WEBVTT - Bully w/ Kate Burton

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies.

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<v Speaker 3>These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 1>These are our stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Done done, Yay.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Welcome to the first episode of that Messed Up

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<v Speaker 1>n SVU podcast. We are comedians slash sv super fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kara Clink, I'm Liza Trigger and we're very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously this is about SVU true crime and we

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<v Speaker 2>will get into all of that. But first we want

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<v Speaker 2>to introduce each other because I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a first date. We want you guys to

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<v Speaker 1>know who we are, Like, who are these random women

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<v Speaker 1>that are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that look beautiful in our drawing and lego, You're like, who, who?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are these gals with such great hair?

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<v Speaker 3>And we will let you know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're both comedians. I've been doing comedy for about

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years, stand up comedy for about twelve years. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>married to another stand up comedian. We have a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>month old toddler baby girl, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Rosie did start saying my name. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't want to tell anyone her name.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rosie does say Liza's name. And also she now

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<v Speaker 1>when I am busy, she goes mama podcasts like, so

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<v Speaker 1>she'll be like even if I'm like in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear her being like mama podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite is when she goes nut Anyways, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>comedian as well. I've been doing it eleven years. Nine

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<v Speaker 2>is when I started, and you know, I dabble in

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<v Speaker 2>some acting, but mostly mostly we do comedy. And I

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<v Speaker 2>am not married. I would like to be married. My

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<v Speaker 2>ulterior motive to my whole career is to find a spouse.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't be like to you can't know too

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<v Speaker 2>much about me, but you have Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I am looking for a wife. I will settle for

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<v Speaker 2>a husband, but I would prefer I would prefer a wife.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I but I am child free by choice.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm an aunt in the traditional sense where I have

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<v Speaker 2>nieces and nephews. And then I do feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>have kind of babies coast to coast that I like

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<v Speaker 2>buying presents for and hugging.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that.

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<v Speaker 1>May definitely have a relationship with my daughter. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell people a little bit about you Lisa, so that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't actually have to like brag on yourself, because

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<v Speaker 1>you do have a very impressive life slash resume. Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>came to this country at age three from Russia. She

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<v Speaker 1>has it's like, actually very delightful to hear her speak

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<v Speaker 1>in like rush English to her parents on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's even better is trying to explain to my

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<v Speaker 2>parents what a podcast is. That's been the most fun

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<v Speaker 2>thing to try to explain. She's a Chicago native. She

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<v Speaker 2>moved to New York after doing stand up in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>For a long time, and that's where we met Hanna,

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<v Speaker 1>who is our intrepid producer. Hannah Say Hi, what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever hear a third voice talking on our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually Hannah, our amazingly organized producer. We both have

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<v Speaker 1>known her for years and years through comedy. Lisa has

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<v Speaker 1>had a half hour on Comedy Central. She's got a

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<v Speaker 1>half hour special on Netflix as part of the Degenerates. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>she says she dabbles in acting. She recently I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was a scene stealer in the Amazon movie King of

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<v Speaker 1>Staten Island. So if you want to go check that

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<v Speaker 1>out and get a little bit more of an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what if you want to see me in a

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<v Speaker 1>low ponytail and a tie.

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<v Speaker 3>That's movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what your waitress outfit in that movie is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like what my waitress outfit was like pretty much like

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<v Speaker 1>just so unflattering. I had a clip on tie, like

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<v Speaker 1>I very much identified with your character.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the makeup chair, I kept being like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you sure we just can't raise the ponytail maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>fun messy bun, and they're like no, And I kept

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<v Speaker 2>trying to fight and they're like jud said no. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't imagine jud Is like give her a

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<v Speaker 2>low ponytail or else this side park and jellet down.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess he did do that. You were also

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing stand up and I guess I did just

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<v Speaker 2>call myself amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>But we are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I loved going to your album recording. Your album

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<v Speaker 2>Undefeated is so fucking good. I love the Disney Princess joke.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a if you're looking for the best transitional lenses

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<v Speaker 2>joke that there is. Undefeated is the album for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember sitting on the floor and it was

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<v Speaker 2>because it was sold out and it was so much

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<v Speaker 2>fun and then you are a very skilled writer. I

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<v Speaker 2>always love when I type how I talk into something

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<v Speaker 2>and then you make it palatable for the world and grammar,

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<v Speaker 2>which is amazing. But yeah, girl code younger and then

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest brag of all fucking time, as you wrote

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<v Speaker 2>for drag Race, which is amazing. We like to say

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<v Speaker 2>our ven diagram of friendship is SVU Drag Race Housewives.

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<v Speaker 3>That is us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we love housewives and back today you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a little taste of housewives.

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<v Speaker 3>And we didn't even plan that. That's pretty fucking cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It just naturally are all of our passions collide. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I just need Miley Cyrus to do an episode and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll wear.

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<v Speaker 1>There have a bit more drag Queen episodes also of

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<v Speaker 1>U s view. We need to facilitate that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll message some agents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, we have a lot of common interests.

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<v Speaker 2>And before I met you, Kara, I like, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I was living in Chicago, I knew who you were,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you knew like all girl comics know

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<v Speaker 2>each other, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're all like

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<v Speaker 2>pretty on board with each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we started there were less.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's like so fun to have so many Housewife

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<v Speaker 2>fans as comedians everywhere. But we met at UCB East

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<v Speaker 2>at your show If You Build.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had we had met, I think, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was like the first time we truly connected was at

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<v Speaker 1>my show. In the green room. We started talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how we both like one of us brought up us

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<v Speaker 1>for you and we were like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. And then you told me about this Twitter account. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>doink Doink, which is and it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It will it tweets anytime any Law and Order is

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<v Speaker 2>on television, what episode, what channel, and when it starts,

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<v Speaker 2>and it influences my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I'm on Twitter and I'm like, oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>God, in three minutes and I'll like go to eye

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<v Speaker 2>on immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we discovered that we both love SVU, we

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<v Speaker 1>both love true crime. We have a favorite forensic pathologist

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<v Speaker 1>in common.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Michael Badden.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't we love him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you have another favorite, let us know, because

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<v Speaker 2>he is the king of.

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<v Speaker 4>Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Lee is a good one, the one who did

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<v Speaker 1>like I think OJ and stuff like that. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>a good friends of pathologist.

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<v Speaker 2>But doctor Topsy, it was just so good because people

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<v Speaker 2>would write to him and be like please help, please.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to switch the death certificate to be not

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<v Speaker 2>natural so we can investigate. And I just love that

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<v Speaker 2>he's a superhero and travels with his little briefcase from

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<v Speaker 2>town to town solving crimes. But yeah, and we love

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<v Speaker 2>SVU in the way that I'm assuming everyone does, which

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<v Speaker 2>is you want to have sex with either Christopher Maloney

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<v Speaker 2>or Murushka harget Day or both of them at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time. Like that is that now while we're watching

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<v Speaker 2>a glimpse of Stabler shirtless and angry and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>contemplating about his divorce, that's what that's what we want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have like loved this show from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>It premiered on my birthday in nineteen ninety nine, really,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it's a I think it's written in the

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<v Speaker 1>stars for me to be obsessed with the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one time I went to a Pailey Center

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<v Speaker 2>event and it was the SVU panel, and I bought

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<v Speaker 2>my ticket too late, so I didn't even get to

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<v Speaker 2>sit in the room with the people. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>sit in a side room at the event and watch

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<v Speaker 2>it on the screen. And then afterwards, me and a

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<v Speaker 2>few like ten women just stood outside in the rain,

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to see Marishka and Peter walk out, and then

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards we were just deflated.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you were.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those women, please let me know if you

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<v Speaker 2>were standing in the rain with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can do that at That's Messed Up pod

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<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>I watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I did feel very I felt happy to see

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<v Speaker 2>a glimpse of them together and in love, but then

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<v Speaker 2>also sad for myself that I was willing to get

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<v Speaker 2>wet just to look at her once.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>She lived on my same neighborhood in New York for

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years and I never saw. My sister did, but

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw her. If we can see, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's her house. I would love to see that. She

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<v Speaker 1>needs to do a seventy three questions. I'm on for Vogue.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see the inside of her home so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So this podcast is two years in the making, over

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<v Speaker 1>two years. I originally came up with this idea in

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty seventeen and had a sorry Lisa, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a different partner associated we recorded a bunch of episodes

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<v Speaker 1>together and then just scheduling wise, it wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>work out with her. She's her name is Jackie Zebrowski.

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<v Speaker 1>You should all follow her and listen to her podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Page seven is one of her podcasts, and it's very popular,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think she just had time for this.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, thank you, Jackie. Honestly so glad you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it. This is a dream come true that now

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<v Speaker 2>when I watch us view.

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, what are you doing. I'm like, I'm working.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do anything with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lisa perfectly was moving to LA at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>so it like all worked out, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we ended up going to pitching exactly right, and Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>had already been thinking of doing something like this, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a perfect match.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love so much is in the emails, Like

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<v Speaker 2>when our manager messaged us to say that Hannah also

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do an SU podcast was the same day

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<v Speaker 2>that you gave birth to Rosie. Yeah, so it's just

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<v Speaker 2>so cute that I'm like, oh, this is great news.

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<v Speaker 2>She is in labor. But then I still emailed you

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<v Speaker 2>being like, I know you're in labor, but we have

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<v Speaker 2>to write this thing for the thing, and our manager

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<v Speaker 2>was like, leave Kara alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, okay, you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, we should let her give birth to Rosie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, so a labor of love. This has been

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<v Speaker 1>a long time coming and we're so excited that now

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are hearing it. And it's called that's messed up,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is a for those who know and for

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<v Speaker 1>those who don't, it is a reference to Iced Tea.

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<v Speaker 1>Iced Ta used to say that's messed up all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently writers it was apparently it was a big drinking

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<v Speaker 1>game and the writers stopped writing it in for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But from seasons like two to nine or ten, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can catch Iced Tea saying, oh, that's messed

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<v Speaker 1>up about a lot of stuff, and it's true. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when Lie'sa and I are researching these true crimes or

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<v Speaker 1>watching these episodes, we definitely say that to each other

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<v Speaker 1>all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, very heinous crimes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially the layout of the show, in case you're

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<v Speaker 1>just stumbling upon it right now, is we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to jump all over the show's twenty two season history.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to pick episodes that we like and that

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<v Speaker 1>are based on true crimes, and we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a recap, little analysis of the episode, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a deep dive into the true crime

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<v Speaker 1>that the episode is based on, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Our dream come true for us as we get to

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<v Speaker 2>interview and act from the show from that episode. So

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<v Speaker 2>every episode we get to talk to a person from

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<v Speaker 2>the episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you believe it? Oh my god, And.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to some really awesome people. So yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>really excited.

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<v Speaker 2>And we recognize that Sview is a fantasy about the

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<v Speaker 2>legal system, and we love the show, we love the characters,

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<v Speaker 2>but we do also realize this is not the reality

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<v Speaker 2>of how cops behave. This is absolutely not how the

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<v Speaker 2>justice system works, and we plan to call that out

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<v Speaker 2>whenever we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, the show is called SVU and the

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<v Speaker 1>show is about special victims, and our podcast is called

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<v Speaker 1>That's Messed Up. So obviously we plan to tackle some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty intense subject matter, whether it is fictional or not.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're comedians, so our goal is to entertain, but

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<v Speaker 1>we will also be taking a page from Olivia Benson's

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<v Speaker 1>book and always being respectful of the victims and our listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to get into our episode. And side note,

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<v Speaker 2>we did record this before the election, so if you

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<v Speaker 2>hear us talking about forty five as present day. That's

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<v Speaker 2>because we did not have our celebratory election yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're so excited for you guys to hear this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and to get started. And I mean, ultimately my

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<v Speaker 1>goal is just to be able to afford Hulu without ads, guys, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to meet those women in the rain and

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<v Speaker 2>find a spouse. No, and we need and we want

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<v Speaker 2>to be guest stars on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>We want this.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to become so popular that the SV writer's

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<v Speaker 2>room is like, well, I guess these ladies have.

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<v Speaker 1>To find a dead body. They just let us find

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<v Speaker 1>a body. We're not asking to like be incorporated into

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<v Speaker 1>the cat. We just want to find a body.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Pre theme song, pre theme song. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into Bully Season twelve, episode eighteen. This starts

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<v Speaker 1>with like the classic disclaimer that's like, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>fictional story and does not depict any real person or event.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we started a podcast about it. It also starts

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<v Speaker 1>in an art gallery and it made me miss New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, it starts singling wine. This episode opens hot

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<v Speaker 1>with a cameo from Viva La Diva herself Luenela Countess

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<v Speaker 1>Luenne de la Sepp.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe that our interests just intertwine so hard?

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<v Speaker 1>And she was wearing a silly hat too. I'm actually like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not. But I'm actually really surprised that more Housewives

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<v Speaker 1>have not done cameos on this, Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they get like Paty, No, not Patrie. What's the name

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<v Speaker 1>pat the guy from New York one.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like iconic New York guy. He's always like doing

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<v Speaker 1>little news clips other episodes we're watching. I have Tamaron Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>like all kinds of like New York journalistic people and

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<v Speaker 1>uh Sus Simmons like Chuck Scarborough, like people that do

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<v Speaker 1>local news in New York are always in these episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, the Housewives are part of that canon.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wonder if, shockingly lu Anne is the best

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<v Speaker 2>actor of them.

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<v Speaker 1>All, Like I know maybe that like Ramona, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to behave, I don't know they know

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<v Speaker 1>how to behave in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Ramona is a terror.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Luanne's nuts, But yeah, I think Luanne has

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<v Speaker 2>a level of professionalism that maybe the other queen's and.

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<v Speaker 1>She just had to play. She just had to play

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<v Speaker 1>like sort of a pompous like art person and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like works for her. Uh so, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>started this gallery opening Leuyne like Waltz is in like

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<v Speaker 1>just yelling the name of the artist in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of a gallery, just Andreas, where are you? And who

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<v Speaker 1>walks into an event like that? She brings him back

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<v Speaker 1>back like to like the behind the scenes of the

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<v Speaker 1>art gallery to be like, I love this new piece

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<v Speaker 1>you did. It's so beautiful and it's just drips of

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<v Speaker 1>red going down a wall. And he's like, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>my piece of art, that's real blood. So dunt dun

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<v Speaker 1>you know how some they should have an all musical

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<v Speaker 1>episode of sv you okay, I mean that's definitely something

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<v Speaker 1>you could pitch. I don't know how that Daria did it?

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<v Speaker 3>Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>So the blood is coming from upstairs where all like

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<v Speaker 1>a body has been murdered, the body of Ellen Seslin.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the CSFO of a company called Luscious Grape, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a high end alcohol distributor, and she's just

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<v Speaker 1>lying there with her blood pooling down this vent that

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<v Speaker 1>has now gone into the art gallery. The cause of

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<v Speaker 1>death is an exsanguinated from a severed carotid. She also

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<v Speaker 1>has anal trauma. There's no DNA and there's signs of

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<v Speaker 1>a struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>And this always reminds me of the John mulaney joke,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm mad at him so hard that he has

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<v Speaker 2>the best SVU jokes that have ever been written and

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<v Speaker 2>every episode but it is like, you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>swear on TV, but you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Say anal trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not even before the credits, like what the Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the credits are just getting started when they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>anal trauma. And so yeah, they find out that the

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<v Speaker 1>show downstairs is called Dollars in Death The Politics of Blood.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all just very coincidental. And the squad initially

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that this is just like a date gone wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how we piece out of the cold open.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go to the site of Luscious Grape. So

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<v Speaker 1>you need to understand to understand this episode, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to meet all the characters at the Luscious Grape Company. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this high end liquor distributor, wine and alcohol distributor. So

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<v Speaker 1>the first person do not fancy or sexy job like

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<v Speaker 1>of all the businesses, it's just like a distributor no,

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<v Speaker 1>when you work in wine and alcohol distribution like you do,

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<v Speaker 1>like wine and dine big clients, like I do, think

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<v Speaker 1>it is a kind of a cool I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people who work at like Diagio and like

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<v Speaker 1>big alcohol companies and you get to go to like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of parties and like do and it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty fun job.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You could sell booze like this tastes great.

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<v Speaker 2>I did always when I waitress, get excited when the

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<v Speaker 2>beer guys would come, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, yeah, like you want this beer.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, here's some koozies.

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<v Speaker 3>I did enjoy that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really the next natural step would be

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't running an international company of alcohol distribution.

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<v Speaker 3>Too many spreadsheets?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, working on this with you, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>so impressed with your organization and all the tabs and

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<v Speaker 2>the spreadsheets, and so I was, you know, hyping you

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<v Speaker 2>up to a friend and she goes, yeah, we make spreadsheets.

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<v Speaker 3>I work in an office.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have spreadsheets. And then someone else was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>tabs in a spreadsheet.

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<v Speaker 3>I do that too. Like no one is shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been doing it for decades and I've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it for two weeks NonStop.

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<v Speaker 1>How there's multiple tabs in a spreadsheet. Never seen it before,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, I love your adoration of my spreadsheet, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can keep it coming, Okay. So basically on the

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<v Speaker 1>Luscious Grabe website, there's this super fucking weird video. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a cult recruitment video, honestly, Like you first meet

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<v Speaker 1>a nett Cole who is the president CEO. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>meet Ellen, who is the dead woman, who is the CFO,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like they we started this in our garage

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey City. I'm like, okay, and then what is this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing with starting companies and garages? And we all

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<v Speaker 1>have to give it round of applause? No one cares. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. You had a garage in Jersey City. I

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<v Speaker 1>lived in a one bedroom apartment in New York with

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<v Speaker 1>two one window. So you meet all the different characters

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<v Speaker 1>at this place. I'm gonna just break it down for

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<v Speaker 1>you who they all are. So there's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a young douche named Justin. There's a young girl like

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<v Speaker 1>a baby spice named Carinn. There's an old Australian dude

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<v Speaker 1>named Donald, and then there's like a gay dude named Bruce.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never just call somebody just the gay dude,

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<v Speaker 1>but they literally do that in the episode like ten times,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's his only identity is that he's a gay

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<v Speaker 1>man and his name is Bruce. And his name is Bruce.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the gayest name on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the main characters that we meet in

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<v Speaker 1>this like insane recruitment video, and all they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>is how like much they love working there and how

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<v Speaker 1>it's this like amazing workplace. And I'm like, you just know,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody thought something's fucked. No one talks about their workplace

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<v Speaker 1>that way, Like you can be like, oh, it's great

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<v Speaker 1>to work here, but they're like, this is a family.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just too creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know something from the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>If company keeps saying we're family, that's not sign Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So their luscious grape dot net is their website. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess lusciuscrape dot com was taken by like a drag

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<v Speaker 1>queen or something. They're also I need to point out

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<v Speaker 1>to our producer there is a co producer on the

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<v Speaker 1>show named Speedweed. We need to get that person for

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<v Speaker 1>an interview. Just let's make a note like who is Speedweed.

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<v Speaker 1>I always see their name in the credits, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you a man or you a woman? I need

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about Speedweed. So a neighbor approaches Benson.

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<v Speaker 1>A stabler tells them that Andreas the artist is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a creep that turns out to be sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a dead end. He's like a douche, but he's not

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that killed Ellen. He goes for hotter girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically like this is another episode where they keep acting

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<v Speaker 1>like Ellen is the ugliest woman on the planet, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's actually just like a perfectly lovely looking person who's

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<v Speaker 1>not a supermodel. And Andreas has continued to use Ellen's

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<v Speaker 1>blood on an art piece, which is creepy, but he

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<v Speaker 1>has an alibi, so he's not He's not like a

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<v Speaker 1>suspect anymore. So then we get into meeting Annette cole

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<v Speaker 1>in person, who is the CEO and founder of the company.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, Ellen was my best friend, the younger sister

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<v Speaker 1>I never had, we had dinner the night before. Luscious

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<v Speaker 1>Grape was our life, Jersey City family whatever. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Red Flag Central. I think, I mean, just the way

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<v Speaker 1>she's talking, like no one has I don't know such

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect relationship with their coworker and business partner. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm jaded.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have to lie to the cops because if

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<v Speaker 2>you say one thing, it could be used against you.

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<v Speaker 2>What if she was like, yeah, she was kind of lazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're like it's you. Yeah, Amanda an Ox, perfect example,

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<v Speaker 1>said a couple weird things and was in jail for

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<v Speaker 1>like three years. Okay, so Bruce kind of gives us

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<v Speaker 1>an insight into Ellen. That's a little bit different saying

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<v Speaker 1>that she was a blast at parties. They call her

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<v Speaker 1>a fruit fly. I don't think we're allowed to say

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<v Speaker 1>that anymore. It's like there's a couple words for women

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<v Speaker 1>that have a lot of gay male friends, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think any of them really fly anymore, including fruit flies.

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<v Speaker 1>Fruitfly is probably the nicest, probably the nicest, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that many gig guys like being called a fruit.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this episode they call them a fruit four times,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's very I mean, what year is this episode from.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh, I just have so many fruit tattoos that

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it only only gives me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I know, it's like I would love to be fruity,

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<v Speaker 1>but I understand, you know. Yeah, So Bruce reveals that

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone to AA. She's sober, so it appears she's

0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:35.679
<v Speaker 1>been drinking the night of the murder. So that's a

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:36.320
<v Speaker 1>weird thing.

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, they say, they say that she gets drunk

0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 2>so she can fuck because no one wants to fuck

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:41.919
<v Speaker 2>her ugly face.

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they actually she is deformed. So the cops get

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>into Ellen's phone and then we get into like a

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.399
<v Speaker 1>serious tangent in this episode. So I'm just going to

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.159
<v Speaker 1>go into it really quickly because it does waste a

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.040
<v Speaker 1>ton of time. But there's this tangent where Ellen has

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 1>been buying leather goods at a website called My Leather Fantasy,

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.280
<v Speaker 1>not SNM. It's high end leather goods. The guy who

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.800
<v Speaker 1>owns it his name Wan Alvarez. He's been harassing her,

0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 1>so they find they go to find him. He gets

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>shot by a man in the street who says he

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:16.280
<v Speaker 1>killed my Peggy because he harassed this other man's wife

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Peggy until she had a heart attack, because he thinks

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that harassing people will cause them to leave bad reviews online,

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and a bad review is just as good as a

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:29.680
<v Speaker 1>good review. So this is some kind of psychotic YELP conspiracy,

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 1>where like people are still going to go to your

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 1>website because they have reviews that this man calls me

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.240
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the night and screams at me,

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I would pass on my leather fantasy.

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 2>He also has a great quote quote of this episode

0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 2>for me, and he goes, Okay, so I harassed the bitch.

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's great. Yeah.

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I didn't kill anyone. I just called an

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.639
<v Speaker 1>old woman with Alzheimer's at three am and screamed at

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>her about paying for her leather. So basically he's like yes,

0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and he presses God, Yeah, any press.

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Is good for us exactly.

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 1>So once we get to the end of this tangent,

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>he's got an alibi for Ellen's murder. So even though

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.560
<v Speaker 1>he was harassing or he didn't do anything, now we

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:12.959
<v Speaker 1>get the flip. The script is flipped a little bit.

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Warner comes in our girl Tamaratuni not to me the

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 1>luggage brand, and she's saying it might not be murder.

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>She's ruling the manner of death as undetermined. And we

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>also discover, which I feel like you and I were

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.919
<v Speaker 1>just talking about this the other day, that Ellen has trickotillomania,

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:30.360
<v Speaker 1>which is when you pull your hair out.

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a friend who who does that.

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh no, I was talking about with my husband

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 1>because in an episode of Pen fifteen one of the

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>girls pulled out a piece of her hair. I thought

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe they were going to go into a tricotillomania plot,

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but it was not that. I'm just impressed that you

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>can say it fully. Yeah, I mean it's it's actually

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty fanetic.

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's also another fun quote. Yeah, Benson goes

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 2>and got anal trauma on the way down.

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I don't remember, but I have it in.

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 1>All big letters, right, Like they're basically like, sh it's

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>possible that she just fell against this vase because she

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.639
<v Speaker 1>was so drunk and the big chunk of glass like

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>severed her carotid artery. Oh my god, Way is the

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.120
<v Speaker 1>kordit artery in your buttthole? No, it's in your neck.

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 1>That's where the that's where the cut was. But yeah,

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 1>that's why Benson's saying. She's like what and then she

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>somehow got anal trauma like it during the fall, Like

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>she's like not buying that this was an accident.

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so everyone Grape.

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys are such good friends that she said

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>is it in your butthole? And you didn't even comment

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>on that just but no, it's in the neck and

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>we're so loving towards her. Wait, your karate artery being

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 1>in your butthole is really funny. Okay, So everyone at

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Luscia's Grape is stonewalling in like a very creepy way,

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like they're all saying the same words. They're all saying

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>like her death is a major loss to our company,

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Like they're all it's very culty.

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 3>They've been told instructed what to see.

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>And Benson's like, if you guys are a family, why

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't you know that your best friend and sisters ripping

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>hair out of her hand? Yeah, mental illness is not

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a game. No no, So again they break someone breaks

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>into Ellen's loft, the cops go over. They find immediately

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>they find the one thing that the brak the person

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that broke in was looking for, which is this little

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>panda flash drive. The flash drive has tons of videos

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>on it twist with Annette the CEO, like completely terrorizing

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>her employees, like in a way that's not just like, hey, guys,

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>we need to up productivity today. You guys messed up

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>last week. It's like, well, that's not even kind of menacing. No, yeah,

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm just saying a boss, Yeah, you're right,

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:31.919
<v Speaker 1>it's how you do yours.

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, my mein boss that's not criminal, would be like,

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 2>are you stupid?

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I asked for that an hour ago? Yeah yeah, yes, Okay.

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>So we're like, it's Miranda Priestley. It's kind of like

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 1>the level I think of. She wouldn't even say stupid.

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Randa Priestley would go, I demand excellence, bring fifty skirts

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 2>to the appointment today.

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't ask me another question.

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't have time for your bullshit. Yeah. So

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>she's calling, she's like making homophobic slurs, she's terrorizing them.

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>She slaps Ellen across the base. Okay, so they confronted

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>at with the videos. It's twenty films of her being

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>a complete psycho. The waiter from the dinner the night

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.919
<v Speaker 1>before says that she was also screaming at Ellen the

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>night before she was murdered, and that is just like denying,

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>pretending to cry.

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like crazy, how she.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Almost she offers like no excuse, She's like, this is

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>out of context. It's like there's no context where slapping

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>your employee across the face is like help.

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 3>A good thing.

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then Ic goes the Queen of means on

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a tear. Queen of Mean, so Bruce. So as they

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>go check in with all the different people that are

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>in the Little Luscious Grape cast list, So Bruce, the

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>gay guy has a two hundred thousand dollars car. Corinn

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the young girl is in therapy. I don't know why

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that is considered something lavish, but I guess it's like

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they think something's going on with her. Justin, the young

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>douche has this really nice house with like multiple levels,

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>which in New York is a staircase in New York

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>is weird and like very that's a step. He lives

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>with his mother, and we hear his mother yelling down

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Justin mother needs her juice, and it's like, really, what's

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>going on? His mother is a disabled former opera singer. Okay,

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>keep that in mind for later. So Huang tells them.

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 1>That tells the squad that all these people have Stockholm syndrome,

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Like they've all bonded to this woman emotionally to prevent

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>being abused by her, which kind of makes sense. And

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 1>they find out also that this company's about to be

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>sold for five hundred million dollars. We get a Morning

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Joe segment. Okay, so the tapes get leaked to the

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>media because Ellen sent them before she died. She sent

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 1>them to the media like I can't handle this anymore,

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>probably right after the dinner she had with a net

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>where Anette was yelling at her and threw a glass

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>at her.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 4>I think.

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So we get to this mob scene where all these

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>people are attacking a net. It's like, honestly iconic, Like,

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 1>she looks amazing. She's got dark sunglasses on, like probably

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.719
<v Speaker 1>something with like a fur collar at a don't really remember,

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like a head scarf over her head. And she's like

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 1>and they're like construction workers are yelling suck it, bitch

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>at her. Look. I don't condone calling women a bitch

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in this way, but it honestly, like really makes me

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>giggle in this context. You need to watch the episode.

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm gonna sue the NYPD for emotional distress

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and she's just like, out of my way. It's just

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of a fun scene. It reminds me of Ela. Yeah,

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>it's Cruella. It's Sunset Boulevard, Like, it's just very John Collins, Yes,

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>very jone call. Yeah. So all this press comes out,

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 1>the half a billion dollar offer is rescinded. The press

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>is completely savaging in it. Annette calls a press conference.

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>She's weepy, she's apologizing, she's like, I'm so sorry to everyone,

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and then she literally flips the switch, tells everybody, totally

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>pulls a fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, doesn't tell

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>anyone they're cool, fuck you, fuck you, and then kills

0:28:56.440 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>herself at this press conference in front of everybody. So

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that's like a with a gun, Yeah, with a gun. Sorry,

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>sho sells out a gun and is like boom, blows

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>her brains out. Shocking, it's very shocked. I don't know

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>one got ideas from this episode. No, very shocking. So

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Huang said, it's like kind of classic. She like feigned

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>contrition to draw people in, but then traumatizes them. So

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like what you get when you mix a sociopath

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and a narcissist, A ticking time bomb, That's what Huang says.

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>So Annette leaves every penny in her will to her dog.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Nothing goes to her quote unquote family members at Luscious Grape,

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and then Bruce gets nailed in a hit and run.

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>We essentially find out that all the Luscious Grape employees

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>are turning on one another because they were all holding

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>on just until this five hundred million dollars sale so

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they could like be rich, and they all thought that

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>each other was the one that killed Ellen and like

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>jeopardized the whole thing. So Baby Spice is the one

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>that hits Bruce with her grandfather's scar because she thinks

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Bruce is the one that killed Ellen, and Bruce is like,

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do it. She was dead when I got

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to her house. So then they basically kind of figure

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>out old Australian guys the one who did the break in.

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>They all had their own little crimes. The last person

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>left is Justin, the douche who lives with his mom.

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>So they get to his house and Warner shows up,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and we figure out that the reason Ellen was drunk

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>is because someone got her drunk through her butthole. See

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>your butthole. You were right about something with the butthole.

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And this is why we watch us view yeah

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>for her last second, a.

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Last second, but chugging trist Yeah.

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, it's not like someone or the

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 2>medical examiner told Benson like, hey, by the way, something

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>with the alcohol.

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>She's just like the opera singer the throat.

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a butto Yeah, like she just like I love detective.

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Work like that.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Well she pieces together, yeah, because what was there her

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>blood alcohol.

0:30:58.080 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Was Like, how did they know she didn't drink it

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>because there was no alcohol in her stomach, So there

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>was no alcohol in her actual stomach. But she had

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a blood alcohol of one point six, which is way

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>over the limit. So they basically say, oh, yeah, it's

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>an old alcoholics trick to put alcohol like through your anus,

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>or girls do it with tampons. I had heard of

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>girls doing it with tampons. I've never tried it. I

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>like to just get drunk the old fashioned way. But

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>so basically Benson realizes that they have to go to

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Justin Okay, and we kind of figure this out as

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>we go. At the end, Justin admits that he came

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>on to Alan, she rejected him. He tried again, she

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>slapped him, He pushed her. She fell into the vase

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and saw the gl and then the glass was in

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>her neck. So that actually was an accident, and he's like,

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>there was so much blood. So then he put the

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>alcohol up her butt to make it seem like she

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>was drunk and had this accident, right, and then the

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>cops basically get it out of him that he grew

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>up learning how to do this trick because his mother

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>is an alcoholic opera singer who couldn't damage her vocal cords.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And so that's how he help his mom get drunk

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>is like pudding. That's why the entire episode, when we've

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>gone to Justin's house, the mom keeps going, mother needs

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>her juice. It's like her special juice. Oh, so he's

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>but he's been helping.

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, as he's getting carried away by the cops.

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 2>The cops don't even care about this old woman. She's

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>just left literally just and like the cops are like

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 2>bye man, Yeah, and he goes mother's very clever.

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>She taught me a lot of things, and you're like, what.

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Else He in the end is very willy lowman, where

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like they all wanted money, they all try and

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>they get nothing.

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very willy wonka.

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>They you get nothing. You stole a physy, lifting drinks.

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>You let your boss slap you across the face, you

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>get nothing.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>How much money would you work on a like if

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 2>let's say you were treated like this set a job,

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>slapped in the face, insulted.

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<v Speaker 1>What would be the paycheck you'd need for slaps? Well,

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean millions? Okay, I don't know, I can't, I

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I want to get into the million a year.

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>You'd be okay with your boss pulling your hair and

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>slapping you once a week. Ten ten million, ten million

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to gets lapped once a week. Oh, it's a once

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a week slap. Yeah, yeah, I guess you'd get used

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>to it. Yeah, that sounds terrible, all right, all right,

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>let's move on. I love this episode though. It's got

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>so much. It's just like a it's it's got twists and.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Turns and got chugs a housewife. Yeah, leather fantasy. You

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 2>knew that we were going to start gay from the past. Yeah,

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 2>a baby spice reference just from you. A grandpa, the

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>name Peggy, our friend's mom's name Peggy.

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 3>We like that. Yeah, it was a good episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're gonna take a quick break and we come back.

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into the actual scenario that this

0:33:42.920 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>is based on Welcome Back Great Ads, So this is fun.

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>This is not even a full time like is there

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 2>There was a little tax evasion, but this character is

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>based on a New York legend, Leona Hemsley, and I

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 2>watched an ID channel Barbara Investigates Barbara Walters as one

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 2>of my heroes, and so I was really happy to

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>see their interview. And this interview took place like right

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>before she was going to jail, so she was not happy.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 2>She was pissed, and she kept playing like I'm the

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 2>good person, I've done nothing wrong. So it was like

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 2>really lovely while walking around her mansion. So I loved that.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>So who Leona is? She was a billionaire Hotel maven

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and her biggest rival was Donald Trump, which.

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 1>You've got me on Leona Helmsley's side immediately.

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know what's crazy? Who brought Leona down was

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Rudy Giuliani. Oh my god, which now is all connected?

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Like were they friends even back then in the eighties?

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Were they always conniving to this evil?

0:34:59.600 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You know why?

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Supremacist lunacy? I don't. I just don't know what it is.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Or so that's just interesting how this is all happening

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>it was the eighties.

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Greed was good, baby.

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>She was known for lavish parties celebrities and she never

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>had to pay for her parties because they were in

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>her hotels. But like Elizabeth Taylor would party Michael Jackson.

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Like in the eighties, the Hemsleys were the fucking party

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>billionaires of New York.

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say really quick that my family

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>has stayed at the Hemsley sand Castle in Sarasota, Florida,

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's not that nice.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is the eighties. I bet they.

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>We stayed there in the two thousands and it was

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>not great. Yeah, that's like most of Vegas. It's like

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>this used to be nice, so fucking gross. The eighties

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>were pretty.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Garish. Is that a word? Okay?

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>So she I'll just give you some stats though. Fifty

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>thousand apartments they owned her and her husband, four five

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred hotel rooms, and seven million square feet of office space,

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.280
<v Speaker 2>and they lived on the top floor of their most

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:08.240
<v Speaker 2>grand hotel, the Park Lane Hotel.

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 3>She didn't grow up rich.

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>She was a nineteen twenties daughter Jew immigrants from Lithuania.

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Poor dad made hats.

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 2>She dropped out of high school at sixteen, married and

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:22.800
<v Speaker 2>divorced twice mother by twenty so, you know, nothing too wild.

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 2>But then she became a receptionist at a real estate firm.

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Within a few months was a broker, and within a

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>few years top realtor.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 3>She was a closer baby.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, immigrants know how to work hard.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 2>And so when she met her husband, she was older

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 2>and she was forty and she was worth a million dollars.

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 2>And I just feel like, as a single chick, single

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>mom in New York, being worth a million dollars is impressed.

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 1>In eighties. Yeah, it's super impressive and big fun thing.

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Harry was married. So she met this dude and she's like,

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 2>we're in love. And he left his Quaker wife life

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.439
<v Speaker 2>in a second for this party bitch because he wanted

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>to live a fun life. And his other wife like

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 2>they didn't drink no coffee, just like very religious losers.

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 3>And he also started out poor.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 2>He would collect rent for tenements and then he crushed

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>it during the depression because the banks needed someone to

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 2>manage all these buildings, and so he started managing buildings.

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 3>For banks during the depression. Oh okay, and so that's

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 3>how we made money.

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 2>And he found investors and yeah, so he became a

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>real estate person.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know.

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>They're like this real estate power couple. Then once they

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:35.399
<v Speaker 1>get together, yeah.

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 2>And he like they really did love each other. It

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 2>seems like I don't think it was just for money.

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe it was, but he was excited to

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 2>finally live this like gold fancy fun lifestyle after like

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 2>living with his wife of forty years. Who are They

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 2>were married for thirty four years and Leona was more fun.

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know it was there a big age difference.

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think. I don't know. Okay, good question, But.

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like if he was managing buildings and

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:03.879
<v Speaker 1>like the depression, he's probably a little older than Leo.

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he died before her. Yeah, so you're right.

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Also he did.

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So in nineteen sixty one he had his dreams

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 2>come true and he bought the Empire State Building.

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.240
<v Speaker 3>So he owned the Empire State Building.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 2>I try to see who owns it now, and it's

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 2>just a giant trust and I was like, I can't,

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I cannot, I can't weed through this. I can't wea

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>through all these people who own it. But the Empire.

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>He owned the Empire State Building. But he didn't treat

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 2>it like a jewel. And that's the thing, like he wanted.

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 2>He grew up poor, and when you're poor, I think

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.800
<v Speaker 2>it fucks up your brain because like he reduced the

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 2>maintenance crew and the cleaning.

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was cheaper light building in the eighties. I

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>feel like the first time I went through was in

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the eighties or the nineties, and it was not nice,

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it was gross. Yeah, he just didn't let it.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>He just had that hold your money tight vibe and

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>so he didn't even do anything fun whatever. So they

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>had money, they married, and she just revolutionized his life

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 2>through gold on everything and bought all these luxury hotels.

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Her and Trump are fighting.

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's weird that they're fighting because they're like twin people.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>They're like, they say, well, so they don't like each other.

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Narcissis don't want another narciss rights.

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 3>That's true.

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 2>And then and they know their tricks. So and we

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.720
<v Speaker 2>talked about this before we recorded. When is a woman

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 2>an actual like bitch, evil person or is she just

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 2>like a Miranda Priestley and really good at her job

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 2>and being judged unfairly and like men want a mommy

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 2>to baby them and not a boss. Right, so it's like,

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 2>was she evil or not? You were asking this bitch

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 2>is crazy. She loved firing people. She would fire people

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 2>on the spot. Someone would be at the elevator. She

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 2>would be like, ugh, you're fired. Like she loved to

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 2>fire people. She was a micromanager and.

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Her nickname was the Queen of mean yeah, which they

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>say in this episode about.

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 2>So what happened was she joined with this advertising company

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and they were like, this is what we're going to do,

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>and no one's ever done this before. They're like, you're

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the queen of your castle and we're going to put

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.359
<v Speaker 2>you in the commercials and you are the queen at

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 2>the hotels and if people come to these hotels, they get.

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 3>To hang out with the fucking queen.

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 1>And then she fired the person who made the advertising coming.

0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 3>So that's what happened.

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, she was an iron fist, like she wanted

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 2>shit to be perfect and why not she you know her,

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 2>her name's on it.

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So she.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Loved firing people.

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>She was suspicious of everyone, suspicious of her son. Everyone's

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 2>stealing stuff. And you're asking, is she evil or she

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 2>just a tough boss? Okay, So her son dies about

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 2>forty two, she turned on her daughter in law, gave

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 2>her the bill for the funeral and to move the

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>body from New York to Florida, and evicted her and

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>her grandchild from the Hemsley property.

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's like despicable, and she was cheap and just

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 2>fought with people like haggled constantly, even though she had

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money.

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>And this she sounds like she could be president, except

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that she's a woman. That is what's upsetting. I'd rather

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Leona be the president.

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 2>At least she had a sense of humor, you know, like,

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 2>at least she had dime like dressed well yeah, you

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, not a boxy suit. Like it

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 2>is crazy to have these two despicable lunatics from the

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 2>eight and one is the leader of our country right

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 2>now it is, or hopefully not, you know, we'll see

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 2>when the stairs. But anyway, so that this is her

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.399
<v Speaker 2>downfall and what she got in trouble for. She bought

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 2>a mansion in Connecticut in nineteen eighty three. You're from Connecticut.

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>She bought it for eleven million dollars and she wanted

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 2>to renovate. And at the time her renovation seemed crazy,

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 2>but now I'm like, this bitch was on fire. She

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 2>wanted speakers in the bushes so she can listen to

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>music and play tennis. Yeah, seems not out of line

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>at all.

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't want to like hit a couple balls around

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>with Iya the Tiger playing come on. Yeah, and she

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.959
<v Speaker 1>wanted a marble dance floor on top of the pool. Again,

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>it seems fuel.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just crazy how much house renovation standards have changed

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 2>from the eighties till now, because I'm like, this doesn't.

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Seem very easy.

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but she wanted to save money, and just like

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 2>our forty fifth president, she decided not to pay any

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 2>of her contractors and charged everything to.

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>The business, which is a legal Yeah.

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 2>So if Rudy was on her side and not his,

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe she would be in charge in their country, like

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 2>they're they're the same.

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 3>So she didn't pay anyone.

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 2>So they got an anonymous tip to a New York

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Post reporter. He got a call and said, Leona is

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 2>a crook and do you want to win a Pulitzer prize?

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Whoa, And that's all he got. So that's like spicy,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he agreed to meet this reporter agreed to

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 2>meet someone in Manhattan. He got these files, started calling

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 2>people and started figuring shit out, and then the US

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Attorney Juliani started to investigate from the New York Post article.

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 2>So the New York Post posted this article on all

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 2>of her schemings and how she's not paying people and

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:39.439
<v Speaker 2>that she's a crook. Giuliani starts investigating, and he says,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 2>usually it's really really hard to get witnesses to talk.

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 2>He said, people were volunteering everywhere because they hated her

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 2>so much, so they just sat back and people, like

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 2>dozens of people were just calling and calling and being like,

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 2>she didn't pay me here, she did this, she did that,

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 2>she's this.

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Like she wasn't able to successfully Stockholm syndrome the mall

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>with the promises of millions of dollars like in this episode.

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 2>But no, no, Les's just scrape no anybody. So the

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 2>hatred was so huge for her, and she abused so

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 2>many people that April fourteenth, nineteen eighty eight, they announced

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>an indictment of Leona Hemsley and thirty five counts of

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 2>tax evasion false records that showed personal as business expenses.

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 2>I do this too, but that's because I'm so I

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 2>am really scared that one day I've enough money. But

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I definitely just put everything in my bad I just

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 2>h know, at the end, my account's always like this

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>isn't a business.

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? I'm like, I'm just I'm confused.

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:35.399
<v Speaker 3>But what sucks? And I am on her side.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Here it says she only didn't pay four million dollars

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 2>in taxes, but she is in total paid six hundred

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 2>million dollars in taxes, so it's like a small percentage

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 2>of what she was doing.

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 3>So she's pissed.

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, everyone thinks I don't pay taxes. I've

0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.240
<v Speaker 2>paid six hundred million in taxes.

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>So another reason she's above Trump is that she'll show

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>her tax returns.

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, but so million. And she says that she

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>brought a blank check to the government. I don't know

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 2>how you do this, and here's four million here, we'll

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 2>pay it. We don't care, And they didn't.

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 1>They still want her to go to jail. Yeah. So,

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and guess who her lawyer is.

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Alan Dershowitz is in here, and he's like, it's a misdemeanor. Chill, relax,

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing?

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Like she but I'm gonna get ahead of myself because

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 2>it's too funny. She didn't pay him, She never paid,

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 2>she never Paiditz.

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 3>She was pissed and didn't pay him. So I love that.

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:37.720
<v Speaker 1>But he was like whatever, Like I don't understand why

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>he's being why this is happening.

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 3>It's not that big of a deal.

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>And a housekeeper overheard Leona Hamsley saying, we don't pay taxes.

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Only little people paid taxes. Oh yeah, that's a famous

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>quote of hers. Yeah, so the housekeeper heard her say that.

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 1>And also her husband, Harry was like old and sick

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and couldn't stand trial, so it was all it was

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 1>all her. Oh I didn't even realize he was still

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a he was still alive at the span.

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.919
<v Speaker 2>Eight And yeah, Harry was old and sick and got

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 2>off the ticket. So only she stood trial and then

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the media just came out and so so yeah.

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 1>So go on, So what did she get for a sentence?

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 2>But the thing, so Trump had called her a disgrace

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 2>to humanity, which is takes one to no one. Yeah,

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 2>and then the mayor called her a wicked witch.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Well like that's the thing.

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>So they also said she wasn't able to get a

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.839
<v Speaker 2>fair trial because the press was not.

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>In New York City when everybody like she was just

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>such a hater to hate her. Yeah, she was just

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like I was saying, when I grew up, Leona Helmsley

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>was like a punchline, Like you just I knew who

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>she was. And I was like eight or nine, you

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like I just knew what was

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 1>up that she was some kind of like mean lady.

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah, you grew up on the East Coast,

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 2>because I also use four and I don't really remember this.

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah yeah, yeah, East Coast, like not that far

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>from New York. Also, I'm from Connecticut, so she was

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where she bought this house, but it's

0:45:56.120 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>probably near me where I grew up. Her lawyer revealed

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>her age in court, and she was pissed, and she said,

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I have a temper. I have a temper, but I

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>won't say it's terrible. So I love that.

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 2>August thirtieth, day before my birthday, eighty nine, she was

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 2>found guilty of thirty three counts of tax evasion and

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>sentenced to four years in prison, but she got Dershowitz

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>got the state to drop their charges, just not federal charges,

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and so she did, and that's why she refused to

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 2>pay him. And Dershowitz is talking about how he's poor

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 2>and he still uses tea bags three or four times.

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also like just being her lawyer probably got

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>him so much business, you know what I mean? Yeah,

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I just I was like a very sensational trial. I remember. Yeah.

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I just hate when rich people are like, oh but

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.919
<v Speaker 2>I still reuse my tea bag and it's like, yeah,

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>but you still hire a mate, you know what I mean.

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you have these symbolic poor behaviors, but you

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.279
<v Speaker 2>don't actually live like a poor person. You're trying to

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 2>relate to us, and it's just not working. I'm sorry,

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 2>And you're not a bad person. If you use a

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 2>tea bag one, it's like, what do you shut up?

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Her West Side three bedroom is filled with old tea bags,

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 2>and she said she does community service, but I don't

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 2>know who knows. She didn't want to go to jail

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 2>because she's like, Harry needs me, he can't.

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Live without me.

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 2>But no one fucking cared. So she served eighteen months

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 2>in jail and two months house arrest.

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Eighteen months in jail at like a white collar probably, yeah,

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>like a Martha Stewart.

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 2>They said that she tried to turn the prison into

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the Hamsley Mansion, and she hired other inmates to make

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 2>her bed and sort mail and do laundry. Oh, from jail,

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 2>she ordered a birthday cake for Harry from the Four

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Seasons while she was in prison, So I gotta love that.

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Ninety seven Harry died and she started to sell off

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>parts of the real estate empire and she went up.

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 2>She went out with like younger men here and there,

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 2>but she never married again.

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Her found love again, but she loved her dog. And

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>her dog's name was Trouble, Trouble, Trouble.

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.879
<v Speaker 2>She learn Cindy Adams is in this episode of ID

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Investigates with Barbara Walters, and Cindy Adams and her were

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>best friends. Cydy Adams Adams columns right, yeah, so they

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 2>were really good friends. And Cindy also stopped talking to

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Leona because she invited Missus Adams to stay in her

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Palm Beach house and then had federal marshals kick her

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:23.320
<v Speaker 2>mother and her out of the house.

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why just to do it.

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm moving the pan Okay, so you know, and there

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 2>are some good things she wanted to push nine eleven.

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 2>She walked to a firehouse gave them five million dollars.

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 2>She gave five million dollars to her.

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Because she still had a ton of money when she

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>got out of jail. It wasn't like a ruined her well,

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>because she still owned all of the papers, Like four millions,

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:48.799
<v Speaker 1>not enough to like repossess things, right, So yeah, she

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>just sold off a bunch of stuff and had time,

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>so she got charitable at nine to eleven.

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nine to eleven brought the best out on her.

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>And well that's what's crazy. Nine to eleven happens in

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 2>this evil bitch gives five million dollars and our president

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 2>celebrated that he had the tallest building in New York.

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Now when nine to eleven happens, So you know who's

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 3>more evil?

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're right about like maybe she is an

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>evil bitch, but like how we view evil bitches towards

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:15.959
<v Speaker 1>evil bastards is not fair.

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like he is our president. He's done worse crat whatever.

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't even keep talking about it. Two thousand and seven,

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 2>she died of heart failure at eighty seven years old,

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 2>and she gave most of her five billion billion with

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 2>a b dollars to a charitable trust. She gave her

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:37.280
<v Speaker 2>two grandkids five million each. Her other two grandkids got nothing. Ah,

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 2>oh my god. Five million out of a billion, though,

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 2>is like feels like nothing. But I think that's nice.

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:44.480
<v Speaker 2>But I think Bill Gates is doing something like that too.

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're only getting ten million, and go live your

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 2>life and.

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Like, hopefully you can make that work. I always heard

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 1>she left the money to her dog. So she left

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 1>twelve million dollars to her dog Trouble, okay, and the

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>news that's what it got sensationalized. And that's the only

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 1>way I knew of her. When I say I didn't

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 1>really know of her as a child. Was the woman

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that gave all her money to super Dog?

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it wasn't. It wasn't all her money. Did she

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 2>give more to the dog than both.

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Her grand children came?

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 5>Bye?

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:09.439
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, But nobody wanted to take care of Trouble

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 2>because she was a bit too.

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 3>Trouble bit everyone and it bits.

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 1>And it was shit. It would shit, wouldn't it shit?

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I read somewhere that it would like

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>shit inside and she would just make people pick it up.

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure, but it had a security guard because

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 2>it had too many death threats.

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>New York is the greatest city in the world. They're

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:31.720
<v Speaker 1>going to kill a dog that has too much money.

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Trouble died in twenty eleven at twelve years old, and

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it wanted it.

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 3>She wanted the dog to be buried with her. They

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't allow it.

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 2>And then Leona has a three million dollar trust to

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 2>keep her mausoleum clean because she hates dust.

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 2>And so that's the story of Leona Hemsley. I'm glad

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.320
<v Speaker 2>she didn't commit suicide and I'll stress.

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.879
<v Speaker 1>But well, speaking of that, I just want to really

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 1>quickly touch on that part of the of the episode.

0:50:56.120 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>That part of the episode, the public suicide like on camerade,

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>is based on a politician from Pennsylvania named our Bud Dwyer.

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this, yes, and he in nineteen eighty seven.

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 1>He was he was like a state senator in Pennsylvania

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and a state treasurer. He was accused of, like you know,

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:18.359
<v Speaker 1>misappropriating funds and he was going to lose his job

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and his family was going to lose their pension, like

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.879
<v Speaker 1>any rights they had to like money that he would

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:27.880
<v Speaker 1>they would get upon his death. So he called a

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 1>press conference the same way as the character in the show.

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>But in his press conference, he gave letters out each

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of his children and to his wife and kept saying like,

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry for what I'm about to do. It was

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like anyone with a brain would have been like, something

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>fucked up is about to happen. And he just kept

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 1>saying I'm sorry, Like and if this is going to

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>bother you or traumatize you, if you have a weak stomach,

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you should leave now. Like he said stuff like that

0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to people like you should never just kept sitting, and

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>people just kept sitting. And then it wasn't until he

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 1>pulled a gun out of a Manila envelope that people

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh wait a minute. Well, he literally in

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 1>his speech said thank you to my wife, I love

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you for making my life so happy, goodbye to all

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.919
<v Speaker 1>of you. Please make sure the sacrifice of my life

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is not in vain. And still no one like rushed

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.240
<v Speaker 1>him or did anything until he pulled out the gun,

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and then he yeah, he shot himself, and his family

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>ended up getting a one point two million dollar payout,

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:22.320
<v Speaker 1>which they never would have gotten if he had lived.

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think he did it. That's why he did it.

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:27.919
<v Speaker 2>That's so sad that he thought that one point two

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 2>million dollars would be better for his family than him.

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really sad.

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And he maintained his innocence the whole time, which is

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>also crazy. How you don't do that, I know, but

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I think I said that he was like, if I'm

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 1>going to if they're going to lose everything, I don't know,

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 1>but he maintained his innocence and said it wasn't like.

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 3>So this is what I have to say.

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 2>How do we know about Leona giving money to a dog,

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 2>but we don't know about I don't know about this

0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 2>guy publicly killing himself in front of press that sat

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 2>there doing nothing as he handed goodbye notes to his family.

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was just because it was like Pennsylvania and

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't a like a glamorous.

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 3>Little I love the eighties on VH. I've never seen

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 3>it once.

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.439
<v Speaker 1>And in the eighties. This isn't really as related because

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't at a press conference. But in the eighties,

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a woman named Christine Chubbick in Sarasota, Florida, where the

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Helmsley's in Castle is. She killed herself on air. But

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that was like a depression thing, and.

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:20.839
<v Speaker 3>She was I think she was kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Depressed too, Yes, but she was trying to make a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. And I saw a movie about that with

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Hall. It was really interesting. Anyway, thank you for

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>telling us all about Leona, the Queen of Me, and

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>thanks for telling us about the public suicide. She is

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a Leona Hemsey is a iconic New York character.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I got a Pomeranian.

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I would name it Leona in honor of her.

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<v Speaker 3>Or Trouble. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Trouble just reminded me that Chevy Chaseable a classic, classic classic.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first guest today is a renowned character actress, a

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:09.360
<v Speaker 1>star of stage and screen and Hollywood royalty. Honestly, if

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you look into her, you've seen her on Grey's Anatomy,

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>on Scandal, and on the best comedy of all time Veep.

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 1>We are so pumped to talk to a net call

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<v Speaker 1>the Bully of Luscious Gray, herself, Kate Burton.

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<v Speaker 2>So this SPU episode, Bully is out of control. You're

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:29.359
<v Speaker 2>amazing in it. Yeah, it's iconic, and we just want

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.759
<v Speaker 2>to know when you saw the script and read that,

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna, you know, publicly commit suicide and slap people

0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 2>and call them fruits.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, how did you feel?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, here's the thing. I mean, you know, as a

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:44.839
<v Speaker 5>New York actor, as you know SBU, Law and Order,

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 5>the Mothership and Criminal Intent. I mean honestly that you

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 5>know you, I mean, I can honestly tell you and

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:57.800
<v Speaker 5>I've been doing this for almost forty years. And those shows,

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 5>those three shows are like annuities. I mean, you know,

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 5>for a New York actor to be in those shows.

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 5>I was in the Mothership five times and playing two

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 5>different characters, and then I did Criminal Intent the second episode,

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.280
<v Speaker 5>and I had never done SVU. So when they present

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean, and I was the hand of the script,

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:22.399
<v Speaker 5>they offered it to me, and they said, we want

0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 5>you to do SVU and I was like, the trifecta

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 5>I've done, so I will have done them all. And

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 5>that is a big thing for a New York actor.

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<v Speaker 5>So and SVU, I mean, SCU is unbelievable. I you know,

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 5>to be honest, I don't watch SVU as much as

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 5>I do The Mothership because it's a little too gritty

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 5>for me sometimes. Although the Mothership it's very gritty towards

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:50.239
<v Speaker 5>towards the end. But sometimes I'm like, oh god.

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:52.759
<v Speaker 3>S you has more living victims, so you see.

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:55.760
<v Speaker 5>Well Special Victims Unit. Yeah, well exactly, it's not about murder,

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 5>it's about sexual assault. It's about all this, you know,

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.319
<v Speaker 5>and so you know, and these are things we watch

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:02.120
<v Speaker 5>right before we go to sleep at night. Right, I

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:04.839
<v Speaker 5>don't generally watch SVU before we go to sleep at night.

0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:08.719
<v Speaker 5>Having said that, yeah, so Bully was you know, I

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 5>for some I'm really nice lady. I you know, I

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 5>have two kids, I'm you know, very happily married. I

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 5>play so many of these mad women.

0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh you do?

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:21.760
<v Speaker 5>I play Oh my god, yeah, well, I mean Ellie's

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:27.040
<v Speaker 5>Gray and graceyaw Me, Sally Langston on Scandal, Sally Langston particularly.

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 5>You know, they're crazy, like, I mean, they're there. I

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 5>play crazy megal ladies. Those are that's my thing, crazy

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 5>megal ladies who kill people.

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:39.560
<v Speaker 1>But are they usually ones that start out sort of sweet?

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Like because at the beginning, Elly, You're like, oh, this

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>woman seems so a nice woman.

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:47.439
<v Speaker 5>I know she's got a problem. But listen, the thing

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 5>about Bully that was so incredible was just you know,

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 5>getting to you know, commit suicide in front of people.

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 5>That's always fun, you know. And that's the thing is that,

0:56:57.480 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, I think that what what Long Order with

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 5>the casting directors and what Dick Wolfe you know, always

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:07.239
<v Speaker 5>did so incredibly is you know, they mined their New

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 5>York actors. They had this plethora they have still this

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 5>plethora of New York acting talent. And you know, those

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 5>early years of the Mothership were like nobody had seen

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 5>New York like so gritty and true and real and

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 5>and it was so I mean, he really did break

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 5>them olded. So you know, then you know, continues on

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 5>and here's and here's SVU. And I think svu staying

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 5>power is that it's you know, ripped from the headlines literally.

0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 5>And I think also marishka Arkite, I mean, I think

0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 5>she is so extraordinarily amazing as that as that woman,

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 5>and she, you know, to watch this great female protagonist

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:59.080
<v Speaker 5>got us through these terrible stories over yeah, you know,

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 5>and I have tendency to say yes to everything, so

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:04.840
<v Speaker 5>that's sometimes not a good thing. But I will tell you,

0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 5>like I did, when you do anything to do with

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:11.320
<v Speaker 5>law and order, you always know, even if it's the

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:13.200
<v Speaker 5>grittiest stuff in the world, it's still going to be

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:14.000
<v Speaker 5>a classy.

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Another thing that was so great about that character, and

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you had any say in air collaboration,

0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 2>was the wardrobe.

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.160
<v Speaker 3>The hair and makeup was so good.

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 5>Well, wardrobe on lawn orders in general are all. I mean,

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 5>it's they have the well, you know, they have costume

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 5>designers that have experienced in theater, in film, because you know,

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:37.440
<v Speaker 5>New York is a one. You know, everything happens in

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 5>New York, you know, if in terms of all the

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 5>different media. Yeah, and so you know the costume. You know,

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 5>I've always had a costumes. My only sadness is that

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 5>I haven't been able to keep any of them because

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 5>they need to keep them there for other guest stars

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:56.680
<v Speaker 5>to come in and be glamorous.

0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, that's with that point in Bully where

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to push through the crowd that saw like

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the mob that's coming after you, and you're wearing like

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>dark glasses and like a sort of a hooded scarp

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're like out of my way. Like it's like

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:13.080
<v Speaker 1>just it's well, can I say you know this podcast,

0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>we sort of talk about the episode and the true

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 1>situation or crime that was based on so the episode

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 1>what your character I think was loosely probably based on

0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Leona Helmsley.

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh you know, I didn't even totally know.

0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:28.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love that.

0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:30.919
<v Speaker 5>You know that you're telling me this years later.

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>She was this, you know, incredibly mean.

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 5>And remember those advertisements.

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:39.080
<v Speaker 1>To your dog Your character left everything to her dogs.

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like very similar.

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.760
<v Speaker 5>Please you have such memories of this episode. Thank you

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:47.960
<v Speaker 5>for reminding me. Yes, well, you know those advertisements that

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 5>you used to see in your times with like the

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 5>Queen is in her palace. Yes, you know, there she

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:55.880
<v Speaker 5>be Leona Halmsley. I mean, Leona Helmsley is like a

0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:59.160
<v Speaker 5>character out of a cartoon. I mean, you can't even

0:59:59.200 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 5>make stuff up.

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<v Speaker 2>It also is nice to hear that you're probably amazing

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<v Speaker 2>to work with, considering Shonda keeps using you in the

1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:08.080
<v Speaker 2>law and order world, keeps using you, and that's like

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<v Speaker 2>pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you. Well, I do love working with all

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:13.440
<v Speaker 5>those folks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, the key is heart. One of the hardest things

1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 5>about being an actor, and especially of my age group,

1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 5>is that you you know, we came from sort of

1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:27.480
<v Speaker 5>one of the thrills for me, to be honest, is

1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 5>I really thought by my mid forties i'd be done.

1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:32.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean I really thought, you know, when I was

1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 5>first coming out of Yale twenty I was twenty four,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I thought, Okay, well I kind of got

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:41.120
<v Speaker 5>twenty years and here we are and I'm sixty three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and the reality is thank you. And the reality is

1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:47.600
<v Speaker 5>is that I'm still working. My great friends Steporah Monk

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:50.200
<v Speaker 5>and Christine Nilsen, who are even a little bit older

1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:53.920
<v Speaker 5>than me, They're constantly working. And so the notion of

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<v Speaker 5>there are interesting roles for women who are older.

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<v Speaker 4>How great.

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<v Speaker 5>It's amazing, you know. And I moved to LA when

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:03.120
<v Speaker 5>I was forty nine, and I always say what my

1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:06.040
<v Speaker 5>age is because I'm like, why not? And I have

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<v Speaker 5>had the most interesting parts, you know, Ella, I came with,

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<v Speaker 5>I grived with Ellis Gray, Sally Langston, Senator Barbara hallows

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<v Speaker 5>En VP.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Aunt Marie, I can't believe that just hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like our favorite. I mean, I can't the favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>That's our favorite chart.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I don't go on television.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, she's a genius, and so is Armando u Nucci

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<v Speaker 5>so and so is every single person on that s

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<v Speaker 5>want to say, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfectly cast every and every detail of every character.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, funny, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean Tony Hell, Tony Hall. I mean even in the

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<v Speaker 5>read through for the pilot, Tony Hale, I remember just

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<v Speaker 5>sitting at the table just like will hold me back?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, and you know, But the thing is is

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm so I feel so blessed that I've gotten

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<v Speaker 5>to play all these different, really interesting parts.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since you have been in all the law and

1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:03.040
<v Speaker 2>order worlds, we were wondering if you needed the help

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<v Speaker 2>of detectives, which which detectives.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you go to?

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<v Speaker 1>Original Criminal Intent or SV you.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I have to say, well, Mrshka Hargate is pretty

1:02:13.800 --> 1:02:14.320
<v Speaker 5>hard to beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 5>I would if I could combine them, I would go

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<v Speaker 5>to Marishka Hargate and Christopher Notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is appropriate to ask or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but we just if you have an Elizabeth Taylor tail

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<v Speaker 2>or a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Elizabeth Taylor's stepdaughter.

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<v Speaker 5>You're asking me this with two but it's just fair.

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<v Speaker 5>But she was a dream. I love her so much.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I love her personally. We always got along great.

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<v Speaker 5>She was always incredibly dear and sweet and just really great.

1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:48.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean incredible sense of humor. She was amazing, and

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, honestly, you know, I mean one

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<v Speaker 5>of the sort of I actually told the story a

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<v Speaker 5>few times. But you know, she had these jewels that

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<v Speaker 5>she really really loved, and I mean they were grout.

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<v Speaker 5>There were very fancy jewels, and one of them my

1:03:03.800 --> 1:03:05.840
<v Speaker 5>favorite thing that she ever had. There were a couple

1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:08.680
<v Speaker 5>of things, but one of them was this pearl. It

1:03:08.720 --> 1:03:12.440
<v Speaker 5>was a pearl, beautiful pearl, sort of teardrop shape, but

1:03:12.720 --> 1:03:16.160
<v Speaker 5>a huge like this size tear drop, very large, and

1:03:16.240 --> 1:03:22.720
<v Speaker 5>it was actually an unbelievable had an unbelievable history because

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<v Speaker 5>you can see this pearl in the hole mind portrait

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<v Speaker 5>of Mary Bloody Mary Mary Tudor, who is the daughter

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<v Speaker 5>of Henry Dight, who became the first of his children

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<v Speaker 5>to sit on the throne of England. You see it

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<v Speaker 5>in the picture. It's in the portrait. So that's how

1:03:42.760 --> 1:03:45.840
<v Speaker 5>old pearl is. Anyway, so the pearl had gotten missing,

1:03:47.240 --> 1:03:50.200
<v Speaker 5>couldn't find the pearl, and everybody was running around the

1:03:50.240 --> 1:03:51.960
<v Speaker 5>house looking for the pearl, and she had washed She

1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:56.120
<v Speaker 5>liked to wash her jewels and baby ship, so she'd

1:03:56.240 --> 1:03:58.840
<v Speaker 5>washed the pearl and somehow the pearl, like I don't

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<v Speaker 5>do you even know? I mean, this is the this

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<v Speaker 5>sitting on the side of the sink, sitting in a dish.

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<v Speaker 5>Who the hell knows. Somehow the dog got hold of

1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:09.000
<v Speaker 5>the pearl, and we're running around the dog, and the

1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:10.960
<v Speaker 5>dog is sitting in the middle of the room like

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<v Speaker 5>just chewing on something. Somehow somebody stopped and went, wait

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<v Speaker 5>a minute, and looked down at this little fluffy dog

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<v Speaker 5>so cute, going like chewing and it had the pearl.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much for taking the time out

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<v Speaker 1>of your schedule, because I know you seem very busy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, pandemic.

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<v Speaker 5>You're so welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>That was thrilling. Oh my god, I'm like buzzed from

1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:41.919
<v Speaker 1>talking to Cape Burton. Yeah, she loves acting. She's good

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<v Speaker 1>at it. She's been in everything you've ever watched. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone can say they've never seen this

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<v Speaker 1>woman on their screen. I can't eve we've forgot VP.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I must have just zipped over that in

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<v Speaker 1>her IMDb or something. I don't know how I miss that,

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<v Speaker 1>but like iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>What a career, and that she's been in all the

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<v Speaker 2>law and order universes, and she loves them Risca.

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<v Speaker 3>As much as we love Marisa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's nice to know that even if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a stepmom's Elizabeth Taylor, you will be blinded by Mariska

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<v Speaker 2>har charm, beauty work.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to call Marishka in the event of a problem. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's her decision. And yeah, so post mortem, Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do let's break it down. I mean, what do we

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<v Speaker 1>learn from balacious grape?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't let your boss slap you take him to court, right,

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<v Speaker 2>have a lawsuit, Tape stuff. Actually we learn if you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting abused at work, take record, record it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't end up dead, right, but record it. Get a

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<v Speaker 1>good lawyer. Yeah. I have a friend who actually just

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<v Speaker 1>had a very high profile lawsuit against like a creep

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<v Speaker 1>o like billionaire boss, and she recorded stuff and that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think how she eventually brought him down. Yeats to record.

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<v Speaker 2>So record before you quit and press charges. Yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. Don't pour alcohol in your butt, don't butt chug.

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<v Speaker 1>Don'tchug even if you're trying to have if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get your opera singer mom drunk, like put her

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<v Speaker 1>in a home. I think there's got even edible. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>find another addiction. There's gonna be another way.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, don't butt chug. Also, don't trust your coworkers.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna rat you. Also, there's cameras everywhere. Don't steal

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<v Speaker 2>your grandfather's car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and try to run over one of your coworkers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those are all the lessons.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I was gonna say, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to come in suicide, do it with a crowd, but

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that, don't say that, none of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a good one. This was a great episode,

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<v Speaker 1>a great interview. I mean, the crime is just Leona

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<v Speaker 1>do yourself a favor and looking more into Leona Helmsley.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a true, like Kate said, like a comic book character,

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<v Speaker 1>like comic book villain. Yeah, cartoon I guess she said.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we also learned don't make villains like that

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<v Speaker 1>the president.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we learned that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just right this episode, but I mean I stay with

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<v Speaker 1>her just because she was mortal enemies with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I'd like to say, if there's a press conference

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<v Speaker 2>and someone is reading suicide notes and apologizing to their family, stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go for that go for that have the gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just wait it out as they're fully confessing what's

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<v Speaker 1>about to Yes, so I think you know that's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you see someone that's on the on the brink,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe help them out. Don't just watch for a story. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and is less just grape a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it doesn't work somewhere where people think that,

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<v Speaker 2>like they say that your family, Yeah, don't let yeah

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<v Speaker 2>pay your taxes, babies pay your taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't leave all your money to your dog. That's

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<v Speaker 1>honestly the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Not all

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<v Speaker 1>she only left twelve million, all right, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 3>More than her kids twelve million.

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<v Speaker 1>But the dog has like a ten year life expectancy

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<v Speaker 1>after your death. Probably what that happens to the money?

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<v Speaker 1>Who does the dog bequeath the money.

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<v Speaker 3>To the dog's eating?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Wagoo? Is that how you're saying? Yeah, waggoo bee every day?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Rachel Ray dog food? What's doesn't Rachel Ray have

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<v Speaker 1>a dog food?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Which is weird. Someone has a joke about this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I looked at you so weird, because the

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<v Speaker 1>joke is like, you're a chef and you're coming out

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<v Speaker 1>with dog food. What let's say about you? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Mateo If anyone cares about follow Mateo Lane

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagrams. And he actually didn't really drink. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he butt chunks though. We got to talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to come on the pod. Okay, So we

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<v Speaker 1>are here as always inspired by Murushka Hargatea, but she

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<v Speaker 1>also does a lot of charity work. She has her

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<v Speaker 1>Joyful Heart Foundation, and we would like to use our platform,

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<v Speaker 1>however small it may be, to spread awareness on certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>So this segment is going to be at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of every episode. It's called what would Sister Peg Do?

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to the nun and savior of many runaway girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Sister Peg an amazing recurring character r I P. And

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<v Speaker 1>So at the every end of every episode, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to call out a resource or an organization where you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to learn more about or contribute to a

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<v Speaker 1>specific issue that we touched upon in this episode. So

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<v Speaker 1>for today's episode, if you would like more information on

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<v Speaker 1>workplace bullying, please go to workplace bullying dot org where

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<v Speaker 1>you can get a lot of resources on how to

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<v Speaker 1>handle that.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you'd like to watch along with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week's episode, we're going to be covering Damaged, one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorites of all time. Season four, episode eleven.

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