1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Hey there everyone, Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast, 2 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: brought to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris. 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: It is time to take an early look at the 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: week fourteen NFL odds and with me to talk about 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: it all is Matt Parral, host of Pushing the Odds 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: on Espionation Radio and The Better Network and one of 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: my favorite podcasts covering the number. You can find them 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Sports Talk Matt. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Matt. Thank you for joining me today. How's it going? 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: Thank you for the intro. It's going great. Happy thanksgiving 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: up your holidays it to you and everybody. 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Thanks. 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: So you're out in Vegas, right, correct? But you're originally 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: from Boston, is that correct? 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 3: Correct? 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: All right? 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Well, I am out here in New England and I 19 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: can tell you that we are under roughly a foot of. 20 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: Snow at the moment. 21 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: So if you ever want to extend an invite to 22 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: me to come join you out there, I'd be happy 23 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: to meet you because it's getting rough. 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: I always tell people, whatever they're like, so do the heat. 25 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't shovel heat. So I'm Okay with 26 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: July one hundred and fifteen. If I'm avoiding two feet 27 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: of snow in December or in your case early December. 28 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we had to uh schools close today, late 29 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: opening tomorrow. 30 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: It's just joyful. 31 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: So let's talk about something that's going to make us happy, 32 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: and that is each game on the week fourteen NFL Slate. Now, 33 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Matt and I are going to be using the consensus 34 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: odds over at bettingpros dot com. Those are the aggregate 35 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: odds from a variety of sportsbook The lines are going 36 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: to move throughout the week. That's part of what we're 37 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: going to talk about. As bets come in, odds makers 38 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: are going to adjust, So pay close attention in case, 39 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: like us, you particularly like or. 40 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Do not like a line. 41 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: All right, Matt, let's dive in here with the Thursday game, 42 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys visiting the Chicago Bears. Cowboys here laying three with 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: an over under at forty three, both teams coming off 44 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: the minibi. Here with the Thanksgiving games, Bears have to 45 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: come from behind win against a hapless Lions team, while 46 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys get pushed around a bit by the Bills. 47 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Dallas still controls its own destiny in the NFC East. 48 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: The Bears need to basically win out and have some 49 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: How do you feel here looking at it with the 50 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys laying three and the total at forty three. 51 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: Look, I hate both these teams. I think both these 52 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: teams are betting nightmares. But the thing with Dallas is, Look, 53 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: they can control the clock and they can run the 54 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: football with Elliott. So when it comes to betting on 55 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: a road favorite, I don't always hate it with the 56 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: Cowboys because, look, their defense is good enough. The Bears 57 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: defense has been so inconsistent. And Mitchell Trubitsky, I mean, 58 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: I think if you can get this thing under three, 59 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: if it ever goes down to two and a half, 60 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: jump on it. I know there's a book here, and 61 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: there's one book here in Vegas that's got it at 62 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: two and a half. I would love it at two 63 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: and a half. Three, I'm okay with it, but I 64 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: don't love it. I just think Dallas is a mess. 65 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: I do believe they're gonna make a coaching change at 66 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: the end of the year. I think there's gonna be 67 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: some real questions about the future for Dak Prescott. He 68 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: doesn't have the extension, so the team may actually move 69 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: off of him. I mean, the Bears are stuck with Trubitsky. 70 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: I don't believe Matt Nagy is a great football coach, 71 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: a great head coach in the NFL. So I think 72 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: there's potential there for changes in Chicago. So, I mean, 73 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: both these teams I don't think are really gonna do anything. 74 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: But if you have to bet this game, I would 75 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: prefer Cowboys minus two and a half if you can 76 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: get it. 77 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 78 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: For me, the total strikes me as something where I 79 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: might look at the under. I mean, you're gonna be 80 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: in Chicago. I'm sure it's. 81 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: Gonna be windy. You know it's gonna be cold. 82 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Neither of these teams at this point have offenses that 83 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm particularly excited about. The Cowboys obviously have some explosion, 84 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: but the Bears defense has you know, it's taken a 85 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: step back, but it's remained overall solid. A Keem Hicks 86 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: is back to practicing this week, so that's going to 87 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: really help them in the run defense if is able. 88 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: To show up. 89 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: So I have no faith in Mitchell Trubisky to be 90 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: able to move the ball, despite what he did against 91 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: the Lions on Thanksgiving and again the Cowboys right now, 92 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: they just you know, things seem a little disjointed to 93 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: Mark Cooper fighting through injury. So if anything at this 94 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: right now, I lean towards the under, but I don't 95 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: expect this to move all that much either way. Let's 96 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: move on to the Redskins at the Packers. Packers here 97 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: laying a bunch thirteen and a half with the total 98 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: at forty two and a half. So the Packers coming 99 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: off the big and predictable win against the Giants in 100 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: the snow, it really looked like they probably could one 101 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: by forty points if they were so inclined to do so. 102 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: They still don't really look to be hitting on all 103 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: cylinders to me, at least on either side of the ball. 104 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: They're a strong team, not quite as dominant as I 105 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: looked early on. Meanwhile, the Redskins beat the Panthers relying 106 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: primarily on their running game, with Darius Guice and Adrian 107 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Peterson combining for three rushing touchdowns. They will try to 108 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: do the same thing here against the Packers team that 109 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: isn't great against the run. So thirteen and a half 110 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: at home over under a forty two and a half, 111 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: what do you think. 112 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: I opened up at fourteen and a half, it's come down. 113 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: I would love if it goes back up. I doubt 114 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: that's gonna happen. In all honesty, here in the month 115 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: of December. Should anybody be laying two touchdowns? Anybody? I mean, 116 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: I don't care who they are. This is professional football 117 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: late in the year. Your system should be in place, 118 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: your plays should be well known. I mean, it's just 119 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: it's kind of crazy. I mean, there are two lines, 120 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: and I know one's a look ahead line here with 121 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: the Vikings game. We'll get to later with the Lions, 122 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: but anybody, I mean, fourteen is nuts. Thirteen and a 123 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: half is kind of nuts. I mean, this is almost 124 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: an auto fire for me. I don't care who's playing. 125 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: It's a NFL football team putting on a uniform with pros. 126 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: I just think the Redskins, I kinda hold your nose 127 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: and take the points just because. I mean, if if 128 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: the Packers win, the back door could be open in 129 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: this one. I just don't think you can lay this 130 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: many points with anybody in the NFL this late into 131 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: the season. So I know I'll be on the Redskins 132 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: almost just as a system play. Taking the two touchdowns. 133 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: But I mean, the Packers are the right side. They're 134 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: gonna win this game. In my mind, it's just a 135 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: matter of how many points are they gonna win it by. 136 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: And I don't really trust the Packers to blow anybody 137 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: out here unless the weather just is completely disastrous. But 138 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, the Redskins are running the football, so 139 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: krummy weather actually might favor the dog here in this one. 140 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really, I completely agree with you. 141 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: There's no circumstances where I would take the Packers given 142 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: where the spread is at this point. 143 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: But I have such a difficult time. 144 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: Some of these teams with the Redskins, you know, for 145 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: a while with the Dolphins are playing better now, it's 146 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: so difficult to think about Dwayne Haskins going in there 147 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: and scoring any points whatsoever. But I agree, you can't 148 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: take the Packers with this number. It's just too my. 149 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: But I mean, this is probably where I. 150 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Think it would stay, and in the end, there's even 151 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: at this number, there's probably more value on the Redskins, 152 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: but I doubt I'll be able to pull the trigger 153 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: on it. And let's talk about the other game with 154 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: the big spread that you mentioned. The Lions at the Vikings. Currently, 155 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: Vikings are laying thirteen and a half the total at 156 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: forty two and a half. You mentioned we're recording this. 157 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: Actually we started at halftime of the Monday night game. 158 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: So everybody's healthy for now, so that's all we're really 159 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: looking for in the look ahead lines. So we don't 160 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: know what the Vikings are going to come out of, 161 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: assuming they come out healthy. Look, they've been playing extremely 162 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: well on both sides of the ball, generally speaking. Once 163 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: they've opened up the pass offense, even without Adam Feelin, 164 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: they you know, the offense is scary with Dalvin Cook 165 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: back there. For the Lions, it sounds like they're just 166 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: going to have to roll with David Blau at this point. 167 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Triscoll has been placed on ir Stafford is still 168 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: weak to week, but it's highly unlikely you're going to 169 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: see him at least this week. Not overally impressive football team. 170 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: So again, we just talked about it. Addiefield here almost 171 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, thirteen and a half over under at forty 172 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: two and a half. Are you taking the Lions? Are 173 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: you gonna buye the ball? 174 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, system play. I mean it's it's December. The 175 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: Detroit defense. I mean, I know it's a third string quarterback, 176 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: but again, I don't think you can lay fourteen points 177 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: with anybody. And we'll see what happens with the Vikings 178 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: and whether this line changes at all, if there's an 179 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: injury or something, if you know, Cousins were to get 180 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: hurt or something in the second half of the game 181 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: against the Seattle Seahawks. But it is a again, in December, 182 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: we're talking about two teams. These teams know each other. 183 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: I mean that this is not a situation where I'm 184 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: comfortable laying two touchdowns and two dome teams playing in 185 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: a dome. I know the Vikings defense is ferocious and 186 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: tough to play at home, and the lines may have 187 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: a difficult time scoring. So maybe the under is a 188 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: better play with that one. You know, at forty two 189 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: and a half, it's not the you know, anywhere near forty. 190 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: I get nervous for unders. But I still think the 191 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: dog is the side, just because it's too many. But 192 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: it's two touchdowns, my goodness, fourteen points. It's crazy at 193 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: this one. 194 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I honestly feel a little better about the Lions because 195 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: there's still I. 196 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: Mean, a competent football team. 197 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, blow isn't it's certainly far from impressive, but 198 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: they have playmakers at least on offense, you know, you know, 199 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: with Kenny Galladay. Marvin Jones is still there. I mean, 200 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: they did just place T. J. Alkinson on IR, so 201 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: they are you know, dropping like flies a little bit. 202 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: But I you know, same thing basically as the last game. 203 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: There's no way I'm taking the Vikings. 204 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: In this game. There's just no way. 205 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean that the spreads and it's a divisional game 206 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: of all things, right, that two teams know each other well. 207 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: So I agree that, you know, sort of grudgingly, I 208 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: would take the Lions if I had to choose a side, 209 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: but it's probably a game and I'm going to stay 210 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: away from Let's movan go ahead. 211 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: Sorry, it's it's a no play I mean, both those 212 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: games are no play games. I mean to be quite honest. 213 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: But you know, if you're if you're looking at you 214 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 3: gotta play it. If if you if both these teams 215 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: are left in your pick them in your in your 216 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: survival pool or something, and you got to go ahead 217 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: and play and play one of them. But I think 218 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: the dog is desided to be on. 219 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on here to the Panthers at 220 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Falcons here are currently laying two and a 221 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: half in our consensus odds with a high total of 222 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: forty eight. The Panthers just try ending in the wrong 223 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: direction here. They lose to the Redskins. Kyle Allen is 224 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: showing very clearly that he is not the long term 225 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: mantar quarterback for the Panthers. That defense has started to struggle. Meanwhile, 226 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: after a brief resurgence, the Falcons have come back down 227 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: to earth in their past two games, latest one against 228 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: the Saints on Thanksgiving. There is some optimism that Julio 229 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: Jones is going to return here. It sounds like they'll 230 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: get their right guard, Chris Linstrom back. It's a divisional 231 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: game between two teams. Both of them are out of it. 232 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: What do you think Falcons under a field goal two 233 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: and a half over under at forty eight. 234 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: You know, the Falcons are the weirdest team in the 235 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: NFL because so many professional betters them men the Lions. Really, 236 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: professional betters have been on both these teams all year long, 237 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: and whether whatever the number was, they've been taking them, 238 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: betting them, and they've been burned consistently. But they don't care. 239 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: They keep on going back to the well. And then 240 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: last week they almost got depending on where you got 241 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: the number opened up at nine and a half. It 242 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: was bet all over down to six and a half 243 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: against the Saints and they have those crazy, ridiculous on 244 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: side kicks, and you know, I'm watching it in a 245 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: bar in San Francisco and somehow I stumbled onto a 246 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: Saints bar with my brother. We were like, where the 247 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: hell are we in San Francisco, But it was you know, 248 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: they were throwing up in their beer because of how 249 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: here come the Falcons and so many of them, A 250 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: bunch of them had nine plus and minus nine and 251 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: to throwing their you know, there's really angry and the 252 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: fact that the team can't cover the line, and it 253 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: is it is tough to take Carolina here simply because 254 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: Kyle Allen, as you mentioned, is regressing so fast and 255 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: it is wild to see some of these guys who 256 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: we thought were going to be taking the jobs of 257 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: you know, former MVPs and oh my goodness, how in 258 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: the world, you know, Cam Newton should be on the 259 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: trading block and now everyone's like, well, wait a minute, 260 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: maybe we should keep Cam Newton. Maybe this Kyle Allen 261 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: guy is not actually you know, maybe he was undrafted 262 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: for a reason. So this has been a weird couple 263 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: of weeks for certain quarterbacks. To Kobe Brisett hasn't played well, 264 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: you know, coming in to replace Andrew Luck with the Colts. 265 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: I if I'm gonna take a side here, I think 266 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: you gotta take the Falcons because dan Quinn's coaching for 267 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: his job, and I think he has a defense that's 268 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: you know, playing at least competently, and the offense is 269 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: still you know, there's still better playmakers right now on 270 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: the Atlanta offense than the Carolina offense overall. I know 271 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: McCaffrey is an amazing player, but they're really one dimensional. 272 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: If you can stop the run, you can stop the Panthers. 273 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: So I'll probably if you can get it at one 274 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: or even a pick, I would take Atlanta. The movements 275 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: on the Falcons right now, some books here in Vegas 276 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: are uped all the way to all up to three, 277 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 3: So I'll lay the points. I don't want to go 278 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: over three here, but I will lay the points to 279 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: the Falcons. 280 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent agree. I'm not going to a 281 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: field goal if you can get it. Our consensus odds 282 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: are two and a half. I take it at that point. 283 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean the Panthers to me, just look click a 284 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: team that's about ready to mail it in. I'm sure 285 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is going to be done. You know they 286 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: have playmakers. DJ Moore is one of my favorite players 287 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: in football. Christian McCaffrey is awesome. But you know, the 288 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: one thing is we all called for dan Quinn to 289 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: be fired for several weeks and then the team, Look, 290 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: they play hard. They may not get it done, but 291 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: they are playing hard. And if Julio Jones comes back, 292 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: I you know understand that he could easily shut it 293 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: down just because you know it's a lost season. He's struggling, 294 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: but he's a gamer. He wants to play. I think 295 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna put up a good effort here at home. 296 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: So if you can get it under a field goal, 297 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I would lay the points. Once 298 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: you get up to three and the key number, I 299 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: get a little nervous. 300 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, but it also I am curious what 301 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: happened during the bye for the Falcons because something changed. 302 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: I don't know who said what to whom, but they 303 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: came out much different. They won those two games right 304 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: out right off the bye. You know something, at least 305 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: dan Quinn showed signs of life with his team more 306 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: than other coaches, so that may have kept his job. 307 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, everybody was calling 308 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: for him to be fired, couldn't believe he wasn't. And 309 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: then somehow they come out and they put up these 310 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: two kind of really big performances, particularly defensively. So it's 311 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: good to see. I mean, it's good to see them 312 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: putting in the effort. And that's really why, because I 313 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: feel like the Panthers are three seconds away from just 314 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: being like, all right, we're done. We'll just you know, 315 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: go through the motions. Ronovero will be gone, We'll find 316 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: a new quarterback and we'll move on there. 317 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: Forty nine ers at the Saints. 318 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Ooh, this is a good one, Matt Saints slaying three. 319 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Currently in our consensus odds over under at forty four 320 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: and a half, forty nine ers is a very tough 321 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: game in the right whether to Baltimore. They remain one 322 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: of the strongest all around teams in the NFL, as 323 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: do the Saints, though their offense is not quite clicking 324 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: right now. You know, they're more relying on their defense. 325 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: They are home here, so laying the field, go, what 326 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: do you think Saints playing three total at forty four 327 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: and a half. 328 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: You know, this is the stretch for the forty nine 329 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: ers where we get to know and find out a 330 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 3: lot about them. So you know a lot of their 331 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: wins early in the year were against teams like the 332 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: Redskins and the Bengals and the Box and the Panthers, 333 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: and it's kind of like, all right, they're running through 334 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: some people, and then they get beat by the Seahawks 335 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, Seahawks. They turn around and they 336 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: have a tough game against the Cardinals. They have that 337 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: ridiculous you know, depending where you got the line, but 338 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: that lineman for the Cardinals chucking the ball in the 339 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: end zone lately either a push at ten or maybe 340 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: you had a ten and a half like I did. 341 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: You won, But that game was ridiculous that the review 342 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: never happened. We all learned a lesson about instant replay 343 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: at the end of that game. And sports gamblers, look, 344 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: you should review every scoring play. I don't care when 345 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 3: it is okay if you're taking money, and the NFL 346 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: is in bed with sports books. What the hell are 347 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 3: you doing that review that play? That's got to be Yes, 348 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm still mad and bitter about that. But then you 349 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: go Packers, Ravens, Saints, right, I mean, you're starting to 350 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: get into into this. You know, you're going all right, 351 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: you know, And this is the last game here on 352 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: the road at New Orleans. They end with the Falcons 353 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: Rams and at the Seahawks. I this is a big 354 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: game for the Saints. This is a big game for 355 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: them to kind of get back up into the home 356 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: field homefield advantage conversation. This is hard for me. I mean, 357 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: I think the forty nine ers are the better team, 358 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: but I think at home in the Dome, I think 359 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: this is a monster game for the Saints, a chance 360 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: to kind of send a message. I'm okayle in three 361 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: here and taking New Orleans and and and I think 362 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: it could be back to back losses for the forty 363 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: nine er. It's in particular Jimmy Garoppolo on the road 364 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: in the Dome. Uh oh, I'm petrified about some some 365 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: turnovers and interceptions and mistakes from Garoppolo that might lead 366 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: to the victory for the Saints. So I'm gonna lay 367 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: the three points here. This is a game I probably 368 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: will play with New Orleans at home. 369 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think think I'm gonna play it. If 370 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: I had to pick a side, I would take the Saints. Actually, 371 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: what I kind of like here, by the way, depending 372 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: on what happens to night, and you know, we at halftime, 373 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: we don't know if the Seews are gonna win. 374 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers might be looking. 375 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: At the five seed right now, especially if they don't win, 376 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: So they're gonna be desperate just as well both teams. 377 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: It's just it's a wonderful game rightly, just to watch 378 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: because both teams are good teams. Both teams are going 379 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: to be desperate for the win. The thing I like 380 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: a little bit is I lean a little bit towards 381 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: the under. It's forty four and a half. It's not 382 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: a huge number, but you know, the Saints do not 383 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: turn the ball over ever, and you know they're on 384 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: pace right now with potentially the lowest amount of turnovers 385 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: I think for any team in the NFL ever, maybe 386 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: unless I misread that, but in the end, I think 387 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers defense, you know they're opportunistic right, 388 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: they cause turnovers, the forty nine Ers get some short fields, 389 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: are able to score. I think with the lack of that, 390 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: with the Saints tough defense, and again the forty nine 391 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: ers strong defense, Saints offense is not what it once was. 392 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: I kind of see. 393 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: This as a close, low scoring game. I don't think 394 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: either team. I agree with what you said about Garoppolo. 395 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: So to me, the under is the even though it's 396 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: not a huge number, it sticks out to me as 397 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: maybe the play that I would like more than the total. 398 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: I just I feel like, man, I don't have both 399 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: these teams are just gonna be absolutely not desperate for 400 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: this win. 401 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: So it makes me a little nervous. 402 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: It could be a I mean, there could be an 403 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: NFTY Championship preview. I mean the heat, the heat is 404 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: definitely on Garoppolo here, and you know, to go into 405 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: a hostile environment and play well and not turn the 406 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: football over. I just think that the Saints in that 407 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: home field advantage. I'm always it's kind of like the 408 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: Patriots in Foxborough. If I'm looking at three or less 409 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: and it's a quality Saints team, I have a tough 410 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: time saying they're not gonna win that game out right. 411 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's a little preview of what you're gonna be 412 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: thinking when we get to the Patriots game later then. 413 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: But first, let's get to the Bengals at the Browns. 414 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: Browns here are currently laying eight and a half, the 415 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: total at forty and a half. This has moved significantly 416 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: from the Look headline. From what I could see, it 417 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: looks like the Look headline was seven and a half. 418 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: It's eight and a half. The total was forty three 419 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: from what I'm seeing, and now it's forty and a half. 420 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Let's just break up the Bengals here. They beat up 421 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: on my hapless Jets. Andy Dalton understand they should get 422 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: John Ross back. They add another layer to their passing offense. 423 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: The offensive line is a little bit healthier, you know. 424 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: All the Browns los a tough one to the Steelers. 425 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield bangs up his hand. He's supposed to be fine. 426 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: Didn't have his best day against an admittedly tough defense. 427 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: How do you feel here about the Browns laying eight 428 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: and a half with the total at forty and a half? 429 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: Just a clown show for the Jets. By the way, 430 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: how do you lose that game. I mean, this is 431 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: just not that's the Jets. That's just the Jets. You 432 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: just can't lose that game. I mean, there's just absolutely nothing. 433 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: You can't lose that game. 434 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Yes, when you score thirty four points in three straight games, 435 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: you're bound to just put up six against a tough 436 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: defense like the Bengals. Man, I mean, get on board. 437 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: This is my life, by the way. It's a Jets fan. 438 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: It's fun to do it, by the way, in the 439 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: betting context, so that I can have betters who sort 440 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: of want to back the Jets understand what my life 441 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: has been like for the last forties or so years. 442 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I had just some typical for fun 443 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: things going and I'm like, yeah, I'll just throw the 444 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: Jets game in there, you know, for the hell of 445 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: it on a money line. They're not gonna what like, 446 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: how do you lose that game? Just my I mean 447 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 3: my fall for not you know, expecting the Jets to 448 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: be the Jets. But you know that this is a 449 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: I mean, the Browns are the side right because the 450 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 3: Browns are five and seven, they're fighting for a playoff opportunity. 451 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: They're probably not gonna make it, but you know, they 452 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: they've got to end this year on an upswing after 453 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: all the nastiness and all the crap they've gone through. 454 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not a very big Baker Mayfield fan anymore. 455 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 3: I like guys that you know who kind of go 456 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: quietly through the NFL. And sure, he's being offered contracts 457 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: to do commercials and whatnot. So I would say yes 458 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: to it too if I was getting paid that much money. 459 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: But you know, it's really put a big bulls out 460 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: on his back, and he's not lived up to the 461 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: hype by any means. But you know, if they end 462 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: the year and they wound up eight and eight till 463 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: they wind up nine and seven, I think the Browns 464 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: can save some face here. But you know, the Bengals. 465 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: This is a classic fate spot, right because the Bengals 466 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: get their first win. Zach Taylor, who is the worst 467 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 3: coach in the NFL. He's thirty six years old. I 468 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: harp on this all the time. Kid never should have 469 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 3: gotten the job. I covered him at Nebraska. Bill Callahan 470 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: shouldn't be a head coach. Zach shouldn't be a head coach. 471 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 3: They're both head coaches in the NFL right now, which 472 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: is absolutely ridiculous, But fade the Bengals for the rest 473 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: of the year, and look, eight and a half's a 474 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: little high, but as long as you're not going near 475 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: double digits, I think the Browns of the safe side. 476 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I think the Bengals got 477 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: their win and now they're good to just sort of 478 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: sit back and enjoy it. And again, their win was 479 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: as kind of you alluded to, far less about them 480 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: and much more about the Jets. 481 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: So I agree with you here. 482 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: I think the Browns bounce back in a big time 483 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: when and if you can get it for under double digits. 484 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: Look, you knew, I mean that game. 485 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: You knew they were going to go in there, there's 486 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: all the bad blood. You knew that they were just 487 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: going to put up a stinker offensively going into there. 488 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 2: It was really whether or. 489 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: Not Duck Hodge was going to be able to put 490 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: up any points, and he did just enough. But I 491 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: agree with you here. I think the Browns are going 492 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: to be you know, whatever faint playoff hopes that they 493 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: still have, I think they're going to come through here 494 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: and keep it going with a big win again under 495 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: double digits. Completely agree with you. It is a big line, 496 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: but for me, I'm okay with it. Let's move on 497 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: to the Colts at the Bucks, Buck here are currently 498 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: laying two and a half with the over under at 499 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: forty seven and a half. Again, both of these have 500 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: moved from what I can tell from the look ahead, 501 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: it was Bucks laying three and a half and the 502 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: total at fifteen and a half. So down there, Colt's 503 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: starting to fall apart. At the seams here, they're dealing 504 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: with a ton of injuries on the offensive side, including 505 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: Marlon Mack and t Y Hilton, though at least Mack 506 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: may return in this game, although not sure he'll be 507 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 1: able to do all that much against the bucks vaunted 508 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: run defense. They like to run the ball. That's tough 509 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: to do against the Bucks. I mean, while the Bucks 510 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: they come up with a strong win against Jacksonville, you 511 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: know they're going to be able to move the ball 512 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: with Jameis Winston. You know there's going to be at 513 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: least one critical turnover, and you know that their pass 514 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: defense is pretty weak. So how do you feel here 515 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: under a field goal? Bucks laying two and a half 516 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: at home total at forty seven and a half. 517 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this team was holding things together post 518 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: Andrew luck retirement with a lot of hope and optimism, 519 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: and I think their will got broken last week. I 520 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: don't know how three guys get through the line of 521 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: scrimmage to block Adam Vinteri's kick, but they somehow managed 522 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: to do it, and then I only blocked the damn thing. 523 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: They returned it for a touchdown and ended the game. 524 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: And then Ryan Tannehill all of a sudden has just 525 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: I mean he is wally pipped Marcus Mariota. I mean, 526 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you are not going back to Marcus Mariota 527 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: unless Tannehill just throws up all over himself. With the 528 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: way he's passing him. He's the best quarterback in the 529 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: division right now. And that's I know Watson is there, 530 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: but this means on paper, Ryan Tannehill is the best 531 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: quarterback in the division. So I don't understand what's going 532 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: on with the Colts, but I think everything, including the injuries, 533 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: I think t Y Hilton's done. I mean they thought 534 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: he was done if you go back, and not to 535 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: combine basketball and football, but remember when Kevin Durant had 536 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 3: the calf injury and they thought it was a it 537 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: was a calf. It was a calf, and it turned 538 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: into a into a pretty significant injury to his achilles. Well, 539 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: this goes back to a statement that was made to 540 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: me by an injury expert on my radio show, where 541 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 3: he said, there is no right now, there's no scientific 542 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: data that determines when the calf ends and where the 543 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: achilles begins. So if it's somewhere in that range, it 544 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: might be both. And I think that's what t Wise got, 545 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: and he's gotten achilles. I think that they're going to 546 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: shut him down and not risk it for or long 547 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: term injury, much like what happened with Kevin Durant coming 548 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: back and finally snapping the damn thing. So I think 549 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 3: t Y is gonna be done. I don't know if 550 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: they rushed back back. I mean, the dude had a 551 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: broken hand, he had surgery, he's trying to play on it. 552 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: So I think this is a team that just is 553 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 3: too banged up in the wake of Andrew luck. I 554 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: on the road at Tampa, I can't back Indianapolis here. 555 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: I think Tampa Bay, even though they're five and seven 556 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 3: at home, I think the Colts might be toast and 557 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: I think the Buccaneers of the side. 558 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything you're saying is correct. And they also lost 559 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: Erik key Brown, Let's not forget that. So they're really 560 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: down offensively. And you know, Hilton was not only battling 561 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: the cav injury, but early in this season he was 562 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: battling the quad injury, so he's really been dealing with. 563 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: A lot of stuff. I agree with you. 564 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: If there is a side, I think it's the Bucks, 565 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: particularly under three, but I'm not willing to risk it. 566 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: I've lost too much money on the Bucks this season, 567 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: you know, going on. 568 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: It's just one of these things where I don't know. 569 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: I could see certainly them coming out in Winston just 570 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: throwing like two pick sixes or something, but I can't. 571 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: You can't back the Cults at this point. They also, 572 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Frank Reich, you know, is one of, if 573 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: not the best coach in the NFL. 574 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: I won't, of course, you're Bill Belichick. 575 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: I want you know bad about that, but you know, 576 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: Reig is great. 577 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: He's gonna hold them together enough. 578 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: But I just don't think they have the talent at 579 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: this point to keep it going, especially with the division 580 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: slipping away from them. 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The Broncos look they 617 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: took one from the Chargers, but Drew Locke was hardly impressive. 618 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: The defense continues to play, you know, fine, as well 619 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: as they can the Texans, though, you know that's the 620 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: big story. They really took it to your Patriots on 621 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. The secondary is healthier they're playing well. 622 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: They've got all their wide receivers healthy. How do you 623 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: feel here about a big number nine and a half 624 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: with the total of forty one and a half? 625 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: Fade the Houston Texans. This is one of my favorite 626 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: plays of the week. All right, Look the Broncos. They 627 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: have covered for the last five weeks. The Broncos defense, 628 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: with Vic Fangio really maligned for most of the season, 629 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: they have come around. I know the offense has got 630 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: some real issues, but they've got two very good running backs. Look, 631 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: this number is approaching double digits. I'm sorry, No way 632 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 3: are the Texans. No way should they be laying ten, 633 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: ten points, nine and a half points. The Broncos might 634 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: be four and eight, but they've got a lot of 635 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: fight in them, and they got a lot of pride 636 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: with some great veterans on that defensive side of the football. 637 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: Texans are gonna win the game, I think, But I 638 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: think they're gonna be in for an absolute war here 639 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: with the Broncos. Give me the points plus nine and 640 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: a half with the Broncos. I love it, and I 641 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: would even wait because I think the public's gonna come 642 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: in with both fists on the Texans. It's it's classic, 643 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: what have you done for me lately? I think the 644 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: Texans it's recency bias, Broncos plus ten or more. Give 645 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: it to me, it's Denver all day. 646 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: Man. 647 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: I was legitimately, I was about to jump in with 648 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: if you do like the Texans, just don't bet it yet, 649 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: because there's the the I mean, I think this is 650 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna be probably the game where there's gonna be the 651 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: biggest differential between the number of bets that are placed 652 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: and the money that's actually placed. Right because the sharp 653 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: betters are gonna come in. They're gonna take the points. 654 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: That Texans have a thing where they like to just 655 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: sort of lay an egg right after you start to 656 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: dress them. This is the prime spot for them. That's 657 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: a huge win. This is gonna be a massive letdown 658 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: for them. 659 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: So I agree. 660 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you know, we've moved from eight to 661 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: nine and a half. I'm sure that movement is not 662 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: done yet. The public, especially on a you know, a 663 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: nationally televised game beating the Patriots, they're gonna pound the 664 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: Texans up at least another half point, if not you know, 665 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: a full point, a point and a half something like that. 666 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: So it's gonna get larger. So if you like the Texans, diagree, 667 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: is the right side. If you like the Broncos, I'm sorry, 668 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: which I agree is the right side in this game. 669 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't feel as confident quite as you do, just because, man, 670 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: I watched that Broncos game closely, and you know, Courtland 671 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Sutton is incredible, but Drew Locke really just you know, 672 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, I didn't see all that much 673 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: of a difference between him and you know, David Blau 674 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: basically when when they first came out and stuff like that. 675 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure his career will be a little brighter. So 676 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: it makes me a little nervous. But I agree sharp 677 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: side is certainly the Broncos. But I would wait. I'd 678 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: wait because I do think, as you said, that the 679 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: spread is going to continue to rise. Let's move on 680 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: here to the Dolphins at the Jets. 681 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 2: Jets who he needs to Yes, we have to. 682 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: I am contractually obligated to discuss every game on this slate. 683 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Jets laying six total of forty four. The Dolphins with 684 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: the big win over the Eagles, they led primarily by 685 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and Devonte Parker. They continue to play hard 686 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: despite an immense lack of talent. 687 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: While we have. 688 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: Talked about the Jets, they squander all their goodwill a 689 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: lifeless performance there. They scored just six points. Jamal Adams 690 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: also hurts his angle. His status is a little bit unclear. 691 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: Dolphins won the last game these two teams played, and 692 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 1: now they're getting six points. 693 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: How do you feel here? 694 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 3: Look, this is Dolphins football in December in New England 695 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: slash New York. All right, this is fade Dolphin City 696 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: in particular after their win. I mean, this is a 697 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: game I'm going to play. I'm going to be on 698 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: your Jets, and I love it that it's under a 699 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 3: touchdown here. I don't like it at six and a 700 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: half or seven, but at six I think you gotta 701 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: roll with the Jets here. And look, the weather will 702 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: watch it. I mean nor'easter is blasting through New England. 703 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: We'll see what the backside of that looks like. Normally 704 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: it's a cold front that makes it frigid. So if 705 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: that's happening, you've got Dolphin football players who just are 706 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: basking in all that Miami sunshine and their victory, their 707 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: third win, which was monstrous for the books, that had 708 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: that at one and a half or two for a 709 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: win total for Miami. So now they're at three. So 710 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: here they go up to New York. Jets got embarrassed. Look, 711 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: I don't think Adam Gay should be a head coach 712 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: in the NFL. He was bad in Miami, but this 713 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: is a rivalry game for him. He mentioned the first loss. 714 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: I just think the Jets are gonna play for pride here. 715 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: Not much of it with the Jets this year, but 716 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: I think this is a pride game for the Jets 717 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: and they do wind up winning and covering. 718 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct. All of what you said is correct. 719 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: The Jets are gonna win the game. They're going to 720 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: cover it. This is what the Jet and Adam Gay 721 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: should not be a head coach. Everything you said I 722 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: will double down on. Yeah, No, I completely agree. 723 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: This is what the Jets do. 724 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: If you trust them, they're certainly going to break your 725 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: heart and put up a complete stinker. It has been 726 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: my entire life as a Jets fan. But this is 727 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: also what they're gonna do. It's gonna be a game 728 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: where some people are gonna look at look that people 729 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: are gonna like the Dolins. It's not gonna get back 730 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: up to seven. By the way, I think the look 731 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: headline might have been seven. It's not gonna get back 732 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: up there. It's gonna stay below the touchdown, in which 733 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: case I will be all over the Jets as well. 734 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna bounce back in this game. They're not nearly 735 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: as bad as they look. Sam Darnold's gonna have a 736 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: good game. Le'Veon Bell is gonna probably have his last 737 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: hurrah before the Lake. You don't really want to face 738 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens or any like that. Let's just you know, 739 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: relax you here. So I agree, this is gonna be 740 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: a big game. I think the Jets are going to 741 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: come out and play well. 742 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: So if you can stomach. 743 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: It, I agree the Jets at the right side, and 744 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: I'll certainly be playing it this weekend. Let's move on 745 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: to the Ravens at the Bills. 746 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: A really good game. 747 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: Here, Ravens laying five down from six and the total 748 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: at forty three and a half. This is gonna be 749 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: a fun one. It's in Buffalo, both teams coming off 750 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: big wins. The Ravens win against the forty nine ers 751 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: in the nasty weather. They continue to hit on all cylinders. 752 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: They've got the top seed now, as you know in 753 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: the AFC. Meanwhile, the Bills, look, they make a statement 754 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. They are on the pats heels. They 755 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: are headed home. That is a very difficult place to play. 756 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: But their achilles heel is the run. That's what the 757 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: Ravens strength is. So how do you feel here about 758 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens laying five with the total at forty three 759 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: and a half. 760 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: All right, So this has been a ongoing Twitter battle 761 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: I've been having with Bills mafia because I don't believe 762 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: the Bills are any good. And so last week I 763 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: had a bunch of people say, Okay, if we beat 764 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: the Cowboys, will you finally acknowledge that the Bills are good? 765 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, this game in primetime, you beat the 766 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: Cowboys on the road, I'm gonna say, yes, the Bills 767 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: are good. So the Bills win that game. So they 768 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: showed it. They showed me a little bit that they've 769 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: got more going on to maybe I'm giving them credit for. However, 770 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: if the Ravens lose to the Buffalo bleeping Bills, okay, 771 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna lose my mind. This game should be a blowout. 772 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: The Ravens should take the Bills behind the woodshed and 773 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: beat the living tar out of them coming up. So 774 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: if this game is even close in the fourth quarter, 775 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: I will be irate. So the Ravens should kill Buffalo, 776 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 3: and as a Patriot fan, I need the help. Okay, 777 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: So I need to bleed the breathing room here because 778 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: the chief game, which we'll get to here in a second, 779 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: I need the help. So Ravens big it. It better 780 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: happen because if it doesn't, I'm gonna hear it, and 781 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a lot of explaining to do it 782 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: at my hatred of Bill's mafia in the Buffalo Bills. 783 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, a lot of Ravens players listen to this podcast, 784 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: so you're in luck that they're gonna be all fired 785 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: up now you've got them ready to go. Look, I look, 786 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've been agreeing with you a lot on 787 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: this podcast by but I'm not going to pretend that 788 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't. Just to make it, you know, sort of 789 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: a fun show. 790 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: I agree. 791 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: I've been fading the Bills a lot this year, and 792 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: it hasn't really worked out for me all that well, 793 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: They've they've just continued. I had a nice big preseason 794 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: bet on them. I think there were six and a 795 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: half wins. I thought they'd sail over that. But you 796 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: know this, they're They're better than I expected. But look, 797 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: I do not think that they were in the Ravens class. 798 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, realistically, you can beat the Bills pretty handily 799 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: on the ground. That's a real big Achilles heel, and 800 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: that is what the Ravens are going to do. And 801 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: they're just they're unstoppable. 802 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: At the moment. 803 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, the Bills will be able 804 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: to put up some points, but realistically, Josh Allen, you know, 805 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: continues he hasn't thrown them any picks, but he's, you know, 806 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: hardly the most accurate quarterback. The Ravens can stop the run. 807 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't think John Brown's gonna be able to do 808 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: all that much. I just don't see the Bills really 809 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: being able to hang with this team, so especially getting 810 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: it under a touchdown. Yeah, I'm all over it. I'm 811 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: certainly going to be in on it right now. I 812 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: think you're on the right side. But again, you know, 813 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: Ravens players, all of you guys who are listening to 814 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: Matt's big on this. He needs the help, So get 815 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: on it there. Let's move on to the Chargers that 816 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Chargers here are laying two and a half 817 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: the over under at forty three and a half. If 818 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: you can back the Chargers in any game, you're probably 819 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: a better man than I am. Both these teams look 820 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: dead in the water. Philip Rivers just looks dune. 821 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: See. 822 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: The offense is stagnant, the defense is far from imposing. 823 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: Ditto with the Jaguars. 824 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: They're going to turn back here to Gardner Minsho has 825 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: already been announced after the Nick Bolls run goes nowhere. 826 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: They do have pieces on offense, but they're not explosive. 827 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: Their run defense is highly beatable. So how do you 828 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: feel here about the Chargers on the road laying two 829 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: and a half of the total of forty three and 830 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: a half. 831 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: See this is why sports gambling is so necessary for football, 832 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: because there is nothing about this game that's attractive. There's 833 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: nothing about this game that's interesting. Both these teams suck. 834 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: Both these teams are boring. Both these teams blow games 835 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: like crazy. They turn the ball over crazy. Philip rivers career, 836 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 3: for all intentsive purposes, is over. Okay, correct, and he 837 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 3: might be back next year because they're moving in to 838 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: a new stadium, But this Charger team is not gonna 839 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: do anything. I'm with you. I don't know how you 840 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: back the Chargers. I think the Jaguars have quit, but 841 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: I think the La Chargers also have quit. I mean, 842 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: they just lost to the Broncos. I just don't I 843 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: just can't get behind either one of these two teams. 844 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: If I'm gonna play it, I probably would play the 845 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: under because I don't think either team wants to be 846 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 3: a part of this game. So forty three and a half, 847 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 3: I probably will say it's like a twenty to seventeen 848 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: type of victory for one of these two teams. But 849 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: this is a disgusting game between two teams I have 850 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: no interest in watching. 851 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm avoiding this game entirely because I'm not going 852 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: to be forced to have an interest in this game, 853 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 1: where otherwise I could just enjoy many other games. Yeah, 854 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: there's no way i'd back either one of these teams, 855 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: regardless of the spread. You could do whatever you want. 856 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: I'm just staying far away from it. On the spread, yeah, 857 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: I agree. If there is a play, it's probably the 858 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: under at forty three and a half because I think 859 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: both teams are gonna heavily rely on the run. I 860 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: mean that's where you attack the Jaguars, so you'll see 861 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: a lot of Melvin Gordon, and I think you know 862 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: that they've committed to giving Leonard Fournette a ton of carries, 863 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: So that's going to eat up into the clock. That's 864 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: going to have longer drives, and so I think probably 865 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: the under is the play, if there is one. But 866 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm just avoiding it all together and I'm going to 867 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: be a happier man for it. Let's move on to 868 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: the Titans at the Raiders. Titans here are laying three 869 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: with a total of forty seven and a half. Two 870 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: teams head in opposite directions. Here. 871 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: You mentioned it earlier. 872 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is playing about as well as any quarterback 873 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL right now. I mean, it's good to see. 874 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not this is the same 875 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: guy that was in Miami and he just needed to 876 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: get out of there, but he's playing like really, really 877 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: really solid football. Not just the fact that they're winning. 878 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, his passes are crisp, they are accurateies fitting 879 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: it into tight windows. He's just playing extremely well, and 880 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: then it's getting colder and no one really wants to 881 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: tackle Derek Henry, so their offense is clicking on all cylinders. 882 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: The defense remains solid. Meanwhile, the Raiders record is finally 883 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: catching up to their point differential. They've had a brutal 884 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: schedule with all the road games. Derek Carr never plays 885 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: well in the cold, as it has been shown recently. 886 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: But they are going back to Oakland here things seem 887 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: to be falling apart a bit. It struck me as 888 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: I thought the spread would climb higher toward the Titans, 889 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: but right now they're laying three with a total of 890 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: forty seven and a half. 891 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're owned three the last three games against the spread, 892 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: going back to that win over the Bengals where they 893 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: didn't cover, and then they've scored twelve points in the 894 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: last two weeks. The loss to the Jets was the 895 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 3: real eye opener, losing thirty four to three on the road, 896 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: and you know that that's just kind of you can 897 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: excuse the loss to the Chiefs. And you know, the 898 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 3: second of the weather forecast came out, you know, I 899 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: you know, here in Vegas we get a lot of 900 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 3: Raiders stuff because they're moving here next year. So you 901 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 3: know Derek Carr's record when the temperature is below forty 902 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: it's pretty well documented. So I you know, I laid 903 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: the eleven points pretty quickly with the Chiefs once I 904 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: saw the weather forecast for the game, and you know that, 905 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, it was over pretty much up to the 906 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 3: first quarter and turnovers, fumbles, interceptions, it was just really ugly. 907 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: I I really don't know what to make of the 908 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: Raiders except that if I'm gonna bet this, I think 909 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: the Titans are the side. They're alive in the division. 910 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 3: They've got a defense that travels, they can run the football, 911 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: and I feel like the Raiders are starting to kind 912 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 3: of mail it in. He mentioned all the travel. I 913 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 3: think they're getting a little tired of John Gruden, and 914 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: I don't really know what Gruden thinks again of Derek Carr. So, 915 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: I mean, things are not going well with the offense. 916 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 3: They're not moving the football the way they used to. 917 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 3: And look, Jacobs is a phenomenal rookie. You only had 918 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: an a one hundred yard game basically last week. But 919 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 3: you know, they just are Injuries are catching up to them. 920 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 3: Raiders are gonna be an interesting team for the next 921 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: couple of years because I do like the young Corps, 922 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: but injuries and I just don't think they're that good. 923 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: I think the Titans on the right side here, even 924 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 3: though it's a road road favorite here. 925 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: No, absolutely, I laying three. I'm all over the Titans. Absolutely, 926 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: I'd probably feel fine with it up to four, maybe 927 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: even four and a half. I think they're they're gonna 928 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: have a big game here. 929 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 2: I agree. 930 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: I look the Raiders, you know, they they the future 931 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: is not you know, it's fairly bright. I really do 932 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: like Jacob's Waller has shown that he's a real player, 933 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: but you know, without Hunter renfro and you know, they're 934 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: just not you know, they just they weren't as good 935 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: as they looked, essentially from the beginning. So when they 936 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: struggle to run the ball and the Titans run defenses 937 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: solid overall, it's hard for them to get stuff going. 938 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: But they kind of and I think people actually started 939 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 3: to take them seriously. I think part of the thing 940 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 3: was that people weren't really taking the Raiders seriously and 941 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 3: kind of thought, oh, that's an automatic victory, and then all 942 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: of a sudden they were playing hard. Because I do 943 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: think they've got young talent. I mean Cluton Ferrell, their 944 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 3: top pick, has played pretty well from the defensive line perspective, 945 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: and Abram there could I missip be state the safety 946 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 3: that got hurt early in the year was a big blow. 947 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 3: But you know, they've got some guys that play hard 948 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 3: and like playing football. I like what Mayock is doing. 949 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: I think next year, moving into the new stadium, I 950 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: think they'll probably be an over five hundred football team. 951 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: But I just think right now, late in the year, 952 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 3: in December, knowing the playoffs are a long shot, and 953 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 3: the injuries and the travel and the opponents, I just 954 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 3: think they're not gonna I don't think players want to, 955 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: you know, make a business decision as to whether or 956 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: not they want to tackle Derrick Henry on Sunday. So 957 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 3: I just think the Titans of the right side. 958 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: No, I completely agree. And again, remember, you know, just 959 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: kudos to the Raiders. Remember they lost Antonio Brown right 960 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: before the season start, right right, I mean Tyroll Williams suddenly, 961 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: who by the way, is battling Planter Vasciitis has been 962 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: their number one wide receiver and he's not a number 963 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: one wide receiver at all. And they lost Hunter Rent 964 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: for so kudos to them for hanging in there, but 965 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: I agree, they just look like they're about to completely 966 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: fall off a cliff. And again, it's as much about 967 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: the fact that I really like what the Titans are 968 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: doing right now. 969 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: I think they're really dangerous with Tennail back there. 970 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: So before we finish up, I want to let everyone 971 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: know that we are going to be randomly selecting the 972 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: winner of our Odell Beckham Junior helmet giveaway on Thursday's show. 973 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: But good news, we already have a new giveaway and. 974 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: It is a signed Michael Thomas Saint's helmet. 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Matt Chiefs at Patriots Patriots Laying three, 981 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: already know what you're gonna do because you basically said it. 982 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 2: The total at forty eight and a half. 983 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 1: Look, Patrick Mahomes, he looks healthy coming off the buy 984 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: the Chiefs running backs are dropping like flies, and their 985 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: defense still is are very good, but they're able to 986 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: put up points. Meanwhile, you saw it last night the 987 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: Patriots defense struggled against the Texans. It's kind of becoming 988 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of a thing for them against mobile quarterbacks. 989 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: They play a lot of man so their backs there. 990 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: Their offense looks a little out of swords here, Matt, 991 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: So what do you think you're the Pats fan? You 992 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: said you take them at home lank three or less, 993 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: So laying three forty eight and a half, you're all 994 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: over the Pats here. 995 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the classic bounce back spot. Everyone says, 996 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 3: this guy is falling. Tom Brady's angry. Look, this is 997 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 3: on paper, one of the worst Patriot offenses in the 998 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 3: last twenty years. I just if you look up and down, 999 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 3: what they're asking for Mohammed Sanu and you know, Julian 1000 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 3: Edelman to do is quite remarkable. But I think this 1001 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: is a team that when they go back home, their 1002 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 3: defense tends to score, they tend to turn the football over. 1003 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 3: The Patriots run the ball more aggressively. They're just a 1004 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 3: different team at home. And look, the Patriots are known 1005 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 3: to do this. They last year, they were twelve and 1006 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 3: four and they won it all. They dropped back to 1007 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: back road games late in the year. Everyone thought they 1008 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: were done. They dropped two games early in the year, 1009 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 3: everyone said, oh, here comes to the cliff for Tom Brady again. 1010 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 3: I mean, they've been predicting this for five years now 1011 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 3: that the Patriots were going to be done. The Chiefs 1012 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 3: are definitely a dangerous team here. But the Chiefs defense 1013 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 3: is still garbage. Okay, it's still not a good defense. 1014 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: And the Patriots are gonna need to play, you know, 1015 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 3: don't turn the ball over, don't do what they did 1016 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 3: early in the game against the Texans where they threw 1017 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 3: an interception. Ni kil Harry needs to learn how to 1018 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: run routes with Tom Brady. That was a horrible play. 1019 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: It's just one of those situations where I think going 1020 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 3: home is a monster game. And remember I mean that 1021 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 3: entire coaching staff, the entire team. Basically, it's like the 1022 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 3: Patriots south in Houston. That was their super Bowl, so 1023 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 3: they were geared up primetime game. They walked in with 1024 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 3: that stupid whatever, you know outfit that the defense that 1025 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 3: we're wearing before the game that was shown on Twitter. 1026 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 3: I think this is a spot for the Patriots to 1027 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 3: get right. And it's a short line. It's only gonna 1028 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 3: be three. Everyone's gonna be on the Chiefs. You might 1029 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 3: even get it a two and a half. I was 1030 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 3: talking to a book maker today saying that you know 1031 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: they're not getting off of three because they know what 1032 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: happens if they do. But you know a lot of 1033 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 3: people are gonna be on Kansas City here. It's gonna 1034 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 3: be a big public play. Patriots are gonna be the 1035 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 3: professional side, and I'll stick with the Patriots at Foxborough. 1036 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from. And again, 1037 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, you can imagine how many texts 1038 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: I get every year to round this time saying this 1039 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: is the end. Finally you know Britty's going and every 1040 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: year he bounces back. I'm probably not gonna get involved 1041 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: in it. Everything you're saying is correct, But I'm a 1042 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: little nervous. I really, I admit I'm a little nervous 1043 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: right now about the offense and what they're able to do. 1044 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean justifiably, of course, but I really don't know 1045 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: what they're gonna be able to do. I actually like 1046 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 1: the total and I think the defense is is gonna 1047 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: play well. But I think you know, when you go 1048 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: back to the AFC Championship game, you know, they completely 1049 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: shut down the Chiefs for the first half, and then 1050 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: you know Mahomes and Tyreek Hill they're able to just 1051 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: put up points. So I think the Patriots are going 1052 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: to score in this game. I think there's gonna be 1053 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: a lot of scoring, frankly from the Patriots offense, but 1054 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are going to find a way 1055 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: to hang with them because a healthy Mahomes always finds 1056 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: a way to put a point. So for me, even 1057 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: with the high number at forty eight and a half, 1058 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: I like the over here. I think I'm probably staying 1059 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: away from the spread. I get it though. You know, 1060 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: I certainly I would not back the Chiefs. I will 1061 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: say that because there's no way the Patriots laying three 1062 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: to anybody at home. You know, there's just no way 1063 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: I would get on it. But I really I don't 1064 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: feel comfortable back in the Pats at that number. So 1065 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: for me, I'm going to be looking more at the total. 1066 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: But I get where you're coming from, and everybody's got 1067 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: it now he you know, Matt is big on the 1068 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 1: paths as long as it stays at three. And again, 1069 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 1: it's not gonna move up. I mean, it's not going 1070 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: past three for sure, if anything, going to move down. 1071 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: But well, it's funny too because because the unfortunately the 1072 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 3: Bills and the Ravens play before the Patriots. They're in 1073 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 3: the the late afternoon slot on CBS, so that I 1074 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 3: don't like because if the Bills lose, the Patriots will 1075 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 3: know that, hey, even if we win, we still have 1076 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 3: a game in hand over Buffalo, So I don't like that. 1077 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 3: I would rather had that game be played simultaneously. But 1078 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 3: but the Patriots in this spot, this is the prime 1079 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 3: time spot. This is you know, it gets dark in 1080 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 3: New England at basically four thirty in December, so that 1081 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: this is essentially a night game, and fans are going 1082 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 3: to be tailgating all game long. And the Chiefs they're 1083 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 3: not afraid to play in cold weather. But it's never 1084 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 3: fun to go on the road when it's cold. 1085 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1086 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's move on here to these Steelers at the Cardinals. 1087 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: Steelers here laying two over, by the way, every every 1088 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: single game that we get to, by the way, your 1089 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: first reaction is, oh man. 1090 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: Because there's some real crap games. This this is one 1091 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 3: of them. I mean, what the hell happened to Kyler 1092 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 3: Murray last week? 1093 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: It was really a disaster, which is why the line 1094 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: has moved from Pickham to Steelers laying two and the 1095 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: total from forty five and a half to forty three 1096 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: and a half. I mean, you talked about it, the 1097 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals embarrassed by the rounds. Oh look to me, I 1098 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I saw that game. That was my top 1099 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: pick on the Thursday show is the Rams laying three 1100 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. It just seemed like an obvious spot for 1101 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,439 Speaker 1: the Rams to have sort of a get right game 1102 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: with their offense. But the Cardinals were embarrassed on both 1103 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Their defense has always been weak. Murray, 1104 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, he is a special talent, but he clearly 1105 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: cannot get anything done there. The Steelers, meanwhile, as we 1106 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: talked about the big win over the Browns, they're right 1107 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: in the playoff mix. Doc Hodges is not special. He 1108 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: does enough to keep them in the game with that defense. 1109 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: So what do you think here? Steelers going on the 1110 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 1: road to Arizona laying two forty three and a half. 1111 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 3: I just have a tough time and I did it 1112 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 3: last week. I have a tough time backing a quarterback 1113 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 3: named Duck. I just don't It's just like something out 1114 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 3: of like a bad fifties sitcom. I just can't stand it, 1115 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 3: like of all the nicknames you can pick, like, what 1116 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 3: the hell duck? 1117 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: No? 1118 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 3: But fine, Look, the only side to play is the 1119 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 3: Steelers here, because I think the Cardinals whatever happened during 1120 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 3: the bye week. This is what everyone said about the 1121 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals this year. Every win they get is gonna 1122 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 3: happen before the bye because they have an absolutely horrific 1123 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 3: schedule after their bye week, starting with the Rams last week. 1124 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 3: So the team bought into it and listen to the hype, 1125 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 3: or Kyler Murray is still on vacation, or they're sick, 1126 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 3: kind of Cliff Kingsbury's crap already. I don't know what happened, 1127 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 3: but that's a team that came back from a bye 1128 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 3: week and was still on vacation. And I think taking 1129 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 3: on a Pittsburgh Steelers team that knows it to play 1130 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 3: in December, this is a bad recipe for the Cardinals here. 1131 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 3: This is a bad matchup for the Cardinals. One team's hungry, 1132 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 3: one team's done. You know, I think the line, as 1133 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 3: long as it's under three, I'll take the road favorite 1134 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 3: here in Pittsburgh. 1135 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: Correct under three Steelers is certainly the play for me. Look, 1136 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 1: I love Kyler Murray. I really like watching him play. 1137 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: But you know the fact that they were able to 1138 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: cover that first game with the big sp I mean, 1139 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 1: they were getting blown out in that first game against 1140 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, they came back late. I think 1141 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers took their foot off the gas, 1142 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 1: and then you know the fact that they were able 1143 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: to keep it close in that second game. Again, I 1144 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: think it was a lot more about the fact that 1145 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers really just weren't clicking on all Sellmers. 1146 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: I just do not try. I have not trusted the 1147 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals all year. I don't trust them now against any 1148 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: semblance of a strong defense. Again, love Murray as a player, 1149 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: but I do not expect them to come out on 1150 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: top of this game. So as long as it is 1151 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: under three, I'm totally willing to back the Steelers here, 1152 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: and I'm fine. Just want it on record, I'm completely 1153 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: fine with the Duck nickname. Okay, I mean it's fine. 1154 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: I mean I really don't mind it. Let's move on 1155 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 1: to the Seahawks at the Rams. Seahawks here are laying 1156 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: two and a half, the total at forty six and 1157 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: a half. Again, we were recording this right in the 1158 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,720 Speaker 1: middle of halftime at the Seahawks Vikings game. So assuming 1159 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: nothing crazy happens tonight, I mean, you know, look, the 1160 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: Seahawks are not quite as good as their record has been. 1161 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has really been making some magic happen. They 1162 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 1: find ways to win pretty much every game. The Rams 1163 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: keep their faint playoff hopes alive here with that big 1164 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: win over the Cardinals. We just talked about Jared Goff. 1165 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: He plays well because there's no pressure getting to him, 1166 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: which is really what causes him to completely fold tight 1167 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: game the first time these two teams met. Now you're 1168 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, how do you feel here about the 1169 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: Seahawks laying two and a half with the total of 1170 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: forty six and a half. 1171 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, just real quick to kind of update earlier when 1172 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 3: we were talking about the low and the Vikings. So 1173 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook has left this game with a with a 1174 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 3: shoulder injury, so that could really impact what happens next 1175 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 3: week for the Vikings and the Lions. Just FYI to 1176 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 3: kind of scroll back on that line being you know, 1177 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: you may want to take the Lions right now at 1178 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 3: plus thirteen and a half plus fourteen if Dalvin Cook 1179 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: is going to be out for any length of time 1180 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 3: for Minnesota. But you know, nothing really serious happening for 1181 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 3: the Seahawks on an injury perspective at this point. Look, 1182 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 3: this is the game of the year for the Rams. 1183 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 3: This is Sunday night football. This is we find out 1184 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 3: whether or not the Rams are any good. I don't 1185 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 3: think the Rams are any good, and I think the Seahawks, 1186 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: you know, win or lose here. You know, hard fought 1187 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 3: game against the Vikings. They will either be ten and 1188 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 3: two or nine and three, and they're playing for a 1189 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 3: lot and they got to keep pace with the forty 1190 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 3: nine ers I under three. I think Russell Wilson and 1191 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 3: the Seahawks are the side here. I just can't trust 1192 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 3: the Rams. I know they've blew what they blew out 1193 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: the Cardinals last week, but I'm just not a fan 1194 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 3: of what's going on with this team. I think Gurley's 1195 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 3: not going to be the same player again due to 1196 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 3: the arthritis in his knee. I think everybody overvalued what 1197 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,479 Speaker 3: happened with Jared Goff last year. Overvalued being b Sean 1198 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 3: McVay even I like the Seahawks here. 1199 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, despite the fact that they're going to be coming 1200 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: off a short week. Look at the bottom line is this. 1201 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: There's no team I mentioned the Cardinals a team that 1202 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: I cannot trust. The Rams are right up there, other 1203 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: than when they played the Cardinals. You know, irresistible force 1204 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: meets immovable object. You get pressure on Jared Goff and 1205 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: he completely folds. At this point, it's basically been like 1206 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: this for a full season. The offensive line is abysmal. 1207 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: The Seahawks are slowly but surely upping their pass rush 1208 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: at this point, so I think just offensively, they're not 1209 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: going to be able to do very much. I have 1210 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: no problem backing the Seahawks here at anything less than 1211 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: the field goal without questioning. But gets above a field goal, 1212 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: I think the game is probably going to be tight 1213 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: because the Seahawks always played tight game, So if you're 1214 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: pushing the field goal or over, I'd get a little worried. 1215 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: But under a field goal like it is right now 1216 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: two and a half, I'm all over the Seahawks right now. 1217 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm not trusting the Rams whatsoever. Let's move on to 1218 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: the final game of the the Monday Night Game, the 1219 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: Giants at the Eagles. 1220 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 2: This one deserves enough if you want to throw it 1221 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 2: out there. 1222 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 1: The Eagles here currently laying eight total at forty seven. 1223 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: The Eagles blow an absolutely golden opportunity here against the Dolphins. 1224 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: They've dealt with injuries all year, but there's just something 1225 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,239 Speaker 1: not clicking with the team. Meanwhile, the Giants, they get 1226 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,320 Speaker 1: beat up pretty good by the Packers. They're not a 1227 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: great football team. Daniel Jones is battling a mild ankle injury, 1228 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: but he'll play. 1229 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 2: How do you feel here? 1230 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,720 Speaker 1: A divisional game obviously a must win for the Eagles, 1231 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: who also control their own destiny because they play the 1232 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys or I'm not sure actually if they do anymore. 1233 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: But Eagles laying eight total of forty seven. 1234 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 3: So this is like a harken back to remember, like 1235 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 3: for a couple of years that ESPN's Monday Night Football 1236 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 3: had nothing but horrible football games and we all were like, 1237 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 3: my god, another awful game. Well, they had the pretty 1238 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 3: good games, like sign's a good game. This is one 1239 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 3: of those games where you're just like, really, this is 1240 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 3: the game we have to watch the Giants against the Eagles, 1241 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 3: Like we have to sit through this in primetime of 1242 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 3: all the game, Like this is horrible, Like flex this, 1243 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 3: give me Monday night football. Flex my gosh. But so 1244 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 3: the Giants. The Eagles are playing with the Giants, Redskins, 1245 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 3: Cowboys at home and then at the Giants to end 1246 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 3: the year, so they've got nothing about divisional games left. 1247 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 3: So you're right about controlling their own destiny. But I 1248 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 3: just feel like this is too heavy of a number. 1249 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 3: I mean, I eight just feels too too much. And 1250 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying this. But the Giants, I 1251 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 3: don't know what to make of this team. I you know, 1252 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 3: both offensively defensively. Pat Shermer's probably getting fired. I mean, 1253 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 3: who knows where that team is going right now. I 1254 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 3: don't mind Daniel Jones. I like Saquon Barkley a lot, 1255 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 3: but I I don't know. If I had to play 1256 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 3: this game, I probably would take the eight points. But 1257 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm most likely just gonna have to, you know, shut 1258 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 3: this game, or have this game all in the background 1259 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 3: while I'm doing other stuff around the house and I 1260 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 3: have it on mute and this jacket to check in 1261 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 3: once in a while, because I really have no interest 1262 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 3: in this game on Monday. 1263 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1264 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: Really, the only thing I could say here is that, 1265 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: under no circumstances would I back the Eagles. That's the 1266 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: only conclusion I can dry here, either on the total 1267 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: or on the spread. After what they did against the 1268 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: Dolphins in a game that was basically like you, you 1269 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: have to win this game, and it's against the Dolphins 1270 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: who are quote unquote plucky but not really going to 1271 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: be able to get it done. I don't see how 1272 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: you can back them at this number. It's sound like 1273 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: I love the Giants at this number. I could see 1274 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: talking myself into playing them, given that it's over a touchdown. 1275 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: But the only thing I know for certain is that 1276 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: there is no way you could take the Eagles laying 1277 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown or more. It's just impossible. I whatever is 1278 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: missing with that football team, something is missing. And you know, 1279 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know how healthy they're going to be, 1280 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: Asheon Jeffrey at the very end of that game walked 1281 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 1: off limping. He's battled injuries all year, so he could 1282 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: be down. You know, Jordan Howard is still out. They're 1283 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 1: just they're just not getting it done. 1284 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: So for me, it's probably a stay away. If anything, 1285 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 2: it's the Giants. 1286 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: But whatever you do, do not take the Eagles. 1287 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm a big believer. I don't know 1288 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 3: how you feel about two team teasers, but I'm a 1289 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 3: big believer in two team teasers in the NFL. After 1290 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 3: which it's a week nine and how difficult these lines are, 1291 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 3: and the fact that I mean when I tease the 1292 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 3: Eagles down to four and a half, the fact that 1293 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 3: I was like, they have to be able to beat 1294 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 3: the Dolphins. It's a must win game. I mean, maybe 1295 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 3: they win by three and I get burned, but teasing 1296 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 3: down to four and a half under no circumstances they 1297 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 3: ever say, Well, the Eagles are gonna lose the game 1298 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 3: outright to the Miami Dolphins, and they're gonna lose it 1299 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 3: with a bunch of trick plays and they're gonna be 1300 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 3: made to look like fools by Brian Flores. I completely 1301 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 3: that was of all we've had a bunch of like, 1302 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 3: oh my gosh moments in the NFL. That game was 1303 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 3: right up there where with everything on the line. The 1304 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 3: Eagles are now fourteen and fourteen since the Super Bowl, 1305 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 3: and Carson Wentz. I mean, I think we got to 1306 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 3: start at least beginning to ask ourselves questions about Cartson 1307 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 3: Wentz a little bit and what this team looks like 1308 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 3: with him out the quarterbacks spot going forward. I know 1309 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 3: injuries have played a huge role in the offense this year, 1310 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 3: but this entire team under Doug Peterson, I don't know 1311 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 3: what to make of the Eagles. It's quite embarrassing happened 1312 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 3: last week. 1313 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean I was on them laying the ten. I 1314 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: mean really I was. I was like, they are gonna 1315 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: smash this team right now. Their offensive line had gotten 1316 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: back healthy, Alshon Jefrey was gonna play. 1317 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 3: Elsewhich was healthy. 1318 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, just ridiculous. 1319 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm completely off the Eagles at this point, 1320 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: especially when you're at a number remotely close to this high. 1321 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for today's show, Matt, 1322 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: it was great having you back on. 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