Speaker 1: Where are that because you aren't on Alvarez.
Speaker 2: He's still a little bit away, Like I'd be surprised
Speaker 2: if you see him this weekend against the Mariners. But
Speaker 2: with the Astros, who knows they could activate him today
Speaker 2: and surprise all of us.
Speaker 3: Here we got.
Speaker 4: We're back with Chandler Rome from the Athletic and of
Speaker 4: course Crush City Territory as well, your host of the
Speaker 4: show that you should check out all about the Houston Astros. Chandler,
Speaker 4: great to see you and let's just start nice in
Speaker 4: general with the shows. I feel like we haven't talked
Speaker 4: about them enough. Best part of the twenty twenty five
Speaker 4: Astros right now and worst.
Speaker 3: Part is.
Speaker 2: The best part's Hunter Brown and that's kind of without.
Speaker 2: That's tough to debate. Their bullpen's been sneaky good. I
Speaker 2: say sneaky good. I think they have the best bullpeny
Speaker 2: Ari and baseball. But Hunter Brown is the best pitcher
Speaker 2: in baseball right now in my opinion. He did not
Speaker 2: have a great start yesterday at steinbren Or Field. The
Speaker 2: jet stream and right field and the small dimensions did
Speaker 2: not help him, but he was due a clunker. I
Speaker 2: think he gave up five runs and five, and that
Speaker 2: raised his ERA to a huge two point zero four.
Speaker 2: He has been the epitome of an ace. He's been
Speaker 2: everything that this team has needed and more.
Speaker 3: He is the guy.
Speaker 2: He and Fromberveldez are keeping this thing afloat and really
Speaker 2: stabilizing a pitching staff that's had a ton of injuries
Speaker 2: so far. So it's it's easy to say that Hunter
Speaker 2: Brown's probably the best thing about the Astros right now.
Speaker 2: The worst is a lineup. They are underperforming as an offense.
Speaker 2: Their off season acquisition one of them, Christian Walker, has
Speaker 2: has really really scuffled.
Speaker 3: Jose Altuve is.
Speaker 2: In the middle of one of the worst thirty five
Speaker 2: game stretches of his career. Gordon Alvarez is still in
Speaker 2: the IL with a hand injury. And all that being said,
Speaker 2: they knew coming into the season that this lineup was
Speaker 2: going to be a bat or too short, given that
Speaker 2: they let Alex Bregman walk, they traded Kyle Tucker. So
Speaker 2: when those guys aren't producing, when Alvarez isn't on the field,
Speaker 2: and Altuve and Walker are scuffling, inherently, the lineup's just
Speaker 2: just not going to It's not going to function. They
Speaker 2: have a six ninety five team ops us right now,
Speaker 2: they're slugging three seventy eight.
Speaker 3: As a team.
Speaker 2: It's not a deep lineup. It's not a lineup that
Speaker 2: is giving Joe a spot of many options either, because
Speaker 2: as we speak right now, they are carrying uh. They
Speaker 2: have fourteen position players, twelve of them are right handed,
Speaker 2: and their only two semblances of balance are switch hitting
Speaker 2: backup catcher Victor Karattini and left handed hitting third catcher
Speaker 2: Sasar Salazar, who, since he got called up for Jordan Alvarez,
Speaker 2: has not played in a game. So Joe has very
Speaker 2: little he can do to like mix the lineup up
Speaker 2: look wise, Like you know, opposing managers can just send
Speaker 2: every right handed reliever they have out there. Because the
Speaker 2: Astros have no recourse, they can't create a platoon advantage,
Speaker 2: they can't create any sort of late game, you know,
Speaker 2: advantage situations, because this is a poorly constructed roster and
Speaker 2: it's a lineup that they knew coming in was going
Speaker 2: to be thin, and the guys that they.
Speaker 3: Are paying to produce are not producing.
Speaker 5: Not going to any new guys first, but going to
Speaker 5: HO two. Is the lack of protection more evident in
Speaker 5: ol two a's at bats throughout the short season so far,
Speaker 5: or is it a sign of regression that al two
Speaker 5: as may be hitting that that little bump beer where
Speaker 5: he's gonna have to make an adjustment.
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of both. Eric.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not had he did not have much protection,
Speaker 2: still doesn't. But they have slowly moved him down in
Speaker 2: the batting order. He he he asked out of the
Speaker 2: leadoff spot about three weeks ago, seeded that to Jeremy Pania,
Speaker 2: who's having a great year. And then a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago, Joe spot of moving down the third in
Speaker 2: the batting order, trying to spark something a little bit,
Speaker 2: and I mean actions kind of speak louder than words
Speaker 2: at this point that they keep finding ways to get
Speaker 2: him down a little bit. He's Jose al Tuova. They're
Speaker 2: not going to abandon him. They're not gonna not run
Speaker 2: him out there every day. You know, I was joking
Speaker 2: on Crush City earlier that we were taught we were
Speaker 2: having this debate and Reddick and I joke that, you know,
Speaker 2: they play a four game series against the Mariners this weekend,
Speaker 2: he'll probably get like thirteen hits in those four games
Speaker 2: and make us all look stupid for you know, talking
Speaker 2: about his demise if you will. But you look at
Speaker 2: the Savant page right now, it doesn't look good. It's
Speaker 2: a lot of blue. He's hitting one ninety against fastballs
Speaker 2: against four seemers this year. He hit three h eight
Speaker 2: against four seemers last year. His bat speed is down
Speaker 2: from his career from other points in his career. His
Speaker 2: ground ball rate is very up. His line drive rate
Speaker 2: is one of the lowest line drive rates of his career.
Speaker 2: There's not much under the hood that says it's nearing
Speaker 2: or getting better. There's bad luck, but again, he's Jose
Speaker 2: al Tuve. They're not giving up on him. He's gonna
Speaker 2: run out there every day and they they have faith
Speaker 2: in him more than anyone that he's gonna find a
Speaker 2: way to turn it around.
Speaker 1: Where's your on Avares? Where's yourd On Alvarez? Because we
Speaker 1: did a whole thing last week. I think it was
Speaker 1: that he didn't do interviews in Texas and he missed
Speaker 1: this and he's doing this and they don't know what's
Speaker 1: wrong with him, Like where are the he?
Speaker 2: Because ord On Avares, Well, I'll give you jord on credit.
Speaker 2: He did do an interview in Tampa on the first
Speaker 2: day of the trip. In Tampa, I was not there,
Speaker 2: so I was not in the interview, but reading the
Speaker 2: quotes that he gave, it sounds like he was pretty frustrated,
Speaker 2: just that he didn't think it would take this long.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, he said it was something
Speaker 2: that has been bothering him for a while. He has
Speaker 2: had hand issues in the past. If you cover the Astros,
Speaker 2: or if you follow the Astros for any length of time,
Speaker 2: you understand that they are not going to tell you
Speaker 2: much about injuries. They're not going to be specific about
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, and they've lost all benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt from their fans, from people that cover them,
Speaker 2: They've lost all benefit of the doubt when when they
Speaker 2: start talking about injuries at this point. So at this point,
Speaker 2: anything they say about him, like I just kind of
Speaker 2: let go in one ear and out the other, like
Speaker 2: I'll when he's back, he'll be back. So I can't
Speaker 2: really take much that they say now with a ton
Speaker 2: of merit. But if you believe what they say, he's
Speaker 2: got a muscle strain at the top of his hand.
Speaker 2: He is still swinging a bat, but he does still
Speaker 2: feel some discomfort while swinging the bat, that's what they say.
Speaker 2: So he has not progressed to hitting VP off the feet.
Speaker 2: On the field, he's taken like soft toss and tea work,
Speaker 2: but he's still a little bit away, Like I'd be
Speaker 2: surprised if you see him this weekend against the Mariners.
Speaker 2: But with the Astros, who knows they could activate him
Speaker 2: today and surprise all of us.
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Speaker 5: Can you give us another example besides the Jordon thing,
Speaker 5: because Kyle Tucker last year had a contusion and then
Speaker 5: we found out right when he was coming back, Oh,
Speaker 5: it was a fracture, but that was three four months later.
Speaker 5: Is there other examples?
Speaker 2: I mean it's more and look, I'm not here and
Speaker 2: aj Kratz like you guys played like I'm not here,
Speaker 2: like seeking like medical records of players, like I don't
Speaker 2: want to know what medicines they're on. I don't want
Speaker 2: Like we're not asking for much here. But the clarity
Speaker 2: that they provide is non existent, and the prognoses they
Speaker 2: give is usually it exceeds what they say, or it's
Speaker 2: not all the way true, like the lack of just
Speaker 2: alignment and communication. It has been something that has now
Speaker 2: spanned three general managers, it's spanned three field managers, so
Speaker 2: this is not something that is new this year. It's
Speaker 2: something that has been for a while. You look at
Speaker 2: their guys, their pitchers that have undergone arm surgery and
Speaker 2: their return to play. Luis Garcia had Tommy John surgery
Speaker 2: I want to say, about fourteen to fifteen months ago,
Speaker 2: and he's had a number of setbacks, not even thrown
Speaker 2: off a mound yet. Lance McCullers, we've been through how
Speaker 2: many setbacks he had. Dana Brown admitted last year that
Speaker 2: they rushed JP Frantz back from a shoulder injury that
Speaker 2: caused him to tailor the capsule in his shoulder and
Speaker 2: that needed a repair a surgery. James Klick, the former
Speaker 2: general manager, acknowledged that they rushed Jake Myers back from
Speaker 2: his torn laboram that he suffered in the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one ALBS Click promised a return review of the Astros
Speaker 2: return to play procedure at that point. He was fired
Speaker 2: a couple months later, so I don't know if that
Speaker 2: review of the return to play procedure ever actually happened.
Speaker 2: But if you've watched how they've handled themselves and how
Speaker 2: all these pitchers have setbacks, and how all these position
Speaker 2: players aren't coming back on time, it would seem proven
Speaker 2: that they would need to review the return to play
Speaker 2: procedure and the Tucker the Tucker contusion thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like it got to
Speaker 2: be where like they were making him look bad because
Speaker 2: like fans thought he was out for three and a
Speaker 2: half months with a bruise, when you know, I talked
Speaker 2: to doctors. I wrote a story where I quoted like
Speaker 2: four orthopedic surgeons who said, like, yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 2: possible to be out for four these these things can take.
Speaker 2: That's a long the heel for a bone bruise, but
Speaker 2: it's not that common. And come to find out there
Speaker 2: was a fracture in there.
Speaker 3: So it's just kind of.
Speaker 2: Part of the territory covering this team. That's just how
Speaker 2: this is how they're going to operate. So you kind
Speaker 2: of have to roll with the punches and go with it.
Speaker 5: Someone who had a lot of setbacks and had a
Speaker 5: tough tough time getting back. It's the anniversary of his
Speaker 5: debut just a few days ago when he wore his
Speaker 5: Batman cleats. Lance McCullers is taking the mound tonight. What
Speaker 5: is the difference that you see in Lance colors from
Speaker 5: the day that he made his Batman Cleats Big League
Speaker 5: debut and had that arrogance and swag to now somebody
Speaker 5: who's gone through quite a bit and has worked his
Speaker 5: way to get back.
Speaker 3: Out on the mound.
Speaker 2: Man, that's a that's a big question because, like you said,
Speaker 2: I mean, it was ten years ago that he debuted.
Speaker 2: He's gotten married since then, he's had two little girls.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that matures you, like becoming a husband,
Speaker 2: becoming a father. He is certainly not maybe the throat slashing,
Speaker 2: swaggy like kid that was on the mound back then,
Speaker 2: but certainly believes a lot it. Certainly is very confident
Speaker 2: in himself. That hasn't changed. That kind of inner aura
Speaker 2: and that kind of inner swagger hasn't changed. Maybe he's
Speaker 2: not showing it on the mound as much as far
Speaker 2: as like what he is as a pitcher, like a
Speaker 2: completely different guy. Like the days of twenty four straight
Speaker 2: curveballs to win a pennant in twenty seventeen are long gone,
Speaker 2: you know, so are the days really of him as
Speaker 2: a curveball maestro. Like his curveball now is basically a
Speaker 2: show pitch to lefties, where like, he's way more into
Speaker 2: his change up now.
Speaker 3: He uses a slider a lot.
Speaker 2: The two seam is I mean, you're not going to
Speaker 2: see a bunch of ninety five ninety six anymore. He's
Speaker 2: ninety ninety two can hit ninety three. He started backdooring
Speaker 2: the two seam in his last start against the Rangers.
Speaker 2: He is a different pitcher, and injuries have kind of
Speaker 2: forced that. You know, he was away from the game
Speaker 2: for nine hundred and fifteen days before you know, returning
Speaker 2: this season, and he was never going to return throwing
Speaker 2: you know, ninety six ninety seven. Not the same kind
Speaker 2: of guy. And look, the curveball had kind of lessened
Speaker 2: in emphasis before he got hurt too, Like he had
Speaker 2: incorporated a slider, he had incorporated the change up. He
Speaker 2: throws the four seam every now and then. He is
Speaker 2: a much more complete pitcher now than maybe he was
Speaker 2: when he debuted in twenty fifteen. And certainly he's been
Speaker 2: through a lot. One of the two remaining guys from
Speaker 2: the twenty seventeen Astros that are still on that are
Speaker 2: still active with the Astros, so he's obviously been through
Speaker 2: a ton with that hole. The fallout of that scandal
Speaker 2: and everything, but a much more complete pitcher, a guy
Speaker 2: that's not going to rely on just spinning you to
Speaker 2: death with curveballs, a lot more varied, diverse arsenal, and
Speaker 2: a guy that is he is only growing in importance
Speaker 2: to the Astros right now, given Ronel Blancos the news
Speaker 2: recently that Renel Blanco had some elbow pain.
Speaker 1: Hey, chander're a great story is Colton Gordon? He pitched
Speaker 1: in Tampa the other day against He's from Saint Pete.
Speaker 1: He grew up a raised fan, the whole thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy kind of came out of nowhere for this team.
Speaker 1: He's not a hard thrower, he's kind of a you know,
Speaker 1: a soft tossing left you with a bunch of breaking balls.
Speaker 1: Can he help them in the long term? And plus
Speaker 1: you got to tell the cool story about him, you know,
Speaker 1: delivering pizzas while he was on rehob It's kind of
Speaker 1: an awesome story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'll start with the pizza thing, because
Speaker 2: that's hilarious to me. He got so the Astros. He
Speaker 2: was a discount draft by the Astros. He had Tommy
Speaker 2: John surgery in May of his draft year and the
Speaker 2: Astros took a high school kid in the first with
Speaker 2: their first pick of that draft, needed to pay him overslot,
Speaker 2: so they were looking for some discount picks later in
Speaker 2: that draft. Colton Gordon eighth round pick. I think they
Speaker 2: signed him for like fifty grand under his slot value.
Speaker 2: But he threw strikes. They like the fastball from the
Speaker 2: left side, and you know, so they once he signed
Speaker 2: his contract, they send him to West Palm to rehab.
Speaker 2: Tommy John And if you ever meet and talk to
Speaker 2: Colton Gordon, he does not do well with just like
Speaker 2: sitting still, sitting idle. He's very fidgety, always has to
Speaker 2: be doing something. And he would finish his rehab every
Speaker 2: day at about noon and didn't want to sit in
Speaker 2: the hotel that they put him up in all day.
Speaker 2: So if you've ever been to Florida spring training, you
Speaker 2: know about Clematis Street in West Palm Beach. He walked
Speaker 2: into Clematis Pizza on Clematis Street in downtown West Palm
Speaker 2: said look, I'm only here for four months, but if
Speaker 2: you guys will have me, I'll deliver pizzas. And they
Speaker 2: gave him the job, and I don't know that he
Speaker 2: made back the fifty grand that he got shorted in
Speaker 2: the slot value thing. But you know, just it was
Speaker 2: interesting for him to talk to, Like he said that
Speaker 2: allowed him to take his mind off the rehab, Like
Speaker 2: it gives you something to do during a rehab to
Speaker 2: where you're not just thinking about, Man, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be pitching in a competitive environment for the next
Speaker 2: nine ten months, Like Tommy John, reab is such an
Speaker 2: isolating experience and it's so monotonous, and like, guys need
Speaker 2: that to take their mind off of stuff. And for him,
Speaker 2: it was delivering pizzas in a Ford f one fifty
Speaker 2: in West Palm Beach. He he didn't remember how much
Speaker 2: he made, but he did tell a story about he
Speaker 2: pulled up to one of those mansions on the island
Speaker 2: in Palm Beach was bringing ten pepperoni pizzas to the
Speaker 2: security guards that were working party and they tipped him
Speaker 2: a hundred bucks for delivering ten pepperoni pizzas.
Speaker 3: So that was great for young Colton Gordon. Now older
Speaker 3: Colton Gordon has made the big leagues.
Speaker 2: They sent him out after his last start in Saint Pete,
Speaker 2: where he actually pitched very well against a raised lineup
Speaker 2: that cannot hit left handed pitching, but he pitched well.
Speaker 2: They sent him out with Ronel Blanco likely headed to
Speaker 2: the IL in the next couple of days. That would
Speaker 2: pave the way if they need they do need a
Speaker 2: starter for Sunday against the Mariners. Would pave the way
Speaker 2: for them to call him back up quick because he's
Speaker 2: replacing someone.
Speaker 3: That went on the I think he can help them.
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's like a middle of the
Speaker 2: rotation like count on this guy, but he throws a
Speaker 2: ton of strikes. He throws a lot of different He
Speaker 2: is the epitome of a crafty left He just the
Speaker 2: velo's not up there, but like has a six pitch
Speaker 2: arsenal can command it really well. And one thing Joe
Speaker 2: Aspata has said one thing that every a lot of
Speaker 2: team officials have said, like this guy's not scared, like
Speaker 2: he he comes right at you, like he'll pound the zone.
Speaker 2: He's aggressive in the strike zone. He's gonna make hitters
Speaker 2: get themselves out, and you know, I think this is
Speaker 2: a guy that could get them, you know, two times
Speaker 2: through in order before turning it over to that bullpen
Speaker 2: that's been good all year. So yeah, I think he
Speaker 2: can help them, and I think he may have to
Speaker 2: help them given the state of their kind of what
Speaker 2: they are facing injury wise on their pitching staff.
Speaker 4: Hey, security guards get good cash, so good for them
Speaker 4: being good tippers. I like that, Chandler, Thank you for
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Keep crushing it on Crush City. We love listening to
Speaker 4: it and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3: All right, thanks guys.
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Speaker 4: Athletic put at an article saying which teams are trying
Speaker 4: treading a divided leagues haves and have nots.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna explain the chart.
Speaker 4: I think it's important to leave the chart up for
Speaker 4: a minute, So put up the chart and then I
Speaker 4: will go through what you're looking at. Category one powerhouses.
Speaker 4: Green dot in the upper right corner of the screen.
Speaker 4: That's the Dodgers. It's not very difficult to determine that.
Speaker 4: You know, they're set in the standard for trying and
Speaker 4: for spending and all that. The Mets have actually outspent
Speaker 4: the Dodgers during the time period that they were looking
Speaker 4: at twenty twenty two to the twenty twenty five seasons.
Speaker 4: But of course the Dodgers have them more success than
Speaker 4: the Mets. That's why you see the Mets lower on
Speaker 4: the totem pole right. So you're taking the spending, which
Speaker 4: moves you to the right side, and the winning and losing,
Speaker 4: which moves you up and down. You've got the Yankees, Phillies, Padres, Astros,
Speaker 4: and Braves also in the powerhouse category. That's a word
Speaker 4: I use very often on the show Overachievers. You've got
Speaker 4: a small group of teams that don't spend much but
Speaker 4: have a lot of winning Baltimore, although that doesn't sound
Speaker 4: good right now, Milwaukee, Seattle, Tampa, Bay, Cleveland. Then there's
Speaker 4: the basement, right that's for teams that don't spend and
Speaker 4: don't win. Pittsburgh, Miami, the Atchs, the Nats, the White Sox,
Speaker 4: the Rockies, and the Royals are on right. The Royals
Speaker 4: just turned it around last year. Middle is a mix
Speaker 4: of all of this, and then the Angels are in
Speaker 4: a separate category from everyone else because they do actually
Speaker 4: spend they just haven't seen wins and losses. What do
Speaker 4: you think of this chart?
Speaker 3: I thought it was cool like it aj?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it just shows you who the good
Speaker 1: teams are and who's not, who the good organizations are,
Speaker 1: and who the good organizations are, and it's pretty much
Speaker 1: what it boils down to, right. I Mean, you can
Speaker 1: say whatever you want about spending money, but if you
Speaker 1: don't spend money the right way, you still don't win.
Speaker 1: And then you have organizations that have figured out certain things,
Speaker 1: like whether it's the Rays with what they do, the
Speaker 1: Brewers with what they do, the Guardians with what they do,
Speaker 1: and they're kind of the outliers, right. I Mean, Baltimore
Speaker 1: they just drafted really well the last couple of years
Speaker 1: and had all these prospects that worked out for them.
Speaker 3: So that's the thing they do really well.
Speaker 1: They've done really well up until this year, right, So
Speaker 1: I think This is interesting because the powerhouses are the
Speaker 1: ones that usually win. They're the ones if you look
Speaker 1: at it, they're the ones that are winning, and they're
Speaker 1: the ones that we look in the standings today, they're
Speaker 1: usually at the top of the standings.
Speaker 5: But that would say, oh, we have to have the
Speaker 5: salary cap, then those teams can't spend that much, which
Speaker 5: I I think I think it comes down to. I
Speaker 5: think it comes down to the organizations that build themselves
Speaker 5: from within, and when they do it, they add to it.
Speaker 5: They don't just buy their team from pieces from other teams.
Speaker 5: Like look at the Astros are in there, the Braves
Speaker 5: are in there. Obviously there's other four teams. They didn't
Speaker 5: really build it from within. There's a few on the Phillies.
Speaker 5: But to me, once you do that, you've saved up.
Speaker 5: Let's say it takes you four years to rebuild. You
Speaker 5: saved money during those years. You can use that money.
Speaker 5: Then once you have all the prospects Baltimore, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But here's here's here's my thing. If you look
Speaker 1: at this the teams, let's just look at the winning percentage, right, Dodgers, Atlanta, Houston, Philly, Yankees, Mets, saying,
Speaker 1: diego okay, are all above five point fifty on this chart, right,
Speaker 1: And then you look at the overachievers, Tampa Bay against
Speaker 1: Seattle Milwaukee. Seattle has a generational rotation. Milwaukee was blessed
Speaker 1: for years. They're kind of come back down. In reality.
Speaker 1: Cleveland knows something about pitching that no one else does.
Speaker 1: Tampa does their thing, and Baltimore had those great prospects.
Speaker 1: But then when you get to me, the ones that
Speaker 1: are stand out more. Forget the salary cap. Why do
Speaker 1: we need a salary cav We don't have a salary floor. Athletics,
Speaker 1: White Sox, Colorado, even though Colorado does spend a little bit. Washington, Casey,
Speaker 1: Miami and Pittsburgh. Guess who doesn't win. The teams that
Speaker 1: don't add, don't spend money, and they trade away all
Speaker 1: their players because they think they're smarter whatever they want
Speaker 1: to save money. Those are the teams that don't win.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's what happens.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: When Washington won in twenty nineteen, what did they have
Speaker 1: Strasburg sures Er, Corbin Right, Zimmerman was there on the
Speaker 1: long term deal, Jason Worth, Trey Turner, Anthony Rendeo. When
Speaker 1: he wanted to play right, Like, these were all guys
Speaker 1: that were making money and they had a bigger payroll.
Speaker 1: They've gone into this mode since then, since training Soto,
Speaker 1: and they haven't spent back to get They were the
Speaker 1: team I said this offseason should go out and get
Speaker 1: some guys.
Speaker 5: They didn't really do it.
Speaker 1: And look they're stuck in the middle again. They're stuck
Speaker 1: down to the bottom. So it goes hand to hand.
Speaker 1: You get the prospects, then you got to go spend
Speaker 1: to finish it off, like the Cubs did, the Astros did,
Speaker 1: all these teams did. They went through these long rebuilds.
Speaker 1: You got to spend at the end to get over
Speaker 1: the top. They're not doing it.
Speaker 4: The metal helps me out a lot too, because you
Speaker 4: see some teams where you're like, they should be pushed
Speaker 4: a little more to the right side here. I mean,
Speaker 4: we've talked about the Cubs a lot. How about the Giants.
Speaker 4: That's a big market. Neither are the only ones in
Speaker 4: that market.
Speaker 3: No, that was a different group to me.
Speaker 5: To me, the ones that stick out there, Cardinals, Cubs,
Speaker 5: and Giants. The Giants had a different The Giants had
Speaker 5: a different like Yo far haan Z Aidy was running
Speaker 5: to the front office. Maybe he tried to Nicholin Dime.
Speaker 5: Maybe they missed out on if they had, you know,
Speaker 5: had the prospect or had the had Judge or had Correa,
Speaker 5: yes they would have bumped them up in payroll. But
Speaker 5: to me, those three teams out of that middle are
Speaker 5: the ones that should be pushing, pushing the upper limit.
Speaker 5: They should be going farther to the right on their payroll.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, very interesting list there,