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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lollly, he is Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt We are kicking off our number two here.

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Speaker 2: Someth means it's mock draft time. Lock it up. We're

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Speaker 2: using the NFL Mock Draft database dot com for today's

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Speaker 2: mock draft and the first nineteen picture in. We have

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Speaker 2: three trade offers, all right. Forty nine ers want to

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Speaker 2: give us sixty three ninety four in next year's first

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Speaker 2: round pick. Yeah, you can do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll be going about that four hundred times

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Speaker 3: a day.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots, that's a ridiculous street. They want to give

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Speaker 2: us a twenty twenty five second round draft pick and

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Speaker 2: a fourth rounder this year for twenty Get out of

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Speaker 2: here with the uh. The Washington Commanders want to give

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Speaker 2: us the thirty six seventy eight next year's four five

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Speaker 2: and or next year's four and two sixes. That's a

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Speaker 2: lot of spare change. Yeah, for the twenty. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: reject that, and we probably would have done that anyways,

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Speaker 2: because on the board on the here we.

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Speaker 3: Go, Okay, Terry and Arnold, he'd be very useful. I

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Speaker 3: don't never drafted him at twenties because he's never available.

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Speaker 3: He's never available, but he's played a lot of slot

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Speaker 3: at Alabama two. He's tough near the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: He's you know, like kool Aid to me, would be

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Speaker 3: fighting for an outside spot. Jackson where Arnold to play

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Speaker 3: a lot and probably past Jackson maybe as soon as

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Speaker 3: you know week two or three, you know he's appealing.

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Speaker 2: FASHERU available.

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Speaker 3: Who to take between those two? Be tough, that's a

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Speaker 3: tough decision.

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Speaker 2: But we don't have to make that decision because listen

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Speaker 2: to who else shows Talisi fi.

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Speaker 3: Waga nice Okay, Uh too late to Troy Fatanu, Okay, Arius.

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Speaker 2: Mims, kool Aid, Mckinsry, Donny, Mitchell, Grahmbard. I get to see.

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Speaker 2: I can see now who went who went so off

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Speaker 2: the board? Uh, this is ridiculous because they got JJ

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Speaker 2: McCarthy going first. That's the order.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean McCarthy, Williams, Daniels, Neighbors, Mitchell Dallas, Turner, Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 4: Drake May, Marvin Harrison at ten, Brian Thomas goes ahead

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Speaker 4: of Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, all that matters is the names for us.

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Speaker 2: But Cooper, Dejen, Nate Wiggins, Latham, Verse Bowers, Byron Murphy,

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Speaker 2: Darius Robinson, Jerson Newton.

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Speaker 3: Joe Alt, Joel at nineteen, well yeah, fair enough, But

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Speaker 3: those guys those nineties are super crazy, right, Like, I

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Speaker 3: could definitely see Wiggins being gone. He often isn't. I

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Speaker 3: think Bowers will be gone. And what really happened here

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Speaker 3: was there was a run on defensive tackles, which more

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Speaker 3: and more what you here and it's lying season, YadA, YadA,

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Speaker 3: is the league is now paying defensive tackles and they're

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Speaker 3: hard to find. Rarely does a Wilkins get on the

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Speaker 3: free agent market. You can go get one. So I

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Speaker 3: could see two or three, and I'm concluding Robinson as

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Speaker 3: a d tackle you know, could be gone before the

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Speaker 3: Steelers pick. Then you're looking at a situation where you

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Speaker 3: have two or three.

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Speaker 2: Super exciting. So which one do you like better?

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Speaker 3: It's very very close, but I prefer Fortana. It's very close.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're right next to each other.

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Speaker 2: To me, is the highest rated guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's nice that he is a right tackle. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he's going to be the right tackle.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to project that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have to flim flame around with it.

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Speaker 3: Both of them. I mean, in the most negative light,

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Speaker 3: both of them might be guards. I mean, like if

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Speaker 3: they don't hit, it's because they can't play tackle. They

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Speaker 3: play guard because of physical limitations. Arm length are one

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Speaker 3: height for the end. I think both are tackles. I mean,

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Speaker 3: but it's real easy in April to say, oh, everyone's

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Speaker 3: gonna make it in the NFL. Well most don't, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? But I think there's a fallback

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Speaker 3: plan for both. If you feel strong about one of

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Speaker 3: the other, I am absolutely fine with it. I think

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Speaker 3: Filuaga well and for Waga is the best probably zone

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Speaker 3: blocking tackle in in the league. But Fatan, who's probably second.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's even the more athletic.

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Speaker 2: But it's super nasty there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, they can run, they get downfield, flip a

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Speaker 3: coin if you want.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's trade back in twenty one. We

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Speaker 2: never have that that option. Yeah, yeah, and we didn't.

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Speaker 3: Have any trade offers that that may not go to

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Speaker 3: go to twenty one or twenty two. I'd listen, but

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Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, they have Filaga rated higher than Fatanu here.

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Speaker 3: Not my much, but yeah, whatever, Yeah, I mean pick

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Speaker 3: either one. I'm thrilled, let's sake, Okay, get.

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Speaker 2: An A plus for that, no kidding? All right, So

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Speaker 2: we're cruising down here to our second round. We'll be

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Speaker 2: consider now trading up.

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Speaker 3: Trading ups will be tough thing to convince me on

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Speaker 3: with two receivers, a center, a corner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all yet need it? Let it keep going here?

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Speaker 3: I mean certainly if I mean the first nineteen picks

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Speaker 3: were kind of goofy. If a crazy name was out there,

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Speaker 3: I would trade up for But.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the forty nine ers on the phone again,

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Speaker 2: they're off for seeing it's almost They want to give

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Speaker 2: us ninety four, next year's two, and next year's five

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Speaker 2: for fifty one. No, reject the Cardinals to do that

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Speaker 2: with a terrible team. Yeah, the Cardinals want to give

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Speaker 2: us seventy one, ninety six, next year's two, and next

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Speaker 2: year's five for fifty one.

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Speaker 3: I mean I would consider countering it, yeah, and try

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Speaker 3: to get a bunch of Day two picks.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I have no interest in moving back twenty plus.

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Speaker 3: Here far away, right, I need a lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: in the third round.

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Speaker 2: And wash didn't wants to give us sixty seven, next

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Speaker 2: year's three and next year's five for fifty one? Too

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Speaker 2: many next year pitch, Yeah, I know it's okay. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota wants to give us one O eight two thirty No,

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Speaker 2: thank you, no, no. And oh and this one is interesting, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The Eagles they pick right behind us. They want to

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Speaker 2: give us fifty three, one seventy one, one seventy two

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Speaker 2: and next year's fifth rounder. Sure for fifty.

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Speaker 3: One me unless there's someone that's unbelievably good out there

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Speaker 3: on we moved back towo spots.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get Well, we can't counter there's no way

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Speaker 2: to counter that. We have to accept it. Or all right,

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Speaker 2: we'll accept it. I'll take it. Yeah, they came up

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Speaker 2: to get I'm not interested in trading again here now.

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Speaker 2: They came up to get Keon Coleman understandable. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: we would have considered him. Yeah, still on the board,

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Speaker 2: Ricky Piersaw. No, I like Pearsaw better than Coleman. Xavier Leget.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough commerce. That's a tough conversation. I like

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Speaker 2: Pearsaw better but really close, Drank Cooper, Peyton Wilson, Jatavian Sanders,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks, Chris Jenkins, Marshaw Neeland, Javon Bullard, Trey Benson,

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Speaker 2: Junior Colson, Jalen Polk. I think it's I think it's

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Speaker 2: one of those two receivers. Then my question is, since

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Speaker 2: we now picked up those two fifth round draft picks,

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Speaker 2: i'd be loving the trade up. Now we're going to

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Speaker 2: try to move up to get something.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, center corner, another receiver, Yeah, Jenkins if he

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Speaker 3: falls ten more spots, you know, any of those guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Pearsaw or Lagette, Pearsall Okay, I'm really falling in love

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Speaker 3: with him. His separator and he's got the size, yeah,

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Speaker 3: downfield speed.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pause here. We are at pick because

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Speaker 2: Andrew Phillips just went thanks. We're pick uh sixty eight,

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Speaker 2: so we still have sixteen more picks to go. Here.

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Speaker 2: The cornerbacks still available, they've getting picked through. Uh. You're

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Speaker 2: looking at Kyrie Jackson, Cam Heart, DJ, James Bernardo Green,

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Speaker 2: Jarvis Brownlee, Kaylon Carson, ne m Mike Pritchett.

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Speaker 3: All right, we don't talk about DJ James much and

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Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not trading up for him here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but they asked him to like play man on Neighbors,

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Speaker 3: like play man on Burton, like in the SEC. He

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Speaker 3: always got the number one on the opponenting he had

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Speaker 3: some rough matchups, he certainly did, all right. None of

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Speaker 3: those corners to me are worth trading up for. But

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Speaker 3: I consider him in a few picks.

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Speaker 2: Let's see here what defensive lineman? Why is it not?

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Speaker 2: Let me take a look at the defensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: Here, Ruke Smith, Jenkins. Those guys would be attractive.

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Speaker 2: Massan Smith is still there be attractive Leonard Taylor, McKay, Wingo,

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Speaker 2: Dwayne Carter, McKinley, Jackson, Tyler Davis. So if we want

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Speaker 2: an end, it's now or never. It's kind of now.

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Speaker 2: Are never with that? Do we want to move up

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Speaker 2: to get him?

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Speaker 3: If it just costs us something. We got extra from

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Speaker 3: the Eagles and we got the guy we probably would

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Speaker 3: have taken with our second round or anyway.

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Speaker 2: And Pierce new England's up here. So let me see

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Speaker 2: if I can call the new get New engand get

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Speaker 2: on the phone. Here, let's try to sneak a future

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Speaker 2: pick from them if we can, so we would offer

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Speaker 2: eighty four one seventy one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you don't need that it, don't we have like

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Speaker 3: one seventy one and one seventy two or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that can go in one ninety five for

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Speaker 2: sixty eight. They're saying that's not enough. Okay, one seventy

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Speaker 2: one and eighty four still saying oh, they're saying not

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Speaker 2: enough on our end of that to get that done.

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Speaker 2: We can't get up that far. No, all right, one seventh.

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Speaker 2: I'm not that sold that we need mat Massan Smith

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Speaker 2: I hear you know. Yeah, it's not gonna let that happen. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, so we let mean.

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Speaker 3: It's really hard to do on the radio with this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but frankly I'd be more interested in trade up one

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Speaker 3: of those fifths to get into the third, you know,

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Speaker 3: like something round stuff let alone, not really necessarily round with.

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Speaker 2: We're within twelve picks now, okay, let's see if we

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Speaker 2: can milk it a little bit more here. Okay. Now

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Speaker 2: we're pick seventy six, okay, and he is still there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do we even know he's the best available for

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Speaker 3: our taste? He's better in the corners.

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Speaker 2: He's better than better in the corners. He's better than yeah,

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Speaker 2: any centers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure Fraser is gone and it's it's

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Speaker 3: early for the project guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, he's he's clearly would be the pick.

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Speaker 2: He's clearly a pick. Let's let it run again here.

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Speaker 2: He just went, yeah, okay, we just missed him. All right.

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Speaker 2: You have a lot of offers on this one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we have five different offers and turn them all down backwards. Uh, Cooper,

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Speaker 2: b b There, Dominic Pooney, Cedric van Pranz, Xender bo Lemmer,

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Speaker 2: Mason McCormick. That's the interior guys, best best available player overall,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Paul Benis, Cooper Beebe, Blake Corham, Jayden Hicks, Cole Bishop,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Ratler, devontees Walker, Kaylen Bullock, Jayalen McMillan, Cameron Kinchi.

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Speaker 3: Like Rattler, more and more. But I still think this

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Speaker 3: is not the year for that. Yeah, we can't do that,

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Speaker 3: especially after this. Yeah, a lot of those interior guys, Poney, Bebe,

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Speaker 3: even Haynes.

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Speaker 2: I'm more interested in getting a cornerback here than I

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Speaker 2: am right now because there's so many of those interior

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Speaker 2: guys there are a lot. There's five or six you

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Speaker 2: listed that would all do the trap. We have another

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Speaker 2: You know, top corners available, Ernardo Green, Jarvis Brownlee, Kayln Carson,

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Speaker 3: Might I could definitely see a safety that's slought capable

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Speaker 2: By the way, By the way, we didn't we didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but in the real world is much easier. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared Wiley is still there, Jerry and Jones still there.

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Speaker 3: Instant roommates. Instant roommates. Hopefully don't kill each other trying

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Speaker 3: would roll the dice on the TCU kid before that.

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Speaker 2: Though, your boy alofa show is there?

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Speaker 3: Interesting? I mean our special teams conversation.

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Speaker 2: As is Jalen Ford, Tyrone Hopper, Curtis Jacobs, and Meris Leofu.

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Speaker 3: He's from Houston Christian folks and he is an extreme tester.

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Speaker 2: Jacob Cowing, se Ony Vaki is there, Jalen Simpson is there,

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't like I didn't dislike it at all.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt Jordan Reid and Matt Miller on ESPN put

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Speaker 2: together a little piece here regarding the draft, debating need

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Speaker 2: versus value for thirty two ros. Yeah. I saw that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't go through it though, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So they go. So Jordan Reid is doing this filling

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Speaker 2: the prospect who fills the biggest need, okay in each case,

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Speaker 2: the prospect who would give the team the maximum value

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Speaker 2: okay at that position.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting, and the truth is somewhere in between.

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Speaker 2: And the truth is probably somewhere in between. So for

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Speaker 2: the Bears, they both pick calab Boy. Yeah, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For the Commanders, they both picked Jaiden Daniels. All right,

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Speaker 2: we get our first change here at three. Someone's gonna

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Speaker 2: take Marvin as a value. Yeah, Well, Reid is saking

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Speaker 2: the biggest need is Drake May Yeah, and the best

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Speaker 2: value for Miller is Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of why we're having the conversation, and

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Speaker 2: At four, reach pick is Marvin Harrison. Miller's pick is

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Speaker 2: Roma Dunzier.

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Speaker 2: no doubt. At six, Reed has Roma don Jay filling

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Speaker 3: Both all that I agree with, right, and it's going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, giants. At seven, they both have Joe Alt.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, mean tackles are values.

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Speaker 2: At eight, they both have Dallas Turner. He wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: I feel, yes, a Turner is gone and he's your

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Speaker 3: second edge, and I think that's the number one need.

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Speaker 2: For Miller, the best value is fashion.

429
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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's a really good football player.

430
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Speaker 2: At ten, Reid has the pick that fills the biggest

431
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Speaker 2: need is Faushon mm hmm. Miller has the best value

432
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Speaker 2: of being brock Bowers. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have a lot of Knitts to

434
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Speaker 3: pick here, but it'll get tougher outside the top ten.

435
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Speaker 2: Yeah. At eleven the Vikings, the biggest need pick would

436
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Speaker 2: be JJ McCarthy. I guess he's so available in this situation. Sure. Uh.

437
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: For Miller, the best value would be Terry and Arnold.

438
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: Okay, if that's your number one corner, whoever your number

439
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: one corner would be, would be who I put in there.

440
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: At twelve, Reid's picked that fills the biggest need would

441
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: be brock Bowers. Fair enough. Yeah, Miller's pick that gets

442
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: the best value would be JJ McCarthy. Quarterbacks are weighted.

443
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Speaker 3: I mean it says, yeah, I guess they've both could

444
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 3: have been JJ McCarthy for the bikes.

445
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 2: And thirteen for the Raiders. Reid's biggest need filler is J. C. Latham.

446
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: As I say it, right tackle. Yeah. For Miller, that

447
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: picked the gets the best value is Tulasi Filuagga.

448
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 3: Okay, they just differ on who differ on who.

449
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: The guy who is the right tackle. At fourteen, Reed

450
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: has to the Saints, Tulasi Filuaga. Miller's picked it has

451
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: the best value for them. It's your a verse.

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00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: I think Fogg is a way better prospect than first,

453
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: but edges aren't easy to find.

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Speaker 2: At fifteen, Reed's pick that fills the biggest need is

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Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold. Who's it fifteen again, Indianapolis? Yeah, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: For Miller, the pick that is the best value is

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Speaker 2: Byron Murphy.

458
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: I do was a wonder if Murphy would fit in there.

459
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: Put him next to Buckner. Yeah, it's interesting. For the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: At sixteen, reeds picked that fills the biggest need is Fatanhu. Yeah,

461
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: if he's still out there. Yeah. Yeah. Miller's picked that

462
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: it gets the best value is Fatan Whuh. Neither one

463
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: picked him yet? Yeah, he went. At seventeen for Jacksonville,

464
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: the pick that fills the biggest need is Brian Thomas. Yeah,

465
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Speaker 2: I said, baby, Mitchell. Miller's Miller's picked that gets the

466
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Speaker 2: best value is Quenya Mitchell at eighteen. For the Bengals,

467
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: reads pick that fills the biggest need is Byron Murphy. Yeah.

468
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: The tackles pretty soft for them. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah.

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00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: And Miller's picked that gets the best value is Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Thomas will be there twenty. No, I

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Speaker 3: don't think he will have Colts Bengals. There's somebody trading

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Speaker 3: trade up guy.

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Speaker 2: At nineteen. Reed's pick that fills the biggest need for

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Speaker 2: the Rams is layout too Lay two. Yeah, somewhere in

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Speaker 2: the line. Miller's pick that has the best value is

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Speaker 2: Graham Barton.

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Speaker 3: They would never take him there, but okay, I mean

479
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Speaker 3: if that's his best player available.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty, Reid's picked that fills the biggest need.

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Speaker 2: And I don't agree with this that this fills the

482
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Speaker 2: biggest need Amarius Mems. That is not the Steelers' biggest need.

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00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a value.

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00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: That's a value, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You think tackles because they're expensive and hard to find

486
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: and there's not many on the plane.

487
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: You have a starting tackle. What you don't have is

488
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: a starting nickel corner, and you don't have a starting

489
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: wide receiver and you don't have a starting center.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think wide receiver is the biggest need. Yeah,

491
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: I mean you can't play with what you have right

492
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Speaker 3: now receiver. I could, I could maybe piece of center together.

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Speaker 2: I know, cany flip fluffed these because Miller's pick that

494
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: gets the best value is a Donnie Mitchell. Okay, they

495
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: got that completely bad. That's mems is of value. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's because the position he plays, Mitchell is

497
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Speaker 3: a need.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're completely underestimating what the Steelers in.

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Speaker 3: The first nineteen I basically agreed with, but it just

500
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: so happens. I don't agree with the team that we're

501
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Speaker 3: talking about.

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. For the Dolphins, pick that fills the

503
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Speaker 2: biggest need is Graham Barton agreed, pick that gets the

504
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: best value would be late two, So it's the opposite

505
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: of wounds they had. For the Rams twenty two reads,

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Speaker 2: pick that fills the biggest need is Quinya Mitchell. He

507
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: had him still available in his Yeah board, Miller's picked

508
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 2: against the best value would be Tyler Geydon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he could be Lane Johnson's replacement. Makes some sense.

510
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: They developed Lineman really well. At twenty three, Reid has

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Speaker 3: the Vikings. The biggest need pick would be jers On Newton.

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00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: Gas aren't great. Yeah. The pick that has the best value,

513
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: according to Miller, would be Edgeran Cooper. Yeah.

514
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who their off the ball linebackers are.

515
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: They're not great and their average.

516
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: For the Cowboys. At twenty four, they pick that fills

517
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: the biggest knee would be Jordan Morgan. Okay, yuck. Yeah.

518
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: Miller's picked that would be the best value would be

519
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy.

520
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know how much I value Worthy, but yeah,

521
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: you know we're getting in the end of the first round.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five for the Packers, reid pick that fills the

523
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: biggest need would be Cooper dig when's the genie's coming?

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00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: Name coming. Miller's pick that has the best value be

525
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Speaker 2: a Marius Mimes.

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Speaker 3: That's the definition of Mems. You know, that's a nice value.

527
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm trying to think why some of these other

528
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: teams wouldn't have him, so he had von Miller has

529
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: a gutting ahead of Mims. I don't see that, not

530
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Speaker 2: only either. At twenty six, the pick that fills the

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Speaker 2: biggest need for the Buccaneers is Chop Robinson Miller's picked

532
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: that would be the best Yo, b Cooper Dejen kind

533
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: of splitting hairs in this exercise at this point. Yeah.

534
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, both guys have Nate Wiggins for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they would gladly trade the twenty seventh

536
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: pick for Wiggins right now.

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00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, the one that would fill the biggest

538
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: need would be Xavier Worthy for the Bills, No, no doubt.

539
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: The pick that would have the best value for the

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00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: Bills would be Lad mconkey, Okay, because he already used Worthy.

541
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he has mccaukey had a Worthy, which I

542
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: would understand too.

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00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: I have mconukey had a Worthy. At twenty nine, Reid

544
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: has the best value for the or the biggest need

545
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: filler for the Lions, it would be Cooley miss Kinstry. Yeah,

546
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: the best value for the Lions would be Zach fri Hm.

547
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: I would put McKinstry at both for them. Yeah, I

548
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: mean's corners are hard to find the centers right now? Yeah,

549
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: I guess that's the value.

550
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: I guess. At thirty, the Ravens biggest need would be

551
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: Tyler Giton agreed the best value would be Darius Robinson.

552
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: I could see one of those two guys being a raven.

553
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. For the forty nine ers, the pick that

554
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: fills the biggest need Kingsley Sue Mattia. The pick that

555
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: fills the best value J. C. Latham is still available. No,

556
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: that's weird. That's way too Yeah, that's strange. At thirty

557
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: two last one, for Kansas City, the biggest need would

558
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: be filled by Donnie Mitchell.

559
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: With Racie Rice's situation, receiver might have gone the top

560
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: of the list of tackle.

561
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: And for Miller, the best value pick would be Enis Reichstraw.

562
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: His tape is really good, but his measurables aren't. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

563
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: he would play for them.

564
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: He's tough. He fits their persona too. Yeah.

565
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: I didn't love that exercise. Yeah, it's a little convoluted,

566
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: but I I assume what they asked both authors to

567
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: do is, hey, Dale, you just give me the best

568
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: pick and then I'll do my and then I don't

569
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Speaker 3: want to know what you do.

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00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 2: You know they did.

571
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: They did these things separately, separately.

572
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: You give me the best value pick on it for

573
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: each for thirty two or thirty two, and you do

574
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: the best of which one fills the biggest need. Sometimes

575
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: those match up, yeah yeah, other times they do not.

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00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it'd be fine, kind of fun to see

577
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: a graph like where do they match up? I mean,

578
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: obviously guys like Marvin Harrison would do both, you know,

579
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: but that's early in the draft, when you would pick

580
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: a lip, right, it's a lot different than when you

581
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: get to the twenties and the plane.

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Speaker 2: I think we both we both disagree with what they

583
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: had for the Steelers. Yeah, mems of the biggest need

584
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: and the best value, right. Yeah.

585
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: I don't think tackles the biggest need, but I think

586
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: it's the best value at twenty. Yeah, I mean, all

587
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: things being equal, I would draft a tackle at twenty

588
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: if all the prospects were equally ranked, because they're hard

589
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: to find.

590
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: But it's not their biggest need. No, they've got two

591
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: starting Yeah, you may not like him, but he's played

592
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: and started a lot of games in the NFL, and

593
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: you've won games with him. It's not a pressing. Oh

594
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: my god. If they don't feel if the Steelers don't

595
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: get a new left tackle or a new right tackle

596
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: in this draft, the season's shot.

597
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Right, it's over, right, it's not that way at all

598
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: to me.

599
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Whereas wide receiver, you can't play I don't let you

600
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: can play with you haven't nickel corner either.

601
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: Right, right, And I think center is very borderline.

602
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe it's signed somebody in one of

603
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: those positions, but you.

604
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: Know, I mean you could sign Tyler Boyd and all

605
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: these guys. I mean that doesn't mean it's the great.

606
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't mean it's fixed or that's a good

607
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: team building, you know. Right. Yeah, anyways, let's get to

608
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: another break. He is interesting way looking at it. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: to up the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and that we just did a thing here with Jordan

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Speaker 2: bed and Matt Miller. Matt Miller and they're also taking

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Speaker 2: part in the little latest prospect buzz, risers and surprises

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Speaker 2: here on ESPN. Things are here and yeah that kind

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Speaker 2: of news. Yeah, some surprise. I just wanted there's some

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Speaker 2: some name, a late riser who could sneak into round one.

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Speaker 3: The name everyone's talking about is the Edge out of

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Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan order. I always forget his name, the mac Marshaw,

624
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Speaker 3: Neil and Neel and Neil. Yeah, I don't see him

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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they've got the Reid has Kingsley, Sue and Mattia.

627
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Speaker 2: H kay, I don't think that would be a shock

628
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: because tackles are his tape's not phenomenal. He's a project.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's really athletic, crazy young to Braiden Fisk, Okay,

630
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Speaker 5: I was reading actually Kingsley, Sue and Mattia when he

631
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Speaker 5: went to BYU.

632
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: He was part of the of the recruiting class at

633
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Speaker 2: b YU. They were trying to get Jackson Powers Johnson

634
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Speaker 2: there as well. That's oh really yeah, they would have

635
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: been teammates there. So they both just turned twenty one basically. Okay,

636
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: I know they're both very very young.

637
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Penny Sule's cousin and people don't know that too.

638
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: Braiden Fisk, the other Western former Western Michigan guy. Yeah right, right,

639
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: they were on the same line. Yeah, Miller does have

640
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: Marshaw Neiland there.

641
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Speaker 3: Okay, just keep hearing his name.

642
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah all the time. I think if I wouldn't love

643
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: him as a four three four outside linebacker. No, I

644
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: think he's more of a power. But if I was

645
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: a team that plays a four to three, I get it.

646
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of them in the draft. Yeah,

647
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: that fit that mold. I mean, it's a little scares

648
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: and there are a lot of teams that need them.

649
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: I hope he goes super early.

650
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. How legitimate is the elite Neighbors over the Marvin

651
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: Harrison junior talk? They're they all three say that it's

652
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: very real.

653
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: I've rushed it off over and over because I do

654
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: think Harrison is that special.

655
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 2: Neighbors is ridiculous. One guy worked out, one guy didn't.

656
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of the tie breakers could go to neighbors,

657
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: just with the way they've hndled themselves. No one's more

658
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 3: explosive than neighbors. I mean, if you're gonna get a

659
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: quick slant and make something happen with it, Yeah, Tim.

660
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: You know, by the way, a lot of those LSU

661
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: receivers have pretty good Yeah, phenomenal.

662
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: I mean, so, Ohio states aren't bad obviously, right, but yeah, yeah,

663
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: it's it's a good success rate.

664
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: Said. This is from Matt Miller. A name to keep

665
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: an eye on when the draft gets rolling. Mississippi State

666
00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: cornerback the Cameron Richardson homework. I have six foot, two

667
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty eight pounder. He led all SEC cornerbacks

668
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: and tackles the last two season. He's a man coverage expert.

669
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: Six to two man coverage expert in the SEC. That's

670
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: just about two hundred pounds.

671
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you have some length Mississippi State. Yeah,

672
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: I am going to look into him tonight.

673
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 2: Or six to two, one hundred and eighty eight pounds,

674
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: So there you go.

675
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

676
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: According to reed Verse, being picked inside the top twelve

677
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: is not out of the question. But I'd love that. Yeah,

678
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: if you're a Steeler fan, that's what you want. I

679
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: think he's good, not great. He's also older, but again,

680
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: if you're looking for that four to three n he's

681
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: a powerful player. Ye yeah, yeah. The just aren't many

682
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: of those type of galgrow Yeah. Yeah. Jerse On Newton

683
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: had his pro day workup finally on Tuesday.

684
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't see the results.

685
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: He only participated in positional drills first time since he

686
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: had take he had taken the field since they finished

687
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: up their season against Northwestern, so he had Jones surgery.

688
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, just like yeah, they think that that might

689
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: move him back into realm one. That's why he was

690
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: kind of starting to slide a little bit because he

691
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: hasn't done any site.

692
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: Out of mind he has at the IL guy, I mean,

693
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: you gotta do something. Yeah, stuff.

694
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean it's tough to be Heath Miller and come

695
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: out with no workouts. Yeah right. According to Field Yates,

696
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: people around the NFL are wondering whether the Cardinals would

697
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: want to ensure to have a trade back set up

698
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: ahead of time into this draft.

699
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: I'm sure people were overreacting to them doing it last year,

700
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 3: the first year front office and they trade it back,

701
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 3: and they trade it back up. That doesn't mean they're

702
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 3: gonna do it every year that this guy's the GM.

703
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: But I sure would be hesitant to move out of

704
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: four if I don't end up with one of the

705
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: toppers three receivers.

706
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because and that's the thing, that's what you're trading

707
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 2: away from. If you go too far back.

708
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: You need to give me a lot to make a

709
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: deal with Minnesota. But I guess what Field's saying is, Yeah,

710
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: we'll make the deal with you Vikes, and you can

711
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: take McCarthy.

712
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: If that gives them them time to make the move

713
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: back up.

714
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: I better have a deal in place with the Chargers

715
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: to get the seven, yeah or something like that or

716
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 3: six or whatever.

717
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's why they would want to do that.

718
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: This is an interesting one here from Field Yates, and

719
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to quote here a pair of offensive tackles

720
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: who I think have a real chance to land rate

721
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: late in round three are Kaden Wallace of Penn State

722
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: and Matt Goncloves of Pittsburgh. So to two local guys.

723
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: We mentioned Wallace in the previous segment, we've talked about, uh,

724
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: the pit kid here a couple of times. Real question.

725
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: And I'm not picking on you because somebody also on

726
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: Twitter is a big pit fan.

727
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: And of course I'm mispronouncing his name badly.

728
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: It's nothing like it reads. It's like he's he actually

729
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: predetically put it out. He's like you'd never figured this.

730
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: Out on you. He's an offensive tackle. Folks, you never

731
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: hear their name and I'm sorry, I don't have any appreciations.

732
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: His names much different, That's fine, but they're both look

733
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: like they could be solid NFL players. The pick kit,

734
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 3: I think is more upside. The Penn State kid has

735
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: a lot more as a higher floor. We talked about

736
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: them like two segments ago. Yeah, I mean, in most

737
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: years they're probably guaranteed to be Round three, you know.

738
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: This year they're tackle fifteen to sixteen or whatever.

739
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, so that's interesting that those two guys,

740
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: uh and back to our day have more conversation.

741
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: If you're loaded everywhere else in the draft, Steeler fans,

742
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: and they can't get everything, maybe you take one of

743
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: these guys, put them in the mix.

744
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: You know.

745
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't end up with Mems or Shanho

746
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: or whoever.

747
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: You know, but you end up with a guy who's

748
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 2: might last in the league for a while.

749
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 3: It would be a solid starter, cheap yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

750
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: Did you see the NFL lifted the suspensions of all

751
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: those guys that were They reinstated all the five guys

752
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: that were suspended last year for gambling.

753
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: All the gambling stuff. Yeah, because that was indefinite.

754
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 2: Huh. It wasn't a certain time frame, right, that being

755
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: Shaka Tony and then four free agents Rashad Berry, Quintes Cephas,

756
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: safety CJ. Moore, and defensive end Demetrius Taylor, all those

757
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: those guys. So the final four guys are all free agents.

758
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I knew they weren't big name players, not smart,

759
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: but you wonder are they going to have careers now? Like,

760
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: I don't think the NFL will hold it against them.

761
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: No, you made a mistake, Yeah, you paid for it.

762
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't a crime. You know, in the

763
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: case of you know, Barry, Cephas, More and Taylor, they

764
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: all got cut.

765
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: They got cut because they're not great, right, you know,

766
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: and you lost another year to show the world put

767
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: something on tape.

768
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: And then Isaiah Rodgers, who also is suspended last year

769
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: during that that whole crackdown, he didn't get reinstated.

770
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 3: Oh wow, So did he do something much worse or

771
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: much more regularly? Was it not a one time offense?

772
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: Or and maybe yeah, maybe so maybe he talked to

773
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: other guys because there were a bunch of calls on

774
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: the same tame. Hey guys, you can be amble through me.

775
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: I got t taking tickets left and right, the facility.

776
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: That's the big thing. You can't do it at the facility.

777
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: He can't do it at the facility.

778
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: You can drive down to the red light and do it,

779
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: you know, at the sheets, but you can't do it

780
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: at the facility. Got to know this stuff, guys.

781
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have this. They they put these out there.

782
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: The rules are known.

783
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: They don't like hide them, like don't put the app

784
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: on your phone. Wait till you get home on your

785
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: laptop to make the better you know, that would be

786
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: the best way to do that, right, I mean, be

787
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: smart about it, you gotta know.

788
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: And don't bet on NFL games that too. Yeah, there

789
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: you have it. So those guys are out there. We'll

790
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: see if any of them gets signed here probably somebody way,

791
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: maybe enough in camp or something, get it shot somewhere.

792
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: But they didn't do their career as any favors. Now.

793
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: Quintas Cephas had some around. Yeah, he had some buzz

794
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: coming out of Wisconsin there and didn't run real well

795
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: say it a.

796
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: Really bad forty. Yeah he's a jump ball only DeAndre Hopkins,

797
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 3: but he's not de Andrea.

798
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: You know.

799
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: That's a tough way to live unless you're special, you know,

800
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: he's not a separator at all. Good at Wisconsin tough.

801
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: I can see him getting in the camp. Yeah, but

802
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: he's a great example. He better be a good one.

803
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: He better be boy on special teams.

804
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, be really good. Yeah. I don't know who he is.

805
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: Probably not those other guys. I don't know much about

806
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: them most of the group.

807
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: CJ. Moore played some corner. He's a yeah, defensive back

808
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: nickel kind of yeah, yeah, smaller but maybe. Yeah. So anyways,

809
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: that's gonna do it for the show today, Matt. Yeah,

810
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: it's almost Draft week, almost Draft week. We'll be back

811
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Speaker 2: next week and it will be draft week. We'll have

812
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: all kinds of coverage coming to you on not only

813
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: on on Steelers Nation Radio, but on Steelers dot Com

814
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: as well. You can check out all of our stuff there.

815
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Speaker 2: We'll drop another monk. We we had one drop yesterday. Yeah,

816
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: that was one our latest three round Mack. So normal

817
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: love it or they think we're idiots. Corner of the two,

818
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: but the normal drives. There's only two next week Wednesday. Yeah,

819
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: but you can hear all the draft coverage in addition

820
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: to hearing it I hear locally on ESPN Radio. We're

821
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: actually in Fox Sports Radio. Now, yeah, you'll be able

822
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: to hear it all these very airways as well on

823
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio, so you can check out a lot

824
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: of us during the draft too. Yeah, you'll probably be

825
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: sick of us. We'll be sick of each other. But uh, anyways,

826
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Speaker 2: that's going to do it for our show today. So

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Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson for CJ. Wolfley here on

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Speaker 2: site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lallie. We

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