1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Hats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perilla offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,039 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. Joined 4 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: by the newarch member of the Patriots Hall Fame, Mike Gravel, 5 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: find out what led to some of the greatest moments 6 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,439 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 7 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian Hoyer. 8 00:00:48,199 --> 00:00:50,598 Speaker 2: Are joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but 9 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: number one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 10 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:56,078 Speaker 3: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 11 00:00:55,799 --> 00:01:01,239 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the past anywhere you get your podcast. 12 00:01:01,439 --> 00:01:04,199 Speaker 2: How close do you think you are to a complete game? 13 00:01:04,479 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're getting closer. There's definitely some areas we still 14 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:10,359 Speaker 4: need to improve in. You know, we highlighted for our 15 00:01:10,399 --> 00:01:13,038 Speaker 4: offense the red zone to score touchdowns when we get 16 00:01:13,039 --> 00:01:15,879 Speaker 4: down there, and really short yardage. We've got to be 17 00:01:15,878 --> 00:01:17,599 Speaker 4: better in those situations there. We had a chance on 18 00:01:17,679 --> 00:01:19,719 Speaker 4: fourth and one and went back to fourth and six. 19 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:21,999 Speaker 4: Those are two areas and then taking care of the football. 20 00:01:22,359 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 4: You know, that's that's in one area we said, where 21 00:01:24,199 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 4: have we improved over the last four or five games, 22 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 4: we've improved a lot in a lot of areas where 23 00:01:29,878 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 4: we had having in the turnover margins. 24 00:01:31,559 --> 00:01:33,798 Speaker 3: So we have to be diligent taking care of the football. 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 5: With Drake Brookie want again to go up and take 26 00:01:38,639 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 5: some risks, but not turn the ball. 27 00:01:40,759 --> 00:01:43,359 Speaker 4: You know, really the game determines how much risk you 28 00:01:43,438 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 4: have as each time you drop back. 29 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: You know, if you're down two. 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,399 Speaker 4: Scores in the fourth quarter, you got to be a 31 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:49,959 Speaker 4: little more risk adverse and and force some balls. But 32 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:53,199 Speaker 4: you know, trading him and and trying to continue his development, 33 00:01:53,199 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 4: we want to take care of the football, you know, 34 00:01:54,679 --> 00:01:56,679 Speaker 4: if we can, you know, get out of the season 35 00:01:56,759 --> 00:01:59,199 Speaker 4: on a full year with under say ten interceptions, maybe 36 00:01:59,199 --> 00:02:00,879 Speaker 4: two or three of those are tip balls that are 37 00:02:00,919 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 4: just freaking ones that we feel pretty good. So never 38 00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:06,239 Speaker 4: really want to encourage it. Always coaching to you know, 39 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:07,879 Speaker 4: coaching our players to take care of the ball. 40 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:16,238 Speaker 1: Teams qualify or quartify drops. You will say, petty, you guys, 41 00:02:16,839 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: I would drop pass. 42 00:02:18,399 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 4: If it was a drop or a break or yeah, 43 00:02:21,519 --> 00:02:23,759 Speaker 4: I mean we raided them as competitive plays. You know, 44 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:26,638 Speaker 4: if the dB is there oftentimes you know, if he's 45 00:02:26,679 --> 00:02:28,439 Speaker 4: there as a bang bang player, he gets a hand 46 00:02:28,478 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 4: on the ball. 47 00:02:28,799 --> 00:02:30,038 Speaker 3: It's a PBu. 48 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 4: If there's a clear open receiver that drops the ball, 49 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:35,879 Speaker 4: we consider that a drop. So more about the contested 50 00:02:35,879 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: portion of that, you know. So it's it's very obvious 51 00:02:38,799 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 4: if it's a drop, and if it's. 52 00:02:39,799 --> 00:02:43,038 Speaker 3: Good defensive play, then then hats off to them. How 53 00:02:43,038 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 3: did you do the interception in the game? Drake was 54 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:48,279 Speaker 3: talking escape but sort of sometimes going to see it 55 00:02:48,319 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 3: more spatially than like, this is the play called? 56 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,719 Speaker 4: Is that sort of maybe what happened there that he 57 00:02:52,959 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 4: thought maybe you should throttled down a little bit. Yeah, No, 58 00:02:56,479 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 4: it's a we were trying to put stress on the safety, 59 00:02:58,559 --> 00:03:00,559 Speaker 4: the halfield safety there. So we had Pop running down 60 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 4: the middle and I think Booty up on the outside 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 4: on the on the conversion, so that's a two on 62 00:03:04,799 --> 00:03:06,719 Speaker 4: one ball on the safety. It's something we had talked about, 63 00:03:06,758 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 4: just weren't on the same page with with Pop as 64 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:10,358 Speaker 4: far as when that ball was going to come up. 65 00:03:11,359 --> 00:03:12,918 Speaker 4: You know, I think the read was right. I think 66 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 4: Pop looks a little bit earlier. He gets his head 67 00:03:14,839 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 4: back and catches the ball. So again, just growing pains 68 00:03:17,399 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 4: of a young offense and young players. You know, we 69 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:21,198 Speaker 4: just need to continue to coach off of our mistakes 70 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 4: and not make him again. 71 00:03:22,799 --> 00:03:25,319 Speaker 3: You know, but the ball went to the right spot, 72 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: you know. I just think we weren't on the same page. 73 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:29,638 Speaker 3: And speaking of pal Drake said he sees the field. 74 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: Is that how you coach it for him to more 75 00:03:31,758 --> 00:03:34,439 Speaker 2: try to attack voids in space rather than everybody just 76 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:36,039 Speaker 2: sticking to the route as it is on the agent. 77 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:36,879 Speaker 3: How do you balance that? 78 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:38,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a fine line. I mean, the 79 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:41,359 Speaker 4: defense determines where you go with the ball often and 80 00:03:41,399 --> 00:03:43,879 Speaker 4: if your spacing's correct and zone defense you should stress 81 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:45,959 Speaker 4: out there the zone players, and that's kind of what 82 00:03:45,999 --> 00:03:49,679 Speaker 4: we were trying to get done on that play. Yeah, 83 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:51,239 Speaker 4: I mean, it was just a missed opportunity. We had 84 00:03:51,239 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 4: a chance there for completion down the field to keep 85 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:55,639 Speaker 4: us in it. And you know, again that's something that 86 00:03:55,679 --> 00:03:58,479 Speaker 4: we coach off of and expect moving forward with that 87 00:03:58,519 --> 00:04:00,319 Speaker 4: play comes up again, we'll know exactly what to do 88 00:04:00,359 --> 00:04:00,639 Speaker 4: with time. 89 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:06,959 Speaker 2: Alex, go ahead for you and connect. Okay, Sorry, thanks, 90 00:04:07,719 --> 00:04:09,519 Speaker 2: I was just looking at the stats for play action 91 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:12,039 Speaker 2: and it seems like you guys I think rank thirtieth 92 00:04:12,119 --> 00:04:13,959 Speaker 2: of the year for use to play action, not saying 93 00:04:13,999 --> 00:04:16,439 Speaker 2: good or bad, just curious, what's the thinking behind. 94 00:04:16,119 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 4: That We're gonna run the ball better. I mean, that 95 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: was kind of the thought process there. Our drop back 96 00:04:20,599 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 4: pass games come a long way, so feel really comfortable there. 97 00:04:23,479 --> 00:04:24,838 Speaker 3: It's where do you spend the time. 98 00:04:25,318 --> 00:04:26,998 Speaker 4: We spend a lot of time in the drop back game, 99 00:04:27,039 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: and it's it's you know, we're benefiting from that. So 100 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 4: definitely he's still part of our game. You know, ten 101 00:04:32,678 --> 00:04:34,439 Speaker 4: twelve of those are on the call sheet each week. 102 00:04:34,759 --> 00:04:37,079 Speaker 4: Try to get as many as we can't call. Sometimes 103 00:04:37,119 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: the game dictates that you can't, you know, use your 104 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: run action play action as much. 105 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 3: But it's definitely part of our offense. 106 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: You describe what you know, what you have unserved from drinks. 107 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:50,958 Speaker 3: Leadership style is from the first game in the bold 108 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:51,519 Speaker 3: to where we are. 109 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,399 Speaker 4: I think he's starting to get a little more comfortable 110 00:04:53,438 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: with the guys now, you know, more more talkative in meetings, 111 00:04:56,999 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 4: and it's something we've kind of encouraged as well for 112 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:01,278 Speaker 4: those guys to spend time together. So at the end 113 00:05:01,318 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 4: of a day like yesterday, for example, we'll coaches will 114 00:05:04,678 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: leave the room and quarterbacks and the skill guys will 115 00:05:06,719 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 4: stay and they'll watch seven on seven and one on 116 00:05:08,359 --> 00:05:11,439 Speaker 4: one together, So always trying to encourage that a leadership 117 00:05:11,438 --> 00:05:14,118 Speaker 4: from him. Again, a couple of weeks back, he addressed 118 00:05:14,119 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: the offense, which I thought was a big step for him. 119 00:05:16,599 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: And he'll continue to grow as a leader. 120 00:05:18,039 --> 00:05:21,199 Speaker 4: He's a genuine leader, you know, he cares about the 121 00:05:21,239 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: guys and I think they'll respond when he says something. 122 00:05:24,039 --> 00:05:27,038 Speaker 2: From obviously helping the offense, what was the impetus for 123 00:05:27,039 --> 00:05:29,278 Speaker 2: putting Marcus Jones a game plan last week? 124 00:05:29,479 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: It is at something thing you hope to build. 125 00:05:31,438 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 4: On moving forward, because he called Nast's that's not seriously 126 00:05:34,919 --> 00:05:37,319 Speaker 4: he did. He texted, I got a text from Marcus Jones, 127 00:05:37,318 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 4: and I'm going back in my mind like Marcus would 128 00:05:40,119 --> 00:05:41,558 Speaker 4: just come and sit talk to me in the building, 129 00:05:41,599 --> 00:05:44,199 Speaker 4: I would think. So I was googling Marcus Jones' and 130 00:05:44,198 --> 00:05:45,878 Speaker 4: there was a guy that came through Green Bay for 131 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:46,639 Speaker 4: a couple of coffee. 132 00:05:47,039 --> 00:05:48,439 Speaker 3: I'm like, why would he be texting me? 133 00:05:48,479 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: And then one of our coaches came and said, Marcus 134 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 4: is trying to get a hold of you. So I 135 00:05:52,999 --> 00:05:55,238 Speaker 4: watched nineteen plays of his that he's done here as 136 00:05:55,239 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 4: an offensive player. He obviously brings a lot of juice, 137 00:05:58,039 --> 00:06:01,398 Speaker 4: tremendous ball carrier speed, his ability to see the field, 138 00:06:01,438 --> 00:06:03,959 Speaker 4: so you know, try to find some plays just to 139 00:06:04,198 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: get our guys in the best position to make plays. 140 00:06:06,198 --> 00:06:08,079 Speaker 4: And felt like he would give us a little spark there. 141 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:10,879 Speaker 4: You know, we'll see how it goes. Moving forward to. 142 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: Sorry to Ma, when did he text you? And then 143 00:06:13,599 --> 00:06:15,399 Speaker 3: what did you do next? Once you realized it was 144 00:06:16,078 --> 00:06:17,078 Speaker 3: I grabbed him at practice. 145 00:06:17,159 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, he texted me like, they're late in the week 146 00:06:18,719 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: the week before and it was too late to get 147 00:06:20,039 --> 00:06:21,959 Speaker 4: anything into that game plan. So I grabbed him late 148 00:06:21,958 --> 00:06:23,438 Speaker 4: in that week and said, we'd have some stuff up 149 00:06:23,438 --> 00:06:25,518 Speaker 4: for you next week. But I always want guys that 150 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:27,038 Speaker 4: are self starters and want to be a part of it. 151 00:06:27,119 --> 00:06:29,319 Speaker 4: So I was really appreciative for him to, you know, 152 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,319 Speaker 4: offer his duties up to us on the offensive side. 153 00:06:33,159 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 4: Just anyone ever caught into their services and you said, no, yeah, 154 00:06:38,359 --> 00:06:40,759 Speaker 4: there's a lot of those guys. Yeah, there's a lot 155 00:06:40,799 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 4: of those guys, those defensive guys, but but that he's 156 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:46,319 Speaker 4: obviously has a special skills, you know, skill set and 157 00:06:46,678 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 4: his return games as good as there is, so as 158 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:50,519 Speaker 4: many times as we can one use him to put 159 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:51,959 Speaker 4: the ball in his hands or maybe use him as 160 00:06:51,958 --> 00:06:54,439 Speaker 4: a decoy. We'll see, but you know, he does bring 161 00:06:54,519 --> 00:06:56,759 Speaker 4: some value and some benefit. After after last week's game, 162 00:06:56,799 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: I'm really excited about maybe moving forward with him. 163 00:06:59,558 --> 00:07:03,238 Speaker 5: A little bit about Darren Low and shout play, and 164 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,199 Speaker 5: that resulted. 165 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:04,678 Speaker 3: In touching on what it. 166 00:07:04,599 --> 00:07:06,078 Speaker 5: Was like to see him kind of have that moment. 167 00:07:06,318 --> 00:07:06,758 Speaker 3: It was great. 168 00:07:06,799 --> 00:07:10,039 Speaker 4: You know, those offensive linemen, they loved it. The celebration 169 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 4: was it was okay. I thought they'd be more something more, 170 00:07:12,679 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 4: you know, choreographed. 171 00:07:14,439 --> 00:07:16,199 Speaker 3: But it's it's place. It's been a while for a 172 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:18,038 Speaker 3: long around for a while. You know. 173 00:07:18,119 --> 00:07:20,359 Speaker 4: Evan brought it up on an immediate says, the perfect 174 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:23,599 Speaker 4: defense for this, So we we put it in, practiced it. 175 00:07:23,919 --> 00:07:26,599 Speaker 4: We refer to our We'll get into that, refer to 176 00:07:26,599 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 4: our a lot of our trick plays as vegetables and fruits. 177 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:31,159 Speaker 3: So that was a good one and had a tea 178 00:07:31,159 --> 00:07:31,319 Speaker 3: in it. 179 00:07:31,359 --> 00:07:33,599 Speaker 4: I'll let you guys figure it out from there for 180 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:36,718 Speaker 4: the tackle eligible play. But you know, we go into 181 00:07:36,719 --> 00:07:38,718 Speaker 4: the game with a lot of you know, the city 182 00:07:38,719 --> 00:07:40,839 Speaker 4: playing the muscle and then it's kind of a little 183 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:44,159 Speaker 4: deceptive thing where actually Vederian reports and they just assume 184 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:45,999 Speaker 4: it's a city and then you can take advantage of it. 185 00:07:46,039 --> 00:07:48,519 Speaker 4: But good scheme and I'm glad he caught it. 186 00:07:50,999 --> 00:07:52,639 Speaker 3: We only have the only award the trucks out when 187 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:52,919 Speaker 3: we win. 188 00:07:53,799 --> 00:07:56,359 Speaker 4: But it was it was it rivaled the week before 189 00:07:56,479 --> 00:07:59,639 Speaker 4: we were about ten short. But the guys are definitely 190 00:07:59,679 --> 00:08:01,759 Speaker 4: playing the right way. It shows up all over the tape. 191 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:04,919 Speaker 4: There were multiple guys on the sideline. I think David 192 00:08:04,958 --> 00:08:07,999 Speaker 4: Andrews had two three pickups on the day off of 193 00:08:07,999 --> 00:08:10,279 Speaker 4: the sideline, you know, two with the sling, one without 194 00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:12,839 Speaker 4: the sling in the second half. So the guys are 195 00:08:12,839 --> 00:08:14,799 Speaker 4: definitely bought in. They're playing for each other and that's 196 00:08:15,039 --> 00:08:16,079 Speaker 4: a big piece of building this. 197 00:08:17,359 --> 00:08:19,079 Speaker 3: Tony and Ramonder are two guys. 198 00:08:19,119 --> 00:08:21,799 Speaker 2: We've got a lot of production in passing it and 199 00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:25,158 Speaker 2: how the Bay prepare at this point of. 200 00:08:25,159 --> 00:08:28,359 Speaker 3: The season, we've yourtifications going in. You want get more 201 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:29,639 Speaker 3: out of the backs that. 202 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:32,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely they bring the value there in the past 203 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,759 Speaker 4: game as they're both tremendous route runners, you know, really 204 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:38,639 Speaker 4: good hands on both those guys. So there's definitely some 205 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 4: ways that we can incorporate them more in the past game. 206 00:08:42,839 --> 00:08:43,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they did. 207 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,479 Speaker 4: They definitely can bring some value whether you put them 208 00:08:45,479 --> 00:08:47,279 Speaker 4: in the same time, you split them out and let 209 00:08:47,319 --> 00:08:51,078 Speaker 4: him run routes out as an outside wide receiver versus linebackers. 210 00:08:51,719 --> 00:08:52,718 Speaker 3: There's value there. 211 00:08:53,078 --> 00:08:55,598 Speaker 2: With cool strange are you just having you focus on 212 00:08:55,599 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: one position for now? 213 00:08:56,479 --> 00:08:58,159 Speaker 3: I'm mooving Hi around a little bit. How do you 214 00:08:58,159 --> 00:08:58,799 Speaker 3: do with ass? 215 00:08:59,078 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 4: But really just see where he plugs into those inside 216 00:09:01,199 --> 00:09:03,239 Speaker 4: three spots, you know, where he's most comfortable. 217 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:04,639 Speaker 3: Obviously played a lot of guard. 218 00:09:04,999 --> 00:09:07,519 Speaker 4: I believe they had maybe circled him as a potential 219 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,159 Speaker 4: center when they brought him in. I see center qualities 220 00:09:10,159 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 4: in him body type. We'll just see where he's at. 221 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:14,359 Speaker 4: Glad to have him back out there. I know he's 222 00:09:14,359 --> 00:09:16,999 Speaker 4: worked hard to get back. The next few weeks we'll 223 00:09:17,079 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 4: kind of determine where he goes. 224 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: So curious if there was a reason why Ted considered 225 00:09:24,359 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: marks or maybe. 226 00:09:25,719 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: He did, he just you know, didn't, right, That was 227 00:09:30,719 --> 00:09:33,119 Speaker 4: the first uh it had come to my attention, and 228 00:09:33,119 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 4: that he had played offensive place, and you know, I'm 229 00:09:35,359 --> 00:09:36,239 Speaker 4: glad that he did. 230 00:09:36,079 --> 00:09:44,399 Speaker 5: It offensive rookie class classes, guy, how would you sort 231 00:09:44,439 --> 00:09:46,999 Speaker 5: of sum up their development and discipline? 232 00:09:47,319 --> 00:09:49,039 Speaker 3: All gonna be good players, I believe for us. 233 00:09:49,079 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 4: They're all going to be contributors here for the Patriots, 234 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 4: you know, at different points of their development and progression 235 00:09:55,639 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 4: right now. But I do feel that all all those 236 00:09:58,479 --> 00:10:00,039 Speaker 4: guys that we brought it in that class are going 237 00:10:00,079 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: to be able to help us in the future. 238 00:10:01,399 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 3: For sure. 239 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:04,279 Speaker 4: Drake obviously is the guy that that stands up now. 240 00:10:04,359 --> 00:10:06,639 Speaker 4: Polk's playing as much as you know the other rookies. 241 00:10:07,359 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 4: You know, Caden's gonna get back here soon after the injury. 242 00:10:10,199 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 4: You know, Leyden, We'll just keep bringing him along and 243 00:10:12,319 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 4: plugging him in, you know. And Baker will make plays 244 00:10:14,479 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 4: for us down the stretches once he becomes, you know, 245 00:10:17,239 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 4: more familiar with the whole system. And and but those 246 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,239 Speaker 4: that's a group of talented guys. We were excited about 247 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 4: him when we drafted him in are now And and Bell? 248 00:10:25,439 --> 00:10:27,279 Speaker 4: You forgot about Bell? Yeah, Bell's guy. It's going to 249 00:10:27,319 --> 00:10:30,279 Speaker 4: help us. So really high on that rookie class to 250 00:10:30,359 --> 00:10:32,999 Speaker 4: keep getting better each week, you know. Talking about Bell, 251 00:10:33,039 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 4: here's a guy that came in and just worked his 252 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:36,799 Speaker 4: way up into a special team spots and he's doing 253 00:10:36,799 --> 00:10:39,159 Speaker 4: it the right way, working his butt off. 254 00:10:39,439 --> 00:10:40,159 Speaker 3: Something struggling. 255 00:10:40,199 --> 00:10:41,879 Speaker 5: Did you believe that, you know, plagued in through the 256 00:10:41,879 --> 00:10:44,759 Speaker 5: struggles or sometimes those guys be like a mental break 257 00:10:44,839 --> 00:10:46,119 Speaker 5: or whatever, and how he approach that. 258 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:47,519 Speaker 3: It is a fine line. 259 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 4: Obviously, want to keep those guys out there to continue 260 00:10:49,599 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 4: the development. Sometimes they need a break, you know, sometimes 261 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 4: a game to take a break kind of reset and 262 00:10:55,319 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 4: refocused gives those guys a chance. 263 00:10:57,599 --> 00:10:59,239 Speaker 3: But at this point now we got to roll. 264 00:10:59,239 --> 00:11:02,359 Speaker 4: We're not rookies as much anymore, so we expect you know, 265 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:05,799 Speaker 4: more out of these guys Ramandre and call. 266 00:11:06,079 --> 00:11:07,279 Speaker 2: Hinder ports touchdown. 267 00:11:07,319 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: There not many other Patriots supposed as backfield. Yeah, no, 268 00:11:10,999 --> 00:11:12,639 Speaker 3: that was great. I mean that was something we had 269 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 3: practiced all week. 270 00:11:13,359 --> 00:11:15,239 Speaker 4: And there's another guy KB we talked about it had 271 00:11:15,239 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 4: a rough game a few weeks back and I didn't 272 00:11:17,959 --> 00:11:19,999 Speaker 4: get as many snaps, but you know, really the guy 273 00:11:19,999 --> 00:11:22,239 Speaker 4: that we're going to count on to be a bellcal 274 00:11:22,319 --> 00:11:23,799 Speaker 4: for us out there at the receiver spot. 275 00:11:23,839 --> 00:11:25,799 Speaker 3: But guys were having fund. That was one of our 276 00:11:25,839 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: better drives of the year. I thought. 277 00:11:27,119 --> 00:11:29,399 Speaker 4: We went down the field in seven plays and mixed 278 00:11:29,399 --> 00:11:32,039 Speaker 4: in a lot of different and schemes and ended up 279 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 4: in the end zone. 280 00:11:32,599 --> 00:11:39,359 Speaker 3: That's what it should look like. Okay, thanks guys, Patriots Playbook. 281 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: Join John Brook as he brings you all the latest 282 00:11:41,719 --> 00:11:45,399 Speaker 1: Patriots Talk an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 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