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Speaker 1: who can forget again? I'm looking at those already. Derek Brooks,
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Speaker 1: in the national football Like there it is the Daggers
Speaker 1: in where are you Gonna win the Super Bowl? We
Speaker 1: call them the salty Dogs. Hello again everyone out there,
Speaker 1: and welcome to another Salty Dogs podcast. Seeing less Salty
Speaker 1: after two wins in a row. Now, yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking those listeners are probably happy listeners right now. And
Speaker 1: it's not just the holiday season. No, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt that it was Thanksgiving and we had a win
Speaker 1: and then the whole weekend went really really well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very good. We've won. The Buccaneers have their
Speaker 1: games in the last two weeks. Yeah, three out of four.
Speaker 1: That's true. There you go. Yeah, we got a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about from that game, which is nice. I mean, um, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, who are you? We usually do that,
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, I'm just checking well if I remember correct.
Speaker 1: The reason why I say this is because when you're
Speaker 1: on a two game win streak, people are tuning in
Speaker 1: that haven't tuned in before. So I'm pretty sure I'm
Speaker 1: still Scott Smith, and I am Jeff Ryan and and
Speaker 1: welcome since you're gonna welcome to you as well, since
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that to me. Um, I need to
Speaker 1: make sure that you press the record. But it is.
Speaker 1: It's rolling right now, and I have it in front
Speaker 1: of you with the red light on and you can
Speaker 1: see everything. But you told me the red light doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: That's true. But what you want to do is you
Speaker 1: want to look at the count. Well, when you're old,
Speaker 1: that's what you have to do. You just got him
Speaker 1: on all the time. I take them on enough because
Speaker 1: they're reading last. This is a thrilling part of the
Speaker 1: podcast right now. Uh so, Yeah, most recent win is
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville one. If you would say that the most
Speaker 1: complete game the Bucks played was that Atlanta game. I
Speaker 1: would say that all three phases, this one was dominant.
Speaker 1: In certain phases, I would say the first half was
Speaker 1: the best football I've seen in a long, tall, long
Speaker 1: long time. Particularly on defense. Uh Nick Foles really didn't
Speaker 1: have anywhere to throw the ball. He was getting harassed constantly.
Speaker 1: Each of his first three drives ended up with the
Speaker 1: ball in our hands and the Bucks hands, one on
Speaker 1: an interception and two sack fumbles. So that's a great
Speaker 1: way to start a game. And you not only did
Speaker 1: you get turnovers, you got points, which is not always
Speaker 1: the case, and not a field goal we got. We
Speaker 1: were getting touchdowns, so that was every single time. And
Speaker 1: it was actually twenty two points because we went for
Speaker 1: two after they jumped off sides on the extra point.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of a neat rule to rule. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where you get the choose again yeah, uh yeah, And
Speaker 1: you could tell. And then Bruce Arians later confirmed the
Speaker 1: US on Monday that this wasn't just a whim thing
Speaker 1: that because it was like immediate as soon as there
Speaker 1: was that, as soon as there was a penalty, our
Speaker 1: kickers are running off the field and everybody in the
Speaker 1: offense came running back on so and Bruce said, yeah,
Speaker 1: every time it happens, we're gonna go for it. When
Speaker 1: it gets from the two to the one, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go for it. The percentages are better at the one
Speaker 1: than kicking the field goal, which which are the extra point,
Speaker 1: which I like, you know, I just liked it. I
Speaker 1: thought it was good. It doesn't make you wonder I
Speaker 1: learned something though, because I didn't realize that what that, oh,
Speaker 1: that you could do that you get a penalty like that,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's to the one yard line, not
Speaker 1: half the distance. It is interesting how um mentally you
Speaker 1: view those two things because going forward from the two
Speaker 1: yard line, most coaches don't do that. For a few do,
Speaker 1: but most don't do it very often. But all of
Speaker 1: sudden it's at the one, and that's like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: definitely going for it. One yard makes that much of
Speaker 1: a difference. Well, if you only need one, yes, because
Speaker 1: if you need to and you only get one, you're short.
Speaker 1: He's just doing the math for you. Here's why I
Speaker 1: think maybe that that coaches think that way because you
Speaker 1: figure you can try to dive over or bash through
Speaker 1: from one yard and you've you've got a pretty decent
Speaker 1: chance of making it. But that play is harder to
Speaker 1: do from the two. So from the one you have
Speaker 1: more available to you. You the other team has to
Speaker 1: worry more about either run or pass, whereas when you're
Speaker 1: at the two, they're probably thinking mostly pass unless it's
Speaker 1: like a delay. And we actually lined up in a
Speaker 1: shotgun on that play. And I would like to claim,
Speaker 1: and I there's a PR guy sitting next to me,
Speaker 1: that I called the draw. There were two times in
Speaker 1: that game we did a draw play on on a
Speaker 1: short yards play to Peyton Barber. I think the other
Speaker 1: one was a fourth down play. I called it both times, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna run a draw here. Either we are, yeah,
Speaker 1: either you're really really smart or we're tipping our hands.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I don't think you're really smart.
Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing that play before. I walked right
Speaker 1: into that one, didn't I. It's one of those days.
Speaker 1: Continue I I agree Jeff's reason for existence right now
Speaker 1: apparently is to make fun of me, not do a
Speaker 1: podcast about bucket fi ball. Okay, so another thing about
Speaker 1: that game, and that was brought up yesterday, and I
Speaker 1: was really glad it was during Bruce's press conference. It
Speaker 1: was almost over him, like is nobody gonna ask about this?
Speaker 1: And finally Greg Ahman, the intrepid reporter from the Athletic
Speaker 1: who was very thorough so I'm not surprised was him,
Speaker 1: brought up Bradley Pinions sixty three yard punt, which I
Speaker 1: think needs to be getting more attention because that was
Speaker 1: that was probably his best clutch play of the entire year.
Speaker 1: Coach talked about that during his radio show Good You
Speaker 1: often have some good information. He did bring that up,
Speaker 1: that that was a key, that was a turning point.
Speaker 1: He called it the turn. It was yeah, well it
Speaker 1: was yeah, I would say what it was. It took
Speaker 1: a situation where you're still not him, of course, but
Speaker 1: you or me, you're still chewing on your fingernails a
Speaker 1: little bit because even though it was nothing and still
Speaker 1: and you have the ball with about what six minutes left,
Speaker 1: he's still a little nervous right there, right especially when
Speaker 1: they changed quarterbacks, so there's a little momentum. Well the
Speaker 1: stadium all of a sudden, they cared, They got what
Speaker 1: they wanted and apparently they're going to get him going
Speaker 1: forward as well, which is a crazy situation Jacksonville because
Speaker 1: they can't get out of Nick Foles contract next year
Speaker 1: without a huge cap hit. Huge they have to wait
Speaker 1: till afternoon. Could be a whole group of people making
Speaker 1: that decision on who's the quarterback next year. You're saying
Speaker 1: it could be some people that aren't there, could be um,
Speaker 1: which is in a point talking about the Jacksonville is
Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago there in the championship game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's how fast that window closed on Some of
Speaker 1: it I think was a little self inflicted. I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you go from where you were then to
Speaker 1: a defense that no longer has Jalen Ramsey and Telvin Smith.
Speaker 1: Someone decided we're trading him. Well, someone gave in because
Speaker 1: he wanted to be traded. Kelvin Smith retired in the summer,
Speaker 1: and there seemed to be a little animosity there, So
Speaker 1: I don't know. It is crazy, though, how you can
Speaker 1: be that good and then all of a sudden you're
Speaker 1: not not doing so well. It's a razor thin edge.
Speaker 1: You lose a couple of players and culture changes, and
Speaker 1: you know, you try to make the big move. And
Speaker 1: this is not a podcast about the Jaguars'll get off
Speaker 1: this in a second. But you try to pat the
Speaker 1: big move with Nick Foles, because even when they were good,
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles was not really the guy he had. I
Speaker 1: think he had a really good game in the playoffs
Speaker 1: when they went there one game, but they had decided
Speaker 1: that Blake ports was not the answer. So it's a
Speaker 1: big move. And then he broke his shoulder in the
Speaker 1: first week. So but he did. But but the change
Speaker 1: of quarterback did take that stadium from being all you
Speaker 1: could hear with the Buck fans at that point, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the stadium just came alive
Speaker 1: and you could feel I don't know what momentum is,
Speaker 1: but you feel it and you kind of when when yeah,
Speaker 1: there was when they got to eleven, you were like, okay,
Speaker 1: this all of a sudden, this could be one more
Speaker 1: touchdown and you're a one score game. I will say
Speaker 1: though that and I think maybe maybe have been conditioned
Speaker 1: by some tough times. Res only that we probably and
Speaker 1: I'm not putting origin in your mouth, but I can
Speaker 1: tell you I wasn't. The people around with me look
Speaker 1: this way, we probably were a little more nervous about
Speaker 1: it than we really needed. To be, because most teams
Speaker 1: that are in that situation are going to hold them
Speaker 1: off even if we didn't get that great punt. But
Speaker 1: if you take the time and look at how the
Speaker 1: games were lost this year, a lot of games were
Speaker 1: lost in the last five minutes, right, but not a
Speaker 1: lot of them were lost when you had a lead
Speaker 1: to protect. And even if they got the lead was
Speaker 1: there against the Giant It wasn't it was it was
Speaker 1: like it was good. It was a good lead though.
Speaker 1: Uh I guess what I'm saying that is because I've
Speaker 1: mentioned this before, but I read an article called called
Speaker 1: turning point. Every week and you use those win probability
Speaker 1: charts and you see wins the last time it switched
Speaker 1: to our side being likely winner and never went back
Speaker 1: anyway that in this case for a second stary week
Speaker 1: it was a britsh Ide Perriman play was that one
Speaker 1: where we reviewed it and won the challenge. But in
Speaker 1: any case, all throughout that second half, are probability was
Speaker 1: up there around even as they were come back. It
Speaker 1: wasn't dipping because in all the thousands of historical games
Speaker 1: have been played when a team is in that situation,
Speaker 1: even if things get a little Harry, they do end
Speaker 1: up tending to win. So what I'm saying is, in retrospect,
Speaker 1: I probably should have been quite as nervous as I was.
Speaker 1: And you could hear Bruce when he was talking about
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. He was saying he did some good things.
Speaker 1: He basically the main thing was he moved around so well,
Speaker 1: so he was avoiding the sacks that Nick couldn't avoid
Speaker 1: and making some plays off of that. Right, But he said,
Speaker 1: but I mean he was doing some things, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't really worried. I knew we were fine. He I'm
Speaker 1: paraphrasing a little bit, but that's basically what he said, right.
Speaker 1: So he the coaches insilightly have been through this before,
Speaker 1: and no, we don't have to win this game forty
Speaker 1: to nothing, you know, we just have to win the game.
Speaker 1: We are going to win the game. I think it's
Speaker 1: part of also settled down everybody, or it's a different quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's going to make some plays, take a deep breath,
Speaker 1: do what we're supposed to do, and we're gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what happened. And so At was
Speaker 1: trying to give the punter some love, and I need
Speaker 1: to get a chance to know he is he deserves
Speaker 1: so if anybody besides, he's a great guy too, he's
Speaker 1: a really nice guy. If anybody um is unaware of
Speaker 1: what happened, that was in the goal line stand which
Speaker 1: was incredible Sean Murphy Bunting intercepts the past in the
Speaker 1: end zone and then makes a regrettable decision to run
Speaker 1: it out, which he obviously he knew right away, right.
Speaker 1: I mean he knew right after the play because he
Speaker 1: tried to go back in and then then I think
Speaker 1: people like, no, you gotta go, you can't do that now.
Speaker 1: But immediately after the play, I think he understood it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a rookie made a little rookie mistake.
Speaker 1: But he also made a great play, so let's remember that.
Speaker 1: So you're backed up, the offense can't do anything. I
Speaker 1: think they had a false start which made it harder.
Speaker 1: So you're kicking out of the back. You know that
Speaker 1: backed up punt that they practiced. They practiced that once
Speaker 1: a week, and you know you see why because it
Speaker 1: can be critical. Brad. Your putter has his has his
Speaker 1: heels on the back line, so you know, a bad
Speaker 1: snap he might step on the back line. You gotta
Speaker 1: really and plus there's a shorter rush so they might
Speaker 1: get to you for a block, So you really have
Speaker 1: to execute that play well. And generally in those situations,
Speaker 1: like I was thinking, Okay, they're gonna get the ball
Speaker 1: around our forty now and uh, because you could probably
Speaker 1: kick it close to midfield and they'll get like a
Speaker 1: tenure in return. Instead, he blasts the sixty three yard
Speaker 1: and it was high or coverage got down there. It
Speaker 1: equaled his highest punt, longest punt of the entire year.
Speaker 1: And because our coverage was able to get there, they
Speaker 1: drew a couple of penalties, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they're all the way back in their own thirty and
Speaker 1: they never got past the thirty. At that point, they
Speaker 1: had two more they had two more drive. They got
Speaker 1: the ball to thirty and never moved past the thirty.
Speaker 1: They moved backwards and both of their drives. So I
Speaker 1: would say the Bruce called it a turning point. I
Speaker 1: would say was the the last turning point. It was
Speaker 1: the last name on the coffin for the Jaguars. And
Speaker 1: you know, you forget about those little things. But that's
Speaker 1: the difference between winning and losing. Yeah, that can be
Speaker 1: the difference. And that's where you notice good teams make
Speaker 1: that key play. And so I will say on Sunday
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers were a good team. Yeah. Sure, And it's
Speaker 1: two games in a row and there's exciting. But you know,
Speaker 1: as down as you want to be when you're in
Speaker 1: a three game losing streak, you should also be able
Speaker 1: to enjoy a two game winnings. Yeah, and you want
Speaker 1: to pick out the things out of it that you
Speaker 1: think are real. Right, And this is where I say
Speaker 1: to you, what happens if you get to now you
Speaker 1: have a chance to get three There you go, believe
Speaker 1: it or not. Somebody wrote in about you you predicting.
Speaker 1: You were going to say that, Yeah, they'll get the
Speaker 1: question that I'm becoming too predictable. I must stop. But
Speaker 1: here's a note I brought up last week. Remember always
Speaker 1: telling you the third downs, and over a couple of weeks, um,
Speaker 1: we like New Orleans converted six of thirteen something like that,
Speaker 1: or seven or thirteen, but six of seven were one
Speaker 1: to three yards a fewer. Our defense in the last
Speaker 1: five games has been nearly impossible to convert a third
Speaker 1: down on if it's more than six yards nearly impossible.
Speaker 1: One out of thirty four third down tries in the
Speaker 1: last five games they've verted. I find that kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: It is I wouldn't think that seven doesn't isn't. It's
Speaker 1: not easy, but it's not critical, and not all of
Speaker 1: them have been third and seven and still have been
Speaker 1: third and eleven or whatever. But that's impressive. That's that.
Speaker 1: That's showing me that our defense is, as the coach
Speaker 1: was saying, kind of figuring it out. Now, you know
Speaker 1: you have you seen the Mike Dup for this week
Speaker 1: on bucks dot com on Devin White. I intend to
Speaker 1: watch it later today. I already did. It's something to
Speaker 1: really watch. It's it's fun, and it's it's something that
Speaker 1: makes you think where the future is headed. He's clearly
Speaker 1: the future. I have very little, very impressive And what's crazy.
Speaker 1: I actually think he plays too fast at times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you want to try to let
Speaker 1: it know. You can't. You can't, but you'll see how
Speaker 1: fast he is when you do it. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: a if you haven't seen it, it's on Buccaneers dot com.
Speaker 1: It's called Mike Dup. They make up a player every
Speaker 1: week gets some are better than others, guys talking, and
Speaker 1: he does it interesting. Well, I don't want to spoil it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go any further, but you should watch it. Okay,
Speaker 1: But but there's a guy that put out a performance
Speaker 1: and he kind of you could tell right away when
Speaker 1: he got here this year and training him so that
Speaker 1: he was gonna be one of those natural leader types.
Speaker 1: And then even though he's a rookie, he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be a leader pretty soon. But then he got hurt
Speaker 1: right away at the beginning of the year and was
Speaker 1: out for a good month, and as coach with Marian's
Speaker 1: was saying that kind of setting back even in terms
Speaker 1: of the leadership, because you can't really be telling guys
Speaker 1: to do something when you're not out there, right You
Speaker 1: need to be out there. So as he's gotten out
Speaker 1: there and now is the big players are starting to
Speaker 1: happen and people are looking to him, he's showing that
Speaker 1: leadership apparently, and I think he's the guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: be the one. You know, this is a young defense
Speaker 1: and if if the results continue to be something like
Speaker 1: what we've seen in the last two weeks and you
Speaker 1: do have playmakers and your Murphy Bunnies and your Dean's
Speaker 1: and your Carlton davis is and so on. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be the center of all that. The guy I respect
Speaker 1: a lot is is fifty four. Lavonte David and I
Speaker 1: talked to Lavante after the game and just how the
Speaker 1: game went, and we were discussing, uh, Devin White and
Speaker 1: he Lavante said, he's gonna be great. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a great player. I have a lot, Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: what I said to him. But and it's fun. I
Speaker 1: remember when Lavati first came, he hardly talked to you know,
Speaker 1: he was just very very quiet. He's still but if
Speaker 1: you know him, he'll he'll engage in in the lengthy conversations.
Speaker 1: And we were talking before we got on the bus
Speaker 1: and he was just saying how much how much fun
Speaker 1: he is having watching it, and then how all the
Speaker 1: young guys coming together. So Lavant is in his eighth year, right,
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel like an eighth year player. Still very
Speaker 1: youthful in terms of still fast. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of good years left. So that's
Speaker 1: gonna be exciting. And that's that's just it. And how
Speaker 1: much is it? You know, it's fun. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: be the best player on the team, but if other
Speaker 1: guys around you aren't close, then you're just the best
Speaker 1: player on the team. Yeah. But with it all coming
Speaker 1: to other it's becoming more more fun and and and sure,
Speaker 1: you know it's more fun period. It was more fun
Speaker 1: for the fans watching the game. It's all about fun,
Speaker 1: it is at the end of the day. Yes, two
Speaker 1: weeks in a row, uh, the defense has given up
Speaker 1: a big play like right away, like on the first
Speaker 1: couple of plays of the of the other team, And
Speaker 1: that used to be the sign that things were gonna
Speaker 1: go badly all day, that we didn't know what we're doing.
Speaker 1: In both cases, it was three yarder by Jaden Graham
Speaker 1: the tighten in Atlanta, and then the thirty nine yarder
Speaker 1: down the sideline to D. D. Westbrook UH in the
Speaker 1: in the Jacksonville game. And then after that we hardly
Speaker 1: give up any big plays at all, if you consider
Speaker 1: big plays to be ten yard or more rushes and
Speaker 1: twenty or more yard passes. We only gave up three
Speaker 1: more each time. So I always feel better once they
Speaker 1: give it up. It's early, let's go, you know. Let's
Speaker 1: let's get it done. I felt better after the interception
Speaker 1: that into that drive to reach his own there there
Speaker 1: when you when you think about how many sacks there
Speaker 1: were in that game, five by different people, two but
Speaker 1: by different people. The force fumble, the fact that three,
Speaker 1: and the fact that a scoop and score the third
Speaker 1: of the year, Sue getting in there again, he gets
Speaker 1: a score. That's the snow. It was Devin White this
Speaker 1: time was two weeks ago. That's what he did, recover
Speaker 1: a fumble though he just didn't score on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and then the sack. It was funny who
Speaker 1: who got credited? I thought, uh should have got a No.
Speaker 1: We want Vita to have a great career, but every
Speaker 1: sack needs that can be Shack Sack. We would like
Speaker 1: it to stay Shacks, al right, because it was credited
Speaker 1: to Shack. I know it was. I know who it
Speaker 1: was credited. He wrapped him, wrapped him up, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't down yet. But in fairness, he slowed him down,
Speaker 1: he didn't put him down. I'm not saying I would
Speaker 1: have asked for it to be changed if it had
Speaker 1: been ruled differently. Since it was ruled Shack, let's just
Speaker 1: leave it words that. Okay, Well all right, well what
Speaker 1: what what you should say is sometimes after games over
Speaker 1: with coaches, scent tape in and things can get changed. Well,
Speaker 1: and sometimes the last does look by themselves just because
Speaker 1: the review every game there. Every week we get an
Speaker 1: email with stat changes and it's usually like credit the
Speaker 1: tackle on this play to Devin Wide instead of Andrew
Speaker 1: Adams or something. And it's a very small thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and the reason why they do that is they
Speaker 1: can go through it in a slow motion and see
Speaker 1: what's going on where where statisticians at the official statistician
Speaker 1: is someone who lives there is a hired guy and
Speaker 1: done it for a while. Crew, would you like seven right? People? So?
Speaker 1: But um, I thought I thought it was pretty exciting.
Speaker 1: And you know you look at Shack Barrett, well it's amazing. Okay,
Speaker 1: So two games go, um about mid season, JPP came back,
Speaker 1: but then Karl Nassa got hurt. Not long after that
Speaker 1: who got a sack too? But yeah, Karl Nassa came
Speaker 1: back two games ago and in both game since then, Carl,
Speaker 1: Shack and JPP have all had a sack in both
Speaker 1: games they've done so having all three of them out
Speaker 1: there is clearly helping all three of them, and coach
Speaker 1: mentioned that fresh legs. You know, although I still don't
Speaker 1: think Shack and JPP come off the field all that much,
Speaker 1: they can put Carl inside and they can have all
Speaker 1: three of those guys rushing. At the same time, Bruce
Speaker 1: arians made a comment about JPP. He's just a guy
Speaker 1: now just getting out of out of preseason game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said that that, and that that seemed to have
Speaker 1: made a difference. It's pretty remarkable when you think about
Speaker 1: what JPP has gone through. And um, here's another another
Speaker 1: plug for books dot com. Um in the current there's
Speaker 1: a thing last It came out last week. If you
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, see it. It's stuff on it with
Speaker 1: JPP and uh, it's pretty emotional how he talks about
Speaker 1: interesting it is. It is very good. Um and it may.
Speaker 1: I watched it and it made me think, Um, what
Speaker 1: he has gone through and what perseverance is, and how
Speaker 1: you have to as an individual, whatever goes against you
Speaker 1: in life, you have to fight through it because you're
Speaker 1: the one they can get it done. It's pretty pretty good.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't just wait for somebody to save you. Well,
Speaker 1: sometimes you need that. Sometimes you need help, but sometimes
Speaker 1: you need to be You know, you can't help those
Speaker 1: who don't want to help themselves. If you should write
Speaker 1: that down. If you came here for a Bucks podcast,
Speaker 1: you're also getting it self. They're getting whatever. They're getting
Speaker 1: more than they bargained for, paid for a lot more
Speaker 1: than they paid for, maybe twice what they paid for
Speaker 1: this time. And if you recognize the voice on the current,
Speaker 1: it's it's me and um, I'm gonna try a little
Speaker 1: segway here, go ahead. You're the voice on it that
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that piece. I think it's produced by Stephen Lynch.
Speaker 1: It is one of our producers. Well, Stephen, I was
Speaker 1: talking to him today and I had and I'm glad
Speaker 1: he came to me with this because I had noticed
Speaker 1: something in the the play by play that surprised me.
Speaker 1: It's just an interesting thing. It's not that important. At
Speaker 1: the end of the game, Jamis kneeled down three times
Speaker 1: in victory formation to run out the rest of the clock.
Speaker 1: And usually on those plays, when you look at it later,
Speaker 1: you see Jameis Winston loss of one or loss of two,
Speaker 1: sometimes even and it's a sneaky way in which your
Speaker 1: rushing stats get a little bit worse, right, you lose yardage?
Speaker 1: Uh and and Bruce arians has brought that up before,
Speaker 1: and I guess he he and Stephen talked about that
Speaker 1: a little bit. And Um, I had wondered because I
Speaker 1: was looking at that play by plan those last three
Speaker 1: neel downs and it was all kneels down for no gain.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how how did that happen? It's always like
Speaker 1: a negative yard? How do we get away with that?
Speaker 1: Apparently he was taking the snap and taking a big
Speaker 1: step four before kneeling down, and he was getting back
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage, So it wasn't a loss
Speaker 1: of yards. Isn't that great? And so now I wonder.
Speaker 1: So here's I'm tasking you again. When somebody wanted to
Speaker 1: know if Jamis was squinting at the scoreboards because he
Speaker 1: was having problems with his eyes, and and you decided
Speaker 1: to go and ask him, which I didn't think at
Speaker 1: the time was appropriate, but it turned out fine. Now
Speaker 1: you need to go back to Jamison, say did you
Speaker 1: plan that? Were you told to do that? Is that purposeful?
Speaker 1: Are you trying? What are you moving forward to help
Speaker 1: your running backs? Trying to keep your yard. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll do that. It still hurts because that's three carries
Speaker 1: from no yards, so it hurt your average, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt as much as three for native three yards,
Speaker 1: so ask him. Yeah, it'll be interesting because usually you
Speaker 1: step back so no one can get to you. That's
Speaker 1: why you step back, and maybe you normally should do that.
Speaker 1: But we still had a two score lead at that.
Speaker 1: Everytime at that, every time we talk about the step back,
Speaker 1: I always think about the Green Bay game. They playoff
Speaker 1: because of the missfield goal, because of the missfield goals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that Shaun King stepped back too far and not
Speaker 1: not that I remember that, and not that it has
Speaker 1: affected my life at all. And then Martine missed him.
Speaker 1: We ended up being a wild card team going to
Speaker 1: Philly again instead of having the first round. There you go,
Speaker 1: that was unfortunate. Uh so, yeah, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot a lot to be excited about in that game.
Speaker 1: I think it's uh well, Breshad Perry mean there's another
Speaker 1: one career highing yards. Yes, and those were not give
Speaker 1: me catches. That one catch was the one where they
Speaker 1: had to challenge challenge it. I'll admit that in real time.
Speaker 1: It didn't look to me like you got it down
Speaker 1: really the official yeah, real time, we didn't think. And
Speaker 1: then of course you don't want to look at the
Speaker 1: boards when you're on our away game, because they were not.
Speaker 1: They were cutting it short. That was two weeks ago, No,
Speaker 1: that was also here. I thought they did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job in that game that they did. I mean
Speaker 1: there was a couple times in the game whe I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wonder where they're showing that, because that's clearly not
Speaker 1: good for them because there's two versts. Well, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: two versions. They will show a replay. They're replay, but
Speaker 1: once a coach challenge it, they have to show what
Speaker 1: is being shown to the official. It's called their official review.
Speaker 1: They have to show it in the stadium. And that
Speaker 1: is what the officials in New York are looking not at,
Speaker 1: and that is what official there is. And it was
Speaker 1: very clear on the replay. Wasn't even close. I mean
Speaker 1: it was very obviously he did a great job of
Speaker 1: dragging that foot, but he had a couple other nice
Speaker 1: down the field catches and give credit to Jami's two
Speaker 1: A couples were just precise throws where he was not
Speaker 1: badly covered. They were just precise that good stuff stuff. So, um,
Speaker 1: that was nice because it was It was not a
Speaker 1: huge game for either Mike or Chris, which is rare
Speaker 1: for neither of them to have a big game. But
Speaker 1: it just goes to show you how deep we are
Speaker 1: and with wide receivers. Yeah, well if PSH games like
Speaker 1: that were deep, because otherwise we're shallow. Especially with Scotty
Speaker 1: Miller out the hamstring. He was starting to come on
Speaker 1: a little bit right Justin Watson was the fourth receiver,
Speaker 1: but he still really only saw a handful of snaps
Speaker 1: in that game. Another thing that helps O. J. Howard
Speaker 1: having a nice day, which would have been even better
Speaker 1: if he hadn't caught the batted ball and lost six
Speaker 1: yards on a catch on a batted ball, which you're
Speaker 1: gonna do every time something you know something about batted
Speaker 1: balls in the Seattle Minnesota games. You see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't understand. I assumed that what Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: was going to do was batted down, but it didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't at all. Supposedly there Supposedly, if the ball
Speaker 1: comes back to the quarterback, the quarterback is just supposed
Speaker 1: to swat it down right to make it an incomplete path.
Speaker 1: That's the right thing to do, because if you catch
Speaker 1: your But he's a pretty tall guy, pretty strong, and
Speaker 1: he jumped and he Russell Wilson is known for not
Speaker 1: being tall, very tall. He's five he's over five ten,
Speaker 1: right about five ten. That's very short. So there we are.
Speaker 1: Don't tell Drew Brees that Drew Brees is known as
Speaker 1: a short quarterback. Those are guys who are known for
Speaker 1: succeeding that prototype, that tall prototype of the quarterbacks going
Speaker 1: by the way. So I don't think so, Jeff, I
Speaker 1: think you're Kyler Murrays and so on. Their their exceptions
Speaker 1: to the role. I mean, the taller guys have an
Speaker 1: advantage in that regard. The shorter guys have to be very,
Speaker 1: very skilled in other ways, you know, like Drew Brees
Speaker 1: with his incredible decision making, vision ability. If you talked
Speaker 1: to coach Randall l he'll he'll he'll wish that he
Speaker 1: was and now then well he was a quarterback and
Speaker 1: he's going what he could do. No one thought you
Speaker 1: could do that back that Yeah, he I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: another plug. That's on Buccaneers uh Total Access Radio on
Speaker 1: Bruce Arian show. He was he was he was he
Speaker 1: was them he that's that is very good. He is.
Speaker 1: He's very funny. By the way, just another another look
Speaker 1: at me cross plugging like Chris. Yeah, all right, should
Speaker 1: get a sponsor or something here. You'd be good at
Speaker 1: What a shocker that would be. Huh are we good?
Speaker 1: I am? We've we've covered ready. Yeah, let's get let's
Speaker 1: let's get our guest. Yeah, let's do that. That's good
Speaker 1: because the third segment could go a little longer usual
Speaker 1: because we have a lot of questions once alright, alright,
Speaker 1: we'll be back in just a minute with our guest,
Speaker 1: and then the third segment we'll get to your questions
Speaker 1: the Salty Dogs and we're back here on the Salty
Speaker 1: Dogs Podcast. Our second segment, which is always where we
Speaker 1: get a guest in here from the locker room today
Speaker 1: is Preshod Perryman thinks man, this is after practice. I
Speaker 1: know these guys want to get out of here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we appreciate that. But he's smiling right now because he's
Speaker 1: with the Salty Dogs. Why would you first thing I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you before we get into anything else, is
Speaker 1: that Jeff and I have been around here long enough
Speaker 1: to remember when Brett Perryman, your father used to tear
Speaker 1: us out man with all the time, twice a year,
Speaker 1: him and Herman Moore, Yes, and of course Berry Sanders.
Speaker 1: But the yeah, yeah, he was. He was hard on us.
Speaker 1: So when we play the Lions, we need you to
Speaker 1: get revenge for us that you make that that's not good.
Speaker 1: You'll make dead happen. Was it fun growing up and
Speaker 1: watch your dad play? Honest? Did you get to see him?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't remember too much. Okay, when did
Speaker 1: he was? What do you retire around ninety You don't know? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think, well he's the Lions from well then he
Speaker 1: he He was on some other teams too, but with
Speaker 1: the Lions that we noticed, right, kind of a bummer
Speaker 1: that you know, you're a professional fleet and then you
Speaker 1: have a son and you already out of football before
Speaker 1: you get to enjoy it. Or you wanted to be
Speaker 1: the griffeas and get yeah exactly, that would be nice. Uh.
Speaker 1: Speaking of playing the game, you had a big game
Speaker 1: last Sunday in Jacksonville. I think eighty seven yards is
Speaker 1: there right, something like that and the biggest, maybe the
Speaker 1: biggest play of all of them, maybe not the longest
Speaker 1: was that one that they had to challenge to get
Speaker 1: it right where you dragged your toe, which was a
Speaker 1: great play. Did you know you had it? Did you
Speaker 1: say anything to the coach or did he just get
Speaker 1: it from the film. I've been the coach guy in
Speaker 1: from the film. I mean I felt like I was
Speaker 1: in you know, I remember dragging my foot clearly, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, I just let him do what he do.
Speaker 1: It must be a good feeling that when they're showing
Speaker 1: the replays up there and you're seeing an evidence that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it. Yeah, it's really good fitting. Man,
Speaker 1: he didn't weight off his shoulder. Did you did you
Speaker 1: lobby at all or did you just say coach? I
Speaker 1: think I got it on you were on the other sideline. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was on the other sideline, So I think by
Speaker 1: the time I got back to us side and I
Speaker 1: feel like they already had made Yeah. That was big play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it was one of those plays in real time
Speaker 1: we weren't really sure whether it was in or not.
Speaker 1: In real time, it didn't necessarily look like it, which
Speaker 1: is a good thing they have replay. Um, you had
Speaker 1: another long catch down the field. Maybe about thirty yards
Speaker 1: down the sideline and from above it was it was
Speaker 1: a great catch. But also from above we were like, wow,
Speaker 1: that is one amazing thrill by Jamis. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was. I don't know how how does the guy
Speaker 1: do that? Man? That guy, that guy was right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he put it. He put it on the money. Man.
Speaker 1: He put it in a place where only I could
Speaker 1: catch it. Really, it was. It was just beautiful. Are
Speaker 1: you guys sometimes amazed when a quarterback just put it like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even imagine how somebody could locate
Speaker 1: a pass that well. Yeah, definitely. I mean you get
Speaker 1: amazed anytime you get a pass like that. Man, you
Speaker 1: you just gotta really sit back and reflect and be
Speaker 1: thankful that you caught it because it was such a
Speaker 1: good pass. He served me. I saw you to name
Speaker 1: the locker room, open up your cause for my cause,
Speaker 1: Mike leats box. Your shoes were per weren't they? That's here?
Speaker 1: So what did your cause? Stroke awareness? Okay, because of
Speaker 1: your found my dad. Yeah, it looked like it said
Speaker 1: what did it say on the side of looks like
Speaker 1: I said, you have a foundation or something? The foundation
Speaker 1: and that's their main cause. Stroke, trying to raise awardness stroke,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to educate people about because you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people I know, me personally, I didn't
Speaker 1: know too much about it until they really hit home. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we do a lot of things. We um,
Speaker 1: we adopt families, that's been for Christmas. Usually we adopt
Speaker 1: families somebody having a stroke up exactly, and and strokes.
Speaker 1: You know, when people think of strokes, they always think
Speaker 1: it's the elderly, but it's that's not that's not the case. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they called it a sign and kind of to like,
Speaker 1: like my dad, he was healthy, you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: see anything coming, no, nothing at all. Wow. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you told me before he came in here
Speaker 1: that he's he's in some respects he's doing bad. Right,
Speaker 1: it's definitely all right. You guys got four games left,
Speaker 1: and the way coach talks about it, you guys are
Speaker 1: treating this one basically like it's the start of the
Speaker 1: playoffs for you. It's a lie elimination game. But they're
Speaker 1: still belief in there. Yeah, most definitely. Everybody has how
Speaker 1: hopes has high beliefs. Um, we know that this game
Speaker 1: right here in front of us, is you know it's
Speaker 1: really all in Um, it's really all in nothing. Do
Speaker 1: you do you feel a difference where the team's coming
Speaker 1: together like in the beginning of the year to where
Speaker 1: you are now or is it just the same and
Speaker 1: things are happening because less mistakes on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like we always believe in
Speaker 1: one another. I feel like the mistakes definitely have a
Speaker 1: huge part to do it, and I just feel like, um,
Speaker 1: you know this, this is one thing that coach I've
Speaker 1: been talking about a lot this week as well, you know,
Speaker 1: just being way more intentional. You know that it's really
Speaker 1: crunch time now, and you can you can just tell
Speaker 1: you can feel it from you know, everyone in locker room.
Speaker 1: It's the playoff atmosphere. Huh yeah, definitely you in addition
Speaker 1: to you. O. J. Howard had one of his bigger
Speaker 1: games of the season on Sunday, and obviously we on
Speaker 1: the what Chris and Mike have done all year. But
Speaker 1: I gotta believe you guys feel better about it when
Speaker 1: the ball is getting spread around a little bit more
Speaker 1: right and it makes a tougher on the defense. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's all good. You know, we I enjoy seeing
Speaker 1: Chris and might eat his whale. They go off sometimes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they absolutely go crazy, and you know it's just sit back.
Speaker 1: When you're just sitting back and just watching them is
Speaker 1: really fun. So then you know, you really learned a
Speaker 1: lot from those guys. So so it sounds go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, does christopper anything about something we've noticed? It
Speaker 1: seems like he's had about fifteen times this year where
Speaker 1: he gets tackled out around the one or two yard line,
Speaker 1: like he makes great runs after the catch, he's trying
Speaker 1: to get it in the end zone and he's down
Speaker 1: like the one or two You guys talk about that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about it from time to time. Man, we
Speaker 1: know we we gotta we got a new assistance now
Speaker 1: that's trying to you know, not that out of everybody.
Speaker 1: So okay, what you're doing is just you're encouraging him
Speaker 1: to keep going. He still is tied for legally and
Speaker 1: touchdown there is that? Um it sounds like from just
Speaker 1: just our brief conversation here, it sounds like the wide
Speaker 1: receiver rooms pretty tight. Is that a good assessment? Yeah,
Speaker 1: most definitely. We all just want to see each other
Speaker 1: su seed and you know, no matter if we're doing
Speaker 1: good or bad, you know, we just always try to
Speaker 1: be there for one another. And yeah, we're pretty cool,
Speaker 1: have you. Is that something that you've been used to
Speaker 1: and the other teams that you've been on. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're only seven twenty six, so, but you have
Speaker 1: been on other teams, So yeah, in Cleveland. So is
Speaker 1: it the same feeling in every room you've been in
Speaker 1: or is this something special right now? I mean, for
Speaker 1: the most part, you know, whatever team you go to,
Speaker 1: you want to feel that that together is. You want
Speaker 1: to feel like a family. And you know, but some
Speaker 1: teams you're not gonna have more than others. So I
Speaker 1: feel like here it's just a it's it's definitely special.
Speaker 1: You know. We we really the way that we bond
Speaker 1: and we vibe, it's just it's just different. You got
Speaker 1: you've looked like any cults tape yet. Yeah, what what
Speaker 1: do you got to say about their secondary? They look
Speaker 1: they look good. We got we got to work cut
Speaker 1: out for us, but I think we can get a
Speaker 1: job done. Know, I do have to ask this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go back a few weeks in the Seattle game,
Speaker 1: such down I mean, I mean, so kind of walk
Speaker 1: us through that because everyone, you know, everyone sees it,
Speaker 1: but you gotta be paying attention to what's going on,
Speaker 1: so you take it from there. Um who routed a
Speaker 1: half honestly, just I just remember I ran a route,
Speaker 1: I ran my around. I don't remember exactly what my
Speaker 1: route was, but I didn't get the ball. And I've
Speaker 1: seen James starting to scramble, and you know, I was
Speaker 1: just trying to get in his vision, you know, just
Speaker 1: trying to get open and trying to get a separation
Speaker 1: from the dB and I see him through it to
Speaker 1: I don't think it was maybe Mike can c one
Speaker 1: of those even my can ceg. And I just looked
Speaker 1: and I've seen the ball in there. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty close. And it was just like a perfect time.
Speaker 1: That's called not giving up on the play. That's true, right,
Speaker 1: that's true. That was pretty impressive though. That was and
Speaker 1: it was a good, good momentum builder. But you know,
Speaker 1: you see stuff like that and it just shows that
Speaker 1: if you just keep rushing, hustling too the play, something
Speaker 1: good happens. Yeah yeah, ball ball ball, right, Well, appreciate I,
Speaker 1: like I said, man, we really appreciate it's on short notice.
Speaker 1: So um, thanks again. I know you want to get
Speaker 1: out of here, but we appreciate your time. Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me the Salty Dogs. And we're back here
Speaker 1: again on The Salty Dogs Podcast, Week fourteen. We've almost
Speaker 1: we're almost to the finish line. I believe we're in
Speaker 1: December already. I wish it wasn't the finish line, and
Speaker 1: it could possibly not be the finish line. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that in a minute, all right. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say, don't be saying it's I know, but I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta face in terms of the person I am.
Speaker 1: I am facing reality right now. Okay, all right, So
Speaker 1: we have questions this week, alright. A couple are from guys.
Speaker 1: They are guys I believe who have sent us questions before,
Speaker 1: and I think they heard us for me any questions,
Speaker 1: and so they're like, okay, well I'll send them another one.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll pick me again. Show. One of them is
Speaker 1: from I think this guy, this may be the guy
Speaker 1: who's gotten the most questions read a series of and
Speaker 1: it's you'll remember the name. It's Alexander n Cimento from Brazil.
Speaker 1: Oh I wouldn't be that because Brazil is Portuguese. I
Speaker 1: don't know what. I would bet it's something close though,
Speaker 1: like you would think, right, yeah, I bet it's something
Speaker 1: close to see. If not see also, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and then I'll look into that. I would be one
Speaker 1: to bet he'll he'll email me and let me know.
Speaker 1: A Hoy salty ones. Since you guys are not receiving
Speaker 1: lots of questions this past week, I'm here, thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Now that we have stacked them together, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling we are building something for years to come. And
Speaker 1: I would like to know what is our record for
Speaker 1: consecutive wins during a season, and considering multiple seasons, I
Speaker 1: know the answer. I would say the most wins we've
Speaker 1: had consecutively is five. You would be wrong, really, we
Speaker 1: did have five to start seventy nine. We had five
Speaker 1: to start, and I think in one of the um
Speaker 1: Dirk years we had five in a row. At the
Speaker 1: end of the first year we ended up nine and seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there was a five and row stretch and then
Speaker 1: we lost the last two. Six is a record, and
Speaker 1: it was remember how we started let's see one seven
Speaker 1: of our last eight and we finished eleven and five,
Speaker 1: so we would have been four. And that's right. We're
Speaker 1: struggling in October and we were three and five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're struggling in October. And Tony said, quit worrying about
Speaker 1: October and November December. And when you get that's what
Speaker 1: you always remember about it because you say that, but
Speaker 1: only because it happened. Because it happened. And I did
Speaker 1: a radio show with Tony and he would tell me this.
Speaker 1: I know, I get it what I'm saying. What I
Speaker 1: always take away from this when I always remember is
Speaker 1: we lost the game in Hollow right around Halloween in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Um Trent Delford been benched and we were starting Um
Speaker 1: Shawn King no eric'sire Eric Sire Sean King was the
Speaker 1: third quarterback. Okay, xire, Wow, terrible game, I think sorry,
Speaker 1: even got hurt, got destroyed. And the late Tom and Qwin,
Speaker 1: who was still covering the team at the time, said
Speaker 1: this team is not gonna win another game all year. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do remember. And then we promptly won six in
Speaker 1: a row, and then the oak remember the Oakland game.
Speaker 1: We got demolished, and then we want nothing or something,
Speaker 1: so we won like seven out of eight or eight
Speaker 1: out of nine to finish the season after we were
Speaker 1: told we were not gonna win another game and maybe
Speaker 1: NFC Championship. A sidebar to that. Fast forward into the
Speaker 1: two thousand at the Chamber luncheon in Tampa and the
Speaker 1: Tampa Chamber Commerce lunch in a big luncheon with the
Speaker 1: still goes on to this day. Over five hundred people
Speaker 1: whatever are there and Tony Dudg is speaking and he
Speaker 1: goes to the podium and he starts out with while
Speaker 1: someone here said that we would win another game, and
Speaker 1: I and it was great. It is to have dead
Speaker 1: pan Tony. It was terrific. I'm sure Tony wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to really, he was just having fun, having fun with
Speaker 1: you and uh top of you and could take a
Speaker 1: joke to So that was all good icon of the
Speaker 1: area in terms of sports coverage. So UM also, we
Speaker 1: won six games. He asked about crossing seasons. We won
Speaker 1: the last game of ninety six Tony Dungee's first year,
Speaker 1: and then won the first five of nineties seven. So
Speaker 1: that was another six game streak. That's the record. We'd
Speaker 1: like to tie that record even the Yeah, we could,
Speaker 1: we could even the UM. The super Bowl team which
Speaker 1: won twelve and four never won six in a row.
Speaker 1: They went three and one in each quarter of the
Speaker 1: season that year, which was nicely symmetrical. And hey, if
Speaker 1: you can win three out of every four games, you're
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about gonna make the playoffs. You feel
Speaker 1: pretty good about yourself. Uh okay, alright? Uh does he
Speaker 1: ask anything else? Since you did? Thanks for reading p s.
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for you guys doing this show weekly, letting
Speaker 1: us know more about our beloved team and reading fans questions.
Speaker 1: And then he sent back another email. I happened to
Speaker 1: be sitting at my desk when this happened, so I
Speaker 1: saw that these came in pretty quickly. There for another Hey,
Speaker 1: salty ones, I just remembered Mr Still, Jeff Ryan will
Speaker 1: be impossible in this next episode. Tell Mr Still Scott
Speaker 1: Smith that he was absolutely right predicting that for we
Speaker 1: to stack them up, we should get one, then two
Speaker 1: and so on. Thank you very much that he that
Speaker 1: that is an international statement, So there you go. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: that incredibly um difficult to understand. Point that before you
Speaker 1: win too, you have to win one, that's what you're
Speaker 1: trying to and then before you win three. You have
Speaker 1: to win. What I'm what I'm also trying to say
Speaker 1: is when you win one or lose one, then you
Speaker 1: win one or lose two. It's very quickly easy to
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're at four, whether it's winning
Speaker 1: or losing, because it's just all right, the momentum goes
Speaker 1: that word here, Jeff predicted we will win two more
Speaker 1: to oh yeah, we're getting there, We're hitting there. Okay,
Speaker 1: This next one comes from somebody named j J. High
Speaker 1: Salty dogs. Turner. Turnovers always have a huge impact on
Speaker 1: any football game. It seems to be especially the case
Speaker 1: for Tampa Bay games, though unlike NBA games, it seems
Speaker 1: that points game and allowed of turnovers are not really
Speaker 1: kept track of. No, we're talked about I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to stop this right here because I reject that premise
Speaker 1: completely on face. I was just gonna say that's I
Speaker 1: don't know who JJ is listening to. Uh, he probably
Speaker 1: isn't following me on Twitter during games because I tweeted
Speaker 1: about that in the middle of our last game. And
Speaker 1: what j J needs to do is back up because
Speaker 1: we were talking about that in this podcast. You did turnovers,
Speaker 1: not only getting a turnover credit. He wrote this in
Speaker 1: before we started talking about it, so you can't really
Speaker 1: blame him for that. Well, maybe I do wonder what
Speaker 1: does his chart say? Right here, Jeff, Right there, it
Speaker 1: says results from turn every week, I personally have been up,
Speaker 1: have been um updating a chart like this every season since.
Speaker 1: Use that in every broadcast, do you I've been using.
Speaker 1: And if you look at this, I've got the turnovers
Speaker 1: where they happened, what the result was, the points either
Speaker 1: team got, the turnover differential, and also the points differential.
Speaker 1: And the reason I brought this up right in the
Speaker 1: middle of our last game is because even though okay,
Speaker 1: so we went into that game nick of ten in
Speaker 1: turnover differential, which is one of those like twenty nine
Speaker 1: in the league. And you would think, if you're that
Speaker 1: means you've turned the ball over ten more times than
Speaker 1: you've that's just regular turnover ratio turned you've turned it
Speaker 1: over ten more times than you've taken it away. Okay,
Speaker 1: So most teams that would be in that predicament also
Speaker 1: would be in a negative differential in terms of points
Speaker 1: allowed off of turnovers. But we were actually plus one,
Speaker 1: and that's largely because early in the season, we were
Speaker 1: scoring off turners like crazy. I mean in that Rams game,
Speaker 1: five touchdowns off of turnomers. That's that's either you're returning
Speaker 1: for a touchdown like Devin White did, or to drive
Speaker 1: the results from the turnover is a touchdown. Five touch
Speaker 1: ons in the Rams game, so certainly helps your turnover reach. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also you're scoring differential, so we've it's been a
Speaker 1: really weird season for the Buccaneers because the turnover differential
Speaker 1: has been a problem, but we've actually been better than
Speaker 1: our opponents by quite a bit at scoring off turns. First,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, this team has done a great job
Speaker 1: of turning turners into points, and I mean a great
Speaker 1: job because we are number one in the NFL and
Speaker 1: points off turners. For me to be able to look
Speaker 1: that up, obviously somebody's keeping track of it, because this
Speaker 1: sheet right here is only about us, but this is
Speaker 1: in our stat service. I looked it up in two
Speaker 1: seconds because it's an important stat and people know about it.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. I don't know how you got that impression,
Speaker 1: j J. And I don't want it enough NBA to
Speaker 1: know how specific they are, how much they hammer that point.
Speaker 1: But NFL viewers and analysts absolutely keep track of that
Speaker 1: and they know how important it is. So the rest
Speaker 1: of your question goes after Devin White's beautiful country fumble return.
Speaker 1: He remembers that remember when when um Will Golston wasn't
Speaker 1: who told us the difference between a country fumble and
Speaker 1: the city fumble. You know what, He's right, You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't think of that until right now until he
Speaker 1: says that because it was it was there's nobody around me,
Speaker 1: picks up, He dashes for about two steps, and he
Speaker 1: looks around and realizes there's nobody around and even on
Speaker 1: his pick, if he doesn't fall down, he's in. Do
Speaker 1: you think, yeah, you'll see wow. So if if Devin White,
Speaker 1: let's see the country fumble thing, just for anybody who
Speaker 1: doesn't know. After in domin Con Sue had his in
Speaker 1: the Rams game to seal that game. Uh, a writer was,
Speaker 1: you know, telling us all how we were totally wrong
Speaker 1: that he should have just fallen on the ball. You
Speaker 1: have a better better because you can round with the clock.
Speaker 1: Then and we were talking to Will Golston about that.
Speaker 1: He said, well, there's a difference between the city country
Speaker 1: and city fumbled and country fumble. In the city, there's
Speaker 1: always people around you, and the country you're all alone.
Speaker 1: And if you're all alone and everybody's around people, if
Speaker 1: you're in a country, fumble you pick it up and go.
Speaker 1: If you're in the city, you fall on because there's
Speaker 1: so many people around. So I was the country from
Speaker 1: a good job by JJ. Remembering that, I began to
Speaker 1: wonder how turnovers are directly affecting the score of Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay games a lot. I was hoping that you guys
Speaker 1: would have the ability to gather the stats I did
Speaker 1: for this and help me get a better idea of
Speaker 1: what turnovers are really doing to BUCKS games. I don't
Speaker 1: know what their numbers will look like, so sorry if
Speaker 1: this question doesn't really bring up an interesting answer, or
Speaker 1: maybe you can find an interesting trend. Does the offense
Speaker 1: does the defense hold opposing teams to zero or maybe
Speaker 1: three points when the offense turns it over and they
Speaker 1: did a good job of that in the Atlantic game, right,
Speaker 1: or does the offense take advantage when the defense gets
Speaker 1: the ball back? So looking at this chart here, uh,
Speaker 1: we've given the ball away twenty eight times and allowed
Speaker 1: eighty six points off of that, ten of those are
Speaker 1: touchdowns five field goals, so fifteen of the twenty eight
Speaker 1: have resulted in points. So thirte Haven, our opponents have
Speaker 1: scored three point one points perked turnover by us. Now
Speaker 1: we have only had twenty one takeaways, but we have
Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns of two field goals, so sixteen of the
Speaker 1: twenty one drives or return four resulting from turnovers have
Speaker 1: resulted in points, which is very very good. And we
Speaker 1: have five point o points per turnover compared to three
Speaker 1: point one for our opponents. So that's exactly what that
Speaker 1: what JJ was asking for? Good question. Well, I love
Speaker 1: it when I get a question going, Hey, I've got
Speaker 1: a exactly for that. Right you get the show house,
Speaker 1: you have to go to a second page, Jeff here, Wow, Hey,
Speaker 1: S and J. I like that. It's feeling a little
Speaker 1: less salty with two wins. And you said that right
Speaker 1: up top. Yeah, wow, these people are really really good.
Speaker 1: They're paying attention. Always say we better be careful with
Speaker 1: what we say. You know, that makes me feel actually
Speaker 1: actually worse about perpetuating this lie that you couldn't use
Speaker 1: coins in London. Kind of kind people didn't pay along.
Speaker 1: Makes another president would be saying let's not go there. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you put it on a Fox News maybe you've said,
Speaker 1: since you guys, put on a plea for some more questions.
Speaker 1: I saw that the Buck did actually the last game.
Speaker 1: I said, come on, sis, we call that a promo.
Speaker 1: We're promoing how to get how to reach us. I
Speaker 1: think the word plea is okay there, okay. I saw
Speaker 1: that the Bucks were still in the playoff hunt, which
Speaker 1: he put in quote Atia Marsh, which makes me think
Speaker 1: that maybe he doesn't agree that much. What would be
Speaker 1: what would get into the playoffs? Really take see what
Speaker 1: a couple of wins strung together does go Bucks. Here's
Speaker 1: the three in a row, Bobby Munster. We think we've
Speaker 1: had him before to a Bucks fan in l A.
Speaker 1: So what would it take? Listen, what it's gonna take
Speaker 1: is Minnesota losing. We can go through a bunch of scenarios,
Speaker 1: but the key is Minnesota losing, and they did last night,
Speaker 1: which was which was kept us kept our hopes a
Speaker 1: little bit alive there by that happening. So well, we
Speaker 1: can go through the scenario here. It's straight forward and
Speaker 1: um so the best the Bucks can do is nine wins.
Speaker 1: So if you can find if six teams get to
Speaker 1: ten wins, it doesn't matter what we do. Well. San
Speaker 1: fran and New Orleans are already there, so we can't
Speaker 1: get them. Uh, Seattle is already there. That's three teams.
Speaker 1: Green Bay is nine and three. They're gonna get to ten,
Speaker 1: no doubt, probably this week. The The problem is that
Speaker 1: Dallas is only six and six, but either they or
Speaker 1: Adolphia is gonna win the division, so they're in two.
Speaker 1: So that's five teams that we're not gonna catch, right there,
Speaker 1: three tin and two teams, one team that's absolutely gonna
Speaker 1: get TIN and the NFC East winner. So that's that's
Speaker 1: black and white. There's nothing you can do about that
Speaker 1: unless you think Green Bay could possibly lose their last
Speaker 1: four games, beginning this week at home against Washington. And
Speaker 1: I know Washington just beat what Carolina. I would be
Speaker 1: surprised Washington wins in green Bay, right Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: if you have to look at the odds, I would
Speaker 1: say green Bay's good shot. Greenbody is gonna win at
Speaker 1: least one of the least. Yeah. This isn't the nine
Speaker 1: and three two thousand and eight Buccaneers. You got something there? No? Okay? Um?
Speaker 1: So you need. You can't have Minnesota also get to
Speaker 1: ten wins, and they're at eight and four right now,
Speaker 1: so they need to lose three or four games going
Speaker 1: in period. There's simply is no scenario if they don't win,
Speaker 1: if they don't lose three or four games, there isn't
Speaker 1: because they'll be five ten and two teams in the
Speaker 1: NFC Champ NFC East Champ, and we will have nine
Speaker 1: wins if we went out. It's not a difficult picture here.
Speaker 1: It's it's not but there's one thing that has to
Speaker 1: be done. We have to win. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: anybody else does on Sunday. It does matter what everybody
Speaker 1: else does, but if you don't do your job, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. So let's just say the way the schedule
Speaker 1: has worked out. As much as we bemoaned the road
Speaker 1: trips in October, we have a very favorable schedule as
Speaker 1: it played out, which which is fair when you see
Speaker 1: it's the Colts, the Colts, who are a good team.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're hurt and they're banged up. Um, then you
Speaker 1: at Detroit also banged up, but you're on the road
Speaker 1: in Detroit. But the good news the four wins on
Speaker 1: the road. So you can you can say, okay, that's
Speaker 1: a game. If you play your game, you got a shot.
Speaker 1: The Texans Houston's look. It looks really good. They look,
Speaker 1: but they have had a bunch of games that have
Speaker 1: been really polar opposites up and down. Yeah, they've had
Speaker 1: some games. As somebody who's one of his fantasy teams
Speaker 1: was deeply invested in Deshaun Watson, I happen to know
Speaker 1: that there have been weeks where they haven't done anything
Speaker 1: at all. I don't hope it don't sound too bitter there. No, Um,
Speaker 1: So it's a even though I think they're a very
Speaker 1: good team and they just beat the pants off in
Speaker 1: New England, it's not a crazy thought that we would
Speaker 1: beat them, especially because we're playing a lot better. Now,
Speaker 1: Well that's just it. And and then you finished at
Speaker 1: home with them and it what was that noise? Well
Speaker 1: it was a matter of you gotta play the good
Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs anyway. So it doesn't help if
Speaker 1: you can only beat bad if you if you just
Speaker 1: beat the bad teams in December, or you just get
Speaker 1: in and then you do your one and done. Now,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Well you get in up playoffs
Speaker 1: and we were one and done. It's a nice building block.
Speaker 1: It's a really nice building block. Even going even finishing
Speaker 1: this season eight and eight or nine seven won't be
Speaker 1: a nice in building black. It will be like I
Speaker 1: brought up last week, will be like the But you remember,
Speaker 1: you have to go back a little bit. You're just
Speaker 1: remember everybody when when when what the team did do
Speaker 1: was they would go to the playoffs and then they
Speaker 1: wouldn't go very far in the playoffs that everybody was
Speaker 1: mad all the time and every year, right you're you're there,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Now you would now you would love it, well,
Speaker 1: it would be a stepping stone. But that's just it,
Speaker 1: And I mean that's just being a fan. I mean
Speaker 1: in New England right now, they're going nuts. They lost
Speaker 1: a game. They're going nuts, and it's definitely gonna make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. The sky is falling. But but I guess
Speaker 1: that's what it is that you know, you get used
Speaker 1: to it, you want to win, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: hoping no matter what everybody else does. Gosh, I'd love
Speaker 1: to just see us streak on out because it just
Speaker 1: makes me feel really good about next year and I
Speaker 1: want to and I want to feel good about. Uh.
Speaker 1: So there are in addition a few teams. We are
Speaker 1: the best of the three five and seven teams, by
Speaker 1: the way, in terms of yes playoff options, in terms
Speaker 1: of time breakers and so on. Um, but Chicago six
Speaker 1: and six and the Rams or seven and five. So
Speaker 1: even the scenario I drew up with Minnesota losing at
Speaker 1: least three of four, one of these other two teams
Speaker 1: could still mess it up for us. The Rams are
Speaker 1: the The good thing about the Rams is we have
Speaker 1: the head to head win against him, so if we
Speaker 1: catch them, then we have that tie breaker. But but
Speaker 1: before any before you have to worry about the Rams
Speaker 1: or Chicago, you have to get Minnesota. Three losses well,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the things. And you know
Speaker 1: I've said this before. You want to play meaningful games
Speaker 1: in December, and this Sunday is a meaningful game. It's
Speaker 1: meaningful to Indianapolis to the lost to Tennessee really hurt
Speaker 1: their chances, but they're in it, and so that's where
Speaker 1: you want to be. So we had our first game
Speaker 1: in December against Jacksonville and got it done. Now we're
Speaker 1: ready for our second game. And I agree it's good
Speaker 1: that they're meaningful and that they matter. But I also
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to overstate it. You sounds silly
Speaker 1: if you say, you know, this is a critical NFL
Speaker 1: game because we have to win four but lose three,
Speaker 1: and it's probably all of that together. You're you're asking
Speaker 1: for seven of eight games at least to go exactly
Speaker 1: how you want them, and you're probably not gonna get that. No,
Speaker 1: But but this Sunday, this Sunday, I can have fun going.
Speaker 1: This is a very meaningful game, and it's a game
Speaker 1: that Buck fan should come on out and see because
Speaker 1: it's gonna be eighty degrees and sunny. Yes, it's going
Speaker 1: up already. Just I looked at the weather before we came,
Speaker 1: and that's good. But I wouldn't mind seventy or some
Speaker 1: Oh the cults they'll be wilting eighty degrees. They're like,
Speaker 1: what is this? They just got hammered with snow the
Speaker 1: other days, right, I wish we could have a snow game. Um.
Speaker 1: I do have one more question and then we'll be done. Uh.
Speaker 1: We were talking about still trying to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but at some point this season will be over, and
Speaker 1: at that point you'll have to start turning your attention
Speaker 1: to next year and next year's suster. And there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people coming up to be free agents,
Speaker 1: and that this is the question from and this is
Speaker 1: the name I recognized as well, Todd Birchfield of Lake
Speaker 1: PANASOFKI Florida Dogs. If we tag Jamis in the words,
Speaker 1: if we use the franchise tag to take care of
Speaker 1: the fact that Jamis is appending free agents. So that's so,
Speaker 1: don't worry about Jamis. According to this question, we're already
Speaker 1: done with that. Who do you see as the top
Speaker 1: three re signings we need to make? And let me
Speaker 1: run down some of the guys that are all expiring
Speaker 1: contracts and Dominican Sue DeMar Dotson, bo Allen Brashad Perryman,
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett, Jason Pierre, Paul Peyton, Barber Playing Gabbert, Darien Stewart,
Speaker 1: Sam Acho, Karl Nassa, Kevin Mintor where Kim Newonis Roaches
Speaker 1: or A Watford, Josh Wells, Ryan Smith, Andrew Adams. Those
Speaker 1: are all unrestricted free agents. There's some other restricted free
Speaker 1: agents like Antonio Claire and some exclusive rights free agents
Speaker 1: like Tanner Hudson and Mazzi Wilkins. But you don't really
Speaker 1: have to worry about those because you want to keep them.
Speaker 1: It's pretty easy to do so, so it stops here.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm looking at your sheet, and when I
Speaker 1: don't see your sheet, but then when I saw it
Speaker 1: and you started reading, I didn't know what all that was.
Speaker 1: Seventeen guys. It looks like they're going to be unrestricted
Speaker 1: for it, as if if you don't sign him before
Speaker 1: and so he wants us to pick the three we
Speaker 1: would I guess the three you most like to have back.
Speaker 1: I would like to have a lot of these guys back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I mean, doesn't Shack have
Speaker 1: to be the top of your list? You would? You
Speaker 1: would think, you would think, But do you over are you?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I are you worried about this being
Speaker 1: a peak season and then you're going into paying a
Speaker 1: ton for a guy that's you hope sixteen sacks every
Speaker 1: season and that's not gonna be duplicated. There's that concern.
Speaker 1: But I will say, in fairness to shock, he was
Speaker 1: getting around everybody and they changed how they were going
Speaker 1: to play him, and he has figured out a way
Speaker 1: again to get around Pete. No, he's great. And I
Speaker 1: would also point out that Bruce Arians says he doesn't
Speaker 1: think that check is gonna cool off, and he didn't
Speaker 1: just mean the rest of this year. He said he's
Speaker 1: gonna keep up, because he said he said some phrase
Speaker 1: like even when he gets paid, he's gonna keep doing this.
Speaker 1: So Bruce Arians doesn't think that this is a flash
Speaker 1: in the pan or a flukey thing. So I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen, dude. This question isn't forcing
Speaker 1: us to figure out if it works or if we
Speaker 1: can afford him or whatever. Just who do we want?
Speaker 1: This could be the Simion Rice thing that happened because
Speaker 1: when Simeon came here, he did a one year deal.
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? He did a one year deal,
Speaker 1: did really well, and then he got paid. You can
Speaker 1: look it up. I'm going to the later up, but
Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm pretty sure. I want to say it's
Speaker 1: something crazy too, it's something like a million dollars really,
Speaker 1: because I remember that that Monty Kiffin was really really
Speaker 1: wanted to sell Simeon. He told him. His line to
Speaker 1: him was and proved to be true, that you're the
Speaker 1: final piece of the puzzle here. We've got this great defense,
Speaker 1: but you will make it, you will put it over.
Speaker 1: If I remember how this played out, he was pretty
Speaker 1: good player in Arizona, but they were in dispute in
Speaker 1: Arizona and he got mad at them, and we got
Speaker 1: him for a one year deal, and then we did
Speaker 1: it again. So you need to look at up. I'm
Speaker 1: going off a memory, and if I'm wrong, I apologize,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I Well, if you are, then
Speaker 1: this is a that is pretty analogyus. Except the difference
Speaker 1: here is Shack got a one year deal kind of
Speaker 1: like a proved thing. Yes, and that's what semi well.
Speaker 1: Simeon already had like a whole ton of sacks in
Speaker 1: five or six years in Arizona, whereas Scheck, because he
Speaker 1: didn't get a regular rotation role there, sometimes he played
Speaker 1: a lot and sometimes he didn't play as much. To
Speaker 1: that guys like von Miller and Chubb. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I would think that. Well, you may be right,
Speaker 1: I don't remember that now as we're talking about why
Speaker 1: would I think that? But I'm sure it's a matter
Speaker 1: of record somewhere. But yeah, that would be a good
Speaker 1: analogy in this case because he took Shack, took the
Speaker 1: prove it deal and proved it. It's a perfect scenario. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now somebody is going to give him a big
Speaker 1: contract and he deserves it. I hope it's US. I
Speaker 1: like on this list an awful lot in Dominican Sue,
Speaker 1: so do I I just think, even though the stats
Speaker 1: won't blow you away, if you look at the page,
Speaker 1: I think he's played. I think he's had a great season,
Speaker 1: unsung part of why that front has worked so well.
Speaker 1: I think he's had a great influence on Vida Vey.
Speaker 1: I think he had. He was definitely a no nonsense
Speaker 1: like business. Interesting enough, Vita was on the radio last
Speaker 1: night and he was talking about his interaction with in
Speaker 1: Dominican and he calls him big Girl Sue because his
Speaker 1: names Sue or that's what that's what that's what what
Speaker 1: Vita calls him. I guess because his name, last name
Speaker 1: is Sue. Why he just likes messing with him. So
Speaker 1: he called a big girl. So listen to you should.
Speaker 1: It's very very funny. But I guess Vita is one
Speaker 1: of the few people that can afford him mess with him.
Speaker 1: That's what was said. That was that's what Casey said,
Speaker 1: you bean only you mean a three seven found guy
Speaker 1: wouldn't be afraid to call it him, But he said
Speaker 1: that most people don't. In Doma Kin doesn't just go
Speaker 1: out and talk. But if you approach him and have
Speaker 1: a discussion, he's very uh commutative. Yes, he really gets
Speaker 1: into the xs and os and he said it's just
Speaker 1: really solid. So I think, yeah, I think that would
Speaker 1: be a nice one. Now the question would be, is
Speaker 1: in Dominican tired of moving around? He was with Miami
Speaker 1: or with Detroit of course, then he did a multi
Speaker 1: year deal in Miami. He did a one year deal
Speaker 1: in l A. Now he has a one year deal here.
Speaker 1: Is he tired of moving around? And does he go,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna be thirty three is that
Speaker 1: I'm in a state that does in the same draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in a state that has no income tax. I
Speaker 1: might be able to take a little bit less because
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give it to the government and I
Speaker 1: can stay here and help you out. Jeff Ryan doing
Speaker 1: the pitch for him, trying to negotiate a deal here,
Speaker 1: Well done, well done, go up there and um and
Speaker 1: knocking on the door Yeah, yeah, Greeny would love me
Speaker 1: coming in the door. He loved that so And I
Speaker 1: don't mean to to all be in the same position,
Speaker 1: but I'd like to have Karl Nasser. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say that's you've got my three right now, because they
Speaker 1: the coaches really like him and they like what he
Speaker 1: brings in terms of versatility. But also, I mean they
Speaker 1: voted him a captain this year. They didn't. He's another
Speaker 1: guy that that he's he's unique. He has a unique personality. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just he just has a different way of looking
Speaker 1: at the world. I'll go with that. If you saw
Speaker 1: him on hard Knocks when he was then you saw that.
Speaker 1: But he made he made good sense. He made a
Speaker 1: really good sense. Don't spend your money, it makes sense,
Speaker 1: put it in the bank. Compounded interest. I think there's
Speaker 1: a game a guy named Buffett that said something about
Speaker 1: compounded interest. Yeah, but he hasn't done very well that
Speaker 1: at all. He's struggling. My gosh, he's beanie weenies. He's
Speaker 1: he lives in he lives in um Omaha, Nebraska. For
Speaker 1: crying out, because I know that Visas is no longer
Speaker 1: the richest man alive. Oh, he's way up there is
Speaker 1: he top five, He's he's like that has a way
Speaker 1: that hath Away stock is just crazy price and and
Speaker 1: it's real stuff. I mean he and he You know
Speaker 1: when when you talk about you know, Google, what what
Speaker 1: is that? You know? But it's worth six hundred dollars
Speaker 1: of share? So I'm just saying, um, but compounded interest
Speaker 1: makes everything cool. Yes, So I I agree with those three.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a lot of them come back.
Speaker 1: I mean we didn't even say JPP. I guess he's
Speaker 1: he or Shackery or Sue are the oldest of the four.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'll say, you know what I'll
Speaker 1: they think is going to be uh might be interesting.
Speaker 1: As guys get a little a little older, um in
Speaker 1: their careers, they want to win and maybe they may
Speaker 1: be seeing right here right now, take close. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know whether they do or not. The next
Speaker 1: it could tell and then and then next year who's
Speaker 1: back in the reason why man? Other than maybe New England?
Speaker 1: Where can you go and be sure you're gonna win?
Speaker 1: You're not even gonna be everywhere everywhere you go, the
Speaker 1: coaches are gonna and the coaches probably do this sincerely
Speaker 1: and believe it, but they're gonna tell you, hey, we've
Speaker 1: got it here. Next year is the year we're coming in.
Speaker 1: You're one of the final pieces of the puzzle. Um,
Speaker 1: look at Baltimore right now, right now, look at the Rams.
Speaker 1: You'd you'd say, hey, I want to go to the
Speaker 1: Rams A good shot. They're young and they're just beginning
Speaker 1: in this young coach and there are seven and five.
Speaker 1: They're not destitute or anything. No, but they're not the
Speaker 1: powerhouse that they were last You could have gone to
Speaker 1: Atlanta two years ago right after the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: thought you were in on the ground floor, and now
Speaker 1: they're just they're they've fallen apart. Yeah, you just don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: you probably would have thought Philadelphia was gonna win this year,
Speaker 1: right it's hard Carolina, Carolina, I mean we now Chicago, Chicago,
Speaker 1: there's six and Green Bay. They change head coaches, so
Speaker 1: you weren't sure. Minnesota and now they're great. Well they
Speaker 1: were pretty good. Um, yeah, it's it's da I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean you always think Dallas is gonna win and
Speaker 1: all they ever do is not so well, they're still
Speaker 1: probably gonna back into the playoffs. Shot at it terrible, Well,
Speaker 1: they're they're in first place in the division, so they
Speaker 1: definitely have a shot at it. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: that's the last question. But that was a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good. Thanks for all the questions. Any fans who
Speaker 1: want to send us questions, Uh, you can do so
Speaker 1: at by sending an email to Salty Dogs at Buccaneers
Speaker 1: dot NFL dot com. Okay, your assignment for the week
Speaker 1: you're talking to me or the fans you your assignment
Speaker 1: for the assignment? Do you remember? Yes? I do? What
Speaker 1: is it? My assignment is to ask Jameis Winston does
Speaker 1: he go forwards or backwards on purpose? Did he go
Speaker 1: forward on purpose or the reason? And you get an
Speaker 1: assignment to and your assignment is did Simeon Rice come
Speaker 1: here on one year deal? And then well I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go look that up as soon, okay with this podcast,
Speaker 1: So I will have no problem completing that assignment, okay,
Speaker 1: because you can't wait to prove me wrong. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not even that I didn't know that, and it
Speaker 1: would be an interesting thing to know. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny when I when I was saying it, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I was like, why are you saying this,
Speaker 1: but it must it must be so, why are these
Speaker 1: words coming out of my mind? I don't know, Doc,
Speaker 1: Since you did, Thanks for listening. M