WEBVTT - ANNIE F. DOWNS

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my friend. We are back with another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Love Someone, and this one is gonna be fun. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got Nashville, Tennessee's best selling author. She's a popular speaker.

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<v Speaker 1>She does her own podcast. Her name is Annie f. Downs.

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<v Speaker 1>She's with us today, and she has written the book

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<v Speaker 1>on fun. Literally, I'm not kidding. Her book That Sounds Fun,

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<v Speaker 1>The Joys of being an Amateur, The Power of Falling

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<v Speaker 1>in Love, and Why You Need a Hobby. It was

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<v Speaker 1>released in February. She is the host of a very

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<v Speaker 1>popular podcast, also called That Sounds Fun, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the founder of the That Sounds Fun Network. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say it's safe to say she is an expert

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<v Speaker 1>on the topic of fun. Annie has been described as engaging, honest,

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<v Speaker 1>a straight shooter who doesn't shy away from really tough topics.

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<v Speaker 1>Like me, she seems to revel in time shared with

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family and belly laughs. After the crazy train

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been on in and into one, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we need fun. We need to rethink fun. We need

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<v Speaker 1>more fun, not as something we might get to after

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<v Speaker 1>all our of our other priorities are taken care of,

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<v Speaker 1>but something that we must prioritize right up there with

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<v Speaker 1>our physical and spiritual needs. We need fun, We need laughter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the expression laughter is the best medicine. It is,

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<v Speaker 1>it truly is. We need lots of laughter and joy

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<v Speaker 1>and fun. Annie speaks to how we need it to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>That fun is actually life saving medicine, and she's going

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<v Speaker 1>to share some great tips on how to put the

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<v Speaker 1>fun and the joy back in our lives. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>org slash love. Welcome Annie Downs to love someone. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so glad that we are talking about this topic

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<v Speaker 1>because for years, for years, some people I won't mention names,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people in my immediate family, some people that

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<v Speaker 1>I was married to once upon a time. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>think that I am a little Craig Craig because I

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<v Speaker 1>love to have fun and I will go to great

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<v Speaker 1>lengths to have fun and to do ridiculous, absolutely stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>practical jokes to people. And I love that you celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>corny fun. So which came first? Your book, your podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>or your passion for belly laughs? Well, you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Delilah Prazards, thanks for having me on today. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>the I think what came first is just my natural

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<v Speaker 1>love of fun. Like I kind of was just born

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<v Speaker 1>this way and built this way. And so what I

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<v Speaker 1>had to face first was when all my friends and

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<v Speaker 1>I are growing up and becoming adults, why are they

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<v Speaker 1>stopping talking about fun? But I still want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I really had to go through this

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<v Speaker 1>season of like, what does it look like to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about fund? Does that mean I'm not grown up?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean I'm Peter Pan? No. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>job and I do my responsibilities, and and then I

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<v Speaker 1>rise like maybe I'm just made this way. Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>something too. There needs to be a few of us

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<v Speaker 1>still on the planet that talked about the power of

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<v Speaker 1>fun and what it actually means and what it's actually for.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's when the podcast came along, and then

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<v Speaker 1>five six years later is when the book came along.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, quick question here. Have you ever been asked

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<v Speaker 1>to leave a movie theater because you laugh too loud? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you more than once? At? Yeah? Really? Yep? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, so you went on that one, doyla. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to go to corny movies, really goofy, funny movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and my laugh can be heard like a mile away,

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<v Speaker 1>which the people sitting next to me don't usually appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you were built this way. Did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>feel any like you were a square peg in a

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<v Speaker 1>round hole, like like you just didn't fit in because

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<v Speaker 1>you love to have fun? I think so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think all of us can look back to sixth

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<v Speaker 1>grade right and figure out, Man, I did not feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I fit in. I mean, I think all of

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<v Speaker 1>us have those stories from our childhood and from our

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<v Speaker 1>adult life where we think I just did not fit

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<v Speaker 1>in the way I wanted to, and I didn't fit

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<v Speaker 1>in as much as I thought I wanted to to

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<v Speaker 1>feel accepted and to feel loved and and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's true. But the older I've gotten and the

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<v Speaker 1>more I've gotten used to being in my body and

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, and it really come around appreciating that

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<v Speaker 1>we're each mate so uniquely. The more it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what side the whole is, I'm the right tag for it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of what I've got and what I

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<v Speaker 1>try to encourage people in the that sounds fun? The

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<v Speaker 1>book has been like, Man, what do you love and

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<v Speaker 1>and what matters to you? And what sounds fun to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's so much power in appreciating the unique way

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<v Speaker 1>you were made a men sister, So, Annie, when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes too fun, are you the practical joker kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fun or are you just somebody who likes to experiment

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<v Speaker 1>trying new things? I'm probably not the practical joker I

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<v Speaker 1>probably way more lean on Let's get a group together

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<v Speaker 1>and go do something fun. Let's take the next thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and do something fine. Let's take a break from

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<v Speaker 1>work and do something fun and so practical joking kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just maybe not smart enough to pull all those

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<v Speaker 1>together in time. But I really love doing fun things

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<v Speaker 1>that invite other people into it, that help people feel

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<v Speaker 1>connect did and help people feel like man, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a that was a better moment than I expected. Why

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<v Speaker 1>does fun matter to you? Like, you know, I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book about love because because that matters. Why does

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<v Speaker 1>this concept of of levity or laughter or fun matter

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<v Speaker 1>so much that you would write a book about it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for me, I think fun really encompasses a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things we're looking for, and there aren't a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people talking about it. I like bringing up

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<v Speaker 1>conversations that people want to be having but may not

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<v Speaker 1>have the words for quite at the moment. Because when

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<v Speaker 1>I think about fun, I think about, man, who are

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<v Speaker 1>the people I want to be around, and who do

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<v Speaker 1>I love? And and how does that play into what

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<v Speaker 1>is fun for me? And and where are the places

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to learn something new? And what are

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<v Speaker 1>the hobbies I want to pick up. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of fun is is really all encompassing in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives, and and so I wanted to write about

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<v Speaker 1>that because it matters so deeply to me. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's really been an active part of shaping the

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<v Speaker 1>lights that I have and shaping some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>parts of my life. And and as I was having

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about fun on the podcast on that Sounds Fun

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<v Speaker 1>to Podcast, I realized, like, man, there is more to

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation that I'm able to have just with these guests.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to write about this and research this and

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<v Speaker 1>dig into this, and and so it just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>became the main thing I wanted to think about and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about and write about. And there is such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge void, it seems, especially especially this past year year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, this huge void of levity. Everything is

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<v Speaker 1>so serious. Do you find that that people have been

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<v Speaker 1>watching the news or being in COVID shutdown of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lost that fun bear. Yeah. For me, what I

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<v Speaker 1>saw over the last year was a lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>that we had these big dreams of fun that was

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<v Speaker 1>going to I hadn't on my calendar two trips overseas

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<v Speaker 1>or trips to Disney World or Disneyland, or or of

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<v Speaker 1>these big concerts or sporting events you wanted to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>And and when all of that gets canceled, we either

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had the choice to to not have fun

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<v Speaker 1>and to just kind of sit in the loss that

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<v Speaker 1>we experienced, or we could try to find some simpler

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<v Speaker 1>fund some easier, more local, more at home grown fun. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big believer in feeling or feeling, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that that we needed to not be disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>or sad. But at the same time, I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>many people got back into puzzles and got into bread making,

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<v Speaker 1>and got into having conversations with friends over zoom people

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't talked to in a long time. And So

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<v Speaker 1>what I saw over the last year and what I

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<v Speaker 1>was glad is I was finishing writing that sounds fun,

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<v Speaker 1>is when the pandemic began. So I got to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lay the filter of a worldwide pandemic on top

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<v Speaker 1>of a book of fun and see if it all

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<v Speaker 1>stayed true. And what I ended up realizing is, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is still a big meat in our lives and

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<v Speaker 1>in our hearts, and there is a way to do

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<v Speaker 1>that even when the world is not as you're used

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<v Speaker 1>to it being. I got a confession to make, Annie,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. I had a hell of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun during the COVID shutdown. What did you do? I

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<v Speaker 1>spent the entire year with my family. I didn't leave

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<v Speaker 1>the house for weeks. I have never lived with my

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<v Speaker 1>husband his career and my career since the day we met.

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<v Speaker 1>We've lived in different states. We got married, we still

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<v Speaker 1>live in different states, and we just you know, visit,

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<v Speaker 1>we travel back and forth. But during the COVID shutdown,

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<v Speaker 1>we lived together. Our whole family lived together on a

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<v Speaker 1>five acre cattle ranch, and I can tell you it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the most fun experiences of my life

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<v Speaker 1>to spend that kind of intimate time with my kids

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<v Speaker 1>and my husband doing amazing things, simple things, but amazing things. So,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the most silly or wonderfully spontaneous

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<v Speaker 1>things that you have ever done? Just like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>to pull people into the moment, to get them to

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<v Speaker 1>lighten up, what are some of the really amazing moments

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<v Speaker 1>that you have had that you would encourage other people

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<v Speaker 1>not to do the same thing, obviously, but to just

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<v Speaker 1>take a chance on fun. Well, you know what this

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<v Speaker 1>is a great part about talking about fun is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times the big and bold and wild fun

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<v Speaker 1>things are actually not attainable to everybody and aren't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>what your fondest memories are. So what really comes to

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<v Speaker 1>mind is like Friday at work. It got to me

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<v Speaker 1>about four o'clock and we were all still stay around

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<v Speaker 1>answering emails, and one of my co workers said, let's

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<v Speaker 1>order guacamoley, and so we are guacamole just randomly on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday afternoon. That's not a big thing, but then

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<v Speaker 1>it was really fun just to take him in and

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<v Speaker 1>sit around and laugh and eat guacamole together. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think about during the pandemic, some other girlfriends and I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we all live alone separately because we

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<v Speaker 1>aren't married yet, and so we all live alone across town,

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<v Speaker 1>and we decided to all watch the same movie at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time over face time, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>a real small moment, but it was really meaningful to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of what I mean. One time,

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<v Speaker 1>some friends and I, you can take a flight from

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville where I live, down to Panama City to that airport,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got on that morning flight on Southwest, and

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<v Speaker 1>all we packed, we had our slim suits on in

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<v Speaker 1>our clothes on top, and we just took our beach

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<v Speaker 1>bags down and we flew down for seventy nine dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and went and laid on the beach for the day

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<v Speaker 1>and flew back on the evening flight that night for

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine dollars. So that was pretty fun. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for doing fun that is manageable as far

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<v Speaker 1>as financially and time wise, so that instead of putting

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<v Speaker 1>tons of pressure on a vacation in one week in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer and said, you've been having fun all the

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<v Speaker 1>way along A men to that. My mom was the

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<v Speaker 1>queen of having fun on a shoestring budget. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>always always worked, had a good job. We weren't poor,

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<v Speaker 1>but we certainly weren't rich. You know, we lived very simply.

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<v Speaker 1>They were very thrifty. But my mom could pull together

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<v Speaker 1>a party on like five bucks, I kid you not,

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<v Speaker 1>and on a whim. You know, on a Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd say, let's go crabbing, and she'd get on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and call half the neighborhood and we'd all meet

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<v Speaker 1>down at the crab dock. And my dad would bring

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<v Speaker 1>his guitar and we would crab off the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the dock and catch crab and cook them on the

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<v Speaker 1>beach and have a party. Not a stupid, get drunk

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stupid party, but just with four or five

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<v Speaker 1>of the neighbors, ten of the neighbors, all the kids

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the sand. My dad played the guitar until

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<v Speaker 1>midnight or one or two o'clock in the morning. It

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<v Speaker 1>cost us nothing. Yeah, And that, to me, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of what has gone sideways with fun is

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<v Speaker 1>people expect themselves to come up with really grandiose, expensive, big,

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<v Speaker 1>multi day fun. And I'm just such a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the simplicity of making it part of your every week,

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<v Speaker 1>of your every day, of going back because when you

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<v Speaker 1>were nine years old, you didn't have to think about fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You just had it all the time. And now, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we have more responsibilities, more things we have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about and think about, but we can still make

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<v Speaker 1>that a part of our lives. I think I do

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes a little bit too much, so that my

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<v Speaker 1>kids expect that everything is going to be fun, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to make games out of learning. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to make food fun and make you know, pancakes that

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<v Speaker 1>are the shape of butterflies, or I spell my kids

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<v Speaker 1>names out with pancakes. Well, it gets to the point where, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>this this just a round pancake. What's up? You're not

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<v Speaker 1>fun today? That's exactly right. When normal life is surprising

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<v Speaker 1>to your family because they're used to you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>kicking it up and not that's a pretty good life,

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. And my my friends and family know that

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm there, I'm going to kick it. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not kicking it up a notch, if I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to have fun, there's something drastically wrong with me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>either in physical pain or emotional pain. No, just surely that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of times we all, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all going to have off days, of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are some personalities that are less inclined to showing

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<v Speaker 1>up and being the party like you and I both are.

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<v Speaker 1>But the beautiful thing is is we we all gathered together.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody wants to feel connected, everybody wants to laugh, Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to have those kind of memories and those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of moments. Some of us it's a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 1>to think them up than others. But part of my

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<v Speaker 1>hope with the book is that we've set out some

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<v Speaker 1>ideas and some concepts for people that will help jump

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<v Speaker 1>start them into what they're thinking about. So, how can

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<v Speaker 1>we give me some baby steps to take? I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've become very cynical and very divided as a nation

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<v Speaker 1>as a society. Give us some annie, some baby steps.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you spell them out and that sounds fun, But

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<v Speaker 1>give us a starting point, a launching point for incorporating

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of playfulness or fun back into our day,

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<v Speaker 1>back into our routine. Yeah. I think it starts with

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<v Speaker 1>a really simple question that you ask yourself, and you

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<v Speaker 1>ask the people that you sit around and eat dinner with.

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<v Speaker 1>And the question is what sounds fun to you? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really simple question. But what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and kind of ask around the table tonight

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<v Speaker 1>at dinner. Okay, we're gonna answer everyone, want everybody answer

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<v Speaker 1>this question? What sounds fun to you? What happens is

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<v Speaker 1>it does get your brain spinning. I'm like, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I haven't thought about fun in a

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<v Speaker 1>really long time. Okay, well think about it now, start

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<v Speaker 1>thinking up. What does sound fun to you? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a particular band you want to see live in concert

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<v Speaker 1>when we're able to do that again hopefully really soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Or or is it a game you want to play?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it an instrument you want to learn? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a recipe you want to cook? Is it a sport

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<v Speaker 1>you want to try it for yourself? Like, there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many answers to what sounds funky? Maybe it's just resting.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe what sounds fun for you is reading a book

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<v Speaker 1>quietly for an hour. That's a great answer, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think asking yourself that question, it really is the

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<v Speaker 1>first step in listening to your friends and family. Who

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<v Speaker 1>you eat dinner with, or maybe you eat lunch with

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<v Speaker 1>after church on Sunday, or maybe you're in small group

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<v Speaker 1>with or you your co workers do you eat lunch

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<v Speaker 1>with every day? But when you ask that question, it

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<v Speaker 1>really stirs up something in you. It stirs up something

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<v Speaker 1>and the people that are eating with you. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if you start, if you follow up that question with,

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<v Speaker 1>well tell me why, that is almost always Delilah, You'll

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<v Speaker 1>think this is so interesting. Almost always, as you get

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<v Speaker 1>down deeper into the why behind what sounds fun to people,

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<v Speaker 1>almost always points back to while when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>kid dot dot dot because there's a simplicity that we

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<v Speaker 1>miss and our adult lives and we want to taste

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<v Speaker 1>that again. And one of the ways we get to

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<v Speaker 1>have those moments is by finding fun in the life

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to me a lot of people are worried

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<v Speaker 1>about looking foolish. They don't want to be not good

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<v Speaker 1>at something. Like you said, when we were kids, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care if I was the best soccer player. Well

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't play soccer, but you know, the best volleyball player,

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<v Speaker 1>the best swimmer, I just wanted to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>pool and swim. I didn't care if I was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the best hiking boots and could hike ten miles without stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to go climb on the hills behind

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<v Speaker 1>our house. But then something happens where we judge ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>or we have expectations of ourselves. How do you get

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<v Speaker 1>past that and just go have fun again? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean part of that. In the book, the first section

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<v Speaker 1>is actually titled the Joys of being an Amateur and

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<v Speaker 1>how much it matters that we allow ourselves to begin

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<v Speaker 1>at new things, to start something we've never done before,

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<v Speaker 1>to give ourselves permission to be new at today where

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<v Speaker 1>we are in our lives today. The only thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a professional act is my job. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>else I want to stay an amateur I and being

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<v Speaker 1>an amateur kind of gets a bad rap, But the

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<v Speaker 1>reality is being an amateur just means you're trying something new,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're doing things that you're not trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>a professional act. Well, I'm never gonna be a professional athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to play sports, and I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a professional like knitter, but I love cross fitting,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we've got to give ourselves this permission of like,

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<v Speaker 1>what if you are new at something, What if you

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<v Speaker 1>aren't professional at something, do you still want to try?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna be a professional chef, but I love cooking,

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we go back and give ourselves permission

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<v Speaker 1>to do that? It literally is just that Delilah of

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<v Speaker 1>literally saying to yourself, it is okay if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to do everything and to be very good

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<v Speaker 1>at everything. There is a lot of fun that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from trying new things. But if you put the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on yourself to be a professional all the time, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna miss out. How can people break out of their habits?

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like the older we get, the more set

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<v Speaker 1>in our ways. Where we have a routine where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my morning, this is my mid day, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my afternoon, this is what I do in evening.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't leave a whole lot of room for creativity

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<v Speaker 1>and fun. How can we start to break out of

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<v Speaker 1>that routine and invite fun back into our hearts, into

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<v Speaker 1>our day, into our life. So to me, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the real way to break out of our routine is

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<v Speaker 1>actually not to ruin the routine you have. Just add

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<v Speaker 1>fun to your calendar. I mean I encourage people all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Delilah, put thirty minutes of fun on your

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<v Speaker 1>calendar this Saturday, for your whole family, for you and

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<v Speaker 1>your partner, for you and your friends. Just say hey,

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<v Speaker 1>will you block off two to two thirty on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>for us to have fun? Because everything you put on

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<v Speaker 1>your calendar is what really matters to you and what

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<v Speaker 1>you will prioritize and not just skip over. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you'll put fun on your calendar, then what happens

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<v Speaker 1>is every day between now and Saturday, you're going, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do in that thirty minutes? What are

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna do that sounds fun? Well, what sounds fun

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<v Speaker 1>to them? What sounds fun to me? And then as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets closer, you've really done kind of a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive in your own heart and in your own life

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<v Speaker 1>about what you want to do in that thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what happens. I love this is you do

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<v Speaker 1>your thirty minutes of fun. You're playing outside, you do

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<v Speaker 1>a puzzle together, you you do whatever the fun thing

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<v Speaker 1>is you and your friends decided to do together or

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<v Speaker 1>you do alone. And then you reflect on it, just

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<v Speaker 1>like we do with everything else. Well, that was really fun,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wish the cookie recipe would have had more

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate chips in it. We'll do it different next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I wish we'd play soccer instead of tennis. Well

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<v Speaker 1>next week, let's play soccer. And suddenly, instead of having

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<v Speaker 1>to reshape your life because you're trying to add fun,

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<v Speaker 1>you just make space for it on your calendar like

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<v Speaker 1>you make space for everything else. You're also talk in

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<v Speaker 1>your book about having hobbies. I have way, way, way,

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<v Speaker 1>way too many hobbies. I am buried under stacks of

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<v Speaker 1>projects that are fun hobbies that I start. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people I know don't have hobbies. Talk about

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<v Speaker 1>why you think it's important that folks pick up a hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I like that you have a lot of hobbies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's really great. I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons we need those hobbies that you experienced this in

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<v Speaker 1>your life probably as much as anybody, Delila, is if

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<v Speaker 1>it really matters that we have some space away from

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<v Speaker 1>our phones, away from technology. Because I hate to break

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<v Speaker 1>it to all of our friends listening, but scrolling is

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<v Speaker 1>not a hobby. Scrolling on Instagram is not a hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>Hobbies are things where you create something, or you make something,

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<v Speaker 1>or you invest your time and your your energy into

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<v Speaker 1>something important like a cookie recipe or cross stitching or

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<v Speaker 1>learning a new instrument, and so a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>the reason we need those is we need something that

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<v Speaker 1>helps us to rest our brains. And so if we

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<v Speaker 1>work with our brains all week, we need to rest

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<v Speaker 1>with our hands and make things, create things, It really

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<v Speaker 1>helps your brains to rest. So I think hobbies matter

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<v Speaker 1>for that reason that they help us to rest in

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<v Speaker 1>a really deep and I think profound way. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are some of your hobbies? What do I love to

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<v Speaker 1>do well? To me? Right now? I'm working my way

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<v Speaker 1>through one of Danielle Walker's cookbooks, So I'm cooking on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends through in that cookbook and sharing the toils

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<v Speaker 1>of my labor with my friends and family, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's one that I'm doing right now. I love playing

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<v Speaker 1>outside and just being outside, So anything I can do

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<v Speaker 1>like that is a hobby for me, whether it's playing

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<v Speaker 1>frisbee or soccer whatever. And as I meant to a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times, I'm kind of getting back into cross

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<v Speaker 1>fitting Dewila, like my grandmother taught me thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just hadn't picked it up in a really

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<v Speaker 1>long time. And I realized a couple of months ago

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<v Speaker 1>that I was kind of tired of watching TV and

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<v Speaker 1>rolling on my phone. I feel like I was wasting

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<v Speaker 1>my life, and so I decided to start making something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started making some new patterns, some crosstitch patterns,

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<v Speaker 1>and making gifts for my friends. And I absolutely am

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 1>having the best time. Do you know, Annie, the average

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>American spins between six and fourteen hours a day on screens. Yeah,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it's wild. It is absolutely wild and so one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why it matters so much. I take on.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a day a week every week that I am not.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I am not on technology at all. I just needed

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<v Speaker 1>my brain to rest. I need to not take in

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<v Speaker 1>so much information. And so even this week on Saturday,

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I finished reading a book that I loved by Charles

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Martin called The water Keeper, and I just sat on

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<v Speaker 1>my couch and had music playing through my speakers and

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>rent for a couple of hours. And and of course

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the temptation was there to check my phone and check

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and for all the science that they tell us

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>behind the dopamine rush that having that little red notification.

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Give that. But I have learned that my my life

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<v Speaker 1>is healthier when I take some separations from screens. That

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<v Speaker 1>is hard. And as a parent with kids, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to try to impress upon them to put put

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<v Speaker 1>it down, put it away, but the computer away, turn

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<v Speaker 1>it off, walk away, let's go have fun. You would

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<v Speaker 1>think that young people would be the one saying, mom,

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>let's go out fun. But it's it's sad how addicted

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>youth are today to that dopamine that you get on

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.959
<v Speaker 1>screen time. Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean it is,

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it is for all of us. It's addicting. I think

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful that I did not have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>teenager with social media. I think it is probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the highest pressure times in the life of a

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<v Speaker 1>teenager is right now trying to maneuver, I mean, with

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<v Speaker 1>as much trouble is I have Delilah, not getting my

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<v Speaker 1>my identity and my joy out of social media. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine trying to do this at fort in fifteen sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I really and as you as a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just honor y'all who are parenting teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>and young adults through social media um and teaching them that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are so much life outside of your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and so much life outside of video games, and we

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:19.719
<v Speaker 1>need need to get out there and see it and

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<v Speaker 1>experience it. That is the biggest challenge I think I

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<v Speaker 1>face as a parent is keeping my kids engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>life instead of addicted to to a fake life. This

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>this alternative reality. M hmm, that's right, that's right. That's

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>reminding them that, you know, there's there is real bread

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to be made in the kitchen, and they're real friends

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to be made out in the world, and and there's

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>real relationships and real connection and and you know, real

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>beautiful things we can do. Even in a garden, there's

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>real things to grow. The video games where you're growing

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>things are fun, but man, let's get outside and actually

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>make errant, you know. And I think that that I

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of my friends who are parenting really

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<v Speaker 1>working towards that and working on that and helping their

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>children and even themselves see a life outside of their

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>phone that is really worth investing in. Well, Lucky for me,

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I am very blessed with the land and the gardens

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and the carrots um. But it is pulling teeth to

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<v Speaker 1>get my kids to put the damned devices down and

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>go outside and jump. They even want to take them

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<v Speaker 1>on the trampoline. I'm like, are you insane? I mean,

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel the same pressure sometimes to myself where

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I have to say to my I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 1>all these boundaries set on my phone, all these limits

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that so that I can parent myself and parent my

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<v Speaker 1>phone and how I want to interact with my phone,

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>so I don't en be any of y'all who are

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<v Speaker 1>raising other people. I'm working on raising myself using technology.

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>So you talk about that a little bit in your

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>book about raising yourself About difficulty is about about tough

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>times and vulnerable times in your life. Uh, which is

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it would seem strange to have that in a book

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>called you know that sounds fun, but you're very honest

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and very transparent. Yeah, it just really mattered to me

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>when I was writing this, and and this is how

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I am with my book, says, it just matters that

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the friends who are reading it on the other side

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm telling the truth. Now I don't have

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to tell every single detail, and that's the beauty of

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>having editors and people on my team who helped read

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>manuscript before they become public, and they say to me like, hey, Annie,

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>this is probably too much detail or the They also

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>sometimes go, hey, you started this story, but I actually

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>know there's more here for you to tell. And they

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>pushed me and encouraged me to be more vulnerable. But

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it mattered to me that in a book about fun people,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't feel like I'm Pollyanna, like I'm trying to

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>write this from a life that does not know pain

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>or loss or disappointment or heartbreak. Instead, like we learned

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the movie inside Out, what's actually true is they go

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>better hand in hand, joy and suffering, joy and sadness.

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>They're actually both brighter when they are both held together.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.479
<v Speaker 1>And so I wanted to write a book that said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm inviting you to fun, and I'm inviting you to

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<v Speaker 1>prioritize this, but I'm inviting you from a place of

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a real life that knows real pain, not from you know,

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>not a Disney Channel princess kind of life. You also

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in the book that sounds fun that living by

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<v Speaker 1>faith isn't always fun. M hm hm yeah. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the problem is is whether it's your faith or

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the career path you're on, or even though you know

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>what your favorite hobbies are, there's always a risk that

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>people are going to look at your life and for

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever is going on inside their life, they're gonna determine

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>they need to judge your life so they feel better

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>about themselves. And that is just I mean, sadly, that's

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the nature of being surrounded by humans, right, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why it matters so much that we

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<v Speaker 1>each really focus on and get a real handle on

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're not an accident, that your uniqueness is really

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>important to our planet being as colorful and wonderful and

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>vibrant as it is. And so the things you love

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and the faith you hold tight to, don't let it

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>go just because someone's judging you. Remember that you're bringing

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<v Speaker 1>a unique collection of personality traits to this planet and

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>we need that. I love the expression. I saw it

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>years ago. God looked around and realized the world needed you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's beautiful. I love that. And boy, that makes

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you think differently about your neighbors and the person who

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>cuts you off in traffic, and you know, of was

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>going like, man, the world needed them. The world needed them.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what makes falling in love so special,

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and loving people, as you talk about so much like

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>loving people is so special because you go, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine lie without knowing you, Like God knew

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 1>the world needed you and knew that I needed you.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's why lost is so profound and deep is

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<v Speaker 1>because love and lost goes so close hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that's a beautiful thought and reminds me

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of so many people that I love. If we can

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<v Speaker 1>take that posture, how much more fun is life if

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.479
<v Speaker 1>we look around and go, man, what it gifts all

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>these people are and really living with them? And God,

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a beautiful thought. It makes me more excited

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>than ever to think about the people that I love. Well,

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you go love on the people that you love. Annie.

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Tell my audience how they can find you, how they

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>can find your book, how they can find your podcast,

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>how they can find your infectious joy for living. You're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to live to thank you, Okay, so I'm embarrassingly

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>easy to find. It's Annie f Downs everywhere, just like Fun.

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Annie f Downs on all the social media places that sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun's podcast releases on Mondays and Thursdays, and you can

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>find that wherever you love to listen to podcasts. And

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the book That Sounds Fun is available everywhere. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>out for about two months. It's been really fun to

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<v Speaker 1>see people embracing new hobbies telling me that they laughed

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and cried when they read it. So you can grab

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>it from your local bookstore. They can order it for

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you if they don't have it on the shelf, or

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you can go online and get it where you love

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to buy books. I'm gonna leave you with this one

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>thought that we started doing when COVID hit, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give it this. This is my present to you. Okay, okay,

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. So you said that you live alone. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to do this over skypeer zoom until

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>things open up. But every night at dinner since COVID hit,

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>we've been having family dinners just like we had grown up.

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>And every night at dinner we ask a question and

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>go around the table and everybody responds. So the questions

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>are as ridiculous as you can imagine, or as poignant

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>as you could imagine, and it has given me such

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<v Speaker 1>insights into the people that God has placed in my

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<v Speaker 1>life that it just boggles my mind. It blows my mind.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's to the point now that if we sit

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>down for dinner and I don't have a question or

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Papa doesn't have a question, the kids are like, what,

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 1>what's what's the question? Where's the question? We need the question?

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, you guys come up with the question,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and they've come up with some really good ones. Favorite one, well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you could travel back in time and have a

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>conversation with yourself at twelve, what would you say? Or

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<v Speaker 1>if you could have one meal with anybody in history,

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>who would you choose to have a meal with? Great question,

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, amazing, talk about fun that those meals we'll

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>live in my heart forever because you know, as the

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>is open up and we get busy again, I know

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>we won't have those opportunities. But what a blessing mum. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my gift to you, the meal question. I'm

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>going for that question tonight. If you get have dinner

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<v Speaker 1>with anybody in history, hug with I can't wait to

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>ask my friends up my parting gift to you, And

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you've been so generous with your time and with your

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>love and with your fun. Whenever you're with family or friends,

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>come up with a really good question. What one of

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the questions was, if you could go to Mars, knowing

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you would never get to return to Earth, would you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow? What was your answer? I don't know. Of

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the people at my table, there were nine of us

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>said not just no, but hail no. Why would I

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>leave my family? Yeah? Wow? Yeah? Good? Thank you Piah,

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you got you got my brain spinning. Now, all right,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Annie f Downs any Fun Downs. The book is called

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 1>that Sounds Fun, the same name of the podcast. I

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>imagine if somebody wanted to look you up on Instagram

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:14.479
<v Speaker 1>or Facebook, they would look up Annie f Downs. Yes, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, all right, Thank you go have fun. Thanks,

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. All right, bubbye, sweetheart. Right talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Annie f As in Fun Downs was indeed fun.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I can understand why she's considered an expert on the

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>topic of fun. Her voice bubbling over with enthusiasm, personality,

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and she had some very solid information to back up

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>her assertion that we need we need fun in our lives.

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Like Annie said, we need to make time for fun

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>by actually putting it on our calendar. Prioritizing it just

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>as you would a business meeting, a dentist appointment, a

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>school conference. Another tip she shared that I appreciated, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know this to be true, is that hobbies making,

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 1>doing things with your hands, creating helps to put our

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>over active mind at ease. Coloring those coloring books they

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>make that have such beautiful pictures and are whimsical, those

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>put your mind at ease right away. And finally, my

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:28.240
<v Speaker 1>favorite takeaway from this whole conversation, give yourself necessary breaks

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<v Speaker 1>from the electronics, necessary breaks from texting, emailing, scrolling, going

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:40.720
<v Speaker 1>on social media. Resist the temptation. Instead, pick up a book,

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>take a walk, talk to a friend that remember what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be engaged with the real, the tangible,

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<v Speaker 1>the authentic world, and be yourself. These experiences, the things

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 1>you do with your hands, the things you make, the

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 1>conversations you have with your kids so much better than

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>anything you're going to find on Twitter. It truly is,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gave us the information we need. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find her podcast or her books by the same name.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds fun. I encourage you to spend a little

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<v Speaker 1>time gathering ideas and inspiration. I also got to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>you to join me every single night on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>as I play your request and dedications and find all

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<v Speaker 1>of my podcast loves Someone, where I will continue my mission,

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<v Speaker 1>my unending mission of shining a light in your direction

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<v Speaker 1>to help dispel some of the darkness, and maybe, just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll have a whole lot of fun.