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Speaker 1: just dive into the mailbag again at John middlecoff my

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Speaker 1: Instagram fire in the DMS. We will start with Jonah.

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Speaker 1: What's exciting about the Bears in the paths is they

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Speaker 1: feel like they can be good for years to come.

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Speaker 1: They to have great young coaches, a high end coordinator

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Speaker 1: who likely will not be a head coach, and a

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Speaker 1: young core. What do you think the difference makers between

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Speaker 1: teams who have a good season or two and teams

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Speaker 1: who can sustain high level of play? Well, it gets

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Speaker 1: down to two things, quarterback play and coaching. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think you're seeing this with the Lions. I get

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Speaker 1: a lot of dms. I get a lot of people conversate.

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Speaker 1: Have you know, Ben Johnson is just a fascinating individual.

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Speaker 1: Is anytime the head coach is a guy like a

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh brother, you know John Harbaugh. I guess they are brothers,

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Speaker 1: John and Jim, Dan Campbell, Mike Tomlin. They can be

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Speaker 1: pretty quarterback de Pete Carroll, right, and you know these

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Speaker 1: guys all have philosophical beliefs, right, Jim Harbaugh running the ball,

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Speaker 1: running between the tackles and something he's always gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll defenses his baby, and even offensively, he has

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Speaker 1: specific things that he wants to do. It's why Chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly clearly been leaking things to push back on everyone

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Speaker 1: shitting on him about that he forced him to run

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Speaker 1: Shane Waldron's offense, which is probably some validity to it, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think some of these older CEO type coaches

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Speaker 1: But like sixty times a game on offense or defense,

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, Matt Lafleur, Kevin O'Connell, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay,

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Speaker 2: They are impacting the offensive or defensive place and that

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Speaker 2: you know, Ben Johnson, his superpower is his play calling.

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Speaker 1: Clearly leadership and organization. He's good at that. But he's

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Speaker 1: So even Caleb Williams, like if he can never figure

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Speaker 1: You know, Mike Vrabel has this offensive coordinator. You know,

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Speaker 1: high end players that really really matters. My question is

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Speaker 1: regarding Michael Pennix, but not just him in general. Why

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Speaker 1: do teams draft players with long injury histories. I can

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Speaker 1: can give educated opinions on experiences, but when your team doctor,

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Speaker 1: like this, his shoulder or his knee is a ticking

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Speaker 1: more information you have, if a guy's missed as many

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Speaker 1: It's teams medical teams. You know, Danny Kanell, his dad

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Speaker 1: what the hell? There's been a lot of arguments in

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Speaker 1: don't want to say like play. They're much more robbin

426
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Speaker 1: than they are Batman. So I just think Justin Jefferson,

427
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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do a crazy trade, I'm more inclined

428
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 1: to go get a Max Crosby to go get you know,

429
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: some good tackle than I am to trade for Justin Jefferson. Now,

430
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Speaker 1: if I'm the Patriots or you know, some of these

431
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: other teams. I'm much more interested. But the forty nine ers,

432
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: the way they operate, just to me, doesn't make as

433
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Speaker 1: much sense. Appreciate the question. The question is asked before

434
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Speaker 1: the season happened, because I wholeheartedly agree that Miles Garrett

435
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: has passed TJ this year. But why is everyone thought

436
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: he is mounds above better before the season, Because aside

437
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Speaker 1: from this year, TJ was a lead in every stat

438
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: aside from quarterback pressures and has always said is sachs

439
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: don't matter as much as people think. That's why TJ

440
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: to most has never been considered as good. But now

441
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: sacks are the reason he's the best ever. I think

442
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: we're I'm not going to argue over two players. Listen,

443
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: TJ in his prime was an elite dominant player. The

444
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: force fumbles, the creating the turnovers. There was a momentum

445
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: aspect with him. He was like the defense's version of

446
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. There would be him coming around him creating

447
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: a fumble and then it would just flip. Von Miller

448
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: had this level to him. I think the arguments more

449
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: is like Miles is just a more talented player. I

450
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: think Miles is one of the most talented players ever

451
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: to be in the NFL, just physical gifts wise now

452
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: just pure sacks, Like if he ends the season with

453
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: twenty seven sacks, is he like the greatest defensive player

454
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: of all time? Like? No, I think Belichick will tell

455
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: you it's Lawrence Taylor. He's still better, and I'd agree.

456
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Speaker 1: But I think the sad part about a guy like

457
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: him and the Browns have had a couple now with

458
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas is what would you look like on like

459
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: the Ravens, or on the Rams or the Chiefs or

460
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles, just a team every single year in the

461
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: mix the Packers and we'll never know because he got

462
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Speaker 1: stuck with the Browns. Can you list your top five

463
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you would start your franchise with, assuming all

464
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Speaker 1: healthy love the pot? Well, I think you have to

465
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: factor in age. You know, Mahomes is now thirty years old,

466
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Speaker 1: So I'm going back to the world of like in

467
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: your late thirties, you're gonna start slipping. You're no longer

468
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: playing like the forty five thing. You see it with

469
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Speaker 1: Rogers at forty two. I'm not counting on anyone playing

470
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Speaker 1: into their forties. Ever again, if you're if you are

471
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: able to do that at any position, especially quarterback, that's bonus.

472
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: Most guys thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine start falling

473
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Speaker 1: off a cliff, you know. It's what Stafford's doing at

474
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: his age right now is pretty incredible. And even he's

475
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: like kind of threatened with retirement. You know, the Rams

476
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: kind of play it year by year because they're trying

477
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: to mitigate their risks. They don't want to get into

478
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Speaker 1: a position where they gave him like a three year,

479
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars deal and then going

480
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: into year two, he's falling off a cliff because of

481
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: age and wear and tear. So like Josh Allen I

482
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: think is a little younger than Patrick, but I think

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Speaker 1: when you factor in all these guys' ages, especially the

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Speaker 1: way he plays, Josh is twenty nine. I bet Lamar's

485
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: price twenty seven and Lamar this year's I mean kind

486
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: of taking a pounding. Lamar is twenty eight and he'll

487
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: be twenty nine, So I mean, how many more years

488
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: does like Lamar and Josh physically just completely dominant, like

489
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: because to me, they are much more likely to show

490
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: signs of slow down in their early to mid thirties

491
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: than just like kicking ass all through their thirties. And

492
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Patrick will be thirty one here next year, So like

493
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Speaker 1: I would bet on young guys now again, I'm a

494
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: little bit more of a renegade risk taker when it

495
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: comes to investing, So I got no problem taking some swings.

496
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: Open Door has been pretty good your boy here, and

497
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: most people would have said, I'm high on crack cocaine

498
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: to invest the amount of money I did a couple

499
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Speaker 1: of years ago, and I think it was heavily in

500
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Speaker 1: the red. Don't get me wrong, It's not like it's

501
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: always been profitable, but when that thing started ripping, it's

502
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: started ripping. So to me, I'm going young, and I

503
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: mean listen, like right now, Drake May used to talk

504
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: about a guy that is how old is Drake May

505
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: twenty three years old? Is he even that he's just

506
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: turned twenty three? He'd be pretty up there. Jayden Daniels,

507
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I would have bet the farm on him last year.

508
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: It's always a little risky with younger players because you know,

509
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: like part of what makes Josh Lamar and Patrick like,

510
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: why have such high respect for those guys They've been

511
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: doing it in such a high level for a long time.

512
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: Like part of being a great player is like Peyton Manning,

513
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, like every single year you knew

514
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: what you were getting. Some for two decades, some for

515
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: fifteen years, some for twelve, thirteen years. It's a long time.

516
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: A lot of guys, these guys are all pros, right

517
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: and especially a lot of these quarterbacks we just talked

518
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: about Sam Darnold Gino. A lot of people have had

519
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: a good couple of year run. Can you do it

520
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: for a decade? Like google Travis Kelsey stats, He's been

521
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: catching a lot of balls for a long time. That's

522
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: hard to do, and so it'd be pretty risky, but

523
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Speaker 1: I would probably be inclined to take a swing at

524
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Speaker 1: some of the young guys. The safe thing would be, like,

525
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Speaker 1: just give me Josh Allen for the next three or

526
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Speaker 1: four years, and if I win a couple of championships,

527
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: if I build my team right, then it's all worth it.

528
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: But I'd like this the same success. I mean, if

529
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Speaker 1: I'm a Patriot fan, I'm pretty high on my own

530
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: supply right now. I'm feeling pretty good. Love the show.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the NFL implementing a mercy

532
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: rule mostly to prevent unnecessary injuries in a game that's

533
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: basically over, Like the game is over as soon as

534
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: the team is up thirty in the second half. Teams

535
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: would keep their foot on the gas to end the

536
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: game rather than coast for thirty minutes, and a ton

537
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: of injuries would be prevented. I hear what you're saying,

538
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Speaker 1: but here's the problem. The NFL's business is predicated on television,

539
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: and these networks CBS, ABC Monday Night, which was thirty

540
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: to seven at halftime, Fox, Amazon Prime have spent a

541
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Speaker 1: lot of money on this inventory, and I mean a

542
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: lot of money, and in a couple of years it's

543
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: gonna cost a lot more. Well, the only way to

544
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: make your money back is to utilize that entire at

545
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, like whether the game's good

546
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: or bad, you kind of know if a game kicks

547
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: off at ten in the morning for US Pacific Standard time,

548
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: you know the game's gonna end, give or take at

549
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: one o'clock. So that network knows I have three hours,

550
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: and I have a pretty good idea when the breaks

551
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: are the TV timeouts, the quarters, the halftime to implement

552
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: my sell my advertising, which everyone wants to be associated

553
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: with football to make my money back and turn a profit.

554
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: So I listen. We're all very invested and emotional about

555
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: the sport and the game. That's why I got into

556
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: the business originally. But this is all a business, and

557
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: the way it's all paid for is that would never

558
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: in a million years be allowed ever, Cause I listen.

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00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I'm doing these live shows on like especially

560
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: Thursday or Monday night football, I'll be on my the

561
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: three and out text chain with the boys and I'll

562
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: be like, God, I wish this think at the end

563
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: at halftime, but like I'm just saying that knowing that

564
00:31:54,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: that's never going to happen. Ever, Hey, John, after tonight's

565
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: ass kicking, I feel pretty good about the Pats ability

566
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: to wrap up the division and contend for the number

567
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: one seed going forward. They should try and trade for

568
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: brock Bowers, May gets his Gronk, and we don't need

569
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: to worry about the offense, spend the rest of that

570
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: draft improving the defense. What are your thoughts. I think

571
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Raiders fans would just if they lost Crosby and brock

572
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Bauers in an offseason. I wouldn't blame any Raider fan

573
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: if you just quit. I do think Max Crosby will

574
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: be traded this offseason. But I think here's the thing

575
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: for brock Bowers. He is in a second year, so

576
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: next year, he will need a contract extension after next year,

577
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: and he's been a little banged up this year. I mean,

578
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Speaker 1: if I'm the Raiders, I'm not giving you it. Like

579
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: I can't trade. I did it with Khalil Mack. I

580
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: can't do it with this guy. So even for me

581
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: to entertain it if I was willing, the price would

582
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: be outrageous, like three ones. It's like you couldn't trade

583
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: three ones for brock Bowers, right, I mean part of

584
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: what made the Pats so good for so long. Even

585
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: do you know why the Chiefs extended their run? You

586
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: got to make trades the other way. It's on you

587
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: to hit on draft picks, right, because that's how you

588
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: build a team for sustaining success. They're much cheaper, right,

589
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: It's pretty rare. Like here's the thing with Bowers. Now,

590
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: you could argue that tight ends are a lot cheaper

591
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: than they are, But doesn't that kind of play into

592
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Why don't we just keep the guy then,

593
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: So my take would be, obviously you're not going to

594
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: just find a brock Bowers every year, but like, look

595
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: at what you've done from a skill position standpoint this

596
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: year in player acquisition, Travon Henderson, I mean, over the

597
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: last month, every other carry you see, you're like, damn,

598
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: this guy looks sweet. Kyle Williams, the wide receiver from

599
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Washington State, had a nice catch last night and he

600
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: can fly. You know, even the Digs acquisition in the offseason,

601
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good if I'm them, like, let's just

602
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: keep investing, Let's keep Why can't we use our first

603
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: round pick this year on a skill guy, on an

604
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: impact skill guy? Because the trade for brock Bauers, if

605
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: they were even willing to entertain it, I mean to me,

606
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give them away for more than, like, for

607
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Speaker 1: less than two ones, two twos and two three. I mean,

608
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: it'd be outrageous. When a coach gets fired mid season,

609
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: like day Ball or Brian Kelly, do you think they

610
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: still tune into each game that their former team plays in.

611
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I've never been a coach fired

612
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, so I can't speak

613
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: to that I haven't fired though, And I do think

614
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: your natural inclination when you're invested into something, and I

615
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: would imagine this goes for relationships too. You pay attention

616
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: right there. Is doesn't mean I don't you know you're

617
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: watching every snap, but like, think about when you're invested

618
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: into something, especially in a position like that, you probably

619
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: follow the things on social media people are telling you

620
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: a lot about them. You would still have people that

621
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: Karen like you in those buildings talking to you about

622
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: things that are messed up. So I think you're still

623
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of invested. I mean, Brian Kelly's kid plays for LSU,

624
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: and I'm sure many of you saw that viral video

625
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: of his son saying free my boy BK, singing if

626
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: I ever call my dad BK, or I ever called

627
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: my dad my boy, I probably would have got backhanded.

628
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is wrong with this kid? Is very

629
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: uncomfortable thing to watch, And I get it was you know,

630
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: his dad couldn't be there for senior night. Now, I

631
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: think this guy was like the last player in the roster,

632
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: but free my boy BK. Like everything I've seen of

633
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, that's not how he communicates. I mean I'm

634
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: fast needed by that relationship Brian Kelly's kid and Brian Kelly.

635
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: That think's got to be a weird one. I bet

636
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Dave Ball paid attention because you're also how they're doing

637
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: reflects you, right, Like when I got fired from radio,

638
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: I wanted my time slot to go belly up. Turned

639
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: out it did, but uh, I was rooted against it heavily,

640
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: and you just you'd hate listen sometimes in the car. Definitely.

641
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: When I got fired from the Eagles, I just knew

642
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people with the organization, so I kind

643
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: of just felt like I kept talking to people. It

644
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: didn't really change. So I think you naturally stalk a

645
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: little bit. Right she dumps you, You're gonna see who

646
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: she's dating on Instagram. We're just we're human beings, Like

647
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't care, insulate the noise, don't let the outside distractions.

648
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: All that shit sounds great. We're all kind of wired

649
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: the same. On the topic of Lane, what are your

650
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: thoughts on him going after the young podcaster who accurately

651
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: described him as a hope. Never mind that he immediately

652
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: proved the guy right by leaving all miss and Flames

653
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: less than twenty four hours later. Shouldn't someone in his

654
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: position be able to take the shot. Neither guy look great.

655
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: Not that it's really your mo you, but how would

656
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: you handle if someone you shit on in a podcast

657
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: where to step to you at a football game when

658
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: you talked for a living. And I've said this forever

659
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: when people get mad at me, you know, I've had

660
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: a couple occasions where guys in the NFL get mad

661
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: at me, and I say, you know the difference between

662
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: me and you, Like everything I say is public, right,

663
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: My opinions are all how I make my living. You

664
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: have all similar opinions on different stuff, but you never

665
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: say any of them publicly. So we're both have similar

666
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: takes on certain things, yet everyone knows mine. So you're

667
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: talking shit left and right about half the people you

668
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: work with and work around and play against, but you

669
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: never say that publicly. And then when you leak stuff

670
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: to the press, you say anonymous GM Like there's nothing

671
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: anonymous about anything I've said for a decade now, So

672
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: it's like, I get it. It comes with the territory.

673
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna piss some people off, But like part of

674
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: like I've always thought, the media can be a bunch

675
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: of softies. You know, they give it very well, they

676
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: don't take it very well. Part of giving it, like

677
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: if a guy wants to give it back to you

678
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: in that position. For that kid, and I actually saw

679
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: that he's like forty years old, he's crazy. In the South,

680
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: sometimes a guy can be look thirty eight or I

681
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: mean look twenty two and he's thirty eight because they

682
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: had that haircut. But what was he gonna do? He

683
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: just kind of stood there. Sometimes you can let the

684
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: guy yell at you. It's part of the deal, Like

685
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: what who cares? What's I'm gonna do? Hit him in

686
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: the face. The guy was right, he uses an analogy

687
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: that is correct, you know. And I think he even

688
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: said that Lane called him later that night and apologized

689
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: and then send him a meme of a hoe hat.

690
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: I think part of it. I wonder if Lane was

691
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 1: trying to show everybody that he was like gonna stand

692
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: up for himself. Like I think actually that had less

693
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: to do with that guy's hoe as a housewife comment

694
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: than it did about Lane's insecurity, about the whole situation.

695
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: And ultimately, I don't think Lane cares at all. I

696
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: truly don't. If you're laying right now. Think how many

697
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: enemies and people you would need to do that to

698
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: over the last four hour, four days, Like you wouldn't

699
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: even be able to keep up with it. And once

700
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: you start, he makes twelve million dollars. Who cares what

701
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: any of these people say? But like, yeah, if you

702
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: are gonna quote unquote talk some shit, you gotta take it.

703
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: And what guy gets mad at you? Like, Okay, it's life.

704
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: It's not that big a deal. I truly believe this

705
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: lane doesn't care that much at all about that comment.

706
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean truly because, like you said, the guy was

707
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: proven right. I didn't even argue this. Most coaches like

708
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: they're nomadic by nature, They're not exactly the same down type.

709
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't think we will see many nick Sabans and

710
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Dabbos Sweeney's anymore. Kirby might be the last of his

711
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: kind because he went to Georgia. It's the best program.

712
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: He could probably stay there for twenty five years. Is

713
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: Kirby smart? More likely be coaching there in ten years,

714
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: so he would have been there twenty years or be

715
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: coaching somewhere else. I also think the elephant in the

716
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: room now in the profession, you know ten twenty thirty

717
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: years ago. The money has changed so dramatically. It is

718
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: such a grind to do that job. If you could

719
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: continue doing that, especially in college, and have one hundred

720
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: million dollars in the bank, you are an all time

721
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: football addict. Are we going to see some of these

722
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: guys just get burnt out, you know, in their mid

723
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: fifties because they're like, I've been making fifteen million dollars

724
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: for last five years. I was already a millionaire before

725
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: I signed that contract. I just need a year off.

726
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see some of that more and

727
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: more with the amount of money that's getting thrown around.

728
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: You know, Lane's still trying to prove himself, right. I

729
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: don't think Lanes you could argue. I heard Rhys Davis

730
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: and Pete Dammel and Dan Wetzel talking about this, like Google,

731
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: Lane's biggest wins of his life. It's like Georgia last

732
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: year in a season that was nine and three, so

733
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: it actually didn't mean that much. He knocked Oregon out

734
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: of the playoffs in like twenty eleven. He won at

735
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: Oklahoma this year, which pretty good win. Though Matier has

736
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: not been good since he hurt his hand, it's like

737
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't have that many. You know, Kirby smarts won

738
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: a couple championships. So if in like three years, Kirby's like,

739
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: I'm burning eyes, need a break. And I even think

740
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: George would be like, oh, take the year off. You

741
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: can come back when you're ready. That's the other thing

742
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: about college football is like Georgia one hundred percent would

743
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: tell Kirby like, hey, you're off. We'll just have a

744
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: replacement for an interim for a year and then you

745
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: can come back. Can't make a whole house wife. Most

746
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: of these coaches, they're always they get bored. I mean,

747
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells coach like seven different teams. It's part of

748
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: the profession. It's not a normal industry at all. Even players,

749
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: like look at the majority, most players are two team

750
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: guys their entire career. Most players play for like three

751
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:23,719
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772
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: said he likes the head coach and the GM and

773
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: the and the roster. For the Cleveland Browns question, what

774
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: is there to like? They lose every week, They aren't

775
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: competitive most games. Why does Sefanski and Barry get so

776
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: much credit for never having done anything? They drafted a

777
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: tiny quarterback in round three. I'm sorry, you don't get

778
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: the benefit of doubt for that decision. Yeah, man, I

779
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: I I'm with you. They do have good players, right,

780
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: there's no this draft class looks good. They do have

781
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: some interesting players on the roster. To me, the franchise

782
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: is a complete joke. It is just always the same

783
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: shit over and over and over again. The drafting of

784
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks is pretty embarrassing. Let's be real. Drafting

785
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel in the third round is one of the

786
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: crazier draft picks in recent memory. It really is like

787
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: the Canny Picketts and mac Jones guys going in the

788
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: top twenty that historically would have been third round picks.

789
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Like that, that was insane. Now, granted that was in

790
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: the peak of quarterback inflation. Like if you have to

791
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: admit how much you paid for you know, a car

792
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: or house a couple of years ago, it's like, hey man,

793
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: there's peak inflation. It's like, eh man, cost of doing business. Right,

794
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: But this year Dylan Gabriel in the third round and

795
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: then back it up with Chador a couple of rounds.

796
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. It's like there's no rhyme or

797
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: reason anything they do. It's like, well, we got Mason

798
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: Graham and Quinchawn Jenkins. It's like, ah, I like those players,

799
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: but you don't have any quarterback. Yeah, this guy that's

800
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: gonna go for twenty five sacks on a four win team.

801
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is one of the most

802
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: to overrated operations in the league. You know, My stance

803
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: for a long time is they get a little bit

804
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: of a pass because they're just two highly educated guys

805
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: from Ivy League schools, and the media kind of sees

806
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: versions of themselves and highly educated people, so they go,

807
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: these are us, So, yeah, that is you. That's what

808
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: you guys would look like if you were coaching and

809
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: running a team four wins every year. Great, these other

810
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: meatheads are winning twelve. Hey, John, I'm gonna need to

811
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: talk to your guys in San Francisco. Investigate what Juwan

812
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: Jennings is saying the guys when they're on the ground.

813
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: My wife, who follows like a million forty nine or pages,

814
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: asked me the other day, She's like, what is he saying?

815
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, what could you possibly say

816
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: to piss people off that much? I mean, it's the

817
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: nature of the sport crazy. I hate the word inappropriate.

818
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: Something's inappropriate to you, that's not inappropriate to me. But

819
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: things that make people uncomfort are set all the time

820
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: in locker rooms, let alone on the field. So for Juwan,

821
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: like Shelby Harris, when you just watch Shelby Harris's rant,

822
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: you're like, like, I kind of felt Shelby Harris, but

823
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: it's like I need some Can you give me the evidence?

824
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: I need to hear some of the words, like what

825
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: is he saying? Is he doing investigative research before the

826
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: game so he knows what to bring up. I saw

827
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: John Lynch today on local radio in the Bay Area

828
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: compare Juwan Jennings to their Draymond Green, So it's he's

829
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: clearly visits the people off. I don't know, you'd probably

830
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: have to ask, like McCaffrey, more of a comment than

831
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: a question that I'd love your thoughts on. As we

832
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: wake up this morning, the top two seeds in the AFC,

833
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: in the top seed in the NFC, all of quarterbacks

834
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: from last year's draft is more of their ability in

835
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: year two or three to have an elite coaching now

836
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: and put in the right position. It goes to show

837
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: you how quickly a franchise can turn around with the

838
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: right coach. It does give you a more flexibility financially.

839
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: So having Caleb Williams making six seven million dollars gives

840
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: you a lot more wiggle room these other guys making

841
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: fifty and sixty million dollars. There is no disputing that

842
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: having bo Nick's contract allows them to be much more aggressive,

843
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: and partly because they have a bunch of dead money

844
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: from previous bad contracts, and obviously Drake May this year

845
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: they spent a bunch of money. I think as much

846
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: as obviously you know, Rabel and Ben Johnson have been awesome.

847
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: But when you have Drake May or Caleb Williams contract,

848
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: you can trade for a star left guard, you can

849
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, pay for a center. You can just do

850
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: the stuff that gives you more wiggle room. I saw

851
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: today the Steelers cut Darius Slay like they don't have

852
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: that much wiggle room. So when you give Darius Slay

853
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: one year ten million dollars and his cap hit is

854
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: ten million dollars, and you give him a nine million

855
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: dollars signing bonus, like that's a pretty big contract. Like

856
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: you can do a lot for nine million dollars. You

857
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: can get a star or maybe two out there on

858
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: the open market. So when you do that and then

859
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: by Thanksgiving he's a healthy scratch and by December he's cut.

860
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: That's an awful allocation of resources. Where when you have

861
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: the wiggle room with the quarterback contract, like you can

862
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: miss on a player or two because you just have

863
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: more room to deal with with the cap. So I

864
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: think the cap manipulation with the quarterback contract is a

865
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: massive variable that comes into play for the Bears and

866
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: the Patriots, who are very aggressive this offseason. Is McDermott underrated,

867
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: that'd be Sean McDermott. He dominated the Steelers with the

868
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: run game in defense. Yes, the Steelers aren't good, but

869
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: he seems to dominate almost every AFC opponent except you know,

870
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: one of the greatest football dynasties of all time, and

871
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: he beats them a lot in the regular season. I

872
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: was thinking this the other day, like he wins a

873
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: lot of games and gets you know, Coward does. This

874
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: puts him right there with Tomlin. Like the Bills are

875
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game last year. They beat the Ravens.

876
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: They just happen to lose the Chiefs. They lost the

877
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: Chiefs two years ago. Like it's the only team they

878
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: can't beat the playoffs. They're beating all the other teams

879
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: this year. I'm rooting for the Bills. I hope they

880
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: go on a little bit of a run. But like

881
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: he's won a lot of playoff games he's last three

882
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: or four years, he just can't beat Kansas City. I

883
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: think he's lost him what four or five years, and

884
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: the other year to the Bengals who did house them.

885
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: That was an embarrassing loss. But like he's lost the Chiefs.

886
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I like comparing, you know, to Tomlin, who hasn't won

887
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: a playoff game in a decade. I do think Sean

888
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: takes a lot of crap. I actually think the GM

889
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: has let him down. Now. Sean has a big hand

890
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: in personnel, but their personnel operation has been a little

891
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: hit or miss. If they were better on personnel, I

892
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: think they would they would have made a super Bowl

893
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: by now. But their personnel department has just has let

894
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: him down, which he's probably playing a big role. A

895
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: lot of my fellow forty nine fans seem convinced that

896
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: Sala's gone as a new head coach and he deserves it.

897
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: But I remind them spags, who, in my opinion without

898
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: him definitely doesn't beat the forty nine Ers in the

899
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, has been amazing and has no second head

900
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: coaching job yet. So why does one seem to be

901
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: on the radar and the other isn't. I mean, I

902
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: think a huge element is age. I think if Steve

903
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: Spagnola was fifty two instead of my guess is he's

904
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: sixty four, Steves Paganol sixty five. I listen, you're not

905
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: supposed to legally discriminate for age, but he's getting discriminated

906
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: for age. He's not getting hired at sixty five. But

907
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: Robert Sola is forty six years old, So I mean

908
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: there's a twenty year age gap. I was thinking if

909
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: if Mike Tomlin finally does break up with the Steelers,

910
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: I saw Albert Briers say today he's not gonna get

911
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: fired even if he's on another team next year, they

912
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: will not fire. So let's say traded to the Giants.

913
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: I do think Robert Solo would kind of feel a

914
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: little Pittsburgh Steelers because you go, well, who the Pittsburgh

915
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: Steelers is gonna hire? Well, who have there been their

916
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: last two coaches? Of my life? I can't speak to

917
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: Chuck no a little before my time, Bill Kauer defensive

918
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: guy that jaw I think former linebacker in the NFL.

919
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: He's a defensive guy. Mike Tomlin defensive guy. I can't

920
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: picture them hiring like Liam Cohen, Like that's not really

921
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: their style. Now you could argue, maybe you should, that's

922
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: not what they're gonna do. They're gonna hire a defensive guy.

923
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: Robert Sawa kind of looks like if you didn't know

924
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: Robert Salo was, you know, a middle of the road,

925
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, like a non power for college football player,

926
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: you'd be like, I bet that I played for the Steelers,

927
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: like Mike Vrabel. When you say, yeah, Mike Rabel played

928
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: for the Steelers, it's believable. Look at even though now

929
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: he kind of looks like a first baseman that would

930
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: have played for the Yankees in like nineteen eighty three.

931
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: But Robert saw looks like he's a former NFL player

932
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: and specifically he played, like played for Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Right,

933
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: So to me, Robert Solo would make a lot of

934
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: sense for Pittsburgh and he would accept that job yesterday.

935
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: So there is no guarantee he's gonna get hired. I

936
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: think depending on the options. Like if I'm Robert Sala,

937
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: would I take the Arizona Cardinals job, I would not.

938
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't touch that job with a ten football, but

939
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: would some of these other I mean, I just took

940
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: the Jets job, and okay, I got richer, but it sucked.

941
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: So I do think he's gonna want a more stable operation.

942
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: I think if you're Sali, you'd be all over the Giants.

943
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: Are the Giants hiring Robert Sala? I don't. I don't

944
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: think they can and Bears Falcons fan it's clear we

945
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: need a clean house. With Tomlin and Harbaugh clearly needing

946
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: some resets, should they go for one of them? Or

947
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: do they go in the route of Mike McCarthy but

948
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: no first round pick next year and Penni's hurt. I

949
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be hard. I really do. I mean,

950
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't even begin assuming that everyone gets fired. What

951
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: they do. I mean, their last two coaches have been

952
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: Raheem had coached there before, so that that one made

953
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: some sense. Though they almost hired Belichick. Maybe the owner's

954
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: mad that he didn't hire Belichick and now hires Belichick

955
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: which would still be a little shocking. You know. I

956
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: had someone kind of make the plea of me about

957
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy that look at Mike McCarthy. Look at he's

958
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: been replaced twice and the team got better both times

959
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: when he left, and this year specifically, like Jerry nailed

960
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: that one, Like, yeah, Mike, I'm not gonna extend you.

961
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: I thought Jerry was kind of crazy, like I just

962
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: give him a couple of year extension. I'm not paying

963
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: this guy anymore. I'm gonna go with Brian Schottenheimer. Brian

964
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer wins on Thursday. Jerry's gonna look like a genius.

965
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm a Colts fan. And if they don't end up

966
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: making the playoffs, is Ballard on the hot seat? He

967
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: traded two first rounds for sas Gardner and now he's hurt,

968
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is hurt, and the offense doesn't look the same.

969
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: I would say Ballard, if they completely unravel, everything would

970
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: be on the table, and that would be a disaster.

971
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: That would be a little like an NBA trade where

972
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: a guy was on the hot seat. Things were going well,

973
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: quadrupleed down for SaaS Gardner, which I thought was pretty insane.

974
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: And if they were to just start losing a bunch

975
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: of games. Who they played this week, the Jags. I

976
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: think it's up to the Dodters. Now. I don't know

977
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: what their relationship is with them. I'm sure they probably

978
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: like him, but I would say that he's he would

979
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: be in some trouble. Yes, is that a great job?

980
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: Though you have no two for you have no first

981
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: round picks for the next couple of years. You would

982
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: probably start to rebuild and start selling guys off. Watching

983
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: this train wreck of a Vikings team and Jefferson looks

984
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: dead inside. Do you think it's realistic that QUESSI or

985
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: Chaos are gone after this offseason. I would see no

986
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: chance that Kevin O'Connell's gone. He would the Steelers would

987
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: hire an offensive coach, then the Giants would hire him. Yesterday,

988
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: he would teams would be lined up to hire Kevin O'Connell.

989
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: The GM. Listen, you guys die hards, and you guys

990
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: have a great fan base. I haven't done a deep

991
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: dive on his drafts. I know people are not high

992
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: on them, obviously, for all the picks that have missed.

993
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: The JJ situation is pretty devastating. But in fairness to him,

994
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: like bloodshot just on his hands for that pick, you're

995
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: not taking JJ McCarthy if Kevin O'Connell's not fully on

996
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: board as well. So listen, it's hard you make mistakes.

997
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: Some mistakes have bigger consequences than others. All of our

998
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: decisions have consequences, some good, some bad. Right the outcome

999
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: of what we do when we do it. A lot

1000
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: of times we don't know. And on big decisions like

1001
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: a draft pick, drafting a quarterback in the first round,

1002
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: you're doing that because you have high hopes that this

1003
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: thing is gonna work. But they didn't just keep their

1004
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: fingers crossed like we hope. They were pretty confident, but

1005
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: it's a draft. You never know. If I would have

1006
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: told you that how many games they played last year,

1007
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: seventeen and the other twelve. So that's twenty Sepisode twenty nine.

1008
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: Of bo Nix's twenty nine games, his team has won

1009
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: twenty of them. No one would have believed that two

1010
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: years ago. Now, obviously the defense is you know, played

1011
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: a large role in a lot of that action. But still,

1012
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: if JJ McCarthy was the Broncos quarterback, they would not

1013
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: have won twenty to twenty nine games. Well on that one.

1014
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone and we will be back again tomorrow.

1015
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: Keep firing in those dms at John Middlecoff and have

1016
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: a great day peace. The volume