1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Stick turns, fakes, the gifts, sets in the pocket's got 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: time stepping up. 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: Now the pressure comes. 4 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 3: Getting a hick going to go down our Foudin Mohammed 5 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 3: got him not in time, sacked him back. 6 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: At the thirty nine Yard Live. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: It is week one of the regular season, and that 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: means the twenty in the Huddle podcast is back, and 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: I thought the special occasion of week one you have 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 3: to bring in. You know, one of the ringers here 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: from from the podcast is t J Lang always love 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: to have you on. 13 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? 14 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: It's well, it's it's everything obviously up there's some there's 15 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: some question marks with the offensive line obviously, so you're 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: an expert there. So there's a lot of reasons why 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: it makes sense to help on. But number one is 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: your one of. 19 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: My favorite guests. Oh so that's just where it wears 20 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: on until like week. 21 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: Fourteen last year, something changed. Yeah, thanks for having me. 22 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: No, I'm excited about it. And look, let's start with this. 23 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Obviously you did play in Green Bay. They haven't had 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: a Week one opener there for I think it was 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: like four or five years. They've started on the road. 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: I'm just curious they are loyal fans there just as 27 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 3: much as Detroit. What's that environment like Week one at 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: lambeau Field in Green Back? 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, rowdy, you know, especially after what's happened in the last 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: ten days up in Green Bay. Imagine it's going to 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: be a lot of enthusiasm, much like any team. I mean, 32 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: you want to see it's a new year, right, There's 33 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: thirty two teams out there, thirty two fan bases that 34 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: feel like, man, like, this is our year. We got 35 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: a chance to go do it. Green Bay no different, 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: and they are one of those teams that you know, 37 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a contender now, you 38 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: know it's I love starting I always like starting early 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: in the season with the Vision matchups because it's like 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: here we go, you know what I mean, Yeah, we 41 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: can't ease into this. Yeah, and an opportunity for both 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: of these teams really to see where you measure up 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: against the other. I mean, green Bay is getting obviously 44 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: a lot of love after the Micah Parsons trade, and 45 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: know we'll get into Detroit's looking at it saying and 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: we were six and zero in the division last year. 47 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: We've got back to back you know, division championship titles 48 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: is sitting on our mantles. So you know, we know 49 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: it's division is always going to be a battle, but 50 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: these are always games that players talk about all the time. Right, 51 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: it means more means a game and a half means 52 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: two games. Right, we can win our division games. That's 53 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: where we get to your first goal of you know, 54 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: ultimately securing that division. Happens week one. We get to 55 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: see both these teams pretty healthy, which you don't always 56 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: get in those late season division games. And I think 57 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: it's just an opportunity to go out there and see 58 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: where you stack up. Man Like, this is going to 59 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: be a heck of an opportunity for the for the 60 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: Lion Sunday afternoon. 61 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for Green Bay it's you can send a message, 62 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 3: hey we're here, Yeah, we're we're in the division hunt. 63 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: You mentioned the six and zero last year. For Detroit, 64 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: it's hey, we're still top dogs. This division still goes 65 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: through Detroit. So to your point, there's so much on 66 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: the line here for a Week one game with sixteen 67 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: more games still to go, it's a big game Week one, 68 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: it is. Yeah, you mentioned Parsons, let's get into that 69 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: right away. Just what was your initial thought of the 70 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: trade little bit unlike green Bay giving up future assets, 71 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: first round picks to go kind of get a guy. 72 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have Rob damofsky On a little bit later 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: and we talked about it a little bit too, just 74 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: he made the point it's kind of like they're they're 75 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: going for it, right, They're they're all in there. They 76 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: think they're one piece away from from really making a run. 77 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 3: I was just curious your perspective on the deal and 78 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 3: what Micah brings to that defense. 79 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: I was shocked at first, not not because it was 80 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: Green Bay, but because you know, the last couple of years, 81 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: you always hear rumors about you know, Max Crosby, right like, 82 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: you know out there in Vegas, is he happy a 83 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson? You know, Miles Garrett went through his dispute 84 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: where it was very similar, I'm not gonna play for 85 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland anymore. And then you know, here's a bag of cash. Okay, 86 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: you know I feel better, right Like that's kind of 87 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: what this Michael Parsons thing felt like. You know, I 88 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: got the back injury, you know, Okay, here's you know, 89 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: let's play your guy. You don't get rid of premier 90 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: pass rushers. So that's why I was shocked. And then 91 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: with Green Bay, I wasn't so much shocked it was 92 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: them because of everything you said. I mean they even 93 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: before they made the trade, I was viewing them as 94 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: maybe a sleeper team, maybe a team that's not getting 95 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: talked about enough, a team that's young but has still 96 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: has a lot of experience, It still has playoff experience 97 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: and everything really I mean healthy, right, Like Jordan Love 98 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: last year, I think they kind of undersold maybe some 99 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: of the things that he was playing through. I know 100 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: he had that thumb injury that missed a couple of 101 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: weeks of training camp, which you know that that's not 102 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: a great situation. But I think that when you look 103 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: at that Green Bay team in totality, it's like, man 104 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, they're gonna be tough, Like they're gonna 105 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: be a tough out again. Adding Micah Parsons just kind 106 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: of solidified that, like, Okay, maybe that you can't consider 107 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: them a sleeper anymore. Maybe they're not really going to 108 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: be a contender. And you know, I can't imagine that. 109 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: You know, anybody in this building wasn't excited when that happened, 110 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: because you want to play the best teams. You want 111 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: to have the best division. You want everybody looking at 112 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: the NFC North and the Black and Blue that it 113 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: used to be, you know, back in the nineties and 114 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: two thousands, where everybody's just beating up on each other. 115 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: You know, like you love it that ways. And when 116 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: you look at you know, get rid of Kenny Clark, like, 117 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that. You know, that won't hurt a 118 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe on their interior, their defensive line and 119 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: from a leadership perspective that he brought over ten years. 120 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: But you bringing a guy like Micah Parsons, Uh, definitely 121 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: a top three pass rusher in this league. He just 122 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: got an ability to change the game. So you know, 123 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: good good part is, you know, we've got two pretty 124 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: damn good tackles here in a couple of Pro Bowl 125 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: guys with some experience of playing against Michael Parsons. So 126 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: anytime you play a premier guy, all pro type of 127 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: guy for the first time, you're pretty nervous because you're like, 128 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know what to expect. I haven't had 129 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: my chance to put my hands on Hi yet. I 130 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to measure up his speed well 131 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: both these guys have, right and I imagine that like 132 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: always that guy that moves around the line a little bit. 133 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: But I would think that, you know, that would give 134 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: Pena and Taylor a little bit of confidence, knowing that 135 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: they've had raps against him, knowing that they've played a 136 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: couple of football games against him on the road already, 137 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: Dallas Green Bay a little different. You're going from turf 138 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: to grass. But you know that probably gives those guys like, Okay, 139 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: no problem, Like we played great, great pass rushers every week, 140 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, right, Like it's nothing new for tackles in 141 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: the NFL these days. But I think that it's definitely 142 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: a luxury to have those two guys. 143 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: He didn't play in the game last year, the Detroits 144 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: blowout win, but a couple sacks and four quarterback hits. 145 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: I went back and looked in twenty two and twenty 146 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: three when they played against him. So obviously some experience 147 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: there to your point. And that's a nice combo there 148 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: with with Sean Gary now too, seven and a half 149 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: sacks led Green Bay last year, so now you had 150 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: a guy who averages thirteen. That's twenty sacks between those 151 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: two guys on average gives gives them a little something 152 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: something in in their pass. 153 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: Rush for sure, no doubt. And it's you know, the 154 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: Lions are obviously this offensive line will be ready for it. 155 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean they you know, Week one is always tough 156 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: because you get unscouted looks. Yeah, right, you don't see 157 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: a lot during the preseason. That's something that you know, 158 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: it could either be a disadvantage or you could use 159 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: to your advantage. I mean, you know, even talking about 160 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: you know, with with John Morton, what he wants to 161 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: do offensively, is he going to show a lot of 162 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: the things that Ben Johnson did last year? Is he 163 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: going to change a lot of things up and say, man, 164 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: they haven't had the tape to watch these plays on 165 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: scotted looks go both ways and you're gonna have to adjust. 166 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to communicate. But personnel wise, yeah, you're 167 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to know where number one is for the defense. 168 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: If he's out there, we'll see, you know obviously, how 169 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: that that back holds up. Maybe on a pitch count, 170 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: maybe not. Maybe he's full go, but definitely a guy 171 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to notice nowhere he's at every 172 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: single play. 173 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: All right, You brought it up, so let's talk about it. 174 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions offensive line. You know, obviously you had 175 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: the Frank rag Now retirement. There's no replacing Frank Right 176 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: and all appropriateer the top one of the top two 177 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: centers in the league, and in my opinion, but you 178 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: get experienced guy Graham. Grasco started thirty eight games at center. 179 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: You know, it's not like this is his first rodeo 180 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: and he snapped ball to Jered Goff. He's played center 181 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: in Detroit. How big of an impact do you think 182 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: that move in particular is replacing Frank with Graham? 183 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's unfair to compare anybody 184 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: to Frank Right, to one of the best centers this 185 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: game scene in the last you know, five six years. 186 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: So you know that's not a knock when you say, 187 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, you take Frank out put somebody else in there, 188 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: that it's not gonna be as good, you know, but 189 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: maybe it does have potential to be good. We obviously 190 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: know and this isn't a knock against Frank either. We 191 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: know that he played through a lot of injuries and 192 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Frank I don't think was ever really at one hundred 193 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: percent over the last maybe year and a half. Right, Yeah, Graham. 194 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's a veteran guy, but like you said, 195 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: he's got a ton of experience there. And I think 196 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: when they made that switch, when Tate was getting all 197 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the reps in the offseason and to start training camp 198 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: and then they decided to move Graham back, I don't 199 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: think that was, you know, anything negative about either guys. 200 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: I just think that that maybe was their best combination 201 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit more comforting knowing that, you know, 202 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: you Graham does have that veteran experience at playing that position, 203 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: especially with the schedule that they have and the road 204 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: games that and it would talk about Green Bay, but 205 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: the couple of road games you have to do after this, like, 206 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: that's tough for aokie center. It's not easy for a 207 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: rookie guard, but it's not for a rookie center when 208 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: you're out there trying to communicate in some of those environments. 209 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: So I think that that was just probably the right move, 210 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: and I think probably Gave I would imagine Jared probably 211 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: was more comfortable with it as well, having a veteran 212 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: guy up there that he can trust to get you 213 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: in the right offense, make the right identifications, you know, 214 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: read the defense get you whether it's run game, pass game. 215 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: Identifying the right people probably probably makes Jared feel better too, 216 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: So I think solidifies those guys. But certainly, yeah, we 217 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: got to see what that looks like, right, got to 218 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: see what that combination looks like. And we talked about 219 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: the tackles Mahogany. I loved what he did last year. 220 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean he started in a in a playoff game, 221 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: right right, so like and played we'll talk about and 222 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: played really well. And you talk about getting thrown in 223 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: the fire, it's like, well, good luck. Like and he 224 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: went out there and, like you said, played well. So 225 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see him take another step, especially with 226 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: having his first NFL training camp under his belt because 227 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: he was out the first couple months last year. Tate, 228 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean obviously that the they're a guy that they're 229 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: excited about, they're they're high on. If they didn't feel 230 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: like he had the capability to go out there and 231 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: play you know, consistent football and give them some positive value. 232 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, this is a team that you look at 233 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: with a ton of cap space and high app they'd 234 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: go out and get somebody else, right, They didn't do 235 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: that because they feel confident. Now. There's always going to 236 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: be ups and downs with the always with every single 237 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: young player. It does not matter. Do I expect Tate 238 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: to go have a you know, all pro game or like, 239 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, all pro season. No, like, there's gonna be 240 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: up and down. But the good part is, I think 241 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: more so when you're playing on the interior, you can 242 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of manipulate what you want to do with your 243 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: run game, with your pass protections to maybe help a 244 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: guy out, to let him get his feet wet a 245 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: little bit, to say, Okay, Graham, you know we're gonna 246 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: slide you a little bit more to the right this 247 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: week to get some double teams and mahogany man, like, 248 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to step up and you know, handle 249 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: most of one on ones because you've had experience doing it. Right, 250 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Let's let take get his feet wet. Let's let him 251 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: get that real taste of NFL action and then you know, 252 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: see how and then okay, now we can start opening 253 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: things up a little bit more. So there's definitely ways 254 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: where you can help and just get like guys, get 255 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: his feet under him a little bit, especially as young players. 256 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: But expectations haven't changed in that room. I mean you 257 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: look at you know, opening roster from last year. Three 258 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: get three new guys playing three new spots. But the 259 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: expectations have not changed. We know that this offense and 260 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: this team really takes on the identity of those five 261 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: guys up front, and they know every single weeks can 262 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: be a challenge. This week is no different. I'm excited 263 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: to see how, like what that first chapter looks like 264 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: for him, you know what I mean, Like, I don't 265 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: think I'm expecting you know, just like seventy plays of 266 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: kick ass football where everybody's getting bad. It's like there's 267 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: gonna be some okay, you know, I got to work 268 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: on that, but real good opportunity to go out and 269 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: I think calm a lot of people's mind when it 270 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: comes to that offensive line position. 271 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: We'll take you back to two thousand and nine when 272 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: you were coming into this league. 273 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: What's this? 274 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: What's this week like for Tea? 275 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Is it excitement? Is it? Is it nerves? Is it? 276 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: What was that week like for you Long? I mean 277 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: it's like your first start is early in the week. 278 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: I think you're excited. I mean, obviously you try to 279 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: level your emotions. You get better at it, you know, 280 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: the older you get in, the more experience you have. 281 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: But you know, going back, you're like, man, like, is 282 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: it Sunday yet? You know what I mean? And it's 283 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: like Tuesday and it's your off day. But you're like, yeah, okay, 284 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: Like I wanted the red zone plan, I want the 285 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: third down plan, I want the two minute but you 286 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like I just want to get 287 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: this thing going. You really have to, and I know 288 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: it's very cliche. You have to balance your emotions right, 289 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: Like you can't get too high, you can't get too low. 290 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: The week of preparation, you got to trust that what 291 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: you're doing is is the right plan. You got to 292 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: trust your teammates, you know, are helping you and putting 293 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: you in a good spot. You got to trust that 294 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: your coaches are giving you the right game plan and 295 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: giving you the right keys, the right things to look 296 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: at and to look for. So when you get out 297 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: there on Sunday, it's like, hey, boom, like we went 298 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: over this, you know I remember on Wednesday, like stairs 299 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: in the walk through, Okay, I'm good, right, Like those 300 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: mental reps that you take, you got to make sure 301 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: that everything you do during the week of preparation matters 302 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: and that you remember it because when you get out 303 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: there on Sunday, it's very easy to just kind of 304 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: get in that zone where it's like blackout. I just 305 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: want to go kill some Oh then oh I missed 306 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: the linebacker, right, and that was my guy. Oops. Right, 307 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: So you just have to bounce your emotions. And I 308 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, talking with Tate throughout training camp and watching 309 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: him play, I mean, I know it's preseason football there 310 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. The couple series that he gots here, you're like, okay, 311 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: like I see a guy that can control himself a 312 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: little bit, Like he doesn't look like the moment's too 313 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: big where it's you know, I got to go like 314 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: overdo things. I'm excited to see him play though. I mean, 315 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: he's got a ton of talent. He's a big dude. 316 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: He's strong, he's physical. Uh, he's very quick, he's agile. 317 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's great in the run game. We know that, 318 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: you know, they know there's probably some new wrinkles this year, 319 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: but this isn't an offense that you look at and say, oh, 320 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: they just run zone. Oh they just run power. Oh 321 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: they just run this. They have to do everything, and 322 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Tate fits that mold of being able to you know, 323 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: go reach block at three tech, go double team this 324 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: guy up to a linebacker, Go pull out on the edge, 325 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: you know us, use your athleticism, get up the sidewalk 326 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: and go, you know, get a safety twenty yards down 327 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: on the field. Excited to see the planet, damn and 328 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: excited to see you know what he what his first 329 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: chapter looks like as a rookie in this league. 330 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: How much will play next to Pennee help him a ton? 331 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean for both the guards. I mean, you know, 332 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Graham obviously being a tent to your guy and having 333 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: a ton of experience, and then you look at your 334 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: right and it's like, okay, I got Penny Sue the 335 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: man like and then even for Mahogany too, who started 336 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: games last year, but you know, looking at the same thing. Okay, 337 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: I got Graham, I trust him. Oh I got Taylor Decker, Like, Okay, 338 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I trust these guys. Right. Definitely put your mind at 339 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: ease a little bit. And I think that if there 340 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: are moments where you get caught or you miss a play, 341 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: or you miss a check or you miss a call, 342 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: like he's a guy Pena you can look at and 343 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: be like, hey, well like give it to me again, 344 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: and it's bam, Okay, I got it. I'm good at 345 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: thanks because you have you know, you have that veteran 346 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: presence next, So that definitely definitely makes it easier. I 347 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: would say having a having a guy of that that stature, 348 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, two feet to. 349 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: You, right hey, But before we continue one too, I 350 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: want to say you did. 351 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: A great job on the broadcast. I appreciate it. 352 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: Season Yeah, yeah, that was a great little duel there 353 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: is that is that kind of what you see yourself doing. 354 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: Do you want to have a future? 355 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: I've never I've never wanted to get into, you know, 356 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: the TV world. I always wanted to kind of do 357 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: the radio because you know, I get to I get 358 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: to stay home half the season, right like, I get 359 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: to drive down to Ford Field Sunday mornings and I'm 360 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: back for dinner on Sunday nights. The TV stuff, Like 361 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: I kind of got a taste of it and it 362 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: was like, man, like, I think I could do it. Yeah, 363 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: with the schedule and the travel, you definitely could do it. 364 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: You can't pick your own game. Now. If I was like, hey, 365 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: can I just do the Lions home games, like to 366 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: stay home with my kids and my family, but you know, 367 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: it's obviously a big sacrifice you have to make for 368 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: your family. Yeah, maybe down the road, I mean, you know, 369 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: I know we're obviously still a long time a year 370 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: away from you know, next preseason. But if that's something 371 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: that I can continue to, you know, maybe build raps 372 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: at and see if there's a passion there, like'll certainly 373 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: will be something I explored. But I really enjoyed doing 374 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: the radio, so right now, yeah, all right, before. 375 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: Where we finish, I want I want to go to 376 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: the other side of the football because I know you 377 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: as an offensive lineman, you watch the defensive line. You 378 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: watch the defense too, and just from the outside looking 379 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: in every day at practice, I was really impressed with 380 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: Calvin Sheppard and what this defense looked like. I mean, 381 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: if you were to give the win to the offense 382 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: defense every day in training camp, I would probably say 383 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: there are more defensive wins than offensive wins route camp. 384 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: That's pretty natural, I think for most teams around the league. Yeah, 385 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: and it's just I don't think that you know scheme 386 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to disparge the defensive coordinators or players. 387 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: But the scheme that goes into defense isn't as you know, 388 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: advanced as I would say offensively. So I think that offensively, 389 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: especially in training camp preseason, there's a lot more thinking 390 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: that goes on and that can slow you down a 391 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: little bit. The defense gets to really dictate, you know, 392 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: what they want to do, and uh, brilliant. I kind 393 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: of remember even last year, like going back to Week one, 394 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: not a lot of high scoring games. You know, kind 395 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: of felt like defenses were ahead and you really don't 396 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of film like I know that Green 397 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: like we mentioned Green Bay's defense, probably having an unscouted 398 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: looks that you're gonna have to communicate and prepare for. 399 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Kelvin Sheppard has the same advantage. I mean, he's you know, 400 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna have different wrinkles than Aaron Glen did. You 401 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: can't just look and say, okay, what they do on 402 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: third down last year, like Calvin's going to have his 403 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: own little stamp that he wants to put on things 404 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: as well. So I think defenses are just generally, you know, 405 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: they get to early in the season just play a 406 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: lot faster, I would say, right, and just like take 407 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: a little bit off. You know, just go beat a 408 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: guy in front of you, go win. You're one on one. 409 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: It becomes more physical than it does mental. Mental really 410 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: starts to you know, for defense, get down the line 411 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: when now you got film on. Now you have to adjust. 412 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: Now you've got to the defense knows what you're doing. Okay, 413 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: Now I've got to how do I outsmart them in 414 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: that little cat and mouse game. Then you have to 415 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: start thinking a little bit more my my perspective, my 416 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: kind of opinion on it. So I'm not trying to 417 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: defend the offense when you say ahead of them, But 418 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty common thing across the league. 419 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: And I'd tell you the one thing like that's non 420 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: negotiable when you play for Kevin Sheppard. And this was 421 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: really no different than Aaron Glenn, like, you're you better 422 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: play violent, you better play physical, you better play fast, 423 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: you better get to the football right, you better like 424 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: show some passion and enthusiasm out on that field. Yeah, 425 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: or else you can't play for this defense. And they've 426 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: got the guys that that do that, And especially when 427 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: you look at the the front four, just the violence 428 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: that that they can play with and what do you think. 429 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: I Look, I think Tyleek's got a ton of potential. 430 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: I do, and we only got to see him for 431 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: you know, what, was it, maybe twelve fifteen snaps against 432 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta like a month ago. Yeah, you know, I think 433 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: that Tyleek missed a lot of the offseason, right this guy, Remember, 434 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: like we talked about it before the show, this guy 435 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: played sixteen games last year. Yeah, I mean that's a 436 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: full NFL season, right almost. I know they're seventeen now, 437 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: but like, that's that's a lot to be able to. Okay, 438 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: now I'm going right into the combine. Now, I'm going 439 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: right into the draft. Now, I'm going right into ot is. Now, 440 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: I'm going right into the Like, you don't really get 441 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: a time off. So I'm not trying to say it's 442 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: a neg, but I think ty Leak is like probably 443 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: glad that the season's finally here and like I get 444 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: to finally get into a rhythm, you know what I mean. 445 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: I'm not like you're still going to be in that 446 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 1: grind phase. Don't get me wrong, but it's not like 447 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: it is, you know, in the offseason in training camp 448 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: when you're a young player and there's just so much 449 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: coming at you. I think the game's going to probably 450 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: start slowing down for him a little bit. But I 451 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: love the potential that he has, especially when it comes 452 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: to stop in the run. I think that's going to 453 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: be maybe his bread and butter early on, much like 454 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: it was with a Lee McNeil when he was a 455 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: young player. Was like, dude, go out there, eat up blocks, 456 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: free up our linebackers. Don't get pushed, you know, three 457 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: yards off the ball. Just go hold your ground and 458 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: get off blocks and make some plays. And he's shown 459 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: the ability to do that, and I think that that's 460 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: what this defense, especially in the run game, really revolves around. 461 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: Its you have a linebacker as a defensive coordinator, a 462 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: lot of the thing is going to be, hey, like, 463 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: our linebackers are here to make the tackles. You guys 464 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: go eat up the blocks and let the linebackers clean 465 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: it up. Let him go finish it up and entire 466 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: League's definitely a guy that fits that mold. So I'm 467 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: excited to see what he can bring. I'm excited to 468 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: see what DJ reader taking that next step. It sounds 469 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: like Coach said, man like just kind of a sneaky dominant. 470 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: The camp play, yeah, like just a sneaky like yeah yeah, 471 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: dominant training camp out of a veteran guy like Roy Lopez, 472 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: another guy that excited to watch what he can bring. 473 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, if those guys all stay 474 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: healthy and they can play the style of football that 475 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: Kelvin wantson to, they're gonna be really really tough to 476 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: run the football on. You're gonna have to find really 477 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: unique and creative ways as an offensive coordinator to find 478 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: some holes on that defense. And especially like we already mentioned, 479 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, with the linebacker group they have, and with 480 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: the safeties that they have that aren't afraid to come 481 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: get their nose dirty. And you know, same with the 482 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Meek Robertson. I mean, everybody on that defense, they're not 483 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: afraid to tackle. 484 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: It's a pretty requisit. 485 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: They almost take it like personal when you try to 486 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: run the football on it, you know what I mean, 487 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 1: take it like a slap in the base, like you're 488 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna try to run the book. So but I love 489 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: that attitude. I love the I love the uh, you know, 490 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: kind of the characteristics that Kelvin Shepard wants to build 491 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: on that defense. 492 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: And they've got a good test this week with Josh 493 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 3: Jacobs as a top five rushing attack from Green Bay 494 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: last year. And just to finish up your point on 495 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: ty Leak too, is he can impact the game without 496 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: eating up the stat sheet, you know, Oh yeah, And 497 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: that I think will be the one thing that you 498 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: watch with ty Leek playing on the other side of 499 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, you know, forcing disruption of plays. Maybe 500 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: you don't make the tackle, but you make the back 501 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: go the other way because you're on the other side 502 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 3: of the line of scrimmage. You take up those that 503 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: double team to allow the linebacker or someone else on 504 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: that defensive line to free up. So it might not 505 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: look crazy on the stat sheet, but he can impact 506 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: the game otherwise. 507 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: And that's just being you know, a role player. Like 508 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: nobody's expecting you to come out and go get two 509 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: sacks and ten quarterback hits and you know, four PFLs, 510 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: Like you're not expected to do that as a young player, 511 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, first round draft pick, undrafted gat like, go 512 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: out there, know your role in this defense, and then 513 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: we can start throwing things more things at you when 514 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: you can go prove that you can be that consistent player. 515 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I mean it doesn't. You know, 516 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people they look at the statue, Oh yeah, 517 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: zero tackle, zero quarterback hits like yeah, you know, like 518 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: he didn't have he didn't do anything. But then you 519 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: watch the film and you're like, man, like the guy 520 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: wrecked the game without even having a tackle. Like that's demoralizing, right. 521 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: So I think he's definitely got that ability to go 522 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: out there and you know, play that role and you know, 523 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: dude do whatever he can to help this defense start 524 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: out with the banguns Sunday. I'm excited. 525 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: It's Week one, it's lambeau Field, it's intra division. 526 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: Beautiful weather, beautiful weather. 527 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's exciting. That's football's back, no doubt, 528 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: no got we got football rolling. I appreciate you taking 529 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: the time as always, very informative, one of my favorite 530 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: guys to have on. Appreciate you always. 531 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: Thanks thanks for having me. 532 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the twenty M Huddle podcast. 533 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: I am very happy to welcome in one of my 534 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 3: favorite NFL beat reporters in the entirely, Rob Damowski does 535 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: a great job covering the Green Bay Packers for ESPN. Rob, 536 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: thanks for joining me so not much really, happening in 537 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: Green Bay over the last week. 538 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: Huh oh dam, I'm just all quiet, just getting ready 539 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: for the season. They didn't trade for a all pro 540 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 4: pass rusher, they didn't pay him one hundred and eighty 541 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 4: eight million dollars. They didn't give up two first round 542 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 4: picks and one of their Pro Bowl defensive tackle. Oh wait, 543 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: they actually did to get to Mike H. Park to 544 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: get Micah Parsons here. 545 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, just your first initial thoughts of the trade. 546 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: Obviously you lose a player in Kenny Clark who here 547 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 3: in Detroit. He was a guy that these coaches raved about, 548 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: that you had to prepare for, that was in the 549 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: center of that defense. 550 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: Obviously a Pro Bowl player. 551 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: But you pick up a guy on Micah Parsons that 552 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 3: you can now pair with Rashaan Gary, guy who had 553 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 3: fifty two and a half saxes first four years and 554 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: league's average thirteen a year. Just what does it mean 555 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: for Green Bay's defense? 556 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of things. Let's say Kenny Kenny Clark's 557 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 4: first great player, but look, he was about to turn 558 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: thirty years old, didn't have his best year last year. 559 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: You know, the Packers like to be young. They're probably 560 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: going to be the youngest or one of the youngest 561 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 4: teams in the league again this year, so that part 562 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: of it made sense. The part that was so unpackers 563 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: like was giving up two first round picks, Like they don't. 564 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: This is a draft and develop organization. The last time 565 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: that they traded a first round pick for a player 566 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 4: was when they traded one for Brett Favro in nineteen 567 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: ninety two, so it does not happen very often, and 568 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 4: then they traded two of them. But look, the biggest 569 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 4: weakness in my opinion, and I think in a lot 570 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: of people's opinions coming out of last season, was the 571 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 4: pass rush, and they really didn't do anything significant in 572 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: free agency in that regard. They didn't draft a pass 573 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 4: rusher until Day three, and the only real significant change 574 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 4: they made was that they changed defensive line coaches and 575 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 4: brought in DeMarcus Covington, who had been with the Patriots 576 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 4: for quite a while, to try to get guys like 577 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 4: Rashan Gary and Lucas van Ness to be more productive. 578 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: But that was basically it. So going into the season, 579 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: it was still a at least a perceived weakness on 580 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: this team, and they sure waited until the very last minute, 581 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 4: but I guess better late than ever, and certainly to 582 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: get a player of Parsons caliber. You mentioned the numbers. 583 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 4: The last time the Packers had a one player with 584 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: a double digit sack season was the year before Michael 585 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: Parsons came into the NFL. So Rason Garis had some 586 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 4: nice production, but I think he's had nine nine and 587 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 4: a half a couple of years. But the last double 588 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 4: digit sack guy I believe was Zadarius Smith in twenty twenty. 589 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: What is a fan base thought about this edition because 590 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: from the outside looking him from a guy from Detroit, 591 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: I look at this and I think, Wow, the Packers 592 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: think they're one player away. You know, obviously they've got 593 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: some of the pieces on offense, really steady offensive line, 594 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: some of the pieces on defense. Was this a move 595 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 3: that was made kind of like, Hey, I think we're 596 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: one piece of way where we can challenge Detroit for 597 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 3: the NFC North and we can we can get to 598 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. 599 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 4: The thing is General manager Brian Uncuns has said in 600 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: the past, but we've talked about trade deadline stuff that 601 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 4: he didn't He's like, we're never one you're never one 602 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 4: player away. Well, he said it again after this trade, 603 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: and it's one of his go to lines. But it 604 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: sure does seem like they thought this was the final 605 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 4: or one of the final pieces to get them there 606 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: in terms of like popularity. The draft was here, right, 607 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: they drafted Matthew Golden in the first round, and he 608 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 4: walked across that stage here and it was chaos, Like 609 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: people went crazy because, as you know, the Packers haven't 610 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: drafted a receiver in the first round here since two 611 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 4: thousand and two, like the longest and any team has 612 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: gone without a first round receiver, and the crowd went 613 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: crazy for that. If they had set up that same 614 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: draft stage in the parking lot of Labou Field on 615 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 4: Friday when Micah Parsons arrived and walked him across, I 616 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 4: think it would be just as kick crazy of a reaction, 617 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 4: if not more so. I mean, people here are I 618 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: don't think they could be more excited than they are 619 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 4: about those two moves. 620 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: Especially will those fans get to see Michael Parsons on 621 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: the field when they kicked that ball off at four 622 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 3: to twenty five Eastern time on Sunday. 623 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 5: It's a great question. 624 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: Obviously, you know he didn't participate in any of training 625 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 4: camp or really any of the off season stuff because 626 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: of either the contract and or a back injury one 627 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 4: or both of those. You know, people have questioned whether 628 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 4: he has a back injury. Of his agent, you know, 629 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 4: said this week that he does have a back injury, 630 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: and then he received started receiving treatment for it when 631 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 4: he was with the Cowboys. I can tell you that 632 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: the plan is for him to play on Sunday, but 633 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 4: the question is how much it'll depend on how he 634 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 4: feels by the end of the week. But the start 635 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: of his time here, he was able to do some 636 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 4: individual drills and from what talking to a bunch of 637 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: the players, that was expected to ramp up as the 638 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: week went on. So, you know, unless there's a setback, 639 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 4: I would expect him to play at least some. 640 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 5: I mean, he's not going to play sixty or. 641 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 4: Seventy plays, but it wouldn't surprise me if he played 642 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 4: fifteen twenty twenty five snaps on Sunday. 643 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: All right, Rob, enough of that default stuff. 644 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: Let's get do the fun stuff, right, the skill positions 645 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 3: on offense and the thing everybody wants to talk about, right, 646 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: Jordan Love dealt with a thumb injury. 647 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: I believe it was missed a lot of training. 648 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: Gamp. 649 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: How is he for Week one and any concerns there 650 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: at all. 651 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 4: Well, it's his left thumb, and as everyone knows, he's 652 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: a right handed quarterback. 653 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 5: So I mean it's you know, if you're. 654 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 4: Gonna if you're gonna hurt a finger on any of 655 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: your hands, it's better to be the non throwing hand 656 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: right now, it does, you know, he he was handing 657 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: off a little weird like balls that he would normally 658 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: hand off like this way he's with his left hand. 659 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 4: He sort of had to turn sideways and use his 660 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 4: right hand, and they were sort of deciding if that's 661 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: the way he was gonna have to do it uh 662 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 4: in the game, or or if they were just trying 663 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 4: to protect it from any contact and practice, he did 664 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: say he's gonna have to have it braced up, which 665 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: is gonna limit some of the mobility. But he was 666 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 4: able to take snaps, you know, from the center, was 667 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: able to catch shotgun snaps from what we've seen, with 668 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: no issues. So I wouldn't think there'd be anything from 669 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: an injury standpoint. Now you mentioned he you know, he 670 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: missed so much time in camp. That's that's part of 671 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 4: it that might be a concern. But the second part 672 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: of that is most of their receivers have been hurt 673 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: or missed so much time during camp. Jane Reid barely 674 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: practiced during training camp, D'antavian Wicks barely practiced. Christian Watson, 675 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 4: of course, is out will will miss at least the 676 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: first four weeks and probably a little more while he's 677 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: recovering from the ACL injury. So it basically left Romeo 678 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: Dobbs as the only real returning experience receiver that was 679 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: there every day. And I mentioned Matthew Golden, the first 680 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: round pick. He has been everything that they could have 681 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: wanted so far. I mean, Tim, I don't think he 682 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: dropped a pass in any practice that we saw the 683 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 4: entire summer. He runs routes smoothly, he catches it clean, 684 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 4: he gets open. You know, obviously he's a rookie, he's 685 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: never played in an NFL regular season game before, but 686 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: from what we've seen, he looks to be the real deal. 687 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: So there is that. But again, he has not had 688 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: a ton of reps with Jordan Love either, So I 689 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: think the question with the offense and the quarterback is 690 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: not so much the injury, but just the time away 691 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: this summer, you. 692 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: Know, And to your point, you looked at Green Bay 693 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: and the receiver corps. I think seven and a half 694 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: percent drop percentage that was number one in the NFL 695 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: last year. I think twenty five drops were third overall. 696 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: That was an issue. 697 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: So they went and got Matthew Golden. 698 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: And from what you're saying, he's your version of Jamison 699 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: Williams and how they can use him. And we know 700 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: here in Detroit just what that means for an offense 701 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: and what it means for everybody else. But I'm curious 702 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: about save On Williams too. He's a guy that I liked, 703 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 3: your third round draft pick, A big body guy. How 704 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: has he been and how of Matthew and Savean kind 705 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: of worked themselves into the mix. 706 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: So Savan Williams is another guy who's missed a ton 707 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 4: of time. He's when he first got here in the 708 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 4: after the draft, was going through the offseason stuff, he 709 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: was wearing a red jersey, which here means no contact 710 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 4: because he had his shoulder injury. They were easing him 711 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 4: back in from that, and then early in camp had 712 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: a hamstring injury. So has missed a ton of time. 713 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: He is back and has been back here for the 714 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 4: last little bit practicing. But again, a guy who hasn't 715 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 4: had a lot of work, hasn't had a lot of reps. 716 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 4: But I can tell you from just a physical standpoint, 717 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: like he's the biggest, longest, lankiest, you know, just big 718 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: bodied looking receiver that they have on this roster. But 719 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 4: he's also athletics, shifty and all that. It's not like 720 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: he's big and slow. He is big and fast, and 721 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 4: it would not surprise me if they try to find 722 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: ways to use him in you know, jet sweep and 723 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: end around, you know, even out of the backfield stuff. 724 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: But again, the problem there is that he just doesn't 725 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 4: have a lot of reps under. 726 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 5: His belt right now. 727 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: So he could be a guy who if he does 728 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 4: play and is able to go, it's it's again it's 729 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 4: a small package of fifteen twenty plays or something like that. 730 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: That'll be one of my favorite matchups to watch on 731 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: Sunday is just how those new weapons and especially after 732 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: what you described, you know, see him from Golden and 733 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: how he fits in this Detroit secondary is probably the 734 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: best secondary that I've seen in my sixteen years covering 735 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: the team going into a season just from a talent 736 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: and depth standpoint, so that should be a fun matchup. Rob. 737 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: I'm curious on this those smart people in Las Vegas 738 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: when once you guys made the trade for Micah Parsons, 739 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Green Bay clicked ahead of Detroit 740 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: as the favorite for you know, the NFC North title. 741 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: I'm curious, how are people responding in Green Bay to 742 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: kind of that? 743 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, and you know, Tim, what the expectations 744 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 4: are around here. I mean, they call this place title town. 745 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 4: And while most cities, probably a lot of fan bases 746 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: would be fine and be happy with the trajectory that 747 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: the Packers are on. You know, they made the quarterback 748 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 4: change obviously to Jordan Love. The first year, they win 749 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: nine games and win a playoff game. Last year they 750 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: win eleven games. But I'll tell you what, people are 751 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: impatient around here. And I think that you know, even 752 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 4: before or the Mica Pyson's trade, I mean, they were 753 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 4: from at least from the fans from the outside, there 754 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 4: were a lot of there was a lot of pressure 755 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 4: on this team. You know, they've they've sort of done 756 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: step A, but they really haven't taken step B. Or 757 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 4: c and that's you know, getting to an NFC championship 758 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: game or get into a super Bowl. And to me, like, 759 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 4: you know, there's some people who call this entitled town 760 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 4: because the fans think they're entitled to, uh, you know, 761 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: twelve thirteen wins every year and playing for a chance 762 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 4: to go to the super Bowl. But that is the 763 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 4: reality here and that's the expectation. So I do think 764 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 4: this is a bit of a it's not a make 765 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: or break year, but it's definitely an important year, uh 766 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 4: for this organization and to see where they're going as 767 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 4: a football team. 768 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: All Right, I want to end with this one, and 769 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: I like to end this one quite a bit. 770 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: But Rob, I'm curiously being the first week of the season, 771 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: there's a lot of new faces, a lot of guys 772 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: change change spots. Is there a guy that maybe is 773 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: an onlines fans radar that that maybe jumped out to 774 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: you a little bit in camp, or somebody that can 775 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: play have an impact Sunday that maybe isn't isn't kind 776 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: of one of those guys you go in game planning. 777 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: For, will he give you a two real quick one 778 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 4: on each side of the ball. Luke Muskraves is a 779 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 4: third year tight end, has been hurt a ton and 780 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 4: you guys have seen Tucker Kraft make a bunch of plays. Well, 781 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 4: they think they have both those guys healthy. 782 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 5: Now. 783 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 4: Musgrave is more athletic than Kraft, to be honest with you, 784 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: but they haven't been able to show it. So don't 785 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 4: be surprised if you see eighty eight Luke Muskrave getting 786 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 4: a lot of opportunities. And then on the other side 787 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 4: of the ball. He's new to the other side of 788 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 4: the ball, but he's not new to fans. Bou Melton 789 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: was a receiver here in the last two years. He 790 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 4: made the transition to cornerback and they didn't do it 791 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 4: until the last week of the offseason program. So the 792 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 4: June Mini caamp moved into cornerback. He not only made 793 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 4: this team, but right now is probably either number three 794 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 4: or four on the cornerback depth chart. You knew him 795 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 4: as number eighty as a receiver, You're gonna see him 796 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 4: as number sixteen as a cornerback. And keep in mind 797 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 4: his brother Max Melt a cornerback in this league for 798 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, so there's cornerback in the family. But he 799 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 4: had never played it before in college or the NFL, 800 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: and he's going into one his third or fourth NFL season. 801 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: I love those stories. 802 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 3: I love the fact that it's Week one, that we're 803 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 3: talking about real football and we've got a monster NFC 804 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: North matchup Week one. One of these teams is going 805 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,959 Speaker 3: to be able to send a message to the other 806 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: into really the rest of the NFC North, whether it's hey, 807 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: we're still on top Detroit or Green Bay saying hey 808 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: look at us two, we've arrived. It should be a 809 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: fun one. 810 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: Rob. 811 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for taking the time. You are absolutely 812 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 3: one of the best in the business in my book, 813 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. 814 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 5: No problem at all. It's my pleasure him. 815 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the twentyment of Huddle podcast The Man 816 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 3: Next to Me. No, it needs no introduction. In the 817 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 3: Left Tackle Extraordinar Taylor Decker. Ten years Is that crazy 818 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: to think about ten years? 819 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, because you know, I still feel young, at least 820 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 6: when I get going after my warm up. But to 821 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 6: think it's like it's almost been a third of my 822 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 6: life I've been in the NFL. That's that's crazy. And 823 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 6: ten years is always a big goal of mine. So 824 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 6: I've been super fortunate. You know, you know, I've worked hard, 825 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 6: but I've also been fortunate and lucky in other instances. 826 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: Max out that pension, right, Yeah, yeah, big dude, I 827 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: gotta we got to talk about it to your kids. 828 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: You. 829 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: I love it in training camp when the families and 830 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: the kids come. Your daughter is getting big and your 831 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 3: your son eight months old standing up? Now, just how 832 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: has having kids, having a family? How's that grounded you 833 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: a little bit? 834 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: How's it? 835 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: How's it changed you? 836 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 6: It's a big perspective shift, because when you go home, 837 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 6: you like, if you had a bad day, it doesn't matter, 838 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 6: and it's not because it doesn't matter, but you want 839 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 6: to go be there and you want to be present 840 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 6: with those kids. And you know, when your daughter's shown 841 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 6: you rocks that the groundhog left her in the front 842 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 6: yard because she left cauliflower out for him, Like, how 843 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 6: can you not be excited about that? 844 00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Right? 845 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 6: It's been you know, a good like stressfully for me 846 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 6: to be able to go there and be able to 847 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 6: kind of turn off the football player and and just 848 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 6: be dad. And like, my wife's the same way. She's like, 849 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 6: you know, whenever you're done, she's like, don't feel any 850 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 6: pressure for me like, you got to keep playing. I 851 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 6: just want you to be happy and do what you 852 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 6: want to do. So and then you get the little 853 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 6: the little babies and you get to see them growing, 854 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 6: and it's definitely perspective shift. 855 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 3: Does it change you as a player a little bit? 856 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's made me want to like go home, 857 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 6: Like like I'm gonna do my work when I need 858 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 6: to here, but when it's time to go home, I'm 859 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 6: gonna go home. We're not going to stay here and 860 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 6: just to stay here and just do extra stuff, just 861 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 6: to do extra stuff to prioritizing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 862 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 6: it's it's allowed me to prioritize and then also prioritize 863 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 6: my family because when I can pour into them, they 864 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 6: can pour back into me and I can give more 865 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 6: as a player. 866 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: You know, we've been so used to the offensive line 867 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: kind of being that that steady force, right and no 868 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 3: question marks. We know they're gonna be you know, that 869 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 3: unit one of the best units on the team. Put 870 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 3: three new starters on the offensive line, there's a few 871 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: question marks going into the season. Obviously, Graham is a 872 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 3: veteran guy. He's played thirty eight you know, snap or 873 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: thirty eight games at center, but just curious how you've 874 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 3: seen it come together with three new starters, and and 875 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: and just kind of what your guys approach is heading 876 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: in the season. 877 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 6: Well, I think the big thing is when you play 878 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 6: next to guys for a certain amount of time, you 879 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 6: get that nonverbal communication that we're just kind of used to. 880 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 6: And I think when you start out next to a 881 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 6: new guy, that nonverbal has to start out as verbal 882 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 6: until you get a bead for you know, what's this 883 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 6: guy going to do? How is he going to play 884 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 6: this block? Does he understand the concept of this play 885 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 6: or the technique of this defensive tackle, whatever it may be, 886 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 6: and then it turns into nonverbal. You know, for me, Christian, 887 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 6: I got to play next to him last year and 888 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 6: then he was obviously on the team last year, so 889 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 6: I was I was excited to play next to him 890 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 6: because you know, I see he's got he's got some ability. 891 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 6: But I think the big thing leons communication because those 892 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 6: guys have the talent and the physical ability, but we 893 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 6: need to function as a group. 894 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 3: And we saw him get a couple of starts and 895 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 3: he played terrific when he got the opportunity. Where have 896 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 3: you seen him maybe make his biggest jump from year 897 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 3: one to year two, because you remember, yeah, being back, 898 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 3: you know in the day, that's usually where a player 899 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 3: takes their biggest leap is your one to year two. 900 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: Where's Christian maybe made that jump? 901 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 6: In your opinion, I would say his footwork, like, let's 902 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 6: slow down your footwork and let's get it clean. Because 903 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 6: he he is a physical presence out there. He has 904 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 6: confident in his ability out there. That's huge if you 905 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 6: want your guards to be physical players who want to 906 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 6: go out there and hit people. 907 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: And he has that. 908 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 6: He's got every bit of that, which makes me excited 909 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 6: to play next to him because that benefits me. Yeah, 910 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 6: and you know, I even told Hank last year, you know, 911 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 6: I would love to play next to him, you know, 912 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 6: And I only have to play one game next to him, 913 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 6: but I saw, like some like I saw what he 914 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 6: wants to be as a player, and I know he 915 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 6: will only get better from there. So I was excited 916 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 6: to be able to play, to be able to start camping, 917 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 6: be able to play next to him. Not that I 918 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 6: was practicing early camp, but I knew that that's what 919 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 6: the plan was. And then it was up to him 920 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 6: to you know, earn the spot, and he did that, 921 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 6: so I'm excited to play next to him. 922 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 3: From my perspective, that line really started to come together 923 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 3: once you came back and that you were out, you know, 924 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 3: the first week dealing you know, with the shoulder rehab 925 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 3: from from the off season surgery. But it really started 926 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 3: to gel and you guys got a good month of 927 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 3: work in training camp. You feel like that unit's had 928 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 3: a good spot right now. Absolutely week one. 929 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And I you know, not to you know, 930 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 6: give myself too much credit, but I played in this offense. 931 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 6: I've played with these guys. I've played with Graham, I've 932 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 6: played with Pine, I've played with Jared. There's a level 933 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 6: of familiarity there. And then there was some guys kind 934 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 6: of in and out of the in the lineup at 935 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 6: that left tackle spot. And then I think it's helpful 936 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 6: for our young guys too to be able to play 937 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 6: in between veteran players. So Christian gets to play in between, 938 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 6: and Take gets to play in between guys who have 939 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 6: played a lot of ball and me, Graham and Pe 940 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 6: have played a lot together. Yeah, so I think it's 941 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 6: you know, just a level of familiarity with everybody and 942 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 6: then yeah, I think it kind of started to take off. 943 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 6: But I don't think that's all credit to me. I 944 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 6: think we were just growing as a unit as well. 945 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you thought of Tate the first time 946 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 3: we saw him? I think we got a peak of 947 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 3: him in Atlanta, had that kind of pancake. 948 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: Block and you see, they called him a dirt. 949 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 3: Bag, you know, coming into into the league, and you 950 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 3: smile because you love that about an offensive lineman, and 951 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 3: you talked about you love that about a guard. The 952 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: physical physicality, what have you seen in the rook and 953 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 3: is he going to kind of just step right in 954 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 3: and is he a fit in that room? 955 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 5: Oh? 956 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely. I think the big thing about him, similar 957 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 6: to Christian is he wants to play physical and he 958 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 6: will play physical, and he is confident out there. Like 959 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 6: similar to Christian, I feel like their mindset's pretty similar 960 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 6: out there where you kind of got to go out 961 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 6: there and do the dirty work. Hey, we're going to 962 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 6: ask you to pull and kick out this defensive end 963 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 6: ten times, and they want to do it. So as 964 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 6: far as his demeanor, like he may have been nervous 965 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 6: at times, or he may have been you know, mentally 966 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 6: fatigue or something like that, but you would never know 967 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 6: it based on how he carries himself, very professional about 968 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 6: how he goes up about his business and as far 969 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 6: as like assignments and picking that up. For a lot 970 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 6: of rookies that can be an issue because we're a 971 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 6: complicated offense. He's been just fine. 972 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: Maybe one of the more underrated moves of the offseason. 973 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 3: With Ben obviously going to Chicago and Aaron going to 974 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 3: New York, you kind of thought maybe there'd be some 975 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 3: staff members leaving and stuff. 976 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 2: Just how big was it that. 977 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: That Hank returned to you guys, especially with kind of 978 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: some of the new newness you guys got going on 979 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 3: that line. But to me, that was one of the 980 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: more underrated moves this offseason was retaining him. He's one 981 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 3: of the best offensive line coaches in the league. What 982 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 3: does he mean to that room and how big was 983 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 3: it to get him back. 984 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 6: I mean, you cannot overstate how important Hank is, not 985 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 6: only for his prowess and his knowledge as an offensive 986 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 6: line coach, but how well he manages the guys in 987 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 6: our room. Being a guy that played a long time 988 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 6: in the NFL, the way he manages us and manages 989 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 6: motivating us like. He's phenomenal, and I don't I don't 990 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 6: want to play for another offensive line coach because I've 991 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 6: been with him. 992 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: For a long time. 993 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and we have a level of trust and we 994 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 6: have a good level a good sense of communication with 995 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 6: one another. I mean, he's he's brilliant as an offensive 996 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 6: line coach. That's why it's really good if you're an 997 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 6: interior alignment to be in this offense. You get to 998 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 6: work with Hank, You're gonna learn a lot and he's 999 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 6: gonna put a lot on your plate. But it's gonna 1000 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 6: be good for you down the road. And then just 1001 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 6: me just being able to work with him again. Again, 1002 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 6: I'm so used to him, I don't want to work 1003 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 6: with anybody else. 1004 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, what have you seen from Hutch and Marcus? 1005 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 3: You know, going against those guys for for a month. 1006 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 3: We obviously didn't get to see Marcus a lot last 1007 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 3: year because of injury. But that's the twin Towers over there. 1008 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 3: And look, you and Penney are are one of the 1009 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 3: best tackle duos in the league. What's the potential for 1010 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 3: Aiden and Marcus on the other side in terms of 1011 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,479 Speaker 3: an edge duel. 1012 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 6: I think they could be one of the best in 1013 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 6: the NFL as well. Really, obviously, you know everybody was 1014 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 6: question Mark is aiden going to be healthy? He was 1015 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 6: healthy and ot as I had. I did some of 1016 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 6: the OTA practices. I I remember the first practice like, oh, 1017 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 6: he's just fine. And I remember I think I saw 1018 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 6: Shep had a media day where he was talking about 1019 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 6: I see a better player. 1020 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: I do too. Really, I mean, he he just. 1021 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 6: Turned it up a notch and it's really unbelievable. You 1022 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 6: know what he was able to do with his recovery 1023 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 6: to not only get back to where he was but 1024 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 6: also improve. And then with Marcus, I'm of the opinion 1025 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 6: that when healthy, he is the best athlete on the defense. Really, 1026 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 6: I think he is a phenomenal athlete. You look at 1027 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 6: some of his measurables and his numbers in the weight 1028 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 6: room and running. I mean, he's off the charts. He 1029 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 6: just he's just had bad luck with his health, right, 1030 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 6: And I think the way he plays the game, he 1031 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 6: plays the game hard and he is super physical, so 1032 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 6: he beats up his body. So as long as we 1033 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 6: can keep him, keep him going, I think he's going 1034 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 6: to be super valuable because I get a lot more 1035 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 6: reps in him than Aiden, right, and he's got a 1036 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 6: ton of ability. I just hope he's able. 1037 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: To show it. 1038 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 3: By the way, that was a buck guy given a 1039 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 3: kudos to a wolverine. 1040 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: Maybe real quick. 1041 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 3: Just to finish up, I asked you about the defense 1042 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 3: as a whole, because from the outside looking in every 1043 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 3: day at training camp, it looked to me like a 1044 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 3: defense that's really improved. Obviously they've got to stay healthy, 1045 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 3: but really they've got talent at all three levels Taylor, 1046 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 3: and the secondary is maybe the best secondary that they've 1047 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 3: had since I've been covering the team in two thousand 1048 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 3: and nine. So just your your thoughts of the defense, 1049 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 3: what you saw over training camp, and what they could 1050 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 3: potentially be. 1051 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 6: It feels to me, I don't know all their calls, 1052 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 6: it feels to me that they're more aggressive than they've 1053 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 6: ever been. And I think that's because I'm sure Shep 1054 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 6: believes I got the guys who can handle this. Yeah, 1055 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 6: I have guys who can hold up in man coverage 1056 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 6: if I need them too. I have guys that can 1057 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 6: win one on ones or beat double teams in the 1058 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 6: pastors if I need them to. Like you said, there's 1059 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 6: guys that ever level who are arguably the top at 1060 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 6: their position. So they seem very aggressive and and they're 1061 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 6: they're going on the attack. So it's it's been a 1062 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 6: challenge and there were some I mean, there were definitely 1063 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 6: some growing pains for us as an offense early on 1064 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 6: in camp. Once we were able to iron those out, 1065 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 6: it was good for us. 1066 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 3: How do you like Giants offense? 1067 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 5: Well? 1068 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 6: For me and as part especially as part of as 1069 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 6: far as the run games concerned, Hanks, the run game coordinators, 1070 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 6: So not a lot of that has changed for me. 1071 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 6: And then past game is like, it's your pass blocking, 1072 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 6: you're past blocking. So I know there's things that from 1073 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 6: from from Johnny's background that he's gonna like and he's 1074 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 6: gonna want to bring. Yeah, I know that there's concepts 1075 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 6: that you know, I'm not gonna like, Oh this is 1076 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 6: the concept. There's concepts that he likes, and there's philosophies 1077 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 6: that he has as far as how we're going to 1078 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 6: operate as an offense. But I think bringing him in 1079 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 6: was the idea was we're not gonna scrap everything. Yeah, 1080 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 6: we're gonna let him out his flavor and he's gonna 1081 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 6: do his thing as the OC but we also know 1082 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 6: what we've been good at here, So where's gonna be 1083 00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 6: some continuity as well? 1084 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 3: And I thought he said it good when we first 1085 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 3: talked to him. He said, look, this was the number 1086 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 3: one offensive league last year. I just don't need to 1087 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 3: screw it up. 1088 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna have some things that I like 1089 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: to do. 1090 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 3: A lot of the pre snap motions and getting guys 1091 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: in space and creating one on one matchups. 1092 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 2: You know, that's the Gruden era, that's the West Coast offense. 1093 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 2: That's what he does. 1094 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 3: But I think he was smart to say, look, we've 1095 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: got a lot of talent, let's just do what we've 1096 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 3: been doing that successful. You're going to add your wrinkles. 1097 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 3: And I don't think that the normal fan we'll see 1098 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 3: a whole lot of differences in the I. 1099 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 6: Don't think they will. No, I don't think they will 1100 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 6: is And a lot of it's it's the nuance. Maybe 1101 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 6: it's like route detail, route depth, yeah, something like that. 1102 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 6: Maybe it's man beaters versus zone beaters. Maybe it's different 1103 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 6: checks against zero that he likes. You know, there's gonna 1104 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 6: be a lot that people aren't They're not going. 1105 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: To reice it. 1106 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 3: You know, all right, let's finish with this one. Division 1107 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 3: matchups are big, but how big is this one? 1108 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: Week one? 1109 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 3: Not only just to set the tone for the season, 1110 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 3: set a statement to the to the division, to the 1111 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 3: rest of the NFC, but look, according to Vegas, these 1112 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 3: are the two teams that are favor to win the 1113 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 3: NFC North. How big of a test is this week one? 1114 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 3: How important is this game Week one? You still got 1115 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 3: sixteen after it, so it's not make or break. But 1116 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 3: does it down there to you guys? Does it seem 1117 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 3: like a bigger Week one than than normal? 1118 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 6: Bigger than normal? You know, I'm not going to, like, 1119 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 6: you know, blow it up to be bigger than it is. 1120 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a football game, but yeah, is a 1121 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 6: divisional game, and those divisional games are very important, Yeah, 1122 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 6: as far as you know later in the season and 1123 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 6: postseasons concerned. And this is a team that we know, 1124 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 6: they're super talented, they're super young, and they got playmakers, 1125 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 6: so it's gonna be fun and playing there, like, we 1126 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 6: get to play in the field and that's a good 1127 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 6: home field advantage. You know, we've had some success there 1128 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 6: over the years, But that doesn't make it any easier 1129 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 6: to go in there and try to get a win, 1130 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 6: especially week one, so you know it's it's it's gonna 1131 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 6: be a great matchup and I expected to be ager game. 1132 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 3: What does Micah bring to that defense? 1133 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing. Obviously he's a superstar, superstar 1134 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 6: pass rusher. But now they have two guys on the edge. 1135 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 6: Obviously getting rid of Kenny Clark, like you know, you 1136 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 6: don't have as big of a presence in the interior, 1137 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 6: but there are also some young guys on the interior. 1138 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 6: But when you have two guys on the edge, like 1139 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 6: a lot of teams just have one, and it's like 1140 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 6: you can game plan for that. But then they got 1141 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 6: Rashaun Gary on the other side who's been a pro bowler, 1142 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 6: So that's you want to stay ahead of the sticks basically, yeah, 1143 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 6: and you want to go first down, second down, first 1144 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 6: down if you can, and then when they're out there, 1145 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 6: you have a planform. 1146 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, it should be fun. 1147 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 3: Football is back Green Bay on a Sunday lambeau Field 1148 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 3: Week one. There doesn't really get better than that. Taylor, 1149 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,760 Speaker 3: thanks for taking the time, good luck this season. 1150 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 6: Thank you