1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that like for the students to 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: listen to an army of normal folks is so that 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: they can see that they can really do what we're 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: talking about. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Like it's not just some idea that they have that will. 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Never come true, but that they can see that real people, 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: normal people can really make these things happen. 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: Welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm Bill Courtney. 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father, 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: I'm an entrepreneur, and I've been a football coach. And 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: somehow that last part, well, they made a movie about it, 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: and that movie is called Undefeated. Guys, I believe our 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: country's problems are never going to be solved by a 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: bunch of fancy talking people on seeing in in fox 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: wear nice clothes, using language nobody ever uses, but rather 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: by an army of normal folks. That's us, guys, just 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: you and me deciding, Hey, you know what, maybe I 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: can help. Doctor Ronda Smith is a past guest who's 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: assigned a podcast to over four hundred of her students, 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: and today we're going to meet some of them. I 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: can't wait for you to hear the passion of this 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: rising generation right after these brief messages from our general sponsors. 23 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: Last year, we did a episode with doctor Ronda Smith, 24 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: who is gleefully joining us. Hey, Ronda, how are you. 25 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm good? 26 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: How are you? 27 00:01:54,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: I'm great. I've been on the road probably seventeen in 28 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: the last twenty days, and I'm really glad to be 29 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: home and looking forward to this chat. We did an 30 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: episode with Ronda, doctor Smith on her life story, including 31 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: her family being chased out of Mexico because her father 32 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 3: didn't like a kid leaning his bike on her car. 33 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Let's see, I remember the story Ronda, Ronda's Ronda's difficulty 34 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: with past relationships with her ex husband's struggle with drug addiction, 35 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: and how she overcame that abuse, which led to her 36 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: escaping that situation with a daughter and ultimately choosing a 37 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: career of social work, which led to her being a 38 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: professor now at the University of Southern Mississippi. What's coolest 39 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 3: not coolest? There's a lot of cool things about RONDEVU. 40 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: For our perspective, one of the coolest things about Ronda 41 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: is she is assigned listening to an army of normal 42 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: votes to over four hundred of her students. Her poor 43 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: unsuspecting students at the University of Southern Mississippi, which we're 44 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: really honored by that our podcast has struck her enough 45 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: that she has chosen to utilize it as part of 46 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: her text in many of her classes. So that's a 47 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: little bit about Ronda. But today's interesting because now we're 48 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: going to meet several of her students from some of 49 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: her classes last semester, and we're going to talk about 50 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: how they and their own right are an army of 51 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: normal folks and what they've learned and hopefully the inspiration 52 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: they've gotten from the show and the things that they 53 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: want to do possibly in their lives as a result 54 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: of some of the work they've done with Rondon and 55 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: hopefully some of what they've learned from an army and 56 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: normal self. So, Ronda, what is this class and what 57 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: is it about? And why I are you signing a 58 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: podcast as part of the sullabus. 59 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Well, several of the students that are here today I've 60 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: taught a couple of times, and so they may have 61 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: had this assignment more than once. I taught a couple 62 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: of y'all in undergrad isn't that right? 63 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: Yep? 64 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: And then I had them again in graduate school, and 65 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: so I think the first class that maybe they listened 66 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: to the Army of normal folks was in social policy, 67 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: where we talked about policy making and making changes on 68 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: a bigger and a bigger on a bigger level. And 69 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: then this the most recent class that I had them 70 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: in is social Entrepreneurship, and it's where they got to 71 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: work on an actual business plan project. And the Army 72 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: of normal folks, that's what we hear a lot about, 73 00:04:54,839 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: is people actually taking social projects and making making it happen, right, 74 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that one of the 75 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: reasons that like for the students to listen to an 76 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Army of normal folks is so that they can see 77 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: that they can really do what we're talking about, Like 78 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: it's not just some idea that they have that will 79 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: never come true, but that they can see that real people, 80 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: normal people can really make these things happen. And so 81 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons that I like them to 82 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: listen to at least one of the episodes of an 83 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: Army of normal folks, say that they can see that 84 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: it's attainable, that it's possible. 85 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 3: What are the reasons I love here? What you say, 86 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: what you're saying now is candidly there's a vast ocean 87 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: oftentimes between academia and reality. So much of what we 88 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: learn in school, while it's applicable and important and part 89 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 3: of our development, much of you know, Randa, not to 90 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: be not. I don't want to be uh. I don't 91 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: even know what the word is. I don't want to 92 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 3: come off ugly. But there is an old adage those 93 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: who don't teach, and in business people often say those 94 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: who don't make it happen in teaching because and I 95 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: think that's a tongue in cheek way of saying that 96 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: oftentimes what's taught and the textbooks and the prevailing thought 97 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: that is running around an academia isn't always necessarily applicable 98 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: in the real world. But it seems like at least 99 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: in social entrepreneurship, you're really working hard to bridge that gap. 100 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, many of us that are teaching in the Social 101 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Work Arena we have done and we're teaching so that 102 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: we can pass that knowledge on to the students that 103 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: are coming through the program now, because we do know 104 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: what's out there, and we do know, you know, what 105 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: has to happen to keep these kids. 106 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: Going and motivated and you. 107 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: Know, we want to keep keep. 108 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: The momentum going. 109 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: And so that's one of the reasons that I got 110 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: into teaching, was because I do know what it takes 111 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: to you know, help the people out there street level. 112 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: We've got to encourage the new social workers that are 113 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: coming through the program just because it's a hard job. 114 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: Would you say so, guys, I mean they're just getting 115 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: started in their careers now and say they're seeing now 116 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: that yeah, it's not always what we think it is. 117 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: And so so let's briefly, very briefly be introduced to 118 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: some of these students. So starting with Laura, you're at 119 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: the top of my screen. Just tell me your name, 120 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: who you are, what your degree or degrees, and just 121 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: kind of do sholf real quickly, and then we'll get 122 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: to kind of the work that you've done. 123 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 5: Well. 124 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm Laura I. 125 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: McNeil, Lamanil. 126 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 6: I got both of my degrees from Southern they're both 127 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 6: in social work bachelor, undergrad and masters. My social work 128 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: experience is kind of all over the field. My undergrad 129 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: internships or internship was at CPS job Projective Services and 130 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 6: I was in safety and investigations, and then my grad 131 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 6: school internship was at a nursing home, so very both 132 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 6: opposite sides of the playing field. Loved them both, Yeah, 133 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 6: and I hope to do I think I want to 134 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 6: work with like hospice, geriatrics, that kind of stuff. 135 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: Cool. Amy. 136 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 7: Hey, I'm a Lee Evans and I got my bachelor's 137 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 7: and sociology, philosophy and nonprofit studies, and I got my 138 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 7: master's in social work. During my I was actually able 139 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 7: to do a really cool research project on women's addiction 140 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 7: and recovery experiences. 141 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: That's the population I work with. 142 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 7: I am currently the director of therapeutic programming at a 143 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 7: residential women's addiction work White Recenter. 144 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 3: Very Me, Bailey, Hey, my. 145 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: Name is Bailey mcplaine. 146 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 8: I got my undergrad and graduate degrees in social work 147 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 8: from Southern mess I had Daughter Smith for Bothel. For 148 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 8: my undergrad internship experience, I was working with the homeless 149 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 8: population in Hattiesburg, and then in grad school I worked 150 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 8: with adolescent teenagers with intellectual disabilities. And I also participated 151 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 8: in a program through the University of Arkansas Medical Sciences 152 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 8: called Lend Leadership and Education and Neurodevelopmental Disabilities. But I 153 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 8: think I want to veer more towards working with kids. 154 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 8: You know know that I've had all these experiences. I 155 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 8: loved them all, but I love my kids a lot. 156 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,479 Speaker 2: William, and my name is William Elijah Woodward. 157 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 9: And I did my undergrad at louis In or State University. 158 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 9: I'm from New Orleans originally. That's my That's where I 159 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 9: want to be long term. I love the city. And 160 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 9: I did my masters at University of Southern Mephafiit be 161 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 9: in social work, my underground experience if you were in school, 162 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 9: working with like troubled adolescent. And then and for my masters, 163 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 9: I worked with homeless, the homeless population and Hattie work. 164 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: Uh sash is a Sashia, Sasha Saysia. I apologize. 165 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: My name is Sasha Flucker. 166 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 10: I got both of my degrees from Southern missis will 167 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 10: my undergrad and social work and my master's in social 168 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 10: work as well. And I had doctor Smith all the 169 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 10: way through. I was also a graduate assistant, so I 170 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 10: spent extra time with doctor Smith as will I did 171 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 10: my undergraduate internship at the Children's Center for Communication and 172 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 10: Development that work with kids who have disabilities, and then 173 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 10: I had my master's internship with the geriatric population. So 174 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 10: kind of White Laura, we were until two different ends 175 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 10: of it with my goalies. I want to have some 176 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 10: type of program to advocate for kids with autism. 177 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 5: Tara, Hello, My name is Tara Dummaybe. I got my 178 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 5: bachelor's and masters and so she worked from the University 179 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 5: of Southern Mississippi. For my undergraduate internship, I interned at 180 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 5: Kids Held Child Advocacy Center. I worked with children that 181 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 5: were used in their families. And then for graduate school, 182 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: my internship he was at the Institute's a Disability Studies 183 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 5: at Southern miss Bailey and I actually interned together, so 184 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 5: I worked with adolescent disabilities and then I also participated. 185 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: In the Lend p Friend and last but not least, Juliana. 186 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 11: So my name is Julianna Stevens. I got my undergrad 187 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 11: at Mississi State University in social or. I worked a 188 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 11: couple of years in the fields in special education, child advocacy, 189 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 11: and in patient psych. I did that and then was like, well, 190 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 11: I need to give a master's. So I went to 191 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 11: Southern miss and got my master's in social work and 192 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 11: just graduated like everybody else heearched. 193 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 4: So it's been good. 194 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: I've never considered myself a scholar, but rarely do I 195 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: feel like I'm the dumbest person in the room. And 196 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 3: when I hear all these undergraduate and graduate degrees and 197 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: everything else, I'm struck by two things. One I feel 198 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: like a dummy, and two how encouraged I am to 199 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: see so many young faces who are inspired to spend 200 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: so much time learning a craft that is intended to 201 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: better society. So one, thanks for making me feel like 202 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: an idiot, But to applaud you all for working so 203 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: hard and developing a skill set that hopefully betters our culture. 204 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: And now a few messages from our general sponsors, but 205 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: first a thought or two from yours. Truly, at least 206 00:12:54,360 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: two teachers, doctor Ronda and Jenny Manguno, organically just decided 207 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: to use the podcast in their classroom without any encouragement 208 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: from us, and candidly any knowledge until we found out later. 209 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: But what if there was encouragement from us. It could 210 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: be a great resource for service clubs and all kinds 211 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: of classes social work, oral communications, english history, religion. If 212 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: you're a teacher and decide to do this or share 213 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: it with teachers in schools you know for their consideration, 214 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: let us know. And also if you have any questions, 215 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: email me at Bill at normal folks dot us and 216 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: I'll respond We'll be right back. So with that, certainly, 217 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: you spent a lot of money on education, you spend 218 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: a lot of time, and then this goofy doctor Ronda 219 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 3: Smith says, Okay, you've paid to school and learn, and 220 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: now I'm going to sign you to listen to a podcast. 221 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta wonder when you first heard that 222 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: you had to go listen to some goofy podcast just 223 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: part of your class experience. What was what was? What 224 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: was what were your first thoughts podcasts for social work? Anybody? 225 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 10: I didn't know what to expect. I kind of did 226 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 10: when she said to do it. I'm not like a podcaster. 227 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 10: I don't like listen to podcasts. 228 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: Me neither do. 229 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what to expect, But 230 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: then I found some. 231 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 10: I kind of scrolled through to see like what it 232 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 10: was about, and then one that popped out was to 233 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 10: me about I think it was about I think his 234 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 10: name was John or something cood. He had something about 235 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 10: prisoners and the system and he got them to get 236 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 10: a bachelor's degree for juveniles or something, and it popped 237 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 10: out and then I watched it, and then I started 238 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 10: watching them, and then I went down a rabbit me 239 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 10: start watching others. 240 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: So I think that would be my response if I 241 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: was going to squag, I'll listen to a podcast what 242 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: this is about? So as a class, I know you've 243 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: watched some videos about Cornbread Hustle, which is Cherry Garcio, 244 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: who's amazing, and with Chad Howser with a Cafe momentum, 245 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: which I think is interesting that he's a class you watched, Rhonda. 246 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: I'm curious as you noticed your students starting to listening 247 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: to episodes, did you see the episodes help them form 248 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: some of what they were thinking they were going to 249 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: do with their education? Or maybe I shouldn't even lead 250 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: that way, Maybe ick to say what was your goal? 251 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: The goal was to. 252 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: Help the ideas become more concrete because at the very 253 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: beginning of this assignment, you know, it was very they 254 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: weren't sure what they were going to create. It was 255 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: a you know, they had to come up with a 256 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: business plan. They had to come up with an idea. 257 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: What are you passionate about? First of all, what y'all 258 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: help me remember what population are you going to work with? 259 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 4: What kind of an. 260 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: Idea do you think the community that you're working with need. 261 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: So we go through all of these exercises to decide 262 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: what their project is going to be for the semester, 263 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: and then to kind of figure out that it's doable. 264 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: That's when I introduced the podcast. I want you to 265 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: know that these things are possible, and so I also 266 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: wanted them to go through and pick out an episode 267 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: maybe that's similar to what they are looking at doing. 268 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's a if someone is interested in 269 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: working with juveniles who are incarcerated, you know, go through 270 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: and find an episode of someone who has already done 271 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: some work in that area. And then I encourage them 272 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: also after they've listened to the episode, reach out to 273 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: whoever the person is that has already done that work 274 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: for ideas, Reach use the resource that you have in 275 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: front of you. 276 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: That that's really cool. So who here listened or found 277 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: an episode that fit or aligned closely with a project 278 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: that not only they were completing for coursework, but may 279 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 3: actually be something you want to do beyond. Can someone 280 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: tell me that did anybody align with one of the 281 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: episodes and something you actually wanted to do that was close. 282 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: Well? 283 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: What are we giving this, Bailey? Yeah, Bailey, go ahead. 284 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: Sorry. 285 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 8: I wasn't you know, like quite sure exactly which direction 286 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 8: I was going with like my business plan assignment and all. 287 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 8: But like I said, you know, when I introduced it myself, 288 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 8: like I have a big heart for kids, huge heart 289 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 8: for kids, and especially like kids in like adoption, in 290 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 8: foster care and things like that. And so the episode 291 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 8: that I listened to it was the one with Monica 292 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 8: Keltzy the Safe Haven Baby Boxes, And I was driving 293 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 8: home from How to Spark one day. I'm from about 294 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 8: an hour and a half away, and I was like, oh, 295 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 8: you know, I gotta do the summit for doctor Smith. 296 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 8: Let me just turn it on and listen. You know, 297 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 8: I'm driving, you know, not thinking that. Yeah, it would 298 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 8: really I guess like touch me the way that it did. 299 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 8: It was like it was encouraging, to say the least, 300 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 8: like moving into the business plan and all. I was 301 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 8: like just thinking to myself, like Monica, like, you know, 302 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 8: she took this thing that happened to her that could 303 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 8: have I guess ruined a person, like could really like 304 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 8: have sent her life in a completely different directions. She 305 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 8: used it for better, you know, not only you know, 306 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 8: to help people like her, but to make this impact nationwide. 307 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 8: And I was talking to my mom after I listened 308 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 8: to the podcast about it, you know, telling her about 309 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 8: like the safe having baby boxes and this is she 310 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 8: had never heard of it. And I mean she works 311 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 8: in healthcare, but she had never heard of it. But 312 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 8: I had heard of it, you know before I'd send 313 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 8: her on TikTok. That's where I get a lot of 314 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 8: my information from this TikTok. But yeah, it was just 315 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 8: again like kind of like what doctor Smith said, it 316 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 8: ago like you're just giving this giving us this idea, 317 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 8: like if we take this seriously and this assignment seriously, 318 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 8: like this is something that we can do, and this 319 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 8: is something that we can use to make an impact, 320 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 8: like like Monica Kelsey has made an impact and make 321 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 8: a difference in make a change. So it wasn't, you know, 322 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 8: directly related to what I ended up doing my business plan, 323 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 8: but it was such like a confidence boost of like Bailey, 324 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 8: like take this serious and like you can for real 325 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 8: do this one day. 326 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: I love that One of the things we one of 327 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: the things we talk about all the time on an 328 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: Army normal folks is look, it's entertainment, right, So we 329 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: always have to try to make the music fit and 330 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: the breaks fit, and hopefully make people laugh and smile 331 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: and think, because ultimately, if you don't entertain nobody's going 332 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 3: to tend and to listen. But the side benefit to 333 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 3: that is, hopefully, if you listen long enough, you're going 334 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: to hear an episode. If it's entertaining enough, you'll keep 335 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: tuning in weekly. But if you listen long enough, not 336 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 3: only are going to be entertained, but eventually you're going 337 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: to find something that aligns with your interest and your 338 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 3: passions and your disciplines and abilities that then it in 339 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: turn hopefully inspires you to do something. I think classical 340 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: music is amazing, but I can't hammer out Happy Birthday 341 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: on a piano, much less play any kind of beautiful instrument. Therefore, 342 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: although I'm passionate about classical music and think it's beautiful, 343 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 3: it's nothing I'm going to ever engage in with anyone. 344 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: So while I'm passionate about it, it's not a discipline 345 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: on Both your passions and your disciplines have to collide, 346 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: and that's when opportunities happen. And if you listen long enough, 347 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: hopefully there's a varied enough stories that sooner or later, 348 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: something you are passionate about that you have an ability 349 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: in will inspire you to get involved. That's kind of 350 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 3: the whole idea. Then the second part is if you 351 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: want to get involved, the show itself is a blueprint 352 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: of how, and you have the very architect of that 353 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: blueprint available to you to contact, which is something Ronda said. 354 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 3: Dutch Smith said, Hey, if something's there, reach out. So 355 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm curious, did any of you reach out to anybody 356 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: that was on one of the episodes? Just curious any 357 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: of you? No one? Did it? Doctor Smith? 358 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: I know they're too chicken, and they're too Yeah, they're 359 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: too chicken. 360 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: Okay, someone else, tell me what they listened to and 361 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: why and how it interacted with what your coursework was. Anyone? Oh, 362 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: Amy Lee, Amy Lee popping up here? Let's go Amy, 363 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: what you got? 364 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 7: Even though I didn't contact anyone, I will say I 365 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 7: go back and look at the organizations that those individuals 366 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 7: have built, and I look at their framework, and I 367 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 7: look at that type of things, and I utilize that 368 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 7: when I'm working in an administrative capacity in my organization currently. 369 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: So that really opened a door for me. 370 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 7: I also think, you know, I was in the social 371 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 7: entrepreneurship class, and you know I have a unique story. 372 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 7: I grew up at a rehab so my family, I'm 373 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 7: a third generation. My family has run this recovery center 374 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 7: for twenty years. So I grew up over around women 375 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 7: going through the hardest season of their life. 376 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: And just like you're talking about an army of normal folks. 377 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 7: Like when I listen to your intro, I'm like, this 378 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 7: is this is what I feel on a cellular level, 379 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 7: is this is what it takes that I've worked with 380 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 7: an army of normal folks my whole life. So I 381 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 7: thought it was funny when you were like you guys 382 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 7: with all your degree. I went back as eight years 383 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 7: later as a non traditional student. So I've done, I've been. 384 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 7: I know that it takes an army of normal folks, 385 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 7: and I think we all know it takes the village, 386 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 7: you know, to help any of the people that were helping, 387 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 7: not just people with degrees, but like to me, one 388 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 7: of my favorite episodes of Yours Now it was actually 389 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 7: your shop talk on I think it was like what counts. 390 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: As helping others? 391 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: What? 392 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: What what counts as helping others. 393 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, gosh, that was an early shot talk I think. 394 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: I think it was in March. 395 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: Okay. 396 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 7: So the reason that one resonated with me the most 397 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 7: is I've spent my whole life on every side of 398 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 7: helping others and the heartache and the beauty that comes 399 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 7: with that and watching people transform their lives. 400 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: And I love how in that. 401 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 7: Episode you talked about we can help people write down 402 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 7: the hallway. That's that's how we start with our family 403 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 7: because I see all these like women and men who 404 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 7: rehab like one hundred residents that we serve at this point, 405 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 7: and they didn't have people who helped them down the hallway, right, 406 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 7: And I see that being a big reason why they 407 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 7: end up in our in our care right. And I 408 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 7: think that if I can't take that one step further 409 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 7: and I'm in with this, I think not only as 410 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 7: an army of normal faults do we are by helping 411 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 7: people down the hallway and our families? Just like you said, 412 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 7: I think what I'm realizing, especially from podcasts like yours 413 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 7: and for professors and mentors like doctor Smith, is that, yeah, 414 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 7: we actually. 415 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: Started our heart and then we go the whole way. 416 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: Because when I take care of me, I can take 417 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: care of my family. 418 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 7: And when I take care of me and my family, 419 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 7: I can help take care of my community. And I 420 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 7: have a lot more clarity about how I want to 421 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 7: do that and a simple ways of which I can 422 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 7: do that. 423 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: So that's how you've impacted me. I really appreciate it. 424 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: Well, that's awesome. I wasn't fishing for adulation, but you 425 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: just you guys can keep heaping it on. It's fine. 426 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: I grew up fat and redheaded, so the more you 427 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: want to heap on me, the better, the better I do. 428 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 3: William lsu gut A by you. Yeah, I know. Tell 429 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: me what episode you listen to and how it fits. 430 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 9: I think the main impact the episode I listened to 431 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 9: about listening. 432 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: I listened to like one, I listened to two. 433 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 9: But the one that had a bigger impact on me 434 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 9: was also one of the workshop ones, I think, and 435 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 9: it was about listening to older people in your life 436 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 9: and and I think really at the time I was 437 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 9: working with homeless individual and the impact that that had 438 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 9: on me was y'all talked about not only is it 439 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 9: good to go to your elders and listen to them 440 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 9: for their sake, it's also good for your own sake, 441 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 9: and we forget about that. I had been reflecting recently 442 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 9: on how much I was learning. 443 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: From the homeless people I was working with. 444 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 9: I think these are people we often overlook and we 445 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 9: don't think they have anything to offer us. But many 446 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 9: of the times when I slowed down and just heard 447 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 9: the stories of my client, I found that it. 448 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: Was impactful on me and I had things to learn 449 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 2: from them. And it really just gets. 450 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 12: Back to that overall idea of not dehumanizing people, not 451 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 12: overlooking people, and wanting that human connection no matter the 452 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 12: circumstances people are in. 453 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, that was actually a shop talk 454 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: as well. I believe it was brought to us from 455 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: a listener who challenged us to just spend a little 456 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: time with some older folks. And what she got out 457 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: of it was not the time she spent into it, 458 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 3: but what she learned from the wisdom that poured out 459 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 3: of folks that oftentime didn't have anybody to share that wisdom, with, 460 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 3: which I think is is awesome. We'll be right back 461 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 3: and Juliana, tell me about tell me about an episode 462 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: that resonated with us as it as it pertains to. 463 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 11: Your coursework, right, So with our coursework, we have to 464 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 11: go through an internship while we're in school, so we 465 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 11: do like three days of internship in two days of class, 466 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 11: so it's part of our curriculum. But one of the 467 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 11: episodes I watched was with Jessica Lamb where she was 468 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 11: doing tattoo cover ups with survivors of human trafficking gang violence. 469 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta interrupt you to catch everybody up 470 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: on that one, because Jessica Lamb is one of the 471 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: bravest young ladies I've ever been around. But her for 472 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: those who hadn't heard the episode, like Juliana was explaining, 473 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: is many young women who are victims of human trafficking 474 00:28:54,120 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: get branded, stamped, tattooed by their pimp who is ultimately 475 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: their captor and who has complete control over their lives. 476 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: And they brand them, they stamp them, they tattoo them 477 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: that basically says you are you belong to me. And 478 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: girls that are fortunately rescued out of trafficking and go 479 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: through therapy and all kinds of work to break not 480 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: only the literal physical chains, they have emotional chains. And 481 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: as they're going through this therapy and working so hard 482 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: to refine their individualism and their freedom, and to break 483 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: both the figurative and the literal chains that bound them 484 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: to this horrific existence of servitude sexual servitude. Every time 485 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: they wake up in the morning look in the mirror 486 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: after a day of therapy trying to get over it, 487 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: they're reminded of what they were by a physical branding 488 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: or tattoo on their neck or their face, or their 489 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: arms or whatever. And so to aid in breaking from this, 490 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: Jessica Lamb started free tattoo removal for women who were 491 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: found and she is dealing with some of the girls 492 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: who have been the worst of the worst and the 493 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: worst of the worst. And sometimes she does this risking 494 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: her own peril because oftentimes the people that she helps 495 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: are not that too long away from their captors who 496 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: desperately want them back. So to hear that you listen 497 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 3: to Jessica Lamb's story is awesome because I think she is. 498 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: You talk about somebody nobody knows about doing unbelievable work. 499 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: There's one, So I'm sorry, go ahead. I wanted to 500 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: catch everybody up on them. 501 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 11: That was while I was listening to this, I was 502 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 11: interning in a domestic abuse shelter where we also helped 503 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 11: in so or survivors of human traffic. And so whenever 504 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 11: people come into your office or come into shelters, you 505 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 11: kind of you don't hear a lot of the gritty details. 506 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 11: You don't really know exactly what they've experienced. You just 507 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 11: meet them where they are and you serve them how 508 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 11: you can. But I guess hearing her story and everything 509 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 11: that she has gone through and like the really nitty 510 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 11: gritty of it all, it gave me a lot of 511 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 11: insight into the people coming into shelters and able to 512 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 11: serve them better and to be more trauma informed about 513 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 11: some of those things that they've experienced before they've walked 514 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 11: into our doors. 515 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: So that was really really awesome. Did you find, curiously, 516 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: did you find young women that had branded tattoos? And 517 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: did you ever were able ever to discuss that with 518 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: any album? 519 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 11: So none that anyone showed me or came out and 520 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 11: told me about. I'm sure that somebody has come in 521 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 11: with something similar. A lot of it is just emotional baggage. 522 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 11: A lot of it is emotional. Sorry, but I never 523 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 11: saw one specifically that knowing that that does happen and 524 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 11: that is real and more real than me think. 525 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: It is always to be on the lookout. Okay, I 526 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: don't think I've heard who else I had not heard 527 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: from Tara. You're one, Tara, tell me tell me about 528 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: your experience with an army normal folks has obtained your coursework? 529 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, so similar to Bailey, I listened to Marne while 530 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 5: driving in the car, so I kind of like scrolled 531 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 5: through and I clicked on one and I listened to 532 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 5: I find the name therapists aren't the only option or 533 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 5: only hold on. Therapists aren't the only answer, and I 534 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: found it interesting. I come from a long line of 535 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 5: military family from both sides, so I know firsthand of 536 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 5: how much mental health support is important before people something 537 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 5: military background. And this book's going to hand going along 538 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 5: with the project our business plan in class, I feel 539 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 5: very lost trying to decide what I should be my 540 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 5: business planing on. I feel like I have some passions, 541 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 5: but I do my projects on all like the same passions. 542 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 5: So trying to find something different to do this business 543 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 5: plan on was like really working me up, I guess. 544 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 5: And so after listening to the podcast, while I did 545 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 5: not do my my project on militiar families, I did 546 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 5: stick with the mental health and in the actually description 547 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 5: of the episode itself, it talks about how therapists aren't 548 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 5: the only like people that can help others. 549 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: It's the afores us and it's. 550 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 5: Like serving one another puer support. It kind of made 551 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: me realize within my business plan just at our university, 552 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 5: at the University of Southern Mississippi, that we need to 553 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 5: lean on each other and support each other more, especially 554 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 5: through mental health crises. And so I took that idea 555 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 5: and I ran with it to create my business plan 556 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 5: on treating an app to serve students with mental health crises. 557 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: Oh, it's cool, and that actually kind of sums up 558 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: the whole idea, is that an army of normal folks 559 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 3: supporting one another is the way to go. Okay, So, Wanda, 560 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I keep calling you on it, doctor Smith. 561 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: Let me give you your credit works. Dude. 562 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: That's okay because we're all colleagues now, they're all graduated, 563 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: we're now, so it's all cool. 564 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: That's good. 565 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: So she shared with and I hope some of you 566 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: are here, and if not, maybe Roddy you can comment. 567 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 3: You said that one student wants to start an equan 568 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 3: therapy nonprofit for those dealing with substance abuse. Her family 569 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 3: already has a form, she's well versed horses. A good 570 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: example of passion and skill set meeting at opportunity. She's 571 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: actually thinking about genuinely pursuing that idea. Is that person here, No, No, 572 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: she's not here. 573 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 4: She couldn't be here. 574 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 2: She's she actually is working already. 575 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: So that's Abby Donahu And so she is working right now. 576 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 4: What do you want to know about her project? 577 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? I just want to know she's actually thinking about 578 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 3: pursuing it. 579 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 4: Is she yeah? 580 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding, no kidding. 581 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 582 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: They have the property and the horses, and she had 583 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: done a lot of research on equan therapy. It's still 584 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: and plans on becoming more versed in that mode of therapy. 585 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: And so I hope that she does that. 586 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 4: She's happen a Jackson area That is. 587 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: A beautiful example of what we always talk about where 588 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 3: passion and discipline needed opportunity. She's clearly passionate about horses. 589 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 3: She has a discipline, she's passionate about people's substance abuse, 590 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 3: and she's using what she knows where she has it 591 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 3: with what she loves to make a difference. It's very 592 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: very cool. Another wants to start a community garden with 593 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: different gardens all over the city for folks who make 594 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 3: night get enough food and healthy food, and people in 595 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: the neighborhood can then volunteer at the garden and get food. 596 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: Is that person here, Oh it's l hey is Yes, 597 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 3: that's about that. Are you doing this? What's going on here? Girl? 598 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: This whole gardening in the city and free food and 599 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: what do you some kind of save the world person? 600 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: What's up with you? 601 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 11: Are? 602 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 6: So my thought process when doing the community garden kind 603 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 6: of all started. 604 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 2: So first off, I was having doctor smith kntest. 605 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 6: I was having a hard time like with like the 606 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 6: the loose directions of just like follow your passion, and 607 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know, because I'd, like Tara, 608 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 6: I had so many things I wanted to do or 609 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 6: that I was interested in or passionate about. So I 610 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 6: guess when I really thought about thinking, like really thought 611 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 6: about it, I wanted to do something different that I 612 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 6: didn't see really in this city specifically, And I think 613 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 6: I really thought it started thinking about it when I 614 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 6: thought back to like my days at the CPS, and 615 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 6: you saw that a lot of families that were struggling 616 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 6: to provide for their children. Was not out of like 617 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 6: lack of care, it was out of lack of resources. 618 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 6: So then I started researching, and I've done a couple 619 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 6: projects on like like food stamps and food banks and 620 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 6: stuff like that, and a lot of them only except 621 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 6: food that has a high shelf life, which makes sense, 622 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 6: but when you when families go to receive those, they 623 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 6: don't get any of that fresh, leady like vegetables produce 624 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 6: that you need every day. And then Robert Saint John 625 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 6: actually came and talked to our class, and he is 626 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 6: the founder of Extra Table, and their mission was kind 627 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 6: of similar of that. Like cherry pie filling and tomato 628 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 6: sauce isn't like a meal, Like you can get that 629 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 6: from a. 630 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: Food bank, but it's not a meal, you know, like because. 631 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 6: A lot of times those things have high shelf lifts 632 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 6: and that's just what they are able to accept. And 633 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 6: a lot of time the more organic foods or fresh 634 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 6: fresh foods are more expensive on food stamps as well. 635 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 6: So sometimes when you want you have a bigger family, 636 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 6: you have to get different kind of foods to be 637 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 6: able to feed everybody on that certain amount of money. 638 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 6: So my thought was that there would be gardens around 639 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 6: Hattiesburg that community members could could volunteer at, and then 640 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 6: families that needed the produce could also volunteer there and 641 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 6: access have access. 642 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 4: To shoot as well. 643 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 3: Are you doing it? 644 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,479 Speaker 1: I might? 645 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 4: I might not right now, but I might in the future. 646 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 3: Don't be a wemy. Go for it. 647 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: No, I know, I know. 648 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 3: I go out raising money and get after it. It's 649 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: a great idea. It's a great idea. 650 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 4: Thank you. 651 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 3: And that concludes part one of my conversation with doctor 652 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: Ronda Smith's class, and you really don't want to miss 653 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 3: part two. It's now available to listen to. Together, guys, 654 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 3: we can change this country, but it starts with you. 655 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 3: I'll see in part two.