WEBVTT - Tiana Major9 - Cornmeal & Cadence

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest Award Grammy Award nominated songwriter and recording artists

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<v Speaker 1>Tiana Major nine is in the building. How are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm will thanks, how are you goody? I love your music,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, I love all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I love your share.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. And so today is very special for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned this because out of one hundred, over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty episodes, this dish has finally made

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<v Speaker 1>it to the show, and so I was very happy

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<v Speaker 1>when it came across our email. You could go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and tell our listeners our watches what you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>me eating today?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we are going to make corn mill porridge classic,

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<v Speaker 2>a staple and something very close to my heart. And

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you told me it was hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, this is if I had to do Eating

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<v Speaker 1>While Broke and I was on the other side, this

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<v Speaker 1>would have been my dish. So yes, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>like I think this is a staple in the Jamaican house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, this will keep you full for two days straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And so I grew up on it. Very I

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<v Speaker 1>was very small. I never paid attention, but my mom

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<v Speaker 1>would make it in the kitchen. I just knew how

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<v Speaker 1>to eat it the top to the bottom. But you

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna go ahead and tell us how to make

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<v Speaker 1>it and what the ingredients are.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So first we have cornmeal porridge. This is like

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<v Speaker 2>the grains, it's quiet, this is fine. Yes, the fine

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<v Speaker 2>corn sorry, corn mill, yes, no cornride, Yes, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the fine grain corn mill. We have the brown sugar

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<v Speaker 2>hair Bailieve. I've been doing this recently, and like I've

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<v Speaker 2>been posting on my Instagram and showing people like me

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<v Speaker 2>cooking because I love doing that, and a few people

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<v Speaker 2>have been like bay leaf, but I'm sorry the real

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<v Speaker 2>ones though.

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<v Speaker 1>You add a little bit of bay leaf in it

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<v Speaker 1>and you could really taste the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>You can, I personally can, but yeah, bay leaf is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Cinema sticks essential, nutmeg essential. We have some coconut milk.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be car meal porridge. About this, and then

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<v Speaker 2>content smelk for some extra sweetness and flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, so I'm excited. Okay. And this guy's this

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<v Speaker 1>dish was beyond extremely affordable. So go ahead, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what how do we make it okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So first I have another bowl here. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>add the corn meal to this bowl. This is actually

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<v Speaker 2>quite a lot of corn meal. It's just for me

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<v Speaker 2>and you. Yeah, I think I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Use some of the some of our guests may want

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<v Speaker 1>to try.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do three of this corn mill. Put

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<v Speaker 2>the cormell on the bowl. He add some water, a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of water.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your accent. I was secretly hoping you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>like a Jamaican accent, but I was like, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, the overseas just trumpeding, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in England, so.

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<v Speaker 1>So your parents didn't have any.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, my mom has something. She has an accent.

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<v Speaker 2>It's her own like black British Jamaican accent because she's

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<v Speaker 2>like she was first generation, so she has that. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad was born in Jamaica, but he came over to

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<v Speaker 2>England when he was sixteen. But some reason, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have a Jamaican accent, which is that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>He's quite awesome. He's been around a long time. Ye basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just stirring up the porridge with the water, just

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that there's no lamps I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>turn this on.

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<v Speaker 1>And here I thought the way to get the no

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<v Speaker 1>lumps was to do it over the stove. You pre

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you add a little bit of water to another

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<v Speaker 2>bar so you can kind of like mix it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna add more water. Dropped the lid in there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad doesn't have an accent. But we just went

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<v Speaker 2>back to Jamaica and he's he's he was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it back.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Jamaica, like my mom was very like

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<v Speaker 1>almost ashamed of her like pats her accent, and so

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<v Speaker 1>she like the only time we hear pastball or Agamaican

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<v Speaker 1>accent is when she's mad, right, then it comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're just scared of death.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't know. My dad was telling me

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<v Speaker 2>that when he went to school. When he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to school, he had like he was living with this

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<v Speaker 2>lady and she was like really not encouraging him to

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<v Speaker 2>speak in his accent. So I think he lost it

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<v Speaker 2>when he was even in Jamaica, which it is quite crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. He was bringing it back womens

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<v Speaker 2>on Women's on holiday, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're not able to pick it up me

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I can do it. I just won't

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<v Speaker 2>do it until I'm like super confident in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Until your words super confident. You can't speak pet I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand it, but I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm working on it. I'm figuring it all out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, So basically, so you're working out the lumps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I added water to the part and now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to kind of pour this corn meal water mixture

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<v Speaker 2>in here whilst stirring.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is low heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, am I recording this to be recording?

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<v Speaker 1>This is it recording our praise? Recording?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Check?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it recording? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Press it? Okay? Oh yes, recording now? Yes, okay, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just stirring, like the cornmeal mixture into the water.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cold water first as well. That ensures that there's

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<v Speaker 2>no lumps in here. I'm gonna keep going because you said.

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<v Speaker 1>Because nobody likes the lumps. Just in case you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>had ports, you do not like the lumps. No, the

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<v Speaker 1>lumps are terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will start it again. But you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>eat my, you just have to figure it out. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to figure it out. But yeah, this is spashing

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but you just basically start in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's basically going to get thicker, and then

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<v Speaker 2>that's when you add all the other stuff. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>really really simple.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, are you going to scrape

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<v Speaker 1>the other stuff in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the water is still cold, so it won't. It won't.

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<v Speaker 1>So as long as the water is cold, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>you get the lumps out, not when it's hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, God, it will be harder to get the lumps

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<v Speaker 2>out when it's hot. It would be better to do

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<v Speaker 2>it with a whisk. But yes, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got this. Pretend you're actually eating while broke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have limited You weren't independent artists, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, So take me back to what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on during the Cormea Porridge days.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I was living with my mom in East Ham.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from East London, m H. And we were it

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<v Speaker 2>was me, my mom, my sister, and my older brother.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad was in my life, but we didn't live together.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't together, but yeah, we were. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>the four of us in the house and my mom

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<v Speaker 2>would be working and trying to make do. I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>going to like an after school club because she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be able to come back in time to pick me up,

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<v Speaker 2>so they would just pick me up from school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we were just funking it out in east Ham,

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<v Speaker 2>East London.

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<v Speaker 1>So single mom essentially, yes, literally three kids, Yeah I had,

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two older brothers and one sister, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's had four, four of us. But yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 2>three of us.

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<v Speaker 1>In the house, one boy, two three girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Usaid no two boys twirls yeah, okay perfect?

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<v Speaker 1>And then was there a lot of music in the house?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of music my mom. I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>going to church, come to Costal Church Kojik, and my

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<v Speaker 2>mom would always be playing gospel. She'd be in like

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<v Speaker 2>praise and worship. She'd be leading praise and worship. Also

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<v Speaker 2>like a Sunday school teacher as well, so there would.

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<v Speaker 1>Be so you were like a lot of church.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, a lot of church. It was school after

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<v Speaker 2>what was it drama school? And then church. That was

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<v Speaker 2>all I did for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow did she know? When? At what point did she

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<v Speaker 1>or you realize that you had a voice of gold?

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<v Speaker 2>I think around five that's when she started going back

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<v Speaker 2>to church actually, and I just I was just really

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated by music. I really loved music. And she was

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<v Speaker 2>also going to vocal lessons on the side to like

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<v Speaker 2>in the evening she was doing like vocal lessons, she

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<v Speaker 2>would come back and teach me the songs and like

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<v Speaker 2>teach me the stuff that she was learning in those lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, around five, Okay, now I know I can't sing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some people like they could humme a knowe,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just know, like God.

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<v Speaker 2>Just blessed you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like you're in the category of the

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<v Speaker 1>God just center voice your way. But it is nice

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that you worked on it. Absolutely absolutely, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does seem very like God given.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I not wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't think you're wrong. I just I

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<v Speaker 2>think that with anybody, you do need to rehearse. Like

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<v Speaker 2>from when I was younger, if I listened to old

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<v Speaker 2>videos or watch old videos of me singing when I

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<v Speaker 2>was twelve, compared to nowists I can hear the rehearsal,

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear the work. I'm so glad I stuck

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<v Speaker 2>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, why was your mom taking these music lessons?

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<v Speaker 1>Does she want to pursue it? Professionally.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think he was really Mom's really

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<v Speaker 2>into like extracurriculous stuff, like even now she goes to

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<v Speaker 2>like she's joined like a few fitter schools and like

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<v Speaker 2>acting classes and just do stuff on the side. So

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<v Speaker 2>she just likes to just be active. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>something that she did with her sisters as well. They

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<v Speaker 2>all went, so it was like a fun thing. She

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<v Speaker 2>loves to sing, so okay, it was just yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a full career. I'm sure, yeah, as far

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<v Speaker 2>as I know, but it was, yeah, just to have

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<v Speaker 2>a little something to do in the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're you're in the church, you're singing five

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<v Speaker 1>are you singing further church? At their point or starting?

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying my hardest too. I was really really

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<v Speaker 2>trying my hardest too. I was trying to like befriend

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<v Speaker 2>the pastor's wife, like just like hey, like you tease

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<v Speaker 2>be able to sing, or like, can I sing next week?

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<v Speaker 1>Like just as a young, young, young l Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was like just really just trying to sing

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<v Speaker 2>wherever I can. And then I would go to like

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<v Speaker 2>youth conventions and just asks to sing and Christmas time

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like the children would like sing a

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<v Speaker 2>song or showcase talent or whatever. I would always be singing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, okay. And so you're your mom one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent embraced this.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of you, Yes, one hundred she at what point

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<v Speaker 2>she would now I was going to say, she really

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<v Speaker 2>really encouraged it, like she was like my aunties used

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<v Speaker 2>to call her stage mom, which is so funny. She

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<v Speaker 2>was really really trying would be to be a star,

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<v Speaker 2>like she was really trying her hardnest.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was no like, hey, mam, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue this one hundred percent, and she was She was

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<v Speaker 1>like hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, she was with it one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how did your dad feel about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Him too? He was really, there's a few lumps in him,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to take them out.

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<v Speaker 1>He was funny because I I what you're taking out

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<v Speaker 1>these lumps is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nah, I'm sorry. We already spoke about having lumps

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<v Speaker 2>in him. Were like, yeah, let me take him out.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad was with it too, He was very encouraging,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I just really really tried to back me

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<v Speaker 2>financially too. I told you that they didn't live together,

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<v Speaker 2>but my dad would try and invest anyway he can,

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<v Speaker 2>like into your music career. Yeah, music and just dance

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<v Speaker 2>and all those other things.

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<v Speaker 1>And your parents get along perfectly fine or.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah even to this day, like it's I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship, but they Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because they get along so fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it's my dad is still very much like

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<v Speaker 2>part of the family, and like, yeah, they co parent,

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<v Speaker 2>they co parent really really well. It's really inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So who were your inspirations early.

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<v Speaker 2>On, early on Beyonce. Definitely loved Beyonce early early, early,

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<v Speaker 2>early on. Yeah, early on, Brandy, Brandy. My mum also

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<v Speaker 2>loved Brandy, so that was a given. Who else would

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<v Speaker 2>I say? I would say Gabrielle. She's like a uk Difa,

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie La Jamiliar sorry Estelle. So many people, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of black birds that were like really doing the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your sound is like it reminds me of old

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<v Speaker 1>school R and B, like you know, yeah, it's like classic.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know the right words to

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<v Speaker 1>describe it. But I was jamming with Trevor Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>were both like, now do you want to hum us

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<v Speaker 1>a little something?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me take you sound. I wonder if oh what

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<v Speaker 2>I have.

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<v Speaker 1>M He said, it sounds beautiful, it sounds it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>God given.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. This is getting really thick now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's looking like it's yeah, very thick.

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<v Speaker 2>You want water?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I'm wondering when you had the coconut milk.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually, you're right, I should do that now because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's starting to look like remember when I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if your mom used to make these. They're like cornmeal

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<v Speaker 1>porridge and they had the raisins in it and they

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<v Speaker 1>were thick, and I used to hate those things.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds to make it insane, cornmeal porridge, raisins something.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it was like this thick. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was like some kind of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>hard to describe, but I wouldn't eat it. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>one dish if someone brought out the show, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, okay, Oh you had a lot of coconut

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<v Speaker 1>milk to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think sometimes it depends on the day. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, some passion, but you know how I

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<v Speaker 2>started off, Yeah, corn milk and the water. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>do cocon coconut milk, cold milk, and then do it like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, but you know it's gonna taste good.

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<v Speaker 2>Though I'm excited. I don't have this in a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you eat this on the regular?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just, I just this is a staple and

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<v Speaker 2>it's really easy to make. So yeah, I keep this in.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep calling me on the pantry. Definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Now take me back to your career. So you're at

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<v Speaker 1>what point in your career do you start to see

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<v Speaker 1>like a little bit of a pickup oh, in your

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<v Speaker 1>pursuit of music career.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've had a few points. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>most pivotal one was when I was like fourteen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I entered the competition which was like Newam's Got Talent.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's spin off, like a local competition that

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<v Speaker 2>was like based on Britain's Got Talent. And I want it, really,

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<v Speaker 2>I want it, and I want an iPod, which was

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<v Speaker 2>really cute, and I don't know, it just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>solidified that, oh, I could do this and people could

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<v Speaker 2>people see me and people hear me, and I could

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<v Speaker 2>win iPods. So that was a real point in my

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<v Speaker 2>turning point in my career and my life. Another one

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<v Speaker 2>was when I got signed to Motown.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big deal. Yeah, it's a big moment.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a really big moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, it was like how did that come about?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that come about? Many ways? So my A

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<v Speaker 2>and R at Motown, Lindsay Lanier, she she was like

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<v Speaker 2>connecting with this producer that I worked with. His name Progression,

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<v Speaker 2>amazing guy. I've worked with him since I was twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>But she connected with him and I think he showed

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<v Speaker 2>her my music. Do you want me to tell them? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, ahead, So after I.

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<v Speaker 2>Put the coconut milk in, study it around, it's starting to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get really thick, starting the pup and it's scared it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna burn her, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, it's not gonna burn. And then I'm putting

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<v Speaker 2>nutmeke in now, and then I'm gonna add the cinema

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<v Speaker 2>stix just like for some spice.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're just gonna add it and just leave it

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<v Speaker 1>in there, just to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I had a little bit of water. How thicks

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<v Speaker 2>do you like your home average?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that that are a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>lighter because you know it's gonna get a little thick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's what I would saying, I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is sometimes with Cormo, it's like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind yeah, yeah, I think i'd encourage you to put

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>He's okay, you add cold water, so it as we said,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't lump up. Okay too much? Okay, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what was she saying?

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about your deal with Moltown.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so Lindsay met up with Progression, who's an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible producer, and she was just he was just showing

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<v Speaker 2>her his music and we had a lot of songs

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<v Speaker 2>together and from what I heard, she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>who's this artist? And there was just like a a hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a hunt, but like she just really wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>find out who I was. And that's how it came about.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we stayed in contact. I had a headline

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<v Speaker 2>show in my very first headline show in London twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, after that she signed me and we were

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<v Speaker 2>together as a team up until twenty twenty two. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't that long.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait nineteen, that's but it was also during COVID too, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. That was also like kind of difficult. But

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<v Speaker 1>was it cool because you had to record during that

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<v Speaker 1>time or were you recording during that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was trying to do as much as I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I was working on my project, my EP at home,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had recorded a lot of the vocals already,

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<v Speaker 2>So like when COVID hit, it was just about like

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<v Speaker 2>putting the project together and figuring out the market in

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<v Speaker 2>and the visuals and stuff like that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, what were some of like the painful lessons

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<v Speaker 1>and the good lessons you learned during their whole experience?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, painful lessons no one owes you anything at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And a good lesson is it's kind of similar. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like people come and go, but right people will stay,

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<v Speaker 2>and like it's also good to meet loads of people

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<v Speaker 2>at like it's also good wait hold on, let me

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<v Speaker 2>get let me get this, let me get this together.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think I met some really really good people,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the relationship kind of like paused or like

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<v Speaker 2>we're not like together together anymore. It still was. We

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<v Speaker 2>still had a great time, So I couldn't look back

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<v Speaker 2>at those times and be like, you know what, it

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<v Speaker 2>was still we still had a great time, made so

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<v Speaker 2>many great memories and yeah, just hit so many goals

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<v Speaker 2>at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but for one of the lessons to be

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<v Speaker 1>like no one owes you anything. What experience triggered that

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<v Speaker 1>thought to be a priority of like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>painful lessons.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when when it was like twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>I just came off of tour Jasmine Sullivan and I

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<v Speaker 2>came back and I wasn't able to get through to

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<v Speaker 2>my label, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't get him on the phone or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get them. You know, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like typical industry stuff though.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I was gobbed. I was absolutely gobsmacked. I'm putting

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<v Speaker 2>in the cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you trying to reach out to them for?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a foul up? Like what's the next way?

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<v Speaker 2>What we're doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't get him on the phone?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think there was there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things happening at the time in the label, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like there wasn't really anybody in the label

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<v Speaker 2>to chat to. It was like they were ignoring me.

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<v Speaker 2>It just wasn't anybody left.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, like like you called it, it was almost like a Doe.

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<v Speaker 2>Do do yeah kind of. I mean as far yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I know, it was just like just

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<v Speaker 2>just for the recognize that.

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<v Speaker 1>I put a little nutmeg, and she dropped like one

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<v Speaker 1>bay leaf in there. Yeah, and I didn't. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>just so we all know what we're doing when we

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<v Speaker 1>go home and try to imitate this. And she dropped

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<v Speaker 1>one cinnamon stick in there. That's it. So don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>get don't get froggy in the kitchen with those bay

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<v Speaker 1>leaves and the cinnamon.

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<v Speaker 2>St Wait, do we have a lid?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, we don't. We got a bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, why do you need a lit? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, it smells okay, Oh my god. But you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't add any brown sugar yet.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you didn't add any condensed.

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<v Speaker 2>Mil No the sweetness. You add that the end.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can smell.

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<v Speaker 2>It smells perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>It smells like cormells. Okay, I'm excited. I haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>this dish in like twenty years, probably more so.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's because you've been having them ready.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because that never made it to my belly. Trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>she's making fun of my instinct cormeal is don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>do it, guys.

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 2>That's also eat It's okay, but it never had you

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<v Speaker 2>said you too.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't come out. It's just it's for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 2>It's disgusting. But I mean, if you just want it's

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<v Speaker 2>something quick, then yes forever.

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<v Speaker 1>This looks so good and so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to like bubble a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're calling your motown, you're calling all town, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not answering. You just get off to the road

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<v Speaker 1>with Jazzmine Sullivan elated you've arrived. I would imagine like

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<v Speaker 1>torn with Jazzmine Sullivant is like like I'm doing the

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<v Speaker 1>thing there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was definitely like anxious that whole time because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it was just very new and like I've

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<v Speaker 2>never been on tour before and there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of moving parts. But yeah, I was I was happy

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 2>that I was on tour. I wanted to come back

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<v Speaker 2>and just figure it all out. But yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't we wasn't able to like get through. We

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't actually know what was happening, but my manage, me

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 2>and my manager at the time just decided to just

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<v Speaker 2>keep going and just like just keep taking opportunities. I

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<v Speaker 2>supported Adele shortly after, which was great.

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<v Speaker 1>You were supported Adele support. What does that look like?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? She had a show in Okay, this is enough.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a show in London, two shows. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a British summertime festival and yeah it was. She just

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<v Speaker 2>headlined the whole festival. She had myself, Mahalia, Gabrielle and

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 2>that was it. We just supported her over two days

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 2>in the park and it was iconic. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>put this, Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's gonna fit. Is it gonna fit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Wow? Okay, I want to turn it all the

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<v Speaker 2>way down and that will just cook.

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<v Speaker 1>How much longer?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we could do like ten fifteen minutes, as.

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<v Speaker 1>Long as it doesn't burn the But no, I'm trusting you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the chef, and I am dying to eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're good with no lumps.

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<v Speaker 2>We're good. No, there's no lumps in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I saw you fish them out. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>so you're to the Motown after Jasmine, your aunt tour

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<v Speaker 1>with Adele, You're doing shows with Adele again. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you would feel, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>be like I've arrived kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure how to feel. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt really good because it was Adele and she

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 2>had supported me like previously. When my EP came out,

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 2>she was one of the first people to post about it,

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't know how she found this,

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 2>but it really aligned and yeah, I was I had

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 2>a great time. That was a great show. I didn't

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>get to meet her though, but it was just.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going. I was gonna say, when

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you're traveling with these artists art is there any room

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>for like, hey, can you be my mentor ish.

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Or I mean, they like Judson Sullivan and Adele are

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 2>the huge divas, so I think when I was like

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 2>performing alongside them, there wasn't really much time for that anyway.

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I would have loved to done that if

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 2>there was time, but there wasn't really much time to

0:24:57.880 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 2>do that. And when I was supporting Jadsmine as well,

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 2>it was you're in like COVID and lockdown, so there

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>was very strict rules and sixteen yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 2>and then you had the mask was it was very

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 2>strict in that way. So yeah, we even had to

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 2>stop at one point because she got sick unfortunately, and

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 2>then we had to Yeah, we had to pause and

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>then come back like maybe like a week or two later. Yeah,

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>it was strict at that time.

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Who was handling your tour bookings? Is it your manager,

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>is it the label?

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it was a bit of everybody. But I

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 2>had an agent and my manager at this time as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're like learning this industry while pursuing music

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>because you're the artist, but you're also learning the business. Yes,

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and so you get off the tours. At what point

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to reroute or separate from Motown Because

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing there's a separation in here, right.

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I think at this time it's not necessarily a separation.

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it's more. Yeah, it was definitely more. I

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 2>was in the UK a lot more, and at that

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>time there was Motown UK and we're just figuring out

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 2>figuring out Motown UK. It was brand new. So I

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>had a team at Motown UK and they were just

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 2>like trying to get me opportunity, trying to get me

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>like out there in London a little bit more. So.

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:16.120
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that wasn't like the departure. That was more

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 2>like a pivot of teams when they were a little

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 2>bit more responsible for the things that I was doing

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 2>in London.

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<v Speaker 1>So all your touring was in the UK.

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, Janeine Sullivan was across America. Adele was in London,

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, everything in between that time was in London.

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, And then what kind of industry insights

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:42.479
<v Speaker 1>did you learn from that whole chapter?

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 2>H Visibility Definitely keep going and just like even if

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>there isn't like music ready at that time, just keep going,

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 2>just keep being visible, like yeah, marketing, shutting yourself out there. Absolutely,

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.920
<v Speaker 2>that was a big thing because I think I got

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 2>really I got really sad after the tour because it

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 2>was like it was a lot, it was a lot.

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I also just got diagnosed with ADHD after the tour

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 2>as well. Yeah twenty seven.

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 1>This was a random diagnosis.

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>No no, no, I went for it myself, private dignosis.

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was like it was a whole like.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>What made you sit look into that because I think.

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>It was not I think I keep saying. I think

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 2>it was something that I've always like had a feeling of,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>like an inkling of things were a little bit harder

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>for me to.

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Like concentrate content.

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Concentrate like this content is focused, it's comprehend so like

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>you might have to say something a little bit a

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 2>few more times for me to really understand. Yeah, it's

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 2>like for me to understand, for me to understand, but yeah,

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>it's always been something that I've just.

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Felt and then one day you were like, that's it,

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>We're going to solve the problem.

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Man, I was like, either I'm really stupid or

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 2>there's something going on. And it was like I was like, Okay,

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm relieved. Yeah I'm not smart.

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not is it ADHD or eighty adhd? ADHD? I

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>thought it was like when you can't sit still.

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I have inattentive ADHD, which means like I

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>could be looking at you. You can come like taking in

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying. I'm like, I don't know what's going

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 2>on kind of thing. Really.

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So what do they do the treat that? Is

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>it riddling?

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Huh?

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Is it riddling? Isn't that like a drug that they

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>give you if you have ADHD?

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Id I know?

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. No, I'm like, do they do

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>they say, Okay, now that you have this, this is

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>what you have to do.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can have medication if that's what you want,

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 2>but you don't have to.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Have medic I feel like you're not You're not on medication. Okay,

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>so you are, so they gave you something.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did private so I had that option. But

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 2>it's not like I don't need it every day. It's

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>only when I need to really lock in and focus.

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.719
<v Speaker 1>So, like, if you're in the studio for like twenty

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>four hours, is that.

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I would never be in a tent.

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would just assume that artists are

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>in the studio locked in, you know, you hearing writing

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and music sessions.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I get too distracted. I can't be in

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the study for twenty four hours. But sometimes it depends

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 2>if it really depends on the day. I'm like, I

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>need I need that extra bit of like focus on

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 2>location to do stuff.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>So what's in a day in the life of Tiana?

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, day in the life, Day in the life. Recently

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>it's been it's different, it's shifted. But day in the

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>life is a wake up. I walk my dogs plural, Yeah,

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 2>two dogs. I had one, but then my girlfriend has

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>another dog. She has a dog, so now we have too. Yeah,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>walk my dogs, come back, feed them, feed myself. I

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>just moved to the states, like state side of New York.

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 2>And I've been like doing sessions two and there, so

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'll do a session come back home, cook watch TV.

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why did you choose in New York?

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I felt like the closest thing to London outside of England.

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Not that I've ever been there, but I would imagine, oh, London,

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>London there.

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels like the closest thing.

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And so you chose that over La. You didn't

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>want the laid back You didn't want that laid back? No, no, no,

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>no good pizza, no good Chinese.

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>No. Yeah, I think La. I was considering it. It's

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit far, like it's really not far. Yeah,

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit far from England. It's eleven hours

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to get here. I don't feel like doing that.

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Fly How how far is the flight from New York?

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>It's that five hours? That's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh I need to win. You go back, you know,

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I go back. You know what I'm saying. We do

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a little together. Okay, yes, okay, that's that short flight.

0:30:58.560 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Eleven hours is crazy.

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that it was only five hours.

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh I'm tripping.

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. Okay, So how would you describe

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>November Scorpio.

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>So November Scorpia is my debut album. It's just a

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>love letter to myself, that's all, but also what I

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 2>love letter to myself but also lovely what love letter?

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>A love letter to yourself?

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, love letter not letter.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>That accent is so sexy and it's so beautiful. But

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have a little ad. It's a

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>love letter to yourself.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, love letter to myself. It's also a real

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 2>like insight to how I love as a Scorpio, as

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 2>someone that's growing and very self aware. So yeah, it

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>was just me laying out how I've loved in the past,

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>how I want to love, and how I like to

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>feel loved.

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I must say this delicately, but I

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people are scared the scorpios because they, like,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, for an Aquarius, I tell Allius Aquarius, a

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>scorpio is the death to you. You will not survive

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 1>a scorpio. And I honestly like, I have Aquarius friends

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and they've learned a lesson to They're like, yes, Scorpios

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>or not, they're just not They're not good for aquariuses.

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You guys, wait, Acuarius is a sign

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>sign I think so, I don't know, but I know

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>for sure that Aquarius and Scorpios, I don't know. We

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>love our scorpios so hard that they are heartbreakers. Okay,

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>every Aquarius I know that's messed with a Scorpio. They

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>walk away hard.

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Wow. The thing is, I've never I've never doated Aquurus.

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I really don't run into Aquarus often, so maybe.

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Because there's they're they're running I was born in November.

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, yeah, don't even tell me what that's.

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, that's that's basically the premise of and.

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>That's why you named it November Scorpios.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's just a real like introspect, introspective album and

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 2>just talking about myself, which I'm a novembiscopia.

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 1>And did you write most of the project or all

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:10.239
<v Speaker 1>of it?

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So I've there's songs that I've written just like

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 2>solely by myself, but there's a lot of collaboration with

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>writers and producers on this album.

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I heard Chance the rapper was co signing you.

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, I thought I heard that. What song on

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the project. Would you say, is like your favorite song?

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, it changes. It really does change.

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>At the moment.

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I know you were going to say, no, it does,

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>so it does. But I think I really really love

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>energy right now. That's one of my favorites. I just yeah,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I just really really love energy. I've been trying to

0:33:55.480 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>like clock the up tempos for my music, and Energy

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>was the one I was like, yeah, this is this

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>is the up temper I needed. Yeah. Yeah, and this

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 2>is our temper I was supposed to make.

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, was there when you write your songs, the

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>songs that I guess, do you the songs that I

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>guess flow the fastest to you, you know, like where

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you're just like banged down when you're in your emotional moments.

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 2>No, not really, not really, not really emotional moments. I

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 2>think I think it's a little bit harder for me

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 2>to like like bang out songs that are like a

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>little bit more vulnerable and a little bit more personal.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>But having said that, I have a song called Money,

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>which was like, it's about like that, Yeah, you like

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>that same, thank you? I love that song too. Money

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 2>is basically, if you haven't heard it, it's about my

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>relationship with money very relatable.

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very relatable.

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Check it out. I talk about when I had money,

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 2>more money than I've ever seen before, and then just

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 2>like knowing how to deal with it and then having

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that realization of oh, I can actually make money work

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 2>for me. And then the final verse is about like

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>just how where I want to be and how I

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>want to treat money and my relationship with it, and yeah,

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>just understanding that money comes and goes and giving myself

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<v Speaker 2>the grace. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the older I get, the more I'm realizing that

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>there's seasons, Right, there's seasons when you're up, and there's

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:28.439
<v Speaker 1>seasons when you're down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you're up, though, when you experienced it up,

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about your up. Like when you've seen the

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>most money you've.

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:38.919
<v Speaker 2>Ever seen, a lot of it was food. I spent

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money.

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a painful, sad reality to be so sad.

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of money on food. I learned

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about food during that time.

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>You were like looked in your account and you were like,

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>where did the money go? I had this building and

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like Uber eats, Uber.

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Eats, it's going to restaurants and actually trying like good food.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, you're like a foodie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a foodie. Okay, absolutely, that's why I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like absolutely so wait so, but but you

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<v Speaker 1>had the best cuisines, right, Yes, it was worth it.

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 2>It was definitely worth I wouldn't take it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but you didn't you didn't like hurt yourself in

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the process of the spending, like you didn't you mean

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>fall short because you you looked up. You spent all

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the money on fine dining.

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean just being like being a major labeled

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>artist and having an advance, like it's only gonna last

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 2>you for so long. Yeah, like if you don't know

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.760
<v Speaker 2>how to like invest or, like keep the money around.

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>And I said before, like it was some of the

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<v Speaker 2>most it was the most money I've ever seen I'd

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>ever seen at that time. So and I was like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, yeah, twenty three year old and having all

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<v Speaker 2>this money.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's no lumps. By the way, guys, she's doing

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<v Speaker 1>a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the cinema stick that looks so good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just no, no, no, it's good, it's good. It's good.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>You gotta eat it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know how sweet you got kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, this is the o G classic. If

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<v Speaker 1>I have my iPhone right now? Was it justin?

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<v Speaker 2>Justin?

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<v Speaker 1>Say something?

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Justin?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, some had All right, we're gonna do a

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<v Speaker 1>taste test. Even though you use the ball your spoons,

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know how it's done from the top

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<v Speaker 1>the huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it from the side because that's the coolest part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right here. Oh yeah, yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen for anyone that questions my jamaking this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're valid.

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent right. I'm a thorough bro. Okay,

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to taste test this. You're gonna sit down

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:47.879
<v Speaker 1>with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, here we go. You did

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>it with a fork? Yeah, because my spoon is a

0:37:54.800 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 2>bad I don't like it.

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>It tastes fine, It tast fine.

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know any more of this. No, I think

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>you think I personally like it very like spicy, like

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 2>well not meg and then more cinnamon.

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<v Speaker 1>So her her porch came out exactly the way it's

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>supposed to come out, perfectly sweet, perfect amount of cinnamon

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and no lumps.

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put this for a steaks. I don't know

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 2>if you take pictures off stof Oh.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Put it under the camera.

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 2>See the cameras.

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll show that is the camera recording.

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh show that. Okay, we do this.

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Now you're trying to show out.

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Figure you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about, because if you

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 1>actually let it just sit in your mouth, it has

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of spice in it.

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it needs more sugar.

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it's perfect, Tianna. I'm the judge.

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh sorry, I'm the judge.

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>It's perfect. The porridge came out perfect. So it's a

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>home classic. Yeah, it comes in with me. Okay, it

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>looks beautiful, it looks doney. We're gonna take pictures with

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.399
<v Speaker 1>yours because you're not gonna eat it because you're you're

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:19.439
<v Speaker 1>hating on your own dish.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>And so now now that you're at what point did you,

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess, come out to your mom?

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 2>What point?

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>At what point did you come out to your mom

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:38.720
<v Speaker 1>where she gets mad enough to like because she didn't

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:39.439
<v Speaker 1>know the whole time.

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she didn't know the whole time. What point I

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:47.720
<v Speaker 2>think the point was? It was before like I was doing,

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 2>like really became t Animation Animals signed to my town. Okay,

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it was it was just it just got

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 2>really toxic and then just I just had to I

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 2>had to go.

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so this all happened before, So you were well

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>confident into going into promoting yourself as to who you

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>are as a whole person, Like, no, because you know,

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>like there was a there was a point where people

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>were either ashamed or didn't know if it would affect

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>their record sales or their fan base if they were

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent.

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, No, I think at that time I wasn't

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>like fully confident in it. I was living my life,

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 2>but I think I wasn't able to. I didn't know

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 2>how to manage the two. I didn't really have solid

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 2>examples or inspiration and how to be openly queer and

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 2>make R and B. Now I do. I think there

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people that I love and look

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 2>up to that are queer and open and themselves and

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I too, am living in my truth fully.

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>But you're extremely talented, Thank you, and November Scorpios amazing.

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like everyone, I think art at the

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>end of the day speaks for itself, right, So, like

0:40:59.400 --> 0:40:59.879
<v Speaker 1>if you hear.

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Them, is it?

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 1>You're like, that's a win, right, So what's your hopes

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>for November Scorpia.

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.959
<v Speaker 2>I hope that people listen to it, share it, and

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 2>apply some of the lessons, some of the lyrics to

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.919
<v Speaker 2>their life. Keep it going, just keep this project alive. Yeah,

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 2>live with it, sit with it, and just yeah, love it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're independent? Now, yes, what's the difference you're signed

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to an industry?

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with plus one okay.

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So what's the difference between now being with major and independent?

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Freedom? A lot more freedom, space, money.

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>The money is better.

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 2>No, so it's like you just have to make do

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>there is money. Give thanks, but yes, you have to

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 2>be a bit more creative with how you spend budget.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:56.240
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, just be creative now being in the industry

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>as long as you have. Do you feel like social

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>media is controlling majority of the direction of where the

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>industry is going at this point?

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Do I feel like social media?

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel pressure on the social media side?

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Do I feel pressure to be like active on socials? Hundred?

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like a full time job, isn't it. Do you

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>like it?

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Don't love it? I don't love it? Actually, I hate it.

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot to think about. It's a lot to

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>think about. I I don't desire to be seen all

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 2>the time. I really don't. I understand that I have

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.399
<v Speaker 2>to because of my job, but yeah, I don't. If

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I could just like make my music put out there,

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 2>people love it, and then go back into my sheld,

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and I would definitely do that. But I mean, social

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:51.800
<v Speaker 2>media is really good for promoting and promoting yourself and

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 2>having other people across the world find you. So it's

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 2>not a bad thing.

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I just I just am a little bit more like

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>what's the word guarded or like reserved.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think social media it needs to be a

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 2>bit more very Yeah.

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's good, like you get to interact with

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the fans, but yeah, yeah, all right, Well, thank you

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>so much for cooking. And guys, if you if Tiana

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>ever cooks a porge at your house, just know that

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna make a mess of the kitchen. Okay, it's

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.879
<v Speaker 1>a mess. I mean there's porridge everywhere. It looks great,

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>it tastes great. But thank you guys for tuning in.

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Make sure you check out November Scorpio out now, and

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>then you can follow Tiana Major nine online on social

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>media platforms and it's the number nine, right, yeah, Tiana

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>major nine. All right, thanks guys for tuning in. Peace

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<v Speaker 1>Out