1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: dot Com, the Giants Mobile, the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: to the newest Giants Huttle Podcast. I'm John Schmilk. It's 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: our game preview the Giants and Chargers coming your way 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Sunday at four oh five. Busy show. Today, I'll talk 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: to Giants defensive back Julian Love, Paul de Tino, Lance Meado, 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: talk to Matt money Smith, who you know from Metaphl Network, 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: also to play by play man for the l A Chargers, 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: and Bob Papa talks to Giants head coach Joe Judge. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: But first, as a reminder, you can find the John 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Tuttle Podcast on the Giants moble app at Giants dot com, 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Slash Podcast, but most importantly on all of your favorite 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: podcast platforms. Let's get to it. I lead off with 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: Giants defensive back Julian Love. Julian thanks so much of 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: their time out there in Tucson. Man, how are you? 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me? Yeah, I'm doing well. How are you? 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Man? So let's talk about that first. 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: How has the University of Arizona been and there your 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: few days of practice you've had out there in Tucson. Yeah, 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: it's been good. You know, Uh, the team out here, 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Arizona football team has been very combinating for all of 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: us and has been pretty good. We've enjoyed it so far. 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, prices have been, you know, pretty standard. We 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: begin after we have maybe a few more UH spectators, 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: which is exciting. I remember seeing some UH professionals play 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: when I was in college, and so I think that's 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: pretty exciting. Does it almost I know you probably haven't experienced, 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, like a true, true training camp with all 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: the COVID stuff, But does it have like a little 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: bit of a training camp field to it a little bit? Oh? 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, the long back um kind of 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: extra bonding time. Yeah, it's very reminous of my rookie 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: years training camp, which has been pretty exciting. Uh. It's 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: good to get kind of get that mid season, that camaraderie. 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: Talk about that camaraderie, like how have you guys you 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: don't spend your time when you haven't been on the field, 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: and I know Joe Judge talked about that possibly being 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: a benefit of this you guys, you know, kind of 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: being around each other and having no distractions out there. Yeah, 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean you know, usually we have you know, distractions 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: down home in terms of good distractions, in terms of 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: family and stuff like that. Uh, you know, good stuff. 43 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: And so this week, you know, being away from all that, um, 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: we're able to do more after practices, after our long 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: days of working. Um. So we've been on to dinner 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: a few times with the guys. Wednesday night we went 47 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: to UH University on a basketball game, which is exciting. UM, 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of see the atmosphere, a pretty good team and 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: just stuff like that. Man it uh, it really means 50 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot, just to get to know your players some more. Um, 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: outside of the football realm. Did you have to like 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: go into the closet and like pull out some shorts? 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: Like how did that go? Oh? Yeah, I keep the story. 54 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm a Midwest guy, so I keep the story. I 55 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: keep the shorts on hand. All these a hoodie. I'm 56 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: good to go. But it's been beautiful out here. I mean, 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: you can't ask her after better whether out here? All right, 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: So let's talk about your defense. You look at the 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: points allowed the last half dozen games or so, Julian 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: looks great. What do you think you guys have been doing? 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: Particularly well on defense to to yield those results in 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: your last half dozen games or so. Yeah, I think 63 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: we made a commitment as years. I think you know, 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: it gets passed down from the top level to the 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: coaches to us, but we made a commitment as just 66 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: pure players too really turn this thing around to really 67 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, figure out what we need to do to 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: be successful. And for us, we realize that we need 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: to dominate a game, um to be successful in this league. 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: It's just you know, the state of where we're at. 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, we try to take over a game on defense. 72 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: That's kind of our mindset. And so when you know, 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: we aim high to the bar, highlight that, um, you know, 74 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: set the standard. You know, the standard is the standard. 75 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: And so now anything short of that, you know, we 76 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: know we need to really grind that um. And with 77 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: all of that ties into the aspect of accountability. And 78 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: so I think that's been an all time high, especially 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: in the past, like you said, half a dozen games, UM. 80 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: And so just keeping that that that swag you're going 81 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: is kind of helps us drive just in forward. A 82 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 1: couple of things I want to touch on specifically. One 83 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: is the concept of disguising, which is something I think 84 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: you guys did so last year, and I think you've 85 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: gone to the point where're doing it well again. Do 86 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: you feel like you guys are doing a really good 87 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: job disguising again? You know, every play you guys seem 88 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: to line up with two safeties deep, but then at 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: the snap you're going to man, you're going to cover one, 90 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: you going to cover three, you go into cover two, 91 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: and it just seems like pre snap, it's very difficult 92 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: to see what defense you guys are gonna be in 93 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: post snap. Yeah, I think you know, we we had 94 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: the hot run last year. Um, I want you know, 95 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of games in a row we were at 96 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: all tem high in terms of disguising, you know, figuring 97 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: things out. I think part of that is you know 98 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: your alignments pre snap and uh kind of messing with 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But part of it is also just being 100 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: able to be versatile as players. And you know, when 101 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: you have you guys line up with different spots, doing 102 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: different things all the time, keeping it flowing. Uh, I 103 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: mean it confuses people. You know, some teams might have 104 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: the same guys doing the same things. Were trying to 105 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: mix it up, and we're trying to get back to 106 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: that for sure. Um. And so as element is kind 107 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: of being all around, which you know, as you know 108 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: that U, that fits my mold pretty well. As a 109 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: duct tape of the team, they say, well, yeah, I 110 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: was gonna touch on that later, but you brought it up. 111 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Do you like the nickname duct tape or or would 112 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: you prefer like gaffer's tape or scotch tape? Do you 113 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: like duct tape? You got? I'm good duct tape. I 114 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: mean it's quick, it's sure. I'm trying to make it 115 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: one of my own. I gotta get uh some apparel 116 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: um going for that. Um. But yeah, it's kind of 117 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: a funny thing. And some people still call me that, 118 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: but yeah, I own it for sure. It's a compliment. Oh, 119 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: it's absolutely a compliment. So all these different things that 120 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: they've asked you to do, Julian, and I know you're 121 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna say, I'll do whatever they asked me, and that's fine. 122 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: What do you find the most fun? Do you like 123 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: being the center fielder where you're reading the quarterback, you 124 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: come down, try to make a play on the ball. 125 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Do you like being the guy that they say, all right, 126 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: you go cover the tight end? Shut this guy you 127 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: know down and take him out of the game. What 128 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: do you have the most fun doing? That's a good question. 129 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: You know. For a time I was really in my 130 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: lest year in the middle of the field. Um, I 131 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: really enjoyed that. But I mean I think at my route, 132 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: in my core, I really like being kind of in 133 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the box has a strong safety role nickel maybe um 134 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: just to be close to the ball and getting the 135 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: run fits um thiss just something that I don't know. 136 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: This excites me about playing the game football, and so 137 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: anything I can pay position that has me down there, 138 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm happy with. See. By the way, now now I 139 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: know why the coaches to have loved you so much. 140 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: You know, how hard to find a defensive back that 141 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: says he likes to do run fits Those guys don't 142 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: cover rappery often bad be good for you. Yeah, I 143 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: think I don't know. Like I said, I think it 144 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: must be Midwestern. I feel like that was like the 145 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: bread and butter of growing up. It's just kind of 146 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: a hard nosed style of football. And um, I definitely 147 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: have a little finesse to me for sure. But you know, 148 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: at my core, in my most successful years, I feel 149 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: like I've been well established in the run fits getting 150 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: back to the team very quickly. One I think aspect 151 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: of the defense that has been really strong Julie has 152 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: been the red zone defense. What's the key to being 153 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: a good red zone defense? Yeah, I think obviously it's 154 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: a matter of execution, but it's really a mindset, like 155 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: you could be on short field whatever, they can have 156 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: a drive. It's the mindset to like na like three 157 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: is all they get. That said, we're gonna hold hold 158 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: top and part of tackling part of its asignment harvest 159 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: disguise um. But the main aspect of it is just 160 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: the mental um, mental aspects of really being like all 161 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: right now now that we make our our staying, let's 162 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: talk about your second there a little bit. You were 163 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: that a Dory Jackson last week. Aaron Robinson is had 164 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: to step in and play a much bigger role with 165 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: someone that missed all of the spring and summer. He 166 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: was on pup to start the year. What kind of 167 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: progress have you seen from Aaron as his role just 168 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: increases every week with other guys being banged up around 169 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: the secondary. Yeah, I mean he's just he's a guy 170 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: who you know is but's it's it's very selfless. It's 171 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: a very selfless player. You know, anything that he's told 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: um he does, he does it, you know, without batting. 173 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: And I I feel like you get that phrase a lot. 174 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: But he really just owns kind of his role and 175 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: he owns coach. And he's a very posible guy, which 176 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: is great. And any think he sees, he feels, you know, 177 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: he'll say it. Um. He might come up as a 178 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: little introverted at times, but you know when he when 179 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: he's going and he's as peak. You can see it 180 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: on game days, and he has some swag going about him. 181 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: So I think all around, mean, all the guys love him. 182 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: So it's really good to have him out there in action. 183 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about your opponent, the Chargers this week, Julian. 184 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: When you take a look at Justin Herbert on tape, 185 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: what jumps out to you as being the most dangerous 186 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: aspect of the way he plays quarterback? Man, I mean, 187 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: all around, you know Herbert's sister stud. I think there's 188 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: no way around it. You know, he can play quarterback 189 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: in the system a systematic type of way. You know, 190 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: it could be a system for like for sure, um, 191 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: but which you know is dangerous with the right system. Um. 192 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: But on top of that, he has the ability to 193 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: freestyle because he's so strong, because he's a big, fast, 194 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: um accurate and just incredibly intelligent. So yeah, I mean 195 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: what you see on tape is that the kids is 196 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: just a good quarterback. Um. Yeah, I mean he's gonna 197 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: be a good quarterback for a long time in this league. 198 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: And so what we gotta do is really play our 199 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: game and figure out what we want to do and 200 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: we want to execute to be successful. What are some 201 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: of the things you have to maybe adjust or do 202 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: a little bit differently, given one his mobility and his 203 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: ability to keep plays alive and even run if if 204 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: the if the situation presents itself. But also I went 205 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: back and I watched all his big time throws this year, 206 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: Julian and the times they like to roll him right 207 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: and then throw back to a guy crossing over to 208 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: the left, and just the added dimension his elite arm 209 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: strength games along with his mobility. How does that impact 210 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: the way you have to go out there and play. Yeah, 211 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: so I feel like you know that concept rolling opposite 212 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: and throwing across your body was a huge fat and 213 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: like the Pro Day circuit the past two or three years, 214 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: everybody it's pulling that out for some reason. But he's 215 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: a guy was pulling that out of games, which is 216 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: like really incredible, And it's just I mean, you're able 217 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: to do so much as an offense when you um, 218 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: when you because of him, um, because of a huge 219 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: army has um. And so for us, you know, it's 220 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: it's a matter of playing top down, UM, and really 221 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: trying to just play deeperstort limited to be played in tackle. UM. 222 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: Obviously we want to make the things we want to 223 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: make him want to skies himself, We want to do 224 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things. UM. But the hill the day, 225 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: it's a really simple game. You gotta play top down, 226 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: you gotta tackle. We don't know if they're two wide 227 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: receivers are going to play there two starters at the 228 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: time of this recording. You know, Keenan Allen on the 229 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: COVID list, close contact with Mike Williams. What makes those 230 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: two guys difficult to cover? Obviously both very talented, but 231 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: both at the same time, very different receivers in terms 232 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: of how they approached the game. Yeah, I mean they're 233 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: too incredibly talented, and uh, you know they there are 234 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: very established receivers in this league. Uh Kenyan Allen He's 235 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: and he's a technician of a route runner. I think 236 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: he's probably the best in the league. UM. And what 237 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: he wants to do his craft, and you know he's 238 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: very intention about what he's He's going about in incredible hands, UM, 239 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: and so that you know, that's why he's been a 240 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: stud for so long, many times Pro Bowl or whatever 241 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: he is. UM. And then Mike Williams, I mean, I 242 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: mean he's just a jump ball guy. He's big, he's fast, 243 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: and he is a huge cast radius. And so when 244 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: you have two guys like that, you know, we really 245 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: got to do a lot UM, try to try to 246 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: mitigate them, UM and kind of play with them into 247 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: our system. All right. Then final question. You know made 248 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: the point that you like being in the boxing around 249 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: the line of screw mode, which means you might have 250 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: to deal with their running back. Austin Ekeler not only 251 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: is a runner, but as a receiver, Julian, he's an 252 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: excellent route runner. They use him in the red zone 253 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: a lot as a receiver. What makes him so dangerous 254 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: and what are the some of the things you guys 255 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: have to do to make sure he doesn't break open 256 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, I think we got routes to the ball. 257 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: He's he's very dynamic out of the backfield. Uh, it's 258 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: not just running, he said, catching the ball, and so 259 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: we gotta rally to the ball on defense and really, 260 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, good after him. Um you always. I mean, 261 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: for all these guys, you gotta really just know where 262 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: they're at and you can't let them play go by 263 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: where you're somebody's unaccounted for, um, because they're that dangerous. 264 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: And so he's one of those guys. You know, we 265 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: he's a target and we gotta really just play a 266 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: complete game and fleet uh well round the defense to 267 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: really try to make it him. You know, I should 268 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: have told you this before we started. I'm gonna put 269 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: you on the spot anyway. So Joe Judge, nickname you 270 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: duct tape? Do you have a good nickname for head coach? 271 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: Joe Judge? Oh gosh, that's a good one. Uh, oh 272 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: my gosh. What do I have for him? Let's see 273 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: he's uh, I'll say it's called Joe a pineapple, um pointable. 274 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: You know, you might seem a little hard on the 275 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: outside and all tough. You know, heart exterior. On the 276 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: inside he's just as soft as the rest of us. Uh. 277 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: And so that's kind of style to like tell a 278 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: lot of people you can see that hard exterior, um, 279 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: there a little rough from the edges, you can say, um, 280 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: But the inside, you know, he's soft in a compassionate 281 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: sort of way. Sweethead coach, Joe Judge, I love it exactly. 282 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: We gotta start in that coin. See, I love you. 283 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: You're embracing the factor on the West Coast, Julian by 284 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: going with Pineapple. I appreciate that, you know. Yeah, I'll 285 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: take it. Good stuff, man. Uh, good luck on Sunday 286 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: when you take on the Chargers. We'll talk to you soon, 287 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: all right, thank you. That's Gihnant's defensive back. Julian love 288 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: a Giant Fans securire season tickets for two today for 289 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: only one. Limited seats are available. Speak with the Giants 290 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: ticket representative now and become a season ticket member by 291 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: calling eight eight n y G nineteen. All right now 292 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: for an in depth look at the l A Charger 293 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: is a very tough opponent. It's Matt money Smith from 294 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: the NFL Network and the Chargers, played by play Man. 295 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: He's joined by Paul Detino and Lance Meadow. Giants continue 296 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: their two game road trip this week as they visit 297 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: the seven and five Chargers, who are in second place 298 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: of the a f C West in l A. To 299 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: get more into what to expect from the Chargers, were 300 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: now joined by their radio play by play announcer Matt 301 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: money Smith. Matt, you've got Lance Meadow, Paul Detino here, 302 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate the time today, Hope poll as well. How 303 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: are things on your end? Well, you know, since they 304 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: are on their rotation of a win instead of a 305 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: loss over these last six in the rows they've alternated 306 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: every week, I'm doing okay today coming off that win. 307 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely they're building or at least trying to off the 308 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: win against the Cincinnati Bengals. And I want to get 309 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: into the alternating wins losses, but I want to start 310 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: with probably the biggest news of the week, Matt, and 311 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: that is the fact that there's some COVID issues. Keenan 312 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: Allen tested positive. Mike Williams is now a close contact. 313 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: I know we don't know their status is as the 314 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: time that we're recording this, but in the event there 315 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: without one or two of them, what are their feelings 316 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: of Jalen Guiden and Joshua Palmer, and those guys perhaps 317 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: being asked to step up this week, I would say, 318 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, dramatic, dramatic drop off. Um. The just the 319 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: implicit trust and the relationship that Herbert has with Keenan, 320 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: uh is that of you know, premiere quarterback, premier wide receiver. 321 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: It just kind of take your favorite duo, whether it's 322 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray d Hop, I mean, it's that level Rogers, 323 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: h Davante Adams. That's kind of how these two have 324 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: have kind of built their relationship early on. I mean 325 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: it's special. And when you look at third down catches, 326 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: catches on third down, they go for first downs. There's 327 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: not a better duo in the league. So if Keenan, 328 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, can't, can't get out of this and be 329 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: out there, just not having him is going to be 330 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: a huge loss. Because the idea is josh Palmer plays 331 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: I think at least collegiately. When you look at kind 332 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: of the way he played where he lined up in 333 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: college at Tennessee, a similar style and we saw that 334 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: in training campus Keenan UM, So who knows, maybe without 335 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: Keenan out there, you know, he's gonna be all right, 336 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: But that's a huge loss in and of itself. Mike 337 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Williams has been the big plague threat all season long. 338 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw it against the Bengals this past week. 339 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: How explosive this offense can be when he's got it 340 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: going forty seven yard catcher, forty one yard catch. I mean, 341 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: he's already got about a hundred and fifty two hundred 342 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: yards more than he ever has in a single season, 343 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: so that relationship has developed. He tied for the league 344 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: league and receiving touch receiving touchdowns. So I think you're 345 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: probably looking at losing. If I had to put a 346 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: number on, I'm guessing half your targets that you've had 347 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: through these, uh these twelve games so far this season. 348 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a huge loss. Matt. Let's assume 349 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: for a second that they don't get those snaps out 350 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: of their top perceiving threats. Does this mean that Eckler 351 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: becomes a guy who's got to even shoulder more of 352 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: the offensive burden. Look, he's one of the most talented 353 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: all around backs in the league. I don't think anybody 354 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: would dispute that at all. But I noticed that the 355 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: charges have been particularly careful. He's never had twenty carries 356 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: in a game. They do get him a lot of 357 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: targets in the passing game, but they tend to from 358 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: what I could see, they don't necessarily want to make 359 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: him quote the workhorse kind of guy, who's really going 360 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: to have to carry too much a load. Yeah. I 361 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: think the one thing Paul about Eckler is he never 362 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: goes down on first contact. He is so good at 363 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: shedding that first tackler or absorbing contact and still making 364 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: a positive play if he say, behind the line of 365 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: scrimmage about getting extra yards, no matter where he said. So, 366 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: I think what happens with Austin is, uh, it's not 367 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: that he can't handle the load. It's just the style 368 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: of his game is one in which he's taking a 369 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: beating uh throughout the game. So I don't know if 370 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: they would tell him, uh, I don't know if there's 371 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: a way to just kind of get him outside a 372 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: little bit more, try to avoid some of that contact. 373 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: But I think that's the big problem with Heckler is, 374 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: you know, every one of his touches, every one of 375 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: his you know, being a carrier receptionist typically met with 376 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: multiple defenders getting shots on him and he just doesn't 377 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: go down. Um. What I think what probably happen is 378 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: you see a lot of tight end action. You know, 379 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: they have some really talented matchup issue tight ends. I 380 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: think you'd start seeing a lot more too tight end 381 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: sets with a far um trade. I wouldn't even suspect 382 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: would see three tight end sets. You know, get Parum, 383 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: Cook and McKitty out there is your blocking tight end. Um. 384 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: They just have not gotten production out of that. Second 385 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: running back, Justin Jackson has been the closest thing to 386 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: it um, but he just can't stay healthy. So I 387 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: think that's the one issue with with trying to lean 388 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: on Eckler too much. If I had to guess that, 389 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: I think you'd probably see a lot of Donald parm 390 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Um and a lot of two tight end sets out there. 391 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Is is how they would try to relieve that, as 392 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: opposed to just leaning on Dighton Um and Josh Palmer, 393 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: well Matt. One guy they have gotten consistent production out 394 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: of is their quarterback. Justin Herbert had a fantastic rookie year. 395 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Second year seems to pretty much be picking up where 396 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: he left off. Maybe the interceptions are a little bit 397 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: up there. But now that he's working with a new 398 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, what has jumped out to you about what 399 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi and Brandon Stanley, who's a former quarterback, have 400 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: done to continue to get that production out of Justin 401 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Herbert in year two you even though it's a brand 402 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: new scheme. Yeah, I think the one thing that actually 403 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: believe in Atlantis that they were able to keep those 404 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: shot plays. You know, you kind of you saw what 405 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: Lombardi has done all those years with Sean Payton and 406 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: in New Orleans and you know, and you even heard 407 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: it from him in training camp, you know, on the 408 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: Chargers digital feeds on YouTube and stuff. Is him saying, hey, man, 409 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: just look it's right there in front of take it. 410 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Let up. I do the work and get the yards 411 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: after catching. That's fine, But when you've got someone as 412 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: talented as Justin Herbert, you know, what's really been the 413 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: difference in this offense from a lot of the other 414 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: offenses in the league is the ability for that explosive 415 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: play to just cut the legs out from under a 416 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: defense and really dishearten them, uh and score quick. So 417 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: I'm happy to see that that's stuck around and and 418 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: they seem to time them up really well. Now he 419 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: hasn't always um kind of connected, and his receivers have 420 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: done him no favors at times with some drops that 421 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: that seemed to be an issue this season, that that 422 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: weren't quite there last year, and they're trying to figure 423 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: that out. But I'm happy that that it's not quite 424 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: the exact same offense. We see what this aint and 425 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: there is a lot of that let's take advantage of 426 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: the arm strength. I think the other thing, um that 427 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: you see obviously is the addition of his athleticism and 428 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: his legs these last three weeks UM, where it seems 429 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: as though they probably implored him to make a concerted 430 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: effort to be that second runner, like like, if it's 431 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: not gonna be round Tree or Kelly or Jackson, it's 432 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: probably gonna have to be you don't take any unnecessary shots, 433 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: but you see it, go get it, um. And it 434 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: was evidenced out there in the last few weeks of 435 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: how he was able to do that specifically and kill 436 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: a lpia. He really got after it. And this past 437 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: week to you know, a couple of huge games when 438 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Herbert's able to break free and it's not lance enough. 439 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: I call him design runs, but I think they're they're 440 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: calculated before, they're calculated pre snap, like, hey, if I 441 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: see this, this is my plan. We're seeing more and 442 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: more of that, and I think it's just added another 443 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: element to this offense that makes it so much more 444 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: difficult to defend that we did not see last year. Matt, 445 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: how much of that do you think was necessitated by 446 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: what they may feel is a bit of an inconsistent 447 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: offensive line. I know the right side of the line's 448 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: had some trouble with pass pro and we know they've 449 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: got the rookie Slater over at left tackle. Yeah, you know, 450 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Slater has been exceptional. I think if if Slater wasn't 451 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, Paul, I think he'd be in the 452 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: conversation for Rookie of the Year. That's how good he's been. Um. 453 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: He gave up a sack last week to Hendrickson, but 454 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: that was the only negative play he gave up against 455 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushers in the league. He 456 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: did not have another pressure, he didn't have another tackle 457 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: for loss. It was one sack that entire game, and 458 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: for the most part he's been pitching shutouts and he 459 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: gets no help. All the tight end help is going 460 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: to the other side, so that left side um with 461 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: Filer healthy, and then when you add in the center 462 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Corey Linsley, those two guys that picked up in free agency, 463 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: it's been so good. So you'll see a lot of 464 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: the action, you know, basically accounting for how good that's 465 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: been and really how just inconsistent. You know, Scope Field 466 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: was in place of Oda Boosh. That was a huge loss. 467 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: That really wasn't I think reported. Um it was a 468 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: little bit under reported because it's a guard in the case, 469 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: he's not a huge name, that man is. That line 470 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: looks so much different without him at right guard. They 471 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: were able to kind of mask sort of trying to 472 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: help out Storm Norton as much as they can with 473 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, chip protection or a tight end over there. 474 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: But with two of them now, two backups, it's it's 475 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: been an issue. And I do think that that the 476 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: running has been predicated on that. A lot of cutting 477 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: the field and half and have them rolling you know, 478 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: in that direction, has has been in account for the 479 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: deficiencies there. But I'll tell you overall, and I think 480 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: that's the one issue it's been so inconsistent. Some games 481 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: have been really good, you know, other games, Uh, they've 482 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: been really bad. Against the Denver Broncos it was terrible. Um. 483 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was the most pressure that they faced 484 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: all univers coming right up the gut because they had 485 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: a backup guard out there on the left side, and 486 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: Callum that day as well. So I think with Filer 487 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: back it's been a lot better. Just because you have 488 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: an entire half of that line where you feel good about, 489 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: you can just kind of pay attention to the other side. 490 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: There we're talking with that Money Smith. Chargers radio play, 491 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: I play an ouncer as the Chargers will collide with 492 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: the Giants this Sunday, Man, I want to switch gears 493 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball. You talked about 494 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: maybe the ups and downs on the offensive line. I 495 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: think you could really say the same thing about the 496 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. But once the tisty I 497 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: want to focus on is their thirty one in the 498 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: league against the run. They're giving up a hundred forty 499 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: one rushing yards per game. How much for people that 500 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: haven't really paid close attention to the Chargers. Is that 501 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: a product of the personnel struggling versus what the scheme 502 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: is asking them to do in terms of not giving 503 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: up the big plays on the back end, the orlan um. 504 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: And the one thing I would add is coming out 505 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: of the bye it has changed dramatically. Drama. I don't 506 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: know what happened in the bye week. And because you know, 507 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: they've still been down some personnel. Limball Joseph is Mus 508 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: who you know very well as miss um and and 509 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: that was a huge loss, and so he'll be back 510 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: this week. That's gonna help. Jerry Hillery was kind of 511 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: a wall though. You know in that Dallas game they 512 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: ran at him every single will play and absolutely gashed 513 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers. So a lot of this was not quite 514 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: getting scheme. It was personnel, but it has all but 515 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: been an emitied for the most part. I know the 516 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Broncos got after him quite a bit, but I mean 517 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, he he had nothing as longest run last 518 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: week was ten yards that the I think the average 519 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: down a distance on third down for the Bengals was 520 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: third and eighth a half. Because of how good they 521 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: were against the run. I want to say since thereby 522 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: that thirty first number has changed a sixth in the league. 523 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: So either they're figuring out the scheme or they're using 524 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: different personnel. Brandon Pajoco has been activated out the practice squad. 525 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: He's been great in the rotation. Joe Gaziano another guy 526 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: that came into fill in when Tillary had to go 527 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: down with COVID. He's been very good. So I think 528 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: I think it's considerably different than that number suggests. And 529 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: they were so bad and a couple of those games 530 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: that it's kind of skewed what I think the true 531 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: story is. But if I had to put it on 532 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: one versus the other, I think it's more scheme than personnel. Um, 533 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: just because I feel like they've remedied the personnel with 534 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: this new rotation. And also I'll tell you, just to 535 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: make a long answer longer length fit the linebacking corps, 536 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: I think has been adjusted accordingly. I think Kenneth Murray 537 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: really struggled, and now that they found Kaiser White and 538 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: trank Will for the majority of their snaps, almost all 539 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: of them. Trank Will is so good at run fills 540 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: um and have an adderly backup high at that pretty 541 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: safety Spotillas as well. They've been playing Derwin James closer 542 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. So I think it's also 543 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: the back end that they've adjusted to help out with 544 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: those run fits and run fills, and and that's made 545 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: a huge difference the last I'd take four games. Let 546 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: me ask you about the pass wash because I think 547 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: that they're a middle of the pack kind of pass 548 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: wash team. But we all know that Bosa can be 549 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: a one man wrecking crew. What is his status after 550 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: they gave him that week off, after the the the 551 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: evaluation for the concussion, and how do you see the 552 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: Charges playing this given that they will be probably facing Glennon, 553 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: although they could be facing rom who would be making 554 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: his first ever NFL appearance. Well, you know, when I 555 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: saw the From thing, I thought back to the Buffalo game. 556 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: I think it was three three years four years ago 557 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: with Nate Peterman when he made his first start and 558 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: they had five sacks in the first half and Botha 559 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: just went absolutely berserk on him. Um, that's the first 560 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: thing that came to my mind with From especially with 561 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: Staley and what he was doing last week. He really 562 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: started to see him get after it to flex his 563 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: defensive muscles. I mean he's got you know, he's dropping 564 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: defensive tackles into coverage and he's running double safety blitzes 565 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: that got the borrow and he just it's almost like 566 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: his creativeness sort of showed up last week for the 567 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: first time because he was down both after nine snaps 568 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: and it was the most sacks they've had in a 569 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: game six I think in the last three years. It 570 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: was the most pressures they had in the game. It 571 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: was the most hories, the most kids, and that was 572 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: without Bosa save nine snaps. Um. I think if it's 573 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: blooding or if it's if it's from you know, either way, 574 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna benefit the Chargers. They have struggled 575 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: with mobile quarterbacks, Um, you know, either getting after it 576 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: a little too hard and allowing that quarterback to break contain. Um. 577 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: Channon no Wos who has really come on and he's 578 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of talked about how the scheme was a little 579 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: bit troublesome for him. Early on, he had some other 580 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: things that he was dealing with, and and then he 581 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: was good against the Bengals two sack, won a strip, 582 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: sack force bumble that he recovered himself. UM. I'd say 583 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: the last two or three weeks he's he's really turned 584 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: into that compliment that they had hoped he would rise 585 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: to be with the departure of Melvin Ingram opposite Joey 586 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: um And and Bose has been exceptional this year. I 587 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: know the sack totals aren't huge, but man, you look 588 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: at pressures and hits and I think he's probably top 589 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: three in both of those categories. I think the other 590 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: rotation pieces behind him haven't been great. I think they 591 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: expected more out of fact Roll and he's just been 592 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, on you know, average one week, below average 593 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: the next. I'm sure they'd like to see a little 594 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: more out of him. You know, last week, I'll tell 595 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: you for all the one guy that really raise his 596 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: hand was the fourth round pick out to du Chris 597 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: rump Uh. He ended up with a sack. He got 598 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback hit as well, and they they set all 599 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: along when he starts to get his body to catch 600 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: up to his brain, that he's an exceptionally good study 601 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: and he's picked up on everything. He's just a little 602 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: light um, a little bit small, and they're saying he's 603 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: getting stronger and his body is starting to catch up 604 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: with what he sees and what his skill set is. 605 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: So I think, much like I said, with the run defensive. 606 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Feels like this thing was really complicated and in a 607 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: struggle for a lot of those guys to figure out 608 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: what they were trying to do. But it seems as 609 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: though they're really starting to hit their stride these last 610 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Matt, speaking of the rookie class before 611 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: we let you go, we started off with the wide receivers, 612 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: some question marks with covid Chris Harris Jr. In the secondary. 613 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: He was also deemed the close contact and Assante Samuel Jr. 614 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: Who I was referencing that rookie class. He I know, 615 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: has missed the last few games due to a concussion. 616 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: If Harris has to miss this game, the return of 617 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: Assante Samuel, what does that do for the secondary and 618 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: how impressed has he been in terms of what he's 619 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: been able to provide. We'll say, um, Chris Harris had 620 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: the interception last week, but the defense is not the 621 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: same without Assante out there. They just they don't have 622 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: the death. Uh. Tavon Campbell is picked on regularly. You 623 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: saw it even last week. You know you think about 624 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: all the turnovers, all those sacks, all those pressures, and 625 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: yes they were I think fift on third down the Bengals. Um. 626 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: That's been the big issue with this team is the 627 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: lack of death in the secondary and their number one corner, 628 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: Michael Davis really struggling to pick up this man coverage. 629 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: That last year he was you know, in gust Bradley's 630 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, single high cover three and he was fine. 631 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: But they're asking him to play a ton of man 632 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: this year and he's been given up a lot of 633 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: big play. So Assante has been exceptional. He has been 634 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: their best corner, no doubt. And you know, I think 635 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: what you're seeing is a lot of Derwin James and 636 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: coverage or even mixing in some not natterally in coverage 637 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: just because they're they're dealing with it when a South 638 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: they using out there. So if he's able to go, 639 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: I think that change things, changes things dramatically. If he's 640 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: not and Chris Harris's down, holy cow. That's that's the 641 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: one issue on this team. I mean, I think, ahead 642 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: of the old line, ahead of the you know, run defense, 643 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: it's the back end, particularly the corners, because there is 644 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: not a lot of depth there and man, it's been 645 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: it's been a rough go for Tavon Campbell. You give 646 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: him credit for scooping that bumble up and score, and 647 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: he's got a couple of horse bumbles. But just in 648 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: terms of coverage, uh, it's it's been rough and it 649 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: will be even more interesting depending on who the Giants 650 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: obviously start Hunder's center against that Chargers secondary. He is 651 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Matt Muney Smith, the Chargers radio play by play announcer, 652 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: as the Giants will visit l A to go up 653 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: against the Chargers this Sunday. Matt can't thank you enough 654 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: to greatly appreciate the time of the inside and we 655 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: look forward to Sunday's game. Thanks again, well, Matt, you 656 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: gotta guy. Thanks Paul, thanks lamp. I appreciate it. That's 657 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: Matt money Smith. As a reminder, Giant fans, you can 658 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: take in all the action of Giants football from your 659 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: own private suite. Sweets are great way to entertain the 660 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: family and friends who are rooting on your Giants. Right 661 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: here MetLife Stadium speak with a Giant Sweet representative now 662 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: by calling n y G nineteen. All right, we closed 663 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: out the show. As always, Bob Papa had a chance 664 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: to talk to Giants head coach at Joe Judge. As always, 665 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: we're joined by the head coach of the New York Giants, 666 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: Joe Judge and coach Today you play the Los Angeles Chargers. 667 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: First of all, talk about your week in Arizona, in 668 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: Tucson and and some of the things that you feel 669 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: like you got accomplished with your ball club. Well, look, 670 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a great opportunity and time you play kind 671 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: of back to back games a large distance, and there's 672 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to get out to the West 673 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: coast a little bit earlier, you know, staying some warm 674 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: weather a little bit, you know, woman that would be 675 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: in Jersey's last week, get the guys you know, around 676 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: each other a lot, almost recreated a training camp type 677 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: of field and had some real productive practice, got the 678 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: guys moving, had a great week of prep. So before 679 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: you get on field tonight, coach um obviously, um, you know, 680 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon had to go through the protocols. Um, just 681 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about especially his play in 682 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: the first half of the game last week. I mean, 683 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: you threw the ball pretty well. What are some of 684 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: the things that you're looking to build upon from last week? Well, 685 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: things we just put right there is you know, Mike 686 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: does have the ability to go ahead and throw a 687 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: good ball, you know, put on some receivers, and we 688 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: gotta make sure that we know capitalizing the opportunity when 689 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: it's in front of us, you know, all across the board. 690 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: But I like the command. Mike has a line of scrimmages. 691 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: Experience shows he does a great job throughout the week 692 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: really working in preparation in terms of understanding the system 693 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: and we're trying to accomplish you know, I thought Mike 694 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: did a decent job last week and really managing a 695 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: lot of pressure, you know in some Blitzer situations where 696 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: mine was bringing one week at blockers by numbers, and 697 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: he did a good job and you know, make some 698 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: good accurate plays, convert a lot of third and longs 699 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: right there having to throw up his back foot, and 700 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: that's just you know what kind of plays you need 701 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: to play against, you know, schemes like that. You know, 702 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: we keep on work with Mike. He has doen a 703 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: good job all year in our system as far as 704 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: staying ready and keep on growing with things that you 705 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: really played a his strength and what he's coming for 706 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: with coach Um. You know, last week you had in 707 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: order to an amount of third and longs. Um, you 708 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: did hit some of them, but can you talk about 709 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: working on trying to find better productivity in the early downs? Uh, 710 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: the stand schedule, Yeah, it's a key right there, and 711 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: we gotta make sure that we eliminate, you know, any 712 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: mistakes that kind of throw us behind. And obviously that's 713 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: any kind of negative play. You know, it's an overall, 714 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: the team been pretty good in terms of the penalties. 715 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Eliminate those as of late, you know, turnover wise, we 716 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: had the one down the field, but really, you know, 717 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: we've gotta eliminate some things, some drops, negative runs, we 718 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: gotta liminate any kind of you know, negative places gonna 719 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: put behind. But early down success, especially against the Dolphins 720 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: or even the charges this week, it's critical and how 721 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna operate, because if you get these guys in 722 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: third and long situations, they can pin the rear backs 723 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: in your ears back and come. You know, it's not 724 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: about some magic wand scheme. It's about getting out there 725 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: and just take what's in front of you and moving 726 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: the sticks, not being afraid to take the profit, create 727 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: some catching runs of our backs, tight ends when we 728 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: get a chance, push it down the field. Take your shot, coach, 729 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: is that one of the things that you've preached to 730 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: your team about his patients, because if you do little 731 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: things along the way, it's gonna open up the big things. 732 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: And don't try to hit home runs necessarily if it's 733 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: not there, but because the single is good or a 734 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: walk is good, and eventually the big things will come. Yeah, 735 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: I'd say, and that analogy right there, we're talking about, Hey, 736 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: just keep getting on base, just keep the moving, staying productive. 737 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: And we talk all the time the phrase we used 738 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: to take the profit. You know, you look at some 739 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks will played this game. You know what, 740 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: if I'm want Peyton Manning, you know, Breeze Brady, those guys. 741 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: One thing to do a great job of is they 742 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: get back. They'll check their first reef, that ball is 743 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: coming out fast, that check down on the back, and 744 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna be continue to be productive of movement sticks 745 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 1: and whether you go ahead and early downs and getting 746 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: five yards on a checkdown or on a run, it's 747 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: productive in terms of keeping you more manageable, you know, 748 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: second out a third down situation. So that's uff. We 749 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: gotta go ahead and just keep on doing as a team, 750 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: we have opportunities. We're gonna keep calling things aggressively, you know, 751 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: and that's going to focus in terms of getting to 752 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: our players to help them make plays. I've seen a 753 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: lot of that and play call I've seen a lot 754 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, some of the setups we've had, 755 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: we got to go ahead and capitalize and opportunity in 756 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: front of so coach obviously going into the game last week, 757 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure that Miami has shown. What are 758 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: the Chargers different in how they try to attack an 759 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: imposing offense? Well, systematically they're different, but the theme is 760 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: still the same. You know, it's about really their front 761 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: four really getting after you. And they've got some really 762 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: good pass rusher on the edge. They'll bring some blitz 763 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: and you know they'll kind of combine up some of 764 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: his own pressures. But ultimately, for them, it's really about 765 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: their front four and have the show up that they 766 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: can be. You know, it all fuels it and the 767 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: secondary has success based on the rush getting to you. 768 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about what they bring to the 769 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: table offensively and what your defense has to be keyed 770 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: in on. Obviously, the quarterback is extremely talented, as you 771 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: studied him this week. What are some of the things 772 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: that he poses as a big threat to any defense 773 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: to meet with him? It's the extended plays. You know, 774 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: this guy can sit in the pocket and he throws 775 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: a very acrobol he can get out of his hand fast. 776 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: But really with him, you've got to prevent him from 777 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: rolling outside the pocket. Extending plays. It's a lot like 778 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: playing guy like a Ben Roethlisburg, where he's got the 779 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: arm to make every throw and he's a big, strong guy, 780 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: is tough to bring down. So the longer you let 781 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: him drift and escape the pressure, the more open receiver's 782 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna get in its big chunk plays down the field. 783 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: He can run it, he's capable, but he's really looking 784 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: to go and first of ball, you know, with a 785 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: past down the field and give him a chance. They 786 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: do a great job. And contested catches, so those are 787 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: the big place you've got el limit right there, gotta 788 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: do a good job getting after this guy. Put fresh 789 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: on the quarterback, and really it's about the three big 790 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: targets right there. You know, it's Williams, it's Evans, and 791 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: it's Eckler. You know, we'll see what Evans status is 792 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: along the way. But those are three top guys for 793 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: this team, and you just gotta understand what they're looking 794 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: for and how they want to go ahead and attack you. Coach, 795 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: we appreciate a couple of minutes. Best of luck against 796 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and uh, I know you're looking forward to 797 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: getting back east and I know you'd like to do 798 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: it with a victory in your hip pocket. Absolutely looking 799 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: forward to getting back home. 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