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Speaker 1: Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Good

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Speaker 1: morning everyone, It's Wednesday, December eleventh. Welcome to Morning Run.

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Speaker 2: I'm Amy Robox and I'm TJ Holmes. And on today's run,

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Speaker 2: screaming at cameras, tussling with deputies, and I was before

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Speaker 2: he even got in the courthouse. An eventful first court

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Speaker 2: appearance yesterday for the alleged healthcare CEO killer, Luigi Mangioni.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Mangioni has found a following. Support for the suspected

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Speaker 1: killer grows online as people raise money for his legal defense.

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Speaker 1: They're even selling Mangioni merchandise as well.

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Speaker 2: Also this morning, another listeria outbreak. This time it's ready

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Speaker 2: to eat chicken. At least a dozen people have been

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Speaker 2: hospitalized and tragically, two babies have died. Will tell you

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: And sale canceled. Sandy Hook families endure yet another delay

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Speaker 1: in getting Alex Jones to pay up after a judge

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Speaker 1: halts the sale of his Info Wars media empire.

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Speaker 2: And President elect Trump names Kimberly Gilfoyle as his ambassador

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Speaker 2: to Grease, but did she relinquish her other title fiance

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Speaker 2: to Donald Trump Junior.

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Speaker 1: It's a musical, but that doesn't mean you should be singing.

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Speaker 1: Wicked fans, once told not to belt out tunes during

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Speaker 1: the movie now have a few a new option to

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Speaker 1: sing it till their little hearts. Context.

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Speaker 2: We will get into that at the bottom of our

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Speaker 2: run today, but we do begin here at the top.

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Speaker 2: On this Wednesday morning, the run has to start in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: where twenty six year old murder suspect Luigi Mangioni made

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Speaker 2: quite a scene as police rushed him into an Altuna courthouse.

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Speaker 2: He was doing court for an extradition hearing after police

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Speaker 2: arrested him Monday for the shooting death of United Healthcare

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Speaker 2: CEO Brian Thompson that happened in New York last week.

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Speaker 1: Mangioni was handcuffed, he was shackled. He actually had to

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Speaker 1: be physically dragged by police into the courthouse. As he

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Speaker 1: was shouting to the media outside, he said, it's completely

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Speaker 1: out of touch and an insult to the intelligence, to

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Speaker 1: the American people, it's a lived experience. And when he

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Speaker 1: was said saying this, if you've seen the video, it

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Speaker 1: looked like he was almost snarling.

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Speaker 2: It was in such stark contrast as many of the

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Speaker 2: pictures that had put out before he had been arrested

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Speaker 2: of him smiling, and even some say he was flirting

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Speaker 2: in one picture. And some of the things online even

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Speaker 2: that they had of him, showed him in a very

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Speaker 2: different place.

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Speaker 1: Kins was yeah, kind and humble was how he was described.

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Speaker 2: Absolute contrast what we saw yesterday. He's facing several charges

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Speaker 2: in New York, mainly that second Rege murder charge. His

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Speaker 2: attorneys are challenging extradition though, and the judge is now

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Speaker 2: giving his team fourteen days to file a formal challenge.

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Speaker 1: Now. Manngioni was mostly silent during the hearing, but he

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Speaker 1: did speak out at one point in dispute what the

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Speaker 1: prosecution was saying. That he was carrying around ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars in cash, that the bag he was carrying, prosecutors said,

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Speaker 1: could block cell phone signals, which signals which pointed to

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Speaker 1: his sophisticated criminal planning. The prosecution was making the case

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Speaker 1: that he should be denied bond because he's not only

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Speaker 2: So well, all this was going on on, Mangoni interjected.

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Speaker 2: He said, and I quote I'd like to correct two things. First,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where any of that money came from.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it was planted. And also that

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Speaker 2: bag was waterproof, so I don't know about criminal sophistication. Well,

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Speaker 2: his attorney quickly said, piped down. I told him, don't

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Speaker 2: say a word. You're not supposed to be talking during

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Speaker 2: these of course, your attorney's supposed to be doing it

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Speaker 3: The judge ended up denying bail for Mangioni.

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Speaker 1: Now, according to his arrest warrant, Mangioni had written admissions

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Speaker 1: about the crime on him and specifically referenced being frustrated

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Speaker 1: with the healthcare system in this country, Mangioni writing that

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Speaker 1: what could be better than to quote kill the CEO

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Speaker 2: Mari quotes as the detectives continued to zero in on

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Speaker 2: a motive. They've been looking into stabilitating chronic back issues

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Speaker 2: he's been having he suffered when he was a child.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Mangioni's family reported him missing this past November,

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Speaker 2: just a few months after he had undergone back surgery.

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Speaker 1: And just few weeks before his alleged crime. Now, according

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Speaker 1: contact following that last surgery. And there has been a

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Speaker 1: disturbing groundswell of support from Angioni online despite the fact

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Speaker 1: that yes, he is accused of the targeted and premeditated

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Speaker 2: Now you have a lot of folks out there arguing

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Speaker 2: United Healthcare denies thousands of life saving health claims every year.

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Speaker 2: There was a give sind Go page. If you're not

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Speaker 2: familiar with them, that's pretty much the same concept as

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Speaker 2: a Go Fundme page where you raise money you kind

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Speaker 2: There's a page there that was created by what's called

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Speaker 2: the December fourth Legal Committee. They're out of New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: That one raised some twenty six thousand dollars as of

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Speaker 2: this recording for Mangioni and his legal fees. However, other

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Speaker 2: attempts to raise money for Mangioni have been shut down.

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Speaker 2: In particular, Yes we'll go back to go fund me.

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Speaker 2: Now they've reportedly taken down several pages that were set

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Speaker 2: up to raise legal funds from Mangoni. The company points

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Speaker 2: to their policy that prohibits legal defense fundraisers for people

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Speaker 2: who've been accused of violent crimes.

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Speaker 1: And some supporters of Mangioni are directing their anger towards McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: They started leaving scathing comments criticizing the fast food chain

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Speaker 1: for essentially snitching giving them one star reviews. Mangioni was

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Speaker 2: So the review has been slamming the restaurant, with some

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Speaker 2: leaving one star ratings and praising the alleged shooter for

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Speaker 2: his actions. Some of those reviews have received hundreds and

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Speaker 2: hundreds of likes. Google stepped in decided to intervene here

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Speaker 2: and remove the negative online reviews, and it's going to

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Speaker 2: continue to do so because they say this is a

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Speaker 1: Policies, namely, the reviews must be based on a person's actual,

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Speaker 1: real experiences with a location, not what is known now

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Speaker 1: as review bombing. That's apparently when a business is hit

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Speaker 2: And then there's the merchandise it's been popping up for

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Speaker 2: sale online as well, things in support of man Gioni,

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Speaker 2: things with his face on it, things with that phrase

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Speaker 2: DENI defend to pose on it.

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Speaker 3: You've got t.

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Speaker 2: Shirts out there, hoodies, coffee mugs, even got Christmas ornaments

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Speaker 2: and those words, does Nie defend the pose those with

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Speaker 1: It's disturbing what this says about so many people. We

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Speaker 2: Not sure what's going on, but there is anger, and

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Speaker 2: it's legit, like real fire, anger like that. All of

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Speaker 2: us have a reason to be mattered at a healthcare company.

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Speaker 2: But even if you don't go online and write some

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Speaker 2: think to yourself for a moment today. Is there any

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Speaker 2: part of you sitting around privately that is happy that

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Speaker 2: I hope that's the vast minority.

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Speaker 1: That's tough to be, but there have been enough people

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Speaker 1: you concerned about where we're headed as a country and

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Speaker 1: the vitriol all right. Next up on the run, another

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Speaker 1: deadly listeria outbreak and recall to tell you about this morning,

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Speaker 1: and this one's a sad one. The Centers for Disease

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Speaker 1: Control confirming now that seventeen people have been hospitalized and

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Speaker 1: a second infant has died after eating ready to eat

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Speaker 1: meat poultry products from U Shang Food.

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Speaker 2: These cases have been reported in eight states so far, California, Georgia, Illinois, Nevada,

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Speaker 2: over the place there. The CDC believes the listeria outbreak

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Speaker 2: may be even higher than reported because people who've been

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Speaker 2: then it takes some four weeks to even determine if

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Speaker 2: someone who is sick is part of an outbreak.

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Speaker 1: U Shang Food recalled more than seventy two thousand pounds

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Speaker 1: of It's ready to eat products in late November, and

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Speaker 1: the list of those products is pretty extensive. They're in

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Speaker 1: grocery stores and they're also available online. So if you

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Speaker 1: have any concern about what may be in your fridge,

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Speaker 1: please check out the complete list on the USDA's website.

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Speaker 1: It's far too long to list here, but always, when

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Speaker 2: It's hard to keep up. We've had so many recalls.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure am I supposed to throw out the carrots?

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Speaker 2: There are onions, there was ground beef.

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Speaker 3: There's so many thingss that's supposed to go out.

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Speaker 2: So please, in addition to this, I know it's hard

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Speaker 2: in which we have a microbiologist on talking about all

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Speaker 2: some fifty years, is an expert in food safety, just

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Speaker 2: happens to also be Amy Robot's dad, Micro Robock. But

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Speaker 2: he has great information. Anything you have a question about,

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Speaker 2: really really need you to check that out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a two part podcast. We've got the first

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Speaker 1: one that just dropped today, so please check it out.

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Speaker 1: It actually can be life saving information. Next up on

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Speaker 1: the Run. You soon may be able to call her

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Speaker 1: Ambassador Kimberly Gilfoyle. However, it looks like you may need

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Speaker 1: to stop referring to her as the fiance of Donald

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Speaker 1: Gilfoyle to be US ambassador to Grease just as rumors

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Speaker 2: But Tina Anderson now Gilfoyle was on social media, she

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Speaker 1: In Trump's announcement of her nomination, he notably made no

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Speaker 1: mention of her relationship with his son, simply calling Gilfoyle

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Speaker 1: a close friend and ally Trump Don Junior and Gilfoyle

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Speaker 1: have been dating since twenty eighteen. They got engaged back

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Speaker 2: And she became really a member of the inner circle

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Speaker 2: related to her relationship with donal in some way called

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Speaker 2: it sexist. In fact, that is very sexist in some way,

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll stay with us here on this Wednesday

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Speaker 2: We continue now with the proposed largest grocery store merger,

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Speaker 1: Kroger wants to take over its rival Albertson's in a

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Speaker 2: The Kroger and Albertsons had a different argument. They say

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Speaker 2: I think they're in thirty five states, but they have

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Speaker 2: we know all no Kroger, but that company also runs

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Speaker 3: Smith's grocery stores. Yes, a lot of US.

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Speaker 2: No Albertson's in that company has Safeway in Vond's under it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bigger than you actually think when you start

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Speaker 2: Well, next up on our run here, we're going to

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Speaker 2: turn to the Sandy Hook families, who've now expressed disappointment.

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Speaker 2: After yet another delay in getting Alex Jones to pay up,

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Speaker 1: The far right info Wars was bought at auction by

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Speaker 1: How that will happen, When that will happen now? And

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Speaker 2: He is still using that platform and went on after

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Speaker 3: This is a rare victory.

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Speaker 2: we're going to head to the theaters. Yes, isn't it

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Speaker 2: the worst thing? We know? Those all those little cute

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Speaker 3: They're supposed to be quiet.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like my favorite place to go to a

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Speaker 1: I love that, so yes, if you are ready to

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Speaker 1: Sing along screenings begin on Charristmas Day and run through January.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like something we can do together as a family

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Speaker 3: But it's good to give folks this.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if people are getting that upset

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Speaker 1: I think it is. If it's not something that you

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Speaker 2: Well done though adding the sing alongs, that's really really

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Speaker 1: I chose this one very special just for you, TJ.

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Speaker 1: Here's the quote. Almost everything will work again if you

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Speaker 1: Got three hours and fifteen minutes. You want, you want?

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Speaker 1: You want us tell the folks listening why, Yes.

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Speaker 2: It was a special night because the University of Arkansas

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Speaker 2: It came down to the last second and Arkansas pulled

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Speaker 3: He only says a few minutes. It doesn't say long though, ropes.

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Speaker 2: All right, folks, we appreciate you running with us as always,

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Speaker 2: And again a reminder, we do have a regular episode

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Speaker 2: of Amy and TJ that is up featuring a microbiologist

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Speaker 3: I'm TJ.

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Speaker 1: Holk and I'm Amy Roboch. Thanks for running with us, everyone,