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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Sitting in for Clay and Buck today syndicated radio personality

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Speaker 1: Michael Berry.

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Speaker 2: And it's an honor to join you for this last hour.

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Speaker 2: What I'd like to do. I know we've got some

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Speaker 2: callers on the line. I want to add another Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court ruling of last week of great import to the mix,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll get to your calls that related to

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Speaker 2: a subject that the Supreme Court has been dealing with

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Speaker 2: with regard to university admissions in earnest going back to

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight, in what came to be known as

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Speaker 2: the Baky case be a Kke, where a white man

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Speaker 2: in his thirties had an AMCAT, which is their standardized score,

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Speaker 2: above a number of minority students, in fact, all the

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Speaker 2: minority students that were admitted to the medical school Davis

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Speaker 2: School of Medicine at the University of California. His GPA

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Speaker 2: wasable to everyone who was admitted, and his interview they

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Speaker 2: do an interview as well, came out very favorable. So

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Speaker 2: this guy had all to check the boxes to be

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Speaker 2: admitted and above the minority students who were admitted. It

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Speaker 2: was a white male in his thirties, and when he

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Speaker 2: wasn't admitted a second time, he sued and it turned

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Speaker 2: out that the university's excuse for why he hadn't been

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Speaker 2: admitted was he was too old. Because they couldn't admit

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Speaker 2: it was because he was too white. But what's the

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Speaker 2: purpose of having more black students? It's a zero sum game.

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Speaker 2: For every black student who's admitted, a white student doesn't

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Speaker 2: get admitted. Why is that better? Is it better that

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Speaker 2: we graduate more blacks than we would graduate if it

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Speaker 2: was blind scoring. I don't understand. And in the ruling

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Speaker 2: of the majority it was technically a plurality justice power

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Speaker 2: quoted the fourteenth Amendment, which was passed just after the

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Speaker 2: end of the Civil War. No State shall make or

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Speaker 2: enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities

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Speaker 2: of citizens of the United States. Nor shall any State

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Speaker 2: deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due

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Speaker 2: process of law. Here's the big one. Nor deny to

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Speaker 2: any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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Speaker 2: This is a state institution. The California University system that

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Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan was constantly fighting against because of such nonsense

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Speaker 2: as this. So you fast forward from ninety from seventy

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Speaker 2: eight to the Gruter decision in two thousand and three,

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Speaker 2: and in two thousand and three, then Justice Sandra da

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Speaker 2: O'Connor said that quote, the Court expects that twenty five

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Speaker 2: years from now, the use of racial preferences will no

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Speaker 2: longer be necessary to further the interest approved today. Well,

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Speaker 2: that was twenty years ago. I don't think at twenty

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Speaker 2: five years the use of racial preferences will no longer

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Speaker 2: be necessary to further the interest approved today. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that argument will sell with Alexandria Cassio Cortez or

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Then you fast forward to twenty sixteen in

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Speaker 2: a case involving the University of Texas, where the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court ruled four to three that the University of Texas

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Speaker 2: policy violated the fourteenth Amendment. Now, whether you're a lawyer

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Speaker 2: or not, you should immediately think four to three, why

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Speaker 2: Because I told you it was twenty sixteen in February

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Speaker 2: of that year before the ruling came down, Justice Scalia,

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Speaker 2: the greatest justice of my lifetime, passed away of a

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Speaker 2: heart attack, and Elena Kagan recused herself because of prior

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Speaker 2: involvement with that very case. Scalia would go on to

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Speaker 2: be replaced by Gorsich, Kavanaugh would replace Anthony Kennedy, and

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Speaker 2: Amy Coney. Barrett would replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who infuriated

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Speaker 2: the left by not stepping down while Barack Obama was

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Speaker 2: opening for Donald Trump to appoint the replacement. So Trump

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Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, Chief Justice John Roberts declared, the way

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Speaker 2: to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to

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Speaker 2: stop discriminating on the basis of race. But the interesting

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Speaker 2: part of this case, involving Harvard in North Carolina, particularly

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Speaker 2: against who were squealing the loudest were not the white kids.

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Speaker 2: It's the Asian American students. And as you may have

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Speaker 2: of color have to stick together. So what if you're

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Speaker 2: the valedictorian of your class. So what if you have

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Speaker 2: your extracurricular activity of choice is. So what if you

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Speaker 2: took on all these community programs of cleaning up the

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Speaker 2: So what if your scores are better than black kids?

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Speaker 2: You're Asian American and sorry, we already have too many

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Speaker 2: it's the blacks who paved the way for the Asian

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Speaker 2: Americans to come to this country. Wait, what how did

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Speaker 2: the blacks pave the way for the Asian Americans? But

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Speaker 2: the better question is most of these Asian Americans parents

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Speaker 2: came here as immigrants and they were raised here and

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Speaker 2: now they're the top students, not the bottom How is

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Speaker 2: it that you can live in this country for four, five, six,

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Speaker 2: Americans who come here. Because it's not about discrimination, it's

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Speaker 2: about culture and behavior. Look at who wins the Script's

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Speaker 2: spelling Bee every year. It's not black kids, it's not

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Speaker 2: it's kids from India. It's kids from India who before

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Speaker 2: quizzed by their momb and then they have violin practice

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Speaker 2: to go to Harvard, all of them. You will be

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Speaker 2: top in your class academically, you will learn the violin.

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Speaker 2: You will play tennis because that's a sport where you

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Speaker 2: don't get hit, and we're Asian Americans, we're not football players.

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Speaker 2: And you will be the top in the spelling bee

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Speaker 2: at least in your school, if not the state, and

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Speaker 2: onto the nationals. Well, isn't that an opportunity that every kid,

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Speaker 2: white or black or Hispanic has. It doesn't cost any

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Speaker 2: have to have famous parents. Literally anyone can do it.

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Speaker 2: Indians of every cast, of every rung on the hierarchical

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Speaker 2: but opportunity. Now, I'll also tell you they're probably not

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Speaker 2: coming to the Friday night drink fest. They're probably not

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Speaker 2: hanging out with the other kids for malts or beers

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Speaker 2: like football, baseball, basketball, that mean you're on a travel

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Speaker 2: team that take you away because they're focused on their academics. So,

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Speaker 2: now you're the admissions director at Harvard University and you

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Speaker 2: have the opportunity to decide who's going to come to

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Speaker 2: your university. I guess we have to go back to

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Speaker 2: the original question I asked in the first hour. What's

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Speaker 2: the point of the university? Do we want the students

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Speaker 2: to come here who've shown a propensity to study hard

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Speaker 2: and good good results. We'll take some of them, but

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Speaker 2: we also want some kids who are poor, particularly if

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Speaker 2: they're poor and black. We want some kids who don't

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Speaker 2: look like the Asian students. The New York Times put

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Speaker 2: diverse class of students, the medical School at UC Davis.

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Speaker 2: Remember you see Davis. That's the baky case, going back

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Speaker 2: to nineteen seventy eight. They've been discriminating a long time

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Speaker 2: to build a diverse class of students. The Medical School

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Speaker 2: at UC Davis ranks applicants by the disadvantages they have faced.

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Speaker 2: The disadvantage scale helped turn UC Davis into one of

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Speaker 2: the most diverse medical schools in the US. Pay what

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Speaker 2: so my dad's eighty three, my mom's seventy eight. Let's

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Speaker 2: say my dad has a heart attack and they bring

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Speaker 2: to introduce him our family doctor, says, mister Barry, this

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Speaker 2: is doctor Jones, and he's about to do this procedure

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Speaker 2: or your heart is a dangerous procedure. But I want

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Speaker 2: you to know. He was raised by a single mom

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Speaker 2: who was addicted to crack who was turning tricks in

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Speaker 2: their living room and nobody ever helped him with his homework,

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Speaker 2: and he was exposed to drug dealing on the front lawn. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but is he any good at a doctor? Mister Barry?

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Speaker 2: What kind of silly question would you ask?

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Speaker 1: Like that?

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Speaker 2: Does it matter? I told you that he overcame more

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Speaker 2: disadvantages than the top student in the class, who grew

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Speaker 2: and character and good judgment and hard work were rewarded.

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Speaker 2: But I still don't understand is this guy any good

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Speaker 2: interest story? Because human interest isn't going to fix my

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Speaker 2: heart or land this plane or take this submersible to

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about sociology or psychology here. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about doctors. You win and lose with doctors. They fix

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Speaker 2: you and you live, or they fail and you die.

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Speaker 2: What should the disadvantages they overcome have to do with

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Speaker 2: that nonsense? So now we ask the question of universities,

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Speaker 2: should get in and who should pay for it. One

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Speaker 2: Michael Berry in for Clay and Buck. Your calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael Berry in for Clay and Buck. They'll be

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Speaker 2: and Chris Christy will be their guest. Our first caller

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Speaker 2: from the town of Fruida, Colorado is Brad Europe. Sir,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, Bred? Can I stop you there? Bread? Are

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Speaker 2: you there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I gotta ask you how long have how long have

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Speaker 2: you lived in uh Fruda, Colorado?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Nineteen ninety seven? What is that? Twenty six years? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We here?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I gotta ask you. I gotta ask you

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Speaker 2: about Mike the Headless Chicken.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, absolutely, He's an icon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I looked it up during the break and

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Speaker 2: tell me if I got this right. Mike the Headless

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Speaker 2: Chicken is a chicken who lived for eighteen months after

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Speaker 2: his head was cut off. Lloyd Olson, the remover of

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Speaker 2: Mike's head, continued to give him food and water with

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Speaker 2: an eye dropper. He grew to be almost eight pounds.

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Speaker 2: Mike went on to tour the country as a side show.

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Speaker 2: A festival in his honor is held each May in Fruda, Colorado.

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Speaker 2: Is that still going on?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? It's about the three blocks from where I am

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Speaker 3: right now, downtown through to Colorado. My daughters used to

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Speaker 3: go see I'm dressed us as chickens. That's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I grew up in a town famous

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Speaker 2: for its crawfish festival and bum phillips. But I kind

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Speaker 2: of liked the Mike the headless chicken option. That's that's

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Speaker 2: pretty cool. Anyway, what do you call about my man?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, I called about the student loan bailout,

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Speaker 3: and you touched on so many points that just that

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Speaker 3: just drive me crazy because so many of those things,

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Speaker 3: you know, have affected me personally in my life. I

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Speaker 2: what you've been through, which is PTSD. If you'll email

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Speaker 2: me through our website Michael Berryshow dot com, or if

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Speaker 2: you have someone you love and care for, let's not

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Speaker 2: add them to the twenty to forty four veterans per

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Speaker 2: most recent conflicts. They served us. Now we serve them

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Speaker 2: to the phone lines. We go. Let's start with Steve

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Speaker 2: in Melbourne, Florida. Steve, you're up, sir.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Hey, Michael, quickly get into this thing with

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Speaker 4: the tuition. I think you guys are working on the

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Speaker 4: wrong end of the animal. I mean, you guys are

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Speaker 4: worried about the debt that they've already incurred without stopping

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Speaker 4: the debt of the future, and we need to mandatory

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Speaker 4: by law roll back the tuition levels back to the

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Speaker 4: year I'll pick one two thousand, okay, and anyone that

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Speaker 4: occurred debt in the last twenty five years that was

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Speaker 4: higher than that level. It comes out of the endowments

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Speaker 4: to pay it off, to pay off the difference that

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Speaker 4: they should have had. This thing is they've been increasing

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Speaker 4: their tuitions three, four or five times the amount of inflation,

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Speaker 4: and nobody did anything. What we did was we raised

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Speaker 4: the level that they the kids can get loans at. No, no,

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Speaker 4: that's not the answer. Lower that make that a lot lower,

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Speaker 4: like ninety percent lower, and then the kids can incur

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Speaker 4: the debt. And if you don't want to teach people,

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Speaker 4: you know at that level of tuition, then get out

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Speaker 4: of business. But you're not there to make a slush fund.

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Speaker 4: And the thing that hires all the incompetent boobs from

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Speaker 4: because we've created this endowment system that's corrupt and feeding

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Speaker 4: off the children.

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Speaker 2: But Steve, let me ask you a question. I don't

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Speaker 2: disagree with your notion tuition increases are insane, one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent agree. But let me ask you this. So economists

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Speaker 2: will tell you that demand for let's say a retail product,

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Speaker 2: a burger. Demand for a burger is elastic based on price, right,

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Speaker 2: and Thomas Soul and basic economics will tell you that

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Speaker 2: as consumers, we communicate through the pricing mechanism. In other words,

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Speaker 2: if I tell you I'll give you a half pound

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Speaker 2: burger for a dollar, you'd probably buy that all day long.

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Speaker 2: If I told you the same burger, i'd charge you

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Speaker 2: eighty bucks, you'd say you're crazy. So I would have

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Speaker 2: to drop that price down until the point in which

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Speaker 2: you accepted my offer. And maybe that's seven bucks for

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Speaker 2: a burger. Right. So, as the price of tuition increased,

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Speaker 2: the market was not elastic. It was inelastic. Students continued

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Speaker 2: to borrow more money. They continued to enroll in greater

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Speaker 2: numbers than ever before. Why Why did the students say,

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Speaker 2: I don't care how much it costs, I will take

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Speaker 2: on debt. I will do whatever it takes. I must

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Speaker 2: go to school no matter how much you charge me.

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Speaker 2: That's not how the marketplace is supposed to work. The

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Speaker 2: student perceives that there is something at that university that

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Speaker 2: they have to have, the golden Willy Wanka ticket. And

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Speaker 2: we as a society are guilty of convincing them of that.

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Speaker 2: And you know what else we're guilty of. We're guilty

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Speaker 2: ourselves of saying, if you want to apply for this job,

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Speaker 2: here are the minimum characteristics a college degree. Why do

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Speaker 2: you know why? Because years ago companies understood from their

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Speaker 2: legal counsel that you can't choose who you want to choose.

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Speaker 2: You have to have some basic factors in there that

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Speaker 2: allow you to weed out things. So they started playing

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Speaker 2: games with all of this. People wanted some way to

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Speaker 2: sort through the applicants, right, But why did they do that?

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Speaker 2: Why is it that people who don't have a degree

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Speaker 2: themselves will demand that they won't hire somebody unless they

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Speaker 2: have a degree. That seems silly. You see, there's a

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Speaker 2: whole cultural phenomenon, an absolute tsunami of endorsement for this

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Speaker 2: ridiculous notion that somehow a college degree changes who you are.

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Speaker 2: And I would ask everybody, what did college do for

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Speaker 2: you that you couldn't do for yourself? How did it

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Speaker 2: change you? How did it make you a better employee?

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Speaker 2: Or did it? Abraham Lincoln never went to school, never

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Speaker 2: went to college or law school for that matter. It's

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Speaker 2: been a distinct honor claim and bucker out tomorrow. The'll

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Speaker 2: be back with you on Wednesday. Christi is their guest.

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Speaker 2: You can communicate directly with me through my website at

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Speaker 2: Michael Berryshow dot com, Greg, Mike, Ali, Rachel, theentire team.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for this incredible honor to speak

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Speaker 2: to this massive audience of great patriots. Have a wonderful

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Speaker 2: Fourth of July tomorrow, and remember the cause behind it,

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Speaker 2: our declaration of independence and the founding of this wonderful

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Speaker 2: nation we call home. It's worth fighting for