1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: Just about that action all. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Right? Here we go from throwing out so spect we're 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: sitting up to cash touchdown. 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: That's all we see. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Most gamblers when they go to gamble, they go just winning. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: That's incredible. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 3: Big bank, small banks. I like to make money. All right, 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: this is the ultimate kabation you want to and we 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: are underway. 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: And today we have a very special NFL episode, As 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: he does every season, what of Action Network's most obsessive 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: experts scours betting landscape for the twenty twenty five team 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: or teams for that matter, that he's going to be 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: going from worst to first in their respective division everywhere 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: in the in the in. 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: The sports betting content. Face. 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard, Hey Kansas City is going to 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: be pretty good. Hey Buffalo is going to be pretty good. 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: We're not. We're going dumpster diving here. 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: We're going to the bottom here to see who is 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: going to be going from worse to first, who is 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: going to be improved. There are always those teams that 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: were bad last year that end up having really good seasons. 26 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, perfect example, won four games last year or 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: two years ago, and then one twelve this year. But 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: by the way, if you're wondering who this voice is, 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm new Action Network contributor Wes Reynold's been betting on 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: and covering NFL football for more years than I would 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: care to admit, and you'll be hearing me on a 32 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: number of Action shows this upcoming NFL season. But today 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: I'm delighted to be joined by Action Network veteran futures 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: expert Brandon Anderson, who has done a lot of the 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: leg work here on all the divisions, and we're going 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: to go division by division to see if we can 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: find somebody that's going to come from worse to first, 38 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: shall we say so? Brandon, welcome in. I'm excited to 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: be with you. 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, glad to have you here at Action West, Glad 41 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: to get into the division worse to first. This is 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: one of my big ones each fall, when I look 43 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: forward to every year. This, this is our chance. This 44 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: is the island episode we'll be revealing at least my 45 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: first island of the year, hopefully a little better than 46 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: Panthers Island last year. We took water early and never 47 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: quite recovered. But what is the worst to first COUNTSPT 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: pretty simple. But you get a team like you said 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: that last year has, for whatever reason, the season from hell, 50 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: everything goes wrong. Get your top draft pick. We focus 51 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: on all their rookies. Then we spend the whole summer 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 3: writing them off. Nobody wants their fantasy players on their team, right, 53 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's November December and they're 54 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: in the division mix. You win the division, you're hosting 55 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: a playoff game. So since we got to the new 56 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: division format twenty two seasons, we have now the data 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: for it. Nineteen out of those twenty two seasons, eighty 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: six percent we have seen at least one team go 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: worse to first in the division from one year to 60 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: the next. So just check the last decade, just catch 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: you up on some examples. Here twenty sixteen Cowboys, they 62 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: go from four wins to thirteen Rookie Dak Rookie Zeke 63 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: all the way to the top. Twenty seventeen Eagles all 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: the way really to the top seven to nine Super 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: Bowl champions the next year. The year after that, Bears, Texans, 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: then Washington the following year we missed. The year Bengals 67 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: all the way to the Super Bowl off of a Division, 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: last place. Now the fun ones we started writing these up. 69 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: But Action Network twenty twenty two Jacksonville plus eight hundred 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: ticket cashes for US, we go right back to the 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: well in the division. The next year Texans Island. That 72 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 3: was a fun one. If you were along for the 73 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: ride man, that was a sweat and a half and 74 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: then some more sweat. Eleven hundred cashes for US on 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Texans Island. Last year, Wes, you mentioned that Washington was great. 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: They jumped to twelve wins, no division Chargers. They went 77 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: from worse two playoffs, no division, no team went worse 78 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: to first last year. So it is one of those 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: three that didn't happen. But it means we're due, right, 80 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: that's a gambling words. 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 2: We're due for a win. 82 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, last year, Brandon, pretty darn historic year just 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: on a game by game basis for favorites a seventy 84 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: one percent straight up, about fifty three and a half 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: against the number, and especially road favorites. Road favorites last year, 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: if you'd love to bet those, which I historically do not, 87 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: seventy three point four percent and uh and fifty three 88 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: point seven percent. It was a very good year for 89 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: the chalk last year. As you mentioned, no worse to 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: first last year. We'll see if if if Water so 91 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: and so finds its level this season and we get 92 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: a couple of those underdogs get in to the top. 93 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: So since the new division format two thousand and two, 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: we've had twenty nine teams go worse to first, So 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: it's an average of about one point two to six 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: per season. Now, some books you can bet on just 98 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: some team goes worse to first. You don't have to 99 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: pick one, you can just skip the rest of the podcast. 100 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: Don't do that. 101 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna do better today. But you can bet it 102 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: at like a minus something or outd there. Fair odds 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: would be something like minus six hundred, So probably that's 104 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: in our favor. Obviously it did not cash last year. 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: But I'm greedy. I'm on an island team. We're gonna 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: go through Like you said that the dregs of the 107 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: league really the reason these teams finished last We're gonna 108 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: go through a lot of like, oh, this team has 109 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: really improved this year. Yeah, you know why, because they 110 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: sucked last year. They're terrible. You have to be a 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: little better. And we're ranking these as always in tiers 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: how I do them, and we're gonna go from what 113 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: I think is the order of worst bet to best 114 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: bet that you can make, which means at the end 115 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: of the episode, it's Island time. 116 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to go through the drag before we 117 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: get to get to the gold here. So let's go 118 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: ahead and start at Brandon. This is what you grade 119 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: is tier five? No way know how these teams in 120 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: the division that were last last year are going to 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: go to first. And let's go ahead and start in 122 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: the AFC North. Pretty good at the top there with 123 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: obviously we know Baltimore Super Bowl contender Cincinnati. They certainly 124 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: cooked on offense, but they looked cooked on defense. If 125 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: you watch that preseason game the other night against Washington, 126 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: and then the Pittsburgh Steelers just do what they do. 127 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: They've got the voodoo, as our colleague Stucky calls it. 128 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: You know that Tomlin voodoo. They find ways to win. 129 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: They get out yarded, but they forced plus three in 130 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: the turnover margin and somehow win. So that leaves us 131 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. Give us the outlook in seatown bread. 132 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Browns are last for a reason. We don't 133 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 3: have to stay too long on this one. I would say, 134 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: when you're looking for an island, you got to check 135 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: the archipelago first, right, you gotta see what's the surrounding 136 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: look like. Because you're betting on the Browns, you are 137 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: also betting against the Ravens, Bengals and Steelers. 138 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: No, thank you. 139 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: I prefer not to bet against not just one of those. 140 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: The Browns have to beat all three of them to 141 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: win the Division. Of course, Ravens. For me, on my 142 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: number one team, you would argue, and I have argued, 143 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: really that the all three of those teams have a 144 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: top five offense or defense. I think the Ravens connected 145 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: with both of those things. So that's not great news 146 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: for the Browns who have to beat all three of 147 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: those teams. What is the good news for the Browns, Well, 148 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: there's not a lot. I like the defense. I think 149 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: the defense could surprise Miles Garrett as good as anyone 150 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: defensive Jim Schwartz had this unit looking awesome a couple 151 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: of years ago before they completely fell apart last year. 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: I think Mason Graham, the rookie on the line, he 153 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: could stabilize things a little bit. Let Garrett get outside 154 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: the wide nine and just get after the quarterback. They're 155 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: still gonna play offense, unfortunately, and I'm not really sure 156 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: how they're gonna do that. We're gonna, yeah, like over 157 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: under four point five Browns quarterbacks that play like twenty 158 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: snaps this year. I think you got to take the 159 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: over on it. We got like five on the roster, 160 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: not even counting Deshaun Watson, who's just like around. I 161 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: guess we kind of have retread skill players the line 162 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: that used to be so good they got old, man like, 163 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: they're just not what they were anymore. And then, just 164 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: in case you had some hope left, here's the first 165 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: five games for the Browns Bengals Ravens zero and two 166 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: in the division, then Packers, Lions, Vikings. Sounds like going 167 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: five to me, like anything even better than one and 168 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: four would be a stunning outcome. So that this to me, 169 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: I do NFL NBA. Also, this is a tank if 170 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: ever I've seen one like this is a quiet tank 171 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: in the NFL. We're just gonna see what happens here. 172 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: But you do not want to be in on the Browns, 173 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: and frankly, you don't want to be betting against the 174 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: rest of the division. 175 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly very top heavy, and I, like you, am 176 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: very high on our friend Stucky's Baltimore Ravens this year 177 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: to go very very far and perhaps even to the 178 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So Brandon, let's go with another another one 179 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: that you say no way know how, and that's the 180 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: NFC East. And this is a team that I've been 181 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: here in a little bit of buzz about that certainly 182 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: that there's the potential for them to be improved. And 183 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: then you look at the top, of course, the Philadelphia Eagles, 184 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders. Washington, by the way, was like nine 185 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: to two, I believe, in games decided by seven points 186 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: or less last year. So is there regression coming for 187 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: an overachieving Commanders team? Is it coming for Philadelphia? You 188 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: know with that with that Super Bowl hangover? And then 189 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: Dallas there's always drama in Dallas. Who knows what's gonna 190 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: happ And it's been two decades, by the way since 191 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: a division champ has repeated here. 192 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: But do you think that the New York Giants can 193 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: challenge for this division this year? Yeah? 194 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: So the Giants are plus three thousand, so certainly they 195 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: should have our attention a little bit because there's real 196 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: talent here at least again on defense, that defensive line. 197 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: If you're going to be in on the Giants, that 198 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: absolutely is where you're starting. 199 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence. 200 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: If you're in the Giants, you gotta be in on 201 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: him as a defensive Player of the Year candidate. He's 202 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: played as well as anybody for what three years, at 203 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 3: least running now and then get the pass rushers they 204 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: draft Abdul Carter. Now they have him plus Brian Burns 205 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: plus cave On Thibodeau. This defense I rated as number twelve, 206 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: and frankly, I'm a little low on Shane Bohen, the coordinator. 207 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: I'm not a super believer in the guys they add 208 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: in the secondary. If I'm wrong about those things, maybe 209 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: it's the top five defense and maybe you know, we 210 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: get every year. It feels like we talked with the 211 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: Steelers already one or two of those teams where it's like, 212 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, how is this a ten win team? 213 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: It's like there's no offense happening, but the defense, they 214 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: just keep pulling the rabbits out of their hat. 215 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: Don't They always have a good defensive line though, I mean, 216 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: this is this looks like, you know, Strahan and Tuck 217 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: and Kiwi and Ocu Minora. Guene had those guys many 218 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: many years ago. This is a puck into those names. 219 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: This is a really damn good defensive line. 220 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. And you know, Giants fans would remind 221 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: us that two of those really good defensive lines went 222 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: on to win the Super Bowl, even coming out of 223 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: a wild card spot, taking down the Patriots, which you know, 224 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: we can be thankful for one thing at least. Unfortunately, 225 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: those defensive lines can only play half the game, and 226 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: like the Browns, we still have to play offense. And 227 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm not sure the Giants offense we a bunch better 228 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: than the Browns. I had both offenses bottom tier, bottom 229 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: three in the NFL. Now, obviously we got Milik Neighbors. 230 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: He's awesome. I think he's like Tura Owens two point 231 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: zero left tackle Andrew Thomas is a star. But both 232 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: of those dudes cannot stay healthy. And there's nothing on 233 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: this offense outside of those two. And as soon as 234 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: one of those guys goes out, I think this is 235 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: the number thirty two offense with the bullet which is 236 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 3: saying something in a league with the Browns and the Saints, around. 237 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 3: It's ross to start out. It's eventually going to be 238 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: Jackson Dark who frankly has looked pretty good in preseason, 239 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 3: but it's still a rookie. I honestly, I might feel 240 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: better about a Giants bet if I knew Jamis was 241 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: gonna play all year. Just give me the volatility like 242 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: the Bads, but the upside also. I'd rather have the 243 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: upside there. But even if you're kind of into the Giants, 244 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: I think you check the schedule. That's the end because 245 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 3: here's where we go. First four games Washington, Dallas, Kansas City, 246 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: and the Chargers doesn't sound great, but I'll make a 247 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: case if we're in because of the defensive line. Those 248 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: are four beatable offensive lines. Washington's not very good, Dallas 249 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: has lost a lot of their guys. Kansas City, we 250 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: know that that's kind of in flux. The Chargers lost later. 251 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: If you like the Giants, get better like that stretch, 252 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: because soon after that, here's a seven week in a 253 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: row stretch. They have no breaks, no bi weeks. This 254 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: is just back to back to back Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners, Bears, Packers, Lions, 255 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 3: Holy crap, no, thank you. The Giants have to play 256 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: the entire NFC North, the entire AFCU West, and like 257 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: you said, at the top, pretty tough division. They got 258 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: Super Bowl champs Washington their eyes. Heck, Dallas won twelve 259 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: wins three seasons in a row before they fell apart 260 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: last year, so maybe they're in the mix. 261 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: Two. 262 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: Can't get there with the Giants. I like the defensive front, 263 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: but you know, like you said, the gem Men always 264 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: have the defensive front, but you know, not a lot 265 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, so I think we'll pass. 266 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's still a tough division, even though it seems 267 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: like maybe there's regression for teams in front of them. 268 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: But how much regression is is there going to be? 269 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: So time will tell on that. 270 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: Brandon. 271 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: Let's transition to Tier four, which you title maybe if 272 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: you squint, but I can't get there. And the NFC South, 273 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: but both the South divisions really in the NFL, I 274 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: think the saving grace for every Sea team in those 275 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: divisions is it's the South and that seemingly is all 276 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: it is, maybe a little bit more on the AFC side, 277 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: certainly in the NFC side in recent years, but the 278 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints in the NFC South had the distinction 279 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: of being last, even though tied record with Carolina, but 280 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: Saints officially were the last team in the division. And boy, 281 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation doesn't really give you a lot to 282 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: write home about down there on Bourbon Street. 283 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mess. The Saints come in at plus 284 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: sixteen hundred and man. Almost any other team here in 285 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: the NFL, like twenty nine teams, I'd probably have them 286 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: at least like top three in our rankings. Any chance 287 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 3: to bet against the NFC South, I'm in. I have 288 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: all four teams in this division A ranked bottom ten 289 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: in the NFL, including the Bucks because of their injuries 290 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: right now where I'm really worried about them. I ranked 291 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: all the offenses. I ranked all the defenses. Neither team 292 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: or in the division has an offense or defense. It's 293 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: even top half of the league. The only one was 294 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: the Bucks offense. But now Wurfs has hurt, Godwin's hurt, 295 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: McMillan is hurt. They got a tough schedule start the year. 296 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: That path is open, Like you could be three and 297 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: four and leading the division halfway through the season here, 298 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: but it's the Saints. I have the Saints as the 299 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: worst team in the NFL by margin. The offense I 300 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: ranked dead last. There's really no strength on the offense. 301 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: I have the worst quarterback room in the league. Tyler 302 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: Shuck and Spencer Rattler. I'm not high on either guy. 303 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: And if you're Tyler Shuck and you are like fifty 304 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: five years old already and still can't beat out Spencer 305 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: Ratler to win the job, I'm not really optimistic about you. 306 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: The defense, there's talent there, but it's old and has 307 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: been slowly faltering. Now you lose Dennis Allen, they kind 308 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: of get the coaching leftovers out of the cycle. There's 309 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: just not a lot to see here. The Saints open 310 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: the season six of their first seven games against the 311 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: defense I had in my top twelve. So if you're 312 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: the worst offense and you're facing all these great defenses, 313 00:14:59,080 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: that's just not going to go. 314 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: Oh. While I will say this, they. 315 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: Do have, by dv away, the softest schedule in the 316 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: second half of the season, So I can't tell you 317 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: never bet the Saints. Never say never in the NFL. 318 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: We've seen that happen. But again, New Orleans is sixteen 319 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: to one. A team this bad should be like fifty 320 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: to one. To win the division. They're not because the 321 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: NFC South is terrible. So I won't hate you if 322 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: you want to bet on just randomness, and I don't 323 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: want to play on the NFC South. But I think 324 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: you can wait and try that later on, And frankly, 325 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: I might be looking to wait and invest in a 326 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: team like the Buccaneers later on. If they do start slow, 327 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: they're gonna have a pretty soft schedule later on as well. 328 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: I know you are kind of interested in the Panthers 329 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: here technically did tie for a last I don't know 330 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: if I can do Panthers Island again. Man, I did 331 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: it last year and Bryce Young sunk me. We lost 332 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: Derek Brown the first game of the season. What do 333 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: you like about the Panthers this year? 334 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of us. 335 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: Maybe we were a little bit of a year early, 336 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: because of course Dave Canalis came in and we're like, well, 337 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: look at what he did with Baker Mayfield. He finally 338 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: found Baker Mayfield a home there and he had his 339 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: career year. And then what happens Canallis leaves and Liam 340 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Cohen comes in and Baker Mayfield he has even a 341 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: better year in Tampa Bay so you know, maybe I 342 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: gave too much credit to Canalis because I really thought 343 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: that he was going to turn around their fortunes. And 344 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: Bryce Young obviously struggled out of the gate, and then 345 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: you had Andy Dalton in the middle of the season. 346 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: But Bryce Young took back over in week eight. He 347 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: only went four and six in those ten games, but 348 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: you look, the touchdown interception ratio was fifteen to six, 349 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: sixty two percent completion rate. Was able to use his 350 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: legs and run the ball a little bit. Now a 351 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: lot of that, to be fair, Brandon was the short 352 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: passing game. However, he seemed to get like a better 353 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: grasp of this offense. So it's like, and I've never 354 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: really been a huge Bryce Young guy, but it's like, 355 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: maybe there's something here, maybe there's something salvageable. And he's got, 356 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: i think, a pretty solid receiving core with Xavier. We 357 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: get McMillan out of Arizona, the first round pick Adam Thielen, 358 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: so he's got some big targets out there. The backfield, 359 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: you not only have Chewbe Hubbard, but the South Carolina 360 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: product Rico Dwdel who had over a thousand yards last year. 361 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: What I really like about this offense. 362 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: I think this is one of the better offensive line 363 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: groups in the league that doesn't get a lot of 364 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: ink because it's Carolina. They were top ten in yards 365 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: for Carrie, they were top twelve in sack percentage, and 366 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: they made a lot of moves to upgrade this last 367 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: year on the interior Damian Lewis and Robert Hunt, and 368 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I think that that gives a young quarterback a chance. 369 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: When you've got an offensive line that a young quarterback 370 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: that's going to make some mistakes, that's still kind of 371 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. When you have that offensive line, boy, 372 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: that's a good security blanket. But unfortunately, on the other 373 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: side of the trenches, that's really where the weakness is. 374 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: Unless Derek Brown can come back healthy from that injury 375 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: and be a real beast man. This defensive line, I 376 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: thought the defense was really everybody points to the offense. 377 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: I thought the defense was disappointing because I thought everro 378 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: was a solid defensive coordinator in Denver, so I thought, Okay, 379 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: he's going to be good in Carlina. 380 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: They didn't get to the quarterback hardly at all. 381 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: I think, you know, couldn't sack the quarterback couldn't stop 382 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: the run. They got beat five point two yards to carry, 383 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: So this defense could be what holds him back. I'm 384 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: not even as worried about necessarily the offense. Now the 385 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: bye week comes late too. There, I believe Week fourteen, 386 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I want to say, is that bye week. So if 387 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: the young kid young gets off to a slow start, 388 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: you worry a little bit about that. But I just 389 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: look at this division and I think like this is 390 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: maybe the take a shot division because Carolina, you know, Atlanta, 391 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: even though Michael Pennix didn't play at Indiana University, he's 392 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: still essentially a rookie quarterback, you know, as full as 393 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: a full time starter. And Tampa Bay you wonder, you know, 394 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: if just regression is coming. I think they're the default favorite, 395 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: no question about it. And you know, went ten and 396 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: seven early exit in the playoffs, a really good offense 397 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: that that can certainly cook. 398 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: But I think this is division maybe take a shot. 399 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: Like if I was going to take a shot, it 400 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't be New Orleans, it would certainly be with Carolina 401 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: four and a quarter or somewhere in that price range. 402 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. It's 403 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: definitely to me, a division I want to take a 404 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: shot at. I have plenty of doubts on Tampa, as 405 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: heavy a favorite as they are, and with all the injuries, 406 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 3: I really think, I know folks are talking about Tristan Wurfs, 407 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: think about some of the other tackles of his caliber, 408 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: like Trent Williams, Tron Armstead. When that guy goes out, 409 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: the entire offense crumbles around them. Look what happened with 410 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 3: Trent Williams got hurt last year the ninerser every time 411 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 3: he gets hurt, Tron Armstead, he goes out and the 412 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 3: Dolphins can't block anybody, and the offense suddenly. 413 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: Just completely disappears. 414 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: To me, like we did offensive line rankings, the Chargers 415 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: lost Ray Shawn Slater, who is a worse player than 416 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: Tristan Wurfs, and they dropped from top ten to bottom 417 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: ten in my offensive line rankings. I think the Bucks 418 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: healthy are like a top three offensive line, and the 419 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: Bucks healthy with receivers are top seven offense. Last year 420 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 3: they were a top seven offense. They were awesome. And 421 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 3: you mentioned Dave Canalis. I think we have to ding 422 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: him a little bit because Canalis leaves the Bucks and 423 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 3: they got better. They were a better offense under Liam Cohen, 424 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: but he's gone now now it's Josh Grizzard, and we 425 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 3: did see Canallos get some results late with the Panthers. 426 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: So if the Bucks ever get back to what they're 427 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: supposed to be in October November in this division, it 428 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: might still be enough. But I think right now I 429 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 3: don't mind kind of buying low on a team that 430 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: you like, and if you need to, you can buy 431 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: back with the Bucks later on. Maybe just have both 432 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: sides and ride it out. I have been wanting to 433 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: fade the Bucks for years in this division, which means 434 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: I have been losing money betting against the Bucks savision 435 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: because they always find a way at the end. Samolo 436 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: has a tant but you're right. Saints are definitely not 437 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 3: what's going to entice me to wait into the waters 438 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: this year. 439 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be a rough year 440 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: down in New Orleans. So they've got that loud crowd 441 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: in the Dome. Maybe that's enough to steal a game 442 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: because they still have a very good home field advantage, 443 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: but they don't have a very good team on that 444 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: field for that home field advantage. But a team that 445 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: maybe there's a little bit of optimism about I don't 446 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: think this team. You know, living here Brandon, you know 447 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: the team hasn't taken over the town or anything because 448 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: there's a lot of road fans that come here. You know, 449 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: it's it's a tourist destination. It's not like this team 450 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: as I think, you know, built a fan base like 451 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: certainly the Golden Knights did. And it helps that you 452 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: get to the Stanley Cup finals in your first year 453 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: and have won one since. And so it hasn't taken 454 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Las Vegas by storm. But there is a little bit 455 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: more buzz and a little bit more news about the 456 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: Raiders in the AFC West. So tell us what your 457 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: outlook on the Silver and Black. 458 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly there should be some more buzz for 459 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: the Raiders. Finally we made it to a team number 460 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: five on our list. I had to actually make a 461 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: positive case for the team, not just argue against the 462 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: other teams in the division. So the Raiders three things 463 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: you love about them this year is big floor making 464 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 3: floor raising move at running back quarterback coaching. So running 465 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: back were running running backs don't matter, It might matter. 466 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: It turns out when Zimir White is your guy and 467 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: like runs into the line and falls over. Now you 468 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: got Ashton Genty, who's going to be we know already 469 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: almost certainly a great back and in chip Kelly's system. 470 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 3: I mentioned chip Kelly, he comes in to run the offense. 471 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: Did great job at Ohio State. Pete Carroll an awesome coach, 472 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: definitely on the older side, but has had great results 473 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 3: and great with team culture, which the Raiders badly need, 474 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: and great with developing young guys with this team needs 475 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: a lot. And then that quarterback from whatever the mess was, 476 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: They threw it last year to Gino Smith, who I 477 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: had ranked top ten in my quarterbacks this year, which 478 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: I know is a hot take, but I think at 479 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: the very least he is a top half of the 480 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 3: league quarterback. So you have probably bottom three runners quarterbacks 481 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: and coaching staff from a year ago at this time 482 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: to top half of the league at least. 483 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: That's a huge, just floor. 484 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: Raising move on the team that everything has to be 485 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 3: a little better. And in the division there are some 486 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: reasons to doubt. Right all three other teams made the playoffs. 487 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 3: You don't love that as a starting point, but we 488 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 3: know the Chiefs offense regular season at least is sliding 489 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: a little bit. You mention their line, their receivers. There's 490 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 3: some reasons to doubt still the Homes, but we're looking 491 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: here the Chargers. We talked with this later injury. I 492 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: think their defense is really lacking talent. I've been very 493 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: skeptical on the Broncos throughout all the rankings podcasts that 494 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: we've done. I'm down on just, frankly, everything about them 495 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: compared to consensus. The problem with the Raiders is you 496 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: get the floor raising stuff and you get maybe some 497 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: opportunity the division, But what we haven't said is anything 498 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: about the defense. And this defense I think is the 499 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: bottom two defense on paper. I hate to say my 500 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: other one is the Carolina Panthers, but these two teams 501 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: on paper just don't have a lot of talent. And 502 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 3: similar to the Panthers, I like the coordinator, Patrick Graham 503 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: is pretty good, good at his job, and frankly had 504 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: this defense playing pretty well late in the season. Well 505 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: no one cared anymore. But the guys that were playing 506 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: well they're gone now. Robert Spilane gone, Divine, Diablo Gaunt, 507 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: Christian Wilkins, Jack Jones, Trevon Moehrick, they're all gone off 508 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 3: of the team and talent wise, this is not a 509 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: lot left for the Raiders defensively, and even if the 510 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: offense is better, they're still maybe optimistically the third best 511 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: offense in the division. And even if Patrick Graham finds 512 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 3: some defense, they're still maybe optimistically the third best defense 513 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: in the division. Saw even my best scenario have to 514 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: have the third best offense and defense. 515 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: Out of four. 516 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: It's a little too far from me. I will say this. 517 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: I didn't mention the odds at DraftKings. The Raiders are 518 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: plus twenty two hund so twenty two to one. At 519 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: FanDuel they're literally half that at eleven to one. Just 520 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 3: playing the market alone. I don't mind if you nibble 521 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 3: the twenty two to one, just get a little position, 522 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 3: you know. I think this division stays a little more compact. 523 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: You know, for years now the Chiefs just run away 524 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: with it. I don't know that that will happen this year. 525 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: So I don't mind just taking the long play as 526 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: a market play twenty two to one. But it's not 527 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: going to be a team that I can believe too far. 528 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: I believe in their improvement, but division is too big 529 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: of an ask maybe just like an over game to 530 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: game as the way to go with the Raiders. 531 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly improvement. I think definitely with the coaching staff, 532 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll coming out of retirement seeing if he 533 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: can get the silver and Black back as a matter 534 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: of fact, and really for the first time here in 535 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. 536 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: So looking forward to that season, No surprises, folks. 537 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: NFL season, by the way, kicks off in two weeks, 538 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: and to get the most out of the award winning 539 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: Action App, you'll won an Action Pro subscription because only 540 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: Pro subscribers are going to get the real time pick 541 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: alerts from experts like Brandon Anderson, Stuckey, Chris Raybond, Sean Kerner, myself, 542 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: and our entire Action Network team. 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Visit actionnetwork dot 552 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: com slash pro and use the promo code POD twenty 553 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: to get twenty dollars off a year of Action Pro. Brandon, 554 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: we're back here, and let's go to that middle tier 555 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: that you're looking at from worse to first. Perhaps, but 556 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: only if you're going to take on the favorite only 557 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: as a direct bet against the favorite in the division. 558 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: And we know who the favorite is in the AFC South. 559 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: It is the Houston Texans. But like I've said, and 560 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: being an Indianapolis Colts fan, everything you hear. 561 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: How do you feel about your team? 562 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's the AFC South, so it feels like there's 563 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: always a chance, even though Houston's kind of had control 564 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: of this division over the last couple of years, Brandon, 565 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: the team that was at the bottom of this division 566 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: last year under then first year coach Brian Callahan were 567 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, who are at eight to one at 568 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: various shops out there, including Caesars to go ahead and 569 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: win the AFC stuff. So break it down why you 570 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: might have at least some scintilla of optimism about the 571 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. 572 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna start with the optimism, but then I'll 573 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 3: give you some pessimism as well. So it starts with 574 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: the division, of course, because I didn't really need to 575 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: say a whole lot about the Colts and Jaguar just 576 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: not super inspiring. I think a lot of folks are 577 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: not super inspired by the Texans. But maybe the floor 578 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: is a little higher than people think, just because they're 579 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: my number one defense, but I think everyone thinks at 580 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: least the top five type defense. They are a great 581 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: special teams unit year after year with coaching, and then 582 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: the coaching staff has proven to be one of the 583 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: best as well, So I get it. The offense disappointed, 584 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: the offensive line maybe is worse than the league, and 585 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: it could stay live in the division it's been live 586 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: last Coupier is another one here where I want my sleeper. 587 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: I got my Texans Island money, and I've been chasing 588 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: who's going to beat them now? And I lost some 589 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: bets last year chasing. They do play six of their 590 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: first eight games, the Texans against ten win teams from 591 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: last year, ten or more, so I think that alone 592 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: could keep the division live and the Titans are another 593 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: one of those most improved teams in the league. Again, 594 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: when you're terrible, you get to improve a lot, right, 595 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: all right, Well, let me give you some sexy talk 596 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: about offensive line and special teams. Bill Callahan, not Brian, 597 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: Brian's dad, Bill, that's the offensive line guru. So they 598 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: go out and they bring in Dan Moore and Kevin Zeiler, 599 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: just veteran quality, good starters. You get back Senator Lloyd 600 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: Cushion Berry, who's healthy. Again, you already invested a lot 601 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: in the line. This was the worst line in the 602 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: league a couple of years ago. I think they could 603 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: threaten top ten once they get things together, especially once 604 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: Callahan gets his hands on them, so that can rise 605 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: the tide of the offense. Dennard Wilson defensive corner. I 606 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: thought he did a pretty good job last year, even 607 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: with a relatively average group. And then under the radar, 608 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: I think this team could have a monster special teams 609 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: swing in their favor. Last year, the Titans were dead 610 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 3: last and dva special teams. They had impossibly bad punting numbers, 611 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: They were terrible returning kicks. 612 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 2: They knew it. 613 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: They went to Dallas and hired John fossil who's had 614 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: a top ten special teams unit five years in a row. 615 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: That's hard to do. And they got a new punter, 616 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: a new kicker, new kick returners. Everything is gone and 617 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: the starting over. They knew just how bad it was. Historically, 618 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: special teams make up like one eighth of what your 619 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: team's overall rating is. That's not huge, but that's not nothing. 620 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: That's twelve point five percent is one to eighth. And 621 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: if you were literally a negative version of that last 622 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: year and might even be a positive this year, that's 623 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: a huge, huge margin that they can get better. So 624 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: the stuff we don't pay a lot of attention to defense, 625 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: a little bet offensive line and special teams, I can 626 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: get there on the improvement case. Does any of that 627 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: excite you at all about Tennessee? 628 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: I feel like Tennessee might be like last year's Carolina, 629 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: where there were a lot of things to kind of 630 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: like and saying, hey, this division might be there for 631 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: the taking because there's nobody there that really, you know, 632 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: strikes fear in your heart necessarily in the division. But 633 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: we saw that with Carolina last year and you mentioned it. 634 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: I like them as well, and they were a great disappointment, 635 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: and I think maybe that could be Tennessee because this 636 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: is an attackable division because you have Houston, who you know, 637 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: for the aforementioned reasons why there might be some room 638 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: for them to decline a little bit. Jacksonville has a 639 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: new coach. Is this finally the coach in Jacksonville, William 640 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: Cohen that gets it right with Trevor Lawrence where this 641 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: offense can be really productive and if Trevor Lawrence can 642 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: take care of the football, that would certainly help. And 643 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: then Indianapolis, who knows, they have some good weapons on offense, 644 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: but it is Daniel Jones that's gonna be h taking 645 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: the reins there at starting quarterback and not Anthony Richardson. 646 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: So a transition year for the Colts too, with the 647 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: change in ownership, with the sad passing of Jim Mersay, 648 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: and you have a coach and you have a GM 649 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis very much on the hot seat. So I 650 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: understand why maybe that there's a little bit of optimism 651 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: for Tennessee. But you might be right this this this 652 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: might be a year early for them, and maybe it's 653 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: next year. You know that third year, right that third 654 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: year of the of the new regime where where you 655 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: see a lot of that improvement. We'll see what we 656 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: see in the second year. I don't know if I 657 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: can get there. On the Titans, I certainly think that 658 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna have at least some improvement. So I think 659 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: maybe for an overseason wins bet because this is a 660 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: team that I think may struggle, but then they'll keep 661 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: playing hard every single week even if they're long eliminated 662 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: from playoff contention, and they're gonna knock a couple teams 663 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: off late in the season, and that's kind of what 664 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: I perceee for Tennessee, where they leave you with a 665 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: good feeling and then there's the big time optimism for 666 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: year three in the twenty twenty six season. 667 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, And I think even more year 668 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: two of cam Ward, who we haven't talked about yet 669 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: and everyone wants to get excited about the number one pick. Weirdly, 670 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: not a lot of buzz about cam Mord I think 671 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: among recent number one quarterback picks, one of the underdiscussed 672 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: sort of guys. But a caution of betting on Tennessee 673 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: this year. Over the last decade, we've had eight number 674 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: one pick quarterbacks. They averaged three point four wins as rookies. 675 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: Three point four is not a lot of wins saw 676 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: four season eight point three, that's a big jump. But 677 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: those rookie quarterbacks, eight of them, not one has won 678 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: more than six games as a rookie. Even in the 679 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: AFC South, you got to win more than six to 680 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: win the division. Like mathematically, I'm pretty sure he's still 681 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: got to get to seven wins somehow. And then Brian Callahan, 682 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: last year the Titans go two to fifteen against the spread, 683 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: Why does that matter? The spread is changing as the 684 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: games go on in the season. We knew the Titans 685 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: were bad, we kept making the bar lower, and he's 686 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: still kept going under He's like the limbo champion of 687 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: the spread. That if you keep underperforming expectations game after game, 688 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: and that's what the market is telling us. I do 689 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: think that's a real data point. And then last thing here, 690 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: even if you like Tennessee, even if you want to 691 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: invest in the AFC South, Week one, Tennessee goes at Denver. 692 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: That's your debut for your number one quarterback, your new 693 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: offensive line at Denver where nobody wants to play at 694 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: vance Joseph's defense, That aggressive attacking defense against your brand 695 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: new quarterback with no interior protection figuring it out. Yet 696 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: you're going to lose value on your bet right off 697 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: the bat in all likelihood with the likely loss there 698 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: at Houston, I think week three or four. This is 699 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: a team that keep your eye on them. Maybe they 700 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 3: can get there. Maybe it's later in the year. But 701 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 3: similar to the Saints there were sixteen to one, the 702 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: Titans are only eight to one. A team with this 703 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: type of roster should be longer than eight to one, 704 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: but they can't because it's the AFC South. But if 705 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: Houston wins some of these early games, it looks like 706 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: we think they should. Titans lose and look ugly against 707 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 3: Denver and Houston, now you get a better price. Now 708 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: maybe you nibble a little bit later. So I'm not 709 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: ruling Tennessee out. We said a lot of positive things 710 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 3: about them. 711 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: They'll get there. 712 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: I think when in time, I'm not sure, but I 713 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 3: need a better price to find out on them. 714 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: There are some folks out there that think that this 715 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: team is going to get there, and now I don't 716 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: know if it's maybe by default, but that's in the 717 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: AFC East with the new England Patriots at a little over 718 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: six to one, six and a quarter to win this division. 719 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: Now they've got the eight hundred pound gorilla in the 720 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: division with Buffalo, but with not a lot of optimism 721 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: about Miami and the Jets per se New England. You know, 722 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: we've been looking at them and it's like, man, it 723 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: feels like they're overpriced, but there's only one team kind 724 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: of standing in their way maybe in this division. 725 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: Brand Yeah, Unfortunately, it's a gorilla of a team. The 726 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: Josh Allen last five years, thirteen wins, eleven thirteen, eleven thirteen, 727 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 3: So that's what we're looking at. We got to get 728 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 3: to at least eleven wins. Josh Allen virtually guarantees you 729 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: have top three DVA offense unless he's injured. And frankly, 730 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott he's had that high of a floor as well. 731 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: So I'm not really looking for ways to have to 732 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: bet against McDermott and Josh Allen. But unfortunately, that's what 733 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: this whole podcast is about. We have to bet against 734 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: the favorites. Probably a Patriots bet either needs Allen to 735 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: get hurt or you got to beat him, probably twice. 736 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 3: So that's the bet that's where you have to start here. 737 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: But I think there's a lot to like about the 738 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 3: Patriots this year. I think they are one of the 739 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: most improved teams, maybe even more than Tennessee or the Raiders. 740 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 3: They remind me a lot of last year's Commanders. They 741 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 3: use a ton of cap room on floor, raising talent, 742 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: just adding dudes all over the roster. You bring in 743 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 3: the culture changing coach Dan Quinn, Mike Rabel, You're bringing 744 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: the retrade offensive coordinator Cliff Kingsbury, Josh McDaniels. Maybe there's 745 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 3: something there. Maybe they've found some new tricks. Can Drake 746 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: may be Jane Daniels. That sounds crazy. I'm really high 747 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 3: on Drake Man. I have him top of half of 748 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: the league right now. I think by the end of 749 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 3: the season, if things go well, he could be considered 750 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: a top ten, top eight type quarterback for this team. 751 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: And I'm really high on the defense. I had them 752 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 3: top ten in my rankings. I mentioned the guys they 753 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 3: went out signed. Carlton Davis, really good corner with Christian 754 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: Zalez now maybe a top five corner pairing Milton Williams. 755 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 3: We saw him in the playoff run for the Eagles healthy, 756 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: Christian Barmore already on the roster. Great, we're great up 757 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 3: the middle now, Robertsplane, Herold Landry, just more dudes that 758 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 3: are starters and eat up some bad minutes, basically on 759 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: your roster, some bad snaps. We already got all those weapons. Defensively, Jabrill, 760 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 3: Peppery's a lot of other dudes. I think there's a 761 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 3: lot to work with defensively on the roster. The offense, 762 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: they get a long way to go, but they improve too. 763 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: The line is going to start two rookies, so not 764 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: great early, but heck, their line was terrible last year, 765 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: as good as bad as anybody. So they get two 766 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 3: new starters on the left, they get Garrett Bradbury and 767 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: Morgan Moses. They're fine, but fine is better than what 768 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: they've had. So four new starters will take some time 769 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 3: but end up in a better place. You get Trevian Henderson, 770 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: great preseason, buzzy name for him, shooting up fantasy boards. 771 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: Kyle Williams in the third round at receiver, Stefan Diggs 772 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 3: hopefully healthy now again not exactly singing the praises of 773 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 3: this team, but hey, let's not be bottom three in 774 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: skill position. Can we just have some guys? Can we 775 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: be like twenty third rather than thirtieth here? That's kind 776 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: of where the offense goes. So if you like the Patriots, 777 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 3: you gotta buy now. I think, because here's the opening month, Raiders, Dolphins, Steelers, Panthers. Hey, 778 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: I can win those games if I have a top 779 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,479 Speaker 3: ten of defense, if I can figure things out while 780 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: my line is gelling while my young quarterback's getting going, 781 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 3: I could maybe do that. Then they play the Bills, 782 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: and that's your kind of swing point. Obviously on the division, 783 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: the Bills are pretty soft scheduled early on as well. 784 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 3: They played the Ravens Week one, but then they're soft 785 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: throughout honestly, so I think if you want to bet 786 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 3: on the Patriots, it probably would need to be now. 787 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 3: I wanted this one. I wanted Patriots. I'm in on 788 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: the defense. I love Drake May. I do think we 789 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 3: have to remember that even if their last year's commanders 790 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 3: last year's commanders did not go worse to first, they 791 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 3: made the playoffs, they would have lost our bet if 792 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: we bet them. So at six and a quarter, it's 793 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 3: not quite juicy enough. I think this is the one 794 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 3: where a decade ago. The Patriots are terrible, and maybe 795 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 3: they're like a twelve to one, and we're like, oh, 796 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: you know who, I like the Patriots, and I feel 797 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 3: like books have maybe got a little bit ahead on 798 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 3: the Patriots and robbed the value. So I don't see 799 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 3: much value on the number, even if I like the idea. 800 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: So let's go to tier two here, and this one 801 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: I think probably the most obvious one. This is a 802 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: team I'm certainly high on, and for good reason, they 803 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: went It's hard to imagine this team went six and 804 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: eleven last year, but with the amount of injuries that 805 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: they had, not only on the offensive side of the ball, 806 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: but on the defensive side of the ball, they were 807 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: just a bare bones team at the end of the season. 808 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: But we know that this team has a lot of success, 809 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: and it seems like it's almost like every other year 810 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: something goes wrong, this team has injuries or you know, 811 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: something happened, and then the very next year they're one 812 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league. And then maybe 813 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: that's going to happen this year with the San Francisco 814 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. 815 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so not hard to imagine the Niners going worse 816 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: to first they're the favorites in the division right now 817 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 3: by the betting odds, around plus one fifty one sixty 818 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: five at bet MGM is the best number. 819 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 2: I see. 820 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of said what when you say about 821 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 3: the Niners in a lot of ways. They lost so 822 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 3: many injury guys last year, multiple injury games. Let me 823 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 3: just read through the here. At least two games lost 824 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 3: to Brock Purty, Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams, Nick Bosa, Brandon Ayu, Deebo, 825 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 3: Samuel George Kill, Javon Hargrave, Drake Greenlaw, Cherria Sward, Atilo Hufanga. 826 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 3: Eighty three games lost to those guys I just read off, 827 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: most of whom are healthy now now. Not the last 828 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 3: four names on the defense. Those guys are gone. But 829 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 3: are they really a lost to the team when they 830 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 3: barely played last year? Anyway, I'm not sure that they 831 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 3: are healthy this team. If healthy, they're as good as 832 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 3: anybody in the NFC. Kyle Shanahan has made five of 833 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 3: the last nine NFC championships as a coach. He's the 834 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes of the NFC. As I've been saying, now, 835 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 3: they're not healthy already. Unfortunately, Brandon Ayuk not ready yet, 836 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings already hurt, that guard that they found last year, 837 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 3: Dominic Putty already injured in the line, and really only 838 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: the second starter besides Trent Williams that's healthy. And we 839 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 3: know Trent's probably gonna miss a couple games at some point, 840 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey probably go to miss a couple games at 841 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: some point. But if healthy, this team is loaded. I 842 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 3: love Robert Salah coming back to lead the defense. They're 843 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 3: definite weaknesses there at tackle and the secondary, but that's 844 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 3: the name I've been excited about since February when honestly, 845 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 3: this was my first bet of the season forty nine 846 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 3: ors Super Bowl ticket. So that's the case here is 847 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 3: we don't need to sell you on the Niners. I'm 848 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: in last year in we're high on the Niners. Yeah, 849 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 3: I don't think this is the way to bet the Niners. 850 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: I don't think you want. This is kind of like 851 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 3: a median outcome. Frankly, it's not for the other teams 852 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: on here. But if the Niners win the division, that 853 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 3: probably means they're pretty healthy and back to being the Niners. 854 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 3: And if they win the division, you should be betting 855 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 3: more aggressively, and plus one sixty five does not do 856 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: it for me. Now you want an NFC ticket or 857 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 3: Super Bowl ticket, and now you gotta believe in the 858 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 3: long tail high end outcomes. I don't think you want 859 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: to invest in a division ticket. Either it goes wrong 860 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 3: and it's not there, or you get the really good 861 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 3: part at the end. We know the schedule is crazy easy. 862 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: They get to play the whole NFC South in the 863 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 3: AFC South, Thank you very much for those eight games. 864 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 3: We get Saints Jaguars in September, so it probably looks 865 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 3: good early. I will say the run defense was terrible 866 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 3: last year Week one in Seattle, that new Clint Kubiak 867 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,919 Speaker 3: run game that could expose a little bit. You don't 868 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 3: want to bet at a plus one sixty five and 869 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 3: lose to a division rival right out of the gates. 870 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 3: That's killer for a ticket like that. You don't need 871 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 3: that risk. So to me, easy obvious pick. Too boring 872 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 3: for an island. We can't do Niners Island. That's that's 873 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 3: not an island like Niners Nation. There's way too much 874 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: Niners hype. We'll bet them for other things more aggressively, 875 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 3: for high end outcomes. Divisions not the way to go. 876 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that same super Bowl ticket that you 877 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: have on the forty nine ers. I think if you're 878 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: looking at a division bet, like if you're looking for value, 879 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean Okay, this ticket is is going 880 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: to cash, Like there are good bets that don't win. 881 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: I actually think the value in the division is the 882 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. If you're wanting to just totally bet a 883 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: division here here in the West, I think it would 884 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: be Arizona because the Rams look even before the injuried 885 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: to Stafford, I had some concerns a little bit about 886 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: that team, even though I really like their defensive front. 887 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: We were talking about how good the Giants defensive front is, 888 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: so as the Rams, but I. 889 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 2: Was a little I was a little bit concerned about 890 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 2: these guys. 891 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: You have an older quarterback who's now dealing with injuries, 892 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: so I felt like the Rams, and they're still a 893 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: pretty young roster by the way, I think they had 894 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: sixteen rookies on their active rosters, so this is a 895 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: there's not a lot like in the middle. They're either 896 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: older guys like Stafford, or they're really super young guys 897 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: and then plus the travel only second to the Chargers. 898 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,959 Speaker 1: They cross forty four time zones for the last six 899 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: on the road. So I was a little bit down 900 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 1: on the Rams, not saying they can't make the playoffs, 901 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: but I was a little bit down on them for 902 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: the division. But Arizona is a team maybe that they 903 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: could get going. They have a good opportunity to get 904 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 1: off to a good start with three home games against 905 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: non playoff teams road opener in New Orleans also in 906 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: their first five games. So it's gonna be that middle 907 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: that determines. And we saw that last year with Arizona. 908 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: They were right there to maybe make a playoff run 909 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: and then they lose inexplicably to to a Carolina team 910 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: that had really been struggling. So we'll see if they 911 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: start off well again and then sputter at the end. 912 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: But I think, just from a pure value standpoint, Arizona 913 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: in the West, yeah. 914 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 3: I think the Niners are not the way to go 915 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 3: from value and like that's what we're all looking for, 916 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: is not. I don't want a winning ticket. I want 917 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 3: to make some money. I want to get some value 918 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 3: on my ticket and roch to find to win. So 919 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 3: that's where we end up with our Island team kind 920 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 3: of right in the middle there. I'm just gonna jump 921 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 3: into it. I get to reveal my island. Now let's go. 922 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: This is cheer number one, by the way, Yes, cheer 923 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 1: number one Bears Island all aboard Baby plus five Bears. 924 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Van Duel Bet MGM plus five fifty, 925 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 3: get your ticket in. I've long said my two favorite 926 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 3: biggest edges on NFL, especially in futures market, are coaching 927 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 3: an offensive line. So of course I got to be 928 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 3: in on Chicago this season because they have two huge 929 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 3: swings in those areas. The offensive line long a weakness 930 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 3: for the Bears. They go out and get Joe Tooney, 931 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 3: Drew Dolman, Jonah Jackson. Tooney is the best guard in 932 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 3: the league. Drew Dolman top five center. Giving a great 933 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 3: center to a young quarterback, that's huge. Giving a great 934 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 3: center to Ben Johnson who just had one in Frank 935 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 3: greg Now that's huge as well. That goes weakness to strength. 936 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 3: Out of the Bears top five offensive line this season. 937 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 3: And I mentioned his name already and I mentioned in 938 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 3: a few more times. Ben Johnson, the guy that everyone wanted, 939 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 3: not just this coaching cycle, the last like three coaching cycles. 940 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 3: Everyone wanted Ben Johnson. We don't know yet how he 941 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 3: has as a head coach. I admit that we know 942 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 3: how he as a play call He's top three, He's 943 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 3: a good z anybody call on the plays. We get 944 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator Ben Johnson and we get defensive coordinator Dennis Allen. 945 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 3: Love to hire my rejected failed head coaches going back 946 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 3: to the thing they know best, calling plays and leaving 947 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: the other stuff to the other guys. 948 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: Isn't that like a drop in class in horse racing 949 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: right with her when they're in those big stakes race 950 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: and then they go back in the allowances and then 951 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, run like their thoroughbreds. 952 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 3: Exactly, And that the coaching was so bad for this 953 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 3: team last year. We get a rookie quarterback going through 954 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 3: three different play callers in the year the defense disappointed 955 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 3: under eber Flues. Now I think you have what we 956 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 3: don't know the head coach, but just on play calling, 957 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 3: top five combo Ben Johnson Dennis Allen. So that is 958 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 3: a floor razor and a ceiling razer that's rising tied 959 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 3: for the whole team. That's better news for Roma Doonsay, 960 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 3: Dj Moore. I love rookie tight end tight Colston Loveland. 961 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 3: We got Luther Borden, more weapons in the offense. And 962 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 3: of course the better news for Caleb Williams. Now a 963 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 3: bit ago we talked about Cam Moore. Don't bet on 964 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 3: the number one quarterback. Okay, don't bet on the number 965 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 3: one quarterback yet. But in year two, the guy that 966 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 3: won three point four games as a rookie over the 967 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 3: last decade jumps to eight point three one hundred and 968 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 3: forty four percent increase in the wins. Caleb Williams feels 969 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 3: disappointing from last season. He got no blocking, no coaching. 970 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 3: His pet's head was falling off. He won five games. 971 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 3: That's actually pretty good for number one rookie quarterback. It's 972 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 3: only one off the best season in the last decade 973 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 3: for a number one pick quarterback. Five wins at one 974 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 3: hundred and forty four percent increase gets you to twelve 975 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 3: and that might win the division. Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, 976 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 3: Jared goff All number one picks. Those guys as rookies 977 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 3: combined for five wins and then then won the division 978 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 3: the next year. That's what we want Caleb Williams to do. 979 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 3: He got five wins himself. Let's go win the division. 980 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, I think is a force multiplayer for this team. 981 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 3: What I mean is Ben Johnson's play calling makes the 982 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 3: line look better because they're more they're more comfortable. 983 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 2: Great. 984 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 3: The line makes Kleb Williams look better. He's more confident, 985 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 3: he's getting the ball out. Caleb Williams makes the playmakers 986 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 3: look better. They get the ball, they're in the right spot, 987 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 3: they're actually throwing DJ Moore djmore passes rather than whatever 988 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 3: the heck they were doing with them last year, and 989 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 3: everything adds on to itself and gets better. We saw 990 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 3: with the Lions they went from twenty ninth in DVA 991 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 3: offensively to fifth in Ben Johnson's first season calling plays 992 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 3: with them. So why not the Bears get the same 993 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 3: thing as the Lions. Great play from the line, rookie 994 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 3: Ted end, breakout, improve playmaking, and that confident quarterback. That's 995 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 3: the big question. Can they get the quarterback play? And 996 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 3: I haven't said much about the defense, but I think 997 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 3: they have top ten potential as well with Dennis Allen. 998 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 3: They go out and restock the trenches. Grady Jarrett Shamar Turner. 999 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 3: They've already invested a lot in the defensive front. Jalen Johnson, 1000 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 3: I think is a star corner that not a lot 1001 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 3: of people know, but will This year, the Bears ended 1002 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 3: up in my rankings top ten offense, top ten defense. 1003 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 3: Five teams in the NFL did that, the Super Bowl 1004 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: CHAMPI Eagles, the other team that was best in the 1005 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 3: league last year, the Ravens, the Niners, who we just 1006 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 3: talked about, my Vikings, and the Bears. That's a pretty 1007 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 3: good class of teams to be in. If your top 1008 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 3: ten offense and top ten defense, you can win the division. 1009 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 3: I'm all in on the Bears team. What do you think, Brandon? 1010 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: I love the case that you're making here, and especially 1011 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 1: what you mentioned about Ben Johnson. By the way, there's 1012 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: a reason why the Lions, who are certainly very talented, 1013 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: are getting steamed to the under on the season wins. 1014 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: I know I have a ticket on that already, because 1015 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: you're going from Ben Johnson to John Morton as an 1016 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. That is a major dropoff in my opinion 1017 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: for Detroit. So I agree with all the case you 1018 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: made about Caleb Williams development about Ben Johnson about the defense. 1019 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: But the one thing that holds me back on this team. 1020 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: The schedule doesn't look very easy really, up and down 1021 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 1: the lineup. 1022 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, schedule is rough. So let's talk with the schedule. 1023 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 3: So it's Minnesota and Detroit to start. So you can 1024 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 3: make a case like I have on some other teams, 1025 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 3: why now don't invest Now let's let them feel a 1026 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 3: little bit early. 1027 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,720 Speaker 2: Well, bad news. 1028 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 3: The schedule doesn't really get any better. They got to 1029 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 3: play the WHOLEFC North, they gotta play the whole NFC East. However, 1030 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,720 Speaker 3: let's talk this one through. Ever won the division also 1031 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 3: has to play that same schedule. Your schedule is the 1032 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 3: same for fourteen out of seventeen games in the division. 1033 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: The three games that are different. The Bears get the Niners. 1034 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 3: That's unlucky. You got a fourth place team happens to 1035 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 3: be the Niners. But they also get the Saints and 1036 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 3: the Raiders. All right, thanks very much, Detroit. By a reference, 1037 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 3: their three variable games are the Box, the Rams, and 1038 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 3: the Chiefs. No, thank you. I'll take the Saints on 1039 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 3: the Raiders, thanks very much. So the schedule is tough, 1040 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 3: but it's tough for the three teams we have to 1041 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 3: bet against on this one as well. And let's check 1042 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 3: the beginning schedule again. Let's think of it through a 1043 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 3: Bears Lens Vikings. Week one, Monday Night in Chicago. JJ 1044 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,760 Speaker 3: McCarthy is a rookie quarterback, basically first game ever against 1045 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 3: Dennis Allen and their debuting not just McCarthy, but three 1046 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 3: brand new interior linemen, new center, new everything for JJ McCarthy. 1047 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 3: Maybe not so bad for the Bears. Week two the Lions, 1048 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 3: three brand new interior alignments, second week in a row. 1049 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 3: They're missing guys on the d line. Aleem McNeil and 1050 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 3: some of the others are out. They're debuting two new coordinators, 1051 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 3: John Morton and Kelvin Shepard. Great, let's play the Lions 1052 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 3: early while they're pretty weak. Let's let the Bears be 1053 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 3: two to zero in the division and have a huge 1054 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 3: head start early on Week three, Dallas again, two new coordinators, 1055 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 3: new offensive line names, early injuries on that team. Schedule 1056 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 3: isn't alla's who you play, sometimes it's when you play them. 1057 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: And I think actually the schedule is really dune your 1058 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 3: accidentally some favors here. Get past those three games and 1059 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 3: it's Raiders, Commanders, Bears, fans remember that one that did 1060 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 3: not go well last year. They're gonna be robbed for 1061 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 3: that one that was the Hail mary It turned the 1062 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 3: whole season around. 1063 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 2: The Hail Maryland as they say, yes. 1064 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, well that's not what they say around here 1065 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 3: in Chicago. If I may face though, so Raiders, Commanders, 1066 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 3: Saints up next. 1067 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: This team. 1068 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 3: If they win those early division games, so only they're 1069 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 3: four and two, five and one, they're rolling. You could 1070 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 3: actually argue I think that the schedule is why you 1071 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 3: should bet division for Chicago. We're evening the playing field. 1072 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 3: The Vikings, Lions, Packers, they all go to play all 1073 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 3: those tough games as well, just like Chicago. So the 1074 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 3: whole division I have top half of the league offense 1075 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 3: and top half of the league defense. 1076 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1077 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 3: I don't remember every a division like that, but that 1078 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 3: includes Chicago. They're right in the mix. I don't think 1079 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,240 Speaker 3: that they are clearly the best team in the division. 1080 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 3: I think that'd be an insane thing to say. Even 1081 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 3: as high as I am on the t it's a 1082 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 3: really good division. I'm low on the Lions, and I 1083 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 3: still have them like a top twelve team in the league, 1084 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 3: even though they're last in my division, but at the 1085 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 3: Bears right in the mix of things, and the schedule 1086 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,959 Speaker 3: actually breaks right for them out of the gates here 1087 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,760 Speaker 3: and they could be on the front foot Ben Johnson 1088 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,919 Speaker 3: Lee in the way, why not Chicago plus five point 1089 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 3: fifty is a good number for a team as good 1090 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 3: as anyone else in the division. All board, Bearrys Island, 1091 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 3: next stop, playoffs, Let's go. 1092 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: It's It's been a tough time in the Windy City, 1093 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: with the exception of your Cubs this season. As we 1094 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: see that Cubs jersey if you're watching us on video, 1095 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: likely to be in the playoffs. Twub Man hasn't been 1096 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 1: promising for the Bulls or the Blackhawks or the White Socks. 1097 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 1: Chicago is one of the great sports towns in America, 1098 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: and it's especially good when the Monsters are the Midway 1099 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: are performing. So certainly going to be a better team 1100 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: in Chicago. We'll see if they're good enough to go 1101 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: ahead and go from worse to first in that division. 1102 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 1: Like you say, we do have a favorite at the 1103 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: top that we could certainly, I think attack in Detroit. 1104 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: Just some declines in the coaching staff and maybe just 1105 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: some natural regression coming. So you know, what, I'll go 1106 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: aboard Bears Island with you, Brandon. I want to put 1107 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: a ticket. I'm going to put a ticket in on 1108 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: Chicago to go ahead and win and win that division. 1109 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: So excited to get to the season and was excited 1110 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: to talk to Brandon here. So I want to thank 1111 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: to the audience for listening to our NFL Worst to 1112 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: first episode from the Outhouse to the Bent House. We'll 1113 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 1: see if Chicago or any of these teams are going 1114 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: to get there. So thank you Brandon for joining me. 1115 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: Coming up this week, by the way, you're going to 1116 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: see more of Brandon because we got our final NFL 1117 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: preseason episodes. Brandon is breaking down all the position rankings 1118 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: from quarterback to secondary, to offensive line, defensive line, what 1119 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: have you. He's also going to have a pot on 1120 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: his upcoming awards pick, so you definitely don't want to 1121 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: miss that. And also NFL exotics through the upcoming season. 1122 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: So a lot of exciting things, a lot of exciting 1123 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: content coming to Action Network here in a couple of 1124 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 1: weeks that were just two weeks away. 1125 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 2: We've been waiting all summer for. 1126 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: The NFL and now it's finally here. So Brandon, thanks again. 1127 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 1: For joining me and want to wish our audience best 1128 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: of luck on all your bets and we're going to 1129 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 1: see you. 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