1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of My Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland and this is Fitness Disrupted. I 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: say it every show. I love my job. I love 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: what I do. And when it comes to health and wellness, 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: it's not just about the studies, and it's not just 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: about exercise, and it's not just about nutrition. A huge, 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: enormous part of the equation is motivation. And you all 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: know that. How many people say to themselves, I just 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not motivated, and you can't find the motivation. 10 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: And we have excuses, We have our yeah butts, Yeah 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: but I don't have time. Yeah but I have this 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: ache or this pain. And that is exactly what today's 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: shows about. So that is one thing that I hope 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: that I know separates Fitness Disrupted from other shows, is 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: we we I don't just talk about one thing because 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: you can't get there just exercising or just going on 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: a diet, and motivation isn't enough. You've got to take 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: all of these things. And this is what I've learned 19 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: over the decades, is it's a little bit of all 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: of this stuff. Right. We need the motivation, we need 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: the education, we need the experience. We gotta take all 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: these things to the nutrition. And the amazing thing is 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: when you do those things, a little bit of all 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: of those things, it's sustainable. It doesn't change your day 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: to day enormously like going on a crash diet or 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: just trying to exercise seven days a week for ridiculously 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: long periods of time. You do some exercise, you change 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: your eating habits a little bit. You get that motivation 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: side down. You take all of these components that are 30 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: so crucial, that connect in unique ways, and that's where 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: success comes from. And I've said it many times before. 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: When they used to have fitness magazines, they're almost gone completely. 33 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: But the most important page for me in fitness magazines 34 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: wasn't the workouts. It was the success story to get 35 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: you motivated, to get you excited. And oftentimes may take 36 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: three fifteen different people, but but one of them just 37 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: you connect to resonates with you in a unique way. 38 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: And Sean Swarner, my guest, is one of those people 39 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: to talk about overcoming obstacles. You have to be kidding me. 40 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: And I'm fortunate to call him a friend. We met 41 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: years ago. I interviewed him on a show I had 42 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: years ago. We also raced together up the Empire State 43 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Building for cancer and then we actually appeared on TV together. 44 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: And his story is so compelling, I said to the interviewer, 45 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: like my story next to his, Uh, it's his is amazing. 46 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: It's amazing. And what he has been through and what 47 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: he can show you and will show you about obstacles 48 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: and limits and just living life. All these shows are important. 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: But when you get inspired, when you get motivated, when 50 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: you hear people who have achieved incredible things, ordinary people 51 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: doing extraordinary things. There's no extraordinary people. There's a there's 52 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: ordinary people who figure out their motivation and that they 53 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: can do it. The motto of my company believe in yourself. 54 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: That is Sean Swarner. Let me give you his bio. 55 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Just bring him up all right. Sean Swarner is a philanthropist, author, 56 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and keynote speaker. He is a two time terminal cancer 57 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: survivor who has dedicated his life to helping others reach 58 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: their full potential. Sean created Cancer Climber with his brother 59 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: in two thousand one, a nonprofit organization Shan that pays 60 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: for and travels with cancer survivors to climb Kilimanjaro. I'm 61 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: gonna do that with him. I told him that, uh, 62 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: and he's gonna hold me to it. Shawn's passion for 63 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: climbing and adventure blossomed after becoming the first cancer survivor 64 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: to summit Mount Everest. He is also the only person 65 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: to complete the World Ironman Championship and the Explorers Grand Slam, 66 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: which entails climbing the summits across all seven continents and 67 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: reaching both North and South poles. Yes, he's an underachiever 68 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: from executives of Fortune five companies such as Unilever and IBM, 69 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: to students and the New York Giants. His leadership workshops, 70 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: documentary True North, The Shawn Swarner Story, inspirational Keynotes, and 71 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: book series Seven Summits to Success have inspired and won 72 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: the hearts of millions to redefine their own impossible. His 73 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: story has been shared on The Steve Harvey Show, CBS 74 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Evening News, The Today Show, and Good Morning America. And Yes, 75 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: now you're gonna hear his story and be inspired by 76 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: him today right here on Fitness Disrupted Enough Talking quick 77 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Break When we come back Two times cancer survivor Sean 78 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Swarner and we are back. As I said in the intro, 79 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: you know fitness disrupted. Yeah, we talked about exercise, we 80 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: talked about nutrition, but we also talked about probably the 81 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: most important component of all of this, and that's motivation. 82 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: And as I said in the intro, I met Sean 83 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: years ago. We ran up the Empire State Building together, 84 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: and then we were on TV together. And it was 85 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: one of several times when someone tells their story, I'm like, yeah, 86 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: my story doesn't even come close, Like I just wanted 87 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: to walk off set shot and I think I said 88 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: it that day. I'm like, and he went first. So 89 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: it was like following, you know, like, okay, he had 90 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: kids or twice he's gonna tell you a story and 91 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna see that. It's like, okay, you win. So 92 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: you're an overachiever Sean in so many ways. And thank 93 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: you for taking the time, by the way, and just 94 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: we gotta start at the beginning, right. I know you've 95 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: told a story many times and I hate to make 96 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: a guest retell it, but we have to write. So 97 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: just start. You were a healthy kid up until and 98 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: you were a swimmer. By the way, we got to 99 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: talk about that. We didn't talk about that in the past. 100 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: That shows you have issues, by the way, if you're 101 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: a competitive swimmer, but but tell the story. You're a 102 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: healthy kid. And then at thirteen something happened. I'm so 103 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: excited to be after that exactly. Now you know where 104 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: we're going, right, I can't wait? Yeah? Um no, my 105 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: my story is. It starts off just like most people, 106 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, most people who are born in the Midwest. 107 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: I was just born in Ohio, and as I was 108 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: growing up, I was your typical kid, and I was 109 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: getting into trouble just like everybody else. My backyard was 110 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: like a cornfielder of bean field depending on the season. 111 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: And I was running across the country tracks swimming. I 112 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: even pulled crying out loud, you know, and I did 113 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: everything I possibly could to avoid trouble. And uh we 114 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: even tp the coach's yard. I mean that was that 115 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: was back before Philip was hard to find, was hanging 116 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: from the It was. It was grown on the trees 117 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: back not your vat exactly. I uh it was. It 118 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: was in the eighth grade when my life completely veered 119 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: off path. When I was, you know, thirteen years old, 120 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: playing basketball, came down and snapped my knee suffered a 121 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: knee injury. That knee injury essentially would change my life forever. 122 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: And if if you can imagine, like, you know, you're 123 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner and you have the turkey leg and you're 124 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: you're pulling off the the gristle, you're pulling off the 125 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: tendons and everything. That's kind of what my knee sounded 126 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: like and just snapped and that swelled up every joint 127 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: in my body. And the doctors told my parents, hey, 128 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: your firstborn son is he We're diagnosing him with advanced 129 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: stage four Hodgsons limphoma and he only has three months 130 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: to live. So I am, you know, on on the 131 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: cusp of my teen years and the cost of life essentially, 132 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, I have an expiration 133 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: date as an eighth grader. And most of my friends 134 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: were out essentially chasing girls, collecting baseball cars, having a 135 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: great time with their lives. And you know, at that 136 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: time in your your life, your hormones are kicking in 137 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: your growing hair and unusual places on your body. You know, 138 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm losing my hair because of the chemotherapy. And I 139 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: remember one morning I went into the shower and that's 140 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: when my all my hair came out at once. And 141 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: you know how normally you stayed in there and the 142 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: water hits your hair and it kind of seeps in, 143 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: then hits your scalp and you start washing your head. 144 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: I remember every time I brought my hands down, they 145 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: were covered in hair. So I was sixty pounds over 146 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: a wit. I collapsed in my hands and knees. I 147 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: was just weeping, pulling chunks of hair to the drain, 148 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: thinking about my life, you know, and at at thirteen, 149 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: I had a completely different perspective than most people. And 150 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: like I said, my my neighbor, let's say, two across 151 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: the street, two houses down, Jerry, you know he was 152 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: he was worried about Uh probably it was probably the 153 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Reebok pump at that point, you know, the nicest shoes 154 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: he was. He was probably counting like there again, we're 155 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: perfect reality to go to school, and I was looking 156 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: at at my own mortality. And you know what, Shan, 157 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: let me just have you there real quick, because you 158 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: I had heard this story before obviously when we we spoke, 159 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: but you have this documentary out now, True North, So 160 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: for the first time I was able to put pictures 161 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: to what you just described, So to see you at 162 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: that age and that first picture in the trailer especially, 163 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: it's just it's mind blowing. I mean, it just breaks 164 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: your heart to have that visual and to see you know, 165 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: everything you just described, you know, you call you captured 166 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: those moments and those are in the documentary and that 167 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: would be enough, sean for for most people. And we 168 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: laugh because it's because we're sick and durance athletes and 169 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: it makes it easier. But it didn't end there and 170 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: take it up from you know, from that. Yeah, I guess, 171 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: as you said earlier, I'm I'm an overachiever, right, So 172 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: I had to go and get and get a second cancer. 173 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, one one wasn't enough. I had to go 174 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: get another one. I went through the first one about 175 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: a year or so of the medicine, chemotherapy, everything, losing 176 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: my hair, losing my friends, losing everything. My life was 177 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: over and then I was placed in remission. I was 178 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: in remission for just about a year and that was 179 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: going in for a checkout for the first cancer when 180 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: they found in one day, they found a tumb right 181 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: on X ray, They did a needle biopsy, they took 182 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: out a lymph node, they put in a Hickman catheter, 183 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: which is like a permanent ivy. They cracked tooke my rids, 184 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: removed the tumor, put a drainage too, and started chemotherapy 185 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: in less than one day. So this time around, it 186 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: was it was much much worse. And I've actually done 187 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: some some math, and I found that the chances of 188 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: me surviving both Hodgkins and askin Stark coma, which was 189 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: a second cancer, is equivalent to win the lottery four 190 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: times in a row with the same numbers. That's hey, yeah, 191 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't wrap your head around it. You can't. 192 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: That's insane. And so now here you are again. You're 193 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: in the same place, but for a second time. And 194 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: where do you go from there? Well, from here I was, 195 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: I was actually putting medically induced comma for nearly a year. 196 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: They told my parents this time around, I had an 197 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: expiration into fourteen days, you know. So the first one 198 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: they gave me three months to live. A second time 199 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: they gave me seven fourteen days to live two weeks. 200 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: So they put in a medically induced coma. Because no 201 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: one's ever had these two cancers before, they didn't know 202 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: what to expect. So I have son. She became a 203 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, a walking toxic dump of chemotherapy because they 204 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: didn't know how to treat it. So I was three 205 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: months of intense chema, one month of intense radiation, and 206 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: then ten more months of intense chemotherapy. And every time 207 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: I was in the in the hospital for a treatment, 208 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: the doctors, because the treatments were so harsh, they gave 209 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: me something to knock me out. So essentially I was 210 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: in a medically induced coma for a year. I don't 211 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: remember being sixteen years old. You know, most times, you know, 212 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: when most guys you're getting your license and as you said, 213 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: you're starting, you know, dating and all that kind of stuff. 214 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: And here you are, for the past, you know, three 215 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: or four years, just completely hammered twice, and you know, what, 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: how does that turn around? What was what was the 217 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: turning point? You know when you came out and and 218 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: just speak to that well in all honestly, I think 219 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: the turning point was back within the first cancer when 220 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: I was when I was on the shower floor, like 221 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: I mentioned, and I literally thought to myself as a 222 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: thirteen year old that I had two choices. I could 223 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: either fight for my life or give up and die. 224 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: And then I was also thinking in that same moment 225 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to focus on not dying. I 226 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: wanted to focus on living. So, even at such a 227 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: young age, I developed a different perspective. And even now, 228 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: I never focus on the avoidance of what I don't want. 229 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: I focus on what I want, you know, because your 230 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: your brain is still gonna be drawn towards what you're 231 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: thinking about, what you're imagining, what you're visualizing. And I 232 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: told myself I didn't want to focus on not dying. 233 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to focus on living. In fact, I wanted 234 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: to focus on living and kicking butt, you know. A 235 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: year after I was placed in my treatment or remission 236 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: for the first second cancer, I actually won my high 237 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: school's lead track me in the hun to Me to Run, 238 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: you know. Oh and and barring in the fact I 239 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: forgot to mention this, I only have one lung. Is 240 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: it amazing what we leave vouch right, Yeah, I forgot 241 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: about that part, you know, half my lung capacity. Yeah, 242 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: it's just it's so amazing what you know. But in 243 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: thirteen years old, shown like, where did you think was 244 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: it your dad? Was it your mom? And where did 245 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: you find that strength. Where did you hind that clarity 246 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: and just kind of maturity to to just have that mindset? 247 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think it came from my parents. I 248 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: have been an athletes forever. You know. When I was 249 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: five years old, they actually enrolled me in some swimming 250 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: lessons and everything. And I was a competitive swimmer since 251 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: I was five. And one of the things that they 252 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: hammered hammered into my brain was I never had to 253 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: be the best. I just had to be my best. 254 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: So essentially throughout the years, you know, there's this idea 255 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: that called the compound effect, where those little tiny changes 256 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: add up to a huge difference, and I call them 257 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: micro changes. So what I did was I just focused 258 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: on being my best and and instead of improving myself 259 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: just exponentially, I improved myself just a tiny bit better 260 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: than I was yesterday, better than I was the day before, 261 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: better than I was the day before. So over time 262 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: and over the years, I've just gone up and up 263 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: and up and up and up. I love it, you know, 264 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: And this is why we're so that I talk about 265 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: this all the time. Sean as well did not have 266 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: cancer twice, so again you win. But you know it's 267 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: I call it excessive moderation, right, And and where I 268 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: will correct you if I may, and be so bold 269 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: is like when we say the word just, when we 270 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: say just do a little bit more. You know, now 271 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: when people say to me, Sean, like, oh, I only, 272 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: did you know I only walked a mile today? I 273 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: just you know, did ten minutes of of strength training. No, 274 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: it's not only your just, it's that you did, right. 275 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: I did. Stop saying just stop saying only, And you 276 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: are living, breathing proof of that through two cancers and 277 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: we've even gotten everest in the polls. I mean, I 278 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: did it in your intro. But you know that I 279 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: love when you talk about the mental side and all 280 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: the quotes. By the way, you've already you're you're you're 281 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: killing me because you're taking all my talking points. But 282 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: that's what it's about, right, I mean, you know I 283 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: bore people to death by saying, Sean. When I went 284 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: back to get my masters, I knew it had to 285 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: be exercise science, but I knew had to be sports 286 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: psychology and counseling, right. I knew the mind was so important. 287 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: And one quote I'm gonna have to grab because you're 288 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna say it before I get there. You talked about visualization. 289 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: You talk about how Foreverest you pictured yourself at the 290 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: top of the mountain for a year straight, right, and 291 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: talk about that like that? What the we? We always say, Sean, 292 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: the secrets to wife are on Instagram. It's all the quotes. 293 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: They're there, but people just don't believe them, right, they 294 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: don't believe them. So talk about that. Well, I think 295 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. And initially I was told that climbing 296 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: Everest with one lung was was physiologically impossible. I was 297 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: also told that battling those two cancers wasn't possible. But 298 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I used certain tools from my cancer to help me 299 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: succeed in sports. So even when I was a little kid, 300 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: have you ever read the books, the comic books Calman Hobbs, 301 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: So there's his his little alter ego is based Man's fifth. 302 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: I did something similar in my body where I was 303 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: laying in the hospital of bed giveting my chemotherapy treatments. 304 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: I would picture myself in the ivy bag in a 305 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: microscopic spaceship. And keep in mind, I can see your 306 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: face right now. You're like, where the he, how's he going? Well? Now, 307 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: listen I have much weirder things go on. We're we're 308 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: alined here. So I was in a microscopic spaceship, dripping 309 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: out of my IVY bag, and I could remember going 310 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: through the IVY two and I visualized my body laying, 311 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: the hospital bed to my left, the door to the 312 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: hospital that went out into the hallway to my left, 313 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: the television, the little the recliner chair in the right corner, 314 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: when my mom or my dead sitting, and then the 315 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: window outside, and then all of a sudden, I was 316 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: pushed into my body. Everything got dark, but all of 317 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: us little microscopic spaceships collected in the heart, and I 318 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: visualized myself being in the heart, and I can see 319 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: my my valves literally beating, and all of a sudden, 320 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: it was my turn to go out into the body. 321 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: So I got launched out of the heart, and I 322 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: would follow these blips on my dashboard that would direct 323 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: me if I came to a fork in my vein, 324 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, I would go to the right, go to the 325 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: the left, whatever, and I would sneak up on the 326 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: tumor that I was actually designed to destroy. So I 327 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: would unload the missiles, rockets, lasers, whatever they were they 328 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: were full of chemotherapy, drugs and radiation, and in my 329 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: mind I have visualized myself defeating the cancer from the inside. 330 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: So I used that going up Everest every single night. 331 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have any formal training. I taught myself everything 332 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: you know. In Initially I was living in Jacksonville, Florida, 333 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: where I believe it or not, the highest point in Florida, 334 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: I think is the top of the four Seasons hotel. 335 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: And I am, yeah, there's no hills. You can't even 336 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: marify on training Florida, right right. So I moved to Colorado, 337 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: where I still am, and every night for about nine 338 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: or ten months, I would lay in my bed before 339 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: I went to before I went to sleep, and I 340 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: would literally visualize myself on top and and it's not 341 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: And this is the component people are missing. It's it's 342 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: not the third person type dreaming visualization. It's the first 343 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: person where I'm seeing it from my perspective. But what 344 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: people don't do is they don't add in like what 345 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: I did is I smelled the O zone. I heard 346 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: the styrofoam crunching of the snow beneath my feet, I 347 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: felt the sun's radiations. I was I was trying to 348 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: use all senses. Yes. And then the number one component 349 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: people miss which helps you tap into that subconscious is 350 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the emotional attachment to the end result. How did I 351 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: feel on the summit? You know, sometimes when I was visualizing, 352 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: I would have tears coming down my face because I 353 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: was so happy, you know, doing being the first cancer 354 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: survivor to climb Everest. I had an emotional attachment to 355 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: the end result. That's what made it real to my brain, 356 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: because your brain doesn't really know the difference between vivid 357 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: visualization and reality. Oh my gosh, Like I'm getting all 358 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: choked up because yeah, And I'm so connected to that too. 359 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: And and for one of my story Shawn, real quick, 360 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: and I told it before, is you know, like you, 361 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: I wanted to do the y iron Man right. That 362 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: was a goal for a long time. And I put 363 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: screen saver on my computer for ten years was the 364 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: swim Start. Was a picture of the swim Start. I'm 365 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: gonna get choked up tone it. Then you know, ten 366 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: years later, I'm standing in that exact spot as you said, 367 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at that and I took a picture 368 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: and it had changed a little, right, the the trees 369 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: had changed a little bit. There was a new you know, 370 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: and it was like exactly what you just said. I 371 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: had seen it every morning and I knew that I 372 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: would get there. And when I got there, and as 373 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: you said, and I felt that feeling like what was 374 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: that feeling going to be? And it was just it's 375 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: so rewarding, and it was ridiculous because I couldn't swim 376 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: a lap and I couldn't do anything like that. Uh. 377 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: And and to your point, like you know, when you 378 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: picture it the way you're saying, and I love that 379 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: you talked first person, third person. And I did a 380 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: whole show Sean on how you have to use all 381 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: your senses right the smell like when I visualized, you know, 382 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: I taste the sweat, you know, the saying you hear, 383 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: the sound of your feet, all that kind of stuff. 384 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: It is so powerful. And talk more about that. I mean, 385 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've experienced that as you went up the 386 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: mountain as well. Absolutely absolutely. I mean you you hit 387 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: the nail on the head like there was not one 388 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: iota of a doubt that you weren't gonna do it. 389 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's the key. Let me let me 390 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: put it this way, Let's say there are there are 391 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: two people who are trying to quit smoking, one of 392 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: them said, and they both get off for the cigarette. 393 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: One of them says, no thanks, I'm trying to quit. 394 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: The other one says, no thanks, I'm not a smoker. Right. 395 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: You know, you become that success. So that's success that 396 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: necessarily define you. But that's who you become and you 397 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: you believe it at your core. So if you want 398 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: to do something, you tell yourself you are that you 399 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: are a representation of your repetition to help you get there. Right. 400 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: And you know I'm skipping ahead a little bit, but 401 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: at the end of every show shown, I say there 402 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: are three things we can control, how much you move, 403 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: what you put into your mouth, and your attitude. Your attitude, 404 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: and no one is better at that than you. Right, 405 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: and you say one of your quotes, I'm gonna grab 406 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: it now before you do. You know, cancer can take 407 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: your body, but it can't take your mind, right, I 408 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: mean that is everything. And as long as you're in 409 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: control of your mind, which no one has power over 410 00:20:54,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: except you, you know, the potential is limit with absolutely absolutely, 411 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: and so many people don't understand that. You know, I 412 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: I tested the whole visualization thing once, um you know, 413 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: as as you know, I take a group up Kil 414 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: Lajar every year as a fundraiser for a cancer charity, 415 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: and we actually pay for a survivor's trip. Anybody can go, 416 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: but then the survivor has to fundraise to pay it 417 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: forward to next year's survivor. So I actually tested the 418 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: whole visualization thing without training. I ran the New York 419 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: City Marathon and climbing Kilmajar, just only visualized and and granted, yes, 420 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: my legs seemed up, but I finished. I have a 421 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: sports psychology professor who he would say, He's like, you 422 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: gotta train a little bit. It's like the mind can 423 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: only do so much, but it could go absolutely Like 424 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: if your goal is just to finish, right, I mean, 425 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 1: the mind can take you a dorn for distance. Let 426 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: me give you one other quick one then, Sean, we'll 427 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: just trade off these visualization stories. Another one of my 428 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: goals was to be on the Today Show and you 429 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: and I were on what was it like, Channel WEBN, 430 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: I think way back when, which was yeah, and you've 431 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: been on all the shows with your story, but Today's 432 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: show was a goal, and I was pictured and visualized 433 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: myself and Matt Lower. Not a great story today, but 434 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: back then it was better. Right, But I pictured, you know, 435 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: and I saw everything. I saw myself sitting down, the conversation, everything. 436 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: So finally get the call and I get into the 437 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: green room and they say, we're switching. You're with Savannah Guthrie, 438 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: and so I text my wife. I go, who cares? Right, 439 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie, and my wife, being the nice woman she 440 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: is and the TV person, she says, well, uh, sit 441 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: down quickly because she's really tall. I'm like, thanks, thanks 442 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: for you know, thanks are calling me short, but long 443 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: story short. So I'm like, okay, whatever. I go out 444 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: on set. Matt Lower walks out. So exactly what I 445 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: envisioned happened, and even though I was told it wouldn't, 446 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: and I just who cared. Not that it made a difference, 447 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: but the power of the mind, when you see that, 448 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: it's just incredible, And you obviously have to work for it, right, 449 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: and you gotta you have to believe in yourself, you 450 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: have to do as you said. It's not a matter 451 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: of if it's gonna happen, but when absolutely, and it's 452 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: it's crazy. I know, it's it's kind of alluding to 453 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: the law of attraction. I think a lot of people 454 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 1: have a misconception of the law of attraction. It's not 455 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: like the book The Secret. We're gonna sit in the 456 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: corner and say I want to win a million times, 457 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: I want to give me the six magical numbers. Yeah, 458 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: that's that's b s. And it's not gonna happen. But 459 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: what happens with the law of attraction is once you 460 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: focus your mind on something, then your mind starts to 461 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: pick up on those little details and filters out the 462 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't matter. So I think that's what people 463 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: don't understand. When you when you focus on something, your 464 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: mind will start looking for opportunities to help you become 465 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: successful and filter out all the other noise. That's the 466 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: law of attraction that people don't understand. Right and surround yourself, 467 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: And that's why I feel so fortunate showing to have 468 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: this show and have people on and to be friends 469 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: with people like you, because you know, this is just 470 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: so empowering. You talk to someone like you and you 471 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: know the other stories, and there's so much negativity. I 472 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: would say social media, I'm like, just people turn it off, 473 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: like Twitter, is you know, if you have something, if 474 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: you don't have anything nice to say, go on Twitter. 475 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: I think it's what that is for. So surround yourself 476 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: with people and the stories that you know have, uh 477 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: what you want to accomplish, right, And I'm sure you 478 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: have who one of your mentors, by the way, over 479 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: the years the question I want to ask you, let's see, 480 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: well kind of tongue in cheek. When I was fighting 481 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: through the two answers, I collected Superman comic books. But 482 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: I can't say he was a person I really looked 483 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: up to be. He was a adbrocated individual, but I 484 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: would say it had to have been my parents. But 485 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: then also, there was a guy up in Canada. I 486 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever heard of. His name was 487 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Terry Fox. He was a he. Okay, so he's he's 488 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: like a legend up there. Unfortunately he passed away, but 489 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: he had cancer of the leg essentially was a stark cooma. 490 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: And his goal is to run across Canada and get 491 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: one dollar from every Canadian to help support cancer research. 492 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: And he made it to I want to say, thunder Bay, 493 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: and he was doing it. He was literally running a 494 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: marathon a day with a fake leg, a prosthetic leg, 495 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: And I remember watching him and imitating his run around 496 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: my house when I was eleven twelve years old. Then 497 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: the next year I got diagnosed with cancer. So I 498 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: actually looked up to him as kind of like I 499 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't say a mentor, but as as like this this 500 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: spirit almost maybe like a spiritual guide to help me 501 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: through now. And that's what I mean by that, That's 502 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: exactly it, and that's it's so powerful. And and by 503 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: the way, that was back when like prosthetic legs were 504 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: nothing like they are today, Right, I mean that that 505 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: was painful, not that it isn't even today, but amazing 506 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: and and you know how ridiculous at the time for 507 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: him to do that and to think he could, right, 508 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: And it shows how powerful that message is to someone 509 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: like you and so many other people. And it's what 510 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: you're doing climbing kilman Jaro um and talk about just 511 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: how rewarding that must be getting to the top with 512 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: these people and just those moments like that's what likes 513 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: about John I always talking about I don't care about stuff. 514 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I want those moments. I want that moment at the time. 515 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: That's why I'm coming with you next year. I can't 516 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: believe I put that out there, but I'm coming. It's 517 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: not a question, but that I know. I know you're 518 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: not a question, but those moments you must have had, 519 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: not only yourself, but now bringing that to other people, 520 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: talk about how rewarding that is. You know, it's it's 521 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: almost to the point now. Actually it is to the 522 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: point now where let's say for Christmas. You know, you 523 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: get to an age where you you don't really you 524 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: enjoy getting gifts, but it means more to give gifts, 525 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, to to see the look on on somebody's face, 526 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: to see the look on you, on your child's face. 527 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: You know, it means more to give than to receive. 528 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: So the same thing here. You know, I've been up 529 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: killam Gerald. I think I think this year will be 530 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: my eighteenth or nineteen, and every year it never fails. 531 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: We get to the top. And because we leave in 532 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: the middle of the night. You know, when you get there, 533 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: you're emotionally exhausted, you're physically exhausted, you're you're mentally just spent. 534 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: Everybody is emotional. You know that the tears are coming down. 535 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: We're hugging each other, we're all crying, you know, seeing congratulations, 536 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: and it never fails. Somebody comes up to me, looks 537 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: me right yond and says, thank you for getting me here. 538 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: I immediately look at them and they say, I didn't 539 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: do anything to get you here. And then all of 540 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, you can see that light bulb go off 541 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: above their head. They're like, oh yeah, Now in an instant, 542 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: they're empowered, like I can do that. I did. I 543 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: it that myself. So more than anything, it's about the camaraderie. 544 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: It's about getting people to the top and empowering them 545 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: to believe in themselves right right. The power of that, 546 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: and you alluded to it at the beginning. You know, 547 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: the sports psychology term for those small steps you talked 548 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: about is self efficacy. And that's what I talk about 549 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: all the time, how self efficacy, situational confidence is everything. 550 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: And that's why you know, I don't want people going 551 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: on crash diets, not because they don't work short term, 552 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: but because there's an end date and then you feel 553 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: bad about yourself. So when you take those small steps, 554 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: they build on themselves. I never thought you know, what 555 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: you and I have achieved over time is the result 556 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: of those small steps and the constant belief. You know, 557 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: we didn't come out of the womb saying oh we're 558 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna run marathons and and you're gonna climb Everest. But 559 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: you know when when you have those small successes, that 560 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: confidence builds, right, and and again it sounds so simplistic, 561 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: but it's so powerful. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean everyone knows, 562 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, you are what you eat, but I essentially 563 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: say you are what you comes to. You know, it 564 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: can be through media, it can be through food, whatever 565 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: it might be. But if if you want to change 566 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: who you are, change what you do, you know, when 567 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: you wake up in the morning, you probably have a 568 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: set pattern. And if you wake up when you hit snooze, 569 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, four or five times, you're subconsciously telling yourself, 570 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not too excited about my day. 571 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing for me to be anxious about. I'm not 572 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: excited just to start anything. When my alarm goes off, bam. 573 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: Within three seconds the U I turn it off and 574 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm out of bed, you know, because I am getting 575 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: out of bed and I'm thinking, all right, man, let's 576 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: do it right. But most people they hit the snooze 577 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: and like, you know, my day can wait. Over and 578 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: over and over again. You're telling yourself, yeah, I can wait, Yeah, 579 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: I can wait, I can wait. And what happens is 580 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: throughout your day you probably notice that you're getting a 581 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: little bit slower, you're not excited, your emotions start falling away. 582 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: But if you instantly start your day by jumping out 583 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: of bed over and over and over again, you become 584 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: that repetition. You become what you do. So if you 585 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: want to change something, change what you do and make 586 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: it a habit, like you said, it's it's it's not 587 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: that diet. It's not like um oh, hey, I want 588 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: to lose fifteen pounds for the wedding and then put 589 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: it all back on again. Right now. It becomes who 590 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: you are, right. It's a lifestyle. It's not a it's 591 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: not a moment in time. It's no end date. Again, 592 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: we hear it and what you said to and I 593 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: love this and actually so interesting. So I spoke with 594 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: bas Routen. You know m M a guy crazy. Uh, 595 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: let's put it this way. I don't know if you don't, 596 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, I knew of him and then to interview 597 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: him like he's the only guy who has liver shots 598 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: as part of his email address and I'll leave it 599 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: at that. You know, I mean, just such an amazing guy, 600 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: but he hit on something. Dean car Nazis hit on it. 601 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: You hit on it. And I think this is so important, 602 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: especially in today's world. Shawn. Stop comparing yourselves to others. 603 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I would say that was powerful years ago, 604 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: but now with social media and fomo and all this 605 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, just speak about how powerful that is. 606 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: To stop that you're only competing with yourself. Absolutely, and 607 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: I'll even take it one further that it bobbles my 608 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: mind how so many people are more concerned about what 609 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: others think of themselves than what they think of themselves, right, 610 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: you know I don't. I don't understand that. You know, 611 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: why would I be more concerned, no offense, Why would 612 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: I be more concerned about what you think I should 613 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: eat as or what I should do about with my 614 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: life than what I should do about my own life. 615 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: You know, people, people aren't taking responsibility and they're not 616 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: understanding that all their actions in the past X number 617 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: of years they've been alive has has brought them to 618 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: where they are today, you know, and you're not living 619 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: anybody else's life. You're living your own life. Like I 620 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: said earlier, I never had to be the best. I 621 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: just had to be my best because the instant you 622 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: start comparing yourself to somebody else, you're no longer following 623 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: your personal core values. You're going after what that person 624 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: wants you and then you essentially lose yourself in the process. 625 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: Why would want to be a quote of somebody else. 626 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: We're all unique individuals with a different chemistry, make up 627 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: different chromosomes. Why wouldn't you want to be someone unique 628 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: and be be yourself? I'm sure you had this experience 629 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: probably sometime. You know, when I did my first Iron Man, 630 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: there was no Internet, like and it was in New Zealand, 631 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: and that was one of the reasons I went as 632 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: thirty years old and no one knew and I couldn't swim, 633 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: and and no one was going to know how the 634 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: wheels fell off. Right. But now today and and you know, 635 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: there's the Internet and people can follow you in real time, right, 636 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: and they don't see if you get a flat tire 637 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: or whatever happens. And I remember sean years ago, like 638 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: wheels falling off and you spend the entire race from 639 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: that point forward potentially writing that email right writing that's 640 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: that that race report. Oh, here's what happened. And the 641 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: moment I said I don't care, and people say, Tom, 642 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: write a race report, and I go, I don't really 643 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: do them because I don't. I don't. I don't, you know, 644 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to make those Yeah, things go wrong 645 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: and that's life and there are obstacles and we're all 646 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: in it together and you know, it's all the same 647 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: weather and you know it's not a matter of if 648 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: something's gonna go wrong, but what But it was the 649 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: most free in time for me, Sean, when now I 650 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: truly don't care, like I just it's for me, you know, 651 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: I Dean Carnazi is ridiculous, bare mountain fifty k last minute, 652 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: like the night before, to your point, hadn't trained or anything, 653 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: hadn't run a long time. And I literally went on 654 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: the site shown and it said full and you know 655 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: you and I go, it's it's probably not full. So 656 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: I said, let me see if it will take my registration. 657 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: It took it. Then the next morning I'm like, I'm 658 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: getting up going like what if I get there and 659 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: they say, you know you're not registered? Well, I was, 660 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: and I did the most ridiculously hard fifty k run 661 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: I've done ever, and it was awesome and it was 662 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: so slow, but it was my day and I enjoyed it. 663 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: I enjoyed out healthy I was. And that's one thing 664 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: Sean is like whenever I say to people like, I've 665 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: never had cancer, you know, And I know that when 666 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm feeling bad about myself about how I feel during 667 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: a race or something, I go, I'm healthy. You know 668 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm healthy enough to do this. And that's one thing 669 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about. Here's a weird question, 670 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of back what we talked about the very start. 671 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: Do you I know that when I coached this cancer charity, 672 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: I would get angry personally with first world problems. It 673 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: was really hard for me to go like, would you, uh, 674 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, just first world problems? You don't. I've never 675 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: had cancer, but I've around enough people. Now do you 676 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: ever get to that point where you're like, it's gotta 677 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: be frustrating and I'm sure you're above it, But did 678 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: that happen at the start? At the very least, you're like, listen, 679 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: I've had cancer twice, you know, uh, your problems aren't 680 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: really that big. I know, everyone's problems are problems, but 681 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: there has to be perspective, you know. I think the 682 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: biggest thing is whenever I talk to somebody, you know, 683 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: like Sam flying somewhere for a Keno talk, it always 684 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: comes up. Unless they have the headphones on, the hat 685 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: down or whatever, they're asleep. I'm not gonna poke them 686 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: and say, hey, wait, let's talk. Um. You know, the 687 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: question always comes up, what do you do? And I'm like, 688 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: oh man, that's just gonna let the cat out of 689 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: the back. You know this, this, this, this, this, But 690 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: so many people you I forget what's the questions? You 691 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: get frustrated? Yeah no, But like you know, when listen 692 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: live in an aff when area food is plentiful, people 693 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: are starving themselves on purpose, and you know, I'm like, 694 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: don't you get it. Everyone's problems or problems. We're all 695 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: fighting our fight. But at some point people have to 696 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: get perspective and go it's pretty good. I'm pretty healthy. 697 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: I actually can go out and run. My pain is 698 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: not that I don't have I have two lungs. I 699 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: can actually go do much more. I don't have to 700 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: climb everest, but I kind of have to take care 701 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: of what I have. Well, let me ask you the question, then, 702 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: do you think those people uh kind of live by 703 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: the ideology of misery loves company, like they're looking for 704 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: something to to complain about. Yes, Yes, such a great point. 705 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: Way to turn that around on me. Yes, And that's 706 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: why I said, like, and that's why that's why I said, 707 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: we we want to be around each other. As soon 708 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: as I met you for the first time ago. This 709 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: is a guy I want to be friends with and 710 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: be connected to because this is a positive thing. He's 711 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: gonna make me better. He's gonna make me better. You know. 712 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: I get a lot of criticisms about this show whatever occasionally, 713 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: and I go, you don't have to like me, but like, 714 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm just I want to make you better. I want 715 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: to give you the information. And in fitness Sean, people 716 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: lie about what they eat they and I get it, 717 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: and they lie about how much they exercise and and 718 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: it's it's a tough business. And you know the number 719 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: of clients when I was a trainer that end horribly 720 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: just because of that. To shoe it's a tough thing. 721 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: So yes, and and that's why we should surround ourselves 722 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: with people who have achieved and are positive people, right, 723 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it makes life so much easier, I would argue, 724 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: but you're right. Misery loves company. Yeah. Absolutely. And those 725 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: people who are lying to themselves, lying to you, they're 726 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: they're lying to themselves, you know, they're they're not they're 727 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: not fully committed, They're they're not owning who they are, 728 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: they're not owning their responsibility. They're not taking responsibility for 729 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: their own lives. They're reaching out and they're actually trying 730 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: to blame someone else for their situation. I think. And 731 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: I can't say how many times you're going back to 732 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, people say, oh, well, I've never had cancer. 733 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't imagine what that was like. Oh 734 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: but you know, my my spruggle compared like pales in 735 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: comparison to what you've been through. But for each person, 736 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: it is real. That is their their their cancer, that 737 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: is their effort that they have to climb. However, the 738 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: people who are making excuses, they're going to continue doing 739 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: that over and over and over again. You know. It's 740 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: it's like the adas you're you're working people out. You 741 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 742 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: a drink. You know, you can show them how how 743 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: to do it, but you can't make them put in 744 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: the effort, in the work. And that's you know, I start. 745 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: I have new book out, Sean, and at the very 746 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 1: beginning in the intro, I say, listen, if you don't 747 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: believe that you can change, and I'm gonna give you 748 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: the science. I'm gonna give you all the studies and 749 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But if you don't believe you have 750 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: the capacity to not only change, but far exceed your goals, 751 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: stop reading the book right now, Which isn't a great 752 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: way to start a book, but I had to say, like, 753 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about, and like I'm gonna give 754 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: you the science, but like that's one thing. It will 755 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: kind of wrap it up with this kind of stuff, Sean, 756 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: that starts to the nuts, starts that has driven me nuts. 757 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: And why I do this show is the stories and 758 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: the people who say you can't change, it's your genetics. 759 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: They give those excuses, right, and that to me is 760 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: beyond irresponsible, absolutely, and and it's it's just become their 761 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: their pattern, you know, it's it's their mL We human 762 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: beings are a representation of repetition, you know, we are 763 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: habits were habitual creatures. So you you essentially are what 764 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: you do every day. You know, when when I alluded 765 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: to it earlier, you know, when when you wake up? 766 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: What do meteorologists do when they wake up in the morning, 767 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: What do moms and dads do when they wake up 768 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: in the morning, What do Olympic athletes do in the morning. 769 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: You know, they all have a set pattern to help 770 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: them become who they are. And I think people just need, 771 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: if they want to change their lives, start with something small. 772 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: Just do one thing, one tiny thing, and that one 773 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: tiny thing could potentially compound into something tremendous. And you know, 774 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: let's bring this around to food, because you you spoke 775 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: about in one interview your diet, and I've always said, 776 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, when people get sick, and I talked to 777 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: my doctor about this, Uh, they tend to keep it 778 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: simple and eat healthy foods and whole foods, and you know, 779 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: so all the diets kind of go out the window 780 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: when you get that sickness. So my kind of philosophies, 781 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: why don't people try to eat that way before you 782 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: know they have the issue to hopefully get the health 783 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: benefits and protective elements that come with that. But your 784 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: diet you talked about, like your your breakfast, you know, 785 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: oatmeal and chia and just the healthy stuff. Right, it's 786 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: not complicated and it fuels your body and you're not 787 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: doing anything weird. You're just doing healthy stuff right. Absolutely, 788 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: you know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna feed my 789 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: body crap all the time. Granted, yes, I have been 790 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: on the couch, you know, on a Sunday afternoon, watch 791 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: a movie after movie after movie, devouring a bag of 792 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: Ta chips, thinking I'll start my workout tomorrow. You know, 793 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure we've all been there at one point. Yeah, 794 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 1: you're going to Stavid chip crumbs, all of you. Sure, 795 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: it's it's everything in moderation for me, I think. But 796 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: the majority nine nine percent of a time, yes, I 797 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: am healthy. So I am doing something every day to 798 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: keep my body shape, to keep my mind in shape. 799 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 1: If you know, everybody slips. We're human. You know, even 800 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to say even vegan people who eat 801 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: a steak, they probably won't if called what But you you, 802 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: you you are what you you you you do for 803 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: the majority of the time. You know, every once in 804 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: a while, it's okay, to slip. Just go back to 805 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: your your your MS, go back to what you normally 806 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: do and let's let's yeah. Because in the world of 807 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: social media, Sean and like I have to compete with 808 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: the fitness people in that perfect picture that totally contrived 809 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: and the you know, photo shop. And I would say, 810 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: as you said, don't do what someone says they do, 811 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: do what they do, right. So these people on Instagram, 812 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: these fitness influencers, it's like, oh, here's what I say 813 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: I do, and then you know it's not how they 814 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: live their lives. But the answers are simple, right. And 815 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: what I would say to Sewan is, listen, you know 816 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: I have two boys and we have ice cream in 817 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: the house. Of course, it's work hard, play hard. But 818 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: the healthier we get. I think that's what people don't 819 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: realize enough, Sean, is that you crave the healthy foods more, 820 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: you eat less of the unhealthy foods. You still have it, 821 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: but you don't feel as good after the two bags 822 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: of potatoships. Right, So the body kind of finds its 823 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: center and you learn what moderation is and it's not 824 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: difficult if you stick with it long enough, and you know, 825 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: here's here's a good example of how the compound effect 826 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: works too, and how people don't realize what they do 827 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: every single day adds up. Let's say you you keep 828 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: nutrition the same, you keep your exercise the same, you 829 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: could keep your sleep patterns the same. Absolutely everything is 830 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: the same across the board for three years, except you 831 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: drink one well, I don't want to give a brand name, 832 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: one solo pop, one coach, you know, whatever, it's it's 833 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: a roughly hundred fifty calories. You add that up over 834 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: three years, that's a hundred We'll just say it's about 835 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,479 Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy thousand calories. Now, keeping in mind 836 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: what one pound is roughly calories. If you keep everything 837 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: the same, you just gained almost fifty pounds by doing nothing. 838 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: Now you do the same thing the opposite direction, you 839 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: remove something. I'm glad you went. Yeah, And that's it, 840 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: you know. So we started by talking about small changes, 841 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, you can't say only or just, 842 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: but that's it, Sean. And that's why I said, you know, 843 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: when you change everything a little bit, the excessive moderation part, 844 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, you change your diet a little bit, you 845 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: do that one thing that you talked about you change 846 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: the habit. You know, you exercise, you move a little 847 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: bit more. That's what you and I do, you know. 848 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: Dean carn As he said to me, He's like, you're 849 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: probably standing as you're doing the show, aren't you. I am, 850 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: And you look like you are, right. I mean that 851 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: is not listen to everybody, this is not set up, 852 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: so you know, total aside. But you know you don't 853 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: get in shape by going to the gym. That helps, 854 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: But it's what you do when you leave the gym, right, 855 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: how you eat, how you stand, how you move all 856 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: day long? And guess what Sean and I are standing, 857 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: because I'm sure Sean will say exactly what I would. 858 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel as good to sit. It doesn't feel 859 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: as good the healthier you get, right, and the same 860 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: thing like it hurts, doesn't Sean, Like I've said, like 861 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: the fourteen hour flying in coach to New Zealand is 862 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: way more painful than the race itself, you know, And 863 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm too cheap to go up front. So yeah, no, 864 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: And that's the thing right as you and I choose 865 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: to not set because it feels good and everyone can 866 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: feel that way. There's that perfect word we choose to 867 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: do that in every situation, we have its choice in 868 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: in how we want to eat, what we want to eat, 869 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: what we want to do, how we want to say things, 870 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: how we want to feel. That word choice is huge 871 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: that most people don't own, you know what. That's usually 872 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: how I end the show. So I'm just gonna let 873 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: you have you just reward exactly, And that's and and 874 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: and let's end with that that there's hope, like you're 875 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: all about hope. And I love that scene in shawshank Redemption, 876 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: And it's what we've been talking about. Right, You couldn't 877 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: take away his hope, right. And the brain is the 878 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: most powerful thing is we're talking about with the visualization, 879 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: and you know, you are literally I know people abuse 880 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 1: that phrase, but you're literally living proof that the mind, 881 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: what you believe, just just has incredible healing powers and 882 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: that you can achieve so much. What is next? I 883 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: know you're leaving in literally like three days, right too, 884 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: for kilman jar with him. Yeah, exactly, I'm leaving in 885 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: the three of days for Chilly, taking a group up 886 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: seven days on the mountain, taking them on a four 887 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: day spafari, dropping them off of the airport picking up 888 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: another group, and then a day letter heading back up 889 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: the mountain and the whole interim. While I'm gone, I 890 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: have a group helping me with what's called the Summit Challenge, 891 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: which is a series of essentially a comprehensive series of 892 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: challenges that help people with intentional and personalized micro changes 893 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: that they can utilize in their lives to help them 894 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: understand what their core and intrinsic motivators are. So it's 895 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: a seven week or it's a seven challenge and three 896 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,959 Speaker 1: week per challenge, so totally about twenty one weeks where 897 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: people just build slowly. The first thing is they actually 898 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: rewire the brain through neuroplasticity and understanding what their personal 899 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: core motivators are, and then they kind of build on 900 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: that to the next challenge and then the next challenge 901 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: and then the next challenge. I love it. And my 902 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: title of my new book, Showan is the micro Workout Plan, 903 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: because it's all about building on those small things. Right. 904 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: We are so aligned and tell everybody where they can, 905 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, follow you as you do that and social 906 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: media stuff, how are they going to connect to you? 907 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: That's that's the easiest question use that you've asked it's 908 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: it's just Sean Swanner. Sean like Sean Connery, like the 909 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: proper way Sea and Swanner Warner Brothers with the front 910 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: SHN Swanner dot com. Yeah, and it'll be right there 911 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 1: in the notes for the show. I can't thank you enough. 912 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: This time next year, I'm going up that mountain with you. 913 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: And by the way, I haven't told you that I'm 914 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: really really bad at outitude. So I've had one experience 915 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: and it went horrifically wrong. So I'm gonna be the 916 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: one that you're gonna have to carry to the top. 917 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: All right. I'll start training now. A hundred and eighty 918 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: four pound pack on your back. You just get used 919 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: to that right now. I'll try to lose a couple 920 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: of pounds by then. Thank you so much. Have such 921 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: an amazing time. And uh are you do you actually 922 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: post like real time? You know stuff from there? Do 923 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: you wait to get back? We're gonna try to post 924 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: real time over there, you know. Obviously there's a love 925 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: in Colorado. There's a nine hour time difference, so seven 926 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: hours from the East coast. But we're gonna try to 927 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: even potentially go live on Facebook or Instagram too. Oh cool. 928 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: Al right, so I will share all that stuff as well. 929 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: And if you on a book, Sewan, like you know 930 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: companies one of the greatest lecturers out there, motivational speakers 931 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: like that is what all these companies need, I would 932 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: say too, especially in today's climate, right, is just the 933 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: power of the mind and positivity and all that great 934 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: stuff that Sean brings. Sean, have an amazing trip. Thanks 935 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: so much, so great to catch up again. All right, 936 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: speak to We'll be right back after this short break, 937 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: and we are back. I'm sweating, I'm sweating, I'm excited. 938 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: I get motivated, as I hope you do myself with 939 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: all of these amazing guests. Dean car nazzis bas routing 940 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: Sean Swarner and I'm gonna repeat the story. So a 941 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: lot of times when the show is over, the interview 942 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: part is over, you know, I'll talk to the guest 943 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: a little bit longer, and you know, he just told 944 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: a quick story and I'm gonna tell it for him. 945 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: He I think was a little concerned about how it 946 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: would come across, but we're just talking and he said, yeah, 947 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, he had a person who was going to 948 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: potentially climb up kill him and Jaro, and the person 949 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: said yeah, but they had exercise induced asthma, and Sean 950 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 1: wanted to say, I okay, but I have one lung. 951 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: And again, not to minimize people's issues, and you all 952 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: have issues, but this is the problem is that you 953 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: let those issues limit you. Sean has one lung, he 954 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: had cancer twice. He went to the top of Everest, 955 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: he climbed the seven Summits, the highest summits, seven different places. 956 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: And I'm going to screw it up the seven Summit challenge. 957 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: Climbers know what I'm talking about, and ski to the 958 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 1: North and South Pole and did the Hawaii iron Man 959 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: one long cancer twice more likely to have won the 960 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: lottery four times with the same numbers. I bring you 961 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: these guests, too hopeful Lee, shake things up, and again 962 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: there's gonna be one who just resonates who you connect to. 963 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: And that's why I bring you so many different people 964 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: with you know, so many different accomplishments, but every single 965 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: one of them is a human being. Every single one 966 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: is an ordinary person who believed in themselves, who used 967 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: the power of the mind. I can't tell you how 968 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: much I enjoy having conversations with people like Sean sworn 969 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: about the power of the mind. And if you think 970 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't work, then you're right. And you think it works, 971 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: you're right. And it is very easy to surround ourselves 972 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: with people who misery loves company, as he said, and 973 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: don't do it. Surround yourself with people who are going 974 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: to make you better. Consume as Sean said, content that 975 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,959 Speaker 1: is going to make you better, and do one thing 976 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: one thing. One change leads to big changes. But those 977 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,760 Speaker 1: big changes are just the small changes that compound over time. 978 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: But it's the self efficacy that you build, that confidence 979 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: that you can do it that hopefully someone like Sean 980 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: Swarner is going to help you to believe that you 981 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: can achieve so much. Do not let your mental limitations 982 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: hold you back. Thank you Sean Swarner for taking the time. 983 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: And yes, he will be off to kilman Jaro in 984 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 1: three days and next year. At this time I told 985 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: him I would do it with him years ago. I 986 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: told him I would do it with him next year officially, 987 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: So I will do it. Got to put it on 988 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: my calendar, make goals, set the date, and then achieve them. 989 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: All right, thank you so much for a listening. I 990 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed that. Oh my gosh. We have so 991 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: many great guests coming up. We've had so many great ones, 992 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: and we will continue and there will be a mix 993 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: of shows. As I said, I'm gonna get be the exercise. 994 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the nutrition, and I'm gonna give 995 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: you the motivation. That is the only way change happens 996 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: long term and in a balanced toalistic way. All right, 997 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,280 Speaker 1: could you please rate the show? If you haven't ready 998 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: the show, come on. That's here. That's the little thing 999 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna do today. I want to see those numbers 1000 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: from this show. If you have not rated the show, 1001 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: there's your one thing you're gonna do today. Rate the show, okay, 1002 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: and subscribe to the show. Make it two things. Subscribe 1003 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: to the show so you don't miss any of these 1004 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 1: great guests and topics. 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I should say 1015 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: every every week, every show, three shows a week. See 1016 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,720 Speaker 1: I need more caffeine. Thank you so much for listening. 1017 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,280 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland. This is Fitness Disrupted. Believe in yourself. 1018 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: Fitness Disrupted is a production of I Heart Radio. For 1019 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the I heart 1020 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 1021 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: favorite shows.