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In October twenty first, Crystal told investigators that 28 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Patrick first and September asked that Crystal put poison or 29 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: something in the Starbucks coffee give that to Kelsey so 30 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: that Kelsey would no longer be a problem. Then, when 31 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: that didn't work and Patrick was angry with Crystal, he 32 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: then on October fifteenth, had Crystal come back to Colorado, 33 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: provided her with a pipe by which Crystal was to 34 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: strike Kelsey, killing her, And when that didn't work, Patrick 35 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: then solicited Crystal again to come back on October twenty 36 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: first with a baseball bat to kill Kelsey. Crystal tells 37 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: investigators that she did not comply with any of those 38 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: and at the last time, when she was here on 39 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: October twenty first, she sat and said I can't do 40 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: this and tells Patrick I can't do this. And then 41 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: we hear from Michelle Stein that there's a phone call 42 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: on October twenty second, where Crystal is very upset and 43 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: says she's done. Wow, what a difference a day makes. 44 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: As you all know by now, the so called killer fiance, 45 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Patrick Frasy, suspected in the death of a beautiful Colorado 46 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: mom of one, a one year old little girl, Kelly. 47 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: She was last seen at the grocery store with Kelly 48 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: in the grocery cart, calling her mom asking about her 49 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: recipe she planned to cook that night. Had she invited 50 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Frasy over The two were a long time loves 51 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: and then mysteriously she disappears. You're hearing from the Assistant 52 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: District Attorney Jennifer Veeman. There all this coming out in 53 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: court from no one less than Patrick Fras's other mistress, 54 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: a divorced mom of two rodeo queen slash nurse. I'm 55 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being 56 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: with us. This is what you get when you ask 57 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: somebody else to do your dirty work. That's right straight 58 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: out to Ellen colorin Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, 59 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: what happened? What we learned at the preliminary hearing for 60 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Freeze yesterday was that Crystal Lee Kenny, who had 61 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: previously pleaded guilty to one count of tampering with evidence, 62 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: was involved at many different steps of the way in 63 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: this murder. Okay, wait wait, wait, back up, back it up, 64 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: Back it up. Ellen, she's got one count of tampering 65 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: with evidence. Hey, you know what, let's just start with 66 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the big bombshell. We learned in Corey yesterday that the 67 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: killer fiance Patrick Frasey allegedly blindfolded his fiance Kelsey Barrett 68 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: the Mom to get her to smell a mystery candle 69 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: and guess the scent. He blindfalls her and sound like 70 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: loving sexy way, and then when she's gonna smell the candle, 71 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: he takes a baseball bat and beats her head in 72 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot judge lawyer anchor Ashley Wilcot dot com that 73 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: would be the last time I ever smell a candle. 74 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: To Hey, with that, I don't even know where to start. 75 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: First of all, a blind cold. If David walks up 76 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: to move the blindfold, I'm like, fine, turn amound, I'll 77 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: put it on you. I Am not putting on a blindfold, 78 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: forget it. Put it can smell this candle's sweetheart. And 79 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: then beats her head in with a baseball bat. Yeah, 80 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: it's unfathomable to me. The other thing I want to 81 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: say is, you know, thank god he was deciding to 82 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: have this affair and get her complicit in this simply 83 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: so she could come forward and we could know the 84 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: truth about what happened to this woman. Eka Ellen klaurin 85 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: crime online dot Com Investigate every reporter. I was hearing 86 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: the assistant prosecutor Jennifer Veeman saying that he had tried 87 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: to get the Rodeo queen, as I call her, Crystal 88 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: Lee Kenny to come to Colorado three times in October 89 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: to kill Kelsey Barrett. Why why kill Kelsey Barrett? And 90 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: why on the third time you think was the charm? 91 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Why didn't he just stop right there? I mean, he 92 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: had plenty of time to figure out, Hey, you know what, 93 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: this is a bad idea. That's right, Nancy. There was 94 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: plenty of time for him to stop, for her to 95 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: stop participating. And his reasoning, according to the testimony that 96 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: Kenny gave police, is that he thought that Kelsey Barrett 97 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: was crazy, that she had a drinking problem which was 98 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: in the which has not been proven, and that he 99 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: was afraid that she was going to hurt their baby, 100 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: and he wanted custody of the baby drinking problem. Drinking problem. 101 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: She did not have a drinking problem that nobody has established. 102 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: That he's just saying that to get Crystal Lee Kenny, 103 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: the rodeo Queen on board. And another thing to doctor 104 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: William July, psychologist at doctor William July dot com, Doctor July, 105 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: I don't understand why she's going along with it, and 106 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: now she's getting one charge of tampering. So he beats 107 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: her dead with a baseball bat. And then he, according 108 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: to what we learned in court in the last hours, 109 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: goes and has Thanksgiving dinner with his family, washes his 110 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: hands of all the blood and leaves leaves her there, 111 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: sits down and has turkey dressing, cranberry sauce, and pumpkin 112 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: pie with his family like nothing's happening. Then he calls 113 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: this girl, the rodeo queen. Crystal Kenny goes, you got 114 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: a mess to clean up, and she allegedly drives all 115 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: the way from Twin Falls, Gooding and Idaho and comes 116 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: all the way that she drives there to clean up 117 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: a blood soaked condo. And she says and I left 118 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: some blood for cops to find. Like, I'm gonna give 119 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: her a gold star. I'm beside myself. She's all up 120 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: in this and why is she getting this light? Please? 121 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't get it. They're in this together. She's the 122 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: one that sent those fake texts from Kelsey Barra's phone 123 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: to throw police off the track. And she's the one 124 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: that cleaned up all the blood. She says she tried. 125 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: She went there to Kelsey's home three times with the 126 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: intent to kill Kelsey, once with a poisoned coffee or 127 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: some bs like that. Why daughter, did you lie? Is 128 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: a woman that desperate for let me just say, ephimistically 129 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: love this. She'll do anything. Really, Wow, Nancy, this is 130 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: just so disturbing. It's not love. First of all, it's 131 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: not love. This is a what this what's happening here 132 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: is an intersection, is a perfect destructive, horrible intersection between 133 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: two personality types that went together. One is going to 134 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: be totally manipulated and the other is going as a 135 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: person who's narcissistic, manipulative, and probably psychopathic. And when those 136 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: types of personalities can be very charming and very very strong, 137 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: and if connected with the person who has a weaker personality. 138 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking, you know, very weak personality. These types of 139 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: things can happen people. We see it over and over. 140 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: People do horrific things at the under the commands. It's 141 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: not brainwashing. It's just an actual intersection of two It's 142 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: a perfect storm. I don't think it was brainwashing because 143 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: they didn't even live together. It wasn't like she had 144 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Stockholm syndrome or anything to live hours and hours apart exactly. 145 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: You know, to Vincent Hill, it's not Stockholm syndrome. Vincent Hill, 146 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: former cop turned a private investigator, author of playbook to 147 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: a murder on Amazon. Vincent Hill, I've seen it before 148 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: as well. People do things when they are in groups 149 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: that they would never do when they if they were alone. 150 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: They get together, especially duos, they get together and they 151 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: commit atrocities. One, as doctor Juli was saying, usually does 152 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: have the stronger personality. Have you seen that, Vincent Hill? Yeah, absolutely, Nancy, 153 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I've seen that. And to your point, I don't think 154 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: either one of those separately, Patrick or as you call her, 155 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: the Rodeo Queen, would have been brave enough to attempt 156 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: this by themselves. They needed to act together on this 157 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: and the whole thing about, Oh, we we're gonna poison 158 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: her coffee, her Starbucks coffee. That's just sick, Nancy, It's 159 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: really sick, crystaland tells us that on October I'm sorry, 160 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: November twenty second Thanksgiving, Patrick kills Kelsey in a horrific 161 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: manner with a bat in the back of the head 162 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: as Kelsey is sniffing handles with a blindfold over her eyes. 163 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: Crystal tells us that Patrick then calls her after he 164 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: has put Kelsey in a black plastic tote, calls Crystal 165 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: to come out and help him clean up. She does 166 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: not come out that day. She cannot come out that day, 167 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: but she does come out on October twenty fourth, and 168 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: as Crystal describes, when she walks into Kelsey's condo, the 169 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: scene is horrific. There's blood everywhere, there are bloody footprints everywhere, 170 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: and Crystal cleans up blood but leaves behind some telltale 171 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: evidence for our investigators to find. You're hearing the assistant 172 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: prosecutor that is Jennifer Veemon's I don't know that I'm 173 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: giving let me go to Ellen klaurin Crime online dot 174 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, I don't know that I'm giving the 175 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: Rodeo coint What was her title? Out to Allan Deaton 176 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: joining me from La Guys, I haven't even introduced our 177 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: all star annel with me. Ashley Wilcot, judge lawyer. You 178 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: can find her at Ashley Wilcot dot com. Doctor William July, 179 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: renowned psychologist. You can find him at doctor William July 180 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: dot com. Former cop turned PI, author of playbook to 181 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: a Murder, Vincent Hill, and Ellen colorin Crime online dot com, 182 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: investigative reporter at Crime online dot com. You can find 183 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: all breaking news in crime and justice here in the studio, 184 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Jackie Howard and joining me from La Allen, Allen, what 185 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: was her Rodeo queen title? Please? In two thousand and eight, 186 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: she was selected as the Magic Valley Stamped Queen. That 187 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: is the official title. You know, the way you say that, 188 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: I think Bert Parks has any fell in. I could 189 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: just see you announcing at Miss America. Here she is, here, 190 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: she here she is. You know what, Ellen, I'm surprised 191 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: somebody said that in court. Here she is. But right 192 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: as she took the stand to start blabbing about how 193 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: she really did the investigators a favor by leaving behind 194 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: some blood. I'm finding out ek all about how the 195 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: murder went down, how the so called killer fiance, Patrick 196 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: Frazy blindfolds Keltsye unsuspecting to get her to smell a 197 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: mystery candle and guess the scent. You know what? Hold on, Ellen, 198 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: you're still a young maiden. Ashley Willcott, you and I 199 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: have been married or together with our spouse is a 200 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: really long time. We've been through you. Rabbits that I 201 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: have just learned you feed with cheeseburgers, and I disapprove 202 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: of that. Rabbits, cats, dogs, parents living with you, the 203 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: work's children. Long story short. If my husband came up 204 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: with a blindfold and said, close your eyes, I'm going 205 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: to blindfold you. You guess the mystery scent, I would say, 206 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm calling your mother because you have 207 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: gone out of your mind. Okay, So when he comes 208 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: up behind her and says, smell the mystery sent let 209 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: me blindfold you, what was she supposed to think? Ashley? Well, 210 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: why would she let him do it? Because I'm not blaming, 211 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but honestly, I'm like you, maybe 212 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: close your eyes. Maybe hey, close your eyes and smell this, 213 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: right especially things like milk and a fridge closure, eyes 214 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: smell of this, is it good or not? But you're 215 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: not going to say put a blindfold on. But I 216 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: have to go backwards, Nancy, to something that was said, 217 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: and that is that he claimed, apparently that he was 218 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: afraid she was abusing their one year old and he 219 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: wanted to divorce. Here's what I am so were married. Remember, 220 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: he could have just walked out right. That's what I'm 221 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: so tired of hearing in these crimes. Stop with the 222 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: oh I need custody, and oh she's abusive to my child, 223 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: which she's not. There's no evidence of that, or oh 224 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: she's a bad person, she drinks. Stop with this that 225 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: justifies murdering. That's where I'm done. All you have to 226 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: do is walk away from that relationship. You know. I'm 227 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: just thinking about all his lies and excuses he's coming 228 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: up with like that somehow justifies beating her dead. This 229 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: beautiful young mom of a one year old at the 230 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: grocery store trying to figure out a recipe to cook 231 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: for him. A flight instructor working her rear end off 232 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: to make ends meet, had just bought all on her 233 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: own town home condominium to raise her child in very 234 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: close to her family, would talk to them throughout the day, 235 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: never missed work. To Ellen Colaurin Crime online dot Com 236 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: investigative reporter, you know I'm learning from Kardo there on 237 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: the scene. Blood was found outside the outside part of 238 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: the bathtub, on a wall beside the commode, on the 239 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: towel rack, the vanity, the bathroom mirror. Investigators say blue star, 240 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: which is a type of has a type of acid 241 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: in it that will destroy DNA, and it's very, very 242 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: hard to destroy DNA. The blood found, of course, was 243 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: Kelsey's blood was everywhere, Ellen Colorin. Once they came in, 244 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: and I recall predicting this. The brother came in and 245 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: found nothing. The cops came in and they ended up 246 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: spending the whole day and came out and said this 247 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: is where the crime happened. And I don't know if 248 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: you remember Aka at that time, I remember commenting they 249 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: had to find blood through luminol or trace examination, something 250 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: the brother, Kelsey's brother couldn't see with the naked eye. Ellen, 251 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: what more can you tell me about the crime scene. 252 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: That's right, Nancy. They did use luminol and they did 253 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: find blood evidence all throughout the apartment. Everything that we 254 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: know about the manner in which Kelsey Barrett with a 255 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: brutally murdered wi her daughter in the home, we know 256 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: from what Crystal Kenny told investigators, and that's because Frazy 257 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: told her in detail what he did to Kelsey Barrett. 258 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm alone, Nancy, and struggling with Crystal 259 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: Kenny now turning around and trying to play the hero 260 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: and saying I intentionally left evidence behind in order to 261 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: help the investigation, when if she really wanted to help 262 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: the investigation, she could have driven to a police station. 263 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: On September twenty third, which is the first time that 264 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Crazy asked her to kill Kelsey Barrett, and that 265 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: story is very chilling to me. She did not poison 266 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: the Starbucks coffee like Frasey asked her to, but she 267 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: knocked on Kelsey barth store and she spoke to her. 268 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: So Kelsey Breth met the woman who would later clean 269 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: up the blood from her own murder just a few 270 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: months later. That takes some backbone, and not in a 271 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: good way to go to the door of your lovers 272 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: fiance trying to kill her. Ellen, Laura, what were the 273 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: different modes of death that the Rodeo Queen Chrystal Lee 274 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: Kinney had come up with, or that was foisted upon 275 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: her by Patrick Frazy. Apparently it was all Frazy's idea. First, 276 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: he wanted to drug her Starbucks coffee. The Chrystal Kenny's 277 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: a nurse, she has access to dirugts. She brings her 278 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: the coffee, but she doesn't drug it. Then he gives 279 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: what she brings the coffee and doesn't drug it. Yes, 280 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: that's what she told investigators. You know what I was 281 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: just scaring back to Vincent Hill cop trum Pi. You 282 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: have to have to get rid of DNA. You can't 283 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: just use bleach. That doesn't work. You have to use 284 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: something with meriadic acid in it. That's the only way 285 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: that a normal person can get rid of DNA. And 286 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: you can get that or at Low's or home depot. 287 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: Long story short, I'm not giving her an a plus 288 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: for leaving behind blood for the cops. Ye fine, I 289 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: think she just didn't clean it, clean it all up, 290 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: and now she's spinning it to her advantage. That's right. 291 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: I give her an f because let's keep in mind, listen, 292 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: this was a very brutal crime. So I'm sure that 293 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: crime scene was very bloody. In my one prairians that 294 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: hopefully that first blow knocked Kelsey out and she didn't 295 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: have to suffer through how painful this would be. But 296 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Nancy, I think what really happened, Oh 297 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: she missed the spot here and there, and oh now 298 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: let me just make it look like, oh I left 299 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: this for you guys, because yeah, like he had selin 300 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: grata leaving the crimes leading up to the Witch's house. 301 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: You know, long story short, we still haven't discovered where 302 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: is Kelsey Barrett's body. All the testimony was today that 303 00:19:54,800 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: the testimony was that he told Crystal Lee that he 304 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: was thinking about losing it either in a landfill or 305 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: in a river. And that's as much as it came 306 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: out in testimony today Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. Police 307 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: talked about searching Kelsey's home in Woodland Park, how the 308 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: first couple of times they were in her house, they 309 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: didn't see any signs of any criminal activity, They didn't 310 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: see any signs of blood, but that one of the 311 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: cadaver dogs at one point made a hit on a 312 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: car outside of Kelsey's apartment, the backside of a car 313 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: picked up on something, but at that point they hadn't 314 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: found anything. Then police say when Kelsey's family came in town, 315 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: they noticed something strange, possibly blood in her bathroom, so 316 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: they went back and checked it again, and sure enough, 317 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: they said CBI was able to find and test samples 318 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: of blood in various spots throughout Kelsey's bathroom and that 319 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: it proved positive that it can that it matched Kelsey's DNA. Lastly, 320 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: as I walked out of the courtroom just now, they 321 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: just started discussing the relationship between that nurse and Idaho 322 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: and Patrick Frazy. I'm again, her name is Crystal Lee Kenny. 323 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: This is somebody that investigators say new Patrick from years ago, 324 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: and that in recent months and even I think within 325 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: a year or so, had rekindled a relationship, and that 326 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Kenny made several trips to Colorado even had been intimate 327 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: with Patrick while she was here. And that is the 328 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: point where I stepped out. So we're not sure yet 329 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: what they've revealed since that time, but lots of things 330 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: we're learning today about what investigators learned, how they tracked 331 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: her phone, how they tested blood in a bathroom at 332 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: Kelsey's house, and this relationship Patrick potentially had with this 333 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: nurse from Idaho. You were hearing from our friends at 334 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: KUSA TV outside the Teller Kearny Courthouse. Wait a minute, 335 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: let me understand something, a k Ellen Klaura and Crime 336 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter. So after he bludgeons Kelsey dead, 337 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: after he blindfalls her and tells her to smell a 338 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: mystery candle. Oh, are you telling me that he brings 339 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: the rodeo queen Chris to Lee Kenny all the way 340 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: from Idaho as she comes of her own volition, and 341 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: then after killing Kelsey, they have sex. I'm just a 342 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: speechless and disbelief at this story. It's incredible that Patrick 343 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Frazy had a confidence. If Crystal Cunny's story is true, 344 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: he knew that he could call her on Thanksgiving Day 345 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: to tell her that she needs to clean up a 346 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: mass that he made and that she would come running, 347 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 1: and she did. She left the next day and she 348 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: arrived there to Kelsey's apartment on November twenty fourth, two 349 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: days later. So that means that that awful, bloody scene 350 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: that she describes as sitting there sitting there for a 351 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: day and a half, and meanwhile, Patrick Frazy has taken 352 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: Kelsey's body, stuffed it into a black toepag and basically 353 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: kept it in storage until he can get rid of 354 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: the roomains with the help of his mistress. Okay, hold on, 355 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the body. And there's something 356 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: very dispassionate to me. Doctor William July, psychologist. You can 357 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: find him at doctor William July one word dot com. 358 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: Doctor July. Of sticking someone you've loved that has given 359 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: birth to your child, sticking her beat up, mushed up 360 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: body into a tote bag and carrying her out, there's 361 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: just it's just so dispassionate, so cold, doctor July exactly. 362 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: And this is one of the things that as I 363 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: listened to this and watch this story develop, I would 364 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: like for everybody in the public to look at how 365 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: he did what he did, hitting her with a baseball bat, 366 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: telling you the smell of candle, putting you in a 367 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: vulnerable position, blindfolded, so that so that I can bludgeon 368 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: you with a baseball bat. Okay, there's more to that 369 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: type of killing. If you just want to kill somebody, 370 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: there there are other ways to do it. But this 371 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: implies that there's a malicious kind of anger and visceral 372 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: hate or something possibly that is taking place there, and 373 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: that's something that I'm sure the prosecutors are going to 374 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: focus on when they bring a psychologist in to testify 375 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: about this. You know, I just don't get it, asked 376 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: she Wilcott. Now, this is what Miss Rodeo Queen is saying. Now, 377 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: she's saying that she although we know that she has 378 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: been quote in love with Patrick Frasey since I guess 379 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: they were in high school according to her friends, she 380 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: says she's starting a relationship in twenty eighteen and didn't 381 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: know about Kaylee and Kelsey. I don't believe that for 382 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: a minute. Until that summer she stayed with him. She says. 383 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: Phrasey claimed Kelsey was a horrible mother and would be 384 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: abusive to Kelly, but he never filed a Defacts Department 385 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: Family Children's Service report ever or tell his family or 386 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: her family nothing about it. Nothing was ever said. And 387 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: then suddenly Phrasie wanted to Kenny to quote get rid 388 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: of Kelsey and told her she should poison Kelsey's caramel machiato. 389 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: But Rodeo Queen says Phrasie asked her to poison the 390 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: drink because Kenny often carried around medications because she was 391 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: also a nurse. So she goes all the way, I 392 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: guess what, to meet the other woman to her front 393 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: door and give her a coffee without the poison. So 394 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: I just don't understand her going along with all this, 395 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: and now she's getting a sweetheart deal. I don't get it, Ashley. Yeah, 396 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, all right, So we all know 397 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: some women are attracted to quote unquote bad boys. That's 398 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: one thing. This is a criminal. This is someone who 399 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: was plotting to kill her for a very long time. 400 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: This woman not only should have run away, right, she 401 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: also should have reported it to someone, to the police. 402 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: She should have done something about it. She should have 403 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: gone to Kelsey and said, hey, by the way, I 404 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: know your fiance and here's what he's saying. He wanted 405 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: me to do, he wants to do. There's so many 406 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: ways this murder could have been prevented. That's what makes 407 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: me so angry about this woman. And then on top 408 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: of that, like you suggested, she's getting a slap on 409 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: the wrist. And so I don't understand why she's not 410 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: facing more severe charges because of her involvement. She was 411 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: complicit in this plan. She knew ahead of time he 412 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: intended to kill her in some manner. Do you not 413 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: understand why they are letting her get a free ride? 414 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Listen to the prosecutor. Certainly she took a plea just 415 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: a little while ago. That's in the public record, so 416 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: everybody can see that. They can use her testimony today 417 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: and certainly know one of the questions today is we 418 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't even know where the murder happened in the apartment, 419 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: even which room, or where it happened at all without 420 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: her testimony. That was one of the questions elicited of 421 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: the law enforcement today. You've heard her cooperation, the information 422 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: she provided, how much we knew, and how much she 423 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: actually provided to us. I think any member of the 424 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: public or yourselves can measure whether he could potentially happen 425 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: to her as appropriate or fair or right. But certainly 426 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: you've also heard through court and everybody can opine based 427 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: on the fact she'll put out there of what she 428 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: has provided law enforcement. You asked a little bit about 429 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: potential charges. Certainly, if you're looking at an attempted murder count, 430 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: it has right in the Colorado's Statute that if you 431 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: abandon it, that is a defense to attempted murder. You 432 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: heard the evidence today of the three times, and each 433 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: time she did abandon it. But that's something you can 434 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: ask your legal advisors of. Certainly, on the counts of solicitation, 435 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: she's not the one soliciting. You would charge the person 436 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: who's actually soliciting for that, not the necessarily the person 437 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: that they've solicited in terms of that. If that explains 438 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: at least some of the charges that may be going 439 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: through your mind. Yeah, there's a lot going through my 440 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: mind right now. Why this rodeo queen is getting a 441 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: free ride after she was part and parcel conspiring to 442 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: kill this young mom three times before. But hey, there's 443 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: another woman involved in this scenario. I'm not talking about 444 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: Kelsey Barrett. I'm not talking about the little baby girl, Kelly. 445 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the rodeo queen. I'm talking about 446 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Phrasey's mom talking about the toilet and the blood 447 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: on the toilet that wasn't found until he was December 448 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: sixth as a test Monday today, and it was Kelsey's 449 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: mom or excuse me, Kelsey's brother who found it. What 450 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: happened is Kelsey's mother and brother came into town looking 451 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: for her, that they had moved into the house and 452 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: sometime early morning hours found the blood on the toilet. 453 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: I guess the only other thing you noticed is the 454 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: person who was cleaning up the scene missed it too. 455 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: So there is a certain fortunate, the fortuitousness for the 456 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: law enforcement. Yes, law enforcement did not see it when 457 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: they went in there on the fourth, nor did nor 458 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: did the person cleaning up the seen see it on 459 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: the twenty fourth, and likely for everybody. I guess the 460 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: brother did see it on the sixth. You are hearing 461 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: from the local district attorney, Dan Lee, explaining why cops 462 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: missed some of the blood in the bathroom. Thank goodness, 463 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: the family didn't. Speaking of family, Oh, it is all 464 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: in the family. Because Ellen Colaurin crimaline dot Com investigative reporter. 465 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: We are hearing and this is all unfolding and a 466 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: court of law and a pre trial hearing. We're hearing 467 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: a lot right now about the girlfriend, the other girlfriend, 468 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: the rodeo queen. But there's another woman involved, maybe ten gently, 469 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: maybe on the fringes. Maybe she didn't have any idea 470 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: what was going on. But the district attorney, Dan May 471 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: said that testimony would reveal that Kelsey's body was burned burned, 472 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: and that they had been Sheila Phrasie to go before 473 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: the judge as a witness, but that she insists on 474 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: remaining silent and not speaking about what her son and 475 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: may have done. We're also learning the mother of Patrick Frasie, 476 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: according to some witnesses, was there for the quote burning. 477 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: Let me say that again. Just before journeying for lunch, 478 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: the DA Dan May tried again to convince Judge Cells 479 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: that Phrasie's mother should testify. He said. The DA said 480 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: Phrasie's mother was present at the quote burning and seemed 481 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: to imply that Barret's body had been burned. Allen Claura 482 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: and Crime Online. What do we know about Phrasie's mother? 483 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: What we know according to the testimony that was given 484 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: in court yesterday, Eila Frazy was at home during the 485 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: time on November twenty fourth, that Patrick Frazy on his 486 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: mistress burned evidence in a haystack, and prosecutors indicated that 487 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: they absolutely believed that Kelsey Breth's body was a part 488 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: of that. And like you said, Mistress, the Rodeo queen 489 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: was there to burn Kelsey's body too. She had to 490 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: stand by there. She was there too. She was participating. Um, 491 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: like you said, Nancy, Maybe Sheila Prazy didn't know exactly 492 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: what was going on, but she probably had the wherewithal 493 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: to put two and two together. When just a couple 494 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: of weeks later, Kelsey Barrett is reported missing and all 495 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: she has done so far is try and get custody 496 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: of that baby. She pleaded the fifth yesterday in court 497 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: and she did not have to testify. Slater returns to 498 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: the stand, I assume as a an investigator, which turns 499 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: to the stand, and this is how all the evidence 500 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: came out about Crystal Kenny, the rodeo queen. The investigator 501 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: discussed with talked about Phrasie getting upset he's getting all 502 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: this from Kenny because Kenny didn't poison Keltzie in a 503 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: drink in September. Then, when Kenny arrived in Colorado, she 504 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: asked Frasie what to do, and Phrasie said, Hey, you're smart, 505 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: you figure it out. Phrasie later tells her he had 506 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: a tool she could use and told her to use 507 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: a metal rod hit Bareth in the back of the head. 508 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: He says to Kenny, quote, it's not that hard, as 509 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: she will caught if I could get close to him 510 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: and get my hands around his neck or frankly the 511 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: rodeo queen's neck. Because let me tell you something. The 512 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: other night, one of my twins, at just as we 513 00:32:53,760 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: were going to sleep, started crying. And I think they 514 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: were tired. We'd stayed up like watching a movie, which 515 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: we shouldn't have done on a school night. They have 516 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: a lot of work at school, a lot of big projects, 517 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: and I think they were just tired, and they didn't 518 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: make a sound, but I looked over and saw one 519 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: of them was crying in the dark. You know what, 520 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: Kelly is not going to have her mom there. She's 521 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: not going to have her dad there when she cries 522 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: in the dark at night or any other time when 523 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: she falls and then scrapes her knees when she's upset, 524 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: or somebody bullies her at school, which happens to everybody. 525 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: Just there is no replacement for a mother's love, and 526 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: she's never going to have that, Ashley, because of these 527 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: two devils straight from hell. It makes it breaks my heart, 528 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: but really it makes me angry, very very angry. The 529 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: other piece of this, I have to say again, I'm 530 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: not blaming anyone other than him, the fiance and the 531 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 1: rodeo queen who was complicit. I don't care what they 532 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: say she was. But here's the thing I think, looking 533 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: back in retrospect, there are going to be individuals involved 534 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: in this man's life who say, Wow, he did seem off, 535 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: This wasn't quite right, he was too cold, he was weird. 536 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: Whatever their gut tells them, they need to believe. So 537 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: moving forward, I think anyone needs to learn to trust 538 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: their gut and recognize if something feels off about a person, 539 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: it is well. Take a listen to this. And I 540 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: want to hear you way in doctor William July, because 541 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: not only did he try to get her to poison 542 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: Kelsey with a caramel machiato, then he tells her to 543 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: use a steel rod. Then the investigator says, Phrasie says 544 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: she use a bat and told Kenny to just start 545 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: swinging when Barrett got home and put her body in 546 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: the dumpster. That was in October, and Kenny says she 547 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: got a baseball bat from her home and went to 548 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: Barett's but then left and didn't do it. Kenny said, 549 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: Phrasie got mad at her and said, well, if you 550 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: can't do it. I guess I'll have to. I would 551 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: have said, fine, I won't do it. I guess you'll 552 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: have to. I mean, I just don't understand why she 553 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: kept going along through all this. Doctor William July, you know, 554 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: and Nanswy you just said something that I wish everybody 555 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: who listens to your show will listen to that and 556 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: take it to heart. Behavior has a set of traits that, no, 557 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: this is not gonna be the first time people noticed 558 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: that this guy was weird, bizarre, strange, said weird things, 559 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: or had ideas that were that were not normal or 560 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: maybe even not safe. Listen to what people do around you, 561 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: watch what people do. You don't have to be paranoid, 562 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: but just pay attention to what people do. These sorts 563 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: of things should not be a surprise. There are anti 564 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: sdist to this kind of behavior. You know too, Vincent 565 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: hill Cop turned to Pi, author of playbook to a Murderer. 566 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: We also learned that before she goes to clean up 567 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: Kelsey's home, the Rodeo queen Crystal Lee Kenny buys a 568 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: suit to stop bothering fluids from getting onto your body. 569 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: She bought a hairnet, booties, two trash bags bleach, and 570 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: I bought some gloves. According to the investigator, that she 571 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: brought the suit from the hospital and when she saw 572 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: blood everywhere on the walls, all over the floors. There 573 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: was even blood on one year old Lord Kelly's toys. 574 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: You know what, That just makes me sick vincent, That 575 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: makes me sipico. Here's the biggest problem I'm having with this. Nancy, 576 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: she oh three times, she was implicated. Yeah, I was 577 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: gonna do it by a backed out. She's at the 578 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: burn site. She's buying these chemical suits to dispose of 579 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: the body. Now, the only person saying is that she 580 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: didn't kill Kelsey is her. That's her story. But if 581 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: she was brave enough to go through three attempts, what's 582 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: to say she wasn't inside this home when this actually happened, 583 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: and she didn't participate in it. And maybe the prosecutors 584 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: just want Patrick as the bigger fish, so they're going 585 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: with the story. But I don't believe you were so 586 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: brave that, Oh, I'm gonna poison you, I'm gonna beat 587 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: you at the bat, I'm burning your body. I'm here 588 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: with chemical suits and you had nothing to do with 589 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: the Nancy, I'm not buying it. Well, I'm telling you 590 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: you just laid out the entire defense. You laid out 591 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: the defense that the rodeo queen was insanely jealous of 592 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: Kelsey Barrett and did the deed herself. That is going 593 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: to be the defense. You can put money on it. 594 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: Let's see what unfolds in a court of law. Nancy 595 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: Grace Crime Story signing off. Goodbye friend. Nancy Grace here 596 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: from crime online dot Com with breaking crime injustice news. 597 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: Right now, we are going to Mississippi, friends and family 598 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: searching for a Mississippi mom, Danielle white Side Nipper and 599 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: joining me along with Ashley Wilcott, judge lawyer Tony Wade, 600 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: the commander of the Cajun Coast Search and Rescue. Tony, 601 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: you have been searching for Danielle. What's happening, Wellefully, we're 602 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: having troublesome news behind shown the Sheriff's apartment is pretty 603 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: much pulling out of the case and not searching. They're 604 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: women to cooperate with us, didn't want to work with us. 605 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: They're just not doing anything. We were quite disgusted with 606 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: this fact. You know, we have a fifty one year 607 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: old woman that's missing that if somebody, if somebody's daughter, 608 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: somebody's sister, or somebody's mother, I think police to take 609 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: these matters a little bit more serious. Well, I don't 610 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: understand why the Sheriff's office would be pulling out ps everybody. 611 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: Let me give you the tip line. Six zero one 612 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: nine seven four twenty nine hundred repeat six zero one 613 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: nine seven four twenty nine hundred. Still searching for Danielle Whiteside. 614 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: Nipper is the commander of the Cajun Coast Search and 615 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: Rescue Commander Tony Wade. Danielle Whiteside Nipper has faced a 616 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: lot of tough situations. She's a breast cancer survivor, she 617 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: is a recent widow, and now she's missing. Danielle last 618 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: seen on a Thursday at her home in Raymond, Mississippi. 619 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: A friend tells us that her teen daughter Grace saw 620 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: mom around ten thirty a m. That morning, and that 621 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: Grace went back to sleep. They were having a day 622 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: off from school for just a few hours, but when 623 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: she woke up at two thirty, her mother is nowhere 624 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 1: to be seen. Now, since Danielle's husband passed away, Danielle 625 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: and her daughter moved to a nearby home, and Grace 626 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: said she asked their roommates where's mom, and no one 627 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: knew where she was. Her car, keys, wallet, and cell 628 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: phone all still in the home. Then, when evening came 629 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: and Danielle nowhere to be seen, her little girl gets 630 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: scared and reports Mommy missing. I've got such a bad, 631 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: bad feeling. Commander of the Cajun Coach Search and Rescue, 632 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: Tony Waite, what can you tell me? Where have you 633 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: guys been searching? Well, we search areas all around the 634 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: home that she was last seen, you know, but look 635 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: out with police not I wanted to work with us, say, 636 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: and they so hard that we just we can't come 637 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: from the old search areas. We don't know where whether 638 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: they were seen, or whether the cell phone teams were 639 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: or anything. They just they won't release any of that information. 640 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: They just won't. They get nothing but a run around. 641 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: They're not actively searching at all, So we just don't 642 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: know where else to search, where else to go? Oh man, 643 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: There's been an atystic ground search of many properties, including woods, creeks, ponds, 644 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: no evidence so far. They covered an area about three 645 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: square miles. Volunteers all joining together at that time with 646 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: Hines County Sheriff's Department. You know to ask you Woolcott, judge, lawyer, 647 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: anchor you can find her at aske you Wolcott dot 648 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: com and Mom, there is no way this mom just 649 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: leaves her team girl behind and and disappears without her 650 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: cell phone, her purse, her car, her keys, nothing one 651 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent agree with you, Nancy. And I'm gonna say 652 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: what I always say, which is somebody knows something. Somebody 653 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: knows what happened to this woman, and I cannot fathom 654 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: why police would not use all resources to find her. 655 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: Danielle white Side Nipper a beautiful mom of one teen girl. 656 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: Last thing wearing maroon sweatpants, a white tshirt, Nike shoes. 657 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: She's about five five, she weighs about one hundred and 658 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 1: forty pounds. Her hair is tinted dark. She's got brown eyes, 659 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: beautiful smile. Last seen by her daughter, keys, wallet, cell phone, 660 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: and car left behind. That tells me she was either 661 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: out going for a walk or jogging, or was taken 662 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: from the home. What does it tell you, Commander Wade, 663 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things point a band direction here. 664 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: You know understand that there was an argument with a 665 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: roommate that morning. That doesn't feel good about it. I 666 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: don't either, probably involved here and she's missing. It's just 667 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: there's just too many things to point the wrong direction 668 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: in this case. You know, this woman has disappeared under 669 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: very unusual circumstances, according to authorities. We're talking about a 670 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: mom last scene on Ranger Road near Raymond. This is 671 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: a white female five five, brown eyes, about one hundred 672 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: and forty pounds, shoulder length, hair tinted dark last scene 673 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: wearing maroon sweatpants, white tshirt, Nike Tennis shoes. Unusual circumstances. 674 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: Does that mean, Commander Tony Wade the argument with the roommates. 675 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about her. She survived breast cancer. Now 676 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: her husband suddenly passes away, they can't afford the house, 677 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: they move in with roommates, and now she's gone, Tony, 678 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: what do they mean by unusual circumstances? You know, there 679 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: was there was some arguments between her and the roommates 680 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: that that morning, a little money. He'd got an insurance 681 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: check in, you know, and all of a sudden few vanishes. 682 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: Did you say an insurance check? You know? They north happened. Yes, 683 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: he had a roofer car and she had just received 684 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: an interest case. Uh oh, right there. Do we know 685 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: if that check has been cast by anyone? The check 686 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: has been cast? Uh oh, I smell a money motive. 687 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: Las cast a morning that you come and listen. Yeah, okay, 688 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: there you go. Now. I want to see their surveillance 689 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: video at the bank. I want to see it all 690 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: to track her movements. Who cash that check? Who signed 691 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: her name? With me? Commander of the Cajun Co Search 692 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: and Rescue along with Tony Wade. Commander Wade along with 693 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: judge and lawyer anchor Ashley Wilcot at Ashley Wilcott dot com. 694 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: Tip line six zero one nine seven four twenty nine hundred. 695 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: Where is Danielle Nipper