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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever

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Speaker 2: This is Stu Gots and this is Stupotoy. Here we go,

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Speaker 2: Jim Holy.

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Speaker 3: I am very excited to have Israel goody Eras in

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Speaker 3: studio with us today. The first thing he says to

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Speaker 3: me as as he looks at these beautiful studios here,

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Speaker 2: But the first thing you said to me is he

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Speaker 2: was are you wearing socks?

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Speaker 3: He's looking at my Stupidity logo and he's like, Stu,

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Speaker 3: are you wearing socks while you're taking a deuce, and.

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Speaker 4: I never noticed, like, you're completely unclothed except for the socks.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like trying to follow the thinking where you're

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Speaker 4: going straight from the toilet to the shower forgot to

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Speaker 4: socks first and said hmm, gotta take a quick dump

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Speaker 4: not sure.

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Speaker 2: I never noticed the socks, and it just creates a

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to imagine the scenario in which you would

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Speaker 4: I mean, you'd have to have a very dirty bathroom

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Speaker 3: Up that, or you put your socks on first and realize, oh,

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Speaker 3: I gotta go. You know, sometimes the bending over to

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Speaker 2: It out, you know what. That's a good point. My

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Speaker 4: I always used to be very confused by this, right

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Speaker 4: that whenever you walk around the house with like sandals

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Speaker 4: with socks, that it looks like you have dire which

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Speaker 4: I never made any sense to me. How do you

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Speaker 4: look like you have diarrhe unless you're going like this?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the socks thing. I don't know, maybe maybe

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Speaker 4: it makes sense. Now wait, can you make the diarrhea

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Speaker 4: look again?

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Speaker 5: Please?

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Speaker 2: Ready? Yes? Is that the look? Very barely? I have diarrhea.

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Speaker 2: I don't really go in my pants very often.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's been a while people tell stories about

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, really, this just happens like it's embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's never happened to me, it's never

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Speaker 2: happened to you, No tailor, It's definitely happened.

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Speaker 4: Direct integrity is high. I will tell you the oilers

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Speaker 2: How about that? Dude?

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Speaker 4: What a pathetic group of guys they looked like last night,

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Speaker 4: Like they just looked like a bunch of sore losers.

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Speaker 2: Who was the guy who took it? Just went off

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Speaker 4: And Sam had the I don't know what you want

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Speaker 4: to call it, just the patience to just sit there

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Speaker 4: and take some of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little annoyed with the Connor McDavid discussion, at

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Speaker 4: least the way they talk about it, like Mike Ryan

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Speaker 2: It's just like and the way Dan talks about it.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just.

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Speaker 4: Like Oh, the greatest thing ever is coming through the sport.

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Speaker 4: It's like, relax, right, all right, Like you know who

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Speaker 4: he is? I got a great comp for you.

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Speaker 4: So there's two names in the basketball comp that I

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Speaker 4: think of When I think of Connor McDavid, and I

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Speaker 4: just like, wow, how does somebody do that?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: Size, skill, ability, everything, right?

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Speaker 3: Because when you're watching hockey and you're watching the Oilers

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Speaker 2: One guy on the ice. He's better than everyone else.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yes, you know who? That looks like often to me,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take it back a little further and

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Speaker 2: Okay, Tracy McGrady, NBA player who was like, how the

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Speaker 2: hell is he doing that? Thank you, Taylor? I was

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Speaker 4: How is he you know, so quick with the handle?

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Speaker 4: How is he pulling up from three? How is he

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Speaker 4: jamming on? He did everything everything you could imagine a

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Speaker 4: at a ridiculously high level.

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Speaker 2: The talent was undeniable.

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Speaker 4: Did he win anything? No, nothing right, So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm not as sharp on hockey as I am in basketball.

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched it my entire life, but I can

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Speaker 4: tell that doesn't it takes more than one player to

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Speaker 4: guy that if you want to put together a highlight tape,

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Speaker 2: Gonna watch that shit.

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Speaker 4: Sure, if you want to say, hey, there's one person

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Speaker 4: I want on my team at any given point, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick the most skilled guy. But you're telling

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the other name. You ready for it, Yep,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. Wow. I like that he's Kevin Durant. Yeah

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Speaker 2: he is. He has as manny rings as Kevin Durant, right, precisely.

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Speaker 4: And so again it's a matter of yeah, love to

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be scared of the guy. Don't tell

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Speaker 4: me I should be scared of this guy. Because there's

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Speaker 4: the thing we've never seen before. Okay, he's a super

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Speaker 4: did that ever, just win you championships either in hockey

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Speaker 2: I like the COMMN maybe Lebron, They're totally fair.

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Speaker 3: Taylor was telling me yesterday that McDavid was having a

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Speaker 2: He hasn't scored a goal. You cannot be the game's

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Speaker 3: And I don't care if you have seventy five assists

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Speaker 4: If you've never seen hockey, and you show me that

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Speaker 4: let's say series of plays from Sam Bennett where it

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Speaker 4: was slam the shit out of this guy. This guy

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Speaker 4: hit the crap out of this guy score Like I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that is, is like four deeks

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just call it like a double crossover. And then

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Speaker 4: and like you would have showed me that clip, I

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Speaker 4: would have said, there he is. That's the best player

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Speaker 4: in hockey. Yes, right, yeah, nothing that I mean again, Todder,

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Speaker 4: McDavid's super impressive, Like ridiculous, jaw dropping stuff. But there

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Speaker 4: are other good players in this in this game, and

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Speaker 4: and Sam Bennett right now looks like the most high

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Speaker 2: What we're talking about is team versus player.

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Speaker 3: You can make the argument that the Oilers have the

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Speaker 3: two best players on the ice every time they take

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Speaker 2: In a pant Hevin Durant and Russell Westbrook ye dry side,

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Speaker 4: You know, they've got some more depth on there, but

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Speaker 4: it's just a different style of play.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't really like this comp either.

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Speaker 4: But if you go, oh, four Lakers versus the Detroit Pistons,

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Speaker 4: and the Panthers are the Pistons. They have a style,

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Speaker 4: they have a defense, they have aything that that really

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Speaker 4: around and look like a you know, a good player

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Speaker 4: every once in a while, but not really for the

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Speaker 4: most part. For the you know, seven game series.

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Speaker 3: This is this is team versus a couple of individual players.

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Speaker 3: And you have a third and a fourth line who's

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Speaker 3: as productive as your first line. You have a good team.

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Speaker 3: And that's why the Panthers are on the verge of

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Speaker 3: back to back Stanley Cups. It feels like the Islanders.

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Speaker 2: Are the eighties this team and I have a.

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Speaker 6: Stat to kind of back up that team versus player thing.

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Speaker 6: This was just the thirteenth playoff game in which McDavid

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Speaker 6: and dry Siddle both failed to record a point, the

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Speaker 6: Oilers two and eleven in those thirteen games. Dry Siddle

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Speaker 6: also failed to register a shot at ten in the

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Speaker 2: Now that dude, after last year, after they lost, it

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Speaker 4: It was all so we're going to be back, blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah. How embarrassed do you think Connor McDavid is

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Speaker 4: for his team right now?

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Speaker 2: Given the like, I.

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Speaker 4: Understand having your guys back or whatever, but I mean

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Speaker 4: there was that one hit on McDavid. I think ek

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Speaker 4: Blad got the one hit on McDavid, but them just

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Speaker 4: sort of acting out and just going off on Sam

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Speaker 4: Bennett and going up that was so childish, and Connor

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Speaker 4: McDavid's got to be thinking, this is the team that

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Speaker 4: I'm going to get this revenge with, Like these bunch

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Speaker 4: of children that embarrassed themselves and got all these ten

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Speaker 4: minute game misconducts.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna work out for he wants to be

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Speaker 3: on the Panthers. He's jealous of what the Panthers have.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I gotta do this shit all by myself. Man,

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Speaker 3: they got four lines of people. They're coming in.

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Speaker 2: Waves at me.

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Speaker 6: That would be perfect for the Kevin Durant comparison.

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Speaker 4: Yes, if he leaves us off since and goes to

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Speaker 4: the Panthers, Wow, my next chapter. Yes, I'm taking my

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Speaker 4: talents to Sunrise, not South Beach.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing that we are the hockey capital of the world. Yeah, Sunrise, Florida.

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Speaker 3: And the reason I said it feels like the Islanders

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Speaker 3: in the eighties is in New York, you have two

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Speaker 3: teams to roof ford just about every sport with the

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Speaker 3: exception of basketball, so you have, you know, you have

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Speaker 3: the Rangers and the Islanders. You have the Jets and

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Speaker 3: the Giants, you have the Mets and the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: But nets do not exist in this The nets.

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Speaker 3: Do not exist in this scenario, or really any scenario

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Speaker 3: for that matter.

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Speaker 2: But the Islanders won four straight Cups. They went to

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Speaker 2: five drive for five. They lost to.

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Speaker 3: Edmonton Gretzky finally, So it's a similar thing with a

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Speaker 3: Fort Stanley Cup and it was a little team out

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Speaker 3: in Long Island, and this is a little team in

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Speaker 3: Broward County, which feels like Long Island.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the trek.

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Speaker 4: From Miami to Sunrise, it's about the same as Manhattan

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Speaker 4: to the end of Long Island.

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Speaker 3: Right to the end of well, not really the end

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Speaker 3: of Long Island, but to Hempstead, Long Island with Anesau College.

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Speaker 2: Done, they win, They go on their run after that.

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Speaker 3: This Oiler team, this Oiler team is not constructed the

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 3: But it is funny that we have a team in Sunrise,

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Speaker 4: Yeah for the third and second of and they're they're

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Speaker 2: He feels Miami.

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Speaker 3: He feels like, you know, he's cool, but he could

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Speaker 3: I think he came here so people can get out

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Speaker 2: Or you can talk about last year's parade? Though you

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Speaker 4: You could just talk about it being like, hey, if

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Speaker 2: So I was.

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Speaker 4: I was a columnist in this city for five years

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Speaker 4: know how many Panthers columns I did. It's probably single figures.

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Speaker 4: But as a columnist in this town. I didn't really

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Speaker 2: Tells you everything you need to know.

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Speaker 4: Like, granted, yes, I was the guy who they leaned

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Speaker 4: They always have an interesting name that I always felt

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Speaker 4: And it's funny because it seems like the people around

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Speaker 4: Yeah, will join if they happen to be good, And

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that though, Like people get on Panther

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like these Instagram or whatever reels, something's

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Speaker 3: Right, and now they've given you every reason to be

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Speaker 2: And I don't blame them. Nobody does Front Runner better

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Speaker 3: But I think South Florida gets a bad reputation for that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's most cities, like, Yes, if the Cubs

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Speaker 3: If the Yankees are bad, people are probably still going

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Speaker 2: Those are the exceptions, they're not the norms.

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Speaker 4: They're saying that people in Indiana weren't like all crazy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying that, that's exactly what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying they also care about the Pacers in a

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Speaker 4: The worst is like when you when you try to

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Speaker 4: term No, that's why I like that, Like nobody's really

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Speaker 4: They welcome all to this panther's cat wagon. I got

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Speaker 2: Can I say something about hockey tickets. His name's Walter Katz.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, the lower down tickets, the ones unless you're

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Speaker 2: I was in row four.

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Speaker 2: Of me, didn't really get to see a whole lot.

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Speaker 6: For if you could get first row, though you want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the status with fourth rows you're not big enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You look at those people three rows ahead

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Speaker 3: Like Walter, what did he do? He bought season tickets

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Speaker 3: the original year they came out. What year did the Panthers?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: But there are people, there's there's like a fan base

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Speaker 2: And that was the last time they were good. They

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Speaker 2: This is like we're going to win the Cup this

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Speaker 3: You have no reason to think that they're not going

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Speaker 2: Like same with the Oilers.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I know they all got hurt and stuff,

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Speaker 2: Yeah nowhere, it's like, wait a second, that's not fair.

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Speaker 3: Right, I want to we'll get to your delayed French

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Speaker 3: Open take here in a second.

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Speaker 2: It's a rare delayed tennis take on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time with Russo and ad

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Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: Now they lose to the Pacers. They lose to the Pacers.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say in large part, but it

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Speaker 2: History of the NBA.

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Speaker 3: He was inside the pate and decided to go back

444
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Speaker 3: further away from the hoop, but not far, not far

445
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Speaker 3: enough where he was taking to three. He was taking

446
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Speaker 3: along two goes off the rim goes in. Pacers end

447
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Speaker 3: up winning that series. Knicks fired Tom Thibodeau. I originally

448
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Speaker 3: thought when Thibodeau was fired, because you don't make a

449
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Speaker 3: move like that unless you know you have the next

450
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Speaker 3: coach waiting. You know you have a deal done with

451
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Speaker 3: that guy, and so I thought it was gonna be

452
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Speaker 3: Thibodeaux out. And the next day the Knicks work, we're

453
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Speaker 3: going to announce their head coach, and they still haven't

454
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Speaker 3: announced their head coach. And now you have Brian Windor

455
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Speaker 3: saying there is interest to Jason Kidd. And for my money,

456
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Speaker 3: you do not fire Tom Thibodeaux to get a coach

457
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Speaker 3: who's not as good as the coach you currently had.

458
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Speaker 3: All right, Jason Kidd, good coach. Tom Thibodeaux, in my opinion,

459
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Speaker 3: is a better coach. I want the Knicks. Okay, tell

460
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Speaker 3: me if you think this would happen. I want the Knicks.

461
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Speaker 3: Hold up a hand, say my bad, we got this wrong.

462
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Speaker 3: We are re hiring Tom Thibodeau. What do you think

463
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Speaker 3: any great move maybe be a very popular Jason Kidd.

464
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Speaker 2: No one wants them, No one cares. They want Bibbodeaux.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because as soon as the trade happened,

466
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Speaker 4: like I was talking to a mean about it, and

467
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Speaker 4: we did this little thing where else, just like the

468
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Speaker 4: Knicks ruined it, Like why why do you have to

469
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Speaker 4: fire him so fast? Right, like, it's only been three

470
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Speaker 4: days since you were in the conference finals, and for

471
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Speaker 4: who for Johnny Bryant because it felt like they had to,

472
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Speaker 4: you know, move fast so they can get one of

473
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Speaker 4: the guys that Phoenix was gonna hire. And then when

474
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Speaker 4: Phoenix hired the guy, it's like, Okay, the Knicks are

475
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Speaker 4: gonna hire Johnny Bryant. Now it's like, no, no, we're.

476
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Speaker 2: Still exploring things.

477
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Speaker 4: We're gonna look at Jason Kidd, what like, why are

478
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Speaker 4: we you signed Tom Thibodeaux to an extension. He hasn't

479
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Speaker 4: even gotten to that point in his contract yet. It's

480
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Speaker 4: James Dolan. It feels like just getting in there and

481
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Speaker 4: being like, hey, let me fix this. Let's let me

482
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Speaker 4: put the final piece to this puzzle in there, and

483
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Speaker 4: it's like, what are you doing? Why are we trusting

484
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Speaker 4: the owner? Not that you know the GM can then

485
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Speaker 4: be say no, owner, get out of here. Why are

486
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Speaker 4: we trusting James Dolan's decision making. Can't we talk him

487
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Speaker 4: off of this and say, hey, maybe Thibodeau deserves another year,

488
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Speaker 4: maybe even just another month to think about it.

489
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Speaker 2: It's been three days, Like it was really very nick

490
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Speaker 2: of them. I thought it was gonna be Danny Hurley.

491
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Speaker 2: Just see, that would have been a good one, like

492
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Speaker 2: an immediate move.

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Speaker 3: If you fire Thibodeau would bring in Danny Hurley the

494
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Speaker 3: next day. That suggested me, you did your you have

495
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Speaker 3: your guy, you identified your guy. This is the guy

496
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Speaker 3: you want, and that's why you fired Tom THIBBANEO. Now

497
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Speaker 3: they just look like morons.

498
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Speaker 4: Well yeah, it doesn't help that they don't have somebody there.

499
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Speaker 4: But even if it was Dan Hurley, you really think

500
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Speaker 4: the New York fan base is going to embrace a

501
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Speaker 4: college coach and saying this college coach is gonna put

502
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Speaker 4: us over the top. Like I get a coach being changed,

503
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Speaker 4: whether it be Cleveland whomever. You know, the Warriors going

504
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Speaker 4: from one to the next and winning a championship the

505
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Speaker 4: next year, But it's not going to be a college guy, right.

506
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Speaker 4: I mean Steve Kurr didn't have any coaching experience, so

507
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Speaker 4: that one was kind of crazy. But you're probably not

508
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Speaker 4: going to get that again, no, Steve. I mean he

509
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Speaker 4: took over what Mark Jackson had built. Remembering that the

510
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Speaker 4: Knicks had a chance to get Steve Kerrett and Phil

511
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Speaker 4: Jackson was there could have gotten.

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Speaker 2: Him, he chose Golden State.

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Speaker 4: He chose the franchise that hadn't won a championship in

514
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Speaker 4: forty years, and actually the Knicks were longer than that.

515
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Speaker 3: Never mind, Yes, I think people were shot by that.

516
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Speaker 3: Steve Kerr made the right decision obviously clearly.

517
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Speaker 2: Well he really wanted to coach Steph Curry. Well, he

518
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Speaker 2: wouldn't want to coach Steph Curry.

519
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Speaker 4: Well, he wanted to trade for trade for a draft

520
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Speaker 4: pick early on that would have gotten them Steph Curry

521
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Speaker 4: in that draft and would have traded Mark Staudamar for it. Instead,

522
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Speaker 4: he had to go the coaching route.

523
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Speaker 3: You know who built that Warriors team, Mark Jackson.

524
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Speaker 2: He's available, go sign him? No, thank you? Really you

525
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Speaker 2: have issues with Mark Jackson. He has issues with Mark Jackson.

526
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Speaker 2: Mark Jackson, who does it? He was a disaster in

527
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Speaker 2: that locker room. There were people in there that just

528
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Speaker 2: like literally, but he did build that team. He helped

529
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Speaker 2: build that team, build.

530
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Speaker 4: That team with phrases like you've got a demon in you.

531
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Speaker 4: Let me get I'm not kidding, like he was a weirdo. Okay,

532
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Speaker 4: all right, so work with that, dude.

533
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Speaker 2: So did you really I have somebody follow ups? We'll talk,

534
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Speaker 2: we'll talk off air. I don't want to talk off

535
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Speaker 2: air or audience want it on the air. What's the

536
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Speaker 2: matter with you? That's all right? I don't know. There's

537
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Speaker 2: no reason to put out personal beefs. It's okay, it's okay.

538
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Speaker 2: So who should the Knicks higher? Is he? What do

539
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Speaker 2: you think? I mean?

540
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Speaker 4: Honestly, I thought the firing of Tom Thibodeaux was questionable.

541
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Speaker 4: Like I said, so is there somebody out there that

542
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Speaker 4: it is readily available?

543
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Speaker 2: Right?

544
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Speaker 4: I don't really know enough about Johnny Bryant. Let's say,

545
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Speaker 4: since I brought that name up, is he more of

546
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Speaker 4: an offensive minded guy? Or is because like Tom Thibodeau,

547
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Speaker 4: that the trick was, you've got to turn the Knicks

548
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Speaker 4: or his strength is you've got to turn Karl Anthony

549
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Speaker 4: Towns and Jalen Brunson, a team led by those two

550
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Speaker 4: into a defensive team. Somehow we couldn't do it, and

551
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Speaker 4: that's pretty much why he's gone. So what you need

552
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Speaker 4: is somebody who can take those two guys and enhance

553
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Speaker 4: their strengths, really make them an unstoppable scoring duo. And

554
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Speaker 4: you know, if you can play defense around them, great,

555
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Speaker 4: But you already went with a lineup around them that

556
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Speaker 4: was very good defensively, and it still wasn't good enough.

557
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Speaker 4: So I think you probably have to think of some

558
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Speaker 4: sort of offensive wizard, if you will. And again, not

559
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Speaker 4: that he's available, but somebody like Steve Kerr who has

560
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Speaker 4: this you know, offensive mind and really could combine things like,

561
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Speaker 4: you know, things that he learned from Popovich, things that

562
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Speaker 4: he learned from Phil Jackson and then put them together.

563
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Speaker 4: I don't know who that is readily available from anybody,

564
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Speaker 4: you know, assistant.

565
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Speaker 2: Be a good time for Curdi ball on Golden State

566
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Speaker 2: and take over the next job. Yeah, be so Kurt

567
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Speaker 2: the job done that he should have done before.

568
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Speaker 3: Let other people build my team and I'll go swoop

569
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Speaker 3: in and win championships.

570
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Speaker 2: What do you got, Taylor?

571
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Speaker 6: And whoever does come to the Knicks is walking into

572
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Speaker 6: the most pressured job where they just made the Eastern

573
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Speaker 6: Conference finals for the first time, they're expecting a championship.

574
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Speaker 6: It's like, hey, yes, you have to be the guy

575
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Speaker 6: that gets us over the hump, get us to the championship.

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Speaker 4: I don't see Jason Kidd being a great option as

577
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Speaker 4: that the head coach of that team. I don't really

578
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Speaker 4: think he's got the sort of offensive you know, knowledge

579
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Speaker 4: to really create a different offense, right, like to really

580
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Speaker 4: make an unstoppable offense out of Jalen Brunton and Karl

581
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Speaker 4: Anthony Towns, I think each coaches a little bit more traditional.

582
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Speaker 3: We'll get to your titness take in a second. We'll

583
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Speaker 3: get to is he or isn't he? Because that's all

584
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Speaker 3: Taylor has been working on since yesterday's show. Jason kidds

585
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Speaker 3: just to me that there was a free agent out

586
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Speaker 3: there that watch Jason Kidd to be the head coach

587
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Speaker 3: of the New York Knicks.

588
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Speaker 2: Is that fair? Yeah? I mean, or a potential free

589
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Speaker 2: agent or a potential guy that could be traded to

590
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Speaker 2: the Dicks.

591
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Speaker 4: I think Jason Kidd is a is a good head

592
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: coach and that if he's got the right staff around him,

593
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, he's the right figurehead. He's the

594
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 4: right person that people will respect. He knows enough about

595
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 4: the game. He's obviously created a lot more depth than

596
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 4: his knowledge as a coach over these years, and as

597
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 4: a better coach now than he was. You know, say,

598
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Speaker 4: I don't know Milwaukee, U, So yeah, I think he'd

599
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Speaker 4: be fine in New York. Am I super excited. He's

600
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Speaker 4: gonna be the difference maker between conference finals and championship.

601
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Speaker 2: Not at all, Not at all.

602
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Speaker 4: And it's not a knock on him necessarily. I mean, what, Look,

603
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Speaker 4: the guy's got a ridiculous career. What else am I

604
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Speaker 4: supposed to say about him? Oh, he's not the greatest coach.

605
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Speaker 2: Ever, He's one of the greatest point cards ever. He's

606
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Speaker 2: a good coach. He came in today. You were you

607
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: were fired up. You like.

608
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Speaker 3: I asked you what you want to talk about, and

609
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: all you gave me was I want to I want

610
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Speaker 3: to challenge Tailor to a race. See, it wasn't so

611
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Speaker 3: much talent's got. Taylor is a good athlete. Man, he's

612
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Speaker 3: got big thighs. I mean, you're better looking than he is.

613
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Speaker 3: But that's the key to running. That's what I've been told. Yes, yeah,

614
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: I've been working on that. I've been working on that too.

615
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: No. So, I was at the at the Meadow Larks

616
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Speaker 2: studios recently a few weeks ago.

617
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Speaker 4: And feeling good about myself athletically as a forty seven

618
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Speaker 4: year old, and I'm just like, you know what, my

619
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 4: legs right now, the way I've been training them, probably

620
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: feel better than they did ever, maybe even ten years ago,

621
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Speaker 4: twenty years ago even. And so I'm looking around the room,

622
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Speaker 4: I'm like, who, who can't t I beat in a

623
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Speaker 4: race in this in this Levettard studio. It just so

624
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 4: happened that Andrew Hawkins was there. So that was the

625
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 4: one name he's got me. That guy got me, for sure.

626
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 4: But take hawk out of the equations.

627
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Speaker 2: Come out of the equation, and I couldn't.

628
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Speaker 4: There was not a single person in there that I

629
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 4: didn't think I could beat. But then I realized, ooh,

630
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Speaker 4: there's somebody that's not here. And he used to play

631
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Speaker 4: wide receiver at North Carolina and run track and run track. Yes,

632
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 4: and so it's Taylor. Now Taylor, hold you again?

633
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Speaker 6: Thirty one?

634
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Speaker 4: Okay, so he's thirty one, so he's got me sixteen

635
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Speaker 4: years all right, Right, you're in great shape though you're

636
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Speaker 4: a young Listen, you're a young forty seven.

637
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Speaker 2: Then I tell you, I'm still getting there, so trying

638
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: to get better. Shit, But yeah, I.

639
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Speaker 4: Would love to see I think I could challenge him

640
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: in a forty I don't know if I could win,

641
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: but I think I could chow. But I've never seen

642
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: Taylor run. This is just based on I think we have.

643
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Speaker 2: Forty yards right in the studio if you guys want

644
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Speaker 2: to do it.

645
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 4: Here Again, the big difference between me at forty seven

646
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 4: and Taylor at thirty one is I need a lot

647
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: of warm up time.

648
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Speaker 2: Really, I don't know stretch. Yeah, I did the right shoes, Definitely,

649
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: I need. Yeah. They can't just be out there running

650
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: willy nilly, come back tomorrow, do it.

651
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 6: And the line doesn't stretch before he goes after the antelope.

652
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Speaker 6: That's that's me right now. Oh wait, wait, I could

653
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 6: just pop up no stretch, no sretch, right, I might.

654
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 6: I might tear a hamstring in the process, but.

655
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Speaker 2: Good to be young.

656
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: I think Taylor would beat I don't want to say this,

657
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Speaker 3: Taylor has a shot at beating Andrew Hawk into the

658
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 3: forty really.

659
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: Yes, Taylor is a very good athlete man anybody. But

660
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: you did you like get clocked in the forty when

661
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: you were playing.

662
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 6: It's probably like mid four fives.

663
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: Mid for that was back then. Yes, did you go

664
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Speaker 2: to the combine? No? You did it?

665
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 5: No?

666
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: Okay, what would you say? Your forty time is now?

667
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 6: I think I could ramp it back up to like

668
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 6: a four, a high four seven. Really a high four

669
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 6: seven maybe low for eight?

670
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: So is he I was expecting you to say a

671
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: high four five four seven? I might be able to

672
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 2: compete with.

673
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: Really, my start is the worst part, okay, So you

674
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: gotta get off the block tailor.

675
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 6: The longer the race goes, the better chance I'm gonna

676
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 6: have in the race. And I'll tell you, uh, five

677
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 6: nine Okay, So my license says five to ten. But yes,

678
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 6: mine too, I'm five nine and three quarters.

679
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm worried.

680
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: I was worried about my license says five to nine.

681
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: It also says John Wiener.

682
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: It also says one hundred and seventy eighty percent of

683
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: this license might not be accurate.

684
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: So two weeks you went three weeks. How much prep

685
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: time do you need for this? Okay?

686
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: Prep time, dad, race prep time leading up to the race.

687
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: I can get you a track coach. I can get

688
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: you everything I get Billy Gill. I mean, I mean

689
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: large time.

690
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: Right. If you want to give me a couple of months,

691
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: then I can definitely get in there and feel good

692
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: about it. If you want to give me a couple

693
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: of weeks, I'm still good. Right before my forty eighth birthday.

694
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: Later, this month. Okay, let's do it on your forty

695
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: eighth birthday. I'm out of town. Every lacross bitzvah. It's

696
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: flag football tournament. I believe it, Taylor, Would you trade it

697
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: all for this?

698
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 6: No?

699
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: No, no, it's not that big of an accomplishment to

700
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: beat me in a race, but for me to beat him.

701
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: And no, but I'm surprised that you're saying that you

702
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: could beat a four to seven.

703
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: You know what, my here's my secret about running forty.

704
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: I've never actually been timed because I refuse to know

705
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 4: what it is, right, and like, I'm like if back

706
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: in the day, I was like, man, if I don't

707
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 4: crack five, I'm gonna be so pissed off. So I

708
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: was like, you know, I'm never gonna do it. But now,

709
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: you know, warming up, sort of running clock in my.

710
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: Head, I'm good. Definitely sub five delayed French open tick man.

711
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: So what do we have? Can we run? I don't

712
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: know if you guys we do have the sound? Can

713
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: we run the sounding? We could do all the things

714
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: that you're you're accustomed to doing here.

715
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 5: Yes, let's say so. Basically, that's that's it. I was

716
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 5: just making on for sers like, I don't know, I

717
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: have to check the statistics. I think she won the match,

718
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 5: not because she played incredible, just because I made all

719
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: of those mistakes from like if you look from the outside,

720
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 5: kind of like from an easy boss. But is it

721
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: harder because it's the final of the Grand Slam?

722
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: I mean, these events are so much bigger than Yeah,

723
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 4: that's hurts.

724
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 5: I mean, especially when you've been playing really great tennis

725
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: during the whole week. You know, you've been playing against

726
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: a lot of tough opponents, Olympic champion Ega, you know,

727
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 5: and then you go out and you play really bad.

728
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, I think if Ego would win

729
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: me another day, I think she would go out today

730
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: and she would get the win. It just you know, like, yeah,

731
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 5: it just hurts, honestly. It hurts, Like been playing really

732
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: well and then in the last and the last match,

733
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: go out there and then perform like I did. That's her.

734
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Can't it hurt? With class? I mean I used to

735
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: really like her. I used to really like her. But

736
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: I've never heard a larger self own in my life.

737
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people are say this, because

738
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm not really listening to tennis takes around, but.

739
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: When you like, it's a missed opportunity for Cocoa Goff

740
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 4: to basically respond and say, oh, I'm sorry. Part of

741
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: winning is not choking. Yes, so you are basically announcing

742
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: to the world, Hey, when stuff got tight, I choked.

743
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: It's not like unforced errors.

744
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: That's like the Houston Rockets missing twenty seven straight threes. Yes,

745
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: nobody's saying the Golden State Warriors were amazing that day.

746
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 4: They're saying, what a ridiculous choke job by those Houston

747
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: Rockets who have never never seen that many miss threes.

748
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: And this woman is basically saying, oh, I played horribly

749
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 4: when it matters most. You know what, she has a

750
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 4: reputation of doing before these last couple of Grand Slam wins.

751
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: She had what of playing horribly when it mattered most

752
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: of choking, of crying, of getting too emotional, not being

753
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: able to control her emotions. And now she's basically telling everybody, yeah,

754
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: I choked. She didn't deserve to win. If I'm Coco Goff,

755
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: I say you know what, Yeah, you're right. Part of

756
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: winning championships is not bleeping choking, So stop choking. I

757
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: Coco Goff saw.

758
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: That you were choking and just decided to just hit

759
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: the ball back to you and let you hang yourself.

760
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: And you did that, So keep talking. It doesn't hurt me,

761
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: it hurts you. You're announcing that you choked the sea.

762
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 6: In Cocoa, goff stands for composure.

763
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: There you go, not for choke.

764
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 6: Really, yes, and Soblenka stands for sore loser.

765
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: And then to say that he's got more hexit oh

766
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: not even like I didn't lose to you, but this

767
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 4: other woman would have also beat you.

768
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it reeks of like.

769
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Speaker 4: I don't like Coco because she doesn't say that against

770
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: other people. She's lost you because she's choked against other

771
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 4: people too, Right.

772
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: She said I lost it, she didn't win it. But

773
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: it's but have you ever seen that before?

774
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 5: No?

775
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: But I kind of like to take.

776
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Speaker 3: While I standing everything you're saying, you are fired up

777
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: about this, because.

778
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: Again it's I used to like Cebleika, I used to think.

779
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: And I saw her, you know, on the Netflix Dock,

780
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: and I was like, Ah, she's gonna be the story

781
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: of you know, that tennis player who sort of shook

782
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 4: free of the demons and like finally started dominating and

783
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: then when she chokes again, she's not really honest with herself. Instead,

784
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: she just takes down the winner. It's stupid.

785
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: I love what she says.

786
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: If Swatek was out here instead of me, she she

787
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: would have won that match against Coco Goff. That is

788
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: that is taking a post match press conference to a

789
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: place I've never seen it go before.

790
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: If I would have choked against swat Tech, she wouldn't

791
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: have choked against you.

792
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: That's the translation of that sense.

793
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: Swat Tek is undefeated against Coco Goth because she doesn't choke.

794
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: Great, so she knows those statistics, but she doesn't know

795
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 4: how to finish