WEBVTT - #516 - Anella 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:00.520 What's up. 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:02.120 My name is Zanela, and check me out on the 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:03.199 Bootleg cav Podcast. 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:05.800 All right, y'all, before we get into the episode, we 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:06.560 gotta do this. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.680 We just dropped these t shirts to celebrate five hundred 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:11.240 episodes with the bootle cap podcast. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.240 Yes, this is out. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:16.759 Little daytona five hundred vintage flip. All five hundred episodes 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.160 are on the back. Yes, you can do the gray, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:21.480 or you could just go black. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.480 The black is fire too. 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You got some sort of deal 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:04.240 with these guys with the nelks. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:05.800 Yeah, yeah, I'm like a what do you call it? 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:06.760 A brand ambassador? 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:07.360 Did pay you? 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.800 Oh? Yeah? And not just in happy dad, No, I 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.480 just happy that good people though. What's your favorite flavor? Gosh, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.600 it depends probably living live, but like, if I'm feeling. 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.280 It, great, grape is fire, grape is super good. I 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.280 like the watermelon. Watermelon. 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.200 You can't go wrong with anything in the variety pet 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.680 you can, But I'm not a big wild cherry fan. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.680 Wild cherry is cough, syrupy. Yeah you feel me, it is. Yeah, 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.160 that's the one where because I like wild cherry other selters, 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:33.959 but that one I can't. It's just too cough, surping. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.080 I don't like wild cherry anything. I can't lie. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.679 Not a cherry guy. No, no, no, shout to my producer 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.680 fucking things up over here with a ringing phone anyway. Man, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.160 Uh so, yeah, I first met you because you work 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:48.280 with my boy Sud, who's a Carolina legend, legendary DJ 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.400 in the game Man and DJ and for two Chains forever. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.280 So how did you guys end up working together and 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:53.880 how did you kind of get on his radar? Because 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:55.200 that was like four years ago. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.240 Yeah, damn near, I played like a I played like 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.160 a guitar at bar when I was in high school. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.480 Yo, wait a minute, the way you just said high 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.880 school that Carolina just came high school. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.440 Yeah, high school, high school anyway, high school. When I 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.720 was in high school, no, no, you let it, let 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.760 it fly, I played up bars because I got like 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.800 three jobs got fired from all like three weeks. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:19.640 Three jobs. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.920 Say you got five from in like three weeks. Like 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.919 I was not good. So I was like in high school, yeah, okay, 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:26.320 So I was like I ain't doing this no more. 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.919 So I started playing bars. And then I was playing 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.120 this bar called box Car Arcade in Greensboro, and I 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.000 met this guy in Malik, and he took me like 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.320 my first studio and we started working and sub was 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.840 throwing this show called the Parking Lot Concert. That's what 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.920 it's called, right, I remember you doing those yeah, No 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.920 stress Fest, the No Stress Fest. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:44.720 Yeah yeah. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.359 And so they were like, I think it's like a 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.280 thousand dollars for a slot, and. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:54.000 Oh you was host Elite was eating talk Elite like 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:54.480 booked me. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.440 And then I was supposed to go like fourth or fifth, 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.280 but I'd never done like a rap. I never used 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.400 a wireless mic, and I brought my acoustic guitar to 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.240 this like super urban show. So like I got I 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.480 was standing beside stage like ten minutes before it even started, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.000 so so just looked down like all the other rappers 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:07.519 weren't there. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.280 Yeah, You're like hey man. He was like you ready. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:10.480 I was like hell yeah. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.760 So I got on stage and then they didn't even 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.040 have like a mic stand or a like right, I 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.560 had like Guy Nam beat out holding the mic from 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:19.720 my guitar and Soud holding the mic from my mouth 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.519 or some crazy shit like with like. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.480 That's random, you know what I'm saying visually, it's just 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:25.680 And so that's how we met. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.600 But then a couple of weeks later, I put a 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.160 cover on Instagram of Lemonade by Don Tolliver and I 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:33.919 had like the No Stress This is like during COVID, 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.440 so I had the face mask on because he had 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.000 like a No Stress branded face mask, and he commented, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:38.560 He's like this is fire. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.120 Let's get in the studio and now we're here. That's dope, man. 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.800 Yeah that's like four years. Yeah, So like for people 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.800 who haven't heard you, will you hit the gate for 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:50.160 a lexus for me. Uh, for people who haven't heard you, man, 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.600 what would you say? Because obviously you were on on 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.240 the radar doing like a country like whet first, like 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.839 country performances. But I've heard you do like hip hop 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.720 shit too, Like yeah, what's kind of like your bag? 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.720 Would you say? Or is it just like my bad? 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.280 I have no idea, man, I think I'm still trying 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.320 to find it, But I just enjoyed making good music, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:12.560 like I grew up on like Michael Jackson, Outcast, Stevie Wonder, 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.920 like the Carpenters, Like I got introduced to really good 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.719 music really young. And uh, but then you know, I 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.280 grew up when SoundCloud was popping and you had like 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.760 the little Uzy post Malone right Juice twenty three When 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.120 you just said you grew up when SoundCloud was popping, well, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.600 I was in high school, like in my whole life, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.240 flash before my eyes, Oh ship. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.600 I was like, damn, that's when you were growing up. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.479 You grew up on Juice World. Hell, yeah, I'm old 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:34.920 as fuck. 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.440 That's crazy, but like that's what was popular when I 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.960 was in like middle school, high school. Well, fetty Wap 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:45.680 was when I was in what was it six eight nine. Yeah, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.839 and that ship came on six seven nine, six seven. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.719 He had a twelve month run for sure. Hell yeah. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.880 So what part of the Carolina are you from? 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.559 Uh, I'm from Trinity, which is like a super small 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.120 town in the middle of like dead center, North Carolina. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.320 But I stay in Charlotte. Okay, So Trinity, North Carolina? 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.960 Is it like some like what do they what do 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.640 they do there? Nothing? Dude. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.599 They squat their trucks and go to like Taco Bell 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.479 and cook out and go to the football games, go 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:11.920 to church. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.480 Taco Bell, Yeah, Taco bell in church. Yeah, Taco Bell 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.400 in church. That's crazy. There aren't really much else to do. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.520 There's like a high blast in Jesus. Yeah. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.480 Amen, there's like three stoplights. So it's kind of all 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:24.880 you get. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.920 So was it like did you grow up like was 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.480 your family listening in the country and ship? 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.320 Now, I grew up my dad was like the praise 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.480 and worship leader at our church, so he always So your. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.159 Dad's yeah man of God. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.080 Yeah, my whole family is. I am I'd like to 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.080 be I think getting there, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.960 But yeah, he grew up in church, so he started 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.720 me playing drums when I was like four years old, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:48.159 and then. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.160 He was just on it. Yeah. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:51.680 I just got banned in middle school, and then I 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.039 got braces. I can play like woodwinds or brass instruments. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.320 So I picked up guitar and piano. Yeah, the whole 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.040 whole ordeal. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.680 I didn't think about that. If you have braces, you 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.520 really are fucked as a kid. You can only learn 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.360 certain instruments. Yeah, because the metal. You can't have metal 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.560 on metal. Nah, dude, it was like shred my lips 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:10.120 like I hated it. Yeah, I mean for you, man, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.960 like what is uh? I guess if someone were to 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.159 like ask you, like to describe you as an artist, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:16.560 what would you tell them if they hadn't heard your 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.360 music comfortable and nostalgic? 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:18.920 Uh? 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.560 Describe me as an artist? It's just like I don't know. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.400 I feel like everything just feels human, Like you know, 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.360 you listen to music and sometimes you can't tell I 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.720 don't know. I just think everything sounds like me, which 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.680 is you kind of got it. It's like looking at 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.760 a painting, like I can't describe the pain to you. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:34.880 I just want you to tell me what you see, 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.480 you feel. I'm saying that's dope. Yeah, what is your 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.160 inspiration behind making the music? Like seasons of like season three, 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.599 seasons I grew up on like TV shows and shit, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.479 like I love TV shows, I love movies, I love 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:50.480 like picking out certain directors, Like I feel like being 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.880 genreless you have to find because like everything is a 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.400 marketing game, you have to have something to market, Like 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.120 what are you marketing? Oh, you're good at this, Okay, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:58.800 this is what we're gonna tell everybody you do. And 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.760 so it's like trying to be less and not necessarily 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.440 being able to say all the rapper all, I'm a singer, 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.240 I'm a country guy almost, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.880 The seasons gave me a way to like pinpoint everything 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.280 and kind of make it simple because like with season one, 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.040 I based it off of pulp fiction, so it's like 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.960 already comfortable, and the vibe of the project was that, 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.400 so I didn't have to match, it didn't have to 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:20.920 be the same genre all the way through. It just 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.000 had to, you know what I'm saying, feel good, feel 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.800 like that, like that nostalgic feeling. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:29.120 So season one was pulp fiction feeling. Yeah, yeah, do 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.080 you have a song on there that replicates the feeling 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.840 of being Raims being raped in the button great. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.960 Scene from the movie Gotta Ask Helena. You know the 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.000 scene I'm talking about right there? 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.080 Hell yeah, yeah, I gotta ask Now I had that 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:40.760 very complicated movie lot going on. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.280 No, yeah, yeah, well they also yeah, I'm just yeah, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.960 held hell which which. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.600 Song is that scene? No? No, I mean I obviously 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:49.760 Sandlot's the newest one. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.560 Right yeah, yeah, Sandlot was the cover. That shit was 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:53.080 super fun. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.000 Holes I see, I see a lot of yeah holes. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.480 Of season two and then we had like the Hangover, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:01.640 but we also did Mister Rogers in Friday for season three. Like, yeah, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.200 I just like TV is like a big That's how 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.480 I like write music because I'm twenty three, so I 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.160 haven't What are you watching right now? You've seen Severans 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.240 I heard about it. It's someone on Apple right, yes? 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.160 Yeah? Is getting Apple is? Yeah? 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.320 Yeah, I'm not gonna lie I be bootlegging and no 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:19.880 pun intended. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:24.280 But yeah, I just watched land Man. Yeah that ship's 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.400 with Billy Bob Thornton. Dude, my mom trying that ship 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:27.240 is crack. Yeah. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.440 I watched the first episode and I like felt like 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.120 I would get hooked, but like, oh you will. I've 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:32.880 got this rule where I like, I can't start another 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:34.640 TV show unless I finish one, because then I'll just 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.000 You're in the middle of severn So yeah, yeah, so 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.320 Severnce is the wave, dude, Severnce is so good. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.360 Did you watch Yellowstone? 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:42.840 No, but Seven's been trying to put me on that 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.360 ship like every week, like once. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.760 We could be like you just watch Yellostone. It's good, man. Yeah, especially, 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.480 you know, I feel like it's like, I don't know, 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.679 made me want to be a cowboy. We're like, fuck, man, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.559 I want to go fucking ride some horses. Dog, you 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.840 know what I'm saying. Yeah. Landy Wilson kind of fat 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.520 at bro. Then she know it's crazy because I met 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.800 Laney Wilson in person. I only know her from Yellowstone 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.760 and the Yellowstone she got the fattest white girl ass 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.280 you've ever seen on a human. And then I met 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.120 her and I was hanging out and drinking with her, 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.240 and I didn't realize it was her until like an 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.120 hour later, and my boy was like, you know, that's Laney, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.560 And I was like, Landy Wilson, Oh, she lost weight. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.640 She's like like she's she hit the I don't know 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.680 if she's on like Keto or something, but Tita, but 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.000 Landy Wilson from Yellowstone and Landy Wilson now is still beautiful, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:37.120 still hot. Yeah, very different. She had a fucking she 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.000 had a goddamn god damn. She still got a god 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.120 damn for sure. You know it's still there, but it's 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.480 just not like it was. You know, it's more fit now. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.240 It's out to Laney. She's a legend for sure. So 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.280 would you say you listen to more country now or nah? 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:51.960 Honestly, I've been listening to a lot, like you know, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.199 the Weekend just dropped great album, Dude, so good, probably 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.200 one of the Like I also didn't listen to albums 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:58.839 until recently, Like I grew up just listening to the 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.160 radio and then I made music. So it was like 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.400 I listened to like the songs that were bigger from 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.640 this single era, you know what I'm saying. So it's 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.080 like this is the first album seven got me in 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.439 albums like I went back and listened to like A 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.720 Wild what that you just got in A Yeah? I 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.080 just got like bro, I just didn't. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:14.600 I don't know. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.000 It was like I always listened to songs as a moment, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.000 Like I remember the first song I listened to, you 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:21.640 know what I'm saying, when I like when I was 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.720 built my subs in my jeet, when I got my license, 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.320 Like I always related songs to my moment, So there 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.320 was never a many album, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.840 But now developing as an artist and like wanting to 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.960 learn how to properly you know, introduce people to me 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.200 as a person through music is like you have to 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.000 create a feeling in a project. And so I've been 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:43.679 studying and yeah, like the Weekend's album that she was 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:48.080 insane good album, the Trip to Yeah, Yeah album, Dude's 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.240 so good, so good, You've done trumps to the album No, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.360 not to the album Yeah, I want to Yeah so good, bro, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:55.040 I no, right. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.600 That's so good. Yeah made me feel like I was 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.520 on shrooms. Weekend's got good shrum music the most part. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:01.760 He's got to get everything music. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.839 Tam and Paula is the best shroom band ever though, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.920 Oh for sure you ever want to just that? 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:10.360 Uh, it feels like Paula has got the best drug 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.040 music of all time for sure. Mac Miller's got some 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.640 show too, Uh, Mac DeMarco get for another Mac good 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.040 shroom music. Have you heard of Mac de Marco? Yes, Uh, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.160 he's got some crazy stories behind his name. His video 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.080 is crazy, like he's always it's always. Yeah, he's got 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.800 like this. Yeah, shout out to Mac to Marco. So, uh, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.520 I see I see you? Uh hanging with Posty Uh Yeah, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.280 post is a great guy. He's a og at this point. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.280 Someone else is pretty genrealists. Yeah, super nice guy, like 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:41.520 like the nicest guy. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.800 Yeah, Like exactly what you see on the internet is 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:44.559 exactly what you get. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:44.839 Yeah. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.360 Yeah, did you play beer pong with him? Yeah? I did, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.559 and I got wax bro. Yeah, he's pretty good at it. Dude. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:51.360 Well he's cracked. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.800 She is insane, Like, I ain't get no warm up 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.480 though I'm not evena cap. I did not get no 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.040 warm up, So I'm not gonna say I needed like 0:11:58.080 --> 0:11:59.520 a good two or three game warm up. I have 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:00.960 my nerves going, you know what I'm saying. I'm in 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.199 the rooming like superstars. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.679 It was happy that pong obviously, Yeah, of course, of course, yeah, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:06.160 of course. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:06.360 No. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.880 I feel like, especially being from Trinity, North Carolina, there 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.120 had to be a lot of pong. It's happening. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.200 Oh yeah, no, no, no, that's how like you have to 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:14.959 pass the class to get your diploma. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.800 So you know what I'm saying, is that is that 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.480 like for you? Like? Was it? Was? It? Like when 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.240 you meet someone like post Malone, who's like one of 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.960 the biggest pop stars of all time. He might be 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.960 the most successful streaming artist ever. He's at least top 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.319 three at this point. Yes, were you nervous? 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.840 Yeah, of course, I'm not gonna lie to the first 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.240 time I met him, we were in Charlotte. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:37.720 He had pulled up. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.360 He did a show at the P and C and 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.520 then Sud's good friends with Smitti, which is his DJ. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.520 So he had introduced us and they took us back. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.720 We didn't know we were going backstage, so we just 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.120 pulled up. They brought us backstage. I ended up meeting 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.000 a guy named Jay and a guy named Meil, which 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:55.800 is Jay's son, and that's like my dog now, so 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:56.959 we be hanging out. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.080 That's really how go places. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.880 But we walked back there and he had just got 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.600 off stage and I wouldn't even expecting to see him, 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.840 and he walked in and like this cat like silk 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.439 cat gown with a bunch of cats all over it, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.120 and I don't know why, but we ended up making 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.040 eye contact. We like the first people in the eye contact, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:15.280 and my dumb ass I. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.680 Was like, what the fuck? And then he just looked 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.199 at it and with what the fuck? 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.280 And so it was like that was kind of like 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:22.840 the Bob shit. I was like, oh shit, all right, 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:23.720 I bet that's dope. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.640 Man. Yeah, are you are you like writing for other people? 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.280 Are you trying to get like you know, cause obviously 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.280 you're in the studio a lot, and just kind of 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:32.760 the I haven't tried that yet. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.720 It's like, usually if I write a song and I 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.680 love it, I want it, and if I don't like it, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:38.160 I don't. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:38.920 Even want nobody to hear it. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.599 So it's like I haven't across that, you know what 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.160 I'm saying, Like that that middle ground where I'm willing 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:45.760 to I'm willing for this be heard, but I don't 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:46.920 want to be heard out of my mind. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.600 Like if you love a song, though, and somebody else 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.400 wants to sing it, that's much bigger than you would 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:51.040 you give it to them. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.800 It depends on how much I love a song, if 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:54.920 it depends on if they sound better than me singing it. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:56.440 If I listen to you singing and I like it 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.120 better and I like myself singing it, yeah you can 0:13:58.160 --> 0:13:59.280 have it because I like that more. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:00.520 But if I, you. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.319 Know, enjoy the way my voice sounds on it more 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.040 than yours, and nah, it's just ship. 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.839 I feel like I'm supposed to say it. Where's been 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.800 like the most random or cool place music has taken 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.400 you so far? Probably Sweden? Sweden. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.720 I've never been out of the country and now I've 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.800 been to like Canada and Sweden. But Canada is still 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.480 North America, so I don't know. Yeah, Canada is like 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.080 Diet America, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.960 we just kind of you can drive there. I don't 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.880 count that is leading the country because we drove there. Yeah, 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.600 But like I went to Sweden. Deaf Jam opened an 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.520 office in Sweden and they wanted to a are They 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.440 opened like a what do you call it a branch, 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.560 a branch of Deaf Jam and Sweden or something like that, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.440 and they wanted one of the American artists to come 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.680 perform to like you know what I'm saying, and they 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:37.360 asked me to do it. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.200 So that was super cool. What was this was? Did 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.840 you like IKEA's everywhere out there? Sweet? 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.200 Is that Switzerland or Sweden? That's Sweden and there there 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.240 that's what they were talking about. I didn't see one. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.120 Yeah, meat balls. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.480 Yeah that's literally what I asked bro when I got there. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.480 I asked about that in gang violence, So they don't 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.880 got guns out there, bro, they throw grenades in the 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:58.760 hotel lobbies. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:00.280 Like that's what bro? He was like. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.520 Yeah, he's like no, because I was like, shit, people 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:03.560 are out here like rapping. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:04.560 And ship you know what I'm saying, Like, what do 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.040 they talk about? Because it's not there. They talk about grenades. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.920 They're grenading each other dead ass, like you know the 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.000 UK's like they're out there each other. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.480 Yeah, Bro, in Sweden they like throw grenades in the 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:14.680 hotel It's like a warning. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.920 Wait, so there's no terrorism, you know? That is actual terror? 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.520 That's say is that happened in the US? Brother? That 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.520 would like make headlines everywhere. That's some real like that's 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.400 some drill music for real, which we're throwing grenades at people. 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.280 Yeah what rpgn are? 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.480 Yeah that's insane. How the hell do you get access 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.600 to grenades? You can't get guns though. That's what I'm wondering. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.680