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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guest Award Grammy Award nominated songwriter and recording artists

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Speaker 1: Tiana Major nine is in the building. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm will thanks, how are you goody? I love your music,

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Speaker 1: thank you, I love all of it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I love your share.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. And so today is very special for me.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this because out of one hundred, over

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty episodes, this dish has finally made

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Speaker 1: it to the show, and so I was very happy

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Speaker 1: when it came across our email. You could go ahead

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Speaker 1: and tell our listeners our watches what you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: me eating today?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we are going to make corn mill porridge classic,

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Speaker 2: a staple and something very close to my heart. And

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Speaker 2: obviously you told me it was hot.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this is if I had to do Eating

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Speaker 1: While Broke and I was on the other side, this

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Speaker 1: would have been my dish. So yes, and this is

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Speaker 1: like I think this is a staple in the Jamaican house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, this will keep you full for two days straight.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And so I grew up on it. Very I

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Speaker 1: was very small. I never paid attention, but my mom

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Speaker 1: would make it in the kitchen. I just knew how

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Speaker 1: to eat it the top to the bottom. But you

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Speaker 1: are gonna go ahead and tell us how to make

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Speaker 1: it and what the ingredients are.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So first we have cornmeal porridge. This is like

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Speaker 2: the grains, it's quiet, this is fine. Yes, the fine

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Speaker 2: corn sorry, corn mill, yes, no cornride, Yes, this is

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Speaker 2: the fine grain corn mill. We have the brown sugar

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Speaker 2: hair Bailieve. I've been doing this recently, and like I've

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Speaker 2: been posting on my Instagram and showing people like me

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Speaker 2: cooking because I love doing that, and a few people

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Speaker 2: have been like bay leaf, but I'm sorry the real

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Speaker 2: ones though.

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Speaker 1: You add a little bit of bay leaf in it

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Speaker 1: and you could really taste the difference.

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Speaker 2: You can, I personally can, but yeah, bay leaf is great.

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Speaker 2: Cinema sticks essential, nutmeg essential. We have some coconut milk.

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Speaker 2: It can't be car meal porridge. About this, and then

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Speaker 2: content smelk for some extra sweetness and flavor.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so I'm excited. Okay. And this guy's this

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Speaker 1: dish was beyond extremely affordable. So go ahead, tell us

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Speaker 1: what how do we make it okay.

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Speaker 2: So first I have another bowl here. You're going to

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Speaker 2: add the corn meal to this bowl. This is actually

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Speaker 2: quite a lot of corn meal. It's just for me

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Speaker 2: and you. Yeah, I think I want to.

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Speaker 1: Use some of the some of our guests may want

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Speaker 1: to try.

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Speaker 2: I want to do three of this corn mill. Put

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Speaker 2: the cormell on the bowl. He add some water, a

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Speaker 2: little bit of water.

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Speaker 1: I love your accent. I was secretly hoping you'd have

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Speaker 1: like a Jamaican accent, but I was like, it's not

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Speaker 1: the UK, the overseas just trumpeding, huh.

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Speaker 2: I was born in England, so.

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Speaker 1: So your parents didn't have any.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my mom has something. She has an accent.

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Speaker 2: It's her own like black British Jamaican accent because she's

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Speaker 2: like she was first generation, so she has that. My

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Speaker 2: dad was born in Jamaica, but he came over to

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Speaker 2: England when he was sixteen. But some reason, for some reason,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have a Jamaican accent, which is that's fair.

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Speaker 2: He's quite awesome. He's been around a long time. Ye basically,

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Speaker 2: I'm just stirring up the porridge with the water, just

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Speaker 2: to make sure that there's no lamps I'm going to

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Speaker 1: And here I thought the way to get the no

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Speaker 1: lumps was to do it over the stove. You pre

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you add a little bit of water to another

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Speaker 2: bar so you can kind of like mix it. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna add more water. Dropped the lid in there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: my dad doesn't have an accent. But we just went

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Speaker 2: back to Jamaica and he's he's he was trying to

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Speaker 1: I feel like Jamaica, like my mom was very like

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Speaker 1: almost ashamed of her like pats her accent, and so

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Speaker 1: she like the only time we hear pastball or Agamaican

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Speaker 1: and then you're just scared of death.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. My dad was telling me

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Speaker 2: that when he went to school. When he was going

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Speaker 2: when he was even in Jamaica, which it is quite crazy,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know. He was bringing it back womens

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Speaker 2: on Women's on holiday, So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not able to pick it up me

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I can do it. I just won't

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Speaker 2: do it until I'm like super confident in it.

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Speaker 1: Until your words super confident. You can't speak pet I can.

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Speaker 2: I can understand it, but I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm working on it. I'm figuring it all out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, So basically, so you're working out the lumps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I added water to the part and now I'm

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Speaker 2: going to kind of pour this corn meal water mixture

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Speaker 2: in here whilst stirring.

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Speaker 1: And this is low heat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, am I recording this to be recording?

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Speaker 1: This is it recording our praise? Recording?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Check?

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Speaker 1: Is it recording? No?

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Speaker 2: Press it? Okay? Oh yes, recording now? Yes, okay, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just stirring, like the cornmeal mixture into the water.

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Speaker 2: It's cold water first as well. That ensures that there's

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Speaker 2: no lumps in here. I'm gonna keep going because you said.

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Speaker 1: Because nobody likes the lumps. Just in case you've ever

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Speaker 1: had ports, you do not like the lumps. No, the

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Speaker 1: lumps are terrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will start it again. But you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: eat my, you just have to figure it out. You

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Speaker 2: have to figure it out. But yeah, this is spashing

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Speaker 2: a little bit, but you just basically start in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then it's basically going to get thicker, and then

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Speaker 2: that's when you add all the other stuff. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: really really simple.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, are you going to scrape

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Speaker 1: the other stuff in there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the water is still cold, so it won't. It won't.

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Speaker 1: So as long as the water is cold, that's when

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Speaker 1: you get the lumps out, not when it's hot.

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Speaker 2: Yes, God, it will be harder to get the lumps

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Speaker 2: out when it's hot. It would be better to do

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Speaker 2: it with a whisk. But yes, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got this. Pretend you're actually eating while broke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have limited You weren't independent artists, yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So take me back to what was going

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Speaker 1: on during the Cormea Porridge days.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I was living with my mom in East Ham.

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Speaker 2: I'm from East London, m H. And we were it

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Speaker 2: was me, my mom, my sister, and my older brother.

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Speaker 2: My dad was in my life, but we didn't live together.

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Speaker 2: They weren't together, but yeah, we were. It was just

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Speaker 2: the four of us in the house and my mom

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Speaker 2: would be working and trying to make do. I'd be

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Speaker 2: going to like an after school club because she wouldn't

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Speaker 2: so they would just pick me up from school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we were just funking it out in east Ham,

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Speaker 1: So single mom essentially, yes, literally three kids, Yeah I had,

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Speaker 2: I have two older brothers and one sister, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's had four, four of us. But yeah, there was

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Speaker 2: Usaid no two boys twirls yeah, okay perfect?

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Speaker 1: And then was there a lot of music in the house?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of music my mom. I grew up

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Speaker 2: going to church, come to Costal Church Kojik, and my

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Speaker 2: mom would always be playing gospel. She'd be in like

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Speaker 2: praise and worship. She'd be leading praise and worship. Also

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Speaker 2: like a Sunday school teacher as well, so there would.

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Speaker 1: Be so you were like a lot of church.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of church. It was school after

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Speaker 2: what was it drama school? And then church. That was

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Speaker 2: all I did for a while.

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Speaker 1: Wow did she know? When? At what point did she

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Speaker 1: or you realize that you had a voice of gold?

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Speaker 2: I think around five that's when she started going back

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Speaker 2: fascinated by music. I really loved music. And she was

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Speaker 2: also going to vocal lessons on the side to like

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Speaker 2: in the evening she was doing like vocal lessons, she

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Speaker 2: would come back and teach me the songs and like

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Speaker 2: teach me the stuff that she was learning in those lessons.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, around five, Okay, now I know I can't sing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So there's some people like they could humme a knowe,

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Speaker 1: and you just know, like God.

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Speaker 2: Just blessed you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you're in the category of the

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Speaker 1: God just center voice your way. But it is nice

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Speaker 1: to hear that you worked on it. Absolutely absolutely, but

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Speaker 1: it does seem very like God given.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Am I not wrong?

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't think you're wrong. I just I

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Speaker 2: think that with anybody, you do need to rehearse. Like

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Speaker 2: from when I was younger, if I listened to old

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Speaker 2: videos or watch old videos of me singing when I

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Speaker 2: I can hear the work. I'm so glad I stuck

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, why was your mom taking these music lessons?

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Speaker 1: Does she want to pursue it? Professionally.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he was really Mom's really

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Speaker 2: into like extracurriculous stuff, like even now she goes to

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Speaker 2: like she's joined like a few fitter schools and like

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Speaker 2: she just likes to just be active. And that was

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Speaker 2: something that she did with her sisters as well. They

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Speaker 2: all went, so it was like a fun thing. She

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Speaker 2: loves to sing, so okay, it was just yeah, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't like a full career. I'm sure, yeah, as far

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Speaker 2: as I know, but it was, yeah, just to have

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Speaker 2: a little something to do in the week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're you're in the church, you're singing five

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Speaker 1: are you singing further church? At their point or starting?

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Speaker 2: I was trying my hardest too. I was really really

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Speaker 2: trying my hardest too. I was trying to like befriend

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Speaker 2: the pastor's wife, like just like hey, like you tease

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Speaker 2: be able to sing, or like, can I sing next week?

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Speaker 1: Like just as a young, young, young l Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like I was like just really just trying to sing

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Speaker 2: wherever I can. And then I would go to like

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Speaker 2: youth conventions and just asks to sing and Christmas time

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Speaker 2: and it was like the children would like sing a

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Speaker 2: song or showcase talent or whatever. I would always be singing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay. And so you're your mom one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent embraced this.

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Speaker 2: Part of you, Yes, one hundred she at what point

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Speaker 2: she would now I was going to say, she really

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Speaker 1: Now take me back to your career. So you're at

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Speaker 2: I think I've had a few points. I think the

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Speaker 1: That's a big deal. Yeah, it's a big moment.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, it's not gonna burn. And then I'm putting

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Speaker 1: Now you're just gonna add it and just leave it

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Speaker 2: He's okay, you add cold water, so it as we said,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't lump up. Okay too much? Okay, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: We were talking about your deal with Moltown.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so Lindsay met up with Progression, who's an

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Speaker 2: Not a hunt, but like she just really wanted to

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Speaker 2: And then we stayed in contact. I had a headline

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was trying to do as much as I could.

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Speaker 2: I was working on my project, my EP at home,

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Speaker 2: Oh, painful lessons no one owes you anything at all.

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Speaker 2: And a good lesson is it's kind of similar. It's

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Speaker 2: like people come and go, but right people will stay,

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Speaker 2: and like it's also good to meet loads of people

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Speaker 2: I think I think I met some really really good people,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but for one of the lessons to be

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get them. You know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: No, I think there was there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: It just wasn't anybody left.

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Speaker 1: It smells like cormells. Okay, I'm excited. I haven't had

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Speaker 1: It's because that never made it to my belly. Trust me,

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Speaker 2: That's also eat It's okay, but it never had you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was definitely like anxious that whole time because

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00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: it's just it was just very new and like I've

441
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 2: never been on tour before and there was a lot

442
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: of moving parts. But yeah, I was I was happy

443
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 2: that I was on tour. I wanted to come back

444
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: and just figure it all out. But yeah, there was

445
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't we wasn't able to like get through. We

446
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: didn't actually know what was happening, but my manage, me

447
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: and my manager at the time just decided to just

448
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: keep going and just like just keep taking opportunities. I

449
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: supported Adele shortly after, which was great.

450
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: You were supported Adele support. What does that look like?

451
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh? She had a show in Okay, this is enough.

452
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 2: She had a show in London, two shows. It was

453
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 2: a British summertime festival and yeah it was. She just

454
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: headlined the whole festival. She had myself, Mahalia, Gabrielle and

455
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: that was it. We just supported her over two days

456
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: in the park and it was iconic. I want to

457
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: put this, Yeah it is.

458
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna fit. Is it gonna fit?

459
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow? Okay, I want to turn it all the

460
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: way down and that will just cook.

461
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: How much longer?

462
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: Maybe we could do like ten fifteen minutes, as.

463
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: Long as it doesn't burn the But no, I'm trusting you.

464
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: You're the chef, and I am dying to eat it.

465
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: We're good with no lumps.

466
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: We're good. No, there's no lumps in there.

467
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I saw you fish them out. So you're

468
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: so you're to the Motown after Jasmine, your aunt tour

469
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: with Adele, You're doing shows with Adele again. It's like,

470
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how you would feel, but I would

471
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: be like I've arrived kind of.

472
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure how to feel. I mean,

473
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: I felt really good because it was Adele and she

474
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: had supported me like previously. When my EP came out,

475
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: she was one of the first people to post about it,

476
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't know how she found this,

477
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: but it really aligned and yeah, I was I had

478
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: a great time. That was a great show. I didn't

479
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: get to meet her though, but it was just.

480
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: That's what I was going. I was gonna say, when

481
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: you're traveling with these artists art is there any room

482
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: for like, hey, can you be my mentor ish.

483
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: Or I mean, they like Judson Sullivan and Adele are

484
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: the huge divas, so I think when I was like

485
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: performing alongside them, there wasn't really much time for that anyway.

486
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would have loved to done that if

487
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: there was time, but there wasn't really much time to

488
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: do that. And when I was supporting Jadsmine as well,

489
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: it was you're in like COVID and lockdown, so there

490
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: was very strict rules and sixteen yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

491
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: and then you had the mask was it was very

492
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: strict in that way. So yeah, we even had to

493
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: stop at one point because she got sick unfortunately, and

494
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: then we had to Yeah, we had to pause and

495
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: then come back like maybe like a week or two later. Yeah,

496
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: it was strict at that time.

497
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: Who was handling your tour bookings? Is it your manager,

498
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: is it the label?

499
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: I think it was a bit of everybody. But I

500
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: had an agent and my manager at this time as well.

501
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're like learning this industry while pursuing music

502
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: because you're the artist, but you're also learning the business. Yes,

503
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: and so you get off the tours. At what point

504
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: do you have to reroute or separate from Motown Because

505
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm guessing there's a separation in here, right.

506
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: I think at this time it's not necessarily a separation.

507
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: I think it's more. Yeah, it was definitely more. I

508
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: was in the UK a lot more, and at that

509
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: time there was Motown UK and we're just figuring out

510
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: figuring out Motown UK. It was brand new. So I

511
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: had a team at Motown UK and they were just

512
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: like trying to get me opportunity, trying to get me

513
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: like out there in London a little bit more. So.

514
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: It wasn't that wasn't like the departure. That was more

515
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: like a pivot of teams when they were a little

516
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 2: bit more responsible for the things that I was doing

517
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: in London.

518
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: So all your touring was in the UK.

519
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Janeine Sullivan was across America. Adele was in London,

520
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 2: and yeah, everything in between that time was in London.

521
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

522
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, And then what kind of industry insights

523
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,479
Speaker 1: did you learn from that whole chapter?

524
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: H Visibility Definitely keep going and just like even if

525
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: there isn't like music ready at that time, just keep going,

526
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: just keep being visible, like yeah, marketing, shutting yourself out there. Absolutely,

527
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: that was a big thing because I think I got

528
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: really I got really sad after the tour because it

529
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: was like it was a lot, it was a lot.

530
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: I also just got diagnosed with ADHD after the tour

531
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah twenty seven.

532
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: This was a random diagnosis.

533
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: No no, no, I went for it myself, private dignosis.

534
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was like it was a whole like.

535
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: What made you sit look into that because I think.

536
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: It was not I think I keep saying. I think

537
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: it was something that I've always like had a feeling of,

538
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: like an inkling of things were a little bit harder

539
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: for me to.

540
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: Like concentrate content.

541
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: Concentrate like this content is focused, it's comprehend so like

542
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: you might have to say something a little bit a

543
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: few more times for me to really understand. Yeah, it's

544
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: like for me to understand, for me to understand, but yeah,

545
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: it's always been something that I've just.

546
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: Felt and then one day you were like, that's it,

547
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: We're going to solve the problem.

548
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, I was like, either I'm really stupid or

549
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: there's something going on. And it was like I was like, Okay,

550
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm relieved. Yeah I'm not smart.

551
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm not is it ADHD or eighty adhd? ADHD? I

552
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: thought it was like when you can't sit still.

553
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have inattentive ADHD, which means like I

554
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: could be looking at you. You can come like taking in

555
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: what you're saying. I'm like, I don't know what's going

556
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: on kind of thing. Really.

557
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what do they do the treat that? Is

558
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: it riddling?

559
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: Huh?

560
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 1: Is it riddling? Isn't that like a drug that they

561
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: give you if you have ADHD?

562
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 2: Id I know?

563
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

564
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

565
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what. No, I'm like, do they do

566
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: they say, Okay, now that you have this, this is

567
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: what you have to do.

568
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can have medication if that's what you want,

569
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: but you don't have to.

570
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: Have medic I feel like you're not You're not on medication. Okay,

571
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: so you are, so they gave you something.

572
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did private so I had that option. But

573
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: it's not like I don't need it every day. It's

574
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: only when I need to really lock in and focus.

575
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 1: So, like, if you're in the studio for like twenty

576
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: four hours, is that.

577
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: I would never be in a tent.

578
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would just assume that artists are

579
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: in the studio locked in, you know, you hearing writing

580
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: and music sessions.

581
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: No, no, I get too distracted. I can't be in

582
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: the study for twenty four hours. But sometimes it depends

583
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: if it really depends on the day. I'm like, I

584
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: need I need that extra bit of like focus on

585
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: location to do stuff.

586
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: So what's in a day in the life of Tiana?

587
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh, day in the life, Day in the life. Recently

588
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: it's been it's different, it's shifted. But day in the

589
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: life is a wake up. I walk my dogs plural, Yeah,

590
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: two dogs. I had one, but then my girlfriend has

591
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: another dog. She has a dog, so now we have too. Yeah,

592
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: walk my dogs, come back, feed them, feed myself. I

593
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: just moved to the states, like state side of New York.

594
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: And I've been like doing sessions two and there, so

595
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: sometimes I'll do a session come back home, cook watch TV.

596
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, why did you choose in New York?

597
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: I felt like the closest thing to London outside of England.

598
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: Not that I've ever been there, but I would imagine, oh, London,

599
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: London there.

600
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like the closest thing.

601
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: Okay, And so you chose that over La. You didn't

602
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: want the laid back You didn't want that laid back? No, no, no,

603
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: no good pizza, no good Chinese.

604
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, I think La. I was considering it. It's

605
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: just a little bit far, like it's really not far. Yeah,

606
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: it's a little bit far from England. It's eleven hours

607
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: to get here. I don't feel like doing that.

608
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: Fly How how far is the flight from New York?

609
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: It's that five hours? That's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

610
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: Oh I need to win. You go back, you know,

611
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: I go back. You know what I'm saying. We do

612
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: a little together. Okay, yes, okay, that's that short flight.

613
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: Eleven hours is crazy.

614
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know that it was only five hours.

615
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I'm tripping.

616
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay, So how would you describe

617
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: November Scorpio.

618
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: So November Scorpia is my debut album. It's just a

619
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: love letter to myself, that's all, but also what I

620
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: love letter to myself but also lovely what love letter?

621
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: A love letter to yourself?

622
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, love letter not letter.

623
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: That accent is so sexy and it's so beautiful. But

624
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a little ad. It's a

625
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: love letter to yourself.

626
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, love letter to myself. It's also a real

627
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: like insight to how I love as a Scorpio, as

628
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: someone that's growing and very self aware. So yeah, it

629
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: was just me laying out how I've loved in the past,

630
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: how I want to love, and how I like to

631
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: feel loved.

632
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I must say this delicately, but I

633
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are scared the scorpios because they, like,

634
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: I know, for an Aquarius, I tell Allius Aquarius, a

635
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: scorpio is the death to you. You will not survive

636
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: a scorpio. And I honestly like, I have Aquarius friends

637
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: and they've learned a lesson to They're like, yes, Scorpios

638
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: or not, they're just not They're not good for aquariuses.

639
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. You guys, wait, Acuarius is a sign

640
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: sign I think so, I don't know, but I know

641
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: for sure that Aquarius and Scorpios, I don't know. We

642
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: love our scorpios so hard that they are heartbreakers. Okay,

643
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: every Aquarius I know that's messed with a Scorpio. They

644
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: walk away hard.

645
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: Wow. The thing is, I've never I've never doated Aquurus.

646
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: I really don't run into Aquarus often, so maybe.

647
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: Because there's they're they're running I was born in November.

648
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, yeah, don't even tell me what that's.

649
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that's that's basically the premise of and.

650
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: That's why you named it November Scorpios.

651
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just a real like introspect, introspective album and

652
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: just talking about myself, which I'm a novembiscopia.

653
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: And did you write most of the project or all

654
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 1: of it?

655
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I've there's songs that I've written just like

656
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: solely by myself, but there's a lot of collaboration with

657
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: writers and producers on this album.

658
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: I heard Chance the rapper was co signing you.

659
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

660
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I thought I heard that. What song on

661
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: the project. Would you say, is like your favorite song?

662
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it changes. It really does change.

663
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: At the moment.

664
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: I know you were going to say, no, it does,

665
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: so it does. But I think I really really love

666
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: energy right now. That's one of my favorites. I just yeah,

667
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: I just really really love energy. I've been trying to

668
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: like clock the up tempos for my music, and Energy

669
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: was the one I was like, yeah, this is this

670
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: is the up temper I needed. Yeah. Yeah, and this

671
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: is our temper I was supposed to make.

672
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, was there when you write your songs, the

673
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: songs that I guess, do you the songs that I

674
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: guess flow the fastest to you, you know, like where

675
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: you're just like banged down when you're in your emotional moments.

676
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: No, not really, not really, not really emotional moments. I

677
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: think I think it's a little bit harder for me

678
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: to like like bang out songs that are like a

679
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: little bit more vulnerable and a little bit more personal.

680
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: But having said that, I have a song called Money,

681
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: which was like, it's about like that, Yeah, you like

682
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: that same, thank you? I love that song too. Money

683
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: is basically, if you haven't heard it, it's about my

684
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: relationship with money very relatable.

685
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very relatable.

686
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: Check it out. I talk about when I had money,

687
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: more money than I've ever seen before, and then just

688
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: like knowing how to deal with it and then having

689
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: that realization of oh, I can actually make money work

690
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: for me. And then the final verse is about like

691
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: just how where I want to be and how I

692
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: want to treat money and my relationship with it, and yeah,

693
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: just understanding that money comes and goes and giving myself

694
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: the grace. Yeah.

695
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the older I get, the more I'm realizing that

696
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: there's seasons, Right, there's seasons when you're up, and there's

697
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: seasons when you're down.

698
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

699
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I think when you're up, though, when you experienced it up,

700
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: let's talk about your up. Like when you've seen the

701
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: most money you've.

702
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: Ever seen, a lot of it was food. I spent

703
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: a lot of money.

704
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: That's that's a painful, sad reality to be so sad.

705
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of money on food. I learned

706
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: a lot about food during that time.

707
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: You were like looked in your account and you were like,

708
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: where did the money go? I had this building and

709
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: it's like Uber eats, Uber.

710
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: Eats, it's going to restaurants and actually trying like good food.

711
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Oh oh, you're like a foodie.

712
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a foodie. Okay, absolutely, that's why I wanted

713
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: to do this.

714
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: I was like absolutely so wait so, but but you

715
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: had the best cuisines, right, Yes, it was worth it.

716
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: It was definitely worth I wouldn't take it back.

717
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Okay, but you didn't you didn't like hurt yourself in

718
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: the process of the spending, like you didn't you mean

719
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: fall short because you you looked up. You spent all

720
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: the money on fine dining.

721
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: No, I mean just being like being a major labeled

722
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: artist and having an advance, like it's only gonna last

723
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: you for so long. Yeah, like if you don't know

724
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 2: how to like invest or, like keep the money around.

725
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: And I said before, like it was some of the

726
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: most it was the most money I've ever seen I'd

727
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: ever seen at that time. So and I was like

728
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: twenty three, yeah, twenty three year old and having all

729
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: this money.

730
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: Okay, there's no lumps. By the way, guys, she's doing

731
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: a great job.

732
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: This is the cinema stick that looks so good. Yeah,

733
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: just no, no, no, it's good, it's good. It's good.

734
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: You gotta eat it too.

735
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how sweet you got kids.

736
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is the o G classic. If

737
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: I have my iPhone right now? Was it justin?

738
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: Justin?

739
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: Say something?

740
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: Justin?

741
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, some had All right, we're gonna do a

742
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: taste test. Even though you use the ball your spoons,

743
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: you know, you know how it's done from the top

744
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: the huh.

745
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: I did it from the side because that's the coolest part.

746
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah right here. Oh yeah, yeah, I know.

747
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: Listen for anyone that questions my jamaking this.

748
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: Now you're valid.

749
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent right. I'm a thorough bro. Okay,

750
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: I want to taste test this. You're gonna sit down

751
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: with me.

752
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, here we go. You did

753
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: it with a fork? Yeah, because my spoon is a

754
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: bad I don't like it.

755
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: It tastes fine, It tast fine.

756
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't know any more of this. No, I think

757
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: you think I personally like it very like spicy, like

758
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: well not meg and then more cinnamon.

759
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: So her her porch came out exactly the way it's

760
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: supposed to come out, perfectly sweet, perfect amount of cinnamon

761
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: and no lumps.

762
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put this for a steaks. I don't know

763
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: if you take pictures off stof Oh.

764
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: Put it under the camera.

765
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: See the cameras.

766
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: I'll show that is the camera recording.

767
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: Yes, oh show that. Okay, we do this.

768
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Now you're trying to show out.

769
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: Figure you know what.

770
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, because if you

771
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: actually let it just sit in your mouth, it has

772
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: a lot of spice in it.

773
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: Maybe it needs more sugar.

774
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: No, it's perfect, Tianna. I'm the judge.

775
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh sorry, I'm the judge.

776
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: It's perfect. The porridge came out perfect. So it's a

777
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: home classic. Yeah, it comes in with me. Okay, it

778
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: looks beautiful, it looks doney. We're gonna take pictures with

779
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: yours because you're not gonna eat it because you're you're

780
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: hating on your own dish.

781
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: All right.

782
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: And so now now that you're at what point did you,

783
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: I guess, come out to your mom?

784
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: What point?

785
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: At what point did you come out to your mom

786
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: where she gets mad enough to like because she didn't

787
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: know the whole time.

788
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't know the whole time. What point I

789
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: think the point was? It was before like I was doing,

790
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: like really became t Animation Animals signed to my town. Okay,

791
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: but yeah, it was it was just it just got

792
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: really toxic and then just I just had to I

793
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: had to go.

794
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this all happened before, So you were well

795
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: confident into going into promoting yourself as to who you

796
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: are as a whole person, Like, no, because you know,

797
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: like there was a there was a point where people

798
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: were either ashamed or didn't know if it would affect

799
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: their record sales or their fan base if they were

800
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: hundred percent.

801
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I think at that time I wasn't

802
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: like fully confident in it. I was living my life,

803
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: but I think I wasn't able to. I didn't know

804
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: how to manage the two. I didn't really have solid

805
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: examples or inspiration and how to be openly queer and

806
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: make R and B. Now I do. I think there

807
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: are a lot of people that I love and look

808
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: up to that are queer and open and themselves and

809
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: I too, am living in my truth fully.

810
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: But you're extremely talented, Thank you, and November Scorpios amazing.

811
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

812
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: So I feel like everyone, I think art at the

813
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: end of the day speaks for itself, right, So, like

814
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: if you hear.

815
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: Them, is it?

816
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: You're like, that's a win, right, So what's your hopes

817
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: for November Scorpia.

818
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 2: I hope that people listen to it, share it, and

819
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: apply some of the lessons, some of the lyrics to

820
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 2: their life. Keep it going, just keep this project alive. Yeah,

821
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: live with it, sit with it, and just yeah, love it.

822
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: And you're independent? Now, yes, what's the difference you're signed

823
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: to an industry?

824
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with plus one okay.

825
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: So what's the difference between now being with major and independent?

826
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: Freedom? A lot more freedom, space, money.

827
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: The money is better.

828
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: No, so it's like you just have to make do

829
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: there is money. Give thanks, but yes, you have to

830
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: be a bit more creative with how you spend budget.

831
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, just be creative now being in the industry

832
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: as long as you have. Do you feel like social

833
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: media is controlling majority of the direction of where the

834
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: industry is going at this point?

835
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: Do I feel like social media?

836
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Do you feel pressure on the social media side?

837
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: Do I feel pressure to be like active on socials? Hundred?

838
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: It's like a full time job, isn't it. Do you

839
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: like it?

840
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: Don't love it? I don't love it? Actually, I hate it.

841
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: It's a lot to think about. It's a lot to

842
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: think about. I I don't desire to be seen all

843
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: the time. I really don't. I understand that I have

844
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: to because of my job, but yeah, I don't. If

845
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: I could just like make my music put out there,

846
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: people love it, and then go back into my sheld,

847
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: and I would definitely do that. But I mean, social

848
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: media is really good for promoting and promoting yourself and

849
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: having other people across the world find you. So it's

850
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: not a bad thing.

851
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: I just I just am a little bit more like

852
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: what's the word guarded or like reserved.

853
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think social media it needs to be a

854
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: bit more very Yeah.

855
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I think it's good, like you get to interact with

856
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: the fans, but yeah, yeah, all right, Well, thank you

857
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: so much for cooking. And guys, if you if Tiana

858
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: ever cooks a porge at your house, just know that

859
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: she's gonna make a mess of the kitchen. Okay, it's

860
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: a mess. I mean there's porridge everywhere. It looks great,

861
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: it tastes great. But thank you guys for tuning in.

862
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out November Scorpio out now, and

863
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: then you can follow Tiana Major nine online on social

864
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: media platforms and it's the number nine, right, yeah, Tiana

865
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: major nine. All right, thanks guys for tuning in. Peace

866
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Speaker 1: Out