Speaker 1: Paper Ghosts is a production of I Heart Radio. Among
Speaker 1: the cold cases, twenty year old Susan Lrosa banished on
Speaker 1: a trip to a story in Rockville in She was
Speaker 1: supposed to go there to get the babies in formula
Speaker 1: and to call my mom, who pay phone, and she
Speaker 1: never came. Hard. The disappearance of Susan LaRosa has never
Speaker 1: officially been associated with the other missing girls. Her face
Speaker 1: or her case was never included on those missing person
Speaker 1: flyers posted around town. To law enforcement, there was no connection,
Speaker 1: maybe because she was more than a decade older than
Speaker 1: the youngest of the girls. Still, as an investigator, I
Speaker 1: can't ignore facts, one of which is that within a
Speaker 1: seven year span, Susan LaRosa became the fourth female to
Speaker 1: go missing, not just in the same town, but within
Speaker 1: a few miles of one another, and in three of
Speaker 1: the cases merely blocks away. I've asked the Vernon p
Speaker 1: D if they ever considered these cases the work of
Speaker 1: a serial killer. When I hear of disappearances so similar
Speaker 1: occurring in the same general location, it's hard to ignore
Speaker 1: the potential. But as I began speaking with detectives in
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, the year I started my investigation. They
Speaker 1: said they had looked at every possibility but discounted it.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed serial killers throughout my career, written seven books
Speaker 1: about them, and the one common admission they all have
Speaker 1: shared is that there are no coincidences when children go
Speaker 1: missing within this close proximity, and that you need to
Speaker 1: look not only for victim profile similarities, but location, time
Speaker 1: of day, and opportunity. One serial killer who I've interviewed
Speaker 1: for the past state years insists that when the obvious
Speaker 1: presents itself, believe it because most serial abduction cases are
Speaker 1: not the work of a diabolical genius or criminal mastermind.
Speaker 1: They are committed by a disorganized, deviant, hyper focused on
Speaker 1: one goal who will make mistakes. As he's told me,
Speaker 1: find those common mistakes and you find your killer. You
Speaker 1: can hear him here in an interview I conducted years ago,
Speaker 1: as he puts the mindset of a serial killer into perspective.
Speaker 1: His name Keith Hunter, Jesperson, the happy Face killer. There's
Speaker 1: a wonderment of whether or not I want to kill
Speaker 1: or not. I was, I was kind of I'm kind
Speaker 1: of wired, maybe a little different than most. Like you know,
Speaker 1: most pure killers are not criminals. You understand this right,
Speaker 1: explain whereas a serial killer is not necessary a criminal
Speaker 1: at all, he's just killer and others I'm not. I
Speaker 1: won't go out of my way to rob someone. I
Speaker 1: won't go out, I won't do I won't home invade.
Speaker 1: I won't do this, of course, p K K. Dad.
Speaker 1: But he didn't go in there to rob. He went
Speaker 1: in to kill. Our motive is actually just to kill.
Speaker 1: Previously on Paper Ghosts, she was with a group of
Speaker 1: young men and her friend who was the same age
Speaker 1: as her, and they went joy riding. There is drinking involved,
Speaker 1: and they decided to throw pumpkins at the window and
Speaker 1: we're pulled over and they took Lisa to the state
Speaker 1: police barracks. He came over to my house. She um
Speaker 1: she wanted to leave my mom and dad and no,
Speaker 1: saying that she was very sorry and and you know,
Speaker 1: embarrassed that you know, we got in trouble. And at
Speaker 1: that point she decided, you know, she was gonna leave
Speaker 1: and try and hitchhike home and never made it home.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget it. She came to my house
Speaker 1: and a flirt and she said, I wish it was you.
Speaker 1: I wish it was a stay. My name is and
Speaker 1: William Phelps. This is paper ghosts. The connection between Susan
Speaker 1: LaRosa and one of the other missing girls became apparent
Speaker 1: to me when I was speaking to Maria Scrow, who
Speaker 1: you heard in the last episode. Maria was Lisa White's
Speaker 1: best friend and the last person to see Lisa alive
Speaker 1: minutes before she presumably hitchhiked home alone. Maria told me
Speaker 1: she used to babysit for the LaRosa family. Think about
Speaker 1: that for a moment. Lisa White's best friend baby set
Speaker 1: for a girl who would herself go missing a year
Speaker 1: after Lisa. I had never heard this before, and I
Speaker 1: know law enforcement had no clue. Not one detective had
Speaker 1: ever asked the question, and to be fair, why would they.
Speaker 1: But knowing what I now know, it has to be
Speaker 1: considered cold case work is as much about inclusion as
Speaker 1: it is about exclusion. Susan was a young mom, just
Speaker 1: twenty years old and already she had three young children.
Speaker 1: She had dark black hair cut just above her shoulders
Speaker 1: Peter Pan style. Susan was petite, four ft eight inches tall,
Speaker 1: nine pounds, green eyes. That's the extent of what you'd
Speaker 1: know about Susan. Rossa if you read about her case
Speaker 1: in the newspapers, But after years of looking into her
Speaker 1: story and reviewing documents never before seen by the public,
Speaker 1: I knew better than to take anything at face value.
Speaker 1: You gotta understand our family was a very, uh fractured family.
Speaker 1: There wasn't much love or attention. That's and Prentice one
Speaker 1: of Susan Leross's four sisters and was the second oldest,
Speaker 1: just one year younger than Susan. My mother only had
Speaker 1: attention our time for Sue. So was her child, and
Speaker 1: the other children really didn't exist. So she was a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble. Sue was into drugs. Sue had abortion,
Speaker 1: Sue had overdoses, she had she she would run off
Speaker 1: with this guy, that guy she was having sex with
Speaker 1: my uncle's she. I mean, it was it was a hellhouse.
Speaker 1: And then Sue got married to Robert and she moved out,
Speaker 1: and my mo seems to be happy. At that point,
Speaker 1: she thought, Wow, somebody took herross night hands and he's
Speaker 1: going to make everything wonderful. Robert is Bob LaRosa. Susan
Speaker 1: was eighteen when she moved out of her family's home
Speaker 1: and married Bob. Throughout my interviews, and research, I've developed
Speaker 1: two varying versions of how they met. One person close
Speaker 1: to Bob told me he met Susan while she was
Speaker 1: in a psychiatric hospital, as he was there visiting someone else.
Speaker 1: That same as lots of public reports and other information
Speaker 1: I've dug up in Susan's case is false. Susan and
Speaker 1: Bob lived less than a mile from each other on
Speaker 1: Crystal Lake. There can be no doubt they hooked up
Speaker 1: because they were neighbors, which is the version everyone of
Speaker 1: Susan's immediate family members agrees with. Ever since Susan's disappearance
Speaker 1: in nine, her family has kept out of the a spotlight.
Speaker 1: I've spoken to many of them over the years about
Speaker 1: when they'd feel ready to talk about what happened to Susan,
Speaker 1: and they believe it's now or never forgot about me
Speaker 1: and my sister and Terry Shanks's Susan Leros's youngest sister.
Speaker 1: What kind of guy is Bob to your sister? Babolo
Speaker 1: Rosa was a very um, quiet kind of guy. Their
Speaker 1: dynamic was kind of odd, like she uh wasn't the
Speaker 1: best housekeeper, wasn't the best cook? She uh? I guess
Speaker 1: one time baked cake and it fell apart, so she
Speaker 1: scotch taped it together and thought it would be okay.
Speaker 1: But you know whatever, she was just a free spirit
Speaker 1: kind of gal. Would you say he was a good
Speaker 1: husband tour, Yes, I do. I wish he would have
Speaker 1: been better in that he would have been stronger and
Speaker 1: crushed her when it came to the kids. As far
Speaker 1: as her discipline, he was never home. He was always
Speaker 1: a single sprat medaling with him. He didn't have a
Speaker 1: real job. He and I used to drive around the
Speaker 1: Lake and Stafford area and look for scrat medal and
Speaker 1: then we go to the junkyard and sell it so
Speaker 1: he could put food on the table. Susan and Bob
Speaker 1: had two sons, Maurice who goes by Moe and Robert
Speaker 1: Robbie Jr. And a daughter, Stacy, the oldest. Each child
Speaker 1: is nine months apart. But there was something about Susan's
Speaker 1: middle child, Terry says that turns Susan off, that scared her.
Speaker 1: Susan did not like the middle child, Robbie, and for
Speaker 1: whatever reason treated him the most poorly out of the three.
Speaker 1: My sister Sue was not a good mother. She was
Speaker 1: She's a horrible mother. Actually, she was an abusive mother.
Speaker 1: She didn't know how to love, She didn't know how
Speaker 1: to be a mom. These kids were not what she wanted.
Speaker 1: They never were what she wanted. And was Bob involved
Speaker 1: in drugs to my knowledge? No, to my knowledge he
Speaker 1: was not. Would you say she loved Bob in her way? Yes?
Speaker 1: I I she had an odd way of Susan was
Speaker 1: a brilliant young woman. She was brilliant, but unfortunately she
Speaker 1: got involved with heroin. Yeah, that was a demon she
Speaker 1: had before she met Robert. So Robert was sort of
Speaker 1: like someone that was helping save her. On the day
Speaker 1: Susan LaRosa went missing June, her husband Bob told police
Speaker 1: Susan left their Rockville, Connecticut apartment in the early evening
Speaker 1: to go to the nearby drug store, something she did
Speaker 1: every day, and never returned home. I wondered what Terry
Speaker 1: recalled from those early days after her sister vanished, feelings, thoughts, memories.
Speaker 1: To me, the questions we ask are as important as
Speaker 1: the answers we get. A month to the day that
Speaker 1: she went missing was her twenty one birthday, and she
Speaker 1: always told my mom, on my twenty one birthday, I'm
Speaker 1: coming by. The use I'm gonna be streaking. You watch,
Speaker 1: you wait for me, You wait for me, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come running by, you know, streaking, being totally buck naked.
Speaker 1: That's what that was her plan. So my mom the
Speaker 1: whole day sat there, probably smoked three packs of cigarettes waiting.
Speaker 1: This kills me never time. But she never came. She
Speaker 1: never came, And that's what that's when everything fell apart.
Speaker 1: My mother could not she did not have a function.
Speaker 1: She did not know what to do, She didn't know
Speaker 1: what should too. She didn't know how to walk, she
Speaker 1: didn't how to talk, she didn't know how to be.
Speaker 1: Susan was her first born, Susan at the same time. Uh,
Speaker 1: Susan and my mum went through a lot together. They
Speaker 1: were very close. That are very close. Bund To get
Speaker 1: a better understanding, I need to take a look at
Speaker 1: what happened on the night Susan Rose had disappeared. There
Speaker 1: are facts I can report with absolute certainty, facts made
Speaker 1: public here for the first time in forty five years,
Speaker 1: which begin to not only answer a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: but lead me to cluse in several of the other
Speaker 1: missing girl cases. For example, I know from law enforcement
Speaker 1: documents written the day after Susan went missing that Bob
Speaker 1: Larossa told police he and Susan argued because Susan struck
Speaker 1: one of the kids. Again, here's Susan's sister, Terry Shanks. Uh.
Speaker 1: She went off on a little one and she backhanded him,
Speaker 1: split his head open. Kid was bleeding profusely. So you're
Speaker 1: talking about the nights she went missing, that that she hit.
Speaker 1: She did hit, Yes, she did hit him. In a
Speaker 1: police report I've obtained, Bob LaRosa claims Susan hit their
Speaker 1: middle child, Robert, who was only eighteen months old at
Speaker 1: the time. The injury caused Robert to bleed. The family
Speaker 1: has always believed it was a wound to the boy's head,
Speaker 1: but police reports confirmed it was his bottom lower lip
Speaker 1: and that the cut was not bad at all. This
Speaker 1: all happened on the day Susan disappeared. There's no mention
Speaker 1: of a head wound. According to Bob, Susan then grabbed
Speaker 1: a ten dollar bill and a quarter and left the apartment.
Speaker 1: Bob said Susan left their apartment at approximately six thirty
Speaker 1: pm to go to the drug store to call her
Speaker 1: mother and pick up baby formula. There was only one
Speaker 1: drug store nearby, Arthur's Drugs. Susan was there every day,
Speaker 1: same time, using the pay phone, buying cigarettes and baby items.
Speaker 1: Maria Scrow, the l Rosa babysitter and Lisa White's best friend,
Speaker 1: confirmed this detail for me, that Susan would call her
Speaker 1: mother every day from a payphone at Arthur's Drugs, just
Speaker 1: a few short blocks west of the Larossa's apartment. When
Speaker 1: Susan failed to return home, Bob called relatives with no results.
Speaker 1: At twelve thirty nine pm the now day, eighteen hours later,
Speaker 1: Bob la Rossa called the Vernon p D to report
Speaker 1: Susan was missing. He said his wife did not come home,
Speaker 1: but he did not want to file a missing person
Speaker 1: report yet. It was not until later that same day,
Speaker 1: near dark, when Bob decided to file one. The question
Speaker 1: is why wait almost twenty four hours later before filing
Speaker 1: a report? Going on? What's going on? How are you?
Speaker 1: How long you've been How long you've been made your crimes? No,
Speaker 1: it's been a toll about six years now investigations. Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Bill Meyer has been with the Vernon Police and now
Speaker 1: heads made your crimes since two thousand two. He stands
Speaker 1: six ft or so and has that familiar buzz cut
Speaker 1: you'd expect to see on a cop. Bill is one
Speaker 1: of the most practical investigators I know in the Tritown region.
Speaker 1: He is unafraid to say when cops have made mistakes
Speaker 1: or they go above and beyond, which is something I
Speaker 1: greatly appreciate. That kind of honesty and self evaluation is
Speaker 1: imperative when reinvestigating cold cases. I've known Bill for a
Speaker 1: long time and have an immense amount of respect for
Speaker 1: the guy. He stopped by my office one morning as
Speaker 1: I was immersed in the cases. We stood in my
Speaker 1: garage talking catching up. He explained a few things to
Speaker 1: me off the record, putting a new perspective on the
Speaker 1: notion that what you read and here online about cold
Speaker 1: cases is likely fifty or more bullshit. You really have
Speaker 1: to see actual documents and photos to truly understand what
Speaker 1: you're working with, and in these cases, those resources, including
Speaker 1: interviews with witnesses and family and even suspects, is really
Speaker 1: all we have to go on. What's the worst investigation
Speaker 1: you've been involved in Inverna Off the top of your head,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's definitely different ways to categorize worst
Speaker 1: the ones that keep me up at night. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of the a lot of the child cases,
Speaker 1: especially with young children. Is there a lot of sexual
Speaker 1: exploitation going on still several months. If we go back
Speaker 1: to the sixties and seventies, women families didn't report that
Speaker 1: stuff right now. It was a different time. And I
Speaker 1: think too, I think they were scared that a police
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe them. Uh, certainly their parents wouldn't believe them, right.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people have told me that I've
Speaker 1: interviewed in all these cases have said, you know, we
Speaker 1: were told what happens in this house stays in this house.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, in the eighties, I mean, domestic violence
Speaker 1: really came of age. Tracy Thurman case out in Torring,
Speaker 1: tim was kind of one of the turning points in
Speaker 1: Connecticut and across the country. The Tracy Thurman case was
Speaker 1: a high profile watershed moment in the country with regards
Speaker 1: to how domestic violence was viewed. In May three, Tracy
Speaker 1: Thurman called the Torrington, Connecticut Police department and reported that
Speaker 1: her strange husband had beaten her and was now threatening
Speaker 1: the killer. The Torrington police told Tracy to come back
Speaker 1: in three weeks when the officer handling domestic cases returned
Speaker 1: from vacation. Two weeks later, she called again. This time
Speaker 1: one officer arrived and twenty one year old Tracy lay
Speaker 1: critically wounded from multiple stab wounds, bloodied in her front
Speaker 1: yard as her husband stood over her with a knife.
Speaker 1: The husband was not arrested. He even kicked Tracy in
Speaker 1: the head in front of the officer. Was not until
Speaker 1: her husband tried to assault her as she lay on
Speaker 1: a stretcher and was being placed inside an ambulance that
Speaker 1: he was finally put in handcuffs. Tracy sued the town.
Speaker 1: There was a book and movie made about the case,
Speaker 1: and Tracy became the face of domestic violence reform. Bill continues,
Speaker 1: explaining it from a law enforcement perspective thirty forty years ago,
Speaker 1: in the reality, honestly sickening, police used to handle domestic
Speaker 1: violence and just for the warning, you know, and and
Speaker 1: they would tell husbands, you know, control your wife, or
Speaker 1: I'll go back inside. Don't call us. Now, completely different procedures,
Speaker 1: and when mandatory arrests and mandatory refer all the services,
Speaker 1: and our focus is really on stopping the cycle of
Speaker 1: domestic violence. But it wasn't just men abuse of women.
Speaker 1: Subject rarely talked about then, was women abusing men or
Speaker 1: wives abusing their husbands. Susan didn't limit her abuse to
Speaker 1: just her children. I've learned from her sister and that
Speaker 1: Bob was subject to her violence as well. I saw
Speaker 1: her crack them over the head with a cast iron
Speaker 1: frying pan where he needed stitches, and he didn't do
Speaker 1: a thing about it because it just wasn't in him
Speaker 1: to do that, And he put up with a lot.
Speaker 1: So we know violence was common in LaRosa home, most
Speaker 1: definitely from Susan. According to a police report I've obtained
Speaker 1: within the year leading up to her disappearance, Susan had
Speaker 1: actually stabbed Bob during a heated argument and abused her children.
Speaker 1: So if abusers could get away with beating and stabbing
Speaker 1: their spouses, think about what else they got away with
Speaker 1: inside the home. It was a gruesome discovery, kind of
Speaker 1: the last thing loggers widening an interstate here in Burning,
Speaker 1: Connecticut would have ever thought they'd come upon. Unlike the
Speaker 1: other missing girl cases I've been investigating, Susan Larosa's story
Speaker 1: actually had tangible evidence. On May nineteen nine, about three
Speaker 1: years after she went missing, construction workers widening Interstate eight
Speaker 1: six in Vernon Rockville discovered what was left of Susan's
Speaker 1: body in a wooded area off an old logging road.
Speaker 1: This was about three point six miles away from the
Speaker 1: LaRosa Apartment today, as it was back then, the area
Speaker 1: is dense woods and very secluded, the kind of place
Speaker 1: where kids in the seventies and eighties held keg parties
Speaker 1: and bonfires. I can say, from my experience as an
Speaker 1: investigator and someone who has lived in the town most
Speaker 1: of my life, who ever dumped Susan le Ross's body
Speaker 1: out there knew that area very well. That's not where
Speaker 1: you're gonna dump a body if you're not in a hurry.
Speaker 1: You know, if if Susan fell victim to a serial killer,
Speaker 1: I I don't think that's where they would have founded her.
Speaker 1: Retired detective John Collins was the lieutenant in charge of
Speaker 1: major crimes for the Vernon Police Department back in two
Speaker 1: thousand two. In two thousand four, his department made a
Speaker 1: concerted effort to reopen Susan Leros's case. There is arguably
Speaker 1: no one else who knows more about Susan's murder than
Speaker 1: John Collins. Susan was found fully clothed, her pants fly
Speaker 1: was unbuttoned and her zipper down. She had no other
Speaker 1: injuries besides a fatal fracture to her skull. She only
Speaker 1: had two dimes in a nickel that's twenty five cents
Speaker 1: in her pocket. Remember, Bob Larossa told police Susan took
Speaker 1: ten dollars and a quarter when she left the house.
Speaker 1: He made a point several times, durned several interviews over
Speaker 1: the years to say a quarter. Why would Susan have
Speaker 1: then two dimes in a nickel on her well? A
Speaker 1: pay phone call in Connecticut in cost a dime was
Speaker 1: Bob suggesting that his wife had a quarter because finding
Speaker 1: two dimes in a nickel on her meant she must
Speaker 1: have reached the drug store after leaving their home and
Speaker 1: exchanged the quarter to make her daily call to her mother.
Speaker 1: Much different from the other missing young girls I've been investigating.
Speaker 1: Law enforcement had leads to go on with regard to
Speaker 1: Susan's disappearance, mainly a crime scene, albeit secondary because it
Speaker 1: was clear to the corner and detectives that Susan was
Speaker 1: not murdered at the location her remains were und They
Speaker 1: also had a huge bread crumb to follow. The last
Speaker 1: person to see Susan alive before she went missing, her husband,
Speaker 1: Bob LaRosa. Even though uh, Bob looked like a prime suspect,
Speaker 1: you know, we we still we went about it with
Speaker 1: an open mind, and the information that we got didn't
Speaker 1: really point us in any other directions. Weeks after Susan's
Speaker 1: body was discovered, Bob LaRosa was taken into police custody
Speaker 1: and questioned for two hours. At the time, law enforcement
Speaker 1: publicly stated Bob was not a suspect and foul play
Speaker 1: was not a path they were pursuing. It was a ploy,
Speaker 1: you know, to make him feel as though he was
Speaker 1: helping the investigation, and he was not a person of interest.
Speaker 1: But in reality, there were no other suspects besides Bob.
Speaker 1: B done the police report, which has not been made
Speaker 1: public until now, Bob told police he believed Susan was
Speaker 1: not messing around with other guys, but to everyone in
Speaker 1: Susan's family at the time, and later, when talking publicly
Speaker 1: to the Harvard Current newspaper, Bob starkly contradicted himself, saying, quote,
Speaker 1: I was under the impression that she took off with
Speaker 1: another guy. She was always flirting with other guys end quote.
Speaker 1: They had a very tumultuous relationship. There was cheating on
Speaker 1: both sides. There was uh indications of domestic violence, domestic issues,
Speaker 1: and as you know, when a woman goes missing and
Speaker 1: when a woman turns up dead, if you just blindly
Speaker 1: went and arrested the husband, you have a good batting average.
Speaker 1: Family members have told me that Susan's emotional mental state
Speaker 1: was stable, in her physical condition good on the day
Speaker 1: she disappeared, But Bob would routinely chastise his wife's mental
Speaker 1: state to her family. He consistently told one story to
Speaker 1: police in a different story to family and friends, which
Speaker 1: in the eyes of law enforcement, made him a prime suspect.
Speaker 1: The truth is inherent, infallible, It does not change. At
Speaker 1: one point during that interview, a detective, in what I
Speaker 1: think is a brilliant Columbu like move, casually explained to
Speaker 1: Bob that if he had, you know, accidentally killed his wife,
Speaker 1: it would be considered quote negligent homicide. Bob's response to that,
Speaker 1: how much time will I get? An innocent person doesn't
Speaker 1: ask that question A hundred times out of a hundred times,
Speaker 1: an innocent person does not ask that question. There was
Speaker 1: never any official record of Bob being violent with Susan,
Speaker 1: But look, I'm far from naive. I've written extensively about
Speaker 1: domestic violence cases, many of which have ended in murder
Speaker 1: the way it has always been explained to me by
Speaker 1: experts as this. In se of murder cases, the victim
Speaker 1: knows the murderer. According to the Centers for Disease Control,
Speaker 1: over half of the killings of women in America are
Speaker 1: related to intimate partner violence, with the vast majority of
Speaker 1: the victims dying at the hands of a current or
Speaker 1: former romantic partner. Staggering statistics. In other words, when a
Speaker 1: wife is murdered, you would hit the bull's eye just
Speaker 1: about every time if every dart you tossed was aimed
Speaker 1: at the husband. I had asked Susan's youngest sister, Terry,
Speaker 1: what she believed happened that night between Susan and Bob,
Speaker 1: the night Susan hit her middle child, split the inside
Speaker 1: of his lip, and supposedly left the apartment on her
Speaker 1: own to go to the drug store. I think that
Speaker 1: what happened was eventually, um, he had it. I think
Speaker 1: one night he got home from work and should happen.
Speaker 1: So the theory the family has is that either Okay,
Speaker 1: he went off on her because he couldn't take it
Speaker 1: anymore and he was trying to protect his kid. So
Speaker 1: he either took a piece of pipe that he always
Speaker 1: had in the house because he always collected it and
Speaker 1: knocked her with it, or he just knocked her down
Speaker 1: and she smashed her head against the tub. Terry then
Speaker 1: described what else the family has always believed, because she
Speaker 1: did die of a fractured skull. I pointed to my
Speaker 1: head and asked where exactly was in the back of
Speaker 1: the head, back of the head, back of the head,
Speaker 1: because I've heard now front of the head, and now
Speaker 1: I hear back definitely back there. Yes, I didn't mention
Speaker 1: this during the interview, but I've seen the crime scene
Speaker 1: photos which include close ups of susan skull. She had
Speaker 1: no injuries to the back of her head. The injury
Speaker 1: that killed Susan Larrossa, according to her autopsy report, was
Speaker 1: to the front of her head, just above her forehead
Speaker 1: on the right side. Susan LaRosa stared at her killer.
Speaker 1: She was struck with a fatal blow to her head.
Speaker 1: So you think Bob killed your sister. Do you think
Speaker 1: he acted alone? In the next step of that, no,
Speaker 1: I do not. In the next episode of Paper Ghosts,
Speaker 1: I have night tears. I see my mom. She's changing
Speaker 1: my one to changing table. She turned around. She sat
Speaker 1: my brother in the face, right on the nose, and
Speaker 1: it bled, it bled, It was leading. Did your dad
Speaker 1: ever have the station wagon? Um? Yeah, um we owned
Speaker 1: the station wagon the gentlemen and that was there that
Speaker 1: showed up. He has on a red and black checkered
Speaker 1: um flannel shirt and he smells even now to this
Speaker 1: day at I can't smell that smell without like freezing.
Speaker 1: Paper Ghosts is written and executive produced by me and
Speaker 1: William Phelps, with help from producer Christine Everett and sound
Speaker 1: editing by Pete Cardi from back Room Audio. A special
Speaker 1: thanks to Abou Safar and will Pearson from My Heart Radio.
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