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<v Speaker 1>Where are that because you aren't on Alvarez.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still a little bit away, Like I'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 2>if you see him this weekend against the Mariners. But

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<v Speaker 2>with the Astros, who knows they could activate him today

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<v Speaker 2>and surprise all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we got.

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<v Speaker 4>We're back with Chandler Rome from the Athletic and of

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<v Speaker 4>course Crush City Territory as well, your host of the

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<v Speaker 4>show that you should check out all about the Houston Astros. Chandler,

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<v Speaker 4>great to see you and let's just start nice in

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<v Speaker 4>general with the shows. I feel like we haven't talked

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<v Speaker 4>about them enough. Best part of the twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>Astros right now and worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Part is.

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<v Speaker 2>The best part's Hunter Brown and that's kind of without.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tough to debate. Their bullpen's been sneaky good. I

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<v Speaker 2>say sneaky good. I think they have the best bullpeny

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<v Speaker 2>Ari and baseball. But Hunter Brown is the best pitcher

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball right now in my opinion. He did not

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<v Speaker 2>have a great start yesterday at steinbren Or Field. The

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<v Speaker 2>jet stream and right field and the small dimensions did

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<v Speaker 2>not help him, but he was due a clunker. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he gave up five runs and five, and that

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<v Speaker 2>raised his ERA to a huge two point zero four.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been the epitome of an ace. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>everything that this team has needed and more.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He and Fromberveldez are keeping this thing afloat and really

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<v Speaker 2>stabilizing a pitching staff that's had a ton of injuries

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<v Speaker 2>so far. So it's it's easy to say that Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Brown's probably the best thing about the Astros right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst is a lineup. They are underperforming as an offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Their off season acquisition one of them, Christian Walker, has

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<v Speaker 2>has really really scuffled.

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<v Speaker 3>Jose Altuve is.

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<v Speaker 2>In the middle of one of the worst thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>game stretches of his career. Gordon Alvarez is still in

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<v Speaker 2>the IL with a hand injury. And all that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>they knew coming into the season that this lineup was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a bat or too short, given that

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<v Speaker 2>they let Alex Bregman walk, they traded Kyle Tucker. So

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<v Speaker 2>when those guys aren't producing, when Alvarez isn't on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>and Altuve and Walker are scuffling, inherently, the lineup's just

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<v Speaker 2>just not going to It's not going to function. They

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<v Speaker 2>have a six ninety five team ops us right now,

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<v Speaker 2>they're slugging three seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 3>As a team.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a deep lineup. It's not a lineup that

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<v Speaker 2>is giving Joe a spot of many options either, because

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<v Speaker 2>as we speak right now, they are carrying uh. They

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<v Speaker 2>have fourteen position players, twelve of them are right handed,

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<v Speaker 2>and their only two semblances of balance are switch hitting

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<v Speaker 2>backup catcher Victor Karattini and left handed hitting third catcher

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<v Speaker 2>Sasar Salazar, who, since he got called up for Jordan Alvarez,

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<v Speaker 2>has not played in a game. So Joe has very

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<v Speaker 2>little he can do to like mix the lineup up

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<v Speaker 2>look wise, Like you know, opposing managers can just send

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<v Speaker 2>every right handed reliever they have out there. Because the

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<v Speaker 2>Astros have no recourse, they can't create a platoon advantage,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't create any sort of late game, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>advantage situations, because this is a poorly constructed roster and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lineup that they knew coming in was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be thin, and the guys that they.

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<v Speaker 3>Are paying to produce are not producing.

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<v Speaker 5>Not going to any new guys first, but going to

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<v Speaker 5>HO two. Is the lack of protection more evident in

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<v Speaker 5>ol two a's at bats throughout the short season so far,

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<v Speaker 5>or is it a sign of regression that al two

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<v Speaker 5>as may be hitting that that little bump beer where

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<v Speaker 5>he's gonna have to make an adjustment.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a little bit of both. Eric.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's not had he did not have much protection,

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<v Speaker 2>still doesn't. But they have slowly moved him down in

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<v Speaker 2>the batting order. He he he asked out of the

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<v Speaker 2>leadoff spot about three weeks ago, seeded that to Jeremy Pania,

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<v Speaker 2>who's having a great year. And then a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days ago, Joe spot of moving down the third in

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<v Speaker 2>the batting order, trying to spark something a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean actions kind of speak louder than words

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<v Speaker 2>at this point that they keep finding ways to get

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<v Speaker 2>him down a little bit. He's Jose al Tuova. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to abandon him. They're not gonna not run

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<v Speaker 2>him out there every day. You know, I was joking

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<v Speaker 2>on Crush City earlier that we were taught we were

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<v Speaker 2>having this debate and Reddick and I joke that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they play a four game series against the Mariners this weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll probably get like thirteen hits in those four games

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<v Speaker 2>and make us all look stupid for you know, talking

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<v Speaker 2>about his demise if you will. But you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the Savant page right now, it doesn't look good. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of blue. He's hitting one ninety against fastballs

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<v Speaker 2>against four seemers this year. He hit three h eight

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<v Speaker 2>against four seemers last year. His bat speed is down

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<v Speaker 2>from his career from other points in his career. His

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<v Speaker 2>ground ball rate is very up. His line drive rate

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the lowest line drive rates of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not much under the hood that says it's nearing

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<v Speaker 2>or getting better. There's bad luck, but again, he's Jose

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<v Speaker 2>al Tuve. They're not giving up on him. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>run out there every day and they they have faith

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<v Speaker 2>in him more than anyone that he's gonna find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to turn it around.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's your on Avares? Where's yourd On Alvarez? Because we

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<v Speaker 1>did a whole thing last week. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't do interviews in Texas and he missed

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<v Speaker 1>this and he's doing this and they don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with him, Like where are the he?

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<v Speaker 2>Because ord On Avares, Well, I'll give you jord on credit.

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<v Speaker 2>He did do an interview in Tampa on the first

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<v Speaker 2>day of the trip. In Tampa, I was not there,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was not in the interview, but reading the

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<v Speaker 2>quotes that he gave, it sounds like he was pretty frustrated,

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<v Speaker 2>just that he didn't think it would take this long.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, he said it was something

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<v Speaker 2>that has been bothering him for a while. He has

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<v Speaker 2>had hand issues in the past. If you cover the Astros,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you follow the Astros for any length of time,

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<v Speaker 2>you understand that they are not going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>much about injuries. They're not going to be specific about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff, and they've lost all benefit of

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<v Speaker 2>the doubt from their fans, from people that cover them,

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<v Speaker 2>They've lost all benefit of the doubt when when they

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<v Speaker 2>start talking about injuries at this point. So at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>anything they say about him, like I just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>let go in one ear and out the other, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'll when he's back, he'll be back. So I can't

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<v Speaker 2>really take much that they say now with a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of merit. But if you believe what they say, he's

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<v Speaker 2>got a muscle strain at the top of his hand.

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<v Speaker 2>He is still swinging a bat, but he does still

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<v Speaker 2>feel some discomfort while swinging the bat, that's what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has not progressed to hitting VP off the feet.

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<v Speaker 2>On the field, he's taken like soft toss and tea work,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's still a little bit away, Like I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised if you see him this weekend against the Mariners.

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<v Speaker 2>But with the Astros, who knows they could activate him

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<v Speaker 2>today and surprise all of us.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you give us another example besides the Jordon thing,

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<v Speaker 5>because Kyle Tucker last year had a contusion and then

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<v Speaker 5>we found out right when he was coming back, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>it was a fracture, but that was three four months later.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there other examples?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's more and look, I'm not here and

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<v Speaker 2>aj Kratz like you guys played like I'm not here,

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<v Speaker 2>like seeking like medical records of players, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to know what medicines they're on. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're not asking for much here. But the clarity

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<v Speaker 2>that they provide is non existent, and the prognoses they

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<v Speaker 2>give is usually it exceeds what they say, or it's

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<v Speaker 2>not all the way true, like the lack of just

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<v Speaker 2>alignment and communication. It has been something that has now

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<v Speaker 2>spanned three general managers, it's spanned three field managers, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is not something that is new this year. It's

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<v Speaker 2>something that has been for a while. You look at

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<v Speaker 2>their guys, their pitchers that have undergone arm surgery and

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<v Speaker 2>their return to play. Luis Garcia had Tommy John surgery

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say, about fourteen to fifteen months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's had a number of setbacks, not even thrown

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<v Speaker 2>off a mound yet. Lance McCullers, we've been through how

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<v Speaker 2>many setbacks he had. Dana Brown admitted last year that

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<v Speaker 2>they rushed JP Frantz back from a shoulder injury that

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<v Speaker 2>caused him to tailor the capsule in his shoulder and

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<v Speaker 2>that needed a repair a surgery. James Klick, the former

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<v Speaker 2>general manager, acknowledged that they rushed Jake Myers back from

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<v Speaker 2>his torn laboram that he suffered in the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one ALBS Click promised a return review of the Astros

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<v Speaker 2>return to play procedure at that point. He was fired

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<v Speaker 2>a couple months later, so I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 2>review of the return to play procedure ever actually happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you've watched how they've handled themselves and how

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<v Speaker 2>all these pitchers have setbacks, and how all these position

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<v Speaker 2>players aren't coming back on time, it would seem proven

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<v Speaker 2>that they would need to review the return to play

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<v Speaker 2>procedure and the Tucker the Tucker contusion thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, like it got to

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<v Speaker 2>be where like they were making him look bad because

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<v Speaker 2>like fans thought he was out for three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half months with a bruise, when you know, I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to doctors. I wrote a story where I quoted like

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<v Speaker 2>four orthopedic surgeons who said, like, yeah, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>possible to be out for four these these things can take.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a long the heel for a bone bruise, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that common. And come to find out there

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<v Speaker 2>was a fracture in there.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the territory covering this team. That's just how

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<v Speaker 2>this is how they're going to operate. So you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have to roll with the punches and go with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Someone who had a lot of setbacks and had a

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<v Speaker 5>tough tough time getting back. It's the anniversary of his

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<v Speaker 5>debut just a few days ago when he wore his

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<v Speaker 5>Batman cleats. Lance McCullers is taking the mound tonight. What

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<v Speaker 5>is the difference that you see in Lance colors from

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<v Speaker 5>the day that he made his Batman Cleats Big League

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<v Speaker 5>debut and had that arrogance and swag to now somebody

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<v Speaker 5>who's gone through quite a bit and has worked his

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<v Speaker 5>way to get back.

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<v Speaker 3>Out on the mound.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's a that's a big question because, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was ten years ago that he debuted.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gotten married since then, he's had two little girls.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously that matures you, like becoming a husband,

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<v Speaker 2>becoming a father. He is certainly not maybe the throat slashing,

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<v Speaker 2>swaggy like kid that was on the mound back then,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly believes a lot it. Certainly is very confident

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<v Speaker 2>in himself. That hasn't changed. That kind of inner aura

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of inner swagger hasn't changed. Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 2>not showing it on the mound as much as far

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<v Speaker 2>as like what he is as a pitcher, like a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different guy. Like the days of twenty four straight

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<v Speaker 2>curveballs to win a pennant in twenty seventeen are long gone,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so are the days really of him as

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<v Speaker 2>a curveball maestro. Like his curveball now is basically a

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<v Speaker 2>show pitch to lefties, where like, he's way more into

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<v Speaker 2>his change up now.

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<v Speaker 3>He uses a slider a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>The two seam is I mean, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>see a bunch of ninety five ninety six anymore. He's

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<v Speaker 2>ninety ninety two can hit ninety three. He started backdooring

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<v Speaker 2>the two seam in his last start against the Rangers.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a different pitcher, and injuries have kind of

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<v Speaker 2>forced that. You know, he was away from the game

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<v Speaker 2>for nine hundred and fifteen days before you know, returning

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<v Speaker 2>this season, and he was never going to return throwing

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ninety six ninety seven. Not the same kind

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<v Speaker 2>of guy. And look, the curveball had kind of lessened

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<v Speaker 2>in emphasis before he got hurt too, Like he had

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<v Speaker 2>incorporated a slider, he had incorporated the change up. He

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<v Speaker 2>throws the four seam every now and then. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a much more complete pitcher now than maybe he was

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<v Speaker 2>when he debuted in twenty fifteen. And certainly he's been

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<v Speaker 2>through a lot. One of the two remaining guys from

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty seventeen Astros that are still on that are

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<v Speaker 2>still active with the Astros, so he's obviously been through

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<v Speaker 2>a ton with that hole. The fallout of that scandal

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, but a much more complete pitcher, a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to rely on just spinning you to

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<v Speaker 2>death with curveballs, a lot more varied, diverse arsenal, and

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that is he is only growing in importance

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<v Speaker 2>to the Astros right now, given Ronel Blancos the news

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<v Speaker 2>recently that Renel Blanco had some elbow pain.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, chander're a great story is Colton Gordon? He pitched

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<v Speaker 1>in Tampa the other day against He's from Saint Pete.

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<v Speaker 1>He grew up a raised fan, the whole thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy kind of came out of nowhere for this team.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a hard thrower, he's kind of a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a soft tossing left you with a bunch of breaking balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Can he help them in the long term? And plus

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<v Speaker 1>you got to tell the cool story about him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>delivering pizzas while he was on rehob It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an awesome story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess I'll start with the pizza thing, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's hilarious to me. He got so the Astros. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a discount draft by the Astros. He had Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>John surgery in May of his draft year and the

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<v Speaker 2>Astros took a high school kid in the first with

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<v Speaker 2>their first pick of that draft, needed to pay him overslot,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were looking for some discount picks later in

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<v Speaker 2>that draft. Colton Gordon eighth round pick. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>signed him for like fifty grand under his slot value.

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<v Speaker 2>But he threw strikes. They like the fastball from the

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<v Speaker 2>left side, and you know, so they once he signed

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<v Speaker 2>his contract, they send him to West Palm to rehab.

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy John And if you ever meet and talk to

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<v Speaker 2>Colton Gordon, he does not do well with just like

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<v Speaker 2>sitting still, sitting idle. He's very fidgety, always has to

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<v Speaker 2>be doing something. And he would finish his rehab every

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<v Speaker 2>day at about noon and didn't want to sit in

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<v Speaker 2>the hotel that they put him up in all day.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you've ever been to Florida spring training, you

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<v Speaker 2>know about Clematis Street in West Palm Beach. He walked

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<v Speaker 2>into Clematis Pizza on Clematis Street in downtown West Palm

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<v Speaker 2>said look, I'm only here for four months, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys will have me, I'll deliver pizzas. And they

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<v Speaker 2>gave him the job, and I don't know that he

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<v Speaker 2>made back the fifty grand that he got shorted in

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<v Speaker 2>the slot value thing. But you know, just it was

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<v Speaker 2>interesting for him to talk to, Like he said that

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<v Speaker 2>allowed him to take his mind off the rehab, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it gives you something to do during a rehab to

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<v Speaker 2>where you're not just thinking about, Man, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be pitching in a competitive environment for the next

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<v Speaker 2>nine ten months, Like Tommy John, reab is such an

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<v Speaker 2>isolating experience and it's so monotonous, and like, guys need

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<v Speaker 2>that to take their mind off of stuff. And for him,

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<v Speaker 2>it was delivering pizzas in a Ford f one fifty

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<v Speaker 2>in West Palm Beach. He he didn't remember how much

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<v Speaker 2>he made, but he did tell a story about he

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<v Speaker 2>pulled up to one of those mansions on the island

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<v Speaker 2>in Palm Beach was bringing ten pepperoni pizzas to the

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<v Speaker 2>security guards that were working party and they tipped him

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred bucks for delivering ten pepperoni pizzas.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was great for young Colton Gordon. Now older

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<v Speaker 3>Colton Gordon has made the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 2>They sent him out after his last start in Saint Pete,

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<v Speaker 2>where he actually pitched very well against a raised lineup

0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.680
<v Speaker 2>that cannot hit left handed pitching, but he pitched well.

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<v Speaker 2>They sent him out with Ronel Blanco likely headed to

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<v Speaker 2>the IL in the next couple of days. That would

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<v Speaker 2>pave the way if they need they do need a

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<v Speaker 2>starter for Sunday against the Mariners. Would pave the way

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<v Speaker 2>for them to call him back up quick because he's

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<v Speaker 2>replacing someone.

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<v Speaker 3>That went on the I think he can help them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that he's like a middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>rotation like count on this guy, but he throws a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of strikes. He throws a lot of different He

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<v Speaker 2>is the epitome of a crafty left He just the

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<v Speaker 2>velo's not up there, but like has a six pitch

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<v Speaker 2>arsenal can command it really well. And one thing Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Aspata has said one thing that every a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>team officials have said, like this guy's not scared, like

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<v Speaker 2>he he comes right at you, like he'll pound the zone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's aggressive in the strike zone. He's gonna make hitters

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<v Speaker 2>get themselves out, and you know, I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that could get them, you know, two times

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<v Speaker 2>through in order before turning it over to that bullpen

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<v Speaker 2>that's been good all year. So yeah, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>can help them, and I think he may have to

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<v Speaker 2>help them given the state of their kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>they are facing injury wise on their pitching staff.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, security guards get good cash, so good for them

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<v Speaker 4>being good tippers. I like that, Chandler, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 4>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep crushing it on Crush City. We love listening to

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<v Speaker 4>it and we'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Athletic put at an article saying which teams are trying

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<v Speaker 4>treading a divided leagues haves and have nots.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna explain the chart.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important to leave the chart up for

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<v Speaker 4>a minute, So put up the chart and then I

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<v Speaker 4>will go through what you're looking at. Category one powerhouses.

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<v Speaker 4>Green dot in the upper right corner of the screen.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the Dodgers. It's not very difficult to determine that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they're set in the standard for trying and

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<v Speaker 4>for spending and all that. The Mets have actually outspent

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<v Speaker 4>the Dodgers during the time period that they were looking

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<v Speaker 4>at twenty twenty two to the twenty twenty five seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>But of course the Dodgers have them more success than

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<v Speaker 4>the Mets. That's why you see the Mets lower on

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<v Speaker 4>the totem pole right. So you're taking the spending, which

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<v Speaker 4>moves you to the right side, and the winning and losing,

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<v Speaker 4>which moves you up and down. You've got the Yankees, Phillies, Padres, Astros,

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<v Speaker 4>and Braves also in the powerhouse category. That's a word

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<v Speaker 4>I use very often on the show Overachievers. You've got

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<v Speaker 4>a small group of teams that don't spend much but

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot of winning Baltimore, although that doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 4>good right now, Milwaukee, Seattle, Tampa, Bay, Cleveland. Then there's

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<v Speaker 4>the basement, right that's for teams that don't spend and

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<v Speaker 4>don't win. Pittsburgh, Miami, the Atchs, the Nats, the White Sox,

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<v Speaker 4>the Rockies, and the Royals are on right. The Royals

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<v Speaker 4>just turned it around last year. Middle is a mix

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<v Speaker 4>of all of this, and then the Angels are in

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<v Speaker 4>a separate category from everyone else because they do actually

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<v Speaker 4>spend they just haven't seen wins and losses. What do

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<v Speaker 4>you think of this chart?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was cool like it aj?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it just shows you who the good

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<v Speaker 1>teams are and who's not, who the good organizations are,

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<v Speaker 1>and who the good organizations are, and it's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>what it boils down to, right. I Mean, you can

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<v Speaker 1>say whatever you want about spending money, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't spend money the right way, you still don't win.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have organizations that have figured out certain things,

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<v Speaker 1>like whether it's the Rays with what they do, the

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<v Speaker 1>Brewers with what they do, the Guardians with what they do,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're kind of the outliers, right. I Mean, Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>they just drafted really well the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>and had all these prospects that worked out for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the thing they do really well.

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<v Speaker 1>They've done really well up until this year, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think This is interesting because the powerhouses are the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that usually win. They're the ones if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, they're the ones that are winning, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that we look in the standings today, they're

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<v Speaker 1>usually at the top of the standings.

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<v Speaker 5>But that would say, oh, we have to have the

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<v Speaker 5>salary cap, then those teams can't spend that much, which

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<v Speaker 5>I I think I think it comes down to. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it comes down to the organizations that build themselves

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<v Speaker 5>from within, and when they do it, they add to it.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't just buy their team from pieces from other teams.

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<v Speaker 5>Like look at the Astros are in there, the Braves

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<v Speaker 5>are in there. Obviously there's other four teams. They didn't

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<v Speaker 5>really build it from within. There's a few on the Phillies.

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<v Speaker 5>But to me, once you do that, you've saved up.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's say it takes you four years to rebuild. You

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<v Speaker 5>saved money during those years. You can use that money.

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<v Speaker 5>Then once you have all the prospects Baltimore, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But here's here's here's my thing. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>at this the teams, let's just look at the winning percentage, right, Dodgers, Atlanta, Houston, Philly, Yankees, Mets, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>diego okay, are all above five point fifty on this chart, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at the overachievers, Tampa Bay against

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle Milwaukee. Seattle has a generational rotation. Milwaukee was blessed

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<v Speaker 1>for years. They're kind of come back down. In reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland knows something about pitching that no one else does.

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa does their thing, and Baltimore had those great prospects.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when you get to me, the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are stand out more. Forget the salary cap. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>we need a salary cav We don't have a salary floor. Athletics,

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<v Speaker 1>White Sox, Colorado, even though Colorado does spend a little bit. Washington, Casey,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami and Pittsburgh. Guess who doesn't win. The teams that

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<v Speaker 1>don't add, don't spend money, and they trade away all

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<v Speaker 1>their players because they think they're smarter whatever they want

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<v Speaker 1>to save money. Those are the teams that don't win.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>When Washington won in twenty nineteen, what did they have

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<v Speaker 1>Strasburg sures Er, Corbin Right, Zimmerman was there on the

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<v Speaker 1>long term deal, Jason Worth, Trey Turner, Anthony Rendeo. When

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to play right, Like, these were all guys

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<v Speaker 1>that were making money and they had a bigger payroll.

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<v Speaker 1>They've gone into this mode since then, since training Soto,

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<v Speaker 1>and they haven't spent back to get They were the

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<v Speaker 1>team I said this offseason should go out and get

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<v Speaker 1>some guys.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't really do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And look they're stuck in the middle again. They're stuck

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<v Speaker 1>down to the bottom. So it goes hand to hand.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the prospects, then you got to go spend

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<v Speaker 1>to finish it off, like the Cubs did, the Astros did,

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<v Speaker 1>all these teams did. They went through these long rebuilds.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to spend at the end to get over

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<v Speaker 1>the top. They're not doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>The metal helps me out a lot too, because you

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<v Speaker 4>see some teams where you're like, they should be pushed

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<v Speaker 4>a little more to the right side here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we've talked about the Cubs a lot. How about the Giants.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a big market. Neither are the only ones in

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<v Speaker 4>that market.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that was a different group to me.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, the ones that stick out there, Cardinals, Cubs,

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<v Speaker 5>and Giants. The Giants had a different The Giants had

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<v Speaker 5>a different like Yo far haan Z Aidy was running

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<v Speaker 5>to the front office. Maybe he tried to Nicholin Dime.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe they missed out on if they had, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>had the prospect or had the had Judge or had Correa,

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<v Speaker 5>yes they would have bumped them up in payroll. But

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<v Speaker 5>to me, those three teams out of that middle are

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<v Speaker 5>the ones that should be pushing, pushing the upper limit.

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<v Speaker 5>They should be going farther to the right on their payroll.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. Yeah, very interesting list there,