1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: It's so live on a first Friday edition of Cleveland 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. That's a great z. 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: You and I were at the combine and we were 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: discussing that ideally the timing of the combine should be 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: a little bit later. It should be after free agency. 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: It should be after all of the things that happened 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: leading up to the new league year, which is today, 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: that the combine should be after, because then teams love 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: a better idea of what they need in the draft 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: and what they don't need in the draft. Yep. And 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: one of the other things that we discussed was this 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: notion of legal tampering, and the reality is that when 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: you get to the combine, that is where these conversations start. 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Of course, they start there and then they're consummated over 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, and then they start to 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: get released throughout the weekend and then Monday was absolutely bonkers. 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: So all of this stuff happens, but at all you 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: light the fuse at the combine, so that's where all 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: of these things start. I don't know, my friend, how 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: the NFL can allow what happened yesterday, what Baltimore pulled. 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how they can allow it. I know 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: they will because I don't think you can do anything 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: after the fact. You can only fix it so it 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: doesn't happen again. Because that can just lean on the 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: they can lean on the medical and I'm with you, 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: trust me, I'm with you one hundred percent on this. 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: I just don't see any scenario where they can do 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: anything about this now. I think that they're going to 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: have to do something so it doesn't happen again, and 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: I think there's a bunch of things you can do 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: to that. But this was an incredible, incredible thing that 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: Baltimore did. It was It is one of these things 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: that will set back the Raiders absolutely. Yep, it cost 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: the Raiders. We'll never know exactly what it cost him, 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: but their whole plan would have been different. In free agency. 41 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: They certainly if this was going to happen, they could 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: have dealt him somewhere else. His market is now going 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: to be in half at least. Yep. This you can't 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: have this in the league, buddy, you can't. No, something 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 2: has to change. 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: So, as I've said many times in the mornings, I 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: watched Good Morning Football, yeah with Master Luca, and I 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: actually tweeted out today I thought Kyle Brandt was so. 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: Good. 50 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: Okay today, Kyle Brant right now he is. The Operation's 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: a franchise. 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: It's amazing, by the way, though, that that operation can't 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: post his take he posted it, actually didn't post at all? 54 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: He he did, did he not? We have not been 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: able to find it. 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: No, he posted it on his on his feed. Unless 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: it's been taken down. 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: I'll find I'll go back and look. But as of 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: two hours ago, it was not on there on his feed. 60 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: He posted it. 61 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: Electric moment on Live TV with rap She and Tom 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: peliseras a Trey Henrison three hours ago. 63 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that wasn't that's not him going off. That's 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: just a clip of him. So Kyle Brandt, this had 65 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: to be part of it though, because I see him. 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: He quot tweeted me. 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: So I said five hours ago, I said, huge props 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: of Kyle brand a Good Morning Football for bringing the fire, 69 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: not mincing words about the situation. Great TV, he wrote back, 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: fiery con both Ian and Tom then fright before that, 71 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: sec fact is all lies and evil deeds. All they stink. 72 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: You can cover them up for a while, but they 73 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: don't go away. Kyle Brandt was pissed, Yeah, and I 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: was pissed as well watching it, because what it feels like. 75 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: What it feels like is that the Ravens got this 76 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: done with Crosby. They didn't think that Trey Hendrickson was 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: going to be in their price range. 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: YEP. 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: As things went on and progressed, it turned out actually 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson was going to be right around the same 81 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: cost as Crosby, And so if they could get out 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: of this deal, they could just get Trey Hendrickson and 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: keep their two ones after they had been pillaged in 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: free agency. Now, this is somebody who would never do 85 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: anything of that sort of ill repute. 86 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: Now, because looking I'm looking at paint it on. Look 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: at that, geez Luise, it's Kyle Brantwood did not mince words, 88 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: and he's on an NFL show. 89 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: Now it's an ESPN show. I guess depending on how 90 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 3: you look at it with what's going on there. But 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: he said, tell me this, when some other team, either 92 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: Max Crosby goes and plays great for the Raiders this year, 93 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: or gets trade to some other team who signs off 94 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: on his physical and he goes and plays great for them, 95 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: how do we how do we let them get away 96 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: with this? Because what it feels like is an organization 97 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: that had never traded a first round pick in thirty 98 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: one years. 99 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 2: Got cold feet. 100 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: They realized there was maybe a solution after they had 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: been pillaged and plundered in free agency, a solution that 102 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: allowed them to keep valuable assets that would allow them 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: to then, you know, harp to replenish while getting a 104 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: guy not the same player. I mean, they're tackling Trannrickson 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: doesn't play the run. Max cross is one of the 106 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: best run defending edges of the league. Trannerson probably a 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: slightly better pass rusher, but certainly similar. Crosby's a better 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: player and younger. By the way, Trey Hendrickson is coming 109 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: off of all kinds of injuries and surgeries and like 110 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: they're going to pass his physical. You've had the doctor 111 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: who did the surgery doctor Neil Attache, which is a 112 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: familiar name to Browns fans. I'm sure for a variety 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: of reasons, but saying that he's exactly where he's supposed 114 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 3: to be. Diana Russini is saying that the Ravens absolutely 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: knew the deal when they agreed to it, and nothing 116 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 3: changed since then. They just you have a league in 117 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: up or. I think they should be penalized a first 118 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: round pick. If you're asking me, I'd be like, Okay, 119 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna pull this. You're losing one of those first 120 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: round picks. That's if I was running the NFL. Obviously, 121 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: if you have a thorough investigation, you are innocent until 122 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: proven guilty. In this country, it sure looks that way. 123 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: The fact that they make cal Brahm was saying, I 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: want to hear from the Ravens, like you're posting funny 125 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: stuff on social media. 126 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: You need to make a statement about what happened here. 127 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: They have not the fact that Trey Hendrickson we now 128 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 2: know they were negotiating with Trey Hendrickson while Max Crosby 129 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: was in the building. Yep. 130 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: I mean last night people were joking if they signed 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: Trey hendricks and you know exactly what happened. Well, guess 132 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: what we woke up this morning and that's exactly what 133 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: they did. Two of what I consider to be most Again, 134 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: I am being judgmental on this one, granted without all 135 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: the facts that just there are too many people. The 136 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: way Tom Pellisara was talking on the Insiders last night, 137 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: by the way his hockey mullet is tremendous that he's 138 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: going with right now, you could tell that he was 139 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: himself personally fired up, that there were people he was 140 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: talking to who were very, very very fired up around 141 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: league about Yes, so you have that, and then you 142 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: will talk about the joke of eighty three points later. 143 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 3: But just I was captivated by because all of a sudden, 144 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: you see this young Gabriel's the one who alerted me. Yeah, 145 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what's he talking about? I thought maybe 146 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: it was just mad. Nobody responded, I'm like, wait, I 147 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: responded to your text about Crosby. 148 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: I was there. 149 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: It was a real stunning situation that then played out 150 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: in probably the most absurdly predictable way possible. That leaves 151 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: very little room to think that everything that happened here 152 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: was just. 153 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: Completely above board. The way that you would want it 154 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: to be. 155 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: And I'm going to tell you this, and I know 156 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: certain I know things about NFL organizations where yeah, you 157 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: may have oh yeah, we really like this guy. He's 158 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: here to sign his contract, and you've got somebody else 159 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: on the phone that yeah, you're gonna Workah, we're going 160 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: to delay this if we are this guy. Yes, sorry, pal, 161 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: that happens. That's real, and that's I think exactly what 162 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: happened here. 163 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that they said, hold on a second, 164 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: we can get eighty percent of the player for the 165 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: same price and keep our picks. Yeah, sold, will do that. 166 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: And so I wonder to me, I wonder if the 167 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: way to punish them, And again I'm on the record, 168 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna take anything from them. I 169 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: don't think penalty because of what I said. I just think, 170 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: now you just have to make sure this doesn't happen again. 171 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you make just get rid 172 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: of the legal tampering and jennifery as soon as That's 173 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: why I said, like, move the combine into March, so 174 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: that this starts in the middle of February and all 175 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: of this is wrapped up by today. The beginning of 176 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: the league year and do that and then the combines 177 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: after it, or make the beginning of the league year 178 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: is completely arbitrary. You can make it any time you want. 179 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: Do the beginning of the league year the Monday at 180 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: four o'clock that the combine starts, and do it then, 181 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: so that as soon as you do agree to a deal, 182 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: you can sign it. Because the team that's really jobbed 183 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: here is the Raiders. They are I mean, this is sticking. 184 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. Their entire plan in free agency was 185 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: predicated on two first round picks in the next two drafts. 186 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: It was predicated on the financial flexibility of not having 187 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: Max Crosby on their roster. Yes, and now what think 188 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: about all the decisions that were every the league about it? 189 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: You know, Kyle said, so could the Cowboys go and say, 190 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: all right, we don't want Rashan Gary, we get out 191 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: of this trade. Now we're going to go trade for 192 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: Max Krosby. The ripple effects, that's why it can't be 193 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: the way that it was. That's why there has to 194 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: be there may what about this, because what if. 195 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: You say you can't sign Trey Hendrickson, they should say 196 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: that Maybe that's the answer, he's ineligible to play for 197 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 2: you. You would agreed in principle, that'd be very easy to 198 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: get the paper trail on it. You'd have the paper trailer, 199 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: electronic trail on it. You agreed in principle to a 200 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: deal with another member of this club, this NFL club, 201 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: that deal, then they made decisions predicated on that deal 202 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: being believed to have been consummated. The whole league, the 203 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: whole league, The whole league made decisions. We live in 204 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: a society here, for God's sakes. You don't want to 205 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: sign Max Crosby, Okay, fine, but you can't sign Trey 206 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: Hendrickson either. I think the report because the thing I 207 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: heard last night. Okay, fine, but they better not sign Hendrickson. Okay, fine, 208 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: you want to avoid it. He's worse offt than you 209 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: thought healthwise, Okay, fine, but you cannot sign Hendrickson. 210 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: I don't believe what I'm gonna say, but what they 211 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: I think, what I believe they would say is we 212 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: were actually we were going to do both. We're going 213 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: to trade for Crosby. We restructured Lamar so we could 214 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: also sign Trey Hendrickson. So it wasn't one or the other. 215 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's what they will say, yeah, which I 216 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: don't believe. Which I don't believe. No, no, And the 217 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: reality is no one's going to do business with them 218 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: for a long time. 219 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing he had and he had some 220 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: people certainly carrying water for him, which is ridiculous. But 221 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: you have a situation where, let's not forget, this is 222 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: a Ravens team. Okay, draftics are valuable. A second round 223 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: draft picks a valuable pick, right, Yeah, So Ravens seemed 224 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: to took David a Jabo in the second round yep, 225 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: right after he had rupped his achilles on his pro day. 226 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Okay, to Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. 227 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: There's also a Raiders team that said Jay r Alexander 228 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: was fine when they traded him to the Eagles and 229 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: he ended up retiring like a day later and couldn't play. 230 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: They are not afraid of taking on some risks. They 231 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: are also a team that a few years ago, when 232 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: Ryan Grant the free agent with Green Bay Packer, free 233 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: agent that they agreed in principle to all of a sudden, 234 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: Michael Crabtree became available. They said, oh no, you don't 235 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: pass our physical and then they get Michael Krapt This 236 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 3: is not not same people, no, but same org. This 237 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: to me, it's just the NFL not saying anything. I 238 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: think is wild. I think the Ravens not saying anything 239 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: is wild. The Raiders were clearly pissed. You've heard now, 240 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: you know, agents saying we're not going to do but 241 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: you can't trust these guys and people. 242 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: Are not happy about it. 243 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: Will that actually go to anything when somebody needs something 244 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: that the Ravens have, or the Ravens are the team 245 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: that makes the best offer to somebody. Probably not, but 246 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: there I am with you. I believe there needs to 247 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: be some type of investigation and then punishment, if applicable, 248 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: for what has transpired here. 249 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: If the integrity of your off season matters at all, 250 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: it has to happen. I agree, so reactionary. You have 251 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: to find some way to penalize them. They have to. 252 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: They have to be penalized for what they've done. However 253 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: that's going to be However, whatever that looks like, I 254 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm guess you're gonna have thirty one owners 255 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: that are pretty pissed off. 256 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: I think those owners meetings that are coming up yeah, 257 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: not in the not too distant future. 258 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: Are going to be Is it next week? I think 259 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: it's right after it in Arizona. Okay, so that's coming 260 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: up in two weeks. You're gonna have thirty one owners 261 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: who are pretty pissed off about it. You got to 262 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: answer to them, right, Yeah, So that's punitive. And then 263 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: the other thing that has to happen is the NFL 264 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: has to change its calendar. You cannot be in a 265 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: situation where you allow for something like this to happen 266 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: again and allow for teams to go through their free 267 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: agent process believing that their roster looks one way, only 268 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: to have the rug pulled out from under them two 269 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: days later. That you can't have that, So you legal 270 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: tampering has to go away. You got to change the 271 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: league year to February. If that's what you want. You 272 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: want the combine to be the last week of February, okay, fine, 273 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: then the league year has to start the Monday after 274 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. That's the new league year. It starts then, 275 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: so that when you go to the combine and you 276 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: agree to a deal at the combine, you can sign 277 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: on the line which is dotted, and that thing's locked in, 278 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 2: you cannot have teams. You're right. The butterfly effect of 279 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: this goes throughout the entire league. Huge. The biggest penalized 280 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: operation here is the Raiders by far, Like I don't 281 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: even know how they pivot out of this, Like, what 282 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: could you get Max Crosby for now? 283 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 3: They're supposedly not going to change what they're doing in 284 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: terms of what they're asking for. 285 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: There's no suitors. 286 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: The suitors have already been could up, of course, and 287 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:57,359 Speaker 3: that's who's a part of me wishes that then the 288 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: Cowboys and Kyle was adamant about this, and I think 289 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: he was right. I should say, if we prefer Max Crosby, 290 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: we should get out of the Rashan Gary trade. We 291 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: should get like every there should be one hundred things 292 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 3: that are undone and it can all be pinned on this, 293 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: because that would I think at least lead to change 294 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: and hopefully lead to some type of sanctions against the 295 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. There's from what it sounds like. Again, this 296 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: is from what it sounds like. From what it sounds like, 297 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: there is no way that they didn't have all the 298 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: information about where he was in his recovery process. Ian 299 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: Rabbitport wrote an article about this earlier that there's no 300 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: way he's gonna he would pass a physical today, but 301 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: teams understand exactly where he is and that's why they're 302 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: trading for him. Like the Ravens had the information. 303 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: When do you think when do you think it and 304 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: this we're getting You know, this is throwing stuff at 305 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: the wall totally, But when when do you think that 306 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: it clicked to them? What was the moment that it 307 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: clicked that it was like, oh, maybe we should do 308 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: this instead. 309 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: I think it's when the report came out. I want 310 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: to say, was it yesterday we were talking about Trey 311 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: Hendrickson and that the word was that Trey Hendrickson and 312 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: teams were ten million apart in what they wanted. 313 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: So then they said, oh, it's. 314 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: So he's now he's max thirty but probably in the twenties. Yeah, 315 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: because people thought it was gonna be thirty five. So 316 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: now you're saying yourself, Okay, he's probably around twenty five 317 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: is the best he's getting. 318 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: We can beat that. 319 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: We'll let's pay him twenty eight, which is guess what, 320 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: that's what they did, and we'll keep our two ones. 321 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think That's what I think. As soon as 322 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: that happen and they're like, oh, the market isn't robust 323 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: for Trey. Trey was down the line with the Colts 324 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: reapidly Bigley and was about ready to sign with the Colts. Yes, 325 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: but what better place for him to play than Baltimore 326 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: because now he can take his vengeance out on the 327 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: Brown family yea and the bank, and now he gets 328 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: to play on a Super Bowl contender. So like, it's 329 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: a no brainer for Trey Hendrickson to do that. So 330 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: once that happened, then to Costa and those guys were like, okay, 331 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: let's pivot. I mean, just imagine being in that room 332 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: as they made that decision knowing full well that Max 333 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean, like, do you put Max Crosby through the 334 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: physical knowing he's not going to pass it? You have 335 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: the right card at that point, then you know, yeah, 336 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: you can say whatever you want. And how that's like 337 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: you think about all the things this league does for integrity. 338 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: You think about you know, the gambling stuff, all of 339 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: the stuff that this league does to make sure that 340 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: things are fair and on the up and up, and 341 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: this happens. That's why this is so well That's why 342 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: to me, it's I think there I'd love for them 343 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: to do something punitively to them. I'm not optimistic, but 344 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: they definitely have to make sure it doesn't happen again. 345 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that, you know, people would argue, 346 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: the Ravens would argue, even if this was done, he 347 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: still had to come past a physical I just think 348 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: it's the legal tampering period has made very little sense 349 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: for a long time anyway. And you just I just 350 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: think you just so you can even say nude on 351 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: Monday noon, on the Monday of this week, it's all 352 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: go time. I'm with you at the combine if it's 353 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: happened at the combine. But I just think that's too 354 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: much that want to give the draft kids the spotlight there. 355 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: If all of a sudden the kind of moves, nothing 356 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: about news being broken about this, that whatever. 357 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Then move the combo. 358 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: I would just flop them two weeks. I would go 359 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: the league year then and then the combine. 360 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: Now just swap places. Yeah yeah on the calendar, Yeah, 361 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: do the league years starting when the Combine starts, and 362 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: do the combine this week. 363 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: It also would make sense to me for teams going 364 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: now that you've had your two weeks of free agency 365 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: and you fleshed out your roster a little bit. You're 366 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: going the combine now with a better understanding of what 367 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: you're truly looking for so that you can work smarter 368 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: and narrow in. It just makes all the sense in 369 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 3: the world. 370 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's an easy fix. Yeah, League year 371 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: to February, move the combine to the first week in 372 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: March or second week in March, and away you go. 373 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm guessing that part of the reason is for content, 374 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: because now you're in the middle of a million things 375 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: going on in the sports world, and so now it's 376 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: not as it's not an ideal time the way it 377 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: happens to the middle of February, it's kind of on 378 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: an island. But it would be free agency then, but 379 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: free agency would be then, so you'd get that, Yeah, 380 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: and you could the combine right after it. Then if 381 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: you know at that point, if that this deal would 382 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: have gone through your team like the Raiders, now your 383 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: combine approach is totally different. Now you're picking at one 384 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: and fourteen. If this deal actually happened, Yep, it didn't, 385 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: so like in that sense, no harm, but like I 386 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: don't know this can't happen again. No, what happened here 387 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: can't happen again. I'm with you. I think it is. 388 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: It is definitely a stain on this process. It is. 389 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty wild to me, and you can you 390 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: know how upset people around the league are, and it 391 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: feels like justifiably so it's pretty pretty wild. It's pretty wild, 392 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: it is. 393 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: This is the full statement from the Raiders on their 394 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: social media. It's still the only thing on the front 395 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: page of their website. The Baltimore Ravens have backed out 396 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: of our trade agreement for Max Crosby. We have no 397 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: further comment at this time. That's it, Diana Rassini. Many 398 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: of the legally GM Eric DeCosta and the Ravens ultimately 399 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: just got cold feet. No, I don't buy that. I 400 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: do know by that, not at all. No, there was 401 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: a lot more to this, and I think you probably 402 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: are right, And I don't know how you could come 403 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: to any other conclusion quite honestly, you know, it doesn't 404 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: feel like easy thing would be just he can't play 405 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: for you. Hendrickson can't play for you. You can't sign him, 406 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: You're ineligible to sign him. That's why I think they 407 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: should take one of their picks. I really do. I 408 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 2: think they should take one of their picks. There's got 409 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: to be a penalty for it, though, I don't think 410 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: there's going to be. I agree with you. I mean, 411 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: that'shy I said all right at the top. I don't 412 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: think there's gonna be a damn thing done about this. 413 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: I think that you will fix it so it doesn't 414 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: happen again. Yep, the league will be very proactive with that. 415 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: But I think there's so many ways for the Ravens 416 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: to wiggle out. Plausible deniability. That's the word, the two words. 417 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: It's exactly that, Like they can come up with a 418 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 2: bunch of different things, and how are you ever going 419 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: to prove it he failed physical? They can just keep 420 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: leaning on that. It's not a lie if you believe it, Jerry, 421 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: it's thirty two medical tunes man practicing medicine. Right, Yeah, 422 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: bad job. 423 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: Really really it's bad. And it like to your point, 424 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: this it makes the league look bad, Yes it does. 425 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you and I know intimately what this league 426 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: does to make sure that everything is on the up 427 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: and up. Yeah, the lengths are extreme, quite and this 428 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: this happens on your watch yeah. 429 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: So here's my question, where do the Raiders stand right 430 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 4: now on the salary? 431 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 3: Plenty of money they have, they have, they have money. 432 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: They still okay even with him there. 433 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: So they're scrambling right now, forty minutes to go till 434 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: the new year starts. 435 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: Now to get out of the case. I think they 436 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: had one of the wasn't like ninety a ton but 437 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: like everything they didn't free agency. Free agency was predicated 438 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: on him not being there and that they were going 439 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 2: to have two ones the next two drafts. There's no 440 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: question you behave differently. They walked away from. 441 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 4: Three or four other teams that were offering a one. 442 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: And a two. 443 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean even that, Yes, for sure I have something. 444 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know where the landing spot for 445 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: him is now. I have no idea where they go 446 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: from here. So I feel bad for them. Bad stuff. 447 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: And you know, can you imagine God rest his soul 448 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: if Al Davis were still around? Oh man, the saber rattling. 449 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: He sued the league about every two years for a 450 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: while there. Yep, crazy story, absolutely crazy. We did have 451 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 2: some action on our side of things, Elton Jenkins reportedly 452 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: in the mix. We've agreed to terms of form of 453 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: the Packers. Center guard Elton Jenkins on a two year deal. 454 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: Former second round pick of the Green Bay Packers in 455 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen draft, two time Pro bowler, quite versatile, 456 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: played snaps at every position on the offensive line and 457 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: his career mainly a guard, but played center last year 458 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: for the Packers. Six' five three eleven has started ninety 459 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: four the ninety six games in his. Career so that's 460 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: two offensive linemen that we've acquired who are incredibly what's? 461 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: Reliable thank? 462 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: You, jenkins pro bowler at, guard not as. Center some 463 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: a lot of people seem to like him a lot 464 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: better as a. Guard i'll be curious to see if 465 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 3: he is a guard or a center for. Us if 466 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: he was a, guard then he's a guard with some center, 467 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: Ability so you could look at. It as you, Know 468 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 3: Luke whippler would be your. Center jenkins And Zion johnson. 469 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: Would be your. 470 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: Guards, howard your right tackle will still need a left. 471 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 3: Tackle Tevin jenkins has been brought in to be your swing. 472 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: Guard You dewan likely would be your swing, tackle and 473 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: then you still need to figure out the left tackle. 474 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: Position do The browns do? That in free. Agency do 475 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: they do that in the. Draft that's what remains to be. 476 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: Seen in addition to, that we signed a tight. End 477 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: Jack stall signs a one year. Deal five year pro 478 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: head stops In, Philly, miami most Recently New orleans in five, 479 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: years twenty eight. Catches he did suffer a season ending 480 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: knee injury in week. Seventeen do we know what that injury? 481 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: Is is it AN acl or is it A i 482 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: hope he can pass his. Physical just said knee. Injury, 483 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: yeah interesting. 484 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: Blocking tight, end inline tight end kind of you miss out. 485 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: On you, Know Charlie coler ends up getting eight million 486 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: dollars a. YEAR i still think The browns are going 487 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 3: to go for who's the guy From Ohio? State not 488 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: not the main guy Kas. AMERICA i THINK i think 489 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: Kas america is somebody who's going to be on their 490 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: radar to be in that role as. Well, yeah this 491 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: guy's this guy's a. Blocker eleven catches in the seasons 492 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: the most he's ever, had caught his first touchdown last. 493 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: Year but that's what he's being brought in to be 494 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: is kind of be that That Charlie kohler type for this. 495 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 3: Team and there's there's he's going to be competing, two you, 496 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: know make the. ROSTER i don't think this is one 497 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: of those where it's, like, oh we'll see what the contract, 498 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: is but my guess is that's what it will. Be, 499 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 3: this says still appears to be back to full health 500 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: afterurning of the twenty twenty five season ON ir due 501 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: to a knee. 502 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: Issue will provide depth Behind Harold. Fannin. 503 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah more of a, blocker that's what he's going to, 504 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: be and has been a pretty good has been a 505 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 3: pretty good blocker in his. Career so that's what He 506 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: that's the expectation for me with that, signing that he 507 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 3: will compete to be that The Charlie kohler of this 508 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 3: offense after he got paid bigly there with the who 509 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: got Signed coller The Chargers. 510 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: Charger, yes, YEAH i See schefter explaining the like The crosby. 511 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: Circumstances NOW, NFL, nfl. 512 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 3: He's definitely been on The, yeah well it seems like 513 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 3: and then But russini also then tweeted out that they 514 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: had all the. Information people are on the league are 515 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: convinced they had all the information at, all and they. 516 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: Changed so then THE nfl REPORTERS nfl Dot com reporters 517 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: are swaying the other. Way, yes, yeah what did schefter? 518 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: SAY i don't. Know he just he was on that 519 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: show at the top of the hour explaining kind of 520 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: how it all went down or what. Happened but he 521 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: can't have. It cannot have. This you can't have. 522 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 3: It and and by the, way it makes sense for 523 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: anybody who does business with the league to try and 524 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: say that. 525 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: This is all above. 526 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: Board, right, Yeah and that's that's what you're gonna. Say 527 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: AND i know that it's sad to think that. It 528 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: people Are there are reasons that people do a great many. 529 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: Things this one just has a bad look to, It 530 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: there's no question about. It The ravens apparently have just 531 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: announced That Eric acosta will be available to reporters discuss 532 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: the start a free agency at five pm today In Owings. 533 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: MILLS, Whoa, well that'll be. Fun you think lock and 534 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: four will be? THERE i hope. So boy angry lobster 535 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 2: was fired, up was putting body begs in. TODAY i 536 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: Blame simon for all of. This that's WHAT i said to. 537 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: Him this is a guy who promises Says i'm taking 538 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: you out for a free. Dinner and then sticks you 539 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: with the. Bill this is the. 540 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: Here's what we're taking to a free. Dinner That's, Paola 541 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 2: that's what it. IS i, mean that's he had trade. 542 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: His. 543 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: Pocket, no, no, yeah so that's what it's in the 544 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: culture over. There, yeah it's a culture there there they 545 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: got over. There that's that's absolutely. Brutal one other thing 546 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: around the league before we hit this first break and 547 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: we will get into eighty three a little bit. Later 548 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: Andrew marshaw and among, others THE nfl is looking Into 549 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving eve to play. Games SO i have this. 550 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: A little. 551 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: Later BUT i felt like that you talking about. 552 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: IT i felt like that, Announcement oh there IS i 553 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: see it in there four. O'clock wasn't that announcement pretty intentionally? 554 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: Timed look at this fire over, here paid no attention 555 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: to the one that's over. HERE i, mean why did 556 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: that have to come out? Today great? 557 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 4: Point, YEAH i mean it comes on the heels of 558 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: like the commissioner back In december saying we're looking to 559 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 4: add a second game potentially On Black. Friday, Yeah i'm, like, 560 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 4: well the, one the one you have right now isn't 561 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: exactly lighting the world on. 562 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: Fire, no the other thing, Was AND i saw this 563 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: from AN i want to, say one of THE nba 564 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: guys THAT i follow had this up that THE nba 565 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: has been playing On Thanksgiving eve and they've actually rated pretty, 566 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: well like two million or. Whatever AND i just think 567 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: we THE nfl just wants to bury them at all. 568 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: Costs so you just this. Up they've already Taken Christmas 569 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: day away from. Them you, know. 570 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: There is a part of Me i'm all in IF 571 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 4: i get the whole weekend off after. 572 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: That, SURE i think the scheduling logistics are going to 573 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: be pretty interesting for the two teams playing in. It, 574 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah AND i think WHILE i don't think that THE 575 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: nfl needs to be played seven days a week at, 576 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: ALL i think it makes it very difficult for the 577 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: people who are actually part of the. LEAGUE i do 578 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: think THAT i think about that that is the First. Friday, 579 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 2: yes like if you're out and about and there's AN 580 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: nfl game on the, bar, like that's a. Win that's a. Win, 581 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: yeah so it's a. WIN i don't how much'll pay 582 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: attention to, it but, yeah but it'll be on and 583 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: people will. 584 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: Watch that's EXACTLY i mean a nine day stretch that 585 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 4: it would include seven days OF nfl. 586 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: Games that's a, Lot yeah it. Is those are your 587 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: hot topics of, today presented By University, Hospitals Special healthcare 588 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: partner of Your Cleveland. 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Complete that's. 603 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: Right this week topic in honor of free, agency Starting 604 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: Best brown's offseason acquisition since returning in nineteen ninety nine to. 605 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: Refresh the one eight matchup Was Jarvis landry Versus Kevin, 606 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: zeitler the two seven Was Odell Beckham junior Against Jack, 607 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: conklin the three six Was Amari cooper Versus Jamiir, miller 608 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: and the four to five Was Jadevian clowney Versus Jamal. 609 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: Lewis i'm not going to go over the winners, yet 610 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: BUT i would just say, This this tells me that 611 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: we did a poor job of seating or that we 612 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: view these much differently than our fans, do because there's 613 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: not one that's fifty three forty. Seven they're all, lopsided, 614 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: yeah some. 615 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: Dramatically SO i think there's a lot of bitterness that 616 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: could be didn't. 617 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: Play, yeah that you can't separate the way things, ended 618 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: sure where these things. 619 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: Began there's absolutely no world in Which Odell Beckham junior 620 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: isn't one of the top two. Answers there's just, nothing, 621 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: Really at least as of, yesterday he was getting smoked 622 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: By Jack conklin like. 623 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: That he continued to get that. Lunacy so there the 624 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: number one podcast in the world that's sports podcast podcast 625 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: in the world an Emergency Browns daily about Getting Odell 626 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: beckham number one sports podcast in The world's results go? 627 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: Ahead is? That BUT i, mean is that? Why it's 628 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: like the hype didn't equal the. RESULTS i think the 629 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: bitterness it's A, baker it's all of. 630 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: It there are there are many people in our fan 631 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: base who Blame Odell Beckham junior for the end Of 632 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: Baker mayfield's time In, cleveland which there's no doubt there's 633 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: some link between the, two no doubt. 634 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: He ended up. Here is it? Really is? It it's 635 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: two and a half, years two and a half, years 636 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: two and a. Half first year he was seventy four 637 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: for thirty. Five it was really one. Year it's one 638 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: year a, half a year and a half, year, right, 639 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: yeah it's one year a half. Year he played seven 640 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: games in year two because he had the injury twenty you, 641 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: know twenty three for three, nineteen and then then he 642 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: played thirteen, games actually fourteen games in his last year. Here, no, 643 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: no let me get this, right really, no, no that's. 644 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: Right he only played six games and then they traded 645 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: him to The. Rams he played, six so he played, 646 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: sixteen seven and six before heading to The rams and 647 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: then tore his knee in The Super bowl right right 648 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: where he might have WON. Mvp he was, honest hey 649 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: not he was on his way to be able to do. 650 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: It so, YEAH i MEAN i think that is a. 651 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: God this his career is pretty wild you think about. It, 652 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: YEAH i mean it go he goes. Good he was 653 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: ninety one for thirteen oh five and twelve in twelve. 654 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: Games twelve, games, Yes rick, here he had a hamstring 655 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: injury that cost the first four. Games. Yeah he went 656 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: ninety six for fourteen fifty and, thirteen then one oh 657 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: one thirteen sixty seven and. Ten He's All pro in 658 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: his second and third, year second Team All pro both 659 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: year both, times and then gets hurt in his fourth, 660 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: year fifth, year another thousand fifty two with the with 661 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: the g. Men it's a it's kind of a Little grant. Hillish, yeah, 662 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: well it's. Good it's really. Good. YEAH i Mean grant 663 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: was on this trajectory of, like Good, lord to see 664 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: the Next jordanish. Guy and then the injuries started to 665 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 2: happen and he couldn't. Happen it couldn't ge out of the. 666 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: Way Grant, Hill Derreck Rose Derek rowse is another great. One, 667 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: yeah shouldn't have been in the. Game, yeah, YEAH i 668 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: was thinking about this. Randomly stevie franchise came into my 669 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: head For Steve Francis. Maryland remember how electric he was 670 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: and then he went To vancouver and lit them lit it, Up, 671 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: yeah and then it then he went To houston was 672 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: and then kind. 673 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 5: Of just all. 674 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: Off so, yeah, anyway your matchup go. 675 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: AHEAD i just a little bit of. News The browns 676 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: have tendered restricted free Agent Ronnie. Hickman the reports where 677 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: he was going to get a second round, tender we 678 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: went through, this but this is now. OFFICIAL i guess 679 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: that we're reporting. That AS i look back, here the 680 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: other guys that we could Tender Mahmood diabat would be. 681 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: One Sam webb the corner is a restricted free. Agent 682 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: Sam kamara is a restricted free. Agent Blake whiteheart is 683 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: a restricted free. Agent those are all the guys that 684 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 3: we could give restricted free agent tenders, Too so we'll 685 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: see if there are any more that are announced there 686 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: by The Cleveland browns all right back this, bracket which 687 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: is why it's At, honestly it's almost like. 688 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: It's a little HARD i. See, Yeah so ideally when 689 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: you come up with a. POLE a really good poll 690 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: should end fifty three forty. Seven that's a that's a 691 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: that's a great. POLL i knew some of these would 692 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: be very, lopsided BUT i did not think they would 693 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 2: be as lap cited as they. Are it also tells 694 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: me that for the most, part our audience skews. Younger 695 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: Because Jamiir miller was bombed, too AND i wasn't here for, 696 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 2: that but you, know you guys vouch for how good 697 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 2: he wasn't a big deal that. Was so the one 698 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 2: eight Is jarvis Over zeitler ninety one percent to nine. 699 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: Percent that's, Appropriate that's an appropriate. Outcome the two, Seven 700 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: Odell Beckham junior ended with thirty nine percent of the. 701 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: Vote Jack conklin was sixty one percent of the. 702 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: Vote Jack conklin was the First Teamal pro with The, 703 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: browns was a first Team All pro prior to coming 704 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 3: to The. 705 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: Browns BUT i mean. 706 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: To say that these were and Unfortunately Jack conklin played WHAT. 707 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: I was just gonna, say like how he didn't have. 708 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: Consecutive seasons with ten games with The Cleveland. BROWNS i 709 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: know that for. 710 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: Sure you, know it used to be so nice when 711 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: you would go To Football reference AND u and one 712 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: thousand stupid. Things so he played fifteen games in year 713 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: one and was the first, twenty then, seven then, fourteen then, 714 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: one then, twelve then eight. Yep SO i, mean, yeah good, 715 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 2: dude just couldn't stay, healthy couldn't stay. Healthy but nevertheless 716 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: he beats ob. J so his matchup in the what 717 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: should be the in the two three this will be 718 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: the bottom half of the bracket will Be Amari, cooper 719 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: who just wipes the floor With Jamir miller eighty seven 720 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: percent to. Thirteen that doesn't surprise. Me, YEAH i just 721 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 2: Think miller was so long ago THAT i think people. 722 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: Forget this is the opposite of, that Because Jamal lewis 723 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: was a long time, ago And Jamal lewis Beat Jenevian 724 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: clowney eighty percent to. 725 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: TWENTY i feel like that's when it ended With. Clowney 726 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 4: it ended so. 727 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: Badly he kind of refused to, play, right that's? 728 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, YEAH i mean, YEAH i think there's a 729 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: lot of people getting people feeling. 730 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: Excited about the hype. 731 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: And then hating the reality and saying, no that's you, 732 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: know that's. It So i'm THAT'S i think these are. 733 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 3: VOTES i think those are votes and as as we've 734 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 3: come to a point in our country where we do 735 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: this a great, deal these are votes Against Odellan, CLOWNEY i, 736 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: agree more than they are votes For conklin And jamal. 737 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: With anybody but that. Guy, yes, yeah, Yes so your 738 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 2: semi final will Be jarvis Versus Jamal lewis And Jack 739 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: conklan Versus Amari. Cooper this is going to come down 740 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: To jarvis And, amari AND i really Am i'm very 741 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: curious how our fans that'll feel about those, two BECAUSE 742 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: i KNOW i think it would. Go BUT i Think 743 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: jarvis will, win, yes BUT i Think amari maybe. Should 744 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: AND i Liked jarvis a lot more BECAUSE i got 745 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: to Know jarvis a lot. MORE i didn't really Know amari. 746 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: Much jarvis used to come in all the. Time, YEAH 747 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: i talked to A Mario. AGREE i know you, did 748 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: because you were you, know that's a little real student 749 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: of the. Game but like he was never in. Here, 750 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 2: NO i don't know That amari ever came in. Here 751 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: that seems to be. Over that was over like in 752 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 2: those the first couple of. Years Like jarvis was in 753 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: here once a quarter at. Least, yeah, yeah three, four 754 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: times a year we'd See, jarvis so we get to 755 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 2: know him, well so like, personally And i'm Sure mari's. 756 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: GREAT i just didn't Know hi the WAY i Know. 757 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 2: Jarvis But amari is responsible for the better run, here, 758 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: yep so THAT i think we're probably headed for. That 759 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: so you guys are gonna make these live. Now. 760 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah uh g man's finishing that up. Now got a 761 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 4: couple comments from the polls. Yesterday by the, way thanks 762 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 4: to everybody. Voted were trying this out and literally over 763 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: a thousand people put in. Votes thank, you good job 764 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 4: in the twenty four. Hours World's team, Gibbing World's. Team that's, 765 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 4: Right John. Schirtzer would have been interesting to include The 766 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 4: Charles bentley obviously not productive, tragically but the buzz was 767 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 4: really big at the. Time that was that was when 768 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 4: we brought a bunch of guys home and he got 769 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 4: hurt on literally the first day of training. 770 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: Camp didn't he get a staff? Infection then he got, 771 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: well we had a lot of guys get staff. Infected 772 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: was that like the same year as Like? Juravicious was 773 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: that all of the same? 774 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 4: Time, yep that's. Right we Brought juravicious back With. Charles, 775 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 4: yeah and there was a ton of buzz like The 776 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: charles was a big name that wanted to be. 777 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 5: Here. 778 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he's now like training high school offensive, lineman isn't. 779 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 4: HE i think he's even training college and and pro 780 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 4: life pros. 781 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 2: Too yeah, yeah yeah. 782 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah by the, way this is just in From New. 783 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 3: York following the departure Of Nick, folk who was one 784 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 3: of the bright spots for The, jets led the league 785 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 3: and field goal percentage last. Year he agreed to sign 786 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: with The falcons this. Week The jets that brought In Cade. 787 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: York look there to be the. 788 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 3: Kicker york spent time with The saints in twenty twenty, 789 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 3: five but did not appear in any. 790 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: GAMES i saw The Scottish hammers a free, agent is? He, 791 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 4: yeah THAT'S i think The giants were parting ways with. 792 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 4: Him another couple, Comments Bobby meckling, said because BECAUSE i 793 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: always wanted to vote for the old. Lineman but just 794 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 4: from a culture, Standpoint land re changed the. Culture, Also 795 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 4: cleveland is the. Reason what About Kreem. Hunt we we 796 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 4: went with guys just strictly off, season And kareem was 797 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 4: an addition in. 798 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 2: Season. Yeah, yeah the uh when when we When jarvis 799 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: was done. Here that was. THAT i want to say 800 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: it was. Beamsy that was a teary Eyed beams because 801 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: he was a Massive jarvis, guy Loved, jarvis AND I 802 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 2: jarvis has had an incredibly low profile unless you guys see. 803 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: STUFF i don't incredibly low profile since stopped playing in the. 804 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 2: League was his last stop In New, ORLEANS, yep a 805 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 2: couple of years. Ago AND i haven't he's not on social, 806 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 2: LIKE i don't. 807 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 5: See any of. 808 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,919 Speaker 2: THIS i think he's, chilling chill with his, family chilling 809 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: with his, family probably In. Louisiana so doctor says he 810 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 2: does have a. Podcast OH i. Don't it's. Weird it 811 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: hasn't just. Started he, Said, Oh i'll tell you. What 812 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 2: if he wins, this let's try to find a way 813 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: to reach out and get him on to him and 814 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: reminisce about his time. Here my hunch is, that aside 815 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: from his time AT, lsu this was the favorite time 816 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: of his career because he was shot out of cannon In, 817 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: miami but that had some ups and downs and, stuff 818 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: and he was a part of some of the most 819 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 2: magical wins that we've, had and the buzz around, IT 820 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: i mean on the cover of S i with his 821 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: buddy high SCHOOL i, mean college. Teammate, like there was 822 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 2: just so many cool things to. It so, yeah that'd 823 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: be fun to have him. On by the, way someone did. 824 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 4: Respond remember we were trying to figure out who the 825 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 4: third trade was on that first. 826 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: Show oh, Yeah Don. Taylor oh my, gosh that's. Right 827 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: so he sent a third was it To buffalo for 828 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: for To Rod? Taylor he was a? THIRD i don't, 829 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 2: know but we brought in To. Rod that's, Wild, yeah 830 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: that's pretty wild and. Right but we brought in To Maarus. 831 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: RANDALL i wonder. WHAT i wonder What dors it? Was, 832 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: yeah and Then, JARVIS i wonder what the thinking was 833 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: you knew you were taking a quarterback. ONE i wonder 834 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 2: if it Was dors. Saying we just did this In 835 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: Kansas city and we Had mahomes set and we Got 836 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: Alex smith and it. Worked Alex, smith, though was nurturing 837 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: and was a former number one overall pick. Himself, sure, yeah. 838 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 3: And was Now But torod had taken The bills to the, 839 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 3: playoffs albeit not in a very exciting offensive. 840 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: Fashion. No, no there's a great. 841 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 3: Story from some of the people who are in an 842 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: organization now that we're with The bills at the time 843 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 3: that at that playoff, game one Of gibai's probably idols 844 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 3: was in their suite and basically, pillaged, plundered and pilfered 845 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 3: every loose artifact that was there and took them all 846 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 3: for himself and left after what was called a incredible 847 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: display of consumption and. 848 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: PILFERING i can't wait to break to get this the 849 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: story on all of. 850 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 4: This by the, Way landry's new podcast is With Leonard Fournette, 851 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 4: south a new podcast where the standouts will talk about 852 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 4: what it's really like to play the game of, football 853 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 4: covering the incredible, highs the painful, lows and everything in. 854 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 2: BETWEEN i, Mean jervis is going to be great at. 855 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,959 Speaker 2: THAT i have no idea About, fournette like if he's, 856 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: good but Like jarvis will be very good at. That, 857 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 2: YEAH i bet he'd come. 858 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 4: On, yeah we. 859 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: Always got along gray with. Him i'm sure he'd he'd come. 860 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 2: On he can promote the podcast and and do all 861 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 2: of that so that that feels like a. Win all, 862 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 2: right there you. Go so you Got jarvis And jamal 863 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: and you got Jack. Annamurray those are your semi. Finalists 864 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: we will hit the sports world coming up next to 865 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: us To Cleveland Browns. Daily we're presented by Ballet, bet 866 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: official sports betting Partner Cleveland. 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Today bam at a bio 876 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 2: eighty three last night becomes the second highest scoring game 877 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: IN nba, history Passing Kobe bryant's eighty one seventeen points 878 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 2: shy Of Wilt chamberlain's in forty two. Minutes he was 879 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 2: twenty of forty three from the, field thirty six of 880 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 2: forty three from the, line nine, rebounds three, assists five. 881 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 2: Turnovers he was seven of twenty two from the three point. 882 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 2: Line he had thirty one at the end of the first, 883 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: core he had seventy at the end of the, third 884 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 2: seventy at the end of the. THIRD i loved, it 885 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 2: you love. It when did you become aware of it 886 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: that it was happening? After, oh after it was done? 887 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 2: Done when did you become? 888 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 4: Aware probably early in the FOURTH i WAS i was 889 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 4: outside with the dogs and someone sent me a. Message 890 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 4: it was, like you should probably find this. Game did 891 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 4: you find? 892 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 2: It did you find? It? SO i so what pissed me? 893 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: Off SO i found out he had seventy. SEVEN i 894 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 2: had just gotten home From we had au and lacrosse 895 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 2: all over the, place AND i was driving. AROUND i 896 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: got home around nine fifteen something like, that AND i 897 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 2: was going to watch the end of The Blue jackets. 898 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 2: Game they were up forty, two And i'm, like, okay 899 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 2: well they're, Good they're going to. Win they and then 900 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 2: they get an empty net or to go five to. 901 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 2: Two don't need to pay attention to. That they get a. 902 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 2: Win nice win for. Them AND i was going to 903 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: watch the season finale of season one of Ted, lasso which, 904 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: YES i Know i'm six years, late and but, NEVERTHELESS 905 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 2: i was going to watch the season finale of that 906 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 2: and then go to, bed And i'm, like, Well i'll 907 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 2: check and just make sure because earlier in the day 908 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: The Max crosby stuff because of The great G. Man 909 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 2: LIKE i was driving around taking kid from one place 910 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: to the next, ONE i got the thing from G 911 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: man saying the stuff With. Crosby i'm, Like i'm gonna 912 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: hop on social just to see if there's any other 913 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: fallout from this, whatever and it was he had seventy. 914 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: Seven So i'm, like, okay and it was like and 915 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 2: it's in the fourth quarter and there's. Time, Yeah So i'm, like. 916 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 2: Oh and then as a, kid as somebody whorew up 917 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 2: A lakers, FAN i had no interest in him Passing 918 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: kobe's eighty one. None SO i started looking for it 919 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: AND i went at the first PLACE i went WAS NBA. 920 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 2: TV i, thought, well they'll dip into, it, yeah, interrupt 921 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 2: they'll jump into, It and instead it was a. Show 922 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: the only PERSON i recognized on it Was Rudy. Gay 923 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 2: he was on it and they were they were doing 924 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: play by play without showing, it so they were telling 925 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: you what was having but they couldn't show. It AND 926 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: i don't have THE Nba League Pass, Okay SO i 927 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: wasn't able to like go watch. It so and THEN 928 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,280 Speaker 2: i went TO Espn news and they were DOING anfl 929 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 2: free agency, stuff so there wasn't a place to like 930 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 2: go find. It so it wasn't until this MORNING i. Saw, 931 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: OBVIOUSLY i watched as they did the play by, play 932 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: and THEN i saw what happened and the way that 933 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 2: The heat handled the fourth quarter and the way that 934 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 2: The wizard's handled the whole, game and it's it does 935 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 2: hit a little. Different It's i'm not going to. Slight 936 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 2: scoring eighty three points that is. Nuts to shoot thirty 937 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 2: six to forty three from the foul line is. Nuts 938 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 2: it's nuts to shoot forty three foul. Shots that's fourteen 939 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: percent of the free throws he's attempted all. Season, OH 940 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: i didn't know that. Stat that's. Stunning that's. Stunning the 941 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 2: Entire wizards team shot twenty, nine he shot forty. Three, 942 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 2: well so did You i've watched the highlight of the last, 943 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 2: like what is it five? Minutes, yeah, YEAH i. DID 944 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 2: i watched this morning BEFORE i talked about. It there 945 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 2: should have been an. 946 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 3: INTERVENTION i, mean quite, frankly the way that that game, 947 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 3: ended they should just cancel the game at that point and, Said, 948 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 3: okay this is not serious. Anymore you had The heat 949 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 3: fouling A wizard's, team and The heat were up. Thirty, 950 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 3: yep it's the Second they inbounded the ball to preserve 951 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 3: time so that he could then get the ball and 952 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 3: go and run and jump into people and get the. 953 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: Reps were, Complicit they should have. Stopped there were one 954 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 2: hundred percent. 955 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 3: Complicit in, fact it makes you feel like the league 956 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 3: like this was some Anti kobe. 957 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: Thing the whole thing felt very shady to. Me, yeah 958 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 2: so he would jump into, somebody they would be, like. 959 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: Foul he could shoot free. 960 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 3: Throws, Now sometimes some other guys On miami would get fouled, 961 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 3: legitimately and instead of trying to make their free, throws 962 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 3: they were literally throwing the ball off the rim to 963 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 3: try to let him get a. Rebound there was one 964 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 3: where a guy On miami shooting free throws literally chucks 965 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 3: it at the rim as hard as he, can and 966 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 3: then somebody on The wizards bear hugs out Of. Bio 967 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 3: they call a, foul so out Of bio then gets 968 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 3: to shoot free throws with no time coming off the. 969 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 2: Clock they gets a Disgrace i'm with. 970 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 3: You even the announcers, whoever THE tv announcers that they 971 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 3: played something that they were on some of the clips 972 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 3: THAT i, watched thought when he got to, eighty they 973 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 3: were going to take him out of, there, like, ah 974 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 3: he's gonna get the eighty here if he makes these 975 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 3: two free, throws they'll take them out of the game 976 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 3: so that he doesn't Pass. 977 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: Kobe, yeah and then or even time at eighty one 978 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 2: and then shut it. Down, yeah. OUTRAGEOUS i, mean it's 979 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 2: just it was that's just. Gross. It it was VERY. 980 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 2: Aau that's what it reminded me. Of it reminded me, 981 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 2: of you, will there's there was A that's what it 982 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 2: reminded me. Of there was AN aau game in a 983 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 2: tournament That beamsy's team was in last weekend where the 984 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 2: winning team had eighty five the losing team had. Two 985 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 2: what are we? Doing what do We who's but this is? Professional, yeah, 986 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 2: Professionals like what are The wizards? Doing like it's their 987 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 2: job to stop? IT i get, It but you're complicit in. 988 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: This the referees are complicit in. It no one's going 989 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: to remember any of. It and you know the other 990 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: thing about The kobe, comparison that game was one two 991 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 2: to one oh four The lakers Against toronto When kobe 992 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 2: got eighty. One, yeah it was one twenty two to 993 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 2: one oh. Four he SHOT i think he went eighteen 994 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: of twenty two or eighteen of twenty from the foul. Line, 995 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 2: yeah and He's Kobe. Bryant and from the, floor yeah he. 996 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 2: DID i want to see it was like twenty eight 997 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 2: to forty three or something like. That from the. Door 998 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 2: you can pull the box score. Up IT'S i Think 999 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 2: i'm pretty close to. IT i remember this pretty. Vividly 1000 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 2: but The lakers game Against toronto was a competitive game. 1001 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,439 Speaker 2: Totally yes it, was and The lakers pulled away, late 1002 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: but it wasn't. Farcical, No, no we manipulating the. Clock 1003 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 2: they were manipulation of. Clock it was manipulation of. Officials 1004 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 2: it was both teams were in on. IT i think 1005 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: the officials shit have at some point like we're not 1006 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 2: calling more. Fouls this is, dumb its. Stupid what are we? 1007 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 3: Doing like you see that sometimes in you, know like 1008 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 3: rec league games or in you, know grade school games 1009 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 3: where teams are trying to found the, rest like we're 1010 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 3: not calling him if this game's over will stop. 1011 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 2: It we're not gonna call. 1012 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 4: It here's the other thing in That Kobe bryant game 1013 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 4: IS i look at this box score and laugh. Hysterically 1014 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 4: you had Lamar, odom but the rest of the starting 1015 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 4: five Was Chris mim Former, Cavalier. 1016 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 2: Chris, Mim, Mim Smush. Parker, Huh Chris Smush, Parker Smush 1017 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 2: Parker's kwame And Kwame. Brown, yeah that was your Starting 1018 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 2: it Was, Smush, Kobe Lamar, mim And Kwame. 1019 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 4: Brown you had no one on your bench of ANY i, 1020 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 4: Mean Luke walton was on the. 1021 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 2: Bench there's another factor in. This there's another factor in. 1022 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 2: This The Washington wizards are. Tanking this might be the 1023 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 2: BEST nba draft since two thousand and, three and everybody knows. 1024 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: It there's upwards of six guys who a lot for 1025 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 2: the first. Time it really feels like they could come 1026 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 2: in like the way That cooper And conn are playing right, 1027 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 2: now among. Others they think there're gonna be four to 1028 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 2: five guys in this draft who could come in in 1029 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 2: average twenty four game next year in this. Draft so 1030 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 2: there's all these teams that are actively. Tanking The wizards 1031 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 2: are actively. Tanking uh and so that's part of it. 1032 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 2: TOO i just wonder, like at what point were they, like, 1033 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 2: yeah we're going for. It he had thirty one in 1034 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:12,439 Speaker 2: the first. Quarter thirty one in a. Quarter that's. Legit that's. 1035 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 4: Legit that might have outscored The cavs On sunday against 1036 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 4: The celtics in a. Quarter they couldn't hit the broadside 1037 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 4: of a. 1038 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 3: Barn it's just to me now that there will be 1039 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 3: things without contact and you're hearing all THE nba guys 1040 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 3: want asterisk next to this eighty, three AND i think 1041 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 3: they're totally. Justified in, FACT i think it should be 1042 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 3: stricken from the. Record it's not going to. Be but 1043 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 3: there are gonna be people who look at the GREATEST 1044 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 3: nba games ever from terms of, scoring and they're gonna 1045 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 3: see Wil chamberlain one, HUNDRED bam out Of io eighty, 1046 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 3: Three Kobe bryant eighty, one AND bam out Of bio's 1047 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 3: doesn't belong anywhere near the discussion of. 1048 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 2: Those the only thing that. Will and then the other 1049 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 2: thing that's crazy, is, Well wilt's happen In, Hershey. Pennsylvania 1050 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 2: the ONLY i, mean how many people were? There, no 1051 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 2: five thousand people LIKE i get my. Hunches the only 1052 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 2: media members that were there were whoever was the beat 1053 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: guy who was covering The philadelphia seventy six ers for 1054 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: The philadelphia In choir made the drive up To hershey 1055 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 2: to cover. It but, like who saw? That who has 1056 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 2: any idea what that? Looked? Like, yep you, know this 1057 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 2: is one we. Saw we saw The kobe, one and 1058 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 2: if my memory serves on The kobe, one this was 1059 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 2: before social. Media So i'm not going to sit here 1060 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 2: and Pretend i'm not gonna be one of those. PEOPLE 1061 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 2: i remember, What, NO i. DIDN'T i. Didn't it was 1062 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 2: A sunday night. Game i'm almost sure it had to have. 1063 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 2: Been they were in the white jerseys when he did. 1064 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 2: It in those days Of lakers only wore white jerseys On. 1065 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: Sunday they were in white jerseys when he did. It it 1066 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: was Against, toronto so it was probably an, afternoon early 1067 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 2: evening game In Los angeles that was on K cow 1068 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 2: IN la and that's. It now DID NBA tv in 1069 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 2: those days they could jump in like for whatever, reason 1070 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 2: they couldn't jump into, this AND i don't know why that. 1071 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 4: Was this would have been a Prime Hey tuesday night 1072 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 4: inside THE, nba and then you would have had the 1073 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 4: inside THE nba. 1074 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 2: Guys oh my, gosh lighting it up like the fourth. 1075 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: TIME i would, Think, charles we screw this all. 1076 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 4: Up by putting inside THE nba now ON. Espn, yeah 1077 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 4: just there were forty one hundred people supposedly they Watch 1078 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 4: Will chamberlain. 1079 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 2: SCORE i was about right. Then, Yeah, YEAH i do 1080 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 2: wonder if when or one of the inside guys on? 1081 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 2: Again are they on? TONIGHT i would think tonight they've 1082 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 2: got a. Beat, well, well but, no they're in college basketball, 1083 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 2: now so they might do one more inside and then 1084 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 2: there'll be three weeks AT ncaa, tournament so you might 1085 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 2: not see him in a. While. Yeah so if they 1086 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 2: don't do it, tonight then you'll miss the window on. 1087 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 2: It BUT i want to hear what they have to, 1088 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 2: say especially Like shaq And, chuck because those guys both 1089 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 2: scored had massive scoring games real. QUICK i know we 1090 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 2: got to run up on. 1091 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 4: It why don't we hit the arrest of it on 1092 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 4: the back. 1093 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 2: HALF i just was going to say, this one of 1094 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 2: the most impressive scoring feats of all time Was clay 1095 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,800 Speaker 2: scoring sixty in twenty nine minutes and not playing the Fourth, 1096 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 2: yeah and on how many shots he had scored sixty 1097 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 2: points on twenty and twenty nine minutes of floor time 1098 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 2: and did not play in the. Fourth do you remember 1099 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 2: how many shots it was that? GAME i want to 1100 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 2: say you had like fifteen. Threes it was not many. Shots, 1101 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 2: yeah you can look that up and we'll continue around 1102 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 2: the Sports worl'll keep you update on everything with the 1103 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 2: official league, year which is now. Underway you listen To 1104 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns daily were presented by ballely bete official sportsmanning 1105 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: Partner Cleveland. 1106 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 1: Browns you're listening To Cleveland Browns daily on eight FIFTY Espn, 1107 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: cleveland presented by bally bet Sports, book an official sports 1108 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 1: betting partner of Your Cleveland. 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All what 1117 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 2: it affects is what happened yesterday In baltimore with the 1118 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 2: rescinding of The Max crosby trade and then the transition 1119 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 2: trade that happened after, it and it creates this. Time 1120 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 2: we've never had this happen before THAT i can think. 1121 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 2: Of there might be you'd have to talk to like 1122 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 2: A Peter king or somebody like that who's been around 1123 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 2: the league for forty, years who could tell you if 1124 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 2: there's been anything like this before where you have a 1125 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 2: deal that's, consummated agreed to and then all of a 1126 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 2: sudden rescinded at the last. MINUTE i can't recall anything like. 1127 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 2: IT i remember it in the in THE. NBA i 1128 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 2: remember the When David stern was running The New Orleans. 1129 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 2: Hornets they had Traded Chris paul to The, lakers And 1130 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 2: David stern was, like, No we're not having. That. Nope 1131 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 2: now the give back at that time was pretty good For. 1132 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 2: Paul it was Lamar odom And Andrew bynham of memory. 1133 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 2: Serves and The lakers do not win the two championships 1134 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 2: they win after they Acquired Powle gasol if they don't 1135 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 2: have bid them and otum because a big part of 1136 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 2: their ability to beat The celtics was they Had bynham 1137 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: Gasol otum all six' ten or Bigger from, They're huge so, 1138 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 2: you know it's one of those THINGS where i, don't 1139 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 2: know maybe it ended up. Working out obviously ended up 1140 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: working out just fine For, the lakers But then paul 1141 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 2: ended up being traded To. The clippers was the deal 1142 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 2: that he ended up getting. Traded to but that's the 1143 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 2: ONLY time i could think of this in professional sports was. 1144 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 3: That, one yeah a couple of things coming Out of 1145 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 3: minnesota right now that they've Released Both javon Hargrave And. 1146 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 3: Jonathan Allen jonathan allen was for a time one of 1147 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 3: the best interior defensive linemen IN, the NFL and i 1148 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 3: wonder if that's a move that if that peaks any interest. 1149 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 3: Around here hargrave has struggled, of Late But, jonathan allen 1150 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 3: Two time pro bowler last couple, of seasons not as 1151 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 3: good as, his peak which was twenty one to, twenty 1152 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 3: three but certainly still serviceable on the interior of a. 1153 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 3: Defensive line so. 1154 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely the cardinals make it official with a thank You To. 1155 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 2: Kyler murray that happened right at, four o'clock so he 1156 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 2: Has Released. Albert breer, with this with the Release Of, 1157 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 2: kyler murray just three of the twenty nine first round 1158 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 2: quarterbacks tracted in the second decade of this millennium soy 1159 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 2: ten to twenty nineteen remained with the teams that. Took, Them, 1160 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 2: mahomes Allen. And lamar. That's it that's. THE list i 1161 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 2: do think that that is one of the one of 1162 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 2: the big changes philosophically IN the nfl that happened when 1163 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: they stopped with the guaranteed massive Contracts with bradford and. 1164 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 2: THOSE guys I think sam was the. Last one stafford 1165 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 2: had one of Those. After bradford when that, went away 1166 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 2: it become much more easy for you to get off 1167 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: of a. Quarterback early you didn't have to stick around 1168 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 2: with four years, With them so we saw a lot 1169 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 2: more like Two and done's one and done in the 1170 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 2: Case Of, josh rosen in the Case of oh it 1171 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 2: was pretty much one and it wasn't it one and 1172 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 2: done with the kid With, The Jets. Zach WILSON wilson 1173 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 2: i think he had more than one. Year, THERE no 1174 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 2: i know he was, there longer but they Pivoted to 1175 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 2: rogers quickly was that in his, second year his third 1176 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: year when they Pivoted to rogers With the, jets hold 1177 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: so They drafted darnald, two overall then They drafted wilson. 1178 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 2: Two overall wilson was drafted in. Twenty one he had three, 1179 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 2: seasons there and then they Brought in rogers in twenty. 1180 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 2: Twenty Three so rogers got brought in in his what 1181 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 2: would have been his, third season so he got two 1182 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 2: seasons and then they Pivoted. To rogers so, you know 1183 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 2: that's one of the massive changes that has happened philosophical 1184 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 2: in the league in the last ten or. Fifteen, years 1185 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 2: yeah do you are you surprised there hasn't been Anything? 1186 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: On Kyler so schefter. 1187 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 3: Tweeted out a few minutes ago that all signs point 1188 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,919 Speaker 3: to him Going, to minnesota And That, josh weinfuss who've 1189 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 3: had on the show many times who Covers, the cardinals 1190 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 3: said that both O'Connell And kevin stefanski did a ton 1191 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 3: of Work. 1192 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 2: On kyler now. 1193 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 3: Were the report was That the falcons Were, signing tua 1194 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 3: so you CAN take i don't know if that necessarily 1195 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 3: means anything about The work, kevin's fancy but, they were 1196 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 3: they were looking. At It the browns have announced their 1197 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 3: trade That Brings titus, howard HERE and i can, say. 1198 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 2: That we can. 1199 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 3: CONFIRM that i Can Confirm i've i've Spoken With, titus 1200 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 3: howard lovely. Young man look forward to seeing you guys 1201 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 3: get a chance to check. That out but the trade. 1202 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 3: Is official bolstering the. Front lines we've agreed to Trade For. 1203 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 3: Titus Howard the browns have posted. 1204 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 2: There's a quote in the Story From, titus Howard and 1205 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,479 Speaker 2: i'm excited for a, fresh start being in a city 1206 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 2: with such a love, for football and just excited to 1207 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 2: get here and make, an impact especially on the, offensive 1208 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: line To, Give, schadeur deshaun all these quarterback as much 1209 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 2: time as possible to make an impact every day and win. 1210 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 2: Some games so that is the Quote From, titus howard 1211 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,439 Speaker 2: who is now officially in. The folds He knows. 1212 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 3: Deshan well they were friends on the field off, the 1213 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 3: field back when It Was titus Howard And laramie tunsel 1214 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 3: were the Tackles For shaun watson twenty nineteen and twenty Twenty. 1215 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 2: In houston Where does. Cousins land he's officially, Out too. 1216 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 3: So people are saying that he is the backup option 1217 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 3: For the Steelers. 1218 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 2: If aaron rodgers. Falls through what About the Steelers? For, 1219 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Kyler well kyler wouldn't, Want that he doesn't want to 1220 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 2: play in the ELEMENTS. 1221 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 3: Yet i have not heard much about that or seen much. 1222 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 3: ABOUT that i, Should, say yeah. 1223 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: It feels, to me based on the type of players 1224 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 2: That the steelers were, bringing in that they're working under 1225 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 2: the Assumption that rogers will. 1226 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 5: Be back. 1227 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 2: That's what it seems, to. Me, Totally, Yeah yeah so 1228 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Then a. Cousin's landing THE one i floated Yesterday Was 1229 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 2: kansas city start There until mahomes. Comes Back kansas city's 1230 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: all in as. 1231 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 5: CAN be. 1232 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 2: I mentioned this to you guys in. THE break i 1233 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 2: do think we are headed for because of how good 1234 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 2: the twenty seven. DRAFT is, i think or we believe 1235 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 2: the twenty seven draft. Will be We Know jeremiah smith's in. 1236 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 2: That draft, Everything else we'll see how it. Shakes OUT 1237 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 2: but i do think that you will see a league, 1238 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 2: next year which is something the league has rarely been 1239 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 2: really haves and. Have NOTS and i think the middle 1240 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 2: class will be incredibly shrunk next year in, the league 1241 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 2: and you will get to a point during some of 1242 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 2: these seasons some of the season, next year where if 1243 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 2: you're one of these teams, that's struggling things just, aren't 1244 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 2: working you kind of just take an off ramp. To 1245 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 2: that that's easier said, than done, of course because of 1246 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,919 Speaker 2: the physicality of football is what. It is but don't 1247 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 2: necessarily put your best. Foot forward because that draft in 1248 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven. Is crazy it. 1249 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 4: Is crazy thirteen team we were talking. About it thirteen 1250 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 4: teams had losing records last year IN. The, NFL yeah 1251 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 4: i would think that might even go up a. 1252 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 2: LITTLE bit i think. IT will i think, it WILL 1253 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 2: and i also think so of, the thirteen do you 1254 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 2: have it? UP here i do, Right now i've got a. 1255 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Right here how many were at least five games under five, hundred, one, two, three, four, five, six, 1256 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: seven eight eight? Of, them, no, Nine Nine new orleans 1257 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 2: nine teams were five games or more under five hundred LAST, year's, 1258 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 2: ok yeah We're picking we're five and twelve and we're. Picking, 1259 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 2: sixth YEAH so i think YOU'LL be i think that number. 1260 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 2: GETS bigger i think that you will see a lot of, 1261 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 2: foign thirteen three And Fourteen's. 1262 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 3: Las vegas which was A team i mentioned expected to 1263 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 3: have Interest In. Kirk cousins many people compared this Is 1264 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 3: per diana whos. Seen hoo many people To compare Mendoza To, 1265 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 3: Kirk cousins and you Could See tom, brady, thinking hey 1266 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 3: this is a pretty good mentor for our quarterback. 1267 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 2: Well personality they're the, Same human THAT'S what. I, mean 1268 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 2: like if you've heard, the talk he sounds Exactly like 1269 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 2: cousins On The quarterback Show, on netflix sounds exactly. 1270 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 6: Like. 1271 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 2: Him yeah, so yeah games, are similar all. Of, it 1272 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 2: yeah so that's a weird Spot for brady continues to 1273 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 2: be a very. Weird spot still am shocked that, it's 1274 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 2: happening because all the reporting out there Suggests that brady's 1275 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 2: pulling the strings on a lot of What the raiders, 1276 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 2: are doing and yet he's he's Still doing. Fox, games 1277 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 2: like if you're him and you're this invested In, the 1278 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 2: raiders how are you calling games On? A sunday and by, 1279 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 2: the way he got a lot better near two than 1280 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: he was in. Year, ONE yeah i thought he's really 1281 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 2: Good last he. 1282 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 5: Was very good. 1283 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 3: Last year by, the way what if he's Doing a 1284 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 3: ravens game and he truly feels That the. Ravens face then. 1285 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 2: He's going to Do a. Ravens. Game yeah by, the 1286 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 2: way if, you're curious Do the ravens Play the raiders? 1287 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 2: Next year they. Do not they do not do in. Two, 1288 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 2: years no in twenty, Twenty Seven trey hendrickson will Play the. 1289 01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 2: Bengals twice as you know. 1290 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 4: With, this note with the Release Of, kyler murray just 1291 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 4: three three of the twenty nine first round quarterbacks drafted 1292 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 4: in the second decade of this millennium remain with the 1293 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 4: teams that. Took them, You, Know Mahomes. Alan jackson you 1294 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 4: know that's an. 1295 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 2: Incredible fact it was even more credible five minutes AGO 1296 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 2: when i. Said it i'm sorry it was. Too easy 1297 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 2: i'm sorry it was. Too easy you give him hell all. 1298 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 2: The time it was just it Was on it was 1299 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 2: on a t was on. 1300 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 4: A tree we had the. AIR conditioning i, got up. 1301 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 4: Walked away it's about five degrees. In here but when 1302 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 4: it's NOT. 1303 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 2: And i, love you it was just. A layup it 1304 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 2: was sitting there and it was it just, was yeah 1305 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 2: it was the. Air, conditioning, no no this is, on 1306 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 2: me this. 1307 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 5: Is clear. 1308 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 2: Walked away it was just. TOO easy i wanted to 1309 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 2: let you walk all the. WAY through i. 1310 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 4: Love it you did would have been had you showed 1311 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 4: him the camera of ME because i was invested in 1312 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 4: whatever you were about to drive up? What knowledge and 1313 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 4: it was, a, hey dummy how about you pay attention 1314 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 4: to the Show, your. 1315 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 2: God he's got to follow up to that something that 1316 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 2: was a really good NOTE when i shared it eight. 1317 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 2: Minutes ago there, you go. 1318 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 4: Good news average listening times only three and a. 1319 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 2: Half minutes you're bringing it back to. The people did 1320 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 2: you share the? 1321 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 3: Other note this the fields in Eight field yates note 1322 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 3: about quarterbacks taking number? 1323 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 2: One, OVERALL no i. Did not i'm not sharing it. 1324 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 2: Any More, Notes Today. 1325 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 3: Tyler murray's official release By the cardinals extended an. Unusual 1326 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,440 Speaker 3: streak he is the seventh straight quarterback taken first overall 1327 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 3: that was not with his original franchise past the age. 1328 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 3: Of Thirty matt stafford was thirty three when he was officially. 1329 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 2: Traded By the lions Of. 1330 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 3: The rams seven straight number one overall quarterbacks have not 1331 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 3: been with the team drafted by the age. Of, thirty 1332 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 3: now the ONE who i think has a chance to 1333 01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 3: snap that Streak Is trevor Lawrence. 1334 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 2: And Joe, Burrow yeah burrow will get there because he's. 1335 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Twenty Nine, Burrow, Lawrence Right burrow lawrence will both. Get 1336 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 2: there lawrence was a year Ahead, of, no same no, Year. 1337 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 3: Ahead yeah Lawrence, then, burrow, right, no, NO no i Think 1338 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 3: it Borrow. 1339 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 2: Then, lawrence Okay what baker they Played? Then kyler Who? Played, 1340 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 2: clemson yes It went Burrow. Then lawrence So, Went, Baker, Kyler. 1341 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 2: BURROW lawrence i believe that to. Be, true, yeah yeah 1342 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 2: because they played the gabl They beat clemson In The national. 1343 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 2: Championship game was on. 1344 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,920 Speaker 3: That team we Need, Young gabriel we Need young gabriel 1345 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 3: here is like our You. 1346 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 2: YOUNG gabriel i want him to become on. Our show 1347 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 2: is that like the schwab is that was? His, name 1348 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 2: yeah well in the origin and The very schwab the 1349 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 2: very BEGINNING of pti that when they had, Stat, boy 1350 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 2: yeah like that was. His, job yeah and then he 1351 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 2: be just like, someone else but like he was somebody 1352 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 2: that would like correct the mistakes in those type. Of things, 1353 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 2: so yeah you just give. 1354 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 3: Us support and plus, you know the day that he 1355 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 3: was in here with us really. REALLY fun i do 1356 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 3: think in the, new place we will need LIKE a 1357 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 3: tv that has like running tickers of stuff That young 1358 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 3: gabriel thinks we. 1359 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Should see i'm sure we have. Not already i'm sure 1360 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 2: we can make. That Adjustment, young gabriel turn around and. 1361 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 2: Acknowledge us there is turn around and. 1362 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 4: Acknowledge me i'm going to turn my back to the 1363 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 4: camera so That, the Yeah, young gabriel. 1364 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 2: There, he, is there. HE is i. LIKE that i 1365 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 2: like that. A, lot Yeah the colts give the people what. They. 1366 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 2: Want gibbe by, the Way the colts could have done 1367 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 2: the same Thing With. Daniel jones they could have rescinded 1368 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 2: that if they. Wanted to. They didn't so it's two years. 1369 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 2: Eighty eight, good lord. It's crazy can go up to 1370 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and, fifty, million guaranteed it's not even to 1371 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,920 Speaker 2: be healthy to start. The year that's. Crazy town. 1372 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 4: He's he ruptured, His achilles so let's go ahead and 1373 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 4: give him a contract where he can get up to. Eighty, 1374 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 4: million actually when you can get up to one, hundred million. 1375 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 3: It's, craziness so by, the way my mood diabat just 1376 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 3: to jump fiddle fast was not given a restricted free. 1377 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 3: AGENT tender i think that is a big that is 1378 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 3: a big surprise, to me given that the only guy 1379 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,200 Speaker 3: that's really played in the system at all at linebacker 1380 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 3: For The cleveland Browns Is. Carson Swesterner Now quincy williams 1381 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 3: has he's just coming to the. Team now but, My 1382 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 3: mood diabata has been a pretty solid player for you 1383 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 3: the last. Three years and really last year was he's 1384 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 3: YOUR starting, sam linebacker who is your number. Three linebacker 1385 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 3: you could have tendered him. For nothing you could have 1386 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 3: given him the, you know the round that he was drafted, 1387 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 3: in tender which, was undrafted would have cost him. Very 1388 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,639 Speaker 3: little it's the guy who over the last two years 1389 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 3: has one hundred and, nineteen tackles three passes defense to, 1390 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 3: force fumble two, fumble recoveries eight tackles for. 1391 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 2: A loss like, he's young. He's physical that's that's a shock. 1392 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:53,640 Speaker 5: To me. 1393 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 3: That's surprising that is a shock that one unless there's 1394 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 3: some move another move coming at Line that i'm not, 1395 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 3: aware of that is that is very surprising. 1396 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 2: To, me, YEAH yeah i. WOULD agree, I mean I just. 1397 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 2: I count i just assumed it'd be Him and SWEESTGER 1398 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 2: and i thought he would Be. 1399 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 3: THE sam i think we're gonna Live With quincy williams 1400 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 3: and sweestener as your. Top two but he would be 1401 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,839 Speaker 3: the guy that comes in and. Runs situations he's comfortable 1402 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 3: to line. OF scrimmage i thought he's. Gotten better that's 1403 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 3: a real surprise because that doesn't that doesn't cost. Yet, anything, 1404 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 3: no no. 1405 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 2: IT doesn't nfl hold unrestricted free. Agent tenders so. 1406 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 3: If you Give So ronnie hickman got a second, round 1407 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 3: tender which is five point eight, million dollars and if 1408 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 3: somebody signs him to a contract and, he leaves he 1409 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 3: gets second. Round pack So the browns obviously thought that 1410 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 3: he was going to get quite a bit. Of that 1411 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,800 Speaker 3: the original round tender is, one year three point, six 1412 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 3: million so they there's no draft compensation because he, was 1413 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,599 Speaker 3: there but you have the opportunity to keep him there now. 1414 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 3: Free agent maybe, They, say okay we don't want to pay, 1415 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 3: three million but we're gonna bring it back at one and. 1416 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 2: A half maybe that's the. 1417 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 3: Thought, process yeah but that's a little bit Of a 1418 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 3: that was a surprise to me because nothing's guaranteed in 1419 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 3: that in. Those tenders, you, can no. You can if 1420 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 3: they don't make the, football team they'll make. 1421 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 2: The, Team, no no not, at all, All right ceciliano coming. 1422 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 2: Up next we'll have a lot to discuss. With him 1423 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 2: you're Listening To Cleveland browns daily presented By, bally bet 1424 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 2: official sports Winning Partner. Cleveland browns. 1425 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,719 Speaker 1: You're Listening To Cleveland browns daily on EIGHT Fifty espn 1426 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,599 Speaker 1: cleveland presented By Bally Bet, sports book an official sports. 1427 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Betting partner if You Are, cleveland browns please. 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Beverly hills, 1437 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 2: oh great that's. 1438 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 5: Still open. 1439 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 2: It, IS yes i ate. THERE once i ate there 1440 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 2: once my buddy and twenty years ago and at the 1441 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 2: table next to, my wife my, then FIANCE and i 1442 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 2: was none Other than. Beverly, D'Angelo oh what you. 1443 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 6: Would say By, doctor quinn medicine woman or something, Like, 1444 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 6: that well. 1445 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 2: That would be. The great i'd be the Great great seymour. Of, 1446 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 2: course yeah no motor boat through. Her name, come on 1447 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 2: you can't Just, buy yeah she deserves. PROPER billion i 1448 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 2: ate there the DAY after i Played at la uh 1449 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 2: or one on that same trip when, We played when 1450 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,480 Speaker 2: we were out there, and played you had the quintessential 1451 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,560 Speaker 2: mister l a big. Baller experience lacc To. 1452 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 3: Mister, chow yeah and then went the little little little 1453 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,560 Speaker 3: mastros at the End with laurie ran into the playmaker 1454 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 3: and he cut the famous promo. 1455 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,600 Speaker 5: THIS story i, love it a. Great one it's a 1456 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 5: great at. 1457 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 2: The, time yeah we'll share. Those dollars. We, will hey 1458 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 2: you've been around this league for a. Long, time uh 1459 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 2: what if anything will the league do in regard to 1460 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 2: what happened Uh with baltimore Yesterday And. Max. 1461 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 6: CROSBY nothing i don't think. THEY will i don't think they'll. 1462 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 6: Do anything the whole thing's. A mess i heard your 1463 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 6: opening segment and been talking to people around the league 1464 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 6: ever since the, News broke and when the news, broke 1465 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 6: yesterday like you think people have, Been hacked like there's 1466 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,800 Speaker 6: no way this is. Actually true but but. It's true 1467 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 6: there's nothing they can, really, do guys because all trades 1468 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,680 Speaker 6: are pending A physical let's let's play make. Belief here 1469 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 6: let's say that when you guys were Talking about, odell 1470 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 6: earlier When the odell trade, went down was it twenty 1471 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 6: nineteen twenty, twenty yea. It was and Let's Say kevin 1472 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 6: zeitler Got To east rutherford And the, giants went, oh 1473 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 6: boy that guy has no acl? Deals off what would? 1474 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,560 Speaker 6: Have happened what would. Have happened Let's Say david montgomery 1475 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 6: shows up Tomorrow in houston, or today hopefully he's there 1476 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 6: now that deal is going to be official Between the 1477 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,799 Speaker 6: lions And, the Texans and houston goes. 1478 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 5: Like, wow like? 1479 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:29,360 Speaker 6: Whoof that that guy has has. No knees this is 1480 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 6: not what we thought we were buying. Deals off it's 1481 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 6: not nearly as significant As The max. 1482 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:35,679 Speaker 5: Crosby. 1483 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:42,560 Speaker 2: Trade surprises it would, be surprises, no surprise physicals. 1484 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 6: Are necessary what makes this one so mind boggling is 1485 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,920 Speaker 6: the is the significance of, the deal the two first. 1486 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 6: Round picks how it was announced two days really or 1487 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 6: three days before the alleged opening of the window for 1488 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,200 Speaker 6: negotiations for real business To be that's what makes it. 1489 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 5: So surprising if there's anything they could, do IT so 1490 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 5: i just talk it. 1491 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 6: Through here maybe they tell teams that if you have, 1492 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 6: these things you have to have these PHYSICALS within x 1493 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 6: numbers OF hours x number of hours after these deals get, 1494 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 6: agreed to and that these things can't go on for 1495 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 6: four days and then figured out twelve hours before the league. Year, 1496 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 6: begins yes because that's what really screws, if this if 1497 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 6: this Happened on, saturday morning we'd look at it a, 1498 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 6: lot differently, Of course, BUT yes i think the analogy 1499 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,719 Speaker 6: with buying, A, House yeah, i'm sorry like the analogy 1500 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 6: about buying a house where you have contingencies. In there 1501 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 6: you do the walkthrough and then the, inspector goes oh, 1502 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 6: my god like you need to redo all the pipes in. This, 1503 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 6: house well then you go back to the seller, AND 1504 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 6: hey I want i want some. Money back it's going 1505 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 6: to COST me x number dollars to do. THESE repairs 1506 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 6: i need some money back in. This deal and if 1507 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 6: you can't agree, to deal then the whole thing falls 1508 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 6: through and the house is back on. 1509 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 5: The market it is. Somewhat similar it's just the timing 1510 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 5: of this was. 1511 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 3: AWFUL because i just don't believe that they didn't have 1512 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,600 Speaker 3: any Any of they had all the they'd agreeted, this 1513 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,559 Speaker 3: deal not, being, like, oh blindly. Willy nilly i'm sure 1514 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 3: they were. Shown scans i'm sure they had all the 1515 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 3: information that they wanted, To HAVE and i think that 1516 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 3: as the things Progressed And trey hendrickson the reports were 1517 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 3: coming out that he was ten million dollars off of 1518 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 3: what teams were, offering him, They, said hey we just 1519 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,640 Speaker 3: got plundered in. Free agency why don't we keep our 1520 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 3: two ones and Just Sign. Trey, hendrickson oh we'll just 1521 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 3: say his knee's. Not ready everybody knew his knee wasn't 1522 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 3: gonna be ready. 1523 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 6: RIGHT now i don't say it's just one or. THE 1524 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 6: other i think that's where we. DON'T agree i don't 1525 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 6: think it's one or. THE other i don't THINK it's 1526 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 6: i think it's a combination. Of both does the, fact, 1527 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 6: that yeah just the Fact That trey hendrickson was out 1528 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 6: there and his price tag. 1529 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 2: Was lower let me ask you, this Question if trey 1530 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 2: hendricks Had If trey hendrickson had already been announced to 1531 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 2: sign With. The colts for Whatever Is Max Trosby, RAVEN. 1532 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,640 Speaker 5: Yeah i don't know. THE answer i think they. 1533 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 6: Might exactly i'm not. Making excusees, believe me you guys 1534 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 6: don't be. WELL enough i am not here to make 1535 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 6: excuses For. THE ravens i think both teams look are 1536 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,680 Speaker 6: in really. Bad spots baltimore had nine free agents walk out. 1537 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 6: The Door now i'm not suggesting that they were going 1538 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 6: to resign all night, at, all right but nine of 1539 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 6: their guys were out, the door likely because they thought 1540 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 6: they had to commit sixty million Dollars To. Trey Hendrickson 1541 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 6: the raiders went out and spent all. This money cash 1542 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 6: and cap were. Quite, Different yes raider fans who went 1543 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 6: after me on, Social, media Yes the raiders can still 1544 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 6: do this on. Their, cap absolutely the cap. Still works 1545 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,759 Speaker 6: but there's an issue. Of cash that was sixty million 1546 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 6: cash that they thought they were not Giving The. Max 1547 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,600 Speaker 6: crosby so. THEY'RE bad, i mean everybody comes out the. 1548 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,600 Speaker 6: Negative here it's not as If the ravens like magically 1549 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 6: won because they have their draft picks and now They Have. 1550 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 6: Trey hendrickson they lost a lot of their own free 1551 01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,000 Speaker 6: agents here. 1552 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,679 Speaker 5: As well so, every ey. 1553 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 2: What is who they lost in free agency have to do? 1554 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:10,920 Speaker 6: With this i'm just, Saying sure but that has nothing 1555 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 6: to Do With, max crosby Is what, i'm, SAYING right 1556 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 6: i mean that them losing nine free agents has nothing 1557 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 6: to do with them Rescinding the. 1558 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 2: Crosby deal that's a separate day, we. Need, Right yeah, 1559 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:21,920 Speaker 2: SO like i. 1560 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 5: Guess me just look at the big, Picture here like. 1561 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 2: If they Don't Sign trey, HENDRICKSON today i have. No 1562 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,640 Speaker 2: issue why what? 1563 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 5: Is that what does that matter? 1564 01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 2: With ANYTHING because i think it's the cause. And, effect 1565 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,639 Speaker 2: okay what it did is it cost a butterfly effect 1566 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Around the league of all sorts of people going about. 1567 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 2: Their BUSINESS and i don't believe for, one, second buddy 1568 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,400 Speaker 2: that they Didn't Know max crosby would fail any physical 1569 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 2: that you put him through at. 1570 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 6: This, POINT yeah i don't buy that fail any, physical well, 1571 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 6: of course but. 1572 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 2: You deal like this and then the next the next 1573 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 2: morning have this deal. Lined up we Know that crosby 1574 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 2: was doing the, physical yesterday and we Know That, trey 1575 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 2: hendrickson they were Negotiating with hendrickson. Yes today all of 1576 01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 2: those things were happening at the, Same TIME so i 1577 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 2: think these are. Absolutely linked they could. 1578 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 6: Be linked but that doesn't Mean That max crosby doesn't 1579 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 6: have Awful KNEE like i. Don't, know yes he's not 1580 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,680 Speaker 6: gonna right now he can't. Play football everybody knew right 1581 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 6: now he couldn't. Play, Football yes i'm not suggesting That 1582 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 6: the ravens did or didn't lely intentionally flunk about A physical. 1583 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 2: I have i'm not saying THE intention i. Funked him 1584 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 2: i'm saying he flunked a physical and they knew. He, 1585 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 2: would yeah like what you guys. 1586 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 6: Were saying earlier that they should be forbidden From Sighting 1587 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,479 Speaker 6: trey hendrickson because they flunked him on. 1588 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 5: The physical it is. 1589 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,799 Speaker 6: ABSOLUTELY ridiculous i think that is with all, Due, respect 1590 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,840 Speaker 6: no that there's no way h that's. 1591 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,600 Speaker 5: Gonna Happen and. 1592 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 2: I'm Not diana russini Is On The Damn pack show saying, 1593 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,599 Speaker 2: there's quote there's one hundred percent shadiness going on right 1594 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 2: now On the ravens backing out Of. 1595 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 5: The mexicans I'M not. 1596 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 6: I don't think, of shadiness but to suggest that they 1597 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 6: can no longer do business because their doctors did or 1598 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 6: didn't like the. 1599 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 5: Risk mitigation that's not. 1600 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,439 Speaker 2: What happens that's not. What happened that's, what happened. Didn't 1601 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 2: happen do you believe that's. WHAT happened i don't know. What, 1602 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 2: happened well then why are you? Saying definitively why. 1603 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 5: Are you saying definitively that. 1604 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:23,000 Speaker 2: It did I'M saying i, don't know but you're saying it's. 1605 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 2: PRETTY obvious i think it Feels pretty there are people 1606 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 2: that are more PLUGGED than i am that have Said 1607 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 2: the ravens had all the information when they agreed to 1608 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 2: send two first round picks for me and agree to. 1609 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:32,599 Speaker 2: That deal. 1610 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 5: I'M not i can't say this. 1611 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 6: MORE definitively i am not in any way apologizing For. 1612 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,760 Speaker 5: The ravens are? You? 1613 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 6: Really, no, no, no no you're you guys are putting 1614 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:50,800 Speaker 6: words in. My mouth don't. Even start but you can't 1615 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,240 Speaker 6: even think it's possible that when they had their doctors look, 1616 01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 6: at it, they went, holy bleep this guy's only got 1617 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 6: ten games left on. 1618 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 5: That, knee nope, yes SEE then i think you're Being. 1619 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:13,599 Speaker 2: Information, they talked why did they sit? On it THAT'S 1620 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:14,799 Speaker 2: what i Understand because. 1621 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 5: I'll get in the building. Until yesterday there's a Difference 1622 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,000 Speaker 5: any i'll. Give it give you a, perfect example a. 1623 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 6: Perfect example so, YEARS ago i had a, bad, neck 1624 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,160 Speaker 6: okay and it was suggested to ME that i needed 1625 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 6: a double level, anterior fusion which is as every bit 1626 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,640 Speaker 6: awful as. IT sounds i went To, doctor watkins the 1627 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 6: fame doctor that does everyone's neck and spine surgery IN. 1628 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 6: The Nfl doctor watkins looked at and, Is, like eah 1629 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,639 Speaker 6: let's do an epidural and let's give you. Physical therapy 1630 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,559 Speaker 6: you don't. Need surgery let's try to. AVOID it, i, Said, 1631 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 6: great doc how did my? Injury happen HE goes i have. 1632 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 6: No idea it could have, been degenerative it could have been. 1633 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 6: AN injury i have. No idea it is impossible for 1634 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 6: me to know how this. Injury happened this is the 1635 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 6: most famed neck and spine surgery IN the nfl and, 1636 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:07,680 Speaker 6: all sports right his his office is. A MUSEUM so 1637 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 6: i go to the, pain guy who's gonna. 1638 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 2: Give you almost an orange jacket. 1639 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 6: PIN listen i go to the epidural guy that he recommended. 1640 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 5: Me for he looks at THE same. 1641 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 6: Mri and goes man you had a bad injury about a, Year, 1642 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 6: ago like that's. 1643 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 5: Not degenerative, he, goes, no no you had a. Bad injury? 1644 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 6: WHAT happened, I, SAID oh i Fell in ecuador and, he, goes, 1645 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,639 Speaker 6: oh yeah that's what. That is so two different doctors 1646 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 6: looked at The Same mr eyes and gad two entirely 1647 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,680 Speaker 6: different responses. To it it is not out Of the 1648 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 6: roman possibility that. 1649 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:45,639 Speaker 2: THE raven i think we all. Get that ye saw 1650 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 2: it in. 1651 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,160 Speaker 5: Person, and, went, oh no. 1652 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,240 Speaker 6: No way i'm not. Defending, them guys you're putting words in. 1653 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 6: My mouth but there's nothing you can do. About it, 1654 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,760 Speaker 6: YOU know i, don't know, you know you Tell. The 1655 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 6: browns that Is how god in the building that if 1656 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,719 Speaker 6: they looked at, his injury whatever injury it was from a, year. 1657 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 3: Ago which would have been out, OF nowhere a, don't 1658 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,360 Speaker 3: Nowhere the browns would would have requested his medical documents 1659 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 3: and talked To his all medicals are. 1660 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,960 Speaker 6: Exchanged beforehand that doesn't mean that a doctor can't see 1661 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,560 Speaker 6: the patient in person and, go wow this is a 1662 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 6: lot WORSE than. 1663 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:20,840 Speaker 5: I thought ON. 1664 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 2: The mri MY what i would like to? 1665 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,320 Speaker 3: Have happened THIS what i would like to have happened 1666 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 3: Is Because KYLE brand i think was spot on. ABOUT 1667 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 3: this i WOULD like i wish we could have every 1668 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 3: team's doctors IN the nfl go ahead and take a 1669 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,680 Speaker 3: Look At max crosby and find out who would have 1670 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 3: approved him, or not regardless of. THE compensation i think 1671 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 3: if the trade was because let's not forget it's a 1672 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 3: Scheme That david ajabo coming off of a torn achilles 1673 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,759 Speaker 3: in the, SECOND round i think they got. 1674 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,240 Speaker 2: Cold FEET and i think they were able To Get. 1675 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 5: Trey hendrickson i'm sure they got cold feet after they saw. 1676 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 2: THE injury i don't think it has anything to do 1677 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:57,080 Speaker 2: with that. 1678 01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,479 Speaker 3: AT all i think they need the injury because it 1679 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,600 Speaker 3: would Have been think about how this trade was projected in, 1680 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 3: the media and there wasn't Anything. In baltimore, it's like 1681 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,720 Speaker 3: hold on, a, second now we Need, to yeah it 1682 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 3: says we're trading, two ones but we need to, really see, 1683 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 3: you know before people love with, this story we need 1684 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 3: we need To See. Max crosby and of course that's, 1685 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,679 Speaker 3: a fact but we know They Know max. Crosby situation 1686 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 3: you're talking about situations where there would have been no 1687 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,200 Speaker 3: prior knowledge of. A situation this is one where they. 1688 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Knew it they. 1689 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 3: Got information it's. Been said people are reporting that they 1690 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,599 Speaker 3: have gotten all, the scans they had all. The information 1691 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,839 Speaker 3: they talked to a surgeon four days ago before agreed. 1692 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 2: To it they agreed, to it they Should have So 1693 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 2: what Chase And max crosby? 1694 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 3: Is Pissed max crosby does not believe that he should 1695 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 3: have been that this should have happened. 1696 01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:48,759 Speaker 2: At all. 1697 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 5: Why would he? 1698 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 2: Be happy you presented the case That the ravens. Will, 1699 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 2: present yeah that's what. 1700 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 3: You Did And trey hendrickson into to play, with me and. 1701 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,240 Speaker 2: That's why and this goes back to the start the 1702 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 2: show can do? About this this this goes back TO 1703 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,479 Speaker 2: what i said at the very start of, the show 1704 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 2: which there is nothing that anyone can do. About it 1705 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 2: you presented the case that they, will take which is 1706 01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,400 Speaker 2: if there is a brief, instance fired which IS why 1707 01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 2: i said at the top of, the show nothing is 1708 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,080 Speaker 2: going to come. Of this they're not going to take, 1709 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,479 Speaker 2: draft picks they're not going. To penalize, but Anyway what 1710 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,720 Speaker 2: i'm curious about is how DO the nfl make sure 1711 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,280 Speaker 2: this doesn't? Happen again because this is unique and that's 1712 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 2: no they can they can change? 1713 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,720 Speaker 6: The, calendar no you're you're you're wrong with, that too 1714 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,960 Speaker 6: what what what are you going? To do, Everyone, said 1715 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 6: okay the hell do? 1716 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:35,640 Speaker 2: You know i'm wrong about the? 1717 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 5: First thing because THE show i heard, everyone say, everyone, 1718 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:40,519 Speaker 5: say well. 1719 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 2: How do you do your start free. 1720 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 6: Agency on monday? At noon so you'd have to tampering over, The, 1721 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:46,240 Speaker 6: weekend like. 1722 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,679 Speaker 3: No tampering why is there tampering if you just agree 1723 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,200 Speaker 3: to deals or. 1724 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 6: You don't because you have to pass physicals one way or. 1725 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,840 Speaker 2: The other but that still comes they couldn't take the physical, until. 1726 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,000 Speaker 6: Today right, In, theory well under under the theory you 1727 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 6: guys were going with earlier in, many half well just 1728 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:05,280 Speaker 6: started at Noon. 1729 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:06,120 Speaker 5: On monday that's when. 1730 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 6: It, Begins okay so under, that theory then under, that 1731 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,480 Speaker 6: plan you are now flying guys across the country immediately 1732 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 6: to take. 1733 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 5: Their physicals so you're going to. 1734 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 6: Be tampering if you want them, done immediately then the 1735 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,400 Speaker 6: tampering has to be, done beforehand so there's still going to. 1736 01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,120 Speaker 5: Be tampering. There's tampering when. 1737 01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 2: There's, tamper anyway there's stuff going on at the combine that's, 1738 01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 2: not yes, Quote UNQUOTE so i mean that, stuff going. 1739 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 2: That's happening i'm, just saying when YOU have i don't 1740 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 2: think anything should be able to be announced and then 1741 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 2: there needs to be agreed. 1742 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,200 Speaker 3: With YOU earlier i thought that. Was good there needs 1743 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,600 Speaker 3: to be a reasonable time frame with which once you 1744 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,600 Speaker 3: announce something like this or it, gets out which is 1745 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,519 Speaker 3: that's all met? It out So like Ravens And, max 1746 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:45,200 Speaker 3: crosby was what? 1747 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,080 Speaker 2: Days ago seventy? TWO hours i Mean. 1748 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:49,760 Speaker 4: Night. 1749 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,920 Speaker 2: Friday, night yeah there's No reason Saturday or sunday have this. 1750 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:59,080 Speaker 2: Thing done but but of course that maybe it wasn't 1751 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,360 Speaker 2: necessary because didn't it didn't matter because it doesn't until. 1752 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:03,759 Speaker 2: It Did, Tell, hendrickson oh. 1753 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,559 Speaker 5: It's absolutely it. Absolutely matters are you? Kidding me? 1754 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,280 Speaker 2: They should of course. 1755 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,400 Speaker 3: It matters but we're saying that the timing, of it 1756 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,800 Speaker 3: they weren't worried. About it they weren't worried about it 1757 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,599 Speaker 3: because they didn't think they were going To Get. Trey 1758 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,640 Speaker 3: hendrickson that you could Have. 1759 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 2: Got frosby you could Have Got Max frock Crosby to 1760 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,240 Speaker 2: baltimore at. Any, point yes if. 1761 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 6: You're private, CONVENIENT timing, I guys i don't Like the 1762 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,639 Speaker 6: Ravens and i'm not Defending their you're the only People 1763 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,840 Speaker 6: that i've had this conversation with today that have Decided 1764 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:36,439 Speaker 6: that i'm somehow Defending. The ravens i've had this conversation on, 1765 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 6: the phone and one. 1766 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 2: Saying that, you Guys, the ravens that you presented the 1767 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 2: CASE that i would Present the RAVENS if I was 1768 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 2: BASHADI and i Was. The ravens that's THE case. 1769 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,800 Speaker 6: I represent the Fifth show i've, done today And Somehow 1770 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,479 Speaker 6: I'm i'm i'm like Getting somehow i'm coming out of 1771 01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,839 Speaker 6: this as Defending, the ravens calling him. 1772 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,200 Speaker 2: Did you order the Code Red? Ricky? Raven NO like. 1773 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 6: I don't i don't. Get it like you guys have 1774 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,439 Speaker 6: decided that. They HAVE and i THINK it's i think both. 1775 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:15,639 Speaker 6: ARE true i think both. Are true, it's yeah the whole. 1776 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 6: Thing stinks the whole. Thing Stinks the ravens have played a, 1777 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,600 Speaker 6: bit dirty and his knee is. 1778 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:27,680 Speaker 5: Probably awful all of that, Is TRUE. 1779 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,320 Speaker 3: But i don't think his knee is any more, awful, 1780 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 3: today oh, last night than it was four. 1781 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 2: Days ago and you. 1782 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,880 Speaker 6: Guys won't open your mind to at least the possibility 1783 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 6: that when they looked at. His knee they, went like, 1784 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,880 Speaker 6: oh man this guy's got it's a ticking. Time bomb 1785 01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:44,760 Speaker 6: he's got like two. 1786 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 3: Years, left well THAT'S why i think we need To 1787 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 3: have we need some independent arbiters to come in here 1788 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,840 Speaker 3: and give like a real, assessment here. 1789 01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:52,920 Speaker 5: So you want like an. 1790 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 2: Independent Medal kyle, brand said this Is What kyle, Brand 1791 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 2: Said and i'll JUST because i liked, his Argument so i'll. 1792 01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,599 Speaker 3: Use It and i'll say This is kyle brand Argument 1793 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,240 Speaker 3: that i'm going to pair it. To, you now What 1794 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,720 Speaker 3: If max crosby then goes and balls out this year For. 1795 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,680 Speaker 3: The raiders What If max frosby gets traded, somewhere else 1796 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,640 Speaker 3: their doctor sign, off on he goes out any balls for, 1797 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,400 Speaker 3: somebody else and it's pretty clear that he was fine 1798 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,760 Speaker 3: and in the course of, his recovery why Were the 1799 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,240 Speaker 3: ravens able to get out of? That deal if that 1800 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 3: ends up being. The, case now let's say his knee 1801 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 3: is trash and then we all. Ow apologies i'd be 1802 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,479 Speaker 3: the first one to come on here apologize To the 1803 01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 3: baltimore rate. 1804 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,920 Speaker 5: Until he passes THE physical i don't know how else to, 1805 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:25,639 Speaker 5: Say it. 1806 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,000 Speaker 3: But what if so you can't understand the hypothetical that 1807 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,360 Speaker 3: he's very well, this. 1808 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,559 Speaker 6: Year we'll talk about getting out of. A deal there 1809 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 6: there was no deal till that's like how that's how 1810 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,920 Speaker 6: trades have. Worked since if this. 1811 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 2: Happened in your fantasy football league with, the clowns the 1812 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 2: person that did this would be thrown out of. 1813 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 6: The league true, Or false i'll give you. Another example true, 1814 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,160 Speaker 6: or false are. Not talking i'm not making a fantasy. 1815 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,640 Speaker 6: Football analogy you guys are picking up kickers during the 1816 01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,120 Speaker 6: game at. Four o'clock at three O'clock, on sunday. 1817 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,360 Speaker 2: In one of one of the most reckless fantasy football 1818 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:04,479 Speaker 2: behaviors we go. 1819 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 6: To commercially you're and you're you're sending text getting angry 1820 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 6: about guys making special teams moves during The outrageous, pete's 1821 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,719 Speaker 6: sake for the Sake, of pete and who the Heck? 1822 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 5: Is pete. 1823 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,639 Speaker 6: Good question if a trade Is done week five happens 1824 01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,559 Speaker 6: every year and a guy, shows up the trade is Announced, 1825 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,040 Speaker 6: on monday guy shows Up, on wednesday and then it 1826 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 6: hits the transaction wire later that evening team. Failed physical 1827 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,320 Speaker 6: it's it's, No, different like what's. 1828 01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 3: THE again i just think that's a totally. Different situation 1829 01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,559 Speaker 3: but is but like like situation when. 1830 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 2: Somebody playing week with somebody playing week one. THROUGH four, 1831 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,800 Speaker 2: i mean and you're either playing football or. You're not 1832 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,360 Speaker 2: THERE has i feel like there's a little bit of 1833 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:47,959 Speaker 2: a better. 1834 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:51,599 Speaker 6: Sense of being A physical there has, to be because 1835 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,599 Speaker 6: there are everybody. Miss teams i'll tell you the other side. 1836 01:29:54,600 --> 01:30:00,120 Speaker 6: Of it there are countless teams that will trade you 1837 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 6: an injured player and try to get away. 1838 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,120 Speaker 2: With, it Yeah the ravens did it With JayR alexander sure. 1839 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 6: That, too no he. Wasn't injured he wanted, to Quit 1840 01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 6: wasn't it was that the issue had a. Bad knee 1841 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,479 Speaker 6: so there are teams that will try to trade you. Injured, 1842 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 6: players yeah without telling you. They're injured so you've got 1843 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,200 Speaker 6: to have A physical I'm not. 1844 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:25,559 Speaker 5: Crosby was he was. 1845 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:30,080 Speaker 2: Just fine everybody knows you sent us that great Article 1846 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,439 Speaker 2: From ian RAPPAPORT which i used those words in the, 1847 01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 2: same SENSE but i did that said they know that 1848 01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 2: he's not get passing. Of physicals Now the ravens knew 1849 01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:38,640 Speaker 2: that when they why would they agree to. 1850 01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:43,240 Speaker 6: THE trade i am stunned that they flunked. His physical to, Be, 1851 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,040 Speaker 6: clear yes there is also a possibility that they thought 1852 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 6: it's a ticking time bomb and it was worse than 1853 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 6: the documents. 1854 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,360 Speaker 5: They received then would. 1855 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,640 Speaker 2: You also acknowledge there's a possibility that they said we 1856 01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,880 Speaker 2: can get eighty Percent of crosby. 1857 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,519 Speaker 5: Said repeatedly it's not one or. THE other i. 1858 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 2: Love it that's why this. 1859 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 6: Is craziness that's why it's just like this black and. 1860 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,679 Speaker 6: White thing oh, get out we can get a. Cheaper 1861 01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,799 Speaker 6: one it could. Be both why can't it? Be Both 1862 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 6: bendini Lambert, At. 1863 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:20,040 Speaker 2: Locke siciliana if you brace a, pie chart there's more 1864 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:24,320 Speaker 2: than fifty percent of. That pie, The, idea hey we, 1865 01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,360 Speaker 2: gotta run enjoy. 1866 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,840 Speaker 5: Your weather think they're gonna, Gotta go we. 1867 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:28,200 Speaker 2: Gotta go. 1868 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,040 Speaker 5: That's, hysterical no we didn't. 1869 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,679 Speaker 2: Say that we said nothing's. Gonna happen nothing's. Gonna happen 1870 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,800 Speaker 2: we know that this is where the. Sports are your 1871 01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 2: weather's better. Than ours, enjoy, That buddy well like soon there, 1872 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,599 Speaker 2: he Goes. Mister siciliana we're. 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