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Speaker 1: But right now Draymond Tripp and it's another it's another

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Speaker 1: he's smart because you know who. Welcome, Welcome people to

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Speaker 1: the O G Podcast, the first episode, first one, first one,

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Speaker 1: of course, the O G. But this my so we

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Speaker 1: just O G number one. But welcome, welcome six. Man

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Speaker 1: of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Sniper Gated Lesid Lezig,

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Speaker 1: South Dakota's Great Mike Miller in the mother House.

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Speaker 2: Right back at him to og Man. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: done it all, done everything. He's mister Miami, mister three

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Speaker 2: h five, obviously, three time NBA champion. He already wrapping

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Speaker 2: to Miami in the first episode. It's gonna be coming

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Speaker 2: all the time. Obviously, super excited to be doing this. Man,

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Speaker 2: it's been twenty five years of a lot of stories,

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Speaker 2: a lot of dope teammates, twenty five of them, coaching

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Speaker 2: college all the way through. Obviously, we have so many

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be hot. Topics dope, dope guests talking yes,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna keep it real. Speaking of hot topics,

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Speaker 2: U d there's one out there right now that's been

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Speaker 1: Get me with it.

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Speaker 2: Hit me with it, as being talked about. Hit me

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Speaker 2: me with it. It's the Draymond Green scenario, and this

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green with my camera. Your camera's right there. But

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Speaker 1: And you know it. I got, I got with Draymond Man.

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Speaker 1: It's it's only so many warriors in this league, guys that,

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Speaker 1: We don't start that. We don't started. We we ain't bullies.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We never looking for we

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, the humbug, I see that.

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Speaker 1: I seen that same move on Kong Fu Theater last Sunday,

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Speaker 1: So we ain't doing that. So but I got a

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He knows he choked that gobet,

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Speaker 1: In reverse, he actually got so smart crazy. He's smart crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan Poole, come on, man, young fella. At

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Speaker 1: These young fellas in the right direction. You know what

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Speaker 2: That man has just been an absolu monster. Man. I

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Speaker 1: If you can infuse your personality and and your grit

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Speaker 2: but it's turning into team success and that's what's cool

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Speaker 2: It's kind of it's kind of interesting to keep track

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing like for it is it's

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Speaker 2: Like that's the thought that I think that I thought

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, thelass course. But what I will

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Speaker 1: I'm all for paper getting their money that five hundred,

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Speaker 1: ain't propping Champagne. Brought you my dog. I'll let you

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Speaker 1: come on, king, Come okay, you know what it is.

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Speaker 1: You know what you play for, you know what you

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Speaker 1: God damn, the rich get richer. A don't need that.

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Speaker 1: But what I will say is the competitive nature of it.

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Speaker 2: this like he can go out and get thirty five Yes,

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Speaker 1: I watched his game from when he was with Chicago

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Speaker 2: You know, this summer them summers go. It's like that

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Speaker 1: Maker, I'm telling you they're good. This league is about matchups.

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Speaker 2: We can get out of our hot topics category this

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Speaker 1: You have to touch on first. I'm a big I'm

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Speaker 2: same time of the years. We knew what time it was,

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00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 2: and we knew what they were doing. They knew what

431
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,200
Speaker 2: we were doing. It wasn't no secrets to it. It's

432
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,919
Speaker 2: are you gonna do what you're doing better than what

433
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 2: we do? What we do? And you're not.

434
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,879
Speaker 1: Supposed to like someone and and but you're not.

435
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,639
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. You can respect them whatever,

436
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,719
Speaker 2: But they don't like us. It's like we don't like them,

437
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

438
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 1: And and the thing about it is that the competitive

439
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 1: part about it is you're looking for that edge. You're

440
00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 1: looking for that edge because there there's there's by the

441
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 1: time you get to the Eastern Conference finals, there's parody.

442
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 1: You ain't finna blow these motherfuckers.

443
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,160
Speaker 2: At the crib. It's gonna be a dog fight.

444
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 1: You're looking for that fucking edge. Whatever you can create

445
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 1: in your mind, whatever scenario you can create, however you

446
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 1: want to feel about these motherfuckers, whatever can give you

447
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 1: that competitive edge to keep you from being soft in

448
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: the mind, or whatever it is to push you over

449
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 1: the edge. You're looking for that. So for me, I

450
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 1: chose not to fuck with motherfuckers. I can't do both.

451
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 1: I can't shake your hand and wish you good luck

452
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 1: and then try to go at you and rip your

453
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 1: motherfucker head off in these in these tournament, in these games.

454
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: So I chose not to shake them other hand, and

455
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: I chose not to speak to a motherfucker.

456
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't personal. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not

457
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 2: a personal attack. It's just to me. And it only

458
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 2: takes one dude to get the DIAMONDO was going, Yeah,

459
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,479
Speaker 2: it takes one. And obviously in our series Tyler Hansbell

460
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,119
Speaker 2: got a dominal go. But it only takes one. But

461
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 2: what I'm saying those you don't like people as as

462
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: as people at home and players that go through it right,

463
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 2: understand the mental drain and the physical drain that a

464
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 2: season in the mostly the playoffs, because when you play

465
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: a playoff game against Indiana, it doesn't matter who it is,

466
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 2: and you lose it. For the next two days, you're

467
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: hearing the ship yes, yes, and the one person that's

468
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 2: not playing greater taking all takes is one thing to

469
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 2: set the whole ship off, and once it goes that,

470
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 2: it just changes, it changes the game. And by game three, man,

471
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: it's you know how it is. By game three, it

472
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:44,719
Speaker 2: is what it is.

473
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 1: You ain't running nothing new. I'm not running nothing new

474
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: in and written or will Who's gonna break?

475
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: Who's gonna break? They had us almost broken, remember in Indiana.

476
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: Almost ain't good enough?

477
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 2: No, it almost ain't good enough. Remember that we had

478
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 2: the players only meeting. Yeah, it was a real it

479
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 2: was a real soul check, man.

480
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean they came and they got one in Miami,

481
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: and then we had to get back to Indiana, and

482
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: d Wade was having a tough series and everyone else

483
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: he was.

484
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: He wasn't just put that cape on though.

485
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what, well you I think, if

486
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, they thought that I was gonna be

487
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: the guy that was gonna miss shot crazy than the

488
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: mother miss And the crazy thing is they try the

489
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: same ship again next year, coach and missus. Shock, come,

490
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: she got the range. Don't you see we got the rain?

491
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: Don't you You will never pick me to let my

492
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 1: guys down. Fust of all, motherfucker. I wake up in

493
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: the morning, motherfucker looking for a reason to be that guy.

494
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: For my guy. I want you motherfuckers to be there.

495
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 1: I want to be the motherfucker. Y'all call that three.

496
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: And when she ain't going right and you need somebody,

497
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: I want to be that motherfucker. You picked the right

498
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: motherfucker to stand up and to pay for the team.

499
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: You picked the right motherfucker.

500
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 2: Since I got you gassed up on the old ship.

501
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: Because now you got your juices going, give me your

502
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: welcome to the NBA moment? Man, What what you got going?

503
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: When you were like, oh ship, Okay, what was that? O?

504
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: G Detroit legend? You know what I'm saying. If anybody

505
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: know anything about Detroit, boy, they don't play the radio

506
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 1: out there. Shout out to my dog Reds. When I'm

507
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: in the d my dog hold me down. We slide,

508
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: we move around. See de tray ain't no place you

509
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: could just be going by yourself. You don't just get

510
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: in them up car and go to the store in Detroit.

511
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: What you do look local CVS.

512
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So shout out to my dog REGs that hold

513
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: me down out Dan Detroit boy. You know how we

514
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: get down. We out there. We're gonna keep it going.

515
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: But you know, Dereck Coleman, So we were playing against Philadelphia,

516
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: and uh, Dereck Coleman filed me pretty hard fire, pretty

517
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: tough file. And I looked at him. I said, damn DC,

518
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: you try to fire me. Y'all say, damn DC, you

519
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: try to fuck me up?

520
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: Huh.

521
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: He looked at me, say, young fella, if I wanted

522
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: to hurt you, you wouldn't have got up. And I looked

523
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: back at him, and I thought about it. I said, respect, Yeah,

524
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: that's a little shit, you know what. And I still

525
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: use that to this day when I fouled somebody. Damn

526
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: O listen, young fellof, I want to hurt you, to

527
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: be hurt, just know that I don't. I wouldn't have

528
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: fucked that up. If I want to hurt you, I

529
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: would have hurt you. So that was I think that

530
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: was my introduction to this league because at that time,

531
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: nobody never told me no ship like that. You know

532
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, nobody.

533
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: Hey, that league was, That league was old, it was,

534
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: it was a veteran league. Man like that's you know again,

535
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: we don't want to sit up here as og because

536
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 2: our whole thing when we started this podcast was to

537
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: help these to just you know, spit knowledge and give

538
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: our stories. It's not we walked a school uphill both ways,

539
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: you know. I mean it's not that. But like when

540
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: I got in the league, my team, I was the

541
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: only rookie, you know what I mean. Now you get

542
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: teams where it's like yo, Like.

543
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: I felt like when you got in the league. I

544
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: got in the league too. Come down to your house.

545
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: He was only about an hour from games, man, motherfucker,

546
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: I was gone. We got a day off. I felt

547
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: like we made it.

548
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: We made it, made it. No, But that's it's it's crazy,

549
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: like you see the game change, man. But it's it's

550
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: like these young these young dudes are so freaking talented,

551
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: man now, and they're getting so good. It's gonna be

552
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: interesting to see to make sure they keep these ogs

553
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: in the locker room though, because I'm telling you, man, like,

554
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: for these talented dudes, the only thing they can get

555
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: get in their way is themselves. And it takes dudes

556
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: that lived experience. Like there's there's no better thing than experience. Man,

557
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. And that's that to

558
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 2: me is making sure they do that. So as long

559
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 2: as they do that, these young dudes are.

560
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: Gonna have another another introduction to the lead for me.

561
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: Get into Chicago and hearing that motherfucking music. That ship boy,

562
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: that she still give you chills. From North against Mike

563
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: from North Carolina. You hear that goddamn song. We don't

564
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: care what team you play for. If you grew up

565
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: in that era, if you if MJ is your goat,

566
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: which he's my goat, no disrespect Lebroun and all those guys,

567
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: Love those guys, but is my goat If you grew

568
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: up in that era, that fucking when you hear that

569
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: for the first time in person, that ship give you chills.

570
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: And there's no disrespect to Bron when you say it's

571
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: your goat, because when you explain that thing to me

572
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: the other day about why he's your goat, it makes

573
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: sense though.

574
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Broun, I'm older than Bron. That's I

575
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance to watch him bruing it. You

576
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, MJ growing up so you MJ

577
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: knows that's my goal. Chicago motherfuckers broke out of twenty

578
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: seven game winning streak. You remember that dogs every time

579
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: so happy that ship was over. There was stressful, was stressful.

580
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: It became about the streak. It was not It was

581
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: not about our opponent.

582
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: It was.

583
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: It was not about that night. Everything was about that

584
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: fucking streak.

585
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: I will say that. I will say this though, The

586
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: one thing I tell people all the time was such

587
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: a change in your life. When you're in October and

588
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: you're lacing your shoes up for training camp and you

589
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: think you're gonna win every game, that's a that's an

590
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: unbelievable feeling. Bro. Yeah, there's nothing more to flating though,

591
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: because I've been on teams, and I've been on the

592
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: teams where you're in October and you're the flat You're like, dog,

593
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: I'm playing for a play, a paycheck because I'm not

594
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: playing for the end.

595
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: People at home, October is the beginning of the season.

596
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: You know you ain't gonna wear a ship at the

597
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: begin you know you're.

598
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: You're lacing up, you know you obviously you're gassed up.

599
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: You're excited because it's like I'm back hooping again. But like,

600
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: that's why I that's why I made my made the

601
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: decision come to Miami, like I was done lacing up,

602
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: Like dog, I know I'm not playing in June. That's depressing, bro.

603
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: So like, so I understand your thinking about the winning streak,

604
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: but gods damn, that ship was fun. When you think

605
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna win every game, bro, that was fun.

606
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: But goddamn killing the motherfucker stressed us out percent. God damn.

607
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean everywhere we turned the winning streak the game,

608
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: that's how far can you go? How many are you

609
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: gonna win?

610
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: Man?

611
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: Listen here, man, we wanted the championship.

612
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: How many was it? Though?

613
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: We won twenty seven I think, and then we lost

614
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: one or two and then we went on like another

615
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: twelve game Winter streak and something crazy like that. So

616
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it was fun, but

617
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: the ship became more about the Winter streak. And at

618
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: the end of the day, motherfucker, we wanted to get championship.

619
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: When you get rings, that's what we're doing this ship for.

620
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: Hey man, there's no way we're getting through our first

621
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: podcast o G podcast without getting in the grab bag

622
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: and get some people on on social media ask.

623
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: You questions, asking that's no dumb ship.

624
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: We ain't going. I mean, they're gonna you know, there's

625
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: gonna be a dumb ass, no dumb ship. We're gonna

626
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: try to sc with that big dog. The first one

627
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: it says you Donna's has them. By the way, I

628
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: love what they're calling you. D. People call me my

629
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: whole names d Man.

630
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't respond to that.

631
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Were there temptations to play for another team? I know

632
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: you're mister three h five. That's actually a really good

633
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: question because you're from here. You got to play your

634
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: whole career here, twenty seasons here. But it's still a business.

635
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: At what point were you ever? Was there ever a

636
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: point where you're like, dog, I'm out of here. Hell yeah, okay,

637
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: talk to him, Hell yeah, all right, be really yeah.

638
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean when the Big Three came, you know, you

639
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: took some of my money, motherfucker. You gave him my money.

640
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: You took some of my money. They ain't had no

641
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: money for me, so they paid your ass. That's what

642
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: the fuck happened. I was about to get the fuck

643
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: up out of here. Everybody know that I was when

644
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: the Big Three tell the story.

645
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: You know what my call was, what I ain't coming.

646
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: If it's gonna take you D out of here, I

647
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: ain't coming.

648
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: We're good.

649
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: Oh, we can have a great story this.

650
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: We'll do this good because it's actually a really good story. Listen,

651
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something everybody has a role. Everybody

652
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: has a role. I think obviously we had the Big

653
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: Three and they were great at what they did, but

654
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: if not for the Little twelve, if we don't have

655
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: the Little twelve, we don't win those rings. You had

656
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: your moments, Shane had his moments, I had my moments,

657
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: everybody had, Ray had is everybody had a fucking moment,

658
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, obviously we

659
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: had the Big three, but without the Little twelve, we

660
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: don't win that. So for me, obviously they didn't have

661
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: no fucking money, you know what I'm saying. That offered

662
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: me the minimum, which at what I was twenty eight,

663
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: twenty nine, that's blasphemy. Blast for me, motherfucker time, blast

664
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: for me. What the fuck are we talking about? Like

665
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: this is it the prime? While we're hitting double doubles

666
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: and shit, I think as the NBA player, they say

667
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: you peak and you reach your prime round twenty eight.

668
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: So this is when I'm averaging double doubles. So actually,

669
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: when I told me they didn't have no money, I'm

670
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: on my way down to the arena to look rouse

671
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: in his eye and say thank you, because at the

672
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: end of the day, when people didn't give me an opportunity,

673
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: you believe. So it was gonna be a quick conversation.

674
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, coach. I appreciate it. But it's nowhere fucking

675
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: way I can take a minimum right now. By the

676
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: time my money, by the time, who took you, motherfucker?

677
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: You know who took it? That's what everybody. Listen, that's

678
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: the blood. Listen, everybody. Once again, I was around the

679
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: time where basketball was becoming positionless, you know what I'm saying,

680
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: And everything became about pacing space, and nobody wanted to

681
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: mad a range jump shoot anymore until the Eastern Conference finals.

682
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: There you need it. You want to win, and put

683
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: you in. That's what you do, Jack. You want to

684
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: win and put you did. That's what you do, Jack.

685
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: But I was on my way down there, and then

686
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: when I got to the when I put up to

687
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: the ren of my my agent, my late great Henry Thomas,

688
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: called me and he said, you know, before you go

689
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: in there, just just wait a second. I'm on the

690
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: phone with Roles. I think we might get something worked out.

691
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: So obviously it started off with d Wade. You know,

692
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: he made a phone called a Broun and he made

693
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: a phone call to Chris Bosh and he said, Man,

694
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: if we're gonna win a championship, I think this is

695
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna be, you know, important to us,

696
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: and we're gonna need this guy. Shout out Broun, Shout

697
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: out c B. They hesitate, you know what I'm saying.

698
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: So for me, they didn't know me. I guess just

699
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: reputation alone was based off the decision that they made.

700
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: But you know, you know how I am Lloyd to

701
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: the Sawyer. I had to make sure I get them

702
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: boys their money worth. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

703
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: That was an unbelievable locker room we had there, man,

704
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: great locker room. I'm glad he did it. Obviously it

705
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: worked out great.

706
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: How you got your ass down here? Mike? Let me

707
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: ask you hot topic. How you get to miam to

708
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: kill it? I think I touched on a little bit

709
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: of in heret's taking my money to come down. I'm

710
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: actually an touch on that too. I actually told I committed,

711
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: did you PJ down here on my money? Down? When

712
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: when they told me they didn't have no money and

713
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: they paid you? How you got your ass down here?

714
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: What you flew in? I actually I get the PJ,

715
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: the U D forty PJ sponsored by U D.

716
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah sponsor. No.

717
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: I mean when I when I chose to come here,

718
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: it was like it was that point where I was

719
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: offered more money to other places because I took less

720
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: to it when we went through. We talked about this

721
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: all the time. You know, I actually committed here and

722
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: I called my agent after I found out you you

723
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: didn't have your money, and I said, and I said,

724
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm not coming unless you gets in here. So that's

725
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: how I mean. Obviously, I you know, it all worked

726
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: out great, and U D and and C B and

727
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: and Lebron take less money, which was I.

728
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: Was more excited to play with you again than I

729
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: was with them. No disrespect of those guys, but I

730
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: was more excited to have my dog back.

731
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: But I told I told my pops. Man, I was like,

732
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: I was going through it and teams were offered me

733
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: like good, like really really good money, way more than

734
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: I was getting here. But it goes back to what

735
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: I said earlier, like I wanted to get in a

736
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: situation where I laced it up in October, like yo,

737
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: do I have it? Man? You know what I mean?

738
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: Like when I get on a stage, Am I gonna

739
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: be that dude on that stage or I'm gonna ship myself.

740
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: You gotta find out, and the only way you find

741
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: out is get out there. Like you can talk about

742
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: all we all sell oh man man, pressure don't mean

743
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: shit to me and tell you out there right. And

744
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to get that because at the end of

745
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: the day, that's all you played.

746
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: For pressures, pipes, catalyst. Were you stood up in the

747
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: pank killer the one motherfucker shoot it was you stood

748
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: up at it by the fucking pack. Yes, you do

749
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: got it? You do not ship yourself.

750
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to find out though, that's to me.

751
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: To me, that was that was the biggest thing for me,

752
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Like I you know we did at that point, you'd

753
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: have you obviously a championship. I hadn't seen the championship.

754
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: I had some individual success, but I've never even been

755
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: relevant in the playoffs, like not even get out of the

756
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: first round. It's like like dog, like, I can't I

757
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: can't tell stories and and and parent my kids even

758
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: without even finding out what myself made up and so

759
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, the money thing. It was tough though, because

760
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: listen at the end of the day, you do what

761
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: we talk about. It's still a business, brother, because.

762
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: When you were and it's hard to make up meal.

763
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: You ain't making up make up meal' is that out here? No, yeah,

764
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: you ain't making up millions.

765
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: The only way you might do that is by betting.

766
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: We got to do that.

767
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: It's a different day now. It's hard to get used to,

768
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: right to make up your on my pics. Man, in

769
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: my day, all we doing shoot little dice. Now these

770
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: fucks get out here and just put it on the

771
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: platform right in front of your face, on the platter,

772
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: like I'll get This is taking a little bit get

773
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: used to.

774
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: We got we got the college football playoffs coming up.

775
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: You got the Alabama Crimson Tide taking on the old Michigan.

776
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: We see what you're doing, Wolverines. Who you got? And

777
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: so I think Michigan's favorite about one and a half

778
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: to see.

779
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: My thing is and and and this is personal. This

780
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: is personal. What the coach name is from Alabama?

781
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: Again, what you might know him, what people down south

782
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: know him?

783
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: A little bit?

784
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Nick act like you don't know who?

785
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this personal?

786
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it should be.

787
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Take my mother fucking glass okay, right there, Nick, you

788
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: told us she wasn't leaving.

789
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: Oh he did do that to you.

790
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: You told us she wasn't leaving. And I picked up

791
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: the paper.

792
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: You packed your ship, Coach, Saving's cook it ugly, Coach.

793
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: I picked up the Nobody picks up the paper anymore.

794
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I went online. You packed your ship and you went

795
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: back to Tuscaloosa. Somewhere Tuscaloosa. You take your asspact down

796
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: over Miami. How dare you so? I'm not fucking with

797
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: him yet?

798
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: You're still picking Alabama?

799
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: Not no more.

800
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: I changed changed.

801
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: I changed my mind. I changed my mind. I can't

802
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: do it. I can't do it. I chose my fucking side.

803
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: That's why what is Jersey today? I chose my fucking out.

804
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: I can't even tiptoe around that ship. I ain't fucking

805
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: with you, Saving. I'm going with Michigan. Now road whatnot?

806
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: Road time?

807
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Uh? Michigan versus everybody? Give me my motherfucking T shirt.

808
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: Shout out Juwan Howard. That's right, shout out Michigan versus

809
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: motherfucking everybody. So I changed my mind. Michigan, were both

810
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: going to Michigan. We will got Michigan. I got up

811
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: for a little bit different reasons, but I respect the

812
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: pride of the old. I just think Michigan's I think

813
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Michigan is really good this year. I think they're good,

814
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: but they're good. I think they're good football. I think

815
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: anybody good if you can steal signs.

816
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: Here we go stealing signs. So do you want me

817
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: to say I'm saying we have we have a band scout.

818
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: That means if you with your pants down, that means

819
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: you probably get it.

820
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little different, but anyways, we're here. Let's go

821
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: to the next game before gus on it. Texas, Washington, Washington.

822
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm going with Washington.

823
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Man.

824
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: Where from Florida?

825
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Boy? Where we're going with peenies.

826
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you. This is gonna be there.

827
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: Canna be a lot of episodes and you screaming Florida A.

828
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: Damn right, I'm with you though, damn right, everybody from Florida.

829
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: I'm so yeah.

830
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: A lot of episodes. When you screened South Dakota.

831
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: As the stand up yeah track, I'm gonna take I'm

832
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: gonna take Texas because the quarterback there is from South Dakota.

833
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: Really Nope, but.

834
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: That one you got out of here soon.

835
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you I'm taking Texas. I think they're

836
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: really good. Obviously they got speed everywhere. Defense is good.

837
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: My boy, a Polo is gonna hate me because he's

838
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: from his family went to Washington. Mom and dad went

839
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: to Washington. I hate doing it to y'all, but Texas

840
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: gonna win that game and you ain't.

841
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: So you ain't run with Poenies and the boys.

842
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think they're good. I just think Texas.

843
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, I'm giving

844
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: people advice where I put my money and if I'm

845
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: investing my money on this right now, I'm taking Texas

846
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: minus four now with me, though I probably fade me.

847
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 2: I probably faded me. You want to win the money.

848
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: But that's where we're at.

849
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: That's where we're at.

850
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: Anything else we gonna see. Oh yeah.

851
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: About the two things for show? The game gott to

852
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: be played in between the lines?

853
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: Two things for what?

854
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: One thing about the two things for show? The game

855
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: gott to be played in between the motherfucking lives. You

856
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: cannot run it, you can't hide, you can run it hide, yes, sir,

857
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: All right, guys, I appreciate y'all tuning in like subscribe,

858
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: follow us, do not d m us because we ain't

859
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: fucking with that.

860
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: Firstday, first episode, bro, first, this ship gonna be real.

861
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 2: I was tune in Tuesday. It's only gonna get like subscribe,

862
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: check us out.

863
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: We ain't even till half the ship.

864
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 2: No, hey, listen, tip of the iceberg. What they say,

865
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: short pier long walk, short peer long walk. Let's go.

866
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: Thank y'all, man appreciate the O g's out, Sir

867
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: H