WEBVTT - Salty Dogs Podcast with Breshad Perriman 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.040 What do you call two guys that were there when 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 this happened? Back to return at Spurlock Michael Spurlock at 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.239 the chink, He's still the twenty He's the twenty five 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.960 party to the party yearline history, fifty forty, the thirty 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.759 Yardlin Michael Rock, Michael Rock, Michael Run touched out, tap, 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.880 there you go, and then sixty two yard for your 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:30.360 goal attempts it God, God, God, God, box be Eagles, 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:35.479 who can forget again? I'm looking at those already. Derek Brooks, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.680 diready touchdown taml day, Derek Brooks, the lost pariotal player 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.360 in the national football Like there it is the Daggers 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.680 in where are you Gonna win the Super Bowl? We 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.879 call them the salty Dogs. Hello again everyone out there, 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.760 and welcome to another Salty Dogs podcast. Seeing less Salty 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.680 after two wins in a row. Now, yeah, and I'm 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.800 thinking those listeners are probably happy listeners right now. And 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.000 it's not just the holiday season. No, but it doesn't 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:02.880 hurt that it was Thanksgiving and we had a win 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.280 and then the whole weekend went really really well. Yeah, 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:09.640 it was very good. We've won. The Buccaneers have their 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.000 games in the last two weeks. Yeah, three out of four. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.959 That's true. There you go. Yeah, we got a lot 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.720 to talk about from that game, which is nice. I mean, um, oh, 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.840 by the way, who are you? We usually do that, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.520 don't Yeah, I'm just checking well if I remember correct. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.399 The reason why I say this is because when you're 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.320 on a two game win streak, people are tuning in 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.560 that haven't tuned in before. So I'm pretty sure I'm 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.160 still Scott Smith, and I am Jeff Ryan and and 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.400 welcome since you're gonna welcome to you as well, since 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.320 you're gonna do that to me. Um, I need to 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.120 make sure that you press the record. But it is. 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.160 It's rolling right now, and I have it in front 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.200 of you with the red light on and you can 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.280 see everything. But you told me the red light doesn't matter. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.040 That's true. But what you want to do is you 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.320 want to look at the count. Well, when you're old, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.600 that's what you have to do. You just got him 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.520 on all the time. I take them on enough because 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.760 they're reading last. This is a thrilling part of the 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.320 podcast right now. Uh so, Yeah, most recent win is 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:08.280 the Jacksonville one. If you would say that the most 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.560 complete game the Bucks played was that Atlanta game. I 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:15.520 would say that all three phases, this one was dominant. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.160 In certain phases, I would say the first half was 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.440 the best football I've seen in a long, tall, long 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.119 long time. Particularly on defense. Uh Nick Foles really didn't 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.840 have anywhere to throw the ball. He was getting harassed constantly. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.079 Each of his first three drives ended up with the 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.000 ball in our hands and the Bucks hands, one on 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.239 an interception and two sack fumbles. So that's a great 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.160 way to start a game. And you not only did 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.640 you get turnovers, you got points, which is not always 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.800 the case, and not a field goal we got. We 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.640 were getting touchdowns, so that was every single time. And 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.040 it was actually twenty two points because we went for 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.000 two after they jumped off sides on the extra point. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.280 And that's kind of a neat rule to rule. Yeah, 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:57.040 where you get the choose again yeah, uh yeah, And 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.919 you could tell. And then Bruce Arians later confirmed the 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.399 US on Monday that this wasn't just a whim thing 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.480 that because it was like immediate as soon as there 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.040 was that, as soon as there was a penalty, our 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.600 kickers are running off the field and everybody in the 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.040 offense came running back on so and Bruce said, yeah, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.960 every time it happens, we're gonna go for it. When 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:16.360 it gets from the two to the one, we're gonna 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.639 go for it. The percentages are better at the one 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.560 than kicking the field goal, which which are the extra point, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.480 which I like, you know, I just liked it. I 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.359 thought it was good. It doesn't make you wonder I 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.120 learned something though, because I didn't realize that what that, oh, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:30.800 that you could do that you get a penalty like that, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:32.520 and it's and it's to the one yard line, not 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.920 half the distance. It is interesting how um mentally you 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.040 view those two things because going forward from the two 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.840 yard line, most coaches don't do that. For a few do, 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.360 but most don't do it very often. But all of 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.320 sudden it's at the one, and that's like, oh, we're 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.200 definitely going for it. One yard makes that much of 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.720 a difference. Well, if you only need one, yes, because 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.480 if you need to and you only get one, you're short. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.440 He's just doing the math for you. Here's why I 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.920 think maybe that that coaches think that way because you 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:05.560 figure you can try to dive over or bash through 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.480 from one yard and you've you've got a pretty decent 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.760 chance of making it. But that play is harder to 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.120 do from the two. So from the one you have 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.240 more available to you. You the other team has to 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.320 worry more about either run or pass, whereas when you're 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.560 at the two, they're probably thinking mostly pass unless it's 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.240 like a delay. And we actually lined up in a 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.880 shotgun on that play. And I would like to claim, 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:27.880 and I there's a PR guy sitting next to me, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.160 that I called the draw. There were two times in 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.279 that game we did a draw play on on a 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.200 short yards play to Peyton Barber. I think the other 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.520 one was a fourth down play. I called it both times, like, oh, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.159 we're gonna run a draw here. Either we are, yeah, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.920 either you're really really smart or we're tipping our hands. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.080 I don't think so, because I don't think you're really smart. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.919 I don't remember seeing that play before. I walked right 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.880 into that one, didn't I. It's one of those days. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.919 Continue I I agree Jeff's reason for existence right now 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.719 apparently is to make fun of me, not do a 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:03.920 podcast about bucket fi ball. Okay, so another thing about 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.760 that game, and that was brought up yesterday, and I 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.800 was really glad it was during Bruce's press conference. It 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.120 was almost over him, like is nobody gonna ask about this? 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.039 And finally Greg Ahman, the intrepid reporter from the Athletic 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.040 who was very thorough so I'm not surprised was him, 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.159 brought up Bradley Pinions sixty three yard punt, which I 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.640 think needs to be getting more attention because that was 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.240 that was probably his best clutch play of the entire year. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.040 Coach talked about that during his radio show Good You 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.640 often have some good information. He did bring that up, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.120 that that was a key, that was a turning point. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.320 He called it the turn. It was yeah, well it 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.479 was yeah, I would say what it was. It took 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.080 a situation where you're still not him, of course, but 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.960 you or me, you're still chewing on your fingernails a 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.080 little bit because even though it was nothing and still 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.120 and you have the ball with about what six minutes left, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.000 he's still a little nervous right there, right especially when 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:02.560 they changed quarterbacks, so there's a little momentum. Well the 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:06.039 stadium all of a sudden, they cared, They got what 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.560 they wanted and apparently they're going to get him going 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.839 forward as well, which is a crazy situation Jacksonville because 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.840 they can't get out of Nick Foles contract next year 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.080 without a huge cap hit. Huge they have to wait 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.520 till afternoon. Could be a whole group of people making 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.039 that decision on who's the quarterback next year. You're saying 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.320 it could be some people that aren't there, could be um, 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.760 which is in a point talking about the Jacksonville is 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:37.120 just a couple of years ago there in the championship game. Yeah, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:41.960 and that's how fast that window closed on Some of 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.680 it I think was a little self inflicted. I mean, 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.200 how do you go from where you were then to 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.000 a defense that no longer has Jalen Ramsey and Telvin Smith. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.800 Someone decided we're trading him. Well, someone gave in because 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.960 he wanted to be traded. Kelvin Smith retired in the summer, 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.560 and there seemed to be a little animosity there, So 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:02.760 I don't know. It is crazy, though, how you can 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.640 be that good and then all of a sudden you're 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.800 not not doing so well. It's a razor thin edge. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.960 You lose a couple of players and culture changes, and 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.040 you know, you try to make the big move. And 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.040 this is not a podcast about the Jaguars'll get off 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:17.200 this in a second. But you try to pat the 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.320 big move with Nick Foles, because even when they were good, 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.040 Blake Bortles was not really the guy he had. I 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:24.840 think he had a really good game in the playoffs 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.600 when they went there one game, but they had decided 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.400 that Blake ports was not the answer. So it's a 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.360 big move. And then he broke his shoulder in the 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.000 first week. So but he did. But but the change 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.520 of quarterback did take that stadium from being all you 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.360 could hear with the Buck fans at that point, and 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.360 then all of a sudden, the stadium just came alive 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.920 and you could feel I don't know what momentum is, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.320 but you feel it and you kind of when when yeah, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.000 there was when they got to eleven, you were like, okay, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.840 this all of a sudden, this could be one more 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.680 touchdown and you're a one score game. I will say 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.800 though that and I think maybe maybe have been conditioned 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.080 by some tough times. Res only that we probably and 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.720 I'm not putting origin in your mouth, but I can 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.240 tell you I wasn't. The people around with me look 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.840 this way, we probably were a little more nervous about 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.120 it than we really needed. To be, because most teams 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.840 that are in that situation are going to hold them 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.160 off even if we didn't get that great punt. But 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.200 if you take the time and look at how the 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.080 games were lost this year, a lot of games were 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.040 lost in the last five minutes, right, but not a 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.280 lot of them were lost when you had a lead 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.480 to protect. And even if they got the lead was 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:33.800 there against the Giant It wasn't it was it was 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.480 like it was good. It was a good lead though. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.240 Uh I guess what I'm saying that is because I've 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.760 mentioned this before, but I read an article called called 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.800 turning point. Every week and you use those win probability 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.400 charts and you see wins the last time it switched 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.760 to our side being likely winner and never went back 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.640 anyway that in this case for a second stary week 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.319 it was a britsh Ide Perriman play was that one 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.320 where we reviewed it and won the challenge. But in 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:00.719 any case, all throughout that second half, are probability was 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.320 up there around even as they were come back. It 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:07.240 wasn't dipping because in all the thousands of historical games 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.520 have been played when a team is in that situation, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.480 even if things get a little Harry, they do end 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.920 up tending to win. So what I'm saying is, in retrospect, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.520 I probably should have been quite as nervous as I was. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.840 And you could hear Bruce when he was talking about 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.520 Gardner Minshew. He was saying he did some good things. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.640 He basically the main thing was he moved around so well, 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.920 so he was avoiding the sacks that Nick couldn't avoid 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.400 and making some plays off of that. Right, But he said, 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.960 but I mean he was doing some things, but I 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.360 wasn't really worried. I knew we were fine. He I'm 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.000 paraphrasing a little bit, but that's basically what he said, right. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.880 So he the coaches insilightly have been through this before, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.800 and no, we don't have to win this game forty 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.880 to nothing, you know, we just have to win the game. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.600 We are going to win the game. I think it's 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.800 part of also settled down everybody, or it's a different quarterback. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.000 He's going to make some plays, take a deep breath, 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.680 do what we're supposed to do, and we're gonna be okay. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.079 And I think that's what happened. And so At was 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:01.480 trying to give the punter some love, and I need 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.439 to get a chance to know he is he deserves 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.959 so if anybody besides, he's a great guy too, he's 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.160 a really nice guy. If anybody um is unaware of 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.120 what happened, that was in the goal line stand which 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.160 was incredible Sean Murphy Bunting intercepts the past in the 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.600 end zone and then makes a regrettable decision to run 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.319 it out, which he obviously he knew right away, right. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:22.800 I mean he knew right after the play because he 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.520 tried to go back in and then then I think 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.880 people like, no, you gotta go, you can't do that now. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.439 But immediately after the play, I think he understood it. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.439 You know, it's a rookie made a little rookie mistake. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.839 But he also made a great play, so let's remember that. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.559 So you're backed up, the offense can't do anything. I 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.360 think they had a false start which made it harder. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.440 So you're kicking out of the back. You know that 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.800 backed up punt that they practiced. They practiced that once 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.400 a week, and you know you see why because it 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.400 can be critical. Brad. Your putter has his has his 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.800 heels on the back line, so you know, a bad 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.720 snap he might step on the back line. You gotta 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.800 really and plus there's a shorter rush so they might 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.880 get to you for a block, So you really have 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.560 to execute that play well. And generally in those situations, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.120 like I was thinking, Okay, they're gonna get the ball 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.960 around our forty now and uh, because you could probably 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:08.520 kick it close to midfield and they'll get like a 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.000 tenure in return. Instead, he blasts the sixty three yard 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.120 and it was high or coverage got down there. It 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.960 equaled his highest punt, longest punt of the entire year. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.240 And because our coverage was able to get there, they 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:19.959 drew a couple of penalties, and all of a sudden, 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:21.880 they're all the way back in their own thirty and 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.439 they never got past the thirty. At that point, they 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.520 had two more they had two more drive. They got 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.200 the ball to thirty and never moved past the thirty. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.120 They moved backwards and both of their drives. So I 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.000 would say the Bruce called it a turning point. I 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.839 would say was the the last turning point. It was 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.800 the last name on the coffin for the Jaguars. And 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.439 you know, you forget about those little things. But that's 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.760 the difference between winning and losing. Yeah, that can be 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:54.160 the difference. And that's where you notice good teams make 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.360 that key play. And so I will say on Sunday 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.080 the Buccaneers were a good team. Yeah. Sure, And it's 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:07.560 two games in a row and there's exciting. But you know, 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.439 as down as you want to be when you're in 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.080 a three game losing streak, you should also be able 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.160 to enjoy a two game winnings. Yeah, and you want 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.600 to pick out the things out of it that you 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.560 think are real. Right, And this is where I say 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.920 to you, what happens if you get to now you 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.480 have a chance to get three There you go, believe 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.920 it or not. Somebody wrote in about you you predicting. 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.599 You were going to say that, Yeah, they'll get the 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.320 question that I'm becoming too predictable. I must stop. But 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:34.319 here's a note I brought up last week. Remember always 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.200 telling you the third downs, and over a couple of weeks, um, 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.120 we like New Orleans converted six of thirteen something like that, 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.280 or seven or thirteen, but six of seven were one 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.800 to three yards a fewer. Our defense in the last 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.520 five games has been nearly impossible to convert a third 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.760 down on if it's more than six yards nearly impossible. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.960 One out of thirty four third down tries in the 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.520 last five games they've verted. I find that kind of amazing. 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:07.400 It is I wouldn't think that seven doesn't isn't. It's 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.599 not easy, but it's not critical, and not all of 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.200 them have been third and seven and still have been 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.320 third and eleven or whatever. But that's impressive. That's that. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.000 That's showing me that our defense is, as the coach 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.360 was saying, kind of figuring it out. Now, you know 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.880 you have you seen the Mike Dup for this week 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.120 on bucks dot com on Devin White. I intend to 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:29.280 watch it later today. I already did. It's something to 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.480 really watch. It's it's fun, and it's it's something that 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:37.200 makes you think where the future is headed. He's clearly 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:42.960 the future. I have very little, very impressive And what's crazy. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:48.079 I actually think he plays too fast at times. Yeah, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.240 but I don't think you want to try to let 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.880 it know. You can't. You can't, but you'll see how 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.440 fast he is when you do it. Yeah, And it's 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.280 a if you haven't seen it, it's on Buccaneers dot com. 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.760 It's called Mike Dup. They make up a player every 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.960 week gets some are better than others, guys talking, and 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.120 he does it interesting. Well, I don't want to spoil it. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.680 I'm not gonna go any further, but you should watch it. Okay, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.960 But but there's a guy that put out a performance 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.800 and he kind of you could tell right away when 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.560 he got here this year and training him so that 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.280 he was gonna be one of those natural leader types. 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.120 And then even though he's a rookie, he's probably gonna 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.840 be a leader pretty soon. But then he got hurt 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:21.520 right away at the beginning of the year and was 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.080 out for a good month, and as coach with Marian's 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.120 was saying that kind of setting back even in terms 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.840 of the leadership, because you can't really be telling guys 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.120 to do something when you're not out there, right You 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.600 need to be out there. So as he's gotten out 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:34.960 there and now is the big players are starting to 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.400 happen and people are looking to him, he's showing that 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.360 leadership apparently, and I think he's the guy that's gonna 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.280 be the one. You know, this is a young defense 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.440 and if if the results continue to be something like 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.280 what we've seen in the last two weeks and you 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.480 do have playmakers and your Murphy Bunnies and your Dean's 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.520 and your Carlton davis is and so on. He's gonna 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.560 be the center of all that. The guy I respect 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.120 a lot is is fifty four. Lavonte David and I 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.400 talked to Lavante after the game and just how the 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.400 game went, and we were discussing, uh, Devin White and 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.600 he Lavante said, he's gonna be great. He's gonna be 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.000 a great player. I have a lot, Yeah, And that's 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.520 what I said to him. But and it's fun. I 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:18.200 remember when Lavati first came, he hardly talked to you know, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.760 he was just very very quiet. He's still but if 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.880 you know him, he'll he'll engage in in the lengthy conversations. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.080 And we were talking before we got on the bus 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.640 and he was just saying how much how much fun 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.760 he is having watching it, and then how all the 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.320 young guys coming together. So Lavant is in his eighth year, right, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.040 he doesn't feel like an eighth year player. Still very 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.560 youthful in terms of still fast. Yeah, so I think 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.200 he's got a lot of good years left. So that's 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.280 gonna be exciting. And that's that's just it. And how 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.600 much is it? You know, it's fun. Yeah, you can 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.840 be the best player on the team, but if other 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.640 guys around you aren't close, then you're just the best 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.720 player on the team. Yeah. But with it all coming 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.080 to other it's becoming more more fun and and and sure, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.120 you know it's more fun period. It was more fun 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.360 for the fans watching the game. It's all about fun, 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.280 it is at the end of the day. Yes, two 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.480 weeks in a row, uh, the defense has given up 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.560 a big play like right away, like on the first 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.240 couple of plays of the of the other team, And 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.800 that used to be the sign that things were gonna 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.600 go badly all day, that we didn't know what we're doing. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.560 In both cases, it was three yarder by Jaden Graham 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.440 the tighten in Atlanta, and then the thirty nine yarder 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.600 down the sideline to D. D. Westbrook UH in the 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.480 in the Jacksonville game. And then after that we hardly 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.280 give up any big plays at all, if you consider 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.880 big plays to be ten yard or more rushes and 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.960 twenty or more yard passes. We only gave up three 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.560 more each time. So I always feel better once they 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.600 give it up. It's early, let's go, you know. Let's 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.720 let's get it done. I felt better after the interception 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.320 that into that drive to reach his own there there 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.160 when you when you think about how many sacks there 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:05.639 were in that game, five by different people, two but 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.800 by different people. The force fumble, the fact that three, 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.520 and the fact that a scoop and score the third 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:19.000 of the year, Sue getting in there again, he gets 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.639 a score. That's the snow. It was Devin White this 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.520 time was two weeks ago. That's what he did, recover 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.120 a fumble though he just didn't score on it. Yeah, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.200 and then and then the sack. It was funny who 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:37.680 who got credited? I thought, uh should have got a No. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.080 We want Vita to have a great career, but every 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.480 sack needs that can be Shack Sack. We would like 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.480 it to stay Shacks, al right, because it was credited 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.000 to Shack. I know it was. I know who it 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.960 was credited. He wrapped him, wrapped him up, but he 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.800 wasn't down yet. But in fairness, he slowed him down, 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.560 he didn't put him down. I'm not saying I would 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.199 have asked for it to be changed if it had 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.560 been ruled differently. Since it was ruled Shack, let's just 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:04.400 leave it words that. Okay, Well all right, well what 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.720 what what you should say is sometimes after games over 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.720 with coaches, scent tape in and things can get changed. Well, 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.480 and sometimes the last does look by themselves just because 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.840 the review every game there. Every week we get an 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.919 email with stat changes and it's usually like credit the 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.880 tackle on this play to Devin Wide instead of Andrew 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.040 Adams or something. And it's a very small thing. Yeah, 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:26.719 And and the reason why they do that is they 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.000 can go through it in a slow motion and see 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:33.320 what's going on where where statisticians at the official statistician 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.320 is someone who lives there is a hired guy and 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.520 done it for a while. Crew, would you like seven right? People? So? 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.400 But um, I thought I thought it was pretty exciting. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:49.200 And you know you look at Shack Barrett, well it's amazing. Okay, 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:53.760 So two games go, um about mid season, JPP came back, 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.919 but then Karl Nassa got hurt. Not long after that 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.199 who got a sack too? But yeah, Karl Nassa came 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.000 back two games ago and in both game since then, Carl, 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.720 Shack and JPP have all had a sack in both 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.199 games they've done so having all three of them out 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.840 there is clearly helping all three of them, and coach 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.040 mentioned that fresh legs. You know, although I still don't 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.120