1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Well, that was time for our daily Bloomberg Law Breefe, 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: exploring legal issues and the news. It's brought to you 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: by American Arbitration Association, International Trade or Business Dispute Resolve 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Faster with the International Center for a Dispute Resolution, the 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: leader in alternative dispute resolution around the world i c 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: d R dot org. Today Bloomberg lahos, Jon Grasso and 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: Michael Best discussed why President Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: is refusing to cooperate with House and sented investigations into 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Russian interference in the presidential election. They speak with Andrew Wright, 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: a professor at the Savannah Law School, and Renato Mariotta, 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: a partner at Thompson Coburn Renato. Why would the investigators 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: be interested in talking to the president's personal getting information 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: from the president's personal attorney. Well, then attorney's communications with 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: his clients are privileged. But when the attorney is not 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: acting as a lawyer, his actions are judged just like 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: anyone else's actions. So, for example, there have been press 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: reports that that Mr Cohen was communicating with the Russians 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: on his own, was actually traveling overseas and having meetings. 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: I believe there was a report about a meeting in Prague. 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: If hypothetically an attorney who was having a meeting with 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: foreign officials, um, you know that meeting would not be privileged. All. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: The only privileged communications would be the communications and Mr 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: Cohen would have with this client, the President. So you 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: know Mr Cohen would be would be investigated just like 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: any other individual who's having contacts with foreign government. If 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: he is subpoena, which it seems likely, and he testifies 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: that he is going to be invoking that privilege, and 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: there's going to have to be a decision made as 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: to whether or not it applies. He's going to say 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: that's based on conversations I had with my client, and 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: off we go. Yeah. Well, so if he receives the subpoena, 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: it'll first of all depend on the scope of the subpoena. 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: And if the scope of that subpoena reaches his communications 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: with his client, and this issue is present it Now, 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: let's say he wanted to assert attorney client privilege on 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: behalf of his client, President Donald J. Trump, he would 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: have to establish votes sort of for each document that 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: was within the scope of the subpoena. What the basis 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: is for withholding that. So first point is it's a 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: document by document level analysis. Um, the courts have just 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: held this the dispute with Air Colder and Lynch about 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: Operation Fast and Furious. And the second fact is that 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: he is going to have to present that to the 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: chair of the committee. So the House chair House Intelligence 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Committee chair will be the one who makes the initial 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: legal ruling as to the applicability of the privilege to 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: his his conversations with his client. And so of course 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: since the committee has one asking for those documents, unlike 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: a court where it's the prosecutor or the grand jury 50 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: asking for the documents and the judge decides. Here it's 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: the same person it's requesting and subpoena and documents that 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: makes the initial legal ruling. That's Andrew Right, a professor 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: at a Savannah law school, and Renato Mariotti, a partner 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: at Thompson Cockburn, speking at the Bloomberg Law host room, 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Grosso and Michael Best. 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