WEBVTT - Faster Wi-Fi on Planes & What to Do When Your Personal Info Is Leaked

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<v Speaker 1>Reviews are in for another physical AI device and they're

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<v Speaker 1>great guests this week. Ryan Ozawa, a native Hawaiian tech

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<v Speaker 1>journal and publisher of the Hawaii Bulletin, is going to

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<v Speaker 1>join me to talk about the startup scene in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>Then later in the show, we've got JR. Rayfiel. He

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<v Speaker 1>is tech writer and author of the Android Intelligence newsletter,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll get updated on Android and some tips and

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<v Speaker 1>tricks as well. And great interview with Troy Hunt. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the creator of haveibenponed dot com. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>website that lets you see if your data has been

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<v Speaker 1>involved in a breach, and he will discuss how to

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<v Speaker 1>check the website and what to do if you see

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<v Speaker 1>your information on there. He also talks about those services

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<v Speaker 1>that purport to take your information off of the dark

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<v Speaker 1>Web and other places. So a great conversation there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this week I found myself in Hawaii once again. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not plan that, but I was actually planning

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<v Speaker 1>this since October. So you know, if you listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, that I was in Hawaii for a personal

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<v Speaker 1>vacation a couple of weeks ago, and then the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>came up to go back, and as crazy as it sounds,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I said yes because I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>among the first to test out high speed internet on

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<v Speaker 1>Starlink on Hawaiian airlines, and this is something they announced

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<v Speaker 1>last October. So I emailed the company. I said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to get on one of these planes

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<v Speaker 1>and test this out. And they said, okay, well we

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<v Speaker 1>just announced it. We haven't even installed this yet. I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well keep me in mind. So I just kept bugging

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<v Speaker 1>them and bugging them and bugging them, and finally it

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<v Speaker 1>worked out, and so I flew out of Long Beach, California, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the number one comment I got on

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram when I was posting about the trip is

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<v Speaker 1>rich Please don't tell people about Long Beach Airport too late,

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<v Speaker 1>I just did. It is an incredible little airport if

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<v Speaker 1>you can find a flight out of there. Obviously it's limited,

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<v Speaker 1>but what a great airport. I love. We've gotten so

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<v Speaker 1>used to like Lax and this huge, giant airport which

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<v Speaker 1>is crowded and trafficky and all this stuff, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you get to one of these smaller airports, either in

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<v Speaker 1>a small town or one of the smaller airports in

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<v Speaker 1>the LA area like Burbank or Long Beach. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>flown out of Ontario, so I can't speak for that one,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a great experience, very very nice. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get on the flight and let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about Starlink on this flight. So if you're not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with starlink, this is from SpaceX and it's a network

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<v Speaker 1>of low orbit satellites. They've been shooting up into outer

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<v Speaker 1>space and they just kind of blanket the globe. So

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<v Speaker 1>this gives you Internet from space pretty much anywhere. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been satellite internet before, but this one is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very fast, faster than we've ever seen before. So I

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<v Speaker 1>got on the flight from Long Beach to Honolulu, about

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<v Speaker 1>a five hour flight, and the internet starts immediately the

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<v Speaker 1>second that you get to your seat. You can start

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<v Speaker 1>using starlink. And what Hawaiian has done is they've made

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<v Speaker 1>it really easy. There is basically no login. You just

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<v Speaker 1>go to your internet, you connect to the it says

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<v Speaker 1>starlink on Hawaiian air and you connect and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, oh, by the way, a couple of rules here.

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<v Speaker 1>No audio or video calls, no live streaming from your seat,

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<v Speaker 1>and no looking at obscene content. So those are the

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<v Speaker 1>ground rules. But after that you can pretty much do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want. It's all free and you can connect

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<v Speaker 1>as many devices as you want. And I did interview

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of Hawaiian Airlines and I said, hey, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple things. Number one, is this going to remain free?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said yes. The reason why it's free is

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<v Speaker 1>because we were late to the Wi Fi game. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other airlines have Wi Fi before us. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been slow, it's been not very good, but we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to come out of the gate really strong with this

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<v Speaker 1>awesome high speed internet, and we're going to give it

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<v Speaker 1>to customers for free. And if you think that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about this, they do. Because I was looking,

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<v Speaker 1>as I always do at other people's phone screens, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of snoop whenever I can. I was watching people

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<v Speaker 1>text their friends saying, oh my gosh, I have starlink

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<v Speaker 1>on this flight. I have starlink on this flight, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did a whole bunch of tests and it was incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no other way to describe it other than OMG,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe we have this up in the air

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. So I was getting speeds bursts. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say two hundred and two fifty steady, about one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred megabits per second. So that's pretty much home internet

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<v Speaker 1>speed if you're lucky, if you have a good internet

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<v Speaker 1>at home now. I was on a flight a couple

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago coming back from Honolulu. I won't name the airline,

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<v Speaker 1>but my internet was eight bucks, which I paid for.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to catch up on my four or five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred emails that I got throughout the week, and guess

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<v Speaker 1>what I could not even check email with that internet

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<v Speaker 1>connection because it was so bad. And that reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>that I do need to request a refund. If you

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<v Speaker 1>ever have a bad internet experience. By the way, always

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<v Speaker 1>always request a refund. If you cannot do what you

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to do, just go to the website and

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<v Speaker 1>of that airline and say request a refund. And most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time it's very automated. It's like you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a response within twenty four hours and they'll say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've refunded you your money. They don't want people to

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad experience. This stuff is not well it

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<v Speaker 1>is rocket science. But if it's not working properly, which

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's not, especially with the old style satellite internet,

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<v Speaker 1>it just ask for a refund and they will give

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<v Speaker 1>it to you. So the in flight experience was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>What did I do? I tested downloading an entire movie

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<v Speaker 1>before I even took off. I've never been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and all the years I've been flying, downloaded

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<v Speaker 1>in an entire two hour movie or so while I

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<v Speaker 1>was still at the gate. Then once I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the air, I deleted that movie and redownloaded it and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just fine. Took a couple of minutes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I actually felt guilty at a certain point that I

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<v Speaker 1>was using so much data. I also uploaded and downloaded

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<v Speaker 1>like a one gigabyte file that worked just fine. I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to check my email. I streamed Netflix, so

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<v Speaker 1>there is no need to download anymore. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>paradigm shift, and I think it's going to impact the

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<v Speaker 1>inflight systems because the inflight entertainment systems, because why install

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<v Speaker 1>all of these seatback monitors and these big hard drives

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to fill with all these movies when

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<v Speaker 1>people can just you know, binge on their networks and

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<v Speaker 1>their streaming services that they already own and the shows

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<v Speaker 1>are already watching. And I did ask the CEO about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, well, they're still going to have some

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<v Speaker 1>planes that do have the built in entertainment systems. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is something that we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>phased out over time because people have their smartphones and

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<v Speaker 1>once they know they can stream, they're going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I also tried Peloton just for fun. I didn't bring

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<v Speaker 1>the bike in the air, but I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why not, so I was able to stream Peloton. What

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<v Speaker 1>else did I try? Oh, roadblocks, my kids wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to try roeblocks. They said, Dad, you got to check

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<v Speaker 1>the latency. I'm like, how do you know what latency is?

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<v Speaker 1>But of course they do. They're kids. They know more

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<v Speaker 1>than we do sometimes. So I checked the latency on

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<v Speaker 1>Roadblocks and it was just fine. And it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>because my kid was playing Roadblocks this morning and he

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<v Speaker 1>showed me the latency we had at home. He's like, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>that number is not very good. And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe a lot of people are on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. But again, this all worked really really well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we are seeing a big shift with

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<v Speaker 1>internet on the planes because you are now fully connected

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you are. We were over the Pacific, a tricky

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<v Speaker 1>place for traditional internet, and it worked really really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Other airlines that are planning to install starlink include Cutter

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<v Speaker 1>is that how you say it, Qatar guitarsx JSX, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a smaller airline, Air Baltic zip AAR, which I

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<v Speaker 1>actually took to Japan. I think it was last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not have the starlink. Last year when I

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<v Speaker 1>took it, they did have Wi Fi. It was fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Air New Zealand. So and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Link is kind of early out of the gate with this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have a really good solution. But Boeing and

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon are also working on a similar satellite internet solutions.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems like hopefully one of the major carriers

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<v Speaker 1>in the US will launch this soon. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it'll be free we'll say, but for Hawaiian

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<v Speaker 1>Airlines it is and I did, by the way, not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily tech related, but Alaska is going to acquire Hawaiian

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<v Speaker 1>air Lines, which, by the way, I think is very ironic.

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<v Speaker 1>The two like most remote states in America, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the two airlines are like linking up, which I find

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<v Speaker 1>very cute. But I did ask the CEO. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>so is this all moot? Like, is Alaska going to

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<v Speaker 1>take over Hawaiian and get rid of the airline? And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, no, we are going to operate a same platform,

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<v Speaker 1>which tells me you'll be able to book the flights

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<v Speaker 1>seamlessly with the two airlines, but they will be two

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<v Speaker 1>distinct levels of service. Now, by the way, I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>that before with mergers and then when people forget in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, they kind of merge all the

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<v Speaker 1>brands together. But I you know, Hawaiian was a very

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<v Speaker 1>u unique experience. It feels almost like your vacation starts

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<v Speaker 1>when you get on that plane. First time I took them,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think they would it would be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of silly to get rid of that experience because it

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<v Speaker 1>is so unique and so interesting. All right, eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning a long time, first time and if you need

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<v Speaker 2>a bell, ding ding ding ding ning, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember Kim from the Leo days. You you

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<v Speaker 2>fill some pretty big shoes, my friend, and you've you've

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<v Speaker 2>done an excellent job. That's why I'm calling. I will

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<v Speaker 2>try to get to the point. What I'm dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>is Windows eleven professional. And then for work, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a two thousand and seven office professional, and about a

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<v Speaker 2>month and a half ago, my settings went wengo. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>able to get incoming, but I can't do outgoing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've gone over the internet and it sounds like the

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<v Speaker 2>nine nine to five incoming pop three number is good,

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<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately I can't find that sweet spot to get

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<v Speaker 2>the U the outgoing SMTP numbers. And I've gone through

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<v Speaker 2>a myriad of numbers suggested by the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the Internet is suggesting all kinds of conflicting information.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't say, who would have foun I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, goodness, gracious, I mean I must have a half

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<v Speaker 2>a dozen numbers that I.

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<v Speaker 1>Plugged in so frustrating failed.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I get and I get a I got

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<v Speaker 2>a myriad of OX eight hundred alerts that I just stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>So I called my ISP. They gave me their numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were only good if I wanted to go on

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<v Speaker 2>their online email address on their side, but for me

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<v Speaker 2>third party, they wouldn't touch it. And they said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to call you need to call Outlook, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Outlook, Outlook doesn't have a phone number. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just putting off Okay. So here's the here's the

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<v Speaker 1>question I've got for you. What is your email service

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<v Speaker 1>for both your work and the so you've got. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to set up just your work email on

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<v Speaker 1>both of these outlooks? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, No, I have Gmail for work. That's working. Fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I can get from my I can send from my

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<v Speaker 2>work email which is on the same computer, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can get incoming uh okay, but unfortunately the outgoing does

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<v Speaker 2>not work. So that's that's my issue. It's my my

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<v Speaker 2>Outlook account.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So this is your Outlook account. So the email

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<v Speaker 1>address is at Outlook dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's actually it's no, No, I'm my Outlook account

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<v Speaker 2>my third party on my on my system on on

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<v Speaker 2>my home computer. It's I don't want to name this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the i s P. Okay, but if I

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<v Speaker 2>did my email address, yeah, so it's an i SP

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<v Speaker 2>email address basically like at roadrunner dot net or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Charter Okay, So Charter, Okay, that's that's an easy one.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go to Charter Charter email setting. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is number one most of the time if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Outlook it will once you put

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<v Speaker 1>in your email address, it will figure out the settings.

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<v Speaker 1>It will ping the server and it will say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the settings. We know what those are, and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>put them in automatically. Now have you tried doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you tried deleting the account off of the Outlook

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<v Speaker 1>altogether and then starting over.

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<v Speaker 2>No? I have have not. I did reload the Outlook

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and seven professional, but that didn't help at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I would do is I would actually delete

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<v Speaker 1>the email off of the computer all together, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I would set it up again. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the Spectrum setup. It's it's pretty standard for

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<v Speaker 1>these email settings, and they even have the automatic configuration

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<v Speaker 1>the manual configuration. I think that you just have to

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<v Speaker 1>delete the account and start over. The thing is your

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<v Speaker 1>your email is probably safe. I say probably, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure you could be downloading it and taking it

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<v Speaker 1>off their Spectrum server. But most of the time these

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<v Speaker 1>are set up as an IMAP, which means what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing at home is just being reflected on their server

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<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. So if you delete the account, it

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<v Speaker 1>will just delete the settings for that account and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can start over and add it. So what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do as a test. If you have like a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an Android phone or an iPhone, I would

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<v Speaker 1>try adding the email address there, checking to see if

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<v Speaker 1>it works, make sure all your messages are there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I would just delete the account from the old

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft or from the old from the outlook and just

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<v Speaker 1>read it and it should find it just fine. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at I'm looking at all of these settings. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it's very special, like it's it's all very

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<v Speaker 1>very straightforward. And if if you look at this, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you've been on the website. But Spectrum dot net,

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<v Speaker 1>Slash support, Slash Internet, Slash Outlook set up very very straightforward.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want email me, I will email you

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<v Speaker 1>a link to that. I'll also put it in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. But my advice just go ahead, delete the account,

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<v Speaker 1>set it back up, put in your email address and

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<v Speaker 1>it should find those settings automatically. If not, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>manual address. Eight to eight rich one on one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming on next, We're talking tech in Hawaii. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,

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<v Speaker 1>talking technology. The website richon Tech dot tv can follow

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<v Speaker 1>me on social media at rich On Tech. So this

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<v Speaker 1>week I was in Hawaii and our next guest kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an interesting way of meeting them. I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper when I was in Hawaii the last time

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago on vacation, and I came

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<v Speaker 1>across Ryan Ozawa and he writes a column for the

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<v Speaker 1>paper there, and I said, oh, this is cool. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy seems to know what he's talking about. He's doing

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<v Speaker 1>all these tech things. And so I emailed him and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Hey, when I come out there next time,

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<v Speaker 1>can I interview you about the tech scene in Hawaii?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said sure. So let's hear from Ryan Ozawa,

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<v Speaker 1>native Hawaiian tech journalist, publisher of the Hawaii Bulletin. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the startup scene in Hawaii. First off,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me about the kind of state of tech

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<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people would assume that we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a tech industry, but I think because of our isolation

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<v Speaker 3>in the Middle Pacific, that kind of innovation is vital

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<v Speaker 3>to survival.

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<v Speaker 1>And over the.

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<v Speaker 3>Last fifteen twenty years, we've been seeing a constant growth

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<v Speaker 3>in the tech industry, especially now when you're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>renewable energy and things about sustainability of something that we

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<v Speaker 3>do very well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said you've covered tech here for twenty years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I first met up with a startup co

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<v Speaker 3>founder here, he was like, we should do a meetup

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<v Speaker 3>for everybody we know that's doing tech here. And four

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<v Speaker 3>people showed up at a coffee shop in Manoa. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>in five years that got to two hundred people. Very impressive,

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<v Speaker 3>but it has been slow and steady growth. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic was a reset button for everybody, but it

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<v Speaker 3>really helped here because people began to see the importance

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<v Speaker 3>of being independent without relying on a single industry like tourism.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what do you see when it comes to startups?

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<v Speaker 1>What are kind of the commonalities with these startups here?

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<v Speaker 3>A big part of it might be travel tech, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that energy and sustainability is a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of it. We are well on our way to

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<v Speaker 3>being our goal, hitting our goal of being fully unsustainable

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<v Speaker 3>solar wave energy like that, and startups in that space

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<v Speaker 3>are doing well. We have a lot of East meets

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<v Speaker 3>West happening here, so Asia their startups and their technology

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<v Speaker 3>kind of intersecting with the continent and from Silicon Valley,

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<v Speaker 3>for example. I think we're a good meeting point for

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<v Speaker 3>that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is it challenging to have a startup in

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<v Speaker 1>Hawaii And what are some of the challenges.

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<v Speaker 3>So, certainly the cost of living is very high here.

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<v Speaker 3>Taxes are an issue, business regulations. We're working very hard

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<v Speaker 3>on making those a little more easier to work with.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that when you're dealing with technology, fortunately

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<v Speaker 3>real estate is not something that you necessarily need like

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<v Speaker 3>you might in a typical brick and mortar business. I

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<v Speaker 3>think another challenge is you want all of the legs

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<v Speaker 3>of a full tech ecosystem to exist. So a Tier

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<v Speaker 3>one research university we have that, we have more and

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<v Speaker 3>more venture capital firms with operations here doing local investments.

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<v Speaker 3>We have local startup accelerators, So more and more of

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<v Speaker 3>these pieces of the puzzle are coming. We're just having

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<v Speaker 3>to build them all over time.

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked about the challenges. What are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits of being a startup in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, as we're finding post pandemic, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who work in startups and tech from other places in

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<v Speaker 3>the world realize that if they can work or startup

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<v Speaker 3>business anywhere in the world thanks to the Internet, why

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<v Speaker 3>not do it in a beautiful place with perfect weather,

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<v Speaker 3>moderate weather, and just the high quality of life versus

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<v Speaker 3>cost of living. So we are benefiting in some respects

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<v Speaker 3>from a lot of Silicon Valley or even from Asia

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<v Speaker 3>tech innovative and investors making a home here and still

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<v Speaker 3>having that itch to do something and finding local partners.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about this place that we're in right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the entrepreneur's sandbox. It's one of many

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<v Speaker 3>co working spaces here, but this one was built in

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<v Speaker 3>a public private partnership partnership with a state economic development organization.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's one of the tangible examples of a space

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<v Speaker 3>where events can happen, where meetings can happen, and where

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<v Speaker 3>startups have space. They can get a permanent office or

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<v Speaker 3>just rent a desk. And what you want in a

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<v Speaker 3>co working space is kind of that overlapping kismet of

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<v Speaker 3>energy where you just look over at the next table

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<v Speaker 3>and there's someone doing something that you might need. They're

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<v Speaker 3>into marketing, you're into UX and UI design, So let's

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<v Speaker 3>work together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's great. And what do you like

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<v Speaker 1>to cover, like, what are some of the stories that

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen or some of the stuff that you like

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<v Speaker 1>to cover personally, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think my background really wants to focus on the education piece,

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<v Speaker 3>or what you might call workforce development. You know, rather

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<v Speaker 3>than training young people to be cogs in a wheel

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<v Speaker 3>of a corporate machine, which is definitely the past, you

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<v Speaker 3>want to train them to be entrepreneurs themselves, to be

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<v Speaker 3>their own boss, come up with a business that is sustainable,

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<v Speaker 3>but they can do something that they excel at and

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<v Speaker 3>that they're great at. That could be being a creator

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<v Speaker 3>and being a YouTube or TikTok personality. But more and

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<v Speaker 3>more you're seeing, especially given Hawaii's unique historic culture, there

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<v Speaker 3>is a demand for that. So there are more and

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<v Speaker 3>more startups that kind of exemplify native Hawaiian culture or

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<v Speaker 3>some of the things that only exist here. The same

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<v Speaker 3>reason why people might travel here are same reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>they might purchase products or services from here. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing better and better every year. The pandemic was

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<v Speaker 3>a blessing in disguise, and I think that we're even

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<v Speaker 3>now seeing at all levels, including in the government, the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of fostering an innovation ecosystem. Across different sectors, education

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<v Speaker 3>as well as business, as well as investment, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's only up from here.

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<v Speaker 1>Are people surprised when they find out that startups are

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<v Speaker 1>based in Hawaii or there's even a tech culture in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when we were a destination for corporate conferences, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times it was a liability, like if your

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<v Speaker 3>hometown said we're going to a conference in Hawaii, like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh right, sure they're going to be working in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you talk about technology startups, I think it

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<v Speaker 3>adds a little bit of cachet. And because we can

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<v Speaker 3>be anywhere, why wouldn't you be here? So I think

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<v Speaker 3>it makes more and more sense.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Once again? That is Ryan Ozawa, a Hawaiian

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<v Speaker 1>tech journalist and publisher of the Hawaii Bulletin. He covers

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<v Speaker 1>all things technology in Hawaii. Very connected guy. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to link to his uh newsletter, just go to

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<v Speaker 1>my website. Rich on tech dot TV eighty eight rich

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<v Speaker 1>one O one eight eight eight seven four to two

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. Coming up, We'll take more of

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<v Speaker 1>your questions and I'm gonna tell you why some Apple

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<v Speaker 1>users were logged out of their phones and Apple IDs

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<v Speaker 1>without any explanation. My name is rich and you are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome back to Rich on Tech,

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<v Speaker 1>the show where we talk about the tech stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>think you should know about. Phone line eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. So yesterday a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people reported on social media that they were logged out

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<v Speaker 1>of their Apple IDs without any explanation, just suddenly they

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<v Speaker 1>were logged out of all their devices. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how widespread this is, but it definitely seemed to happen

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<v Speaker 1>to a couple people that I follow on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>So people had to reset their passwords before they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to log back in. First thing I did was

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<v Speaker 1>check Apple's system status page. I didn't see anything that

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<v Speaker 1>said there was any issue. But again, this did seem

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<v Speaker 1>to happen to people over the weekend. So if this

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<v Speaker 1>does happen to you, if this is some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>ongo issue, it seems like a password reset does help. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have that stolen device protection turned on, which

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people do, if you try to reset

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<v Speaker 1>your password when you're away from a trusted location, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where you use your phone, you're the most Let

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<v Speaker 1>me give an example, say this happens to you while

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<v Speaker 1>you're out at a bar and you try to reset

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<v Speaker 1>your password there, your phone is going to give you

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<v Speaker 1>trouble because that's not a trusted location unless I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you're at that bar a lot and then it says, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we know you're here a lot, so we'll let you reset.

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<v Speaker 1>But most of the time that's either work or home.

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<v Speaker 1>So just be aware if it happens to you. It

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<v Speaker 1>does seem very odd. I thought people were getting hacked.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always a concern of getting hacked, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lockdown those accounts. Please. Let's go to Rosemary in Fontana, California. Rosemary,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with Rich Hi.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have to upgrade per spectrum to a new

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what they call.

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<v Speaker 1>It a box, sure the router and.

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<v Speaker 4>Not the router, just the channel box.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, yeah, I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. So and we also have a firestick on the

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<v Speaker 4>old channel box. We never had a problem with firestick

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<v Speaker 4>never we upgrade. About the same week we upgraded, a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of days later, we start getting a message on

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<v Speaker 4>our TV screen saying unknown device detective. There's no okay,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no cancel we just have to wait for that

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<v Speaker 4>message to disappear. So it disappeared. Our fire stick keeps working.

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<v Speaker 4>We're able to get onto what we have. We have

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<v Speaker 4>a whole bunch of apps that we subscribe to because

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<v Speaker 4>we don't have a smart TV, so we have a

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<v Speaker 4>whole bunch of apps on fire stick.

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<v Speaker 5>Last night, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Firestick would open, go to the homepage, but our remote

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<v Speaker 4>stopped working. It would not work. I looked online for

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<v Speaker 4>a whole bunch of different tricks and did everything, three

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<v Speaker 4>buttons at the same count, twenty on, plugged on, plug

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<v Speaker 4>from the outlet.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Today, we try it again, still nothing.

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<v Speaker 6>It would not work.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So is that our spectrum not compatible with our

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<v Speaker 4>fire stick?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, The two things are not related. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a coincidence that this happened after you got

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum, So I don't I don't think there's any

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<v Speaker 1>there's no relationship between these two devices. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of people have a fire stick with their modem.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any issue. I think there's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a fluke. So I will tell you that my

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<v Speaker 1>mom she called me with a similar issue with her firestick,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not kidding. I must have troubleshooted the heck

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<v Speaker 1>out of this thing, you know, over the phone, over

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty five hundred miles and I finally gave

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<v Speaker 1>up and I said, I don't know what's happening here,

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<v Speaker 1>like I've never heard of this issue. And yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>did all the reset and all this stuff. And my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who's also kind of techie, I sent him

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<v Speaker 1>over there and he's like, you know what, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think the fire stick just burned out. And it did it,

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<v Speaker 1>just the fire stick went bad. So these things are

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<v Speaker 1>not expensive. They do happen. I think with yours the

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<v Speaker 1>troubleshooting that I would take number one. When you press

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<v Speaker 1>a button on your firestick on the remote, is there

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of indication that something is happening on Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a stick or a box? Okay, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of the TV. Have you tried using

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<v Speaker 1>your phone as a remote control to see if the

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<v Speaker 1>fire TV stick is still functional?

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<v Speaker 4>Did not know you could do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's the first thing I would do is

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that your fire TV stick is functional by

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<v Speaker 1>downloading the fire TV app to your phone and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the fire to let me get the exact name. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have iPhone or Android? Okay, So just download Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>fireTV app okay, and that will connect to your will.

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<v Speaker 1>That will turn into a remote control for your firestick.

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<v Speaker 1>So just make sure that works. That's like the first base,

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<v Speaker 1>just to make sure that everything's working on your firestick. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The second thing I would do, and the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you this is because, look, you're having an issue,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are many other people listening that may have

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<v Speaker 1>similar issues in the future, and I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>the proper troubleshooting kind of steps that we can all take.

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<v Speaker 1>So this helps everyone with whatever issue you're having with

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the firestick, because these things do have issues from time

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<v Speaker 1>to time. So first off, download the remote, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>everything works. Then once you see that that's working properly,

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<v Speaker 1>I would go into the settings on the fire TV

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<v Speaker 1>stick and I would do any sort of software update.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time, the fire TV stick is going

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<v Speaker 1>to do its own software updates, but sometimes it takes

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<v Speaker 1>longer than if you did it manually. So go into

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<v Speaker 1>the settings and make sure your fire TV stick is

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<v Speaker 1>up to date fully with the software that it should

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<v Speaker 1>have on it. So that's number two, Okay, Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>you're on step number two. So everything your fire TV

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>stick seems to be working. Your phone is working as

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<v Speaker 1>the remote. Now we figure out if this is a

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<v Speaker 1>remote control problem. So did you change the batteries in

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<v Speaker 1>this remote control several times?

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<v Speaker 4>We had several different new batteries. We've changed them.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So fresh batteries you put in the remote. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So once you get to that step that you have

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<v Speaker 1>the fresh batteries in the remote, I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>do the reset system that you did for the remote. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, Amazon makes it really tricky to unpair

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<v Speaker 1>and repair these remotes. I don't understand why. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the consumer from random unpairings. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is an official help page on the Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>website that you know, like you said, hold the left button,

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<v Speaker 1>the menu button, and the back button at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want you to do that when you've unplugged

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<v Speaker 1>the fire TV stick. So basically, you unplug the stick,

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<v Speaker 1>then you hold those buttons on the remote for twelve seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>That will unpair the remote. Then you take the batteries out,

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<v Speaker 1>then you plug the fire TV stick back in. It

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<v Speaker 1>will say make sure you see that screen that says

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<v Speaker 1>remote can be detected. Then you put the batteries back

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<v Speaker 1>of the remote, then you press the home button, and

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<v Speaker 1>if the leid indicator on your remote blinks blue, it

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<v Speaker 1>is paired successfully. So those are all the steps. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a lot Rosemary, but it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>these things where you have to kind of start at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning and make sure that things are working properly

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<v Speaker 1>before we can say, okay, there's a problem with the

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<v Speaker 1>remote or there's a problem with the fire stick. But

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<v Speaker 1>either way, sometimes these things just go bad and it

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<v Speaker 1>could be that you have a bad remote you need

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<v Speaker 1>to get a new one, or it could be that

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<v Speaker 1>the fire stick went bad. Was what was the message

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<v Speaker 1>on the TV screen? You told me you had.

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<v Speaker 4>The message that popped up which we never got before

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<v Speaker 4>we upgraded to that new spectrum Fox was unknown device detected?

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<v Speaker 1>And that was that generated on the TV? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>that generated from the actual on the TV?

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<v Speaker 4>And we were not on fire sticks? O? Fine, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so that watching regular channels?

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<v Speaker 1>What type of TV do you have? What brand?

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<v Speaker 6>It's an LG.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a smart TV, which is why we bought

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<v Speaker 4>the fire sticks. But it is an LG.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so, uh, that's that's an odd message. I'm not

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>sure why that came up. It is is your is

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>your TV connected to Wi Fi or internet?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's connected everything through spectrum, But is.

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<v Speaker 1>The TV because you said it's not a smart TV,

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<v Speaker 1>So do you have that connected to your networking anyway?

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<v Speaker 4>No, everything is connected through the box through the Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we have Wi Fi spectrum. Everything we have

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<v Speaker 4>to phone the internet.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the channel box.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything on that. The TV is just it's just a

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<v Speaker 4>cable coming running through it. It changed out the cable

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<v Speaker 4>and it's just plugged into the outlet.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? And do you have another TV as well

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<v Speaker 1>in your house?

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<v Speaker 4>We plugged that one for okay, other.

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<v Speaker 1>Reasons because I was going to say, because you could

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<v Speaker 1>test this fire TV stick on that TV as well

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<v Speaker 1>and see how long have you had this fire to

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<v Speaker 1>know what?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we can, we can, we can, We still can

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<v Speaker 4>do that. We will do that and try that. But

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<v Speaker 4>I will remember everything that you told me because I.

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<v Speaker 6>Was taking notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, very good, and I will link up everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>will link up the the instructions, the official Amazon instructions,

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes there are some other instructions out there that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't proper, but I'll put the Amazon ones on the

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<v Speaker 1>website on the show notes. To get to the show

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<v Speaker 1>notes rich on tech dot TV, you hit the light

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<v Speaker 1>bulb up at the top. This is show number sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and so just look for your question and I put

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<v Speaker 1>the link right in there, and it's in real time,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can go there right now and find that link. Rosemary,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for the call. Appreciate it. Oop Sorry, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So man, those things that is so so tricky when

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff happens eighty eight rich one on one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what the latest was on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the TikTok stuff last week when I talked to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but the president has signed a law that bans TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the video you know, you know, TikTok. It's

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<v Speaker 1>owned by the Chinese company Byte Dance. So at this

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<v Speaker 1>point they now have nine months to sell TikTok to

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<v Speaker 1>a US company. If a sale is in progress and

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<v Speaker 1>there's progress being made, they can get an extra three

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<v Speaker 1>months to complete the sale. If they don't do this,

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<v Speaker 1>the app will be banned in the United States. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking almost a year from now, Okay, so we still

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<v Speaker 1>have a whole year for the legal ramifications of this

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<v Speaker 1>and the debate and all that good stuff. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we stand right now. We don't know if this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be banned officially, but right now, as

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<v Speaker 1>it stands in the US, TikTok has to be sold

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<v Speaker 1>or banned. But we still have a year for this

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<v Speaker 1>to all sort of figure itself out. You are listening

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<v Speaker 1>or Twitter or X or X or Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>LinkedIn so many places, and then I've got some other

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>links there as well. Sign up for the newsletter for

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>sure while you're there. It's a great, great easy read.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I usually send it out on Saturday mornings. You could

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>drink your coffee with it and you'll be like, Oh,

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I need to bookmark that. Oh I need to book

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh I need Oh that's I need to download that.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a good website. So you'll have a lot there.

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<v Speaker 1>Got an email from one of the earlier callers, Parry

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<v Speaker 1>in uh, I guess it was Parry, not Perry Parry

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and Glendale Hope all as well. Thanks for taking my

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>call and your insight success. I deleted my email account

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and reloaded it and everything is fine. Now where's the

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:34.919
<v Speaker 1>clapping now here? It is? There, it is. We've got

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>a live studio audience in here. They got to hold

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>up that applause signed for them. Okay, let's see. Oh,

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Kim hold on. Kim is telling me it must be

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>pronounced the same because he said Perry like Perry Mason. Okay, well,

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe Perry is Perry Parry Perry Tomato tomato. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Jose in Santa Clara, California. You're on with Wretch.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a first time caller. And here's my situation. My

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 6>local internet at home. It's Comcast and I have a

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 6>two on one cable motormen router. So what was going

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 6>on was I was renting this box for five years

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 6>from Comcast. I decided the rent is too high to

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 6>rent this box. I bought the same exact box at

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 6>the local best by. I brought it home and I

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 6>own it. And when I brought it home, I had

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.760
<v Speaker 6>Comcasts install it. When I installed it on the unit,

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 6>it's called an airis two on one motive and router,

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 6>and it was a basic sticker on the side with

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 6>a generic password and user ID. Comcast hooked it up.

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 6>In the last five years, I've never changed the user

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 6>ID or password. And I have no idea how to

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 6>update the software if I need to. I have no

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 6>idea how to log into the RAS box itself. Do

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 6>I have a FireWire? I have no idea. Am I

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 6>expecting problems? Am I idiot? Tell me what should I do?

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, You're not an idiot, that's for sure, Especially the

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 1>fact that you're thinking about this stuff. That tells me

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that you have a high level of intelligence. So good

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>job there. So a couple couple of things Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>how much were you paying for the rental and how

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<v Speaker 1>much did this motive for five years? Oh wow?

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 6>And I bought the modem at the local best buy

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 6>for one plus act five years ago. Had a generic

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 6>password and modem password on the side of the unit, right,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't even say you what it is so basic?

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm thinking that probably every fifth unit has the

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 6>same password and the same user ID. I've never changed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so I mean, yes I would. I would

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>probably change that. So a couple things just to break

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>down your question. So it looks like your break even

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>with this new modem was about seventeen months, and so

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>what I typically recommend, you know, I think that if

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>your company is charging you the modem rental fee, you know,

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it's tough because if you're staying there for a long

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 1>time then and it's it might be better to buy your

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>own modem. I think sometimes the companies take a little

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>hands off approach where they kind of scare you and say, oh, well,

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>if you buy your own modem, we're not going to

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>help you, and you know that's on you. And then

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 1>of course that scares people away from doing what she did.

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 1>But once you get it set up. These things are

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty much set it and forget it. The technology on

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>modems does not drastically change over you know, the course

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of time like you know, so a modem lasts a

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>really long time most of the time. So anyway, so

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to answer your question number one, I think that if

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a modem that is rented from the company,

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>typically they are sending through software updates and things like that,

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:46.399
<v Speaker 1>so you since you purchased this modem now. Also, most

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of the modems these days, the wife are the username

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>of the password are typically not generic. Now, the user

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>ID might be admin, but typically from what I've seen,

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>the passwords are are pretty complex. So if you do

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>have a complex password but it's still admin, then you know,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I think you're fine there. Now. If it's admin and

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>then the word password for the login, then I would

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.919
<v Speaker 1>definitely change it. But I think most of the tech

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>companies with these products have gotten a little bit better

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>about not using admin password as the password. And again

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that's so the way to access this. If you want

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to go through and update that information and also update

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the firmware on this modem, what I would do is

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 1>look on the bottom of the modem. It might even

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>be on that same exact sticker that you're talking about

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 1>that's on the modem, and typically it will have an

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 1>IP address, so it might be something like one nine

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to two dot one six ' eight dot zero dot one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of the default. And so you go to

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<v Speaker 1>your web browser on your computer. Make sure your computer

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>is directly connected to this modem. Don't do it over

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi because you may disconnect the Wi Fi and

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>then you're going to have a problem. So make sure

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the computer is directly connected with a cable to the

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>modem if you're trying to make any changes to this modem.

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Very very important there. So go to that address on

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>your computer and it should bring up a login screen.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 1>That login screen will log you into that modem directly,

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you can go through and you can check

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>for a software update or a firmware update, I should say,

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and you can also change the password. Now I'm telling

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you this as what you can do. I'm not necessarily

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>saying you should do this. This is a little bit

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:36.359
<v Speaker 1>of a higher level of tinkering, and if you are

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>not fully tech savvy, I don't typically recommend the average

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.240
<v Speaker 1>person should do this, because if you make any changes

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>on that modem. You see a setting in there, you're like, oh,

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.879
<v Speaker 1>that looks cool. Let me flip that switch and see

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 1>if the Internet is faster in my house. You may

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>have some problems and then you may have to call

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 1>your cable company to have them come out and fix it,

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and they're not going to be happy and they're going

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to charge you so and you're going to be without

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>internet for a while. So I would not change these

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 1>things unless you know what you're doing. Now with that said,

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>if you want to see what your options are for

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, you can Google search the RIS ar R

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I S which is the brand of the modem that

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you just talked about, and the modem model number, and

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>you should see some of the support pages for that.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 1>So if you go to the RIS website, they've got

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like at the bottom it says support and you can

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>look up. They actually have a picture of every modem

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>that they make and you can tap it and see

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>your modem and see the information for it. But again,

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>if you have a modem that you're renting from a

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>company like Charter or Spectrum or Exfinity or whatever these

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>companies are, typically they are sending through the required software updates,

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and when your modem resets, it will install those software

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>updates or keep saying software, but it's really firmware updates,

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and they're pretty rare most most of the time. You know,

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>there's not too many. Now, if you have something like

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the more modern router modem setups like an

0:42:56.080 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Ero or you know these what's the other brand that

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>everyone has, any of these mesh networks, they are typically

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>doing their own software updates all the time, so they're

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>getting software updates a lot. And so again, if you

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 1>have the app on your phone, it should tell you, hey,

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna update or we updated your software overnight. I

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>typically get those email or those notifications from mine all

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the time. So that's my recommendation. But if you if

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:23.879
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you need to change that password because

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a really generic, simple one, then go ahead and

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>change it. But you know, don't don't tinker too much

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>unless you really know what you're doing, because some of

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, once you change it, it could be messed up.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.399
<v Speaker 1>And believe me, I've done that. I've you know, I've

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>done the thing where I connect and then it's like

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you know this and that, So just be careful anytime

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you're you're changing those settings. Let's see Samsung eight eight

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to two four one zero one. Samsung rumor mill says

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the next Galaxy Unpacked event date will be on July

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Uly tenth, twenty twenty four, in Paris, France. Why Paris, Well,

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>they are Samsung is a sponsor of the Olympics, and

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that makes a lot of sense. Now the date July tenth,

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. I'm trying to think when Unpacked was

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in South Korea. That's the one I went to last year.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it was around that time. Let's see

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 1>when was it July twenty seventh? So is the end

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of July July twenty sixth? Yeah, in South Korea? I

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>went to that one. I hope to go to this

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 1>one wherever it is. And let's see here, what are

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>we going to hear about at Samsung's next Galaxy Unpacked event.

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 1>This is not the event for the S twenty five

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>that we are still on. The S twenty four those

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>are typically on a cycle that goes from February to February.

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>This is for the foldable devices. Those are on a

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>cycle from July to July. So there's a cadence with

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Samsung where they put out their S twenty, their S

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>series in the early part of the year, and then

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the foldables in the summer. So we're talking the Galaxy

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Z Flip, the Galaxy Z Fold, but there's also going

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>to be the Galaxy Ring. This is their first smart ring.

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>So we've got the Galaxy z Fold six, the Galaxy

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>z Flip six, the Galaxy Watch seven, new wireless earbuds.

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>And again this is all rumor mill this is not

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>this is not set in stone. Samsung has not announced this.

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just telling you for planning reasons. If you're

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>thinking of maybe getting a new foldable, you know, either way,

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 1>if you want the latest, greatest, obviously wait until after

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the event in July. Or if you want to discount

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>on the current ones you've had your eye on them,

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>wait until the event in July. So we're in that

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of in between phase right now. Now. It's only

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, the end of April, so you've got May, June, July.

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 1>You still have three months to make a decision here.

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, just keeping you up to date. Eight to

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<v Speaker 1>eight Rich one eight eight eight seven four to two

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. Find me online. Rich on Tech

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 1>dot TV Coming up. I'm gonna tell you why you

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 1>should not solve a fifty dollars problem with one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology with

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<v Speaker 1>you at eight eight eight rich one O one eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up this hour JR. Ray Fiel, tech writer and

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<v Speaker 1>author of the Android Intelligence newsletter. He is going to

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 1>talk all things Android, give us the update on the

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:47.760
<v Speaker 1>new features coming out on Android, and also a preview

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.359
<v Speaker 1>of what's happening at Google Io a couple of weeks here.

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited to talk to JR. Eighty eight rich

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<v Speaker 1>one O one eight eight eight seven four to two

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. So I get a call. I'm

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>on a run this morning, as I typically run before

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the show, and I get a call from my dad.

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I've got a rule when my parents

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>call or my family, I answer the phone, no matter

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. And so I answer the call, and hey, Rich,

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm at the store. My iPhone won't charge. What do

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you mean? I won't charge, you know, cee iPhone. I

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 1>gave them, by the way, so I typically give my

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 1>old devices to a family member instead of selling them.

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, somehow the issue is still mine

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>because it's a phone that I gave them. So I said,

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean it doesn't charge? Well, I plugged

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.919
<v Speaker 1>it in overnight and it just has a big red

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 1>battery and it says still find a ble. I said, well,

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>sounds like the battery is not charging. Well, I'm here

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>at the Apple store and that's what they said. But

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 1>they plugged it in and it charges just fine. It

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>comes right on. I said, well, sounds like you're charger

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is not working. Okay, So you don't think I need

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a new phone. No, I don't think you need a

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>new phone. You just need a new charger. And so

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>my thesis here don't solve a fifty dollars problem with

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars. So depending on who you get at

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the store that you're at, right, And it seemed like

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 1>he had someone that had the heart of a teacher.

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 1>So I like that he was with someone that said,

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, here's your options. But you know, you could

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>be in a situation where you have an issue with

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>your tech and it's a very simple issue, and someone

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that's advising you is giving you a very expensive solution.

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>So this could have been a very expensive solution where

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they said, Okay, your thing's not charging, let's get you

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a new phone. And in fact, this person did show

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:44.320
<v Speaker 1>them on the battery indicator, and so this might have

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:46.399
<v Speaker 1>been a little bit of a salesy kind of thing.

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>But you can go on most phones, Android and iPhone

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 1>at this point into your battery health and see what

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>your battery health is. And so my battery health right now,

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm at ninety nine percent maximum capacity, and I forget

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>on the Samsung we talked about this, I think you

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>have to download a separate app to get the battery health.

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I think like a Samsung Members app or

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>something like that. But that'll tell you the maximum capacity

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>of your battery. So if you've been using your phone

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and charging it over and over, you know for a

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>couple of years, your battery capacity is not going to

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:30.280
<v Speaker 1>be one hundred percent anymore because your battery degrades over time,

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and so your battery capacity maybe eighty five percent. So

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:37.839
<v Speaker 1>if your phone used to last six hours or let's say,

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you know on screen screen time, and now it's only

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>lasting five It could be because your battery is just

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.479
<v Speaker 1>not charging the same way it used to charge. Doesn't

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>mean your phone needs to be replaced. It just means

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>your battery doesn't last as long. So anyway, he did

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>say his battery was at seventy nine percent, you know,

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the battery capacity, And I said, well, yeah, your phone's

0:49:57.440 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years old, so it's going to be.

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a hand me down phone that I

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 1>used for a couple of years and now I gave

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it to you, so it's going to be at seventy

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>nine percent. Does that mean it's no good? Absolutely not.

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's still fine until it doesn't work for

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you anymore. Now, if you were having to charge it

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 1>every half an hour throughout the day, yeah, that'd be

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a problem. But anyway, so I said, here's my solution,

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Number one. Clean out the port on the phone, the

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 1>charging port, because he said it wasn't charging in the car,

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't charging at home. Because I said, try different chargers, No,

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 1>none of them are working except the one here at

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the Apple store. Well, it sounds like it's the charger.

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>The port so clean out the port. He said, oh,

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're doing. I said, okay, we'll start with that.

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, you can use

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:42.760
<v Speaker 1>wireless charging and try that. So go buy a wireless charger,

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>spend the thirty forty bucks whatever it is for the

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 1>cable and use that. And if you're if the bottom

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>cable doesn't work ever again, which sounds like it was

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.240
<v Speaker 1>working anyway, so that was it, and he bought the cable.

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard the update, but my point is, don't

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>solve don't solve a cheap problem with an expensive solution.

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>This happens all the time in the tech world. We

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>throw stuff away, we buy something new. You know. It's

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:11.840
<v Speaker 1>one of these things where go through the steps of

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 1>figuring out what is happening. Maybe you just need a

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.799
<v Speaker 1>software update. Like a good example, your phone is just

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 1>being wonky, right, and it's just giving you all kinds

0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:23.839
<v Speaker 1>of error messages and it's slow whatever. Well, before you

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:25.719
<v Speaker 1>buy a new phone and spend all that money on

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a new phone, why not just do a factory reset

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of your phone. Make sure it's backed up before you

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>do that, but do that factory reset, and then you

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>can get a clean start and once you reinstall your

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>apps and whatever, and if you're still having problems, then

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you can get a new phone. But again, don't just

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>like throw away stuff because it's not working properly. Talk

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 1>to someone that knows what they're doing. Get them to

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.799
<v Speaker 1>help you out figure this stuff out. It's probably a

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>cheaper solution than getting something new now some tech. Clearly

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:59.360
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, cheaper to get new tech, like in

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the case of the fire TV stick. The woman we

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:06.879
<v Speaker 1>talked to earlier. If if all those troubleshooting solutions don't work, yeah,

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 1>just spend the thirty five bucks on a new Fire

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>TV stick. But again, use your judgment. Eighty to eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one on one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. Rich on Tech dot tv

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<v Speaker 1>is the website for the show. Coming up, we are

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 1>going to talk to the author of the Android Intelligence newsletter.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk all things android. You're listening to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro

0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 1>here hanging out with you, talking technology. Let's welcome to

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the show Jr. Raphael tech writer and author of the

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Android Intelligence newsletter Jr. Thanks for joining me. Hey, Rich

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:54.240
<v Speaker 1>great to be here, Thanks for having me, Thanks for chatting.

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's actually it's funny. We we scheduled you to

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 1>come on the show a long time ago. And of

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>course this is kind of like the quiet time in

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the world of Android because we've got Google Io coming

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>up in just a couple of weeks. So typically they

0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:11.839
<v Speaker 1>put out all their stuff that they want to get

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 1>out before the big announcements of io. Explain what Google

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>io is for maybe someone who doesn't know, Yeah, sure,

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Apple has an equivalent, they call it WWDC.

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 7>He's all started out as really geeky developer conferences, and

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.240
<v Speaker 7>they still are to some degree, but they've also become

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:34.280
<v Speaker 7>a little bit of a showcase for the companies to

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 7>show off their latest and greatest stuff. You know, we'll

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 7>always see or at least hear about a new Android version.

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 7>We'll see some new hardware, some new pixel devices, and

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 7>kind of get a big picture overview of what they're

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 7>working on, where they're taking things in.

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:47.919
<v Speaker 1>The next year.

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 7>And then there will be the super technical developer stuff

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 7>as well. But as far as the keynote goes, that's

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 7>really become at least half, if not more kind of

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 7>aimed at average normal people as opposed to developlopers and

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 7>kind of like sort of the state of the Union

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 7>for Google and what's new, What's next, all.

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 1>That kind of stuff, which I love because I love

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 1>seeing what they're doing and working on. But I'll tell

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 1>you what annoys me about it is that I see

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.919
<v Speaker 1>all this cool stuff and then they're like, yeah, it's

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:17.800
<v Speaker 1>coming sometime, and it's like, you know, it takes it

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:20.279
<v Speaker 1>sometimes takes a year for that stuff to actually, like

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.719
<v Speaker 1>until almost like the next ioe for some of those

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 1>features to be released. Yeah, Google and all the tech

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>companies through that. To some degree.

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<v Speaker 7>Google is particularly bad about it, to the point where

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<v Speaker 7>among people who write about and even sort of the

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 7>hardcore Android enthusiasts and fans and Google service fans, it's

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 7>become an ongoing joke.

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>It's sort of the catchphrase is that it'll.

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<v Speaker 7>Reach you in the coming months, and they don't even

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:44.919
<v Speaker 7>give you you know, it's not like in two weeks

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:46.320
<v Speaker 7>or in three weeks. It's in the coming months, and

0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 7>as you said, that could be seven weeks, it could

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 7>be a year. Every now and then there's something that

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 7>this announced, it never even comes out, so you do

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 7>have to take a certain grain assault that, uh, this

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 7>is what they're working on, and then yeah, you can

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 7>kind of gauge it a little a new and version,

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah that's going to come out at a certain cadence.

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:06.880
<v Speaker 7>But when it comes to the loftier, really high tech, ambitious,

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 7>cutting edge stuff, sometimes it's still a little more conceptual

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 7>when they're showing it off in an event like this.

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I always say the worst phrase in the tech world

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:19.239
<v Speaker 1>is rolling out to users over thenext dot dot dot,

0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:21.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, no, when I hear something, I want

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 1>it immediately. I want that feature the second that it's available,

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 1>which is right now, because you just told me about it.

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Which is one thing I kind of like about the

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Apple side of things is that when they come out

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>with a software update, everyone gets it at the same time,

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:40.399
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's pretty you know, blanketed. Versus Google, it's like, oh,

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>depending on the phone you have, depending on the model,

0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>depending on this that. So anyway, I don't want to

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:47.400
<v Speaker 1>harp on all the negative. Let's talk about the positive.

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 1>So what are you looking forward to at Google io

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:50.640
<v Speaker 1>this year?

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:53.799
<v Speaker 7>So you know, they're always surprises, and I think those

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.880
<v Speaker 7>are always the most interesting because the stuff we're expecting,

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:58.759
<v Speaker 7>the new Android version and Roid fifteen we've been hearing

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 7>about it is in beta. You know, we're at the

0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 7>point where a new software version usually isn't earth shattering,

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:04.399
<v Speaker 7>it's nice.

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of little niceties.

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 7>I think what'll be most exciting is to see what

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:11.359
<v Speaker 7>we're not expecting yet. There's obviously a lot going on

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 7>on the AI front with artificial intelligence, varying degrees of

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:16.479
<v Speaker 7>should you care?

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Is it really going to do anything?

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 7>But but we know that'll be a common theme, a

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.839
<v Speaker 7>core thread of almost everything coming up at this year's event.

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 7>More than anything, I'd like to see a cohesive vision

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:27.319
<v Speaker 7>for how this stuff is going to show up and

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 7>why why we should be excited about it. Not just

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.880
<v Speaker 7>because we can or because everyone else is doing it

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:34.960
<v Speaker 7>and it's table stakes right now. But here's what it'll

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 7>do for you, you know, in a practical, realistic sense,

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 7>and how it will help you today, tomorrow, in the.

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Coming weeks, whatever the case is for me.

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:44.479
<v Speaker 7>Google's always at its best when it's forging its own path,

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:47.279
<v Speaker 7>when it's coming up with something new and unusual. That's

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 7>always been true for Android when it's leading the way

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 7>doing something different as opposed to just copying and catching up.

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 7>And you know, all sides, Apple, Google, both they kind

0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.279
<v Speaker 7>of go back and forth between here's a cool new

0:56:58.280 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 7>thing and oh yeah, here's what the.

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Other guys did six months ago, and we're going to

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:03.680
<v Speaker 1>catch up. So it'd be nice to see more of that.

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 7>Specifically, in terms of hardware, I'm pretty interested to see

0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 7>the next wave of Google made Pixel products.

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 1>We're usually around this time.

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:12.759
<v Speaker 7>We don't see them all, but we'll see probably the

0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:15.120
<v Speaker 7>Pixel eight A, which is kind of their mid range,

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 7>more affordable phone. This will be the first year that

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 7>more than likely nothing officially yet, but more than likely

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 7>it'll come with a promise of seven years of software updates.

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:25.800
<v Speaker 7>So I think that's gonna be the big story with that,

0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 7>you know, for a phone the sills.

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like probably my number one phone

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>recommendation to the average person is the Pixel A series,

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>because and I get it, iPhones are great, but like

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>if you want something that's like inexpensive but really good

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and just lasts forever, those are great devices.

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 7>Well they're great, and you know they were great for

0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.200
<v Speaker 7>three years of software support, which was the previous standard.

0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 7>If they're coming with seven Now, you know we're talking

0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 7>this year's well, this past year's model, the seven A

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 7>was five hundred bucks.

0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 1>It's eventually marked down. I think now you can get

0:57:59.040 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it for like.

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 7>Maybe three fifth So even if this year's is the

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:03.960
<v Speaker 7>same a little more, I mean you divide that out

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 7>by seven years a bit guaranteed to remain current. And

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 7>because Google makes it unlike when you get into phones

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:12.800
<v Speaker 7>by Samsung, Motorola or as you said before, as kind

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 7>of any man's land as to if and went up

0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 7>base will reach you a Google phone, you get him

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 7>on the same day or within a few days when

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 7>they come out. I mean you're talking about eighty five

0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 7>bucks give or take a year for the full period

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 7>of advisable ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's up to date. That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 7>And then on the other end, there's also the pixel

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<v Speaker 7>fold to the second jan of Google's folding phone. We

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<v Speaker 7>don't know for sure that it'll come out this year.

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<v Speaker 7>It came out around this time last year, or was

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<v Speaker 7>at least discussed around this time initially, so I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Really interested to see how they move that forward.

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<v Speaker 7>The folding folding phone realm is just so new and

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:45.600
<v Speaker 7>unusual and a lot to be proven there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm intrigued by that for sure. What is your

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<v Speaker 1>preferred device the at this point?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you gone foldable or you you know you Samsung?

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<v Speaker 1>You Google? What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 7>I always use and recommend Google's own Pixel phones for

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:00.960
<v Speaker 7>most people. A large part of it is just what

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<v Speaker 7>we were talking about with the updates. Samsung does a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of things well, but it's not consistent when it

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<v Speaker 7>comes to providing those software updates, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 7>can say, who cares. Some people don't worry about it,

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<v Speaker 7>but there's a lot of important under the hood things

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<v Speaker 7>going on in terms of security, privacy, all that. So

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<v Speaker 7>for me, I carry the Pixel eight Pro, kind of

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<v Speaker 7>a higher end model of last year's main flagship. I

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<v Speaker 7>spent a lot of time with the Pixel fold. I

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<v Speaker 7>really liked it and was super tempted. It was at

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<v Speaker 7>the point where I could see myself going there, maybe

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<v Speaker 7>with another generation or two. I wasn't quite one over yet,

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<v Speaker 7>but it was really the first folding phone that I

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<v Speaker 7>could see myself using between the form the software. Unlike

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<v Speaker 7>the other foldables we've seen in the States so far,

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<v Speaker 7>when it's folded up, it's not just like an awkwardly

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<v Speaker 7>skinny candy bar, like a remote control. It was just

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<v Speaker 7>kind of like a small phone and then when you

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<v Speaker 7>want something bigger, you can unfold it. I really liked it,

0:59:50.560 --> 0:59:52.440
<v Speaker 7>even though I didn't personally go for it yet, but

0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.040
<v Speaker 7>I could have very happily used it for the last

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<v Speaker 7>year and been you know, thrilled with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought I was going to use it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I I really do like it. It's just that that

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<v Speaker 1>small screen on the outside, even though it's a better

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<v Speaker 1>form factor than a lot of them, it just still

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I was cramped, and I just I hate

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that way when I'm like, well, these we have

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<v Speaker 1>so many great modern smartphones. And also I found myself

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<v Speaker 1>not opening up the inside screen ever, like why would

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<v Speaker 1>I need that, Like I just if I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, I'm gonna be on my computer or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be on a tablet. And so I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really see the point of having this thing that

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<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't put a case on. You know, it's heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hot, and it's just you know, it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>best camera on the pixel anyway. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't back to the Samsung stuff. I don't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be the Samsung defender here, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>say that Samsung has really stepped up their game in

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<v Speaker 1>the past year or two when it comes to software updates.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they are doing a much much better job

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<v Speaker 1>than they ever have, especially with how many phones they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do updates with. So I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>that has gotten a lot better in that aspect. So, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I want to I gets to me because I

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<v Speaker 1>know you write the Android Intelligence newsletter. I want people

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<v Speaker 1>to get some cool apps and things. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any like killer Android apps you should download or

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<v Speaker 1>any tips that we should know? Yeah? Sure. So.

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<v Speaker 7>One one of my favorites, and this is sort of

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<v Speaker 7>one of those Android power user tools that you don't

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<v Speaker 7>hear about and you know, average people aren't aware of,

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<v Speaker 7>but you should know about, is something called buzzkill.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the best way I can describe.

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<v Speaker 7>It is kind of like Gmail filters, but for your

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<v Speaker 7>phone's notifications. So you can set up it's super simple

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<v Speaker 7>to do. You just set up these like if this,

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<v Speaker 7>then that rule. So for instance, some things I use

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<v Speaker 7>it for like if I get a notification from my

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<v Speaker 7>Messages app that has my wife's name in it, meaning

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<v Speaker 7>it came from her. I can tell my phone, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>remind me about this every few minutes, every two minutes

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<v Speaker 7>or ey four minutes, whatever until I acknowledge it, because

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<v Speaker 7>you know somebody's hear you get a buzz in your pocket,

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<v Speaker 7>you don't notice if it's something important, maybe you do

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<v Speaker 7>your boss's name whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you also have set ignore forever just asking for

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<v Speaker 1>a friend.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, And that's my second example. So with my brother,

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<v Speaker 7>love him to death, but he's one of those people

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<v Speaker 7>who will text like rapid fire, incessantly, lots of little messages,

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<v Speaker 7>which you know, fine, whatever, but it reaches a point

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<v Speaker 7>where you're in the middle of something and you feel

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<v Speaker 7>the buzz, then another buzz, then another buzz, and you

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<v Speaker 7>know it's like, I get it, you're messaging me. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't need to have a notification for like every seven

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<v Speaker 7>times you hit to the entry key. So with him,

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't said to you when it has messages with

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<v Speaker 7>his name, don't let it alert me more than once

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<v Speaker 7>every five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can do a lot of cool stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's so easy.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's kind of programming, but it's literally just

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<v Speaker 7>if this, then that you tap a thing and you

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<v Speaker 7>fill in the blanks of if this happens, and you

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<v Speaker 7>know it gives you the feels to put then do this.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's really one of my favorite kind of next

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<v Speaker 7>level power user tools. That's also one of the kind

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<v Speaker 7>of cool things that's something unique to Android because of

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<v Speaker 7>the way it's able to tap into the system and

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<v Speaker 7>do certain things that Apple doesn't typically allow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and Apple doesn't allow a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that. It's funny because like ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of my answers for people when they're like, why can't

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<v Speaker 1>I do this on my phone? I'm like, well, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't allow that. That's number one, and so let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But you can work around it by maybe

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. So all right, tell us about how to

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<v Speaker 1>get the newsletter.

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<v Speaker 7>So if you just go to the Intelligence dot com,

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<v Speaker 7>we've actually got a few.

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<v Speaker 1>So I write one called Android Intelligence.

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<v Speaker 7>Colleague of mine Chris Hoffman, who I think you spoke

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<v Speaker 7>with a handful of weeks ago, actually yes, writ it's

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<v Speaker 7>a great newsletter all about Windows called Windows Intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we do one together called Cool Tools that comes.

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<v Speaker 7>Out once a week and just introduces you to one

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<v Speaker 7>interesting off the beaten path tools that will work on

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<v Speaker 7>any any kind of device you want, phone, computer, you

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<v Speaker 7>name it. So it's all there at the Intelligence dot

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<v Speaker 7>Com and you can pick and choose whichever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, JR. Rayfield, thanks so much for joining me

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<v Speaker 1>today on the show. Appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to chat. All right. I will put the the

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<v Speaker 1>Buzzkill app on the website rich on Tech dot tv,

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a question about technology, you can be

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<v Speaker 1>called eight eight eight rich one oh one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four two four one zero one. Not to

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<v Speaker 1>be remiss. Coming up, I will tell you about the

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<v Speaker 1>next Apple event happening soon. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology. The

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<v Speaker 1>phone number eight eight eight rich one one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one. So

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about Google Io. Apple has a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things coming up as well. So coming up very soon

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<v Speaker 1>is the company's Spring event. This is happening on May seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a virtual event. As far as I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I only got invited to a please watch on your

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<v Speaker 1>computer screen. And so it's called the let loose event.

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<v Speaker 1>And what are we expecting? So the image, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple always sends out these invitations to journalists and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a logo. Usually it's the Apple logo, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's done in a way that people read into it, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's this going to mean for the event. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a particular color they use that might be the

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<v Speaker 1>new color of the phone. Sometimes it's the animation that

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<v Speaker 1>they show on their social media and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is for VR. This one looked like an

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<v Speaker 1>Apple pencil sketching something and so and typically this is

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<v Speaker 1>the time when we see the new iPads. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is what we are expecting new iPad pros. And according

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<v Speaker 1>to Bloomberg's Mark German, he has been saying that this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the most significant redesign of the

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<v Speaker 1>iPad pros in years. I don't know what that means exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're already pretty forward facing. They've got USBC. The

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<v Speaker 1>rumor says that they're going to change the front facing

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<v Speaker 1>camera to a better location for video chatting. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on if you hold it to the side horizontally.

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<v Speaker 1>The cameras on the left side, which is not ideal

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<v Speaker 1>for video chatting. So on a computer it's up at

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<v Speaker 1>the top right, so that's theoretically where the camera is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be moved. Let's see what else. New processors.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously that's always a thing they do. Better screen technology.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something they typically upgrade new sizes. So the iPad

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<v Speaker 1>air maybe an eleven inch and a twelve point nine inch,

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<v Speaker 1>so they will make bigger screens there. Let's see the

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<v Speaker 1>magic keyboard, which is the keyboard attachment that's always more

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<v Speaker 1>expensive than you think. If you go into the Apple store,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I'll take one of those keyboards. You're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>how much what? They're very expensive. Apparently that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be updated for a more laptop like experience, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the Apple pencil itself might get new tips. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from the Verge. They say they might be getting interchangeable

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic tips and a squeeze gesture. They already have a

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<v Speaker 1>gesture on there, like a tap gesture, so maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze is like the next evolution of that. iPads are

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that I don't think anyone is

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<v Speaker 1>like waiting necessarily for a new iPad. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that like when you go in

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like this is happening with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the technology. Unless it's something that's like super cutting edge,

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<v Speaker 1>most people are just when they go in for that

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<v Speaker 1>next upgrade, they're just like, oh, that's cool, it has this,

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<v Speaker 1>it has that, and now I need to decide between

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<v Speaker 1>these different models. But it used to be remember when

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<v Speaker 1>like a new phone would come out and they would

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<v Speaker 1>have a feature where we're like, I need that, now

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<v Speaker 1>I need to upgrade. Now with these new tech cycles

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<v Speaker 1>where things are just getting refined, people are more just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool. I'll wait until my upgrade and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have that feature. So there you go. Verizon a five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars monthly price hike for the Apple Watch smartphone smart

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<v Speaker 1>watch plans. So if you have a smart watch with Verizon,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably got an email from them that says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're raising the price of your smart watch plan by

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars a month. So it used to be ten

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month. Now it's fifteen dollars a month. To

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<v Speaker 1>have cellular on a smart watch that is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>especially can say K because I looked up how much

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<v Speaker 1>data I used on my smart watch last month. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for this? Under two hundred megabytes? Then I

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<v Speaker 1>looked up how much my kid, who only has an

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Watch, used and it was like fifty megabytes. So

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<v Speaker 1>not a very good update of this plan because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is very expensive. Verizon says the price

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<v Speaker 1>increase will allow them to continue improving their network and services.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank you Verizon for allowing us to fund your

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<v Speaker 1>improvements of the network. Now I get it. It's a company.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to make money, they need to update their network.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand all of that, but on the backs of us,

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<v Speaker 1>all we want is an Apple Watch with cellular? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I have to pay the extra five bucks? So

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<v Speaker 1>I will be honest, all these price increases, so Verizon

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<v Speaker 1>had a one to two punch. Last month they raised

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<v Speaker 1>prices on their plans, their cellular plan, and then this

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<v Speaker 1>month they raised the Apple Watch plan. And so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, I switched my wife off of Verizon this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got this bill, I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>enough is enough? And so her her plan was about

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<v Speaker 1>ninety dollars a month, and now she's paying about forty

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<v Speaker 1>five a month, so it took me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of time. It took me about twenty minutes to make

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<v Speaker 1>the switch. But I switched her to a third party,

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<v Speaker 1>one of these mv and o's all unlimited, all included.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's scary, and I get it. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>people don't switch their cellular plans. This is why people

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<v Speaker 1>overpay so much. Do the math. If you're talking forty

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars a month times twelve months, that's almost six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars for the year. It took me about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to save that amount of money. Now is the

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<v Speaker 1>service going to be exactly the same? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I test things out. But it took

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty minutes to switch over, including poorting the phone

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<v Speaker 1>number over and that was the main thing my wife

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned about. She said, is everything going to work

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<v Speaker 1>the same? I said, yes, it should. Now there's always

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<v Speaker 1>that asterisk because there could be a problem. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you, do these companies make it simple to

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<v Speaker 1>pourt out your number? Not really? And I was sweating

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because there were some issues where it

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<v Speaker 1>was like you need to set up a pin number

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<v Speaker 1>and then you need to unlock the phone number, and

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<v Speaker 1>those one two things, like I had to keep going

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<v Speaker 1>back and like checking it, keep giving me errors, and

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<v Speaker 1>you only get five tries before they lock you out

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<v Speaker 1>of your account. So I was a little bit nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>and my wife was like, if I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>phone line when you leave for your radio show, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be happy. And I am happy to

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<v Speaker 1>report it did work out. But my point is, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to switch, if you want to take that dive,

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<v Speaker 1>read all the instructions and make sure you have all

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers in a row before you do anything, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you run into an issue, you could be without

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<v Speaker 1>your phone line for a bit. But if you get

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<v Speaker 1>it right, you could save some big bucks. Rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech dot tv is the website. More rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>after this, Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro

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<v Speaker 1>here hanging out with you talking technology at eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on Tech dot tv is the website. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what else. You can follow me on social media at

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech. I'm active on Instagram, Facebook, and x

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<v Speaker 1>maybe threads. I've been checking out a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>like a little little peak here in there, mostly because

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram really pushes it on you. Uh. Rick in San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego says, Hey, Rich, I'm not very tech savvy and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit paranoid when it comes to phone apps.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to use websites instead of apps. However, there

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<v Speaker 1>are times I have to use apps, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>some apps I would like to get. When it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to permissions, many state they can modify or delete the

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<v Speaker 1>contents of your shared storage and also state that they

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<v Speaker 1>can read the contents of your shared storage. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean exactly? Does that mean anything on my phone,

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<v Speaker 1>including emails, can be read and or deleted by the app?

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<v Speaker 1>If so, that seems it would be crazy for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to use the app. I realize most apps are legitimate,

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<v Speaker 1>but who knows. Plus the info they can get, I

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<v Speaker 1>worry they can be hacked. I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks, Rick,

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<v Speaker 1>good question. Rick, and I did sort of address this

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<v Speaker 1>in a show a while back, and in my newsletter

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<v Speaker 1>I said how your phone spies on you? And I

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<v Speaker 1>went through all the different categories of what apps can

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<v Speaker 1>access or request access to So let's be honest, most

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<v Speaker 1>apps need certain access to things to actually function. So

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to modifying or deleting the contents of

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<v Speaker 1>your shared storage, that means that they get a little

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<v Speaker 1>section of the storage space on your phone so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can read and write their own information. Most apps

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<v Speaker 1>would not be able to work if they did not

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<v Speaker 1>have that. Now the place where I would say, so

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<v Speaker 1>a couple things. Number one, I'm both it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you've an Android, because I don't think I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>that on an iPhone. But if you have an iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>or Android, you can go into on iPhone Privacy and

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<v Speaker 1>Security and then you can take a look at all

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<v Speaker 1>the different categories they have. So, for instance, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>look at contacts. Okay, So I'm looking at contacts and

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<v Speaker 1>I can see there are a whole bunch of apps

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<v Speaker 1>listed here that have access to my contacts. Amazon, Alexa, Gmail,

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<v Speaker 1>Google Calendar, Google Maps, Google Photos, Instagram, Meta Signal substacks, Sunshine, Teams, Telegram,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of others. If I want to revoke access,

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<v Speaker 1>like why does my metaview need access to my contacts?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it does. So I can turn that

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<v Speaker 1>off in the settings. Same thing on Android, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go through and look at your permissions. So go into

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<v Speaker 1>your settings and let's see where it is on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see Permission Manager, Security and Privacy Permission Manager. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we go into permissions, let's see permissions used in

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<v Speaker 1>last twenty four hours. Okay, then I underneath therasays permission manager.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's got body sensors, calendar, call logs, camera, contacts,

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<v Speaker 1>files and media health, connect location, microphone. So now let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say I'm curious about the microphone. So I can

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<v Speaker 1>see all of the apps that have access to my

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<v Speaker 1>microphone on my phone, and if you don't want one

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<v Speaker 1>of those apps to have access to your microphone, you

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<v Speaker 1>can turn it off. So, for instance, why does PayPal

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<v Speaker 1>need access to my microphone? Thankfully I have that microphone

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<v Speaker 1>access turned off because there's no reason why PayPal would

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<v Speaker 1>need my microphone. Looking through the ones that do have access,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's say Snapchat, you're like, well, why does that

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<v Speaker 1>need access to my microphone? That would be if you're

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<v Speaker 1>recording a video, it would want access to your microphone

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<v Speaker 1>to record your voice. So again, these are called permissions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you're onto something which is you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be very careful about the permissions that you allow

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<v Speaker 1>access to on these various apps. So if an app

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<v Speaker 1>is asked, you know, an app's job or goal is

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<v Speaker 1>to get access to as many things on your phone

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. And I mean, I get it. They're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to make money, they're trying to gather as

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<v Speaker 1>much data about you as possible. And there's even things like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you allow access to all of your photos.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been reports where apps can scan the photos

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<v Speaker 1>in your library and get an understanding of the metadata

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<v Speaker 1>inside those photos, so locations, places, people, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that happens with some of the popular apps, but

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<v Speaker 1>it probably does. And so again we just need to

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<v Speaker 1>be aware of these things and aware of the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the way I see it, is that your phone

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of your own garden, right, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things are trying to get into your garden to

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<v Speaker 1>eat the stuff that you're growing, which is your data.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you want to keep those things out as

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<v Speaker 1>much as possible. Like you have like a broom and

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like, you know, there's like a skunk come

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<v Speaker 1>in your way, and it's like get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>Get out of here, skunk or you know what eats

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, rabbit is coming to eat

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<v Speaker 1>the carrots. I don't know. It's a weird I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anyone's ever described the smartphone that way, but anyway, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why not. But the point is always be careful about

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<v Speaker 1>the permissions that you allow on your smartphone. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line. And now there is one thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>think you need to be very careful about, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these apps they ask to use Google as

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<v Speaker 1>a log in. Now, in general, I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>should not do that. I know it's convenient, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you should do that. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>is because these apps will sometimes ask for permissions that

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of out of whack. And what I mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that is that they may ask for permission to

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<v Speaker 1>see your Gmail. They may ask for a permission to

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<v Speaker 1>see your calendar, They may ask for permission to see

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<v Speaker 1>your contents of your Google Drive. And so you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be very careful about the apps that you allow

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<v Speaker 1>access to your Google account because that usually has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of information in it and what you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>on that screen. If it does ask for like let's

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<v Speaker 1>say access to your storage on your Google account. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that it says its own data inside Google Drive,

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<v Speaker 1>not just Google Drive blanketly. And if it's looking for

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<v Speaker 1>your Gmail access, be very careful about that. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>it says we want to be able to see delete

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, rewrite the access of your Gmail, just

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<v Speaker 1>be careful because why why shouldn'tn app need that? But

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<v Speaker 1>good question, Rick, I think most of the time, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're careful about that stuff, you should be okay, Diana

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<v Speaker 1>writes in on the website rich on tech Dot tv

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<v Speaker 1>uh in Covena, what password manager app do you use?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you you are the best? Well, thank you, Diana,

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<v Speaker 1>You're the best. So my recommendation for password managers, let

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<v Speaker 1>me go through is various fold Number one, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>should be using one. Number two. Here's my recommendations. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are only using Apple products, if you use nothing

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<v Speaker 1>else in the world except Apple products, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>just use iCloud keychain. It's built in. It's simple, it's

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<v Speaker 1>across all your Apple stuff. That includes Safari by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're using Safari and you know, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you have a Mac computer, an iPad, and an iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're using all Apple stuff, go ahead use iCloud keychain. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>it's free, it's included, and it's simple. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>using Chrome as your web browser and you want something

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<v Speaker 1>that's simple and built into Google, then you can go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and use Chrome's password manager and you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>see if you have passwords stored in here by going

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<v Speaker 1>to passwords dot Google dot com and that will bring

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<v Speaker 1>up your Google passwords if you have them. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>you may already have them in there, but again that

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<v Speaker 1>will work on Chrome. It will fill in your passwords

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<v Speaker 1>when you're browsing the web. It also works on your

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone or Android as well. On iPhone, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go into settings and look for autofill and if you

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<v Speaker 1>have the Google app or the Chrome web browser, you

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<v Speaker 1>can fill those passwords across your entire phone using Google Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think personally that a third party password manager

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<v Speaker 1>is always the best way to go, and so for

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<v Speaker 1>a free solution, I like Bitwarden. And what I like

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<v Speaker 1>about bitwarden is that it is very full featured and

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<v Speaker 1>it's free, so you can pretty much use bitwarden across

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<v Speaker 1>all of your devices for free, and it works on

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of platforms. The main thing to know about

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<v Speaker 1>these password managers is that they lock you in once

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<v Speaker 1>you get a whole bunch of passwords into them, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying every month or every year. It's tough to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you can, but most people don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. So Bitwarden is free and you get unlimited devices.

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<v Speaker 1>That is pretty nice, and it works across a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of devices. And the thing to look for in

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<v Speaker 1>a good password manager is the amount of devices you

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<v Speaker 1>can install it on, and also you know how much

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<v Speaker 1>it costs. Now if you want to step up from there,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want some extra features, then I like a

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<v Speaker 1>password manager called dash Lane. And there's also one called

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<v Speaker 1>one password, uh one the number one and then password

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<v Speaker 1>and again these work across all of your different devices,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the thing you want to look for. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>use an Android phone with a Mac computer, Maybe use

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<v Speaker 1>a Windows computer with an iPhone. You want something that

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<v Speaker 1>works across all of these devices, that you can fill

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<v Speaker 1>your passwords easily no matter what device you're on, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to pay for it, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think at this point, you know Bitwarden is a

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<v Speaker 1>great free password manager, but if you have to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is they're not that expensive, So I

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<v Speaker 1>would you know, if you want to support these companies

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<v Speaker 1>that are you know, saving your passwords for you, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>but is free, So that one's always nice, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I recommend. So I don't think there's one size

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<v Speaker 1>fits all for password managers because of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 1>just explained. Thanks for the question, appreciate it. Rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech dot tv is the website phone number eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>coming up this hour, Troy Hunt. He's gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what to do when your personal information is exposed in

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<v Speaker 1>a data breach, plus more of your questions coming up

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<v Speaker 1>right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking

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<v Speaker 1>technology at triple eight rich one O one. That's eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Email for the show rich on Tech dot tv. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the website. You can email me there or you can

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me tell you about what's on the

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<v Speaker 1>website real quick while I'm here. So a couple things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a little bit different than it has been

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, so if you haven't been in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. Redesigned it and hopefully it's easy and

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<v Speaker 1>self explanatory. But up at the top, I've got links

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<v Speaker 1>for my podcast, my TV segments tell you about the

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<v Speaker 1>radio show. Then there's a light bulb. The light bulb

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<v Speaker 1>will give you real time links to whatever I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. So if you're listening live and you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what was that, and you just said, just click the

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb. Then you've got contact, which is my email,

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<v Speaker 1>and front and center on the website is my newsletter.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you read the newsletter, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good information in there. I send one out every week typically,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you can scroll down and see my TV segments.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what else the podcast and some interesting interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the right you can see the social

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<v Speaker 1>media links that I've got on there, and I added

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<v Speaker 1>a new one referral links, so if there's different products

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<v Speaker 1>or things that I like, I can throw them in

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<v Speaker 1>there and then you get a couple bucks off if

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<v Speaker 1>you try them out. And let's talk about YouTube. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was interesting. So if you have an Apple TV,

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<v Speaker 1>they have that default screen saver that is basically those

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful videos that Apple has shot, you know, all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of cool landscapes and things which a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have grown to love. But YouTube has gotten slick and

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<v Speaker 1>now they show their own screen saver on Apple TV

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<v Speaker 1>and this comes from nine to five MAC. People are,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, complaining, saying, wait a second, why is YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>hijacking my Apple TV screensaver that I know and love.

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<v Speaker 1>So when a video is paused, the YouTube screen saver

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<v Speaker 1>shows a zooming slide show of YouTube thumbnail art. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably not very exciting when you're used to these

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful like Grand Canyon kind of landscapes. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a video pause, the YouTube screen saver shows a

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<v Speaker 1>screen show, a screen show of a slideshow of generic

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<v Speaker 1>still images from videos. Either way, these both don't sound good.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not seen this on my Apple TV. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. I have seen a very big trend by

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<v Speaker 1>all these streaming apps where when you pause the streaming app,

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<v Speaker 1>they show an AD and I thought that was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because it's actually quite genius because it gets your attention.

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<v Speaker 1>You pause your movie, and all of a sudden it

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<v Speaker 1>shows an AD. Now I have not seen this on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have seen it on Peacock and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Direct TV had it and maybe HBO Max. But the

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<v Speaker 1>workaround if you see if you're seeing the YouTube slide show,

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<v Speaker 1>when you want to see your Apple TV slideshow, basically

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<v Speaker 1>you go into the settings on your Apple TV, look

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<v Speaker 1>for screensaver, and you want to start the screensaver now

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<v Speaker 1>after two minutes, and that way it kind of it

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<v Speaker 1>goes before the YouTube screensaver. So, yeah, I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty funny. There is a keyboard me bobo. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you see this on Twitter? I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>saw this, but there's this meme where it's like, look

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<v Speaker 1>between the two letters and it basically urges users mostly

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<v Speaker 1>on what's that? Did you see it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean come on, I thought it was pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hilarious and creative. Yeah, I'm wondering who was at

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<v Speaker 1>boord to realize something like that. Did you so you

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<v Speaker 1>you saw this and you kind of looked. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of the examples was, uh, someone would say like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>will you go out with me? And the person would

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<v Speaker 1>say like sure, look between the letters H and L

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<v Speaker 1>on your keyboard and JK, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Just kidding it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of funny. So people are doing all, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously I was sitting there like searching the keyboard

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<v Speaker 1>for something that I could do. So here's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I came up with. I said, uh oh, my

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<v Speaker 1>kid came home with his report card today. I asked

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<v Speaker 1>him how he did. He said, look between the D

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<v Speaker 1>and the G and what is that? And F Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, goodwill, you'll say as they bring it home.

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<v Speaker 1>No help on that report. No, I know they're not,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just, I mean, I don't know. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was pretty funny. It's one of those things where, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just the I don't know where these

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<v Speaker 1>things come from. I mean, if I read more of

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<v Speaker 1>this story that I'm telling you about, i'd probably find

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<v Speaker 1>out where it was. Uh oh. It first emerged in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, I guess. Wow. Okay, so this has

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<v Speaker 1>been around for a while, but it just popped up

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. So if you see these things, you know

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<v Speaker 1>now you know what they mean. I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I find this. I'm not a fan of all the

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<v Speaker 1>internet culture, like the meme stuff that pops up. It's creative, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, very creative. And I was really trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find one. I did one that fell flat. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, these keyboard memes have gotten out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>I just heard Dave Matthews renamed his famous song. You

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<v Speaker 1>know he's got a song called the Space Between. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he renamed his song to look between the

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<v Speaker 1>C and the B. And what does it point to?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm telling them, I'm Michael Off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's a V and at points to the space

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<v Speaker 1>bar the space between. Anyway, that one was really tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that actually got like there was physical crickets

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<v Speaker 1>on my Twitter timeline because people were just like, no, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was your nerdiness coming out. Was I

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<v Speaker 1>was just reaching. I was reaching this strong. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a really strong reach. It just did not work. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought my my report card one was pretty good though.

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<v Speaker 1>That one was good. I laughed at that one. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it all right. How many times have you gotten

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<v Speaker 1>an alert? Oh, your information has shown up on the

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<v Speaker 1>dark web, or your information has been exposed in a

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<v Speaker 1>data breach? Coming up, Troy Hunt, creator of Have I

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<v Speaker 1>Been Poned dot Com, is gonna explain what to do

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<v Speaker 1>when your personal information is exposed. You're listening to rich

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<v Speaker 1>on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro

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<v Speaker 1>here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple eight

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<v Speaker 1>Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four

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<v Speaker 1>to two four one zero one. Well you've probably heard

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<v Speaker 1>me talk about the website Have I Been Poned? This

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<v Speaker 1>is a data breach website that lets you see if

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<v Speaker 1>your personal information has been compromised. Joining me now is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who created it, Troy Hunt, a web security consultant. Troy,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for on the show today.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Rich, thanks for having me so explain to me

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<v Speaker 5>the website.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, the name I've you've probably heard it said

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<v Speaker 1>wrong a million times?

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<v Speaker 5>Did I say it right?

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<v Speaker 1>And what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I think you did a pretty good job of it.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, it's a gaming culture reference, which is a mispronunciation

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<v Speaker 8>of owned. So if you look at your keyboard, the

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<v Speaker 8>owned the P key right next to each other, legend

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<v Speaker 8>has it someone.

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<v Speaker 5>Type poned instead of owned?

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<v Speaker 8>And then the name stuck is in You know, Hey,

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<v Speaker 8>I've just like shot you in the game, I've owned

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<v Speaker 8>you puned you.

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<v Speaker 5>So now having been honed.

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<v Speaker 8>In information security context is more around having had some

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<v Speaker 8>sort of compromise to you in your Digital Life got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, very good, Now we know. So the website, let's

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<v Speaker 1>you see if your personal information has been compromised. Explain

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the functionality of this website and what made

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<v Speaker 1>you come up with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, it's really pretty simple.

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<v Speaker 8>When there's a data breach and the data's spread out

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<v Speaker 8>there around the web to some extent or another, Have

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<v Speaker 8>I Been poned? Aggregates it and that puts the email

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<v Speaker 8>addresses in there, and then you go along and put

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<v Speaker 8>your email address in it says well, your data has

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<v Speaker 8>been in a data breach or poned as the term is,

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<v Speaker 8>in these various locations. So for example, maybe you're in

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<v Speaker 8>the drop box data breach or the LinkedIn data breach,

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<v Speaker 8>and this is one central repository that can give you

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<v Speaker 8>a pretty good overview of that.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you find the data that's in these breaches?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, look, it's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 8>Have I Been Paying started just over ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 8>and when I initially started it, I went out and

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<v Speaker 8>found the data and it was primarily the Adobe data

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<v Speaker 8>breach from twenty twenty thirteen or was twenty thirteen, which

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<v Speaker 8>made me started, and over the course of time that

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<v Speaker 8>very quickly people started to turn around and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>look there's all these other things out here, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>let us send you the data breach for the ones

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<v Speaker 8>I mentioned, Dropbox, Adobe, all these other things. As of today,

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<v Speaker 8>there's seven hundred and sixty seven data breaches in there,

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<v Speaker 8>mostly from community contributions, people popping up saying hey, this

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<v Speaker 8>data probably should be searchable and impacted parties should know

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<v Speaker 8>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of information can you search? You said, the

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<v Speaker 1>email address. So you search your email address, it shows

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<v Speaker 1>up in the breach, and then what how do you

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<v Speaker 1>use that information?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Good question.

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<v Speaker 8>So the data breach, depending on the nature of the breach,

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<v Speaker 8>there's all sorts of different information compromised.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I keep mentioning LinkedIn and Dropbox because this is the

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<v Speaker 8>names that most people will know. They had email addresses

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<v Speaker 8>and they had passwords and that was about it. Many

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<v Speaker 8>people would have heard of things like Ashley Madison back

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<v Speaker 8>in twenty fifteen, where it's like, well, now this is

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<v Speaker 8>a this is a hookup site. Imagine the sorts of

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<v Speaker 8>personal information that you leave on a hookup site. Now

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<v Speaker 8>none of that goes and they have I been paying?

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<v Speaker 8>The only thing goes in there is email addresses and

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<v Speaker 8>then it comes back and says, hey, look, you're in Dropbox,

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<v Speaker 8>so your email address and your password are at risk. You're

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<v Speaker 8>in National Madison, so your email address, your password, and

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<v Speaker 8>your data, birth and your sexuality, and you find on

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<v Speaker 8>ready all of these other things are in there as well.

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<v Speaker 8>And then you need to decide what action you have

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<v Speaker 8>to take to protect yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>What are kind of your security recommendations for the average

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<v Speaker 1>person to proactively protect their online privacy.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, the number one thing by a massive margin is

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<v Speaker 8>not reusing passwords. And the one piece of product place

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<v Speaker 8>that I have on the website is for a password manager.

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<v Speaker 8>Because the only way we can keep our passwords genuinely

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<v Speaker 8>strong and unique is we need a.

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<v Speaker 5>Tool to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>And what we're saying with many of these data breaches,

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<v Speaker 8>they begin by password reuse. So maybe it was an

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<v Speaker 8>administrator somewhere reuse the same password in one location got compromised,

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<v Speaker 8>and then that password use to access the.

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<v Speaker 5>Database on another service. For example.

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<v Speaker 8>We see many data breaches that are the result of

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<v Speaker 8>things like credential stuffing. So this is where we get

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<v Speaker 8>lots of data breaches. Email adresses and passwords leaked, packers

1:31:53.960 --> 1:31:56.400
<v Speaker 8>get them, they join more together. Sometimes there's billions of

1:31:56.400 --> 1:31:59.040
<v Speaker 8>email a dress password pairs, and then they go, let's

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<v Speaker 8>just go and try them on all the other websites,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's mass automated.

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<v Speaker 5>It's done at really really high volumes.

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<v Speaker 8>And suddenly, because you've reused your password across sites, someone's

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<v Speaker 8>now into your social media, a council or whatever else

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<v Speaker 8>it may be.

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<v Speaker 5>Where you've you've readused those credentials.

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<v Speaker 1>How often do you think someone should be checking your

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<v Speaker 1>website when they hear the headlines? I mean, recently we

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<v Speaker 1>had the AT and T breach, we had a Roku hack.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you go to the website every time you

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<v Speaker 1>hear about one of these things?

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<v Speaker 8>Look at easy answer is no, because there's a free

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<v Speaker 8>notification service. Put your email address in there and you'll

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<v Speaker 8>get an email from me if there's a new data

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<v Speaker 8>breach that impacts you. The AT and T data is

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<v Speaker 8>already in there, Roku has not turned up. It sounds

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<v Speaker 8>like Roku is actually an example of the credential stuff

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<v Speaker 8>when we just spoke about where it's not that they

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<v Speaker 8>have a vulnerability in code per se, but hey, people

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<v Speaker 8>use the same password on LinkedIn is what they do

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<v Speaker 8>in their streaming media box and you know people are

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<v Speaker 8>in there, so anyway, if that turns up, that are

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<v Speaker 8>going to have a Van Paine and people get an

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<v Speaker 8>automatic email if you leave it on the website.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the kinds of security questions you're getting and

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<v Speaker 1>what are we facing moving forward? Obviously AI is probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to play a pretty big role in security moving forward.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, probably the most prevalent issues at the moment,

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<v Speaker 8>and one of the most common questions is when we

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<v Speaker 8>get rid of passwords?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, like it is there a passwordless future?

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<v Speaker 8>And the sort of joke about it a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>because I remember so clearly ten years ago people saying,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it's the password dead yet when we're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>get rid of passwords? And that the truth is we've

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<v Speaker 8>got more now than what we ever have had. We

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<v Speaker 8>are getting very.

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<v Speaker 5>Good password alternatives.

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<v Speaker 8>People might have seen past keys reference in the past,

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<v Speaker 8>lots of services you can use past keys on. We

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<v Speaker 8>have things like second factor authentication, universal two factor keys

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<v Speaker 8>you can check in the USB drive to authenticate. So

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<v Speaker 8>we're moving in a direction where there are alternatives that

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<v Speaker 8>The challenge we have is the friction of change and

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<v Speaker 8>the one thing the poor password doesn't get enough credit.

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<v Speaker 8>One thing the password does really, really well is everybody

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<v Speaker 8>knows how to use it.

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<v Speaker 5>My little kids know how to use.

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<v Speaker 8>It, my parents know how to use Everyone knows how

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<v Speaker 8>to use a password. And we're trying to sort of

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<v Speaker 8>drag people from something that's very familiar and easy to

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<v Speaker 8>use through to something that's much more secure but requires change.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like pass keys? Do you think that the

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<v Speaker 1>average person should jump into that now or is it

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<v Speaker 1>sort of something we should weak to do.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, they're a good thing. I certainly use them in

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<v Speaker 8>multiple locations. They have upsides and downsides which then get

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<v Speaker 8>very difficult to explain to the average lay person, And

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<v Speaker 8>I think the average person is, O, hang on, isn't

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<v Speaker 8>that just another password? So yeah, it kind of is.

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<v Speaker 8>You just don't have to remember it. Your device remembers

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<v Speaker 8>it all right? Well, which device on my PC?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>It could be your people. Well, then how do I

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<v Speaker 8>sink it to my iPhone? Because I log into my

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<v Speaker 8>social media from both services. So I think the consumer

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<v Speaker 8>centric narrative around how these things work has just got

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<v Speaker 8>a bit of a way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you learned in the ten years or so

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<v Speaker 1>that you've had this website?

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<v Speaker 5>So I think this is the lesson for me that

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<v Speaker 5>data breaches are a bit of an inevitability and the

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<v Speaker 5>way the organization handles it as the defining characteristic of

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<v Speaker 5>how they'll be judged.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of those services that purport to

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<v Speaker 1>take down all of your information off the web?

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<v Speaker 5>Well intentioned? We'll start with the positive. Well intentioned.

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<v Speaker 8>So there are a lot of services out there that

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<v Speaker 8>will usually for a fee, remove your data from data aggregators.

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<v Speaker 8>So there are these things out there called data aggregators

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<v Speaker 8>where you know how you like, You go to a website,

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<v Speaker 8>you feel out of competition, and there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>down the bottom and it says I agree to the

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<v Speaker 8>terms and conditions, and I've read them, and you agree

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<v Speaker 8>to it.

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<v Speaker 5>You never read them, you agree to it.

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<v Speaker 8>Somewhere in the terms and conditions that said we may

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<v Speaker 8>use your data for a product enrichment or some rubbish

1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:45.360
<v Speaker 8>like that, where they then sell that to other people.

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<v Speaker 8>They're shady in my view, but they're legally operating. So

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<v Speaker 8>the services that are out there offering to remove your

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<v Speaker 8>data will remove it from services like that. Now, I

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<v Speaker 8>don't want to get spam and marketing material, but what's

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<v Speaker 8>much Worse than that is attacks and blackmail and extortion

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<v Speaker 8>and identity theft. And that's what happens in the much

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<v Speaker 8>shadier corner of the web, well beyond the reach of

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<v Speaker 8>these services that remove your data. So when we see

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<v Speaker 8>things like AT and C, you cannot be removed from

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<v Speaker 8>the AT and T data reach because tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 8>of people had it now because it's published on the

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<v Speaker 8>Internet and it's easily downloaded by anyone. So my concern

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<v Speaker 8>is that they're well intentioned. They do a good job

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<v Speaker 8>of taking you out of the least dangerous places, but

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<v Speaker 8>they can't take you out of the worst places.

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Hunt tell us how to access the website.

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<v Speaker 5>Have I been poned dot Com? That's like owned a

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<v Speaker 5>bit with the p all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Troy Hunt, web security consultant, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me today.

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<v Speaker 5>Appreciate it. Cheers rich the website.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, Have I been poned dot Com? Pwned? I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put a link to it on my website.

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<v Speaker 5>Rich on Tech dot TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to you, Rich on Tech. This song

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<v Speaker 1>goes out to Kim on the rich On Tech radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good we played it twice. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on tech rich on tech dot tv is the

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<v Speaker 1>website for the show. Trying to get through a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of items of note here before we get to the

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<v Speaker 1>feedback segment, so I might go a little fast, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything's linked up on the website. Rich on tech dot

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<v Speaker 1>tv hit the light bulb for the show notes Rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>R one. This is a AI device. It's got a touchscreen,

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<v Speaker 1>a scrolling wheel, a push to talk button, and the

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<v Speaker 1>review units went out this week, so a couple people

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<v Speaker 1>you actually had to buy one of these to get one.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not get one. I feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these AI products are very early stage and I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't see the point compared to having your smartphone.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll change my mind when a good one comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>but this one is two hundred dollars. Early reviews say

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<v Speaker 1>it is sort of unfinit limited buggy at launch, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is an interesting gadget for AI tech enthusiasts and

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<v Speaker 1>early adopters to experiment with. But it's not a smartphone

1:38:10.680 --> 1:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>replacement just yet. You could do things like ask it

1:38:13.080 --> 1:38:18.760
<v Speaker 1>questions using AI, can take pictures of things and identify it.

1:38:18.760 --> 1:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>It's got integration with like Uber, door, Dash and Spotify.

1:38:21.600 --> 1:38:23.439
<v Speaker 1>But again, all these things are much easier just to

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<v Speaker 1>do on your phone, So keep an eye out for

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<v Speaker 1>the rabbit are one and other AI devices. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>there just yet. Better Business Bureau warning about a new

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<v Speaker 1>scam text messaging scam where they send you a text

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<v Speaker 1>that says you got to pay your toll for some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of road that you went on, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>not legitimate. I could see why they try this one

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<v Speaker 1>because I've been on those toll roads where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, you go on these roads and ride

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<v Speaker 1>now pay later. You get a bill in the mail

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<v Speaker 1>for like three hundred dollars, You're like what, So be

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<v Speaker 1>careful if you get a text that says you have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay a toll, be very very critical of that text.

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<v Speaker 1>Ring is going to refund customers or sorry, the FTC

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<v Speaker 1>is sending five point six million dollars in refunds to

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<v Speaker 1>Ring customers as part of a settlement addressing privacy violations

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<v Speaker 1>and security failures. I don't know if you remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a long time ago, but Ring had like

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<v Speaker 1>employees that could see private videos without consent, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they paid a fine to the FTC. Now the FTC

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<v Speaker 1>is sending one hundred and seventeen forty four PayPal payments

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<v Speaker 1>to eligible Ring customers who had certain devices during the

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<v Speaker 1>timeframes when unauthorized access occurred. Now here's my concern here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get this, You're going to see scam

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<v Speaker 1>artists trying to parlay this into a scam. So I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, hey, we're the ftc We've got your Ring money.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, fill out this information or log in

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<v Speaker 1>with your PayPal, So be very critical of that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though this is legitimate, anything that's legitimate, the scam

1:39:54.120 --> 1:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>artists find a way to trick you. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was pretty cool. This was in the Window

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<v Speaker 1>Intelligence newsletter this week. An easy way to share files

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<v Speaker 1>between any devices on your network. So you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got quick Share, we've got nearby sharing, we've got air drop.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a free open source tool, so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>always sharing files between your devices and you want something

1:40:17.479 --> 1:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that's quick and easy, it is called local send. The

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<v Speaker 1>website is let me see local send dot org. There

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<v Speaker 1>are apps for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, and iOS. So

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<v Speaker 1>you install this program and setup takes about fifteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Install the app, open it on your other device. Anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's on the same network. You'll it'll show up on

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<v Speaker 1>your phone or your you know, whatever the device is.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll say, do you want to send this to this device? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see now. Keep in mind, the cool thing about

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<v Speaker 1>airdrop and quick share is that they are ad hoc,

1:40:53.360 --> 1:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>which means you don't need an Internet connection or a

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<v Speaker 1>network for them to work. So this one, you will

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<v Speaker 1>need to be on the same network for these things

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<v Speaker 1>to work. I think that's the big difference. I've not

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<v Speaker 1>tried this, but I love the sound of it. The

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<v Speaker 1>other one is a web based alternative. It's called snap

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<v Speaker 1>drop and snap drop I've used before. It works pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>It is snap drop dot net. So again, all these

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like services for sending files between devices. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>this will all be a lot simpler when Apple allows

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<v Speaker 1>the rcs on their iPhone, you'll be able to send

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<v Speaker 1>big files like a big video file or a big

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<v Speaker 1>file or a big picture between iPhone and Android. That'll

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<v Speaker 1>be happening later this year. That'll be a huge win

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<v Speaker 1>for consumers. All right. Now, time for the feedbag segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Feedback plus the mail bag equals feedbag. These are the emails,

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<v Speaker 1>the comments, and the questions I've gotten from you. If

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to submit yours, go to Rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot TV hit contact. Jim in Portland says, hey, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really thinking a lot about what you said

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<v Speaker 1>regarding how we're automating so many jobs, and on one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's cool. On the other, it's not inclusive

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<v Speaker 1>and may not be welcome. I'll tell you why I'm blind.

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<v Speaker 1>I've found that many restaurants now have touch screens when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to ordering food. Of course, they're not accessible,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are few and far between. If I

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<v Speaker 1>go with someone, I can have them help me use

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<v Speaker 1>the tablet, But most of the time I'm by myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of these inaccessible tablets, I'm no longer independent.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I ask an employee for help, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between that and just ordering from a human. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a McDonald's I went to that didn't have anyone

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<v Speaker 1>working there except for the people making food. That was

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<v Speaker 1>not cool. What about the folks like me who like

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<v Speaker 1>ordering things a certain way. I know that certain tablets

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<v Speaker 1>generally have things already on the menu. I wouldn't settle

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<v Speaker 1>for that where a human can write down my order

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully get it right. I do agree you do

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you about things like taxis and ubers. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit leery about leaving everything to automation because

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<v Speaker 1>I like to ask questions and I want to know information.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the world is going to all this cool technology,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love toys as much as the next tech nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>But people really don't think about including people who can't

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<v Speaker 1>always access it. Excellent point, Jim, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>accessibility part of the equation is a huge one. I

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<v Speaker 1>think in many ways it adds to the accessibility and

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways it does take away. Laurel also commented

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<v Speaker 1>on the automated cars. Don't like them. Among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>they have blocked emergency vehicles going to calls and also

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<v Speaker 1>crashed into emergency vehicles going to calls. Fire departments and

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<v Speaker 1>police and ambulance companies want to get rid of self

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<v Speaker 1>driving vehicles. Laurel Nol in scndido says, Hey, Rich love

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Listen to one last week where you had

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<v Speaker 1>the guy talking about radar apps you can use to

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<v Speaker 1>track flights. You mentioned flight Radar twenty four. A cool

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<v Speaker 1>feature is the ar feature in the corner you point

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<v Speaker 1>it at an aircraft in flight overhead and it will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you details on that airport, on that airline destination.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool. I also use radar box, flight Aware and

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<v Speaker 1>globe Dot a DSB exchange dot. That's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the app you mentioned Flighty and I

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<v Speaker 1>looked up this ADBs exchange. It is so cool. It

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<v Speaker 1>shows you an image of every plane in the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>It is really cool. And he continues now on AI

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<v Speaker 1>taking over jobs. I would rather eliminate the pilot who

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<v Speaker 1>blabs on while we're trying to watch TV. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know where we're flying over. That's

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<v Speaker 1>so nineteen seventies. The pilot who keeps his interruptions to

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<v Speaker 1>a minimum. They are safe in my book. And yes

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<v Speaker 1>I am a pilot. All my best. Keep up the

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<v Speaker 1>good work. Let's see San Gabriel Don says, hey, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you covered the what three words app.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted you to know that the app is much

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<v Speaker 1>more than handy. I just retired from a forty year

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<v Speaker 1>career at the LAFD. The app has literally been a

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<v Speaker 1>life saving piece of technology. I love all that you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted you to know how important this technology

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<v Speaker 1>has become thank you, and Don says, I've listened to

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<v Speaker 1>talk radio since I was young falling asleep. That has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten too repetitive, so I turned to a few podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yours is number one on my list. Glad I help

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<v Speaker 1>you fall asleep. It might be to take me a

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<v Speaker 1>week to go through the entire show, but everything you

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<v Speaker 1>discuss is interesting to this retired guy who likes to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate how things work. Don. Thank you, Don Rich. I

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<v Speaker 1>love your Saturday show and your KTLA segments. I also

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<v Speaker 1>applaud your patience with callers. Peter, Thank you Peter. And finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob and Sharon says, thank you Rich. We love your

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<v Speaker 1>show both on TV and radio. Wow. I couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>said it better myself. Thank you for the feedback. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to submit, go to Rich on tech dot TV. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can believe it, that's going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode of the show. You can find everything

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned on my website. Just go to Rich on

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<v Speaker 1>tech dot TV. You can find me on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I am at rich on tech next week. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>see what I got coming up next week. Oh, Airbnb's

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<v Speaker 1>having a big event. We'll talk about that. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more about dumb phones, you know, the smartphones,

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of those. Thanks so much for listening. There

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<v Speaker 1>are so many ways you can spend your time. I

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<v Speaker 1>really do appreciate you spending it right here with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to everyone who makes this show possible. Bobo on

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<v Speaker 1>the board, thank yourself. Thanks Bobo, there you go, Kim

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<v Speaker 1>on the phones. We've got Bill, We've got Julie. Who

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<v Speaker 1>else makes this show possible? So I don't know. My wife,

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<v Speaker 1>she lets me come here and do it, so I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's probably pretty important. And my kids who give

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<v Speaker 1>me great ideas, and you, of course, thanks to you.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Richdmiro. I will talk to you real soon.