mayonnaise.
Speaker 1: Did you ever dip your shrimp cocktail and mayonnaise? I have,
Speaker 1: I've dipped it. I've dipped everything in manonnaise. I love mayonnaise.
Speaker 1: I put mayonnaise on everything. You know, when he had Caesar,
Speaker 1: it was always with extra mannaise. Tuna fish was always
Speaker 1: with extra and manaise. I've never heard don't offend. That's
Speaker 1: a great line. I might have to try that one.
Speaker 1: I eat mayonnaise, but I'm not in love with it
Speaker 1: like he was. Got I think any little bit of
Speaker 1: mayonnaise is a bit offensive. That's kind of growth. You
Speaker 1: can see that. That's the first question you asked me.
Speaker 1: I usually don't get asked out. Davis his diet too much.
Speaker 1: I was so curious. I had to ask. I saw
Speaker 1: that on Twitter and I was just so stupefied. I
Speaker 1: had to ask you. But from that list of names
Speaker 1: that I listed of just legendary people around the NFL,
Speaker 1: is there one characteristic or attribute that you do feel
Speaker 1: like they all had. Yeah. I think they all have
Speaker 1: an incredible, incredible passion to focus on the task at half.
Speaker 1: You know, we are living a multidimensional world today where
Speaker 1: we're supposed to do three or five things at the
Speaker 1: same time, and we've got all this, and I think
Speaker 1: that they all did one thing really really well. They
Speaker 1: did a lot of things, but when they focused on
Speaker 1: the one thing that they were working on, it was
Speaker 1: always really well done. They didn't they didn't give half
Speaker 1: attention to anything, Michael. I don't know if you watched
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh game this last weekend, did you see that
Speaker 1: t J. Watt play where he seemingly punched and did
Speaker 1: like an uppercut and the refs completely ignored. I thought
Speaker 1: they should have thrown him out of the game. I
Speaker 1: really didn't. It should have got injected from the game
Speaker 1: for punching. Yeah, I mean what happened there, I mean,
Speaker 1: was that because of his star power that they ignored it.
Speaker 1: What what was he trying to do? Was that? Was
Speaker 1: he trying to hit him or was he trying to
Speaker 1: get the bullet? I guess he hadn't heard the fumble again,
Speaker 1: heard the whistle, so he's trying to create a fumble.
Speaker 1: But that looked to me like that was I mean,
Speaker 1: if if we're gonna call taunting, if we're gonna call
Speaker 1: somebody standing over with their hands, you know kind of
Speaker 1: or you know, making gestures, how that was not How
Speaker 1: that was tolerated to me was beyond my own comprehension.
Speaker 1: And then I they thought the play, you know where
Speaker 1: Metcalf runs, and then they reviewed it. I mean, why
Speaker 1: did they have to review it? They basically gave Seattle
Speaker 1: the chance to make a field goal, Like they didn't
Speaker 1: have to review that. That was clearly a catch fumble recovery. Like,
Speaker 1: we're constantly reviewing things that don't need to be reviewed.
Speaker 1: You've mentioned tanting, You've mentioned how much we're reviewing plays now,
Speaker 1: reviewing rest calls. What is a rule that you would
Speaker 1: change as early as next season. Oh, I would definitely
Speaker 1: change holding away from the play. I think that those
Speaker 1: are really bad calls when the guy had no chance
Speaker 1: to even make the play. You call holding, I think
Speaker 1: passive inference. I would uniform it. I would try to
Speaker 1: uniform it more comprehensively, you know what they do, because
Speaker 1: no matter what stadium you're in, it's a different call,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think it affects the game too much.
Speaker 1: I certainly would try to do that. I think those
Speaker 1: are the two things that I would definitely do. But
Speaker 1: the holding calls, you know, are never good. They're hard
Speaker 1: to overcome. I mean the holding call the other day
Speaker 1: with James Farren's on the touchdown pasting Jacobe Myers. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's holding as much as the guy
Speaker 1: as he's got the guy and the guy can't make
Speaker 1: the play. So I think there's a lot of holding
Speaker 1: calls that are out of the play that really have
Speaker 1: no relevance. The NFL rumor mill has been pretty busy
Speaker 1: this year, and you were even the one to break
Speaker 1: the story that the Jaguars were having closed door meetings
Speaker 1: the morning after the Meyer video was released. What's the
Speaker 1: most interesting NFL rumor you've heard this season? I think
Speaker 1: that one so far. I mean, you know, I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of scuttle, but there's more to that
Speaker 1: than meets the eye. I'm not sure that one's over,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure that one's over. I think
Speaker 1: if you saw Urbans talk to the team after he
Speaker 1: won in London, I think from somebody who really studies
Speaker 1: leadership as much as I do and writes the Daily
Speaker 1: Coach with my other partners in that that wasn't a
Speaker 1: message that I thought was resonating with the team. That
Speaker 1: that that talk that he gave after the game. So
Speaker 1: I don't think we've heard the last of that. I
Speaker 1: don't think we have. I think there's more to come
Speaker 1: on that. I would say that's probably the most interesting
Speaker 1: because even though we won this week, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that's the right fit for him, nor is it the
Speaker 1: right fit for Jacksonville. I have a buddy who plays
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, and I asked him, I said, is
Speaker 1: the team as mad as I'm kind of seen in
Speaker 1: the media, And he said no. And you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, no one got hurt with
Speaker 1: Urban's misshap. Let's say it's kind of more fodder and
Speaker 1: doesn't bring much respect on his name, if anything, but
Speaker 1: it's it starts an interesting conversation, especially with right after
Speaker 1: the Grooten emails come out, which does hurt and offend people,
Speaker 1: and it just puts an interesting light on that. What
Speaker 1: is your take on the coach off the field drama
Speaker 1: that we're seeing so early this season. Well, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen a coach not fly back
Speaker 1: with its team. I think that's you know. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: Patent commanded the Third Army in Europe, and the day
Speaker 1: he was set to leave Europe to come back to America,
Speaker 1: he got a car accident, died, and Patton wanted to
Speaker 1: be buried in in with his with the Third Army
Speaker 1: over there in Belgium. I mean, he's buried there. For
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes. One of the greatest generals in America.
Speaker 1: It should be buried at Arlington National Cemetery, except he
Speaker 1: wanted to be buried with his men. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a bond that goes when you lead people, when you
Speaker 1: lead men, and I think that Urban decided to stay
Speaker 1: back because it was convenient. You make it ten million
Speaker 1: dollars a year. You know, That's why we have net jets,
Speaker 1: That's why we have you know, wheels up. I mean
Speaker 1: just get a plane and go. Bro. You know it's
Speaker 1: not gonna cost you have much money, you know you
Speaker 1: can do it. You can, you can, you can, you
Speaker 1: can afford it. And to do that and to leave
Speaker 1: his team, I think you're probably right. You know that,
Speaker 1: you know the team people look at him, But I
Speaker 1: think he lost a lot of opportunity to win over
Speaker 1: his players. Yeah. Well, ten million gives him a lot
Speaker 1: of single dollars for lap dances with that girl. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's not a good look either.
Speaker 1: And I think to me when we you know, when
Speaker 1: when we talk about you know, you asked the question
Speaker 1: what separates Walsh and Belichick, what brings them all together
Speaker 1: and Davis is their their commitment to to the team,
Speaker 1: their commitment to caring more than anybody else. And when
Speaker 1: you're doing that, you said, you don't really have that
Speaker 1: same You don't exude that same commitment. You obviously know Belichick,
Speaker 1: But what other coaches in the league do you think
Speaker 1: really exemplify that? You know? I really like I like
Speaker 1: when Brennan Stanley talked about with leadership after this happened,
Speaker 1: about trust, I thought he was really good. I think
Speaker 1: he's way mature beyond his years. I thought he was outstanding.
Speaker 1: I love him. That rule with Carolina full disclosure. My
Speaker 1: son works for him, so I know him, but I
Speaker 1: really like him. I think Matt gets it. I think
Speaker 1: Matt's really understands how to build a culture. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated with people that know that culture comes first,
Speaker 1: that culture doesn't get tacked on as an afterthought after
Speaker 1: we win a couple of games. You know, I'm always
Speaker 1: is about, you know, how we're going to build a program.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about how we're gonna win. I want
Speaker 1: to know how we're gonna build a program. And I
Speaker 1: think Matt really gets that. You know, I think Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton haven't been with To me, the
Speaker 1: difference always between Sean Payton and John Gruden was built parselves.
Speaker 1: You know. Peyton was wey able to work with Bill
Speaker 1: Parcels in Dallas, and John never really was around a guy.
Speaker 1: You can say Mike home Grin. He was with roum Well,
Speaker 1: but he was never really around the true got a
Speaker 1: coach who understood how to build a team and still
Speaker 1: run the game. And Parcels did that. And I think
Speaker 1: Parcels really has influenced Sean to the point where they
Speaker 1: still have conversations to this day. So you know, I
Speaker 1: like that. I like that part of the program. I
Speaker 1: think I like head coaches to be head coaches, you know,
Speaker 1: Like you know, John Harball is a head coach. He's
Speaker 1: coaching the team. You know, that's not to say he
Speaker 1: doesn't let the assistants do their job, but he should
Speaker 1: impact the team completely. But we've seen that now take
Speaker 1: form in the draft is people looking for character, and
Speaker 1: you're actually credited with starting that kind of conversation. We
Speaker 1: saw in the movie Draft Day that they even look
Speaker 1: at who on the team went to a kid's birthday
Speaker 1: party to see if he was well liked by teammates.
Speaker 1: Do you have an example like that, and it can
Speaker 1: be an anonymous player of something you found out that
Speaker 1: truly in the scouting room that that was a game changer. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I could tell you we went to work
Speaker 1: out a quarterback, high quarterback who's still playing in the league,
Speaker 1: and we went to go work him out, and I
Speaker 1: called him and said, hey, look we're gonna come work out.
Speaker 1: I'm not bringing any football, so I'm not going to
Speaker 1: bring any receivers. You organize it, you demonstrate to me
Speaker 1: that you're a leader, you know. And we showed up
Speaker 1: to the workout. He was in the car with his father,
Speaker 1: and you know, he had no football and nobody to
Speaker 1: work out with him. That tells you a lot. That
Speaker 1: tells you a lot. You know, obviously we didn't draft him,
Speaker 1: but that tells you a lot about the player. You know.
Speaker 1: I know of other instances where quarterbacks where the players
Speaker 1: wouldn't come to the workout to help the quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: that tells you a lot about who that player is.
Speaker 1: When you see guys that want to do it, that
Speaker 1: will do anything for the player, you know. I thought
Speaker 1: it was really really good that that, Like you could
Speaker 1: see in that same locker room that I've talked about
Speaker 1: with with urban Meyer, you could see how the players
Speaker 1: really like Trevor Lawrence in that locker room. How they
Speaker 1: gave him the game ball. I mean, they gave him
Speaker 1: the game ball. They didn't give it to the coach,
Speaker 1: they gave it to him. There's a lot. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: is there ever a story that has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with football that either helped get a guy drafted or not. Well,
Speaker 1: I think there's always I mean you can't put two
Speaker 1: different uniforms on. I think that when you know a kid,
Speaker 1: when he has really good intentions and he's doing the
Speaker 1: things that you know, Like I've always said this to players.
Speaker 1: Every time I've called a player, he's just coming back
Speaker 1: from a workout, whether I call him at two in
Speaker 1: the morning, where I call him at two in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: how you do it. I'll just come back from workout.
Speaker 1: Of course you are. You know, we're just coming back
Speaker 1: for a workout. But I think how they behave around
Speaker 1: people they don't know, it's a true indication and interesting.
Speaker 1: I think that that's really how we have to evaluate character.
Speaker 1: Like when I first got started in the National foot
Speaker 1: Fall League, you would go to l s U and
Speaker 1: you would ask the coaches and they would tell you
Speaker 1: honestly about all the players. You can't do that today.
Speaker 1: There's the hippo laws, all the things that affect it.
Speaker 1: So what you really have to do is you have
Speaker 1: to go on the campus and you have to talk
Speaker 1: to people that interact with those players, and within a
Speaker 1: day or so you'll find out. Do you think overall
Speaker 1: the culture in the NFL, the changes they're good or bad? Overall?
Speaker 1: You like them. I think we've lost culture in the
Speaker 1: NFL because we have the owners really don't want it
Speaker 1: as much as you think they would. They like to
Speaker 1: subcontract the game out. Hey, coach Open's court a defense coordinator,
Speaker 1: and it keeps them involved in the team, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting how they've made all their money
Speaker 1: and other businesses with building cultures that when they come
Speaker 1: in the NFL as a toy, they don't want to
Speaker 1: build a great culture. They don't know what it takes
Speaker 1: to build a great culture. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues. I think when you get
Speaker 1: an owner who understands culture and allows you to build it,
Speaker 1: you will be one of the build all said to
Speaker 1: me many years ago, it will be one of the eight.
Speaker 1: Do you have a team that is a good example
Speaker 1: of that, of who's not bought in on culture. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Jacksonville wants to and I'm sure
Speaker 1: they understand how to do it, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that's really been a problem for them. I think the
Speaker 1: Giants right now don't understand the first thing about culture.
Speaker 1: The Giants are back to the ages of you know,
Speaker 1: of being of the time back in the seventies, before
Speaker 1: they hired Ray Perkins, before they hired George Young, they
Speaker 1: were a disaster. It's called the Church Sleeve phenomena. It's
Speaker 1: it happens in in third generations of family businesses. So
Speaker 1: it does. It's a you can read about it online.
Speaker 1: So what happens is is because you're in the third generation,
Speaker 1: you have so many people in the company that are
Speaker 1: family members. They've only learned how to do it one
Speaker 1: way through the family, and so you're basically stuck in
Speaker 1: time and because of that, you can't really build a
Speaker 1: good culture. The Giants are the for for example, that
Speaker 1: they keep changing coaches. They want to fire the gm
Speaker 1: they have been one in five years. There's a really
Speaker 1: that's an institutional problem, not a not a personnel problem.
Speaker 1: How do you feel hearing that, Jannie, It's it's tough.
Speaker 1: I'm a Giants fan, just to let you know, and
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, it's very it's tough to watch. It's
Speaker 1: really I think it's the curse of firing. Tom Coughlin.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was any reason to do that. Well,
Speaker 1: I think to me, when I when Al David used
Speaker 1: to come to my office when I worked in Oakland.
Speaker 1: I had a sign that hung above the desk to
Speaker 1: try to subliminately get him into this, and it said,
Speaker 1: if you don't like change, you're gonna like irrelevance. Even less,
Speaker 1: we had a hard time changing at the Raiders, we
Speaker 1: had a hard time changing. It's by Eric Schninski of
Speaker 1: the United States Army, and I think the Giants that
Speaker 1: sign permeates throughout their building, you know, Kaughlan leaving, and
Speaker 1: it had really no impact on where they were going.
Speaker 1: John Marraw the run the team, who runs the team,
Speaker 1: the president of the team, is stuck in a certain
Speaker 1: period of time. He's in shirt sleeves and it becomes
Speaker 1: very hard to run the business that way. From all
Speaker 1: the great players you've spent time around too, And what
Speaker 1: pops out to me is Tom Brady. But maybe your
Speaker 1: answer is different. Who has impressed you the most with
Speaker 1: attention to detail, with full commitment? Oh, you know that's easy.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brady is remarkable. Brady is is for the longevity.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just was the other day watching him
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia on Thursday. Here he is forty four years old,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I literally sent him a text that
Speaker 1: I've never seen you move laterally better. Literally, I've never
Speaker 1: seen him move laterally as well as he's moving right
Speaker 1: now at four and you know, and it's to me,
Speaker 1: it was remarkable, like you can't move that well and
Speaker 1: yet he is, so his commitment to his craft is
Speaker 1: beyond remarkable. Mcbronnie Locked to me was one of my
Speaker 1: all time favorite players because he was just all about
Speaker 1: the team and his toughness. He wouldn't let anybody get
Speaker 1: in the way of winning, and his toughness felt through
Speaker 1: a team. Those are hard guys to find. Now, what
Speaker 1: did you think of Giselle and Tom Brady's tweets this weekend?
Speaker 1: Did you see that? I did not see that. I
Speaker 1: didn't understand what that was all about. I kind of
Speaker 1: was too busy paying attention to the games. Well see,
Speaker 1: that's why we have me and you, honest, we'll follow
Speaker 1: all the petty stuff. So it's like Giselle, Tom said, uh,
Speaker 1: I missed the fall, like I missed fall weather and
Speaker 1: Giselle said time for a trade question mark and people
Speaker 1: freaking out. Yeah, I mean, you know, that's the one
Speaker 1: thing when you're not in the East Coast, you do
Speaker 1: miss fall. You missed that time? Yeah, you know, that
Speaker 1: seems like it's part of the game. Now, the antics.
Speaker 1: What do you think. We talked extensively about it for
Speaker 1: a couple of episodes because it's Olivia's favorite, one of
Speaker 1: her favorite topics, and it's become mine. What do you
Speaker 1: think about what's going on with the Chiefs and their
Speaker 1: culture and is that culture being compromised a little bit
Speaker 1: by family members? Well, I think, you know, I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things going on the dynamic in
Speaker 1: that I I don't think you can underscore the Brett
Speaker 1: Reid situation. I think that's going to take a toll
Speaker 1: on any any father, any father, you know. And and
Speaker 1: that's not to say that Andy's not paying attention to
Speaker 1: his craft, because Andy's I think, is a great coach
Speaker 1: and I think and he's proven that. But I do
Speaker 1: think there is a sense of, you know, we got
Speaker 1: these great players and they're going to turn it on.
Speaker 1: I think when you break them down, and I've said
Speaker 1: this numerous times, Tyreek Hill is one of the best
Speaker 1: players in the league. And Tyree Hill is the best
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. There's nobody better than Tyree Hill.
Speaker 1: He changes the game and he changes the Chief's offense.
Speaker 1: Because what he allows them to do is he allows
Speaker 1: them to hit a home run at any place on
Speaker 1: the field. And he's fast, he's explosive, and he's hard
Speaker 1: to tackle. And the perfect example was yesterday. You know,
Speaker 1: it's thirteen to ten at a half, and he's not
Speaker 1: really playing in the first half. In the second half
Speaker 1: when he came back out there, the game took they
Speaker 1: scored twenty one points. So and until they get their
Speaker 1: defense fixed and they stopped turning the ball over. Right now,
Speaker 1: if we were to go to the playoffs today, they
Speaker 1: wouldn't be in it right right. Do you feel like
Speaker 1: the Reed family situation and I live here in Kansas
Speaker 1: City and I'm a Chiefs fan, and it, you know,
Speaker 1: has it's upset the whole city. That story was horrible.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that affected them in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl last year? I think it had to. As a
Speaker 1: father of two boys, I mean, I'm a grandfather of
Speaker 1: a forced little boys, I mean, it would affect me tremendously,
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't know how how you can
Speaker 1: focus and concentrate with all that looming. I think it's hard.
Speaker 1: I just think it's natural. It's easy to say we'll
Speaker 1: put it, you know, but how do you ever sleep
Speaker 1: at night knowing that that your son could be that
Speaker 1: this tragic, this poor young girl, this his son. I mean,
Speaker 1: you feel so badly for everybody involved. Absolutely Well. I
Speaker 1: hate to turn from such a sad topic to a
Speaker 1: fun topic, but we do have a game we'd like
Speaker 1: to play with you, Michael, If you're up for it,
Speaker 1: this will be a lot of fun. You know, in
Speaker 1: the NFL, coaches are used to having the last word. Well,
Speaker 1: today we're gonna let you have the last word, so honest,
Speaker 1: and I are going to give you a sentence and
Speaker 1: you'll complete it. How does that sound? That sounds good
Speaker 1: to me? Writer skills? Let's see. Okay, if you could
Speaker 1: change one play, one play in NFL history, it would
Speaker 1: be the tuck. Okay, t Yeah, you're afford of education
Speaker 1: right there. And my son with the Fordham. I mean
Speaker 1: if they called that as it was a fumble on
Speaker 1: the field, which we all thought as the great Mike
Speaker 1: Holgran says, if twenty guys in the bar I think
Speaker 1: it's a fumble, then it's probably a fumble, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the tough and you know I'm not saying
Speaker 1: we would have beaten Pittsburgh in the championship game. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that at all, saying we should have gone Tower.
Speaker 1: That's good answer. Alright, I was hoping you didn't say that,
Speaker 1: David Tyree. Catch. Yeah, that's just you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: a I'm not an anti giants. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: explain to people what the reality of the Giants are. No.
Speaker 1: I you know, it's nobody he can argue with you
Speaker 1: right now. They don't have any evidence. You have all
Speaker 1: the evidence on Twitter they can argue with Yeah. Geniuses
Speaker 1: with an eraser. Yeah all right. Next up, the nastiest
Speaker 1: thing you've ever seen in an NFL locker room was
Speaker 1: when I think when Ronnie Lott had his finger cut off.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I thought that was nasty. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wasn't done in the locker room, but just the fact
Speaker 1: when he came back in and showed everybody that was yeah. Literally,
Speaker 1: yeah hard to beat. Yeah, Okay, finish the sentence. I'm
Speaker 1: not related to Vince Lombardi, but if I could be
Speaker 1: related to anybody around the NFL, it would be Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I could be related to anybody around the NFL. That's
Speaker 1: a great question. I would like to be I will, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I would like to be related to this
Speaker 1: is this could go in so many different directions. I
Speaker 1: would like to be related to the Hollis family to
Speaker 1: be able to study the history of the game. And
Speaker 1: my next book is about the Hall of Fame and
Speaker 1: about George Hollis and about you know, how Paul Brown
Speaker 1: changed the game. Paul Brown really is a fascinating He's
Speaker 1: the Bill Gates of the NFL coaching circle because he
Speaker 1: developed the operating system that they all use and operate with.
Speaker 1: And George Hollis, through Sid Luckman and through the presence
Speaker 1: of Clark Shaughnessy, allowed the passing game to really blossom
Speaker 1: into the NFL that we know it. So I think
Speaker 1: the Hollise family to be related to them. Is George
Speaker 1: Hollis Greek? Do you know? Because it sounds Greek? I
Speaker 1: don't know, you're honest, but I mean, I'm sure we
Speaker 1: can make him Greek. I mean, anybody you know, but
Speaker 1: it's on their last name, we can make him Greek.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he likes a little I'm sure he likes
Speaker 1: a little feta cheese on a salad all the time.
Speaker 1: And that's what Greeks. Do we see an S on
Speaker 1: the end of the name, we claim them, especially if
Speaker 1: they're successful. The same thing the Allians, we Italians, we
Speaker 1: will claim anybody you know. All right, how about this one.
Speaker 1: The most important player to their team in the NFL
Speaker 1: right now is Justin Tucker Thin guess the best player
Speaker 1: in this position. He's automatic three points. And when you're
Speaker 1: in a game like they were this week, it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: But most playoff games, those three men are And if
Speaker 1: you're John Harball and you go for it on fourth
Speaker 1: and two, when you know you're gonna make three automatically,
Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to give up. That's a great answer. Okay.
Speaker 1: The New York fans that deserve to be more disappointed
Speaker 1: are we know the answer. I think it's clearly the
Speaker 1: Giant because they've won. They've won before, they've experienced it,
Speaker 1: they've been to the mountain. You know. My line about
Speaker 1: Jet fans as the old D Martin line. D Martin
Speaker 1: used to say, I feel sorry for people who don't
Speaker 1: drink because when they get up in the morning, that's
Speaker 1: the best they're gonna field all day. Then my lot
Speaker 1: about Jet fans are simply this, when they wake up
Speaker 1: on Sunday morning. That's the best their country all day,
Speaker 1: you know. And so I mean, look, the Jets are
Speaker 1: a team that really doesn't understand culture. They really are.
Speaker 1: I mean, Widy Johnson has never really understood. He sees
Speaker 1: it as a corporation without culture. Higher GM hire coach
Speaker 1: and then if they don't work, we'll just do it again.
Speaker 1: That's good, all right. Next season, the quarterback of the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers will be, oh, great, great question. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be Sam how from North Carolina about
Speaker 1: I think they'll have to draft one. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Mason Rudolph, you know. And I don't
Speaker 1: think there'll be a quarterback in free agency. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: smells like success. Protein powder. Protein powder, Yeah, protein powder,
Speaker 1: because he's always drinking healthy shapes. I don't think just
Speaker 1: like that too much. So I probably I was to
Speaker 1: say he smells like money. Next season, Urban Meyer will
Speaker 1: be I think Urban will probably be working at his
Speaker 1: bar all year round. I think you'll have a lot
Speaker 1: of time to handle that. I think you'll greet everybody
Speaker 1: that comes into that the Urbans place in Columbia a
Speaker 1: good marriage. I don't see this as a good marriage.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't either. I think his game is
Speaker 1: much more suited to college. Okay, last and final question,
Speaker 1: and this is the money question. On February in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl will be between Blank and Blank. Oh gosh.
Speaker 1: You know, there's five really teams in the NFC that
Speaker 1: are so good, you know, and you can go in
Speaker 1: so many. But I'm gonna stick with green Bay for
Speaker 1: the moment because I think Aaron will play at a
Speaker 1: high level. And then in the a f C, I'll
Speaker 1: go Buffalo here. Yeah, you know, I think Buffalo is playing.
Speaker 1: Will see them tonight against Tennessee. But I'll go green
Speaker 1: Bay Buffalo. But you know, I think I think the
Speaker 1: the a f C doesn't have as many strong teams
Speaker 1: as the NFC. Arizona has been remarkable as being undefeated.
Speaker 1: The Rams are staying healthy, which is critical, and the
Speaker 1: Bucks are still a really good team, and then of
Speaker 1: course the Cowboys have been really impressive. All right, I'm
Speaker 1: sticking with the Giants. I believe. I believe they can
Speaker 1: turn this around. Me honest, I really do. I think
Speaker 1: they can. I think they were just toying with people,
Speaker 1: you know, they're luring you into thinking that they're not good.
Speaker 1: That's why they wanted you to get beat by the Rams.
Speaker 1: It's got a little bit of Major League Baseball, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that movie. We did it. You know, I'll law
Speaker 1: him in. Then we're gonna take them by stets exactly.
Speaker 1: You heard it here first the Giants and the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in. He just doesn't want to be wrong. Well,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us, Michael. You can follow
Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi on Twitter at m Lombardi NFL and hear
Speaker 1: him on the GM Shuffle podcast. Michael, that was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Thanks for your insight. Thank thank you,
Speaker 1: honest appreciate it so much fun. Time to get to
Speaker 1: this weekend's action. Let's bring in bet MGM betting expert
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew. Okay, that was a lot of fun with
Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi, and now let's get to this week and
Speaker 1: weekend of action in sports. We bring in bet MGM
Speaker 1: betting expert Peter Andrew. Peter, thanks for joining us again.
Speaker 1: I'll never get sick and you call me an expert
Speaker 1: even though I had a horrendous sports betting weekend and
Speaker 1: you know why, Yeah, expert might be generous, but everyone
Speaker 1: needs a title. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you guys. Well,
Speaker 1: NBA started this week. It's so good to see that
Speaker 1: back on our TV screens and a great game to
Speaker 1: start off the Nets at Bucks. The Nets are expected
Speaker 1: to win it all this year plus two forty for
Speaker 1: tournament winner. The Bucks obviously one last year. They're still
Speaker 1: a top five favorite win at this year at plus
Speaker 1: nine hundred. Let's go through some of the futures in
Speaker 1: the NBA. Peter, what do you like for tournament winner? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so title. I it's kind of the same as last year.
Speaker 1: I don't love the Nets because there's just so many
Speaker 1: different circumstances of things that are happening. Touched on the
Speaker 1: Kyrie stuff. I think you have some pretty susceptible injury
Speaker 1: players like Katie, so I'm staying away from the Nets
Speaker 1: for now. I really do like the Box. I like
Speaker 1: him to take the East plus four. I think you
Speaker 1: have defending champions. You're you're giving them quite a bit
Speaker 1: of juice there. I think you take it and you
Speaker 1: probably see them towards the end of the season, and
Speaker 1: that once you were three spot and definitely vying for
Speaker 1: the title. Okay, I like it. Wow, you really downplaying
Speaker 1: the Nets. I thought maybe they would come back strong
Speaker 1: this year. Everybody healthy, They had a year to kind
Speaker 1: of gel. Maybe Harden and Durank get that. Okay, see
Speaker 1: chemistry going again. Yeah, I think they do. But you're
Speaker 1: missing a big piece in Kyrie. So a big reason
Speaker 1: why they are that good and why they were that
Speaker 1: good last year is what Kyrie brings in any given game.
Speaker 1: He obviously can put up forty points, but he can
Speaker 1: distribute the ball. He played bit of defense. I think
Speaker 1: sometimes we discount that just a little bit. Having to
Speaker 1: move James Harden to the one I think is uh,
Speaker 1: it potentially raises some red flags. You take a little
Speaker 1: bit of shooting away. When you have Kyrie and and
Speaker 1: James Harden and the one and too, you obviously have
Speaker 1: a forty plus percent three point team. Switching things up
Speaker 1: a little bit can mess things up. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not that I'm against the Nets. I just think they
Speaker 1: have a lot of open, you know, open question marks.
Speaker 1: But Bucks just there a complete team, and we saw
Speaker 1: what Jannie can do after a lot of people were
Speaker 1: just they didn't give them. I think the what they deserve,
Speaker 1: which is they are a legitimate title contender, and will
Speaker 1: they repeat? Maybe not, but I think they'll be right
Speaker 1: there at the end. When you said we've seen what
Speaker 1: Yannie can do, I thought you were talking, you know
Speaker 1: when I always think it's me for a second, and
Speaker 1: then I remember there is actually a much more talented
Speaker 1: yahn Us in the world. So if I barked up
Speaker 1: for a second, I apologize. We can't see it because
Speaker 1: you're sitting down, But I think you are six tend
Speaker 1: so I'm not six ten, but I am spectacular. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a spectacular co host of the Great O h D.
Speaker 1: So I don't have any championships, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take what my genes have offered me,
Speaker 1: and fate has brought me to this podcast with oh D.
Speaker 1: So guess what, that's a championship in my book. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing any odds for best podcast host right
Speaker 1: here for m v P. But I am seeing a
Speaker 1: Luca don Chich leads a pack for regular season m
Speaker 1: v P at plus four hundred, Nicola Yokich when it
Speaker 1: last year, he's plus sixteen hundred still in there. Actually
Speaker 1: pretty good value too. What do you like there or
Speaker 1: do you go with Anto Tokupo love Luca, but I'm
Speaker 1: going Steph. I think talk about a team that has
Speaker 1: been in a tough situation last couple of years, injuries,
Speaker 1: losing during a couple of years ago. Steff has had
Speaker 1: to clean things up a bit. Getting Thompson back to
Speaker 1: what I think will be a hundred cent this year
Speaker 1: will really help them. I think you see the Warriors
Speaker 1: of you know, three, four or five years ago come
Speaker 1: back and and I think they end up being a
Speaker 1: top tier team. I like them out of the West too,
Speaker 1: for what it's worth, I think you have, you know,
Speaker 1: a crowded West with obviously the Lakers, with Westbrook, you
Speaker 1: have Clippers still there, you have Sons. We've talked about
Speaker 1: a couple of these teams. But I really like Steff
Speaker 1: to just have an overperforming year. So you're saying Golden
Speaker 1: State is back, Golden State is back, asterix if, like
Speaker 1: I was about to say, you're making some sweeping, bold
Speaker 1: predictions and I like it, so are you honest? You've
Speaker 1: you've said, like thirty NFL teams are winning it all.
Speaker 1: That's the name of my game. I go big, go harder,
Speaker 1: go home. I can't lose the inter bet if you
Speaker 1: just bet every team, right. Yeah, absolutely, that's my stuff. Okay, quickly, Peter,
Speaker 1: who's your favorite for Defensive Player of the Year and
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. Do you have a rookie? Yeah,
Speaker 1: rookie Jalen Sugs a little Buyer Gonzaga love him. I
Speaker 1: think he slipped a little bit in the draft. Plus
Speaker 1: seven fifty. I think that's good odds keep counting him.
Speaker 1: Obviously an incredible player, but I think Jane Huggs a
Speaker 1: little over a little overshadowed by him. I like him
Speaker 1: a lot and stifle Tower Rudy Gobert. I know he's
Speaker 1: the favorite twin to Priensive Player of the Year, but
Speaker 1: he's so damn good. Plus three fifty. I think it's
Speaker 1: a good pick there and and good value considering he's
Speaker 1: the favorite. I've got to make a poll now for
Speaker 1: Scottie Barnes Raptor plus eleven hundred for Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his. He is about the
Speaker 1: nicest young man I've ever met, and he's a young man.
Speaker 1: These kids are like twenty now, and it's just funny
Speaker 1: now watching my old ass husband play with them. But
Speaker 1: I like Scottie Barnes for Rookie of the Year too,
Speaker 1: so he's in the running. He's in the top five there. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I blinked, And they grow up, these NBA players, I
Speaker 1: tell you, they grow up on you. Let's look at
Speaker 1: NFL games for this weekend. Last week we split our
Speaker 1: three game series. I took the Rams, he took the Ravens.
Speaker 1: We both took the Packers. So this week, Peter walk
Speaker 1: us through the three games you have selected at random,
Speaker 1: and let's see how we fare punishment at random. By
Speaker 1: the way, a terrible week for the sports book. Again,
Speaker 1: our customers are pretty happy with a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I think nine of eleven favorites one last week. So
Speaker 1: I don't know which way you go. Do you fade
Speaker 1: that or you do you follow it for a third
Speaker 1: week straight? But first game, I think this was surprising
Speaker 1: to two lots of people. Raiders minus three at home
Speaker 1: versus Eagles, So a field goal game. What do you
Speaker 1: guys like there? Oh? Man? Um, I like too much drama,
Speaker 1: too much trauma going on in Vegas right now. I'm
Speaker 1: going with the Eagles. I'm going with the Eagles on
Speaker 1: this I'm going with the dog. Let's go Philadelphia, I mean,
Speaker 1: why not time. I'm also gonna go with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of drama with Las
Speaker 1: Vegas as well, and I like stability. I'm going with Philly.
Speaker 1: Love it. Next one, I think to the surprising teams
Speaker 1: one we just alluded to. So Bengals plus six and
Speaker 1: a half against the Ravens. So Ravens almost a touchdown
Speaker 1: favorite at home? What do you guys like there? I
Speaker 1: am definitely going I'm sticking with my man, I'm sticking
Speaker 1: with I'm sticking with Baltimore. You know we're gonna be
Speaker 1: going there. I will be performing there on November four,
Speaker 1: So get your tickets to Monia, Maryland. Yeah, nice plug,
Speaker 1: right there. I snuck it in. Um, I'll go with
Speaker 1: the Ravens big on this one. Yeah, me too. Ravens
Speaker 1: six and a half. I like that. I think they
Speaker 1: win by at least a touchdown. Bengals are horrible, Ravens
Speaker 1: all the way like it. Uh, we may have to
Speaker 1: go by points because we're agreeing. Last one Near and
Speaker 1: dear to my heart, my my beloved forty Niners at
Speaker 1: home Sunday Night football a three and a half point
Speaker 1: favorites against the Colts are great last week, but they
Speaker 1: were playing the Texans Niners off of bye I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go first on this one. Just so we don't agree,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Niners. I like him at home. I'm
Speaker 1: going to throw you a bone therapy. Now, you're honest.
Speaker 1: You can agree with me if you want. We're just
Speaker 1: gonna have to get creative. Then next week, you know what,
Speaker 1: I was going to take the Cults anyway. I was
Speaker 1: going to take the Colts anyway. Okay, so let's go
Speaker 1: with the Cults on this one, and let's see if
Speaker 1: it is the tiebreaker that I'm hoping it will be. Midwest.
Speaker 1: Do love young it? So that makes sense? They do?
Speaker 1: They do? Okay, I love it? Hey P I know
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Speaker 1: running every week. Okay, it's time for our outro. And
Speaker 1: since Johanna is a nice split, last week's punishment picks
Speaker 1: then we also split who writes the outro. So I
Speaker 1: guess I'm up. I'm noticing here in our show sheet
Speaker 1: that Joannice has already written in my outro. So again
Speaker 1: seeing this for the first time, and these are not
Speaker 1: more words, but I'll say it here we go. Thank
Speaker 1: you for listening. As you know, I'm a resident of
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But one thing you didn't know is I
Speaker 1: totes Adorb's Jackson Mahomes the younger and more talented Mahomes brother.
Speaker 1: I'm not into him like in a bay Way, but
Speaker 1: more in like a beeby way. His TikTok's are to
Speaker 1: die for. He is so by a and lit. I'd
Speaker 1: love to pick his brain about the achievement of being
Speaker 1: sponsored by an energy drink to lip sync for seconds
Speaker 1: and his writing process for his TikTok dances. They are
Speaker 1: so liddy. Jackson, please follow me, please pretty please. You
Speaker 1: are the king of Kansas City. You bring honor in
Speaker 1: class to our city. Anyways, dead ass follow back at
Speaker 1: Jana's papas on the Graham. I hope one day I
Speaker 1: can hit the whoof like you the latest by a
Speaker 1: check in more than appropriate locations to talk the most
Speaker 1: by picking spots. Help me, Jackson, I got major boomer energy. Ah,
Speaker 1: you love that kid. I didn't know, Olivia, you're such
Speaker 1: a fan. You do. I mean you're You're a forty
Speaker 1: year old woman in a twenty eight year old body.
Speaker 1: You're such a boomer girl. God, I've never hoped nothing
Speaker 1: goes viral more than that was so fire. That was
Speaker 1: so like. Okay, God, all right, this is my outro
Speaker 1: written by the esteemed oh d. I want all of
Speaker 1: you to know that I'll be hosting a yard sale
Speaker 1: in my hoity toity suburban neighborhood, selling all of my
Speaker 1: giants and Nick's memorabilia because I need some cash, guys
Speaker 1: to buy my new team's gear, packers and the ractors. Baby,
Speaker 1: let's go, Sammy basically a big Harlan Decker Montague. As
Speaker 1: a grown man, I can't wait to wear the name
Speaker 1: of another grown man on my back. Say it with me.
Speaker 1: Dak Er Daker, Dak Who needs New York Sports? In fact,
Speaker 1: who needs New York? That city sticks? Thanks for listening,
Speaker 1: Peace and love, friends, A