1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Doug Chrisner and I'm Brian Curtiz. Here 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. Nike reporting global sales 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: that rose five percent to twelve point eight billion dollars 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. This beat analyst expectations of twelve 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: point six billion. We get reaction from Bloomberg's punam Goil. 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: It was driven by largely a beat an Asia pack, 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: with revenues up sixteen percent. I mean on a constant 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: currency basis. For revenues in China were up twenty five 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: percent versus a ten percent estimate, So a really nice 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: beat in China, with the outperformance coming in apparel and footwear. 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: Despite sales strength, quarterly profit fell just short of analyst expectations. 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Nike said it was impacted by higher product input costs 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: and elevated freight and logistics costs. Higher discounts for merchandise 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: were also a factor as Nike tries to sell its 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: high stockpiles of inventory. And risch I mentioned the sheriffes 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: had been tumbling a little bit, now down three point 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: four percent in late trading. 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: We heard today from the head of the Atlanta Fedbank, 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: Raphael Bostik. He reiterated what he has said in the past. 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: He wants to keep borrowing cost on hold. However, mister 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Bostick said FED shared J. Powell and other colleagues at 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: the FED don't agree with him. 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 4: I believe it makes sense to give restrictive monetary policy 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: more time to work. In my view, it is less 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: certain that we need to keep hiking the policy interest 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: rate in the immediate term. Less we risk tightening too 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: much and draining too much momentum from the economy. 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: That's the Atlanta Fedbank President rafaeled Bostik. He also sees 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: less urgency to hike rates because there are signs that 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: inflation is easing and the labor market is cooling. Earlier, 31 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: fedshaired J. Powell signaled the FED will probably need to 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: hike rates at least two more times this year as 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: a way of fighting inflation. 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Right well, FED officials will have their eyes on more 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: economic data in the US Tomorrow eight thirty in the morning, 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Wall Street Time will be getting US personal income and 37 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: spend along with May PCEE inflation numbers. Bloomberg's Michael McKee 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: has a. 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 5: Preview Americans likely continued to spend more in May, but 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: not a whole lot. Analysts are predicting a pullback as 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 5: people ran down their pandemic savings and tired of buying stuff. 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 5: The question is will spending on services continue to surprise 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 5: as it did in the first quarter, helping push GDP 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 5: growth through March to two percent from one point four percent. 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 5: The fad in particular, will also be focused on the 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 5: May PCE inflation numbers. While core inflation is forecast to 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 5: remain sticky, headline inflation should drop below four percent for 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 5: the first time since the pandemic. Michael McKee Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: JP Morgan Chase is the new king of the hill, 50 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: so to speak. The firm is now beating Goldman Sachs 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: as the top deal maker. The story from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 6: JP Morgan Chase is taking credit for two hundred and 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 6: eighty four billion dollars in deals so far this year, 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 6: giving it a twenty two and a half percent market share, 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 6: compared to just two hundred and thirty seven billion, or 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 6: in eighty zene point eight percent share for Goldman. And 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 6: the last time Goldman was not to second place like 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: this was five years ago. It's tough time overall for 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 6: the industry. Deal volume has plunged forty two percent this 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 6: year compared to last year to just one point three 61 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 6: trillion dollars, and banks that ramped up hiring for deal 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 6: making beck in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, well, 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 6: there are no cutting jobs in this weaker deal flow environment. 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 6: Denise Pelgrinny Bloomberg Day, Bricksia. 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Well Doug as mentioned earlier, We'll be getting China's June 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: PMIS later this morning, likely showing the country's economic recovery 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: struggling to gain traction. Bloomberg's David and Glase has more 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: on what to expect in the data. 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 7: Recent signals on manufacturing have been mixed, but Bloomberg Economics 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 7: expects the PMIS to reflect contraction that's due to weak 71 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 7: demand for goods at home and abroad. Meantime, to gauge, 72 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 7: covering services is expected to drop to fifty three and 73 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 7: a half from fifty four and a half the month before. 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 7: That suggests a third month of slowing. Taken together, the 75 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 7: data will likely reinforce the case for stronger policy support 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 7: to try and recharge the economy. In Hong Kong. I'm 77 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 7: David Ingless Bloom Break, Day Break. 78 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: Asia and Doug We heard from the former IMF official 79 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Jew Men saying that you're going to be disappointed if 80 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: you think China is going to roll out some kind 81 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: of massive stimulus to try to aid in the recovery. 82 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: They're sticking with targeted, it's likely to be piecemeal. The 83 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: yuan down about five percent against the dollar this year 84 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: and that makes it the third worst performer in Asia. 85 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: So maybe the next question is away from fiscal stimulus 86 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: policy as it relates to the currency. Could China, for example, 87 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: lower the reserve requirement or ratio foreign currency deposits at 88 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: banks that may unleash a little bit more dollars into 89 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: the system, maybe relieve some pressure on the yuan. Who knows. 90 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: And we have a story about the regulators seemingly cracking down, 91 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: although we say in this story that we're not quite 92 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: sure if they're aiding their research, but they've been asking 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: a lot of traders, from the banks to the brokers 94 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: about why people are moving money around and why they're 95 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: selling down the youan, they're trying to gather information about it. 96 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: So we may see some tighter controls on capital flows. 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: It's a seemingly different story over on the other side 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: of the Pacific. Investors in the US seem pretty encouraged 99 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: by the latest economic data. Consumer spending was good, growth, 100 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: overall growth numbers, jobs data, all sort of indicating that, 101 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: as you said earlier, nothing really looks like it's breaking 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: in the economy, and if you think about it, that's 103 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: a decent offset to the more hawkish commentary were getting 104 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: from the Fed. 105 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right about that. And if you look at 106 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: the price action in yields, though, we were up to 107 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: day across the curve in a big way. And to 108 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: go back to the point that you were making about 109 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: what's happening in China with a currency, and you pointed 110 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: out this point on the pre show meeting that the 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: other side of the story is really a strong dollar story. 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: And then I think that's about the way in which 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: yields have been responding to a lot of the eco data. 114 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: We were up today in dollar terms when you look 115 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: at the Bloomberg Dollar Spot Index up about three tens 116 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: of one percent. 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: You know what we still need to see. I mean, 118 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot on this show about how we've 119 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: had a trend of out of the few into the many. 120 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: But we haven't seen energy rally. If oil starts to 121 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: go up in any kind of significant fashion, that may 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: be the final indicator that people need, that demand is 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: coming back in the global economy. It's not that clear 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: at the moment. But we had today, at least we 125 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: had banks and energy both rallying over one percent. We 126 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: haven't seen that all that much of late. 127 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and WTI in New York's still below seventy dollars 128 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: a barrel. That's hard to believe, isn't it. 129 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting though, that the energy companies did rally. I'm 130 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: looking at Exon here up one and a quarter percent. 131 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Let's get an update now on Global News. Well, the 132 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: US Supreme Court has ruled on affirmative action. We get 133 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: more from Dan Schwartzman in the newsroom in New York. 134 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 8: Dan, Yeah, Brian's certainly a landmark decision, the court striking 135 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 8: down the use of race in the college admissions process. 136 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 8: As a court voted six to three against Harvard and 137 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 8: the University of North Carolina. Chief Justice John Roberts, writing 138 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 8: for the conservative majority, says the students individual experience in 139 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 8: getting past obstacles in their life could be used in 140 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 8: the admissions process, but a student's race could not be used. 141 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 8: The Court had twice over the past twenty years upheld 142 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 8: race being used in the process. President Biden, speaking at 143 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 8: the White House, says people have been misinformed as to 144 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 8: how fromive action works. 145 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 9: The Court has effectively entered affirmative action in college admissions, 146 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 9: and I strongly, strongly disagree with the course decision because 147 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 9: affirmative action is so misunderstood. I want to be clear, 148 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 9: make sure everybody's clear about what the law has been 149 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 9: and what it has not been. Until today, many people 150 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 9: wrongly believe that affirmative action allows unqualified students, unqualified students 151 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 9: to be admitted ahead of qualified students. This is not 152 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 9: This is not how college admissions work. Rather, college has 153 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 9: set out standards for admission and every student, every student, 154 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 9: has to meet those standards. 155 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 8: Biden was commenting from the White House. Russian General stagez 156 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 8: Sudovikin has been questioned by officials representing military prosecutors as 157 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 8: a government investigates who may have aided Wagner Mercenary Group 158 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 8: Leadery of Guinea Pregotionin in his attempt to mutiny over 159 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 8: the weekend. Sudovikan who is considered one of the country's 160 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 8: top generals, is being kept in one place, according to reports, 161 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 8: while the Moscow Times those says he's been arrested. According 162 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 8: to The Financial Times, European Union's Chief diplomat Jossep Burel 163 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 8: has told the Block Summit that some generals have in 164 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 8: fact been arrested. The fifty six year old has not 165 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 8: been seen publicly since Saturday's rebellion, but according to his 166 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 8: daughter Veronica, nothing has happened to Sdovikan and that he 167 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 8: was at work. Taiwan signing a deal to purchase anti 168 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 8: tank munition laying systems from the US for one hundred 169 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 8: and forty six million dollars. The delivery of the systems 170 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 8: is expected to be complet the end of twenty twenty nine. 171 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 8: Taipei has been dealing with increased saber rattling from China, 172 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 8: with the Chinese military becoming more active around the island nation. 173 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 8: Air quality in New York City was not as bad 174 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 8: today as originally forecast due to the Canadian wildfires, as 175 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 8: equality rebounding from unhealthy this morning to sensitive groups to 176 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 8: moderate levels during the afternoon. Other parts of the country, though, 177 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 8: are dealing with worse conditions as Aaron Pittsburgh and Madison, 178 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 8: Wisconsin was considered very unhealthy, while Chicago, Cincinnati, and Washington 179 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 8: were listed as just unhealthy. So far, over thirty thousand 180 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 8: square miles have been consumed by the five hundred or 181 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 8: so burning fires across Canada. Global News twenty four hours 182 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 8: a day, powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists 183 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 8: and analysts in more than one hundred and twenty countries. 184 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 8: I'm Dan Schwartzman. This is Bloomberg. 185 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis along with Rashid SALAMTT. He'll be joining 186 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: us in a few moments. So let's say good morning 187 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: to our guest, Legion Hung. I was founder and CEO 188 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: at JL Warren Capital. So let's take a big broad 189 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: macro view. At the moment, the US seems to be 190 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: doing pretty well. China is stumbling a little, although the 191 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: growth levels are not that far apart. In the second 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: half of the year. Do you favorite China or the US? 193 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Oh? 194 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 10: I think China is going to have a really tough 195 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 10: Q three. I think if you so, China definitely benefits 196 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 10: from a low based Q two. So let's just not 197 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 10: Let's just get twenty twenty two, which is a distorted, 198 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 10: you know, comparison because the low base caused by law 199 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 10: bounce everywhere at different timing. Let's come to China gets 200 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 10: the first half to twenty twenty one. First half, you 201 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 10: will see actually growth declined, especially the India consumption area. 202 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 10: So that spells a story of the weaker that expected 203 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 10: macroeconomic performance and the sentiment. So and then on the 204 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 10: other hand, the US has been performing surprisingly well, even 205 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 10: though even though the FED policy is highly restrictive. But 206 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 10: you see the consumers are holding well, the housing starts 207 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 10: picking up again. And yeah, and so I mean, I 208 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 10: think there's divergence between the three economies, and those might 209 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 10: not be apps, those might not be completely reflected in 210 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 10: the absolute GDP growth number. 211 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen enough broadening out in the stock 212 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: performance in the US to feel more comfortable about where 213 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: the economy is heading? 214 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 10: I mean, I think so on the big picture. From 215 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 10: a big picture, I think we are not yet seeing 216 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 10: a significant earning recession because we don't have a broad 217 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 10: economical recession. However, if you look at the stock stock 218 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 10: company specifics, some companies are doing better than the others 219 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 10: because you know they're taking shares right, So Nike just 220 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 10: reported and North America is growing five percent. That's at 221 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 10: the part of inflation. So maybe that's the reflection of 222 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 10: the sneaker category just not growing as much as used to, 223 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 10: or maybe the sneaker category and the consumption category is declining. 224 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 10: But Nike, you're still taking share. So we still have 225 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 10: to look into the company specific to draw any conclusion 226 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 10: for investments purpose. 227 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 11: Do you think Lee just looking at some of the 228 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 11: companies you like or don't and there's the liquidity risk, 229 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 11: a high liquidity risk in one of your biggest shorts. 230 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 10: Yes, so that goes to a chinel EV sector. CPCA, 231 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 10: which is Auto Association, predicts flatish all those sales earlier 232 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 10: in twenty twenty three. Yet if you collect, if you 233 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 10: add up all the guided number sales targets among the 234 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 10: pub twenty EV makers, you get ninety percent year over 235 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 10: year growth, which implies by the end of this year 236 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 10: the EV penetration will be around the forty percent compared 237 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 10: to right now we are already in June, going to 238 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 10: July it's still as thirty percent, So I think there's 239 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 10: oversupply in EB You know, GF three Tesla is making 240 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 10: about eighty five thousand cars in China and right now 241 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 10: it's exploring forty to fifty percent. But as the you know, 242 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 10: capacity gs, you know, it's the Tesla factories in Berlin 243 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 10: and anywhere else picking up the demand. The export demand 244 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 10: for Chinese factory will decline. 245 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 6: Right, So that's just Tesla. 246 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 10: And then in terms of the NEIL, which is one 247 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 10: of our top board recommendation, it has two factories. Each 248 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 10: factory produces about two hundred three hundred cars a day, 249 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 10: hiding in efficient and highly under capacity. So yeah, and 250 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 10: they're guiding you know, one hundred percent growth year over year. 251 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: So that's okay. So your short NEIL, your short NEIL, 252 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: would you also be short Li Auto and ex. 253 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 10: Pond Oh no, no, no, you know, we do have 254 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 10: concerns of the industry capacity over all, but each company 255 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 10: is different. Lee has its own story of you know, 256 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 10: being the top seller of hybrid EV and the x 257 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 10: puand has a restructuring story that's playing out for us. 258 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 10: So those are at a much lower risk than the NEO. Right. 259 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 11: Let's now turn to some of those companies that you 260 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 11: would be buying here as well, and what does well 261 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 11: in an economic downturn. That's the question I suppose you 262 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 11: ask yourself. But then you have to ask yourselves, well, 263 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 11: are we getting an economic downturn? 264 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 10: Well, I mean, if you look at the Chinel, we 265 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 10: are still substantially below twenty twenty one consumption levels, So 266 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 10: I would would I would conclude that it's an economic construction. 267 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 10: Like I said earlier, we need to skip twenty twenty 268 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 10: two as a base for comp because it was distorted 269 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 10: because of you know, lockdown here, and they're among you know, 270 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 10: among different locations in different months. So if we skip 271 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 10: twenty twenty two and comp against twenty twenty one or 272 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 10: even twenty nineteen, many many brands, I'm not setting nearly 273 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 10: as much today as they were two years ago alone 274 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 10: four years ago, so back to me is a contraction. 275 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Okay, let's focus more on the US then, because you're clearly, 276 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, much more positive about trading in the US 277 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: at the moment than China. One of the trends we've 278 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: seen of late, which might surprise some people, is that 279 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: we've seen techs underperform, and we've seen, for instance, the 280 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: Russell two thousand has has gained more in the past 281 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: month than the Nasdaq one hundred and transports have as well. 282 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: What are the pockets of non tech that you like. 283 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 10: At the moment, I think that the the the UH 284 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 10: sort of the line between tech and consumer is getting 285 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 10: so close. So I mean, many many consumer names use 286 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 10: tech as way to campaign and the sell to UH 287 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 10: their consumers digitally and you know, manage the CRN more efficiently. 288 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 10: So we are bolish consumer discretionaries are UH in the US, 289 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 10: So those will be the multinationals with diversify the geographic exposures. 290 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 10: So and also that's something that we feel like, you know, 291 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 10: the US investors and the global investors are so cautious 292 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 10: and the pessimistic about UH their exposure to China, and 293 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 10: it's very hard to convince them to change that sentiment 294 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 10: right now because there's no fundamental kind of UH action 295 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 10: point out of that part of the world. However, if 296 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 10: you feel like you cannot live without participating a China investment, 297 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 10: those multinationals, especially the beaten up multinationals such as Nike, 298 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 10: as the louder maybe and I'm just saying maybe, and 299 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 10: some European Urinians and you know, you know, Mount Clears 300 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 10: and the whatever, those might be a very good vehicle 301 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 10: for them to write the China recovery story eventually, or 302 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 10: the upside you know, uh brought up, brought up by 303 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 10: someone you know, bigger than expected stimulus. 304 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: Package very quickly. 305 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 11: Would that be enough to get people back into the 306 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 11: Chinese stock market or would there be something else needed 307 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 11: very quickly? 308 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I think it's a confidence crisis, so 309 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 10: that will take time. It's not a liquidity crisis. There's 310 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 10: plenty of liquidity in the system. It's the movement. It's 311 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 10: the velocity of the money that's the concern. No one 312 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 10: that demand from money and activitiece is so low. 313 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: Since you gave us a very short answer, let me 314 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: give you one more question as a nod to Matt Miller, 315 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: one of my colleagues, who said that it seems like 316 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Chinese policy makers are going with a more sort of 317 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: longer term view at fixing the economy rather than reacting 318 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: very quickly like a lot of policymakers do. Do you 319 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: agree with that? Are they getting it right? 320 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 10: Yes, because they have a consolidated authoritative command based the economy, 321 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 10: so they don't have to respond to your market reactions 322 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 10: or economic reactions. 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