1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:09,788 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:11,108 --> 00:00:13,588 Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football, everybody. We are presented by 4 00:00:13,668 --> 00:00:15,308 Speaker 2: our favorite meat in the bag is I like to 5 00:00:15,348 --> 00:00:19,548 Speaker 2: affectionately call them Old Trapper Beef Jerkey. It's Tuesday, September ninth. 6 00:00:19,908 --> 00:00:22,788 Speaker 2: We are in La Mansie and myself jamieard All and 7 00:00:22,948 --> 00:00:27,108 Speaker 2: in New York is Kyle Brandt and Willie Cologne. Kyle 8 00:00:27,148 --> 00:00:29,788 Speaker 2: Brant just handed out his angry run scepter last week. 9 00:00:29,828 --> 00:00:31,508 Speaker 3: He is in changed a T shirt. 10 00:00:31,508 --> 00:00:34,068 Speaker 2: Perhaps he's classy, but he's also got a highlight in 11 00:00:34,108 --> 00:00:34,388 Speaker 2: his hand. 12 00:00:34,428 --> 00:00:37,788 Speaker 1: Nope, not classy now, Yeah, Jamie, you think I've got 13 00:00:37,828 --> 00:00:40,468 Speaker 1: like palmade in my hair. It's liquid depth iced tea, 14 00:00:41,148 --> 00:00:43,828 Speaker 1: not even water iced tea all through my hair. But 15 00:00:43,828 --> 00:00:46,748 Speaker 1: it's natural, right Willie, Yes, I would do it, Yes, 16 00:00:46,948 --> 00:00:48,228 Speaker 1: natural fruits and berries. 17 00:00:48,308 --> 00:00:48,668 Speaker 4: Right. 18 00:00:48,708 --> 00:00:50,668 Speaker 1: We have Bikings Bears in an incredible game. 19 00:00:52,668 --> 00:00:54,068 Speaker 4: Good Morning Football. It's a wild one. 20 00:00:54,108 --> 00:00:54,428 Speaker 5: Let's go. 21 00:01:08,668 --> 00:01:11,468 Speaker 3: Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper. 22 00:01:12,828 --> 00:01:15,708 Speaker 2: That's right on a Tuesday, Jamie, Manti, Willie and Kyle. 23 00:01:16,188 --> 00:01:19,188 Speaker 2: Second hour of GMFB after a great slate of Week 24 00:01:19,228 --> 00:01:21,988 Speaker 2: one games, Kyle Quick clarification from you. 25 00:01:21,988 --> 00:01:24,348 Speaker 3: You started our first hour exactly. 26 00:01:25,308 --> 00:01:28,388 Speaker 2: Making sure people understood the Chicago is the sixteenth windy 27 00:01:28,428 --> 00:01:30,388 Speaker 2: at city. Did I write that down correctly? Are you 28 00:01:30,988 --> 00:01:33,188 Speaker 2: supposed to You're annoyed that you're known for some of 29 00:01:33,228 --> 00:01:33,788 Speaker 2: you askements me. 30 00:01:33,868 --> 00:01:35,308 Speaker 3: What was that about. I just want to understand, to 31 00:01:35,308 --> 00:01:35,588 Speaker 3: make sure. 32 00:01:35,628 --> 00:01:37,228 Speaker 4: Well, no annoy it's just a clarification. 33 00:01:37,348 --> 00:01:39,108 Speaker 1: They call it the windy city, but the wind is 34 00:01:39,108 --> 00:01:41,828 Speaker 1: actually a reference to politics. It has nothing to do 35 00:01:41,868 --> 00:01:43,268 Speaker 1: with wind off the lake or whatsoever. 36 00:01:43,428 --> 00:01:44,708 Speaker 4: It's about the bluster. 37 00:01:44,468 --> 00:01:47,388 Speaker 1: And the rhetoric of politicians because the National Conventions used 38 00:01:47,388 --> 00:01:49,308 Speaker 1: to be in Chicago many years ago. So it's actually 39 00:01:49,348 --> 00:01:51,108 Speaker 1: that not even close to the windy city in the 40 00:01:51,188 --> 00:01:51,788 Speaker 1: United States. 41 00:01:51,828 --> 00:01:54,988 Speaker 2: Well, Minnesota indeed does have ten thousand plus lakes. 42 00:01:55,028 --> 00:01:55,908 Speaker 3: So sometimes it is. 43 00:01:55,908 --> 00:01:59,148 Speaker 2: Actually what you know, and we do know now what 44 00:01:59,188 --> 00:02:01,068 Speaker 2: it's like to be a second year quarterback in both 45 00:02:01,108 --> 00:02:01,988 Speaker 2: Minnesota and Chicago. 46 00:02:02,068 --> 00:02:02,948 Speaker 3: Kyle, you got the highlight. 47 00:02:03,108 --> 00:02:04,388 Speaker 4: I sure do, and let's get to it. 48 00:02:04,588 --> 00:02:07,908 Speaker 1: You know JJ McCarthy from Michigan. Chicagoans know him from 49 00:02:08,028 --> 00:02:11,428 Speaker 1: Nazareth Academy in Lagrange Park. It's one of the western suburbs. 50 00:02:11,428 --> 00:02:14,388 Speaker 1: Lions Township is the public high school. He went to 51 00:02:14,468 --> 00:02:18,748 Speaker 1: Nazareth before going down to Florida. Kayleb Williams usc we 52 00:02:18,788 --> 00:02:20,628 Speaker 1: know all about him. We're trying to learn about Ben 53 00:02:20,708 --> 00:02:22,508 Speaker 1: Johnson because this is his first game ever as a 54 00:02:22,508 --> 00:02:22,948 Speaker 1: head coach. 55 00:02:22,988 --> 00:02:23,548 Speaker 4: How did it go? 56 00:02:23,788 --> 00:02:27,308 Speaker 1: The Bears lose, but the headline here the Vikings win. 57 00:02:27,748 --> 00:02:29,868 Speaker 4: Their second year quarterback. 58 00:02:29,628 --> 00:02:32,588 Speaker 1: Rallies them in the second half, and it's all kinds 59 00:02:32,628 --> 00:02:34,668 Speaker 1: of celebrations on the flight back to the Land of 60 00:02:34,708 --> 00:02:37,468 Speaker 1: ten thousand Lakes from the Land of ten thousand mistakes 61 00:02:37,508 --> 00:02:39,708 Speaker 1: last night, if you were the Bears twenty seven to 62 00:02:39,788 --> 00:02:43,348 Speaker 1: twenty four Vikings McCarty throws for only one forty three. 63 00:02:43,148 --> 00:02:45,268 Speaker 4: But he chucked two touchdowns and it doesn't matter. 64 00:02:45,748 --> 00:02:48,748 Speaker 1: He won the game winner, winner, winner, winner winner. 65 00:02:49,028 --> 00:02:50,188 Speaker 4: Let's hear from both. 66 00:02:49,948 --> 00:02:52,908 Speaker 1: That young quarterback and Kayleb Williams, who. 67 00:02:52,748 --> 00:02:53,868 Speaker 4: Lost this season opener. 68 00:02:55,628 --> 00:02:59,228 Speaker 6: It's been a long journey and you know, six hundred 69 00:02:59,228 --> 00:03:00,908 Speaker 6: and nine days I think I saw it was my 70 00:03:00,988 --> 00:03:04,068 Speaker 6: last you know, competitive football game, which was the National Championship. 71 00:03:04,148 --> 00:03:06,708 Speaker 6: So it's been a while of you know, just being 72 00:03:06,748 --> 00:03:09,948 Speaker 6: in the training room, watching a lot of film, learning 73 00:03:09,948 --> 00:03:11,988 Speaker 6: the playbook and trying to master that. But at the 74 00:03:12,068 --> 00:03:13,868 Speaker 6: end of the day, you know, it's such a blessing 75 00:03:13,908 --> 00:03:16,028 Speaker 6: to be an NFL football player and you know, playing 76 00:03:16,068 --> 00:03:18,108 Speaker 6: this league, and you know, I'm grateful that we get 77 00:03:18,108 --> 00:03:19,668 Speaker 6: to go out there next week and play the Falcons 78 00:03:19,668 --> 00:03:20,308 Speaker 6: on Sunday night. 79 00:03:20,468 --> 00:03:23,108 Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of good there our communication, 80 00:03:24,508 --> 00:03:25,828 Speaker 7: you know. I think I think he was getting the 81 00:03:25,868 --> 00:03:28,948 Speaker 7: plays in, you know, fast and being able to get 82 00:03:28,948 --> 00:03:29,508 Speaker 7: out the huddle. 83 00:03:30,028 --> 00:03:31,148 Speaker 4: You know, we need to be better with that. 84 00:03:31,268 --> 00:03:33,028 Speaker 7: And I've been able to get up to the line 85 00:03:33,068 --> 00:03:35,948 Speaker 7: make checks or whatever case may be. But you know, 86 00:03:35,988 --> 00:03:38,868 Speaker 7: I think I think it's a it's a growing process 87 00:03:39,268 --> 00:03:41,668 Speaker 7: that it's you know, it's going to keep growing from here. 88 00:03:42,388 --> 00:03:42,828 Speaker 4: The start. 89 00:03:42,948 --> 00:03:45,628 Speaker 7: This is the start, but definitely not to definitely not 90 00:03:45,668 --> 00:03:48,908 Speaker 7: to end. So we'll keep growing, We'll keep We'll keep 91 00:03:49,348 --> 00:03:51,788 Speaker 7: you know, being passionate about this offense, him and I 92 00:03:51,908 --> 00:03:53,748 Speaker 7: and passionate about this team and winning. 93 00:03:55,108 --> 00:03:56,428 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about them both. 94 00:03:56,628 --> 00:03:58,468 Speaker 2: I always say that a guy who can end his 95 00:03:58,548 --> 00:04:00,028 Speaker 2: career on a win, it's a flex. 96 00:04:00,108 --> 00:04:02,148 Speaker 3: But if you can start your career on a. 97 00:04:02,108 --> 00:04:05,268 Speaker 2: Game like that JJ McCarthy, that's even more of a flex. 98 00:04:05,268 --> 00:04:07,228 Speaker 2: And for him to reference at six hundred plus days 99 00:04:07,228 --> 00:04:09,748 Speaker 2: ago he was also winning a national championship. That takes 100 00:04:09,788 --> 00:04:12,708 Speaker 2: moxie from the young quarterback, but it also MANSI takes 101 00:04:12,748 --> 00:04:15,388 Speaker 2: a lot of management up here and on the field 102 00:04:15,428 --> 00:04:15,988 Speaker 2: by the head coach. 103 00:04:16,068 --> 00:04:16,188 Speaker 3: Kevin. 104 00:04:16,308 --> 00:04:18,748 Speaker 8: Yeah, Kevin O'Connell put on the masterclass again, guys. I 105 00:04:18,748 --> 00:04:20,548 Speaker 8: thought that for the first half it was like a 106 00:04:20,588 --> 00:04:22,948 Speaker 8: boxing match where they're kind of filling each other out, 107 00:04:22,988 --> 00:04:25,548 Speaker 8: like just feinting here there. Nobody's really throwing anything. You're like, 108 00:04:25,588 --> 00:04:28,908 Speaker 8: somebody just do something extravagant, throw a bomb or something. 109 00:04:28,948 --> 00:04:31,828 Speaker 8: But I think Kevin O'Connell went into that halftime and 110 00:04:31,828 --> 00:04:33,668 Speaker 8: he set his quarterback down and when he said, hey, 111 00:04:33,668 --> 00:04:34,788 Speaker 8: you're going to win this game. 112 00:04:35,308 --> 00:04:37,068 Speaker 5: In other words, to me, it said we're going to 113 00:04:37,148 --> 00:04:38,428 Speaker 5: turn you loose. Now. 114 00:04:38,508 --> 00:04:39,868 Speaker 4: It also says a lot. 115 00:04:39,708 --> 00:04:42,428 Speaker 8: About JAJ McCarthy and Kevin O'Connell that when they did 116 00:04:42,428 --> 00:04:44,388 Speaker 8: turn him loose in that third quarter, he does throw 117 00:04:44,388 --> 00:04:47,668 Speaker 8: that pick six, and still he kept throwing them at him. 118 00:04:47,708 --> 00:04:49,788 Speaker 8: He's still, Hey, don't worry about we're going to let 119 00:04:49,788 --> 00:04:55,228 Speaker 8: this thing go. JJ McCarthy did. He demonstrated his winning DNA, guys, 120 00:04:55,308 --> 00:04:55,948 Speaker 8: That's what I thought. 121 00:04:55,948 --> 00:04:56,668 Speaker 5: He demonstrated. 122 00:04:56,708 --> 00:05:00,468 Speaker 8: He demonstrated that for three quarters, after a rough three quarters, 123 00:05:00,708 --> 00:05:02,748 Speaker 8: that he could make the necessary adjustments. 124 00:05:02,948 --> 00:05:05,108 Speaker 5: Not only that, but he could stay in at a 125 00:05:05,188 --> 00:05:06,428 Speaker 5: level where come. 126 00:05:06,388 --> 00:05:08,588 Speaker 8: To the fourth quarter he throws for two touchdowns and 127 00:05:08,668 --> 00:05:12,268 Speaker 8: runs for one. I thought that was the most impressive 128 00:05:12,308 --> 00:05:14,828 Speaker 8: thing about with JJ. There are things that I saw 129 00:05:15,348 --> 00:05:17,668 Speaker 8: pregame that caught my attention. Number one was that sea 130 00:05:17,748 --> 00:05:20,108 Speaker 8: patch on his jersey. I was like, oh, JJ McCarthy. 131 00:05:19,708 --> 00:05:22,468 Speaker 4: Has a sea patch. Well, he showed why he had 132 00:05:22,468 --> 00:05:23,028 Speaker 4: that sea patch. 133 00:05:23,068 --> 00:05:25,548 Speaker 8: Guys, in my opinion last night, not only how he played, 134 00:05:25,668 --> 00:05:27,748 Speaker 8: but how his guys rallied around him. You saw when 135 00:05:27,748 --> 00:05:30,988 Speaker 8: he scored that touchdown, how his teammates came and celebrated 136 00:05:30,988 --> 00:05:33,628 Speaker 8: it with him. All the assistant coaches basically ran down 137 00:05:33,668 --> 00:05:35,908 Speaker 8: to the sidelines to celebrate with him. And meant a 138 00:05:35,908 --> 00:05:38,788 Speaker 8: lot not only for JJ McCarthy but for the Minnesota Vikings. 139 00:05:38,828 --> 00:05:41,148 Speaker 8: And I'm sure Vikings fans really love singing it. I 140 00:05:41,148 --> 00:05:43,708 Speaker 8: love seeing it for JJ McCarthy, and it's exciting to 141 00:05:43,708 --> 00:05:44,908 Speaker 8: see where they can go from here. 142 00:05:45,068 --> 00:05:47,908 Speaker 9: The one takeaway I took from last night's game is 143 00:05:47,908 --> 00:05:50,588 Speaker 9: Ben Johnson has his hands full. You talk about this 144 00:05:50,708 --> 00:05:54,028 Speaker 9: team right now, didn't respond. Will you talk about twelve 145 00:05:54,068 --> 00:05:55,868 Speaker 9: penalties for one hundred and twenty seven yards they gave 146 00:05:55,948 --> 00:05:59,228 Speaker 9: up fifteen pressures Right now, he has to understand Caleb, 147 00:05:59,508 --> 00:06:02,108 Speaker 9: Caleb Williams isn't Jared Golf. He's not going to thrive 148 00:06:02,148 --> 00:06:04,188 Speaker 9: in the pocket. He's not going to survive in there. 149 00:06:04,228 --> 00:06:05,708 Speaker 9: They're going to have to figure out ways where they 150 00:06:05,748 --> 00:06:08,028 Speaker 9: could use his legs as a weapon. I know they 151 00:06:08,228 --> 00:06:10,148 Speaker 9: have all these weapons on the outside with them, Dooz. 152 00:06:10,428 --> 00:06:12,588 Speaker 9: We talk about DJ Moore in company, but they have 153 00:06:12,708 --> 00:06:15,868 Speaker 9: to find a rhythm. There's something about Caleb Williams game 154 00:06:16,068 --> 00:06:18,988 Speaker 9: that's not clicking with Ben Johnson's offense. And they're gonna 155 00:06:18,988 --> 00:06:20,428 Speaker 9: have to meet in the middle of the road and 156 00:06:20,428 --> 00:06:22,068 Speaker 9: they're gonna have to figure this out and sandwich what 157 00:06:22,068 --> 00:06:23,828 Speaker 9: they can do, what he can do best, and what 158 00:06:23,868 --> 00:06:26,068 Speaker 9: they cannot do for this office to move forward. 159 00:06:26,148 --> 00:06:27,588 Speaker 4: When you talk about the Chicago. 160 00:06:27,268 --> 00:06:29,188 Speaker 9: Bears last night, at what we saw, we saw this 161 00:06:29,268 --> 00:06:29,908 Speaker 9: offense stall. 162 00:06:30,228 --> 00:06:31,148 Speaker 4: He looked unhinged. 163 00:06:31,268 --> 00:06:33,348 Speaker 9: Tayleb Williams looked a radic that he's going to have 164 00:06:33,388 --> 00:06:35,348 Speaker 9: to figure out how can he calm this young, young 165 00:06:35,428 --> 00:06:38,028 Speaker 9: slinger down. Very much like what the Buffalo had to 166 00:06:38,028 --> 00:06:40,548 Speaker 9: do to Josh Allen. You know he has the athleticsine, 167 00:06:40,588 --> 00:06:42,308 Speaker 9: you know he has the arm talent, but can he 168 00:06:42,388 --> 00:06:45,028 Speaker 9: thrive in your offense? Ben Johnson's gonna have to solve 169 00:06:45,028 --> 00:06:46,228 Speaker 9: that puzzle. He's gonna have to solve it. 170 00:06:46,268 --> 00:06:47,228 Speaker 5: Fest I just. 171 00:06:47,148 --> 00:06:49,108 Speaker 1: Think you look at the Vikings did last night. It 172 00:06:49,148 --> 00:06:51,628 Speaker 1: was the Vikings had a case study in bouncing back. 173 00:06:51,708 --> 00:06:54,828 Speaker 4: They did it in game. The coach did, the quarterback did. 174 00:06:54,868 --> 00:06:57,148 Speaker 1: Things were going terribly, they took it on the chin 175 00:06:57,188 --> 00:06:59,188 Speaker 1: and they bounced back. And now the Bears bounced back, like, 176 00:06:59,268 --> 00:07:01,628 Speaker 1: now what do you got. You saw the Vikings coach 177 00:07:01,668 --> 00:07:03,308 Speaker 1: do it in the game. You saw the Vikings quarterback 178 00:07:03,348 --> 00:07:05,548 Speaker 1: do it in the game. Now week where you have 179 00:07:05,588 --> 00:07:08,588 Speaker 1: to chill out, relax, puke, do whatever you have to do, 180 00:07:08,628 --> 00:07:11,068 Speaker 1: get out of your system, and then bounce back. Because 181 00:07:11,668 --> 00:07:14,988 Speaker 1: for all the Bears fans so excited to see the 182 00:07:14,988 --> 00:07:18,468 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson offense, that was not an offense last night. 183 00:07:18,508 --> 00:07:20,948 Speaker 1: That was an athlete just running around making plays. It 184 00:07:20,988 --> 00:07:24,828 Speaker 1: didn't resemble an offense. Even on the first drive. Guys, 185 00:07:24,868 --> 00:07:27,588 Speaker 1: if you watch the game, the first drive was a 186 00:07:27,628 --> 00:07:32,668 Speaker 1: series of checkdowns and ad libs. Caleb just running around 187 00:07:32,748 --> 00:07:37,388 Speaker 1: looking frantic, manic, nervous and either throwing it to DeAndre 188 00:07:37,508 --> 00:07:39,588 Speaker 1: Swift or running out of the pocket and making some 189 00:07:39,668 --> 00:07:41,628 Speaker 1: kind of magic or scrambling and had living like he 190 00:07:41,668 --> 00:07:43,908 Speaker 1: did on the touchdown. And that's the first drive. That's 191 00:07:43,908 --> 00:07:46,268 Speaker 1: the one that's supposed to be turnkey. And then after 192 00:07:46,308 --> 00:07:48,868 Speaker 1: that it was just more. It never really looked like 193 00:07:48,908 --> 00:07:51,948 Speaker 1: they were running a fluid offense. Even if you miss 194 00:07:51,988 --> 00:07:54,428 Speaker 1: a pass, fine, the guy was there. You just threw 195 00:07:54,428 --> 00:07:56,868 Speaker 1: it too high. It was just it was sandlot. I 196 00:07:56,868 --> 00:07:59,868 Speaker 1: felt like I was watching kids at recess, and Caleb's 197 00:07:59,868 --> 00:08:01,108 Speaker 1: the best kid at recess, so he. 198 00:08:01,108 --> 00:08:02,948 Speaker 4: Runs around and makes some plays occasionally. 199 00:08:04,028 --> 00:08:06,348 Speaker 1: If I'm I'm going to sit here for weeks and 200 00:08:06,388 --> 00:08:08,028 Speaker 1: really years and say week. 201 00:08:07,828 --> 00:08:09,708 Speaker 4: One is a liar, I Am not going to. 202 00:08:09,668 --> 00:08:12,828 Speaker 1: Come on Tuesday and condemn the Bears to four and thirteen. 203 00:08:12,908 --> 00:08:15,548 Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. They have really smart, really 204 00:08:15,588 --> 00:08:18,148 Speaker 1: talented people running this. But my gud get it together, 205 00:08:18,468 --> 00:08:21,308 Speaker 1: because the only time you actually resemble an offense is 206 00:08:21,308 --> 00:08:23,468 Speaker 1: when you were actually false starting five times in the 207 00:08:23,468 --> 00:08:26,308 Speaker 1: first half or whatever. Is that a record? They were 208 00:08:26,348 --> 00:08:28,308 Speaker 1: at home, Willy, It's not like they were. 209 00:08:28,148 --> 00:08:30,908 Speaker 4: In some dome somewhere where I just can't hear. It's 210 00:08:30,948 --> 00:08:34,468 Speaker 4: a sign you're at home. I'm screaming. I shouldn't be screaming. 211 00:08:34,468 --> 00:08:36,268 Speaker 4: In fact, there was only four false starts. It's the 212 00:08:36,308 --> 00:08:38,548 Speaker 4: T shirt. Maybe it is the T shirt. So here's 213 00:08:38,548 --> 00:08:38,868 Speaker 4: the deal. 214 00:08:39,068 --> 00:08:42,228 Speaker 1: Okay, it's week one, maybe it was terrible, and maybe 215 00:08:42,228 --> 00:08:42,988 Speaker 1: the Bears is run. 216 00:08:43,188 --> 00:08:43,588 Speaker 4: Week two. 217 00:08:43,868 --> 00:08:46,188 Speaker 1: You're going at Detroit, either you or the Lions are 218 00:08:46,188 --> 00:08:47,708 Speaker 1: going to be on too, and you're both going to 219 00:08:47,708 --> 00:08:48,748 Speaker 1: be One of you is going to be on too 220 00:08:48,748 --> 00:08:51,068 Speaker 1: in the division, So the Bears fans, if it's not 221 00:08:51,348 --> 00:08:53,428 Speaker 1: same old Bears, which I hate hearing. 222 00:08:53,868 --> 00:08:54,908 Speaker 4: If it's not, I'm. 223 00:08:54,788 --> 00:08:57,268 Speaker 1: Ready to get hurt again, which is pathetic to say. 224 00:08:57,708 --> 00:08:59,788 Speaker 1: Then go and do something about it and make the 225 00:08:59,908 --> 00:09:02,068 Speaker 1: Lions be owing to and go and get a win. 226 00:09:02,508 --> 00:09:05,428 Speaker 4: You can be frustrated and disappointed last night. You should be. 227 00:09:05,908 --> 00:09:07,588 Speaker 4: But this idea of we're. 228 00:09:07,468 --> 00:09:10,828 Speaker 1: Done to Ben Johnson sucked, Caleb sucks is so stupid 229 00:09:10,868 --> 00:09:14,108 Speaker 1: and short sighted and over dramatic and self loathing. 230 00:09:13,788 --> 00:09:15,628 Speaker 4: And I'm just not here for it. I expect the. 231 00:09:15,548 --> 00:09:17,588 Speaker 1: Bears to go in there and fight their ass off, 232 00:09:17,588 --> 00:09:18,468 Speaker 1: and I hope they do too. 233 00:09:18,788 --> 00:09:19,028 Speaker 4: Yeah. 234 00:09:19,028 --> 00:09:22,188 Speaker 2: The execution, though, Kyle for a handful of false starts 235 00:09:22,228 --> 00:09:24,148 Speaker 2: that comes at the hands of the quarterback and the 236 00:09:24,148 --> 00:09:26,348 Speaker 2: play clock. And to your point, you just painted that 237 00:09:26,468 --> 00:09:28,668 Speaker 2: very eerie picture for them in the NFC North. They 238 00:09:28,708 --> 00:09:30,828 Speaker 2: have to go to a dome next week, and of 239 00:09:30,908 --> 00:09:33,708 Speaker 2: all the unfriendly places, I have to imagine their former 240 00:09:33,708 --> 00:09:37,308 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator going back into Detroit and having to coach 241 00:09:37,388 --> 00:09:38,628 Speaker 2: for just his second. 242 00:09:38,428 --> 00:09:39,588 Speaker 3: Game is daunting. 243 00:09:39,908 --> 00:09:41,828 Speaker 2: I do want to have you, Kyle, one more on 244 00:09:41,868 --> 00:09:44,148 Speaker 2: since August first, you've done a lot of inspection of 245 00:09:44,188 --> 00:09:47,508 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson and frankly, his body language, his facial expression, 246 00:09:47,788 --> 00:09:50,388 Speaker 2: is how he handles his quarterback. Now that you've had 247 00:09:50,428 --> 00:09:52,668 Speaker 2: a one game sample size of what he looks like 248 00:09:52,708 --> 00:09:55,108 Speaker 2: as a head coach, can we revisit this topic. 249 00:09:56,268 --> 00:09:57,788 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be fascinating to watch Ben 250 00:09:57,828 --> 00:09:59,988 Speaker 1: Johnson this week and how he talks about Caleb Williams, 251 00:09:59,988 --> 00:10:02,308 Speaker 1: how he talks to Caleb Williams. Because we've said this 252 00:10:02,388 --> 00:10:08,068 Speaker 1: many times, Caleb Williams is this nil, super rich, privileged 253 00:10:08,108 --> 00:10:10,228 Speaker 1: guy in the sense that he is so talented that 254 00:10:10,308 --> 00:10:12,828 Speaker 1: he's since going back to high school, he's at his 255 00:10:12,868 --> 00:10:15,188 Speaker 1: butt kiss by every coach he's ever had. Ben Johnson 256 00:10:15,228 --> 00:10:17,108 Speaker 1: came in and was the strict parent. He was the 257 00:10:17,148 --> 00:10:18,988 Speaker 1: bad cop. He was the guy who will chew you out. 258 00:10:19,108 --> 00:10:21,148 Speaker 1: Caleb did not play well last night. You can see 259 00:10:21,148 --> 00:10:22,628 Speaker 1: it online, EXA, any where. He missed a lot of 260 00:10:22,628 --> 00:10:26,028 Speaker 1: open guys. He looked totally uncomfortable. Does Ben just like 261 00:10:26,268 --> 00:10:28,428 Speaker 1: ream him out? Does he air him out in the media? 262 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:31,428 Speaker 1: Are we there yet? Watch that relationship. They have a 263 00:10:31,468 --> 00:10:33,508 Speaker 1: marriage that's supposed to go on for years. But he 264 00:10:33,548 --> 00:10:36,028 Speaker 1: played really poorly in the first game. He was the 265 00:10:36,068 --> 00:10:38,508 Speaker 1: second best second year quarterback and the other guy in 266 00:10:38,548 --> 00:10:41,228 Speaker 1: the second half was doing laps around him. So watch 267 00:10:41,268 --> 00:10:43,548 Speaker 1: the relationship because if Ben is the guy he says 268 00:10:43,548 --> 00:10:45,988 Speaker 1: he is, it's not going to be well, you know, 269 00:10:46,188 --> 00:10:49,908 Speaker 1: it's not all on Caleb, and I gotta be better 270 00:10:49,948 --> 00:10:52,388 Speaker 1: as a play caller. I don't know if any of 271 00:10:52,428 --> 00:10:56,548 Speaker 1: that's coming. Remember guys, last point. They scored that on 272 00:10:56,588 --> 00:10:58,828 Speaker 1: the first drive. I look at the first drive differently 273 00:10:58,868 --> 00:10:59,588 Speaker 1: than every other drive. 274 00:10:59,628 --> 00:11:02,468 Speaker 4: It's all scripted. They're ready, they know what's coming. So 275 00:11:02,508 --> 00:11:04,908 Speaker 4: they also got to pick six on defense. So if 276 00:11:04,948 --> 00:11:06,068 Speaker 4: you quote unquote. 277 00:11:05,708 --> 00:11:08,188 Speaker 1: Take away those two touchdowns, the Bears offense con eventually 278 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:08,908 Speaker 1: scored ten. 279 00:11:08,788 --> 00:11:10,828 Speaker 4: Points at home last night not great. 280 00:11:11,348 --> 00:11:13,828 Speaker 1: Watch Ben Johnson this week, in fact, watch him today, 281 00:11:13,868 --> 00:11:15,548 Speaker 1: and I want to watch in dissect every word he 282 00:11:15,548 --> 00:11:17,628 Speaker 1: says about Caleb because they some of them should not 283 00:11:17,628 --> 00:11:18,188 Speaker 1: be flattering. 284 00:11:18,468 --> 00:11:20,508 Speaker 8: Yeah, one thing I observed, guys when I watched the 285 00:11:20,588 --> 00:11:23,788 Speaker 8: game was how slow they got to the line of scrimmage. 286 00:11:23,828 --> 00:11:25,788 Speaker 5: Like when you watch them get to the line. 287 00:11:25,668 --> 00:11:28,948 Speaker 8: Of scrimmage, Drew's like twelve eleven seconds left on the 288 00:11:28,948 --> 00:11:30,908 Speaker 8: play clock. Now, I think that if they're able to 289 00:11:30,908 --> 00:11:33,148 Speaker 8: get to the line of scrimmage a lot sooner now, 290 00:11:33,228 --> 00:11:35,148 Speaker 8: it allows that old line to kind of settle in. 291 00:11:35,228 --> 00:11:37,548 Speaker 8: It allows Caleb Williams to go through his checks, and 292 00:11:37,588 --> 00:11:39,268 Speaker 8: I think that could help them out a little bit 293 00:11:39,268 --> 00:11:41,188 Speaker 8: more instead of trying to be in a hurry all 294 00:11:41,228 --> 00:11:43,628 Speaker 8: the time. It felt like for three and a half 295 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:46,268 Speaker 8: quarters they're always behind the eight ball. It's like they're 296 00:11:46,308 --> 00:11:48,508 Speaker 8: trying to catch up with the time, and that doesn't 297 00:11:48,508 --> 00:11:51,108 Speaker 8: bode well for a quarterback like Caleb Williams, where you 298 00:11:51,148 --> 00:11:53,908 Speaker 8: want to try to calm him down, like make him settle. 299 00:11:54,348 --> 00:11:56,308 Speaker 8: I think getting them to the line of scrimmage sooner 300 00:11:56,308 --> 00:11:58,988 Speaker 8: with at least twenty seconds allows them to see defenses 301 00:11:59,028 --> 00:12:01,468 Speaker 8: and if Ben Johnson wants to get get into his 302 00:12:01,508 --> 00:12:03,108 Speaker 8: ear before that fifteen second caught off. 303 00:12:03,108 --> 00:12:03,708 Speaker 5: He can do so. 304 00:12:04,508 --> 00:12:06,628 Speaker 8: But it definitely was alarming to me when I saw 305 00:12:06,668 --> 00:12:09,348 Speaker 8: them consistently get to the line of scrimmage, always be 306 00:12:09,428 --> 00:12:11,548 Speaker 8: in a hurry, and I think that attributed to some 307 00:12:11,588 --> 00:12:14,748 Speaker 8: of their false starts and some of those those mishaps. 308 00:12:14,268 --> 00:12:15,148 Speaker 5: That they had with the cadence. 309 00:12:15,188 --> 00:12:17,028 Speaker 2: Yeah, the key is to have command and we saw 310 00:12:17,068 --> 00:12:19,628 Speaker 2: that go two very different ways for second year quarterbacks 311 00:12:19,748 --> 00:12:22,228 Speaker 2: last night. That was it from Monday Night Football and 312 00:12:22,268 --> 00:12:24,508 Speaker 2: Week one, And like we said, it was a slate 313 00:12:24,588 --> 00:12:26,668 Speaker 2: to be obsessed with. And now we move on. Tom 314 00:12:26,668 --> 00:12:29,508 Speaker 2: Pella Sero, we are wondering with the San Francisco forty 315 00:12:29,588 --> 00:12:32,068 Speaker 2: nine ers and how they move on with their starting 316 00:12:32,148 --> 00:12:34,748 Speaker 2: quarterback and his health and availability come this weekend. 317 00:12:35,028 --> 00:12:37,228 Speaker 10: This one was a surprise, Jamie Ford and AIS coach 318 00:12:37,308 --> 00:12:40,988 Speaker 10: Kyle Shanahan saying that Brock Purry suffered left shoulder and 319 00:12:41,188 --> 00:12:45,428 Speaker 10: toe injuries in Sunday's season opening win at Seattle, surprising 320 00:12:45,468 --> 00:12:47,668 Speaker 10: because Purdy played that entire game. 321 00:12:47,828 --> 00:12:49,028 Speaker 4: He hit a big shot. 322 00:12:48,748 --> 00:12:51,308 Speaker 10: To Ricky Piersoll and then threw the game winning touchdown, 323 00:12:51,708 --> 00:12:54,868 Speaker 10: all after injuring the shoulder, his non throwing shoulder in 324 00:12:54,948 --> 00:12:57,708 Speaker 10: the first half, and at some point injuring his toe 325 00:12:57,748 --> 00:13:00,548 Speaker 10: as well. In terms of Party's availability for this week, 326 00:13:00,548 --> 00:13:02,428 Speaker 10: Shanahan said, they really don't know yet. They have to 327 00:13:02,468 --> 00:13:06,028 Speaker 10: see how everything heals. The toe, according to Shanahan, is 328 00:13:06,148 --> 00:13:08,988 Speaker 10: worse than the shoulder. If Party can't go, it would 329 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:11,788 Speaker 10: be mac Jones gain his first forty nine Ers start 330 00:13:11,868 --> 00:13:14,188 Speaker 10: against the Saints. Forty and I is also going to 331 00:13:14,188 --> 00:13:16,668 Speaker 10: be without their star tight end George Kittle for a 332 00:13:16,788 --> 00:13:17,468 Speaker 10: while here. 333 00:13:17,668 --> 00:13:19,668 Speaker 4: Shanahan san the Kittle is going to be out a 334 00:13:19,868 --> 00:13:20,948 Speaker 4: few weeks. 335 00:13:20,788 --> 00:13:23,948 Speaker 10: After suffering a hamstring injury that sidelined him down the 336 00:13:23,948 --> 00:13:27,628 Speaker 10: stretch in Seattle. Now the forty nine Ers schedule is 337 00:13:27,668 --> 00:13:30,228 Speaker 10: a Thursday night game in Week five. Over the next 338 00:13:30,268 --> 00:13:34,028 Speaker 10: twenty three days, they play four games. That certainly brings 339 00:13:34,068 --> 00:13:37,468 Speaker 10: into account the possibility of Kill going on injured reserve 340 00:13:37,708 --> 00:13:39,628 Speaker 10: at getting a month or so off and then being 341 00:13:39,668 --> 00:13:41,748 Speaker 10: back sometime around week six. 342 00:13:42,068 --> 00:13:43,388 Speaker 4: We also continue to. 343 00:13:43,428 --> 00:13:45,948 Speaker 10: Await definitive rord on the status of Jail and Carter, 344 00:13:46,108 --> 00:13:49,828 Speaker 10: the Eagles star defensive tackle who is ejected for spitting 345 00:13:49,868 --> 00:13:53,308 Speaker 10: on Dak Prescott before the first snap from scrimmage. In 346 00:13:53,468 --> 00:13:59,268 Speaker 10: last Thursday's kickoff game. Now it's Tuesday. Usually suspensions, particularly 347 00:13:59,348 --> 00:14:02,028 Speaker 10: for games that occurred last week, would have been locked 348 00:14:02,068 --> 00:14:05,308 Speaker 10: in by now, but at this point been emphasized to me, 349 00:14:05,388 --> 00:14:08,948 Speaker 10: there is no final decision made or remembering Parner did 350 00:14:08,988 --> 00:14:13,388 Speaker 10: miss effectively an entire game. Already spinning instance historically have 351 00:14:13,468 --> 00:14:16,628 Speaker 10: been handled by fines, not suspensions. We'll see whether or 352 00:14:16,628 --> 00:14:20,908 Speaker 10: not the NFL's continued emphasis on sportsmanship and respect between 353 00:14:20,948 --> 00:14:24,188 Speaker 10: player to player might influence the final decision here. 354 00:14:24,148 --> 00:14:26,228 Speaker 2: Jamie, Tom, do they still do the letter in the 355 00:14:26,268 --> 00:14:28,468 Speaker 2: locker thing on Wednesdays? I feel like I always heard 356 00:14:28,508 --> 00:14:30,388 Speaker 2: that story and then the guy shows up and he 357 00:14:30,428 --> 00:14:32,068 Speaker 2: finds out that kind of information from the league. 358 00:14:32,148 --> 00:14:32,788 Speaker 3: That's still a thing. 359 00:14:33,188 --> 00:14:35,308 Speaker 10: There's still it was a FedEx. It was what it 360 00:14:35,348 --> 00:14:37,268 Speaker 10: would be. You would get a FedEx in your locker. 361 00:14:37,348 --> 00:14:41,188 Speaker 10: The stick me Manti would know the drug tests were 362 00:14:41,308 --> 00:14:43,268 Speaker 10: on a piece of paper that was taped in your locker. 363 00:14:43,308 --> 00:14:44,788 Speaker 4: It was the illegal hits that. 364 00:14:44,748 --> 00:14:47,148 Speaker 10: You got the FedEx for. Now, I believe, Jamie, it's 365 00:14:47,188 --> 00:14:50,028 Speaker 10: actually all resolved over DMS on TikTok, which I think 366 00:14:50,108 --> 00:14:51,188 Speaker 10: is nice to know. 367 00:14:51,908 --> 00:14:54,548 Speaker 2: Make sure you have that check mark all right, don't 368 00:14:54,588 --> 00:14:57,108 Speaker 2: monetize it though, all right, coming up, Tom pellisera thank 369 00:14:57,108 --> 00:15:01,428 Speaker 2: you so much time for a wake up Call presented 370 00:15:01,428 --> 00:15:05,868 Speaker 2: by Verizon yesterday. Ravens head coach John Harbaugh went on 371 00:15:05,908 --> 00:15:09,548 Speaker 2: to explain his decision to punt with a minute thirty 372 00:15:09,548 --> 00:15:11,828 Speaker 2: three left in the fourth quarter. The Ravens were up 373 00:15:11,868 --> 00:15:14,668 Speaker 2: by two at the time, and it was fourth and three. 374 00:15:14,908 --> 00:15:17,428 Speaker 2: They were clinging to this two point lead. But the 375 00:15:17,468 --> 00:15:19,628 Speaker 2: punt or go for it remains to be the question. 376 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:23,108 Speaker 11: Lar was coming off the field at that point. I 377 00:15:23,108 --> 00:15:25,428 Speaker 11: could see something wasn't quite right, and you say, you 378 00:15:25,428 --> 00:15:26,948 Speaker 11: gotta get your punt team out there, and that was 379 00:15:26,948 --> 00:15:28,828 Speaker 11: really kind of It's a fast sequence of events in 380 00:15:28,868 --> 00:15:31,748 Speaker 11: that moment. But then again too, I'm not shying away 381 00:15:31,748 --> 00:15:34,028 Speaker 11: from putting our defense out there. I mean, if you 382 00:15:34,068 --> 00:15:35,988 Speaker 11: get stopped on fourth and three, it's did you think 383 00:15:36,028 --> 00:15:37,828 Speaker 11: about punting the ball and putting your defense out there 384 00:15:37,828 --> 00:15:39,268 Speaker 11: and giving them a chance to win the game. I mean, 385 00:15:39,308 --> 00:15:42,748 Speaker 11: that would have been the next conversation because they'd have 386 00:15:42,788 --> 00:15:45,268 Speaker 11: been in field goal range already. So I trust our defense, 387 00:15:45,308 --> 00:15:47,668 Speaker 11: and I'm going to trust our defense this year in 388 00:15:47,668 --> 00:15:49,708 Speaker 11: a lot of big situations because our defense is going 389 00:15:49,748 --> 00:15:50,668 Speaker 11: to be really, really good. 390 00:15:52,468 --> 00:15:54,468 Speaker 2: It's a good point. We keep saying this about the Ravens, 391 00:15:54,508 --> 00:15:56,748 Speaker 2: that they are absolutely loaded and now they have a 392 00:15:56,788 --> 00:15:59,388 Speaker 2: brutal Week one loss to look at against a really 393 00:15:59,428 --> 00:16:01,668 Speaker 2: good Bills team in the AFC. So, Kyle, what do 394 00:16:01,708 --> 00:16:04,228 Speaker 2: you make of Harbaugh's explanation but also the bounce back 395 00:16:04,228 --> 00:16:05,668 Speaker 2: of ability for Baltimore. 396 00:16:06,868 --> 00:16:08,988 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because we sat here on Monday like 397 00:16:09,028 --> 00:16:10,668 Speaker 1: many people and being like, how do you not have 398 00:16:10,788 --> 00:16:12,948 Speaker 1: Lamar roll out and try to get three yards? 399 00:16:12,988 --> 00:16:14,868 Speaker 4: Why not do it? A couple of things. 400 00:16:15,028 --> 00:16:17,548 Speaker 1: I always love when coaches will try to take a 401 00:16:17,588 --> 00:16:19,388 Speaker 1: bad thing that happened and make it into a positi 402 00:16:19,388 --> 00:16:22,308 Speaker 1: where I trust our defense. I always have faith in. 403 00:16:22,508 --> 00:16:24,628 Speaker 1: That's like coaching one on one, but the defense is 404 00:16:24,628 --> 00:16:25,788 Speaker 1: given up forty one points that night. 405 00:16:25,908 --> 00:16:27,588 Speaker 4: With the defense, it was not their knight. 406 00:16:28,108 --> 00:16:30,708 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have trusted the eighty five Bears against that team. 407 00:16:30,788 --> 00:16:32,668 Speaker 4: It's all right. The seventy eight Steelers would have been 408 00:16:32,708 --> 00:16:33,748 Speaker 4: lost to Josh Allen that night. 409 00:16:33,868 --> 00:16:37,068 Speaker 1: However, I think it is interesting that he references that 410 00:16:37,148 --> 00:16:39,908 Speaker 1: Lamar was coming out. That's the fourth look at the 411 00:16:39,948 --> 00:16:42,228 Speaker 1: third down, so Lamar is going to be active and 412 00:16:42,268 --> 00:16:45,068 Speaker 1: this is the third down, it's the throwdown field. But 413 00:16:45,188 --> 00:16:47,748 Speaker 1: Lamar is going to take contact in the pocket. He's 414 00:16:47,788 --> 00:16:50,188 Speaker 1: gonna get hit, so he's got that little hitch. I 415 00:16:50,188 --> 00:16:52,348 Speaker 1: think Harbaugh looked up at that and said, of course 416 00:16:52,388 --> 00:16:53,748 Speaker 1: I want going to go for it on fourth and 417 00:16:53,828 --> 00:16:54,708 Speaker 1: three with Lamar, and I'm going. 418 00:16:54,668 --> 00:16:56,468 Speaker 4: To roll him out. Let him be Lamar. I don't 419 00:16:56,468 --> 00:16:58,388 Speaker 4: think Lamar was Lamar in that moment. I think he 420 00:16:58,428 --> 00:16:59,028 Speaker 4: needed a play. 421 00:16:59,068 --> 00:17:01,108 Speaker 1: I think it was just really bad timing that if 422 00:17:01,108 --> 00:17:02,908 Speaker 1: you call his number on the next play, maybe he 423 00:17:02,908 --> 00:17:04,908 Speaker 1: doesn't have it. So he said, I'll go with the 424 00:17:04,908 --> 00:17:07,868 Speaker 1: old trucks. My defense. They lose by one point. It's 425 00:17:07,868 --> 00:17:09,548 Speaker 1: a bad gamble. But I think it was also some 426 00:17:09,588 --> 00:17:11,348 Speaker 1: bad luck for Harbor when he looks up and sees 427 00:17:11,388 --> 00:17:12,308 Speaker 1: that and says, no, I'm going. 428 00:17:12,268 --> 00:17:13,628 Speaker 4: To punch it. That's my explanation. 429 00:17:14,588 --> 00:17:17,508 Speaker 8: But that's a great pool KB, because I mean, I 430 00:17:17,588 --> 00:17:19,668 Speaker 8: keep thinking about it so many times where Lamar is 431 00:17:19,708 --> 00:17:21,308 Speaker 8: still standing on the field and he's like telling him 432 00:17:21,508 --> 00:17:23,468 Speaker 8: let's go, let's go, or how many times he's run 433 00:17:23,548 --> 00:17:24,948 Speaker 8: to the field and actually approach John. 434 00:17:24,948 --> 00:17:26,948 Speaker 5: Harball was like, let's go for it. John's like, do 435 00:17:26,988 --> 00:17:27,348 Speaker 5: you want to go? 436 00:17:27,388 --> 00:17:27,508 Speaker 4: For it. 437 00:17:27,468 --> 00:17:29,668 Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, let's run. So I do get that 438 00:17:29,708 --> 00:17:32,468 Speaker 8: about John Harble. I would say this though, in the 439 00:17:32,548 --> 00:17:35,508 Speaker 8: fourth quarter, the Bills had four drives, and those four 440 00:17:35,628 --> 00:17:36,788 Speaker 8: drives they scored on three of them. 441 00:17:36,788 --> 00:17:37,908 Speaker 5: They scored twenty one points. 442 00:17:37,948 --> 00:17:41,228 Speaker 8: They had twenty seven plays compared to the Ravens. 443 00:17:40,948 --> 00:17:42,708 Speaker 5: Nine plays in the fourth quarter. 444 00:17:42,988 --> 00:17:44,708 Speaker 8: So if I'm looking at that, I know there's so 445 00:17:44,708 --> 00:17:45,828 Speaker 8: many stats out there for. 446 00:17:45,828 --> 00:17:46,508 Speaker 5: John to look at. 447 00:17:46,588 --> 00:17:48,788 Speaker 8: I'm sure the last thing he's thinking about is man, 448 00:17:48,828 --> 00:17:51,468 Speaker 8: my defense has been out there for a lot of plays. 449 00:17:52,428 --> 00:17:54,588 Speaker 8: I'm looking at now as I met it's fourth and three. 450 00:17:54,668 --> 00:17:56,868 Speaker 8: I know Lamar probably doesn't look well, but also my 451 00:17:56,948 --> 00:17:59,548 Speaker 8: defense doesn't look well at all either. They've played a 452 00:17:59,548 --> 00:18:02,028 Speaker 8: lot of snaps in this fourth quarter. Let me roll 453 00:18:02,028 --> 00:18:04,828 Speaker 8: the dice with this. Let me I know Lmar on 454 00:18:04,828 --> 00:18:07,708 Speaker 8: one leg is still better than some quarterbacks. I'm both 455 00:18:07,748 --> 00:18:10,548 Speaker 8: in my opinion, and even at that situation, you still 456 00:18:10,588 --> 00:18:11,428 Speaker 8: have s eight Flowers that. 457 00:18:11,428 --> 00:18:13,188 Speaker 5: He can get the ball to. Or Derrick Henry. 458 00:18:13,228 --> 00:18:15,508 Speaker 8: I know he just fumbled not too long ago, but 459 00:18:15,548 --> 00:18:17,428 Speaker 8: I'm sure he wanted to get some redemption there. But 460 00:18:18,028 --> 00:18:20,628 Speaker 8: I would say from a defensive standpoint, knowing your defense 461 00:18:20,668 --> 00:18:22,868 Speaker 8: has played a lot of plays, a lot of snaps 462 00:18:22,868 --> 00:18:24,828 Speaker 8: compared to your offense, who only played nine at that 463 00:18:25,028 --> 00:18:25,748 Speaker 8: up to that moment. 464 00:18:26,268 --> 00:18:27,148 Speaker 4: I would roll the dice. 465 00:18:27,188 --> 00:18:28,828 Speaker 8: But that's me and that's why I sit behind the 466 00:18:28,828 --> 00:18:30,068 Speaker 8: desk and he's on the sideline. 467 00:18:32,028 --> 00:18:32,948 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying. 468 00:18:32,988 --> 00:18:35,908 Speaker 9: I'm trying to be open minded, but I'm trying to 469 00:18:35,908 --> 00:18:37,308 Speaker 9: be open minded about this man. 470 00:18:37,348 --> 00:18:38,068 Speaker 4: He closed minded. 471 00:18:38,868 --> 00:18:40,668 Speaker 9: At the end of the day, if you're going to 472 00:18:40,708 --> 00:18:42,708 Speaker 9: put your tips on anybody, put it on number eight. 473 00:18:42,948 --> 00:18:45,428 Speaker 4: I understand what we just saw as far as Lamar or. 474 00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:48,388 Speaker 9: Jackson get hit, and that's a valid explanation, but it 475 00:18:48,508 --> 00:18:51,628 Speaker 9: goes back to I remember the game Chiefs versus Ravens 476 00:18:52,228 --> 00:18:54,348 Speaker 9: fourth and one with a minute five on the clock, 477 00:18:54,388 --> 00:18:56,788 Speaker 9: there was a TV timeout and I remember John Hopball 478 00:18:56,788 --> 00:18:59,468 Speaker 9: walking onto the field asking Lamar Jackson do you want 479 00:18:59,468 --> 00:19:01,388 Speaker 9: to go for it? And Lamar Jackson said, yeah, get 480 00:19:01,428 --> 00:19:01,948 Speaker 9: me the ball. 481 00:19:02,228 --> 00:19:04,028 Speaker 4: He got the first down and sealed the game. 482 00:19:04,428 --> 00:19:06,508 Speaker 9: It is you're talking about minute thirty three in this 483 00:19:06,588 --> 00:19:08,988 Speaker 9: a game against Buffalo, only you need is three yards. 484 00:19:09,068 --> 00:19:11,188 Speaker 9: You have Derek Hearing as an option, you got Mark 485 00:19:11,228 --> 00:19:13,068 Speaker 9: Andrews as an option, and if you're going to put 486 00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:15,708 Speaker 9: your money on anybody bet on eight. So I don't 487 00:19:15,748 --> 00:19:18,628 Speaker 9: buy the excuse that you trust your defense. I just 488 00:19:18,668 --> 00:19:20,308 Speaker 9: told you you gave up forty one points. 489 00:19:20,388 --> 00:19:21,748 Speaker 4: They weren't cooking. Not there. 490 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:25,028 Speaker 9: If I'm John Habball and I see my quarterback like 491 00:19:25,308 --> 00:19:27,468 Speaker 9: in a little bit of pain, suck it up, Son. 492 00:19:27,588 --> 00:19:28,948 Speaker 4: We got to get out here with a double. 493 00:19:29,028 --> 00:19:31,068 Speaker 9: I know as an office aligneman, I've been rolled up, 494 00:19:31,308 --> 00:19:33,228 Speaker 9: I've been pinned down, I've been smacked in the face, 495 00:19:33,268 --> 00:19:36,308 Speaker 9: I've been hitting the gut, and when the balls coming 496 00:19:36,348 --> 00:19:37,748 Speaker 9: to my side, I got to deliver it. 497 00:19:37,868 --> 00:19:40,268 Speaker 4: It's not it doesn't matter how I feel. So I 498 00:19:40,268 --> 00:19:43,308 Speaker 4: don't buy that excuse. I think John Haball, there's a. 499 00:19:43,268 --> 00:19:47,148 Speaker 9: Distrust right now because you looked at your defense struggle, 500 00:19:47,268 --> 00:19:49,708 Speaker 9: you look at Lamar Jackson, you look at everything you've 501 00:19:49,708 --> 00:19:51,588 Speaker 9: been able to do that game. If you had to 502 00:19:51,588 --> 00:19:54,468 Speaker 9: put your money on one person, put it on eight. 503 00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:56,188 Speaker 9: I don't know why there was a regression. I don't 504 00:19:56,228 --> 00:19:58,348 Speaker 9: know why there was a distrust in that moment, but 505 00:19:58,388 --> 00:20:00,188 Speaker 9: it cost him man because this is a game they 506 00:20:00,268 --> 00:20:01,548 Speaker 9: needed and they lost it. 507 00:20:02,068 --> 00:20:03,908 Speaker 2: Really, it's really concerning how many things you could come 508 00:20:03,988 --> 00:20:05,748 Speaker 2: up with time that we're done to you during it. 509 00:20:05,828 --> 00:20:07,668 Speaker 3: I got punched in the gut, I got kicked in 510 00:20:07,668 --> 00:20:08,028 Speaker 3: the shin. 511 00:20:08,188 --> 00:20:14,188 Speaker 9: I got That's life playing in the AFC. No offensive steely. 512 00:20:14,788 --> 00:20:16,268 Speaker 9: You get hit, but you got to be able to 513 00:20:16,308 --> 00:20:16,548 Speaker 9: hit that. 514 00:20:16,788 --> 00:20:19,428 Speaker 1: You're still though. The way that Willy hits this table, 515 00:20:19,548 --> 00:20:21,908 Speaker 1: this table is going to break. That's a powerful man 516 00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:23,988 Speaker 1: right there. He pounds on that thing like a gamble. 517 00:20:24,828 --> 00:20:26,908 Speaker 2: All right, so let's hear what Willy and company have 518 00:20:26,948 --> 00:20:29,028 Speaker 2: to say about this. The Giants we were talking about 519 00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:31,348 Speaker 2: this yesterday as well, and their head coach feels like 520 00:20:31,388 --> 00:20:33,268 Speaker 2: they have a decision to make Brian's able met with 521 00:20:33,308 --> 00:20:36,548 Speaker 2: the media on Monday after watching the Giants unfold against 522 00:20:36,588 --> 00:20:37,588 Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders. 523 00:20:37,828 --> 00:20:40,268 Speaker 3: And now we're thinking quarterback talk, right. 524 00:20:41,788 --> 00:20:46,788 Speaker 4: Do you intend to start Russell Wilson this week? Yes? Yep? Okay? 525 00:20:46,948 --> 00:20:47,588 Speaker 4: Was that I mean? 526 00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:50,468 Speaker 12: And after a game, you know, it's an emotional game, 527 00:20:52,268 --> 00:20:54,988 Speaker 12: it's a tough game. You didn't play particularly well, I 528 00:20:55,028 --> 00:20:58,108 Speaker 12: would say collectively. But in terms of making any of 529 00:20:58,108 --> 00:21:02,508 Speaker 12: those decisions really at any position or schematic changes, I'd 530 00:21:02,588 --> 00:21:05,788 Speaker 12: like to, you know, do with a clearhead and watch 531 00:21:06,068 --> 00:21:09,828 Speaker 12: watch the tape. And again, like I said yesterday, that 532 00:21:10,028 --> 00:21:14,308 Speaker 12: that game wasn't it doesn't fall on Russell Wilson. You know, 533 00:21:14,468 --> 00:21:17,668 Speaker 12: you got to do a better job collectively coaching, playing, 534 00:21:18,308 --> 00:21:19,748 Speaker 12: But Russell be the started. 535 00:21:21,068 --> 00:21:23,628 Speaker 2: So what Davil's implying here is that all of us 536 00:21:23,788 --> 00:21:28,068 Speaker 2: trying to interpret his noncommittal nature about the quarterback. On Sunday, 537 00:21:28,068 --> 00:21:30,028 Speaker 2: He's like, well, well, I just wanted to watch the film. 538 00:21:30,108 --> 00:21:31,108 Speaker 3: Of course, you know. 539 00:21:31,148 --> 00:21:33,988 Speaker 2: Two word answer yes and yep, that Russell Wilson is starting. 540 00:21:34,468 --> 00:21:35,428 Speaker 3: Nancy, what's your take on this? 541 00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:37,188 Speaker 5: Well, I did watch the film yesterday. 542 00:21:37,228 --> 00:21:38,748 Speaker 8: I went back and watched this game, and I can 543 00:21:38,748 --> 00:21:40,908 Speaker 8: count on one hand amount of times that Russell Wilson 544 00:21:40,948 --> 00:21:43,588 Speaker 8: had a clean pocket. I can also say that they 545 00:21:43,588 --> 00:21:46,228 Speaker 8: didn't run the ball extremely well. However, I can also 546 00:21:46,268 --> 00:21:48,468 Speaker 8: count on one time, one hand amount of times that 547 00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:50,748 Speaker 8: I saw Russell Wilson kind of cower when he saw 548 00:21:50,788 --> 00:21:52,788 Speaker 8: some pressure coming. That's one thing that stood up for me, 549 00:21:52,828 --> 00:21:55,148 Speaker 8: and I know, Willie, you can attest to this. Nothing's 550 00:21:55,228 --> 00:21:58,068 Speaker 8: worse for a teammate than when you see a quarterback 551 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:00,828 Speaker 8: when he has pressure already start to fall. 552 00:22:00,588 --> 00:22:01,388 Speaker 5: Down to the ground. 553 00:22:01,428 --> 00:22:03,988 Speaker 8: And I saw that a handful of time from Russell Wilson. 554 00:22:04,388 --> 00:22:06,508 Speaker 8: Times where he had people in in his face, and 555 00:22:06,628 --> 00:22:09,548 Speaker 8: instead of stepping up and taking hits, he kind of 556 00:22:09,628 --> 00:22:10,268 Speaker 8: just gave up. 557 00:22:10,308 --> 00:22:11,748 Speaker 5: He kind of just crowed up. 558 00:22:12,108 --> 00:22:14,828 Speaker 8: Or he did things where he would just throw the 559 00:22:14,868 --> 00:22:17,228 Speaker 8: ball in areas where there are no receivers, or in 560 00:22:17,508 --> 00:22:19,868 Speaker 8: there were a receiver, there was a receiver in the area, 561 00:22:19,908 --> 00:22:21,388 Speaker 8: but you know that he was going to catch the ball. 562 00:22:21,388 --> 00:22:23,108 Speaker 8: That was the thing that if I had to look 563 00:22:23,148 --> 00:22:25,188 Speaker 8: at Russell Wilson and something that he did that I 564 00:22:25,228 --> 00:22:28,308 Speaker 8: put I put on this on him on was that 565 00:22:28,588 --> 00:22:32,028 Speaker 8: was there were times where you could have just stood 566 00:22:32,068 --> 00:22:33,668 Speaker 8: in there and you could have taken a shot and 567 00:22:33,708 --> 00:22:35,588 Speaker 8: delivered a perfect pass, but instead he. 568 00:22:35,628 --> 00:22:37,468 Speaker 5: Kind of just crowed up and went down. 569 00:22:37,548 --> 00:22:39,468 Speaker 8: So I do think there are a lot of other 570 00:22:39,548 --> 00:22:43,908 Speaker 8: factors besides Russell Wilson, but I could definitely hope Russell 571 00:22:43,908 --> 00:22:44,468 Speaker 8: Wilson to that. 572 00:22:44,908 --> 00:22:46,748 Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you, but I think this also 573 00:22:46,828 --> 00:22:49,268 Speaker 9: falls on Brian da Bow. You talk about the Commanders 574 00:22:49,308 --> 00:22:51,908 Speaker 9: being a division rival, how you not jacked up for that? 575 00:22:52,108 --> 00:22:53,108 Speaker 4: Especially week one? 576 00:22:53,228 --> 00:22:56,348 Speaker 9: This is the third straight season opener where they scored 577 00:22:56,468 --> 00:22:59,868 Speaker 9: zero touchdowns, going four four sixteen On third down, they 578 00:22:59,908 --> 00:23:04,388 Speaker 9: got stopped inside of the five twice. Yeah, Russell Wilson 579 00:23:04,548 --> 00:23:06,308 Speaker 9: is who he is at this point, whether you believe 580 00:23:06,348 --> 00:23:09,028 Speaker 9: it or not, but this falls on Brian Dable. 581 00:23:09,108 --> 00:23:10,788 Speaker 4: You have to figure out how can you. 582 00:23:10,748 --> 00:23:13,268 Speaker 9: Get this offense going because what we saw against the 583 00:23:13,268 --> 00:23:15,628 Speaker 9: command is what's bad for TV. I think a lot 584 00:23:15,708 --> 00:23:19,108 Speaker 9: of people, especially Giants fans fans have a blind walk 585 00:23:19,148 --> 00:23:21,228 Speaker 9: into the season with blind faith, believing that Dave Ball 586 00:23:21,348 --> 00:23:22,828 Speaker 9: was going to change, Russell was going to be the 587 00:23:22,828 --> 00:23:24,628 Speaker 9: difference and we were going to see a different outfit 588 00:23:24,908 --> 00:23:25,548 Speaker 9: on Sunday. 589 00:23:25,748 --> 00:23:29,428 Speaker 4: It didn't happen. I don't blame an Malik. 590 00:23:29,228 --> 00:23:32,988 Speaker 9: Neighbors for being mad and upset and throwing his helmet 591 00:23:33,028 --> 00:23:36,148 Speaker 9: and all that nonsense, because he's watching this team look 592 00:23:36,228 --> 00:23:39,868 Speaker 9: like a repeated last year with Russell Wilson. So Brian 593 00:23:39,948 --> 00:23:42,028 Speaker 9: Dabele has to figure out how he like the spark 594 00:23:42,028 --> 00:23:43,908 Speaker 9: and a fire into this team because what that was 595 00:23:43,948 --> 00:23:45,108 Speaker 9: on Sunday, that's. 596 00:23:44,948 --> 00:23:46,948 Speaker 4: Not going to get done. Yeah, you're all over it. 597 00:23:47,348 --> 00:23:49,508 Speaker 1: I like Dable so much as a guy, I really 598 00:23:49,548 --> 00:23:52,348 Speaker 1: do as a coach man, I'm sitting here watching him 599 00:23:52,348 --> 00:23:54,228 Speaker 1: do that press comes. There is no kind of hell 600 00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:56,268 Speaker 1: as a head coach like being asked to clarify who 601 00:23:56,308 --> 00:23:58,308 Speaker 1: your starting quarterback is. If you're being asked that question. 602 00:23:58,388 --> 00:24:00,868 Speaker 1: Things are going terribly. It's only one game in. I 603 00:24:00,868 --> 00:24:02,548 Speaker 1: am not surprised at all. I said it yesterday. I 604 00:24:02,588 --> 00:24:04,988 Speaker 1: think Russe will start Week two. Has just had so 605 00:24:05,148 --> 00:24:08,028 Speaker 1: much conviction and insistence since this whole thing. 606 00:24:07,948 --> 00:24:09,868 Speaker 4: Started that Russ is the starter. Russ is the starter. 607 00:24:10,508 --> 00:24:12,228 Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, Like, I think. 608 00:24:12,268 --> 00:24:13,988 Speaker 1: Everything needs to be on the table, though you're going 609 00:24:13,988 --> 00:24:18,548 Speaker 1: to Dallas being on the table meaning two series pull him, 610 00:24:18,668 --> 00:24:21,228 Speaker 1: halftime pulling, like, I think an in game change has 611 00:24:21,268 --> 00:24:23,508 Speaker 1: to be on the table if he looks nearly as 612 00:24:23,628 --> 00:24:26,628 Speaker 1: flat or the offense look says flat. I don't think 613 00:24:26,628 --> 00:24:28,428 Speaker 1: you want to go oh and too start the division 614 00:24:28,548 --> 00:24:31,348 Speaker 1: like and then a not competitive owing two. If you 615 00:24:31,428 --> 00:24:33,628 Speaker 1: come out and Russ fumbles on the first drive and 616 00:24:33,628 --> 00:24:35,068 Speaker 1: they punt on the secondary, let's. 617 00:24:34,868 --> 00:24:36,468 Speaker 4: Go what the hell are we doing? 618 00:24:36,828 --> 00:24:40,108 Speaker 1: If anything else willly, it's like you mentioned the incompletion 619 00:24:40,188 --> 00:24:42,628 Speaker 1: in the Bad Football Bad but like just all the 620 00:24:42,748 --> 00:24:45,468 Speaker 1: vibes were off immediately for the Giants. You don't want 621 00:24:45,508 --> 00:24:48,788 Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors staring off into space on the bench. Honestly, 622 00:24:48,788 --> 00:24:51,068 Speaker 1: you know, my hot take is like if you don't 623 00:24:51,068 --> 00:24:57,228 Speaker 1: think that Dart is ready put Jamison. The sideline will 624 00:24:57,268 --> 00:25:00,108 Speaker 1: immediately respond. Jamis is gonna do a lot of things. 625 00:25:00,108 --> 00:25:01,708 Speaker 1: He's gonna start chucking it. He's gonna go up and 626 00:25:01,748 --> 00:25:04,548 Speaker 1: down the field. You're gonna get some juice. So I 627 00:25:04,588 --> 00:25:07,628 Speaker 1: just come back to this like there is no obligation 628 00:25:07,748 --> 00:25:10,748 Speaker 1: the Giants had to Russell Wilson, not long term, not 629 00:25:10,868 --> 00:25:12,988 Speaker 1: in the past. There's no skins on the wall. It's 630 00:25:12,988 --> 00:25:14,908 Speaker 1: not like, well russ has there it. No, he hasn't 631 00:25:14,948 --> 00:25:16,788 Speaker 1: earned anything, not with the Giants. 632 00:25:16,828 --> 00:25:18,788 Speaker 4: It's not like that. So you're owing one. 633 00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:21,108 Speaker 1: If you going too in the division, it's like we're 634 00:25:21,108 --> 00:25:22,188 Speaker 1: already turning the page. 635 00:25:22,268 --> 00:25:24,868 Speaker 4: So if you want to start them, Dable knows best. 636 00:25:24,948 --> 00:25:27,628 Speaker 1: I really believe that, but I would be very very 637 00:25:27,708 --> 00:25:29,708 Speaker 1: quick to pull them if it's this is not going 638 00:25:29,708 --> 00:25:31,508 Speaker 1: anywhere again, or it's just gonna be the same this. 639 00:25:31,628 --> 00:25:33,708 Speaker 9: Giant and we can't let this Giants defense off the hook. 640 00:25:33,748 --> 00:25:35,068 Speaker 9: I thought they were gonna be one of the best 641 00:25:35,068 --> 00:25:37,188 Speaker 9: front sevens in all of the NFL. This secondary with 642 00:25:37,268 --> 00:25:39,908 Speaker 9: non existent, and I thought this front defensive line didn't 643 00:25:39,988 --> 00:25:42,028 Speaker 9: have the impact that I expected. So if you're the 644 00:25:42,068 --> 00:25:45,508 Speaker 9: Giants right now in total as a team, you gotta 645 00:25:45,588 --> 00:25:48,748 Speaker 9: be better. I understand Andrew Thomas wasn't on the field 646 00:25:48,908 --> 00:25:50,908 Speaker 9: to kind of help that offensive line, but you got 647 00:25:50,948 --> 00:25:53,028 Speaker 9: to find some type of run identity and you have 648 00:25:53,108 --> 00:25:55,388 Speaker 9: to have you have to be better a situational football. 649 00:25:55,428 --> 00:25:57,548 Speaker 4: So going forward, Bryan able do something. 650 00:25:57,628 --> 00:25:59,268 Speaker 9: If you need some liquid depth, if you need to 651 00:25:59,708 --> 00:26:03,868 Speaker 9: go up, we flip the tables and do anything, do something. 652 00:26:03,988 --> 00:26:05,188 Speaker 4: Because I can't be it. 653 00:26:05,388 --> 00:26:08,228 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up that front because they 654 00:26:08,268 --> 00:26:10,508 Speaker 8: got to figure out how are you gonna use Abdul Carter? 655 00:26:10,708 --> 00:26:13,348 Speaker 8: Like I keep seeing him run on and off the field. 656 00:26:13,348 --> 00:26:15,748 Speaker 8: They use him as spies. I think they're just trying 657 00:26:15,788 --> 00:26:18,748 Speaker 8: to figure him out. I do like Brian Burns. I 658 00:26:18,748 --> 00:26:22,188 Speaker 8: thought Brian Burns he played he played fast, he played physical. 659 00:26:22,388 --> 00:26:23,828 Speaker 8: But they need to figure out what they're going to 660 00:26:23,908 --> 00:26:24,988 Speaker 8: do with the rest of that D line. 661 00:26:25,028 --> 00:26:26,628 Speaker 5: They have a dominant D line or. 662 00:26:26,548 --> 00:26:30,268 Speaker 8: The potential to be one, especially with Abdull Carter. Figure 663 00:26:30,268 --> 00:26:31,548 Speaker 8: out what we're going to do with him and roll 664 00:26:31,588 --> 00:26:34,828 Speaker 8: the dice because it's coming fast for the New York Giants. 665 00:26:35,148 --> 00:26:36,468 Speaker 3: It's a great point by all of you. 666 00:26:36,828 --> 00:26:38,828 Speaker 2: And yeah, the defense was supposed to be the relied 667 00:26:38,908 --> 00:26:41,588 Speaker 2: upon thing when Giants needed it. But that's not saying 668 00:26:41,668 --> 00:26:44,028 Speaker 2: that the Commanders also didn't show up and their offense 669 00:26:44,188 --> 00:26:47,628 Speaker 2: was ready and roaring to go week one. So what 670 00:26:47,668 --> 00:26:50,068 Speaker 2: do you make of Washington as they move forward with this? 671 00:26:50,268 --> 00:26:52,508 Speaker 2: You know, Jayden and Daniels after seeing two second year 672 00:26:52,588 --> 00:26:54,228 Speaker 2: quarterbacks go ahead to head modern football? 673 00:26:54,268 --> 00:26:56,068 Speaker 3: What that could look like? Jayden looked great. 674 00:26:56,228 --> 00:26:57,108 Speaker 5: Yeah, jay looked great. 675 00:26:57,148 --> 00:26:59,908 Speaker 8: You know, look better as the defense again, guys, this 676 00:26:59,948 --> 00:27:02,428 Speaker 8: is a dan Quinn defense. Like I kept saying that 677 00:27:02,548 --> 00:27:04,628 Speaker 8: this is year two under dan Quinn, and they look 678 00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:08,068 Speaker 8: like it. Dan Quinn in Dallas was one of the 679 00:27:08,068 --> 00:27:10,788 Speaker 8: best defenses that we've seen in a long long time. 680 00:27:10,908 --> 00:27:13,508 Speaker 8: Now he has what he has in Washington, and I 681 00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:16,068 Speaker 8: can't think of a better scenario for Jayden Daniels in 682 00:27:16,108 --> 00:27:19,148 Speaker 8: that offense, who is explosive, to have a defense that 683 00:27:19,228 --> 00:27:21,668 Speaker 8: helps bring that floor up a little higher for you, 684 00:27:21,788 --> 00:27:23,828 Speaker 8: like you don't have to play a perfect game anymore. 685 00:27:23,948 --> 00:27:26,068 Speaker 8: But then when you have Jaden and Daniels continuing to 686 00:27:26,148 --> 00:27:30,068 Speaker 8: show that poise, continuing to be explosive, and Deebo Samuel 687 00:27:30,108 --> 00:27:31,868 Speaker 8: doing what Deebo Samuel has done when he was with 688 00:27:31,908 --> 00:27:34,668 Speaker 8: the Niners, I think it's dangerous for the Washington Commanders 689 00:27:34,668 --> 00:27:37,868 Speaker 8: and the NFC East for them because of that whole factor. 690 00:27:38,108 --> 00:27:39,388 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you hit it right on the head. 691 00:27:39,388 --> 00:27:41,628 Speaker 9: I think the one guy I wasn't worried about, Jayden Daniels, 692 00:27:41,628 --> 00:27:42,948 Speaker 9: I expected him to be money good. 693 00:27:43,188 --> 00:27:44,668 Speaker 4: I think it was Deebo SAMs For me. 694 00:27:44,948 --> 00:27:46,268 Speaker 9: I didn't know if he was going to get twenty 695 00:27:46,468 --> 00:27:48,428 Speaker 9: twenty three debo or if he was going to get 696 00:27:48,468 --> 00:27:49,948 Speaker 9: see a guy who was a shell of himself. 697 00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:52,788 Speaker 4: He looked good, he looked fit, he looked he looked trimmed. 698 00:27:52,908 --> 00:27:54,388 Speaker 9: They were able to get him in the ball and 699 00:27:54,428 --> 00:27:57,108 Speaker 9: they have packages designed for him. He was effective, and 700 00:27:57,108 --> 00:27:58,668 Speaker 9: I think he needed to make his He needed to 701 00:27:58,668 --> 00:28:00,788 Speaker 9: make his presence felt early, and they did that. 702 00:28:00,948 --> 00:28:02,028 Speaker 4: So congrats to Deebo. 703 00:28:02,228 --> 00:28:05,268 Speaker 9: It looked like he's back back and ready to all Right, 704 00:28:05,308 --> 00:28:05,748 Speaker 9: we still. 705 00:28:05,628 --> 00:28:06,748 Speaker 4: Got to talk about what you got. 706 00:28:06,908 --> 00:28:08,188 Speaker 3: Well, I've still got to talk about. 707 00:28:07,988 --> 00:28:10,508 Speaker 2: The Bengals moving on on GMFB, we got to talk 708 00:28:10,508 --> 00:28:13,708 Speaker 2: about both those quarterbacks that left the New York area 709 00:28:13,908 --> 00:28:16,988 Speaker 2: in Daniel Jones and Aaron Rodgers, plus the Chiefs and 710 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:19,428 Speaker 2: the Lions and their own one status after Week one, 711 00:28:19,508 --> 00:28:22,668 Speaker 2: Still Tuesday, we're still reeling both good and bad from 712 00:28:22,668 --> 00:28:23,948 Speaker 2: the regular season start. 713 00:28:23,828 --> 00:28:26,588 Speaker 3: For twenty twenty five, A lot of topics to get to. 714 00:28:26,668 --> 00:28:28,708 Speaker 2: All right, buckle up, we got another twenty three minutes 715 00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:29,268 Speaker 2: on GMFB. 716 00:28:32,828 --> 00:28:33,148 Speaker 3: Listen. 717 00:28:33,188 --> 00:28:36,108 Speaker 2: We fight for the sake of optimism on Good Morning Football. 718 00:28:36,188 --> 00:28:38,028 Speaker 2: So when I say the following sentence, just know the 719 00:28:38,028 --> 00:28:39,788 Speaker 2: segment's going to take a turn. The Chiefs and the 720 00:28:39,788 --> 00:28:42,868 Speaker 2: Alliance both took losses in Week one. It happened. It's 721 00:28:42,908 --> 00:28:46,028 Speaker 2: the reality. But we spin the wheel forward. It's only 722 00:28:46,108 --> 00:28:48,228 Speaker 2: the second time in the last two decades that both 723 00:28:48,308 --> 00:28:50,468 Speaker 2: number one seeds from the previous season. 724 00:28:50,148 --> 00:28:51,228 Speaker 3: Have started this way. 725 00:28:51,508 --> 00:28:55,388 Speaker 2: So first let's hear from Patrick Mahomes and Dan Campbell 726 00:28:55,428 --> 00:28:59,108 Speaker 2: about those Week one losses, and then we look ahead. 727 00:29:00,668 --> 00:29:02,388 Speaker 13: I think it's just a it's a learning moment for 728 00:29:02,428 --> 00:29:04,948 Speaker 13: the especially the young guys and the teams. We're gonna 729 00:29:05,108 --> 00:29:06,748 Speaker 13: we're gonna get everybody's best and we have to play 730 00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:09,148 Speaker 13: up to that standard if you want to win football games, 731 00:29:09,188 --> 00:29:12,828 Speaker 13: and I feel like we didn't play to that standard today. Everybody, offense, defense, 732 00:29:12,868 --> 00:29:15,428 Speaker 13: special teams. The credits to the Chargers. They put a 733 00:29:15,428 --> 00:29:17,428 Speaker 13: great they had a great plan, came in and played 734 00:29:17,428 --> 00:29:18,988 Speaker 13: great football and beat us. And now we have to 735 00:29:19,068 --> 00:29:20,788 Speaker 13: learn from that and knowing that next week's going to 736 00:29:20,788 --> 00:29:21,468 Speaker 13: be just the stuff. 737 00:29:21,748 --> 00:29:24,348 Speaker 14: We made some critical errors at the worst times possible, 738 00:29:24,988 --> 00:29:27,508 Speaker 14: and you don't do those, you know, you take those 739 00:29:27,508 --> 00:29:30,788 Speaker 14: out of the equation, and it's it looks different, you know, 740 00:29:30,868 --> 00:29:33,548 Speaker 14: it's you feel like it's goould be a totally different scenario. 741 00:29:33,748 --> 00:29:37,188 Speaker 14: But we did make those critical errors at the worst time. 742 00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:39,748 Speaker 14: So man, we're going to learn from it. We'll clean 743 00:29:39,788 --> 00:29:41,628 Speaker 14: it up. It gives us a little broader where we're 744 00:29:41,628 --> 00:29:43,028 Speaker 14: at Game one, and that's. 745 00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:45,188 Speaker 4: Okay, all right. 746 00:29:45,228 --> 00:29:47,188 Speaker 2: So the Chiefs had to go to Brazil and the 747 00:29:47,228 --> 00:29:49,308 Speaker 2: Lions had to go to Lambeau, which I'm sure feels 748 00:29:49,348 --> 00:29:51,348 Speaker 2: like Gon to be territory at some point, and both 749 00:29:51,348 --> 00:29:53,108 Speaker 2: these teams are now one. One man said, you have 750 00:29:53,188 --> 00:29:55,908 Speaker 2: to pick. Do you have a team? Which team are 751 00:29:55,948 --> 00:29:57,988 Speaker 2: you more confident in right now? The seams of the Lions? 752 00:29:57,988 --> 00:29:58,428 Speaker 4: You have to pick? 753 00:29:58,548 --> 00:29:59,748 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got the Chiefs. 754 00:29:59,748 --> 00:30:02,868 Speaker 8: I'm more confident in his Chiefs guys, And Dan Campbell 755 00:30:02,908 --> 00:30:05,188 Speaker 8: said this, he said, it looked different. Yeah, the Packers 756 00:30:05,188 --> 00:30:06,988 Speaker 8: look different, and so did the Lions. I did not 757 00:30:07,068 --> 00:30:10,068 Speaker 8: expect the Packers defensively to look as dominant as they 758 00:30:10,108 --> 00:30:12,468 Speaker 8: did against the Lions team that I think we've been 759 00:30:12,468 --> 00:30:13,428 Speaker 8: accustomed to see in. 760 00:30:13,388 --> 00:30:15,388 Speaker 5: This physicality at which they play with. 761 00:30:15,428 --> 00:30:15,588 Speaker 4: Now. 762 00:30:15,588 --> 00:30:18,228 Speaker 5: I know they have a new offensive coordinator, however. 763 00:30:18,108 --> 00:30:21,388 Speaker 8: They still have the same pieces to see Michael Parsons 764 00:30:21,428 --> 00:30:23,708 Speaker 8: in that front attack, that old line that I'm just 765 00:30:23,788 --> 00:30:25,588 Speaker 8: used to guys. We're just used to seeing these guys 766 00:30:25,668 --> 00:30:28,628 Speaker 8: set the tone. We're used to seeing them change and 767 00:30:28,788 --> 00:30:31,148 Speaker 8: move the line of scrimmage, and they've They've been doing 768 00:30:31,148 --> 00:30:31,988 Speaker 8: it for the. 769 00:30:31,908 --> 00:30:33,308 Speaker 4: Past four or five years. 770 00:30:33,908 --> 00:30:35,788 Speaker 5: So far, I have not seen a. 771 00:30:35,668 --> 00:30:39,188 Speaker 8: Detroit Lions team under Dan Campbell be able to get 772 00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:40,348 Speaker 8: dominated like they. 773 00:30:40,228 --> 00:30:41,668 Speaker 5: Did against the Packers. 774 00:30:41,708 --> 00:30:43,508 Speaker 8: That was a little alarming for me. But as far 775 00:30:43,588 --> 00:30:46,828 Speaker 8: as the Chiefs and the Readers are coach, you are 776 00:30:46,828 --> 00:30:49,468 Speaker 8: well coached. You got to see how they how well 777 00:30:49,508 --> 00:30:52,028 Speaker 8: they coached they were when they got that field goal 778 00:30:52,028 --> 00:30:54,908 Speaker 8: off with one second left before the half. Yeah, Patrick 779 00:30:54,948 --> 00:30:59,028 Speaker 8: Mahomes as your quarterback and that defense, it will. 780 00:30:58,828 --> 00:31:00,308 Speaker 5: Always carry you to the playoffs. 781 00:31:00,308 --> 00:31:03,508 Speaker 8: So I have no doubts and no kind of worries 782 00:31:03,548 --> 00:31:05,268 Speaker 8: when it comes to the Kens City Chiefs. They are 783 00:31:05,308 --> 00:31:08,428 Speaker 8: in the best division in the entire NFL with. 784 00:31:08,388 --> 00:31:11,108 Speaker 5: The AFC West. That's going to happen. But I have 785 00:31:11,148 --> 00:31:13,548 Speaker 5: no concerns really with the Chiefs. 786 00:31:15,188 --> 00:31:15,428 Speaker 4: Yeah. 787 00:31:15,468 --> 00:31:17,788 Speaker 9: For me, I'm not worried about the Lions. Dan Campbell's 788 00:31:17,868 --> 00:31:20,588 Speaker 9: Lions don't pout. They punched back just because how they built, 789 00:31:20,668 --> 00:31:22,588 Speaker 9: especially with the character and men they have on that team. 790 00:31:22,588 --> 00:31:25,428 Speaker 9: You talk about Saint Brown, Jared Golf, La Porter and company. 791 00:31:25,428 --> 00:31:27,188 Speaker 9: I expect them to be good. Sure, they have to 792 00:31:27,188 --> 00:31:30,028 Speaker 9: clean up the offensive line issues. The material of this 793 00:31:30,108 --> 00:31:32,108 Speaker 9: office line is young, and they have to be better 794 00:31:32,148 --> 00:31:34,348 Speaker 9: running the ball. They will get that fixed, I think 795 00:31:34,468 --> 00:31:36,988 Speaker 9: right now. The emphasis falls on this office of Corner 796 00:31:37,028 --> 00:31:39,108 Speaker 9: and Johnny Morty. He's gonna have to get this offensive 797 00:31:39,188 --> 00:31:43,148 Speaker 9: unit running and being a lot fluid and smoother. But overall, man, 798 00:31:43,188 --> 00:31:45,548 Speaker 9: they have all their tangibles, everything they need. I think 799 00:31:45,788 --> 00:31:48,508 Speaker 9: once they get home, you know it's gonna be noisy. 800 00:31:48,508 --> 00:31:49,188 Speaker 4: People are gonna be. 801 00:31:49,228 --> 00:31:51,308 Speaker 9: Rocking and ready to see the Lions come out the tunnel. 802 00:31:51,348 --> 00:31:53,028 Speaker 9: They're gonna be ready for the fight. I expect the 803 00:31:53,068 --> 00:31:54,308 Speaker 9: lines to get right back on track. 804 00:31:54,388 --> 00:31:56,708 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the prism of week two and 805 00:31:56,748 --> 00:31:58,828 Speaker 1: the opponents. I like the Lions too. The lines are 806 00:31:58,868 --> 00:32:01,068 Speaker 1: hum against the Bears. The Bears had a lot of 807 00:32:01,148 --> 00:32:03,548 Speaker 1: faults last night. I think the Lions will be more comfortable. 808 00:32:03,908 --> 00:32:05,988 Speaker 1: I think that the Chiefs game is really interesting. So 809 00:32:06,028 --> 00:32:09,748 Speaker 1: they're home against the Eagles. If the Chiefs lose this game, 810 00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:12,748 Speaker 1: like they lose twenty six to twenty four on a 811 00:32:12,828 --> 00:32:15,428 Speaker 1: last second field goal by the Eagles, is that a 812 00:32:15,468 --> 00:32:18,388 Speaker 1: positive thing? Like they were down thirty four to nothing 813 00:32:18,428 --> 00:32:20,308 Speaker 1: to the same team in the Super Bowl. So if 814 00:32:20,308 --> 00:32:22,548 Speaker 1: they play really tough and just the Eagles make a 815 00:32:22,548 --> 00:32:24,908 Speaker 1: couple more plays and win, are you looking at the 816 00:32:24,988 --> 00:32:26,228 Speaker 1: Chiefs like progress? 817 00:32:26,348 --> 00:32:26,748 Speaker 4: All right? 818 00:32:26,788 --> 00:32:29,348 Speaker 1: You fought, you kept them off Mahomes, You did this, 819 00:32:29,468 --> 00:32:31,548 Speaker 1: you did that, you block Jaalen Carter. As long as 820 00:32:31,588 --> 00:32:33,908 Speaker 1: he doesn't spit on Mahomes before the first snap, he'll 821 00:32:33,948 --> 00:32:36,228 Speaker 1: be out there and playing. Like I just wonder, like Willie, 822 00:32:36,908 --> 00:32:39,188 Speaker 1: if they have a very very close game, a tough, 823 00:32:39,228 --> 00:32:41,708 Speaker 1: competitive game against the Eagles and lose like on the 824 00:32:41,748 --> 00:32:43,468 Speaker 1: last play, are you like, all right, Chiefs, you got 825 00:32:43,508 --> 00:32:43,948 Speaker 1: way better? 826 00:32:44,068 --> 00:32:45,548 Speaker 4: Or is that like a loss? Is a loss? No? 827 00:32:45,628 --> 00:32:47,468 Speaker 9: I said here before what I said, we're witnessing an 828 00:32:47,508 --> 00:32:49,588 Speaker 9: end of an errand people laughed at me, Willie, what 829 00:32:49,628 --> 00:32:50,388 Speaker 9: are you talking about? 830 00:32:50,428 --> 00:32:52,388 Speaker 4: This team made it to the Super Bowl last. 831 00:32:52,308 --> 00:32:54,828 Speaker 9: Year, but now you talking about no exaviert Worthy for 832 00:32:54,948 --> 00:32:57,868 Speaker 9: she Rife on suspension, they have no identity to and 833 00:32:57,908 --> 00:33:01,668 Speaker 9: run game. Patrick Mahomes is forced to shoulder this whole office, 834 00:33:01,668 --> 00:33:05,308 Speaker 9: and rightfully so. He's an outstanding quarterback. But this defensive 835 00:33:05,308 --> 00:33:07,508 Speaker 9: line for the Chiefs, they only got one guy that's effective, 836 00:33:07,548 --> 00:33:10,108 Speaker 9: and that's Chris Jones. Once you neutralize him, there's some 837 00:33:10,188 --> 00:33:14,228 Speaker 9: serious lack of depth their secondary. Now you want to 838 00:33:14,268 --> 00:33:17,628 Speaker 9: sit here, tell me the Philadelphia Eagles with Jalen Hurts, 839 00:33:17,828 --> 00:33:21,428 Speaker 9: who's technically two and oh in the Super Bowl, Like, 840 00:33:21,948 --> 00:33:24,908 Speaker 9: my money's on the Eagle and why because you're going 841 00:33:24,948 --> 00:33:27,308 Speaker 9: to have a hacked off Jalen Carter. He knows how 842 00:33:27,388 --> 00:33:29,948 Speaker 9: he knows how much he let down this team. So yeah, 843 00:33:30,388 --> 00:33:33,188 Speaker 9: I think the Chiefs are if we had to go 844 00:33:33,268 --> 00:33:34,308 Speaker 9: stock up, stock down. 845 00:33:34,628 --> 00:33:36,868 Speaker 4: My stock is down on the Chiefs. That he's saying 846 00:33:36,908 --> 00:33:41,788 Speaker 4: it with his chest. What do you want me to say? 847 00:33:41,908 --> 00:33:45,028 Speaker 1: I think I'm asking a crazy question that like, could 848 00:33:45,028 --> 00:33:47,428 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have a moral victory of only losing by 849 00:33:47,428 --> 00:33:48,868 Speaker 1: a field go at home? The Chiefs, who are in 850 00:33:48,868 --> 00:33:50,988 Speaker 1: the middle of some kind of dynasty. I think I'm 851 00:33:51,028 --> 00:33:56,228 Speaker 1: asking that isn't crazy. I think it's crazy. I think 852 00:33:56,228 --> 00:33:58,468 Speaker 1: it's crazy. Ok, I think it's great. Can I can 853 00:33:58,508 --> 00:34:02,068 Speaker 1: I explain myself? I don't know if you Okay, listen. 854 00:34:03,988 --> 00:34:06,588 Speaker 8: Blessing of being at the Thursday night football game, and 855 00:34:06,628 --> 00:34:09,308 Speaker 8: I don't think any of us, any of us anticipated 856 00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:10,628 Speaker 8: that the Cowboys. 857 00:34:10,108 --> 00:34:11,868 Speaker 5: Were going to do what they did to the Eagles. 858 00:34:11,908 --> 00:34:13,908 Speaker 8: Like I know, you want to talk about the Eagles 859 00:34:13,908 --> 00:34:15,068 Speaker 8: front and all of that. 860 00:34:15,588 --> 00:34:16,868 Speaker 4: Guys, they're a slagh in there. 861 00:34:16,868 --> 00:34:18,868 Speaker 8: And if there's anybody that they missed more than Jalen 862 00:34:18,908 --> 00:34:20,908 Speaker 8: Carter was there as slay because Ceedee Lamb was having 863 00:34:20,908 --> 00:34:23,748 Speaker 8: a heyday against Dori Jackson. So I don't know who 864 00:34:23,828 --> 00:34:25,468 Speaker 8: they're going to put out there for corner. I don't 865 00:34:25,468 --> 00:34:27,588 Speaker 8: know who they're gonna be at for the front. They 866 00:34:27,588 --> 00:34:30,428 Speaker 8: have two really good inside linebackers. But I didn't think 867 00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:33,268 Speaker 8: that the two touchdowns that the Dallas Cowboys had on 868 00:34:33,308 --> 00:34:34,308 Speaker 8: them were rushing touchdowns. 869 00:34:34,348 --> 00:34:35,468 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can say Jalen. 870 00:34:35,188 --> 00:34:38,228 Speaker 8: Carter wasn't in, but we didn't anticipate that the Cowboys 871 00:34:38,268 --> 00:34:40,908 Speaker 8: were going to have as much success running the ball. 872 00:34:41,068 --> 00:34:43,708 Speaker 8: So these are two different teams. We can't look at 873 00:34:43,748 --> 00:34:45,628 Speaker 8: twenty twenty four and say, oh, this is that. No, 874 00:34:45,788 --> 00:34:48,108 Speaker 8: this is twenty twenty five. They're two different teams, two 875 00:34:48,108 --> 00:34:51,588 Speaker 8: different skill sets. Jalen Hurts had to do Superman things 876 00:34:51,628 --> 00:34:52,388 Speaker 8: to win that game. 877 00:34:53,068 --> 00:34:53,948 Speaker 4: I didn't think. 878 00:34:53,748 --> 00:34:56,628 Speaker 8: That when you look at this Chiefs team, you're not 879 00:34:56,668 --> 00:34:58,588 Speaker 8: going to be able to do all of those things 880 00:34:58,588 --> 00:35:01,228 Speaker 8: in my opinion, that you did against the Cowboys, run 881 00:35:01,268 --> 00:35:03,308 Speaker 8: around and they're not going to allow you to do that. 882 00:35:03,468 --> 00:35:05,788 Speaker 8: So with that being said, I think there has to 883 00:35:05,828 --> 00:35:08,468 Speaker 8: be a little bit more concern when it comes to 884 00:35:08,508 --> 00:35:10,748 Speaker 8: putting this end of the everything on the Chiefs because 885 00:35:10,748 --> 00:35:21,468 Speaker 8: it just it just doesn't happens. 886 00:35:16,708 --> 00:35:17,468 Speaker 4: Own the Chiefs. 887 00:35:18,268 --> 00:35:21,108 Speaker 1: I heard, I heard that you should have been MVP 888 00:35:21,188 --> 00:35:21,868 Speaker 1: even in the Super Bowl. 889 00:35:21,948 --> 00:35:23,068 Speaker 4: Laws should have