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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Casual KAOSS.

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Speaker 1: This week, we have a very exciting guest. You might

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Speaker 1: have seen her on your screens. Ella Stiller. Welcome to Casual.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'm so exciting to you. I'm

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Speaker 2: happy to be here. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Ella is also a Bravo fan. Yeah, major,

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Speaker 1: So we have to we'll get into all of this.

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Speaker 1: But I recently just moved to Jersey City. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: whereabouts are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm on the Upper West Side.

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Speaker 1: You're living in New York?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fun, I grew up here. I was born in

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Speaker 2: La and then my family moved here when I was

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Speaker 2: eight years old, and I've been on the Upper West

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Speaker 1: Basically, Oh, I love that. So I just moved out

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Speaker 1: of my parents' house. Are you still with your parents or.

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Speaker 2: My own plate? I'm gone, Okay, I'm in my own place,

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Speaker 2: seven blocks from where I grew up.

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Speaker 1: You got to keep it close to home, right was

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Speaker 1: That was like my biggest thing. I chose Jersey City

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Speaker 1: because my family and boyfriend are still in Jersey but

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Speaker 1: Jersey City at least gives me like that accessibility to

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Speaker 1: be really close to New York. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: it's the perfect happy medium perfect. I still feel like

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Speaker 1: I see the city. I have great views of the city.

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Speaker 1: I could basically touch the Statue of Liberty.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is great.

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Speaker 1: I'm close enough and this is perfect for me. I

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Speaker 1: just like when you grow up in the city, I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's so cool and you just have like

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Speaker 1: this like gossip girl like mentality, like Upper East Side,

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Speaker 1: like just like gives that.

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Speaker 2: And I mean I would have.

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Speaker 1: I would love that. So maybe eventually, Yeah, I'll make

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Speaker 1: my way, but I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like a good start. Yeah. But I also I also

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Speaker 2: really like respect staying close to home, and I like

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Speaker 2: my whole family we're all in the city still. My

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Speaker 2: brother's in college right now. He's but he's also just downtown. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we all stayed. Yeah, and I kind of can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: It's all it's I feel like though, when you're in

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Speaker 1: the city, you're going to school in the city, there's

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Speaker 1: just so much going on that you're running around all

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Speaker 1: over anyway, so you're in your own world. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: Like I went to Rutgers, so it was different, Like

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Speaker 1: I was still in Jersey again, still stayed close, but

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Speaker 1: I just I didn't love the college town of Rutgers.

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Speaker 1: So I went home a lot. It didn't really feel

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Speaker 1: like I was away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like in New York.

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Speaker 1: You could kind of make that feel for yourself, but

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Speaker 1: like I was in New Brunswick, there's nothing.

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Speaker 2: No, I really did that exciting. I literally again went

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Speaker 2: to college a different seven blocks from where I grew up.

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Speaker 2: So just the whole.

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Speaker 1: So did you, I know, I know you. I know

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Speaker 1: you graduated from Julliard I did, but was so did

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Speaker 1: you dorm there?

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Speaker 2: I did? Okay, so you for the first year you.

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Speaker 1: Still wanted to get that college.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So they require first years to live in the dorms,

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Speaker 2: which is just to sort of get everyone friends. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: immersed in the experience. I went during COVID. So it

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Speaker 2: were you a year younger than me? I graduated twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Four, okay, I was twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, So my first year was the height

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Speaker 2: of COVID. Moved into the dorms, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy, and they let you move in during COVID.

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Speaker 2: We okay, So we were online for a month or two,

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Speaker 2: I would say, two months on Zoom doing acting school

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Speaker 2: and you were in the door though, and that some

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Speaker 2: people got to some people moved in early, but most

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Speaker 2: people were at home. And then the new like phase

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Speaker 1: So was that end of first first semester?

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Speaker 2: It was like November okay, twenty twenty. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you grew up in a very famous household.

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Speaker 1: Parents are Ben Stiller and Christine Taylor. When did you

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Speaker 1: really notice that your family was different?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I honestly have no idea, right, and

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Speaker 2: I want to hear your whole experience yet this too,

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Speaker 2: because it's it's obviously two very different worlds. But it

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Speaker 2: And I've actually recently kind of been like trying to

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Speaker 2: when we go out with dad, like people take pictures

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Speaker 2: when I realized that that's not the same for everyone else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was it maybe when you were I feel like

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Speaker 1: for me, it was when I was in elementary school,

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Speaker 1: middle school, high school, because I went to public schools.

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Speaker 1: So I mean in Jersey they have like really good

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Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to do. But I think because

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Speaker 1: my family kind of started it all together in a way,

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Speaker 1: even though we weren't the face of the Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: But my mom started out with like probably one of

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Speaker 1: Like then really crazy stuff was happening, and it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Really crazy that I always think, like, as such a

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Speaker 2: like the only the only people I really feel starstruck by,

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Speaker 2: But like when I see a Bravo person in real life,

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Speaker 2: I know so much about your family, Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 1: But I feel like there's a sense of like protecting

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Speaker 1: your personal life. Yes, yeah, when you are an actress

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Speaker 2: But like there's a difference between when you feel like

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Speaker 1: The time yeah, i feel like I've watched you grow up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But then there's like so much more even to my

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Speaker 2: Did you when did you know that you wanted to

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Speaker 1: I think, honestly, yeah, Like I graduated college and I

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Speaker 1: So I've always said it since I was little because

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Speaker 2: You have done some crazy Congratulations on your wins.

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Speaker 1: That was the hardest but best thing I ever did

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so then after college, I got a desk job,

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Speaker 2: add on to that and like to feel like my

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00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: grandmother who's passed away in twenty fifteen, Like to feel

438
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: like who I didn't get to know as an adult,

439
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: who now as I'm have been acting and performing to

440
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: play this summer. And the overwhelming thing that I've gotten

441
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: from people is like, you are you are so much

442
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 2: like your grandmother, So you're so much like Anne, and

443
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: and that I look like her, and that my energy whatever,

444
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: and it's that's been so most compliment it is, and

445
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: I feel so connected to her and my family like

446
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: because of that, and I feel like it's I don't know,

447
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 2: just spiritually, I feel very connected to it. And so

448
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: I just liked, I think it's an amazing thing, and

449
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 2: I think that makes so much sense that like, oh yeah,

450
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: and so on next gen like to see the the

451
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: kids of the housewives totally you know, totally different world.

452
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: But of course, but I don't see I don't. I

453
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: see it in such a like way of like, oh,

454
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: it's so great, because yeah, we don't.

455
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: It's I feel like a lot of viewers would love

456
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: to see that. Though yes, their mothers were obviously their

457
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: mothers are still like amazing and icons and are still

458
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: creating their legacy, But how cool is it to now

459
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 1: see their children and so creat their own path and

460
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,239
Speaker 1: be able to watch it. So same with you, Like

461
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: you know, you were in Happy Gilmore two and I

462
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: was fair and happy.

463
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I had a still little cameo You're still insane.

464
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: It was a non speaking cameo. I improved a line,

465
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: made it in there insane. I'll take it. But yeah,

466
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: I didn't just like that. That was my first TV

467
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: job that was so special and so fun. I got

468
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 2: literally is my first job out of school. And I'm

469
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: working with Carrie Bradshaw, like not just Sarah Jessica Parker.

470
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: It's like Harry Bradshaw opening the door. And I was

471
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: freaking out, like freaking out. But that was one of

472
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: those things like when I got that audition, I was like, oh,

473
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: this is like I don't I don't know. I just

474
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: got the feeling. I was like, I can totally get that.

475
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: Like I think you get you get tapes for things,

476
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: you get auditions, you get you know, you read parts

477
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: and you kind of know where you don't know. And

478
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 2: I feel like all the things that I've done so far,

479
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: I've been like I felt really this like guttural connection

480
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: to like I think I can really really do that,

481
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: And like the play that I did this summer, it

482
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: was a similar thing. Like I read the script. And

483
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: this is why I'm bringing this up is because the

484
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 2: reason that I knew when I got the script for

485
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: this play it's like called Delaia off Broadway the summer.

486
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: It was the world premiere revenue play. It was the

487
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: greatest experience of my life. But when I got the script,

488
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: I knew I was gonna get it. Not because I

489
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I got this. It was more that

490
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: there was just like this universe connection thing that was

491
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: happening because I read they started being the script and

492
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: on like page four something is the first Real Housewives reference?

493
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

494
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: Yes? And then it just keeps going and keeps going

495
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: and keeps going, and I was like, I have never

496
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: read a play with any Real Housewives references, let alone

497
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: this many where I'm doing like sudden strack like nayme

498
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: mom namo, like doing that in the in the play,

499
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: like Lisa Barlowe reference it like all of it, Like oh,

500
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: she's so funny, awesome, there's are all yeah, they're all amazing,

501
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: Like it's just the greatest franchise of all time is

502
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: the Real Housewives franchise, all of them, so.

503
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: They're I'm the biggest fan. No, they're all incredible.

504
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: But like Salt Lake City and I want to say,

505
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: I know you're friends with Brooks. Meredith Mark is my

506
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: favorite housewife of all time. I want to go on

507
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: the record and say, favorite housewife of all time.

508
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, well you Andy, you live in New York. Yeah,

509
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: we're filming for a next general. I mean, I'm also like,

510
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: I love Brooks. He's my best friend.

511
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: He's amazing. Like I don't know him.

512
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: I love Let's do lunch.

513
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: I love you, I love you guys.

514
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: Is always here. She's always here. She's the sweetest.

515
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: I feel such a connection. I love her so much.

516
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: It was a recent realization. I was like, that's my

517
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: favorite house of all No offense to your incredible mother,

518
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: who is another obvious like Mount Rushmore, as they say

519
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: of housewives. But these days, Salt Lake Art.

520
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: They're killing it though. Even my mom, like she recently

521
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: just started really watching Bravo within the last couple.

522
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: Of years, and so funny.

523
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: It's hilarious because sometimes it's like when you're on a show,

524
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: you don't want to watch yourself, but I think it's

525
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: the best way to learn from yourself. So I love

526
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: watching me back on Next Gen or watching my podcast

527
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: back or anything like that, because I look at it

528
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: as a mirror view to be like, Okay, I see

529
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: what they did here, and I never want that to

530
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: happen again. I look at it as a total self reflection.

531
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't look at it as I regret this or

532
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: I regret that. I look at it and I'm like, Okay,

533
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: now I know how I want to do it differently.

534
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: That's so crazy to hear you say, because like it's

535
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: again totally different, but also like kind of the exact

536
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 2: same thing else you watch yourself on screen, especially, and

537
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, for me, theater is always going to be

538
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: like the thing that's where I'm like I was born

539
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,120
Speaker 2: to be on stage, Like this is where I am, Like,

540
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: this is where I'm the most myself and doing like

541
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: the best work. But I've been doing more film and

542
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: TV recently, Like I was just in LA for a

543
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: few months doing the new season of The Comeback, which

544
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: was again one of the best experiences ever. And that's

545
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 2: really excited to see that. But also I have a

546
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: hard time watching myself on screen, so in the things

547
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 2: I've done over the last year and a half since

548
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: I've graduated, like and just like that, like sitting literally

549
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: sitting there watching it like through my hands, trying like

550
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: not to not to judge it, not to you know,

551
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: put any sort of like well that was horrible, that

552
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: was great, whatever, But just like I think I only

553
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: really needed to watch it once, like, but I wanted

554
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: to watch it to be like to be okay with it.

555
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's okay and it's good and it's out

556
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: there and whatever, but also to be like, Okay, so

557
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't like that I did that, That's fine, Yeah,

558
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: next time, I'll probably do something else.

559
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

560
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: But also, you know.

561
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: You're so young too, like you are, and like we

562
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: both are, every day is a learning day.

563
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: And I love what you were saying about not regretting things,

564
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: and this is you can't. This is in general a

565
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: really really big thing I talk about a lot in

566
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: my life is like I make an active choice every

567
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: day to not regret any like past mistakes, because it's

568
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: the word. It's such a useless feeling, and especially as

569
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: an actor or an artist, like it's just useless to

570
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: regret because you can't do anything to change it, so

571
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: instead you just think, like what did I learn from that?

572
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: And how is it going to like help me in

573
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: the future. I always say, like, unless you like really

574
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: actively like hurt someone or did something and if.

575
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: You like to read something crazy, yeah, of course, I just.

576
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: I mean in terms of like why did I shouldn't

577
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: have done I shouldn't have done that.

578
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: If it's like a little things, like you can't beat

579
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: yourself up about it. You just have to like move

580
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: forward and change it. And that's exactly like how I

581
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: I kind of fell on Next Gen. I was like,

582
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like this wasn't the best

583
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: demonstration of myself and like it's okay, and everything is

584
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: a learning like everything's a learning lesson. But obviously they

585
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: know my mom and she is so amazing, but she

586
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: is known for her funny her funny moments where she

587
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: messes up words and doesn't say things correctly, and then

588
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: also just like her fiery temporary moments that are iconic,

589
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: and they kind of I feel like on Next Gen

590
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: and maybe listen, maybe I didn't give my I didn't

591
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: give enough of myself to Next Gen Season one and

592
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: that could possibly be it. Maybe I didn't show them

593
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: enough of myself for them to really, you know, demonstrate

594
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: everything that I'm doing in my life. But they only

595
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: really showed the moments where I was like annoyed by

596
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: something or you know, fiery or this or that. And yes,

597
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 1: they showed moments where I was a very very good friend.

598
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: But then, for example, I did a huge Vince Camudo

599
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: campaign and they literally showed five seconds of it. Wow,

600
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: like you blinked your eye and the scene was over,

601
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, that was so screwed up. Well,

602
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: that was a huge campaign. Why wouldn't you have shown

603
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: more of that? Yeah, And so there was little things

604
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: that I just didn't love from the first season. I'm like,

605
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: next season, I'm giving you'll take my left arm. I

606
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: will show you guys, everything and more. And that's really

607
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: how you have to be with reality TV, because they

608
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: are going to capture everything that you give them. So

609
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: I have to be all in.

610
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: Not that different from when you're filming a TV show

611
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: and you get to do four takes and then you

612
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: have no say whatsoever over what they use they get.

613
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: They you get, as you know, as many chances they're

614
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: going to give you. Sometimes you get one chance, sometimes

615
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: you get a million, but then it's up to them.

616
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: Then it's like your performance is so much in the edit,

617
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: which is so real. For reality TV too, I think

618
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: it is that you can't the end of the day.

619
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that is its own art form. It's

620
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 2: putting together exactly something else, and sometimes it can be

621
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: really good. Sometimes it can be really better.

622
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: And just how you're saying it, like, yes, you guys

623
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: have a script, but it's the way you perform your

624
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: script each time that's different. And even for reality TV,

625
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: it's like, yes, we are not we don't have a

626
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: script and we're just talking how we would talk. But

627
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: whatever you said it, you said whatever you said, And Okay,

628
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: maybe they're only going to use the first and five

629
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: seconds of it in the edit and not the rest

630
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: of the sentence that makes you look a little better exactly,

631
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: but you still said it. So that's like there, I've

632
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: just learned so much this year and realized so much

633
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: this year from so many different people, even today talking

634
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: to you when you're saying about the Nepple baby stuff

635
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: and how it's actually a blessing and that you would

636
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: be inspired to follow in your family's footsteps, Like I

637
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: love that because I never really thought about that until

638
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: today when you just said it. And like, even just

639
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: talking to so many people this past year, it's like,

640
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: no matter what you said, what you said, or you know,

641
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: you performed the way that you performed, you can't regret it.

642
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: You just have to learn from it and move on.

643
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: But also it's just like it's so funny too, because

644
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: hearing you talk about the way you think about yourself

645
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: from the first season of Next Gen, Like I don't

646
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: see that at all, and all the negative things that

647
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: you're saying that aren't, you know, so negative. But the

648
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: thing I can tell that you're not the happiest with

649
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: Like I didn't see any of that, and it's so

650
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: we are so everybody tells me that, but it's true,

651
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: like really, you actually liked me on Next Gen. And

652
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: but that's part of the whole thing too, is that

653
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: you have to, like when you're watching yourself back on things,

654
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: you have to remind yourself, okay that these things that

655
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: I obsess over about myself no one else is paying

656
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 2: attention to, Like no one in the world actually cares

657
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: as much about how we would come off on screen

658
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: as we do, and we're watching because we see every

659
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: last detail, and in reality, that's not how most people

660
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: perceive anything. So that's it's so funny hearing you talk

661
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: about that because I relate to that so much too.

662
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: But I'm always and then my friends say, what are

663
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: you talking about? Like what are you saying? And hearing

664
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: you talk about I'm like, as a total, like non

665
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: biased viewer, like I'm only meeting you now, Like I

666
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: I thought you came off so lovely and fun and

667
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: funny and like cool. Really, yes, that's you made my day.

668
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: You made my day. I talked honestly, on set of

669
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: The Comeback. We were everyone's big Brava fans on that set,

670
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: and we would talk about you guys in hair and

671
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: makeup trailer every morning. Ukay, yes, oh my god, all

672
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: the girls have you seen jan Have you seen next John?

673
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I haven't yet, and they're like,

674
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: you got it, Just binge next time. And I binged

675
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: in one weekend, like at the beginning of the shoot,

676
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: and then we talk about you guys. We talked about

677
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: all of it. We were all a lot of Bravo

678
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: talk happening on set of the comebacks a lot of it.

679
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: I love this and like more than you didn't even think,

680
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: literally more than you think.

681
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: What was your first role or your first big role

682
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: that you ever did.

683
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: I would say my first big role was Delaia was

684
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: the play this summer that was you mean like professionally, yes, yeah,

685
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: that was that changed my entire life. I got to

686
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: I graduated May twenty twenty four from Juilliard, and then

687
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: in the year after that, I sort of was working

688
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: here and there. Like I said, in the fall of

689
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, I did it, and just like that

690
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: was really exciting because that was my first like real

691
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: job and then my first real acting job. And then

692
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: I was doing a lot of readings of new plays

693
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: and stuff, which is really fun and really great because

694
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: then you get to like shine in that and then

695
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: someone sees you and wants you to then do a

696
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: reading of their new play, and it's just a sort

697
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: of this like easy. Yeah, it's not easy, but it's

698
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: a sort of lower stakes cycle of work. But that

699
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: always just sort of begets more work, which is always

700
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: a great thing. But you start to get a little

701
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: bit tired of like not getting to really do the

702
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: play you're like, Okay, we're standing at music stans reading

703
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: and I want to do it so bad, so fun though,

704
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: But then I was working at a boutique and I

705
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: was like, this is not I was like, none of

706
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: this is happening as fast as I was thinking it

707
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: was going too and post grad and whatever. I did

708
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: a little movie or an amazing movie in the spring,

709
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: which was great. I had to go to North Carolina

710
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: for ten days to shoot that. It's the movie Driver's

711
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Edit premiere at TIFF and hopefully people will get to

712
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: see that soon. But then I want to come see

713
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: you if you ever do another, like yeah, and then

714
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: I and then May of twenty twenty five. It all,

715
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: It all happened in one week. I got the audition

716
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: for Delaia, got the script, read it real Housewives references.

717
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: I was like, started carrying my crystals around. We ever reconized,

718
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: like this is this is going to happen. I spent

719
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: I only had like two days to prepare for the audition,

720
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: but I spent every second working on it. Did the

721
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: audition on Zoom, had a call back on Zoom two

722
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: days later, got the call that night, started rehearsals a

723
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: week later, and it was like literally a year out

724
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: from graduation, and I was like, this is actually exactly

725
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: what I have always wanted my whole life is just

726
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: to do like a cool play off Broadway, like New

727
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 2: York Theater. It's like all I've ever ever wanted to do,

728
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: and to do this little play where there were only

729
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: three of us and it's really edgy and weird and

730
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: dark but hilarious and gritty, and it was the total

731
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: total dream and like role of a lifetime, Like I've

732
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: never played a role like that where I had to

733
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: do so many crazy things and be so insane but

734
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: also charming and funny and then also like you know,

735
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: stab people.

736
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: But like a year postscribe to do something you've always

737
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: dreamed about, Like that's incredible.

738
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: It just kind of felt like, Okay, everything's working out

739
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: the way it's meant to and and I wouldn't And

740
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: you know, there are things you auditioned for that you

741
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: really think you're gonna get or that you really feel

742
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: attached to, and there were a lot of things sort

743
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: of leading up to that play that I was like

744
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: really really upset that I didn't get. And I usually

745
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: try to not feel too attached to things I auditioned

746
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: for because it's so it's usually so like when you

747
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: say for something, you're probably not going to get it.

748
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: It's just the truth. But there were a few plays

749
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: I was really upset that I didn't get. But it

750
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: all then felt so right when I got this play,

751
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: because it was just like, this is the role for

752
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: me to like start my career with, and I'm so

753
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: grateful that I did. And then right off of that

754
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: I got I literally on closing night of that play,

755
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: I got the call that I got the job for

756
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: the Comeback, and that then was the next biggest thing

757
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: I've ever done. I've never done a shot something where

758
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: I was on set the very first day to the

759
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: very last day of the whole shoot, Like I have

760
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: never done that, you know, the thing where it's like

761
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: this it becomes your family. You're just on the lot

762
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: every single day and you're with them all the time. Yeah,

763
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: and it was amazing. But so I'm literally now just

764
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: coming off of that. I just got back from LA

765
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: a week ago, and it's crazy because since Delaria started

766
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: in May, it's just been it's been this like NonStop

767
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: thing of like I was in rehearsals, I did the

768
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: play I got the call about the next job, I

769
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: went and did the next job. Now I'm here, I

770
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: have no idea what's next? You don't I was gonna.

771
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that like the comeback is hopefully

772
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: coming out in the spring and whatever, and like that's

773
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: so exciting, and there's things that are like hopefully obviously happens, yes,

774
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: which things will probably roll in and I have no idea.

775
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: That's what's fun about it. It's like every time you

776
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: have something that's so exciting and so rewarding, good things

777
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: always come from.

778
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: That, Yes, especially if it's something that you feel is

779
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: right for you and that you connect to, because like

780
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 2: then it's it's gonna like it's gonna manifest or bring

781
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: in more of like the same vibe that you're putting it. Like,

782
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: you know, I never want to be doing things that

783
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm like I feel like I'm forcing myself into because

784
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: then that's not the right kind of work. And then

785
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like I think that when things

786
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 2: fall into place the way they're meant to, that it's

787
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 2: all gonna hopefully, you know. No, I'm going a little

788
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: crazy already being like, yeah, don't I don't have an

789
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: acting toop right now, I don't I don't know what's

790
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: next hopefully hopefully on, but you will.

791
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you you got to get Also, what I

792
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: learned like just going and being go, go go, give

793
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: you give yourself this time to reset and really rest

794
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: and just like give your body like that reset that

795
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: it needs because that's also like so.

796
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: Important it is it is I agree with that.

797
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: Did your parents give you any advice as you were

798
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: entering this exciting chapter of your life that stuff?

799
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, my family's very close, so we're just

800
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: always sort of everyone's always very aware of what everyone's

801
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, doing, and we all talk. We just talk

802
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: about everything. So the advice is not like any you

803
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: know gem quote you know here and there. It's more

804
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: just like the support and just the time, the emotional

805
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: like understanding that my family has and like, yeah, I

806
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: mean I think all everything I've been saying about things,

807
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: just like trusting that things are gonna work out in

808
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: the way they're supposed to do, and that it's when

809
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: when the job, when you don't get that job, the

810
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: right one is coming next. Like that's a really big

811
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: thing that my my mom has definitely like it believes

812
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: in that a lot and has instill that in me.

813
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I think just like throughout the years,

814
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: my family they come to every show I do everything,

815
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: Like they came to the play like ten times this summer,

816
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: Like it's it's never like so much like wow, that

817
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: advice will stick with me forever and more more just

818
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: like yeah, they get it and know, you know, in

819
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: any scenario, they've been through it all and know how

820
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: to be there, whether that's like I'm gonna let I'll

821
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: deal with this on her own, or whether it's like like, yeah,

822
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: it's really hard, even if it's just the talks about

823
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: like yeah, it's really hard when it doesn't work out

824
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: sometimes and it's like it's hard not to be bitter

825
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: sometimes and it's hard not to like and you know

826
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: they have they've been My parents have been doing this

827
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: for so long that they have like so many experiences

828
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: with rejection and all of that, and they're really amazing

829
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: at like helping me navigate that too. I think just

830
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: like as I say, like emotionally, they're.

831
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: Just having their support.

832
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I.

833
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: Totally get it. I have to ask you, yeah, because

834
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: I loved this show so much, but obviously in your

835
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: play Dealaia, you shared the stage Conrad, and honestly, I

836
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: didn't even know Conrad's real name until I read.

837
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 2: The rundown today, which is Chris Chris Bryney.

838
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: But did you watch the Summer? I turned pretty I didn't.

839
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: You didn't, I didn't.

840
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: I had watched the first season when it came out

841
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: years ago, like so fun but I hadn't watched the

842
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: second season, and then the third season was coming out

843
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: as we were doing the play. That's so funny. You

844
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: were so busy, so busy, and also like I'm we're

845
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: spending every second of every seems he's the greatest, He's

846
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: the sweetest, he's like so was an amassing actor.

847
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: You don't know if you were a team Conrad or

848
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: team Jerma.

849
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: Well I'm not, but obviously I'm biased because you're good Chris. Yeah,

850
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: I got it. No, he's he's the best. And I

851
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: think he's a really brilliant comedic actor, which you know,

852
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't know this on my return pretty so well,

853
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: but like you know, he's he plays like the broody

854
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: one on that and in our play he got to

855
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: be really goofy and silly, and I had a lot

856
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: of fun in this scene that we had together where

857
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 2: he just got to be this like kind of stupid boy,

858
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: and I think we both had a lot of fun

859
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: with that and had a hard time sometimes not cracking

860
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: each other up. There were moments we'd have to like

861
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: look away, deep breath, get back. There were moments I

862
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: had to like show show him like things on this

863
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: prop phone I had, and so every show I would

864
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: try to show him someth thing different on the phone

865
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: that was just like funny and just try to make

866
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: him laugh because you know, you're doing the same thing

867
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, so you got to

868
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: keep it fresh. But he was really great at that,

869
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: and we had so much fun, like all three of us.

870
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: And then it was me and him and then Kiara Aurelia,

871
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: who's she was in Cruel Summer. She's an amazing, amazing actor,

872
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: and so we were the original three and then she

873
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: left to go do a play on Broadway, and then

874
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: Tessa Albertson came in and joined us, and she was

875
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: like amazing. It was just the dream like we I

876
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: had the greatest.

877
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: Amazing all around ever. It really when you know you

878
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: also probably just learned all like you like feed off

879
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: of each other, off of each other so much.

880
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

881
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: What's something about your childhood that would surprise people today?

882
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: Mmmm hmmm.

883
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, you know, people thought I had butlers, Like.

884
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, a butler either. I think there's like that's always

885
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: kind of going to be like, well, the butler's now yeah,

886
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: the lobster.

887
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: No.

888
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I think just honestly, like I was just

889
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: a really like I just I've struggled with like anxiety

890
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: and depression my whole life, and like I'm in an

891
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: amazing place now and over the last like five years,

892
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: I like I got meds and whatever and it's just

893
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: changed my entire life. But like growing up, like I

894
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: there was a lot of like sadness and loneliness and

895
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: stuff and not in like an oh poor me way.

896
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, you know people have.

897
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of even sometimes you're going through it and

898
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't even know why I'm.

899
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: Feeling exactly exactly, And yeah, I think it's just like

900
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: I had. That's when I think about my childhood, Like

901
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: I think a lot about like how anxious I was

902
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: all the time. And I'm sure that like the way

903
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: I grew up also, and like what my family's life

904
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: was probably like fed into that and mesories, not on purpose,

905
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 2: but just yeah, I think there's just like a lot

906
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: of a lot of moving parts and.

907
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean I totally get it. I you know,

908
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I had anxiety before going on Special Forces, and then

909
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: I thought it went away after doing it because I

910
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: was like, this was such a crazy intense thing. But

911
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, anxiety is so weird. You can't control it.

912
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: It randomly flares up on you and it's like this

913
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: horrible feeling that you like feel like your heart and

914
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: like you're you're gonna die. It's just like a horrible feeling. Yeah,

915
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: and I totally I totally get it. I recently just

916
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: had I had a panic attack at Bravo Con. Yeah,

917
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: it was just like in the randomest times and you

918
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: don't know why and they just come out of nowhere

919
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: and it's it's horrible. But I mean, I definitely, I

920
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: definitely see where you're coming from. Sometimes you just get

921
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: into these ruts and you're like I don't even know

922
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: why I'm why I'm in it right now.

923
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: And for a lot of like a lot of my

924
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: childhood there was just like an overarching like fear of

925
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: like the future and of what's gonna happen at any

926
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: given moment, and like like you're saying, like am I

927
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: gonna die like any any time? Like that's like a horrible,

928
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: horrible way to live. But that was like a lot

929
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: of what I what I that would then. And you know,

930
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: I think my family, like we've been through many stages

931
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: of like what are our home life has been, and

932
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: that's also been kind of like public stuff, like you

933
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: were saying, like a lot of personal things being public

934
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: is like really hard, and even when I was a

935
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: teenager and stuff, and I think that had a big effect.

936
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean, looking at back now, I think I didn't

937
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: give as much credit to like how much that being

938
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: like a public thing like my parents' relationship and stuff

939
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: affected me. And but I just feel really like grateful

940
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: to be able to talk about it now because we're

941
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: I just feel like everyone, my family and myself are

942
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: all just in this like better place right now, and

943
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: everyone is just like everyone individually is so happy right

944
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: now and doing what we're all meant to do. And

945
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: I'm just feel very grateful to be able to look

946
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: back on times that were harder and and feel like

947
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 2: to feel excited about tomorrow going upstate to like be

948
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 2: with my my family for Thanksgiving is like in high school,

949
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: I probably would not have felt excited to spend five

950
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: days just the four of us like in a house.

951
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: As much as I've we've always been so close and

952
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: I love them. But I have a little brother. Oh yes,

953
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: you said, he's in college. So now it's just like

954
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: I I I don't take I think because of like

955
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: the weird times my family has been through. Just to

956
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: be totally honest, like I don't take anything for granted

957
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: of like the time we get to spend together now

958
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: and the positive place that we're we're all in right now.

959
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: I love that for you and for you. What is

960
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: your brother? Like is he in the act?

961
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 2: Do you want to guess what he's studying in school?

962
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 2: He's in acting school. It's ridiculous, Like it's so embarrassing

963
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: for all of us, Like he's not embarrassing, it's not,

964
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: it's not embarrassing, but it is in your blood. Hell,

965
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: you know, because at the end of the day, at

966
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it was never gonna not

967
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 2: you know, he's I would see him. He's good.

968
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: You guys have to work for that. It's not like, yes,

969
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: it's in your blood, Okay, it's instilled in you guys.

970
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: You guys saw growing as you guys saw in your

971
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: childhood growing up. Of course it's going to be inspiring

972
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: to want to do it, but you still have to

973
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: work for it. Yes, you still have to go to

974
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: acting classes, train for it, know how to play the roles.

975
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: Like it's not easy, yeah, and especially when you want

976
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: it's not.

977
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: No, it's not easy at all. And it's especially when

978
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: you want to to like you were saying like early on,

979
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: like when you want to carve your own path and like,

980
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: and I really want that, and I really want to

981
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: be doing the things that are right for me and

982
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: what I've always wanted to do. And I know my

983
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: brother does too, and he's trying to figure that out now.

984
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: And but he's always been an incredible actor too. But

985
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: it's like when you like, you know, there is sure,

986
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: there is like an easy way to go, but like

987
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: is that I don't know, that's not really the good.

988
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I feel like it's not as

989
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: it's not as.

990
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: Rewarded, it's not as rewarding. It's not like I don't know,

991
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: It's just I can't. It's also never was really like

992
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: a thing in my family of it was just always like, yeah,

993
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: of course you're going to go to school and do

994
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: the thing and work and yeah, yeah, I don't know.

995
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: It's just was never like and.

996
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: You guys all are like, you're doing this on your own,

997
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: like thank you know, And it's like the same thing

998
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: with anything. It's not like my mom called Bravo construct

999
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: a show so much.

1000
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: Exactly. And by the way, how many people probably think

1001
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: that I just can't even go there next.

1002
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: Year they asked me fell into my left just like

1003
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: all of these roles, yeah, well deserved, and you did

1004
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: so amazing in all of them, I'm sure, and thank you.

1005
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: You know. I would love to see you do a

1006
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: play one day.

1007
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: I mean serious, I hope that my next thing is.

1008
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: A play in the In the show, just like that,

1009
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: stepping onto such an iconic set like that, you were

1010
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: around so many people, but for people don't who don't

1011
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: know what was your role?

1012
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: Okay? So I played uh Brady, who's Miranda's son's baby mama.

1013
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: So I was like about to pop fake pregnant. I

1014
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: had this giant, heavy baby belly and like people like

1015
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: to the point where like on set walking around like people,

1016
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's made of. It's just heavy

1017
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: and it kind of feels like skin. But it was

1018
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: like this like harness like thing, and so it looked

1019
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 2: so realistic that people on set were like getting off there,

1020
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: They're like, oh it sit, here's it. It's it like,

1021
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, oh, thank you. I'm like I

1022
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: should wear this on the train. Just let people give

1023
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: me their seats and help me with my bags and whatever.

1024
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: It looks so real. Yeah, exactly so. But it was

1025
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: crazy like I got to I got to work with

1026
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: I got to work with all three of the ladies,

1027
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: which is like the coolest things like in the city. Yeah,

1028
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 2: it's like, that's the coolest thing ever. I was so

1029
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: so excited and I still feel so excited that I

1030
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: that I got to know.

1031
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: It's insane when you think about the kind of work

1032
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: that you want to pursue. Is it comedy, theater, or

1033
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: something totally different.

1034
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: I want to do everything, always say, but theater will

1035
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: always be my number one love and priority. Comedy will

1036
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: also always be like my number one love and priority,

1037
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: whether it's in theater, on film or TV. I'm also

1038
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: a writer and I've been writing for the past few

1039
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: years and i have a few projects that I'm starting

1040
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: to circulate and I'm really excited about that. So but

1041
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: I always say that, like I want so eventually, I

1042
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: want to be writing the things i'm in, directing the

1043
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: things i'm in, producing the things i'm in, and like

1044
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm in Aries, i want to be in charge like

1045
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: my boyfriend's in arias I'm a Capricorn.

1046
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like Capricorn, you're working determined, but

1047
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: Aries too. You guys got that fire.

1048
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: It's a good pairing. It's a good yeah. But I'm

1049
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: April ninth, April, Okay, nice on April Aries. It's great.

1050
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I want to I want to do

1051
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: all of it. I also am really.

1052
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: Into sixteen, so it's a little later.

1053
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's a little more cuspy, but it's okay, Yeah,

1054
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: it's okay. Yeah, I want to do I want to

1055
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: do everything, and I want to I want to also,

1056
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: like my main focus always is, like especially right now

1057
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: at this time in my life, is like centering young

1058
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: women's stories and like being like a real person because

1059
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: I think a lot of actors. I think we're in

1060
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 2: a time right now where a lot of actors are

1061
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: like not looking real anymore, like as human beings. Like

1062
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: you think that you watch a lot of actors now

1063
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: and you're like, I can't relate to that person because

1064
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: that's not a realistic body or face or whatever or

1065
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: like I don't know, and I just am I'm really

1066
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: missing right now, like that thing of like that art

1067
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 2: and and stories are supposed to be, like you're supposed

1068
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: to see yourself into people. Yeah, exactly, So I really

1069
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: like that's a big thing for me, is that I

1070
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: just always want to like be the voice of like

1071
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: some some young woman who hopefully is like I like,

1072
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: feel seen in some way. Like that's because that's what

1073
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: I look for when I watch things.

1074
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: You know you will you're gonna achieve that when you're

1075
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: not acting. What do you love to do to reset? Mmmm?

1076
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: Yoga?

1077
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: Yogi?

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Speaker 2: I am especially over the last year and last year

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Speaker 2: and a half, I've gotten really into yoga. I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's so I think that all yeah, as much as

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Speaker 2: it's like what I do when I'm not acting, But

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Speaker 2: I do think that all actors should do yoga. I

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Speaker 2: think especially theater actors. I think it's the most amazing

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Speaker 2: way to get you know, it's all about like mind

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Speaker 2: body connection. I think that's what acting is all about too.

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Speaker 2: It's like being in touch with every single like cell

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Speaker 2: in your body and your brain and heart and like

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Speaker 2: just being an open like vessel feeling things and listening

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Speaker 2: and responding. And I think that's what yoga is all about.

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Speaker 2: I also love hanging out with my cat what your

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Speaker 2: Guts Name? His name is Riley Love, and I love.

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Speaker 2: I just love walking in Central Park too. Like that's

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Speaker 2: a big reset for me always. It's like if I

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Speaker 2: am so inspiring to just its like so inspiring and.

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Speaker 1: You could just probably write and think of nothing and

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Speaker 1: look in the sky.

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Speaker 2: That's like a it's very very very healing for me

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Speaker 2: to go for a walk in New York in the

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Speaker 2: park and just like have a day to myself and.

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Speaker 1: Just like the things that you see, you're like, Okay, relatable.

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Speaker 2: I exactly exactly, I know exactly. And then you're like,

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Speaker 2: oh okay, but now I'm inspired for my next Especially,

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Speaker 2: I'm like I get to just be and I'm just

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Speaker 2: a person. It's like, unfortunately it's always going to be

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Speaker 2: an artist.

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Speaker 1: Because you also love your like bra Bo references, and

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Speaker 1: that is my way. That's my ultimate escapism, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because I got into Bravo and reality TV, but by

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Speaker 1: the way, only really Bravo. Like I got into Bravo

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Speaker 1: while I was at Juilliard because I couldn't stand to

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Speaker 1: watch something that was something that wasn't reality TV because

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm learning how to act every day,

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Speaker 1: like I'm getting yelled at for doing this, this, this

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Speaker 1: and this.

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Speaker 2: I'm being told that everything I'm doing is wrong. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to watch TV and then like be thinking

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Speaker 2: that about the actor acting. I don't want to watch

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Speaker 2: people wan I just look natural And it's the greatest Honestly,

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Speaker 2: maybe Bravo coming into my life via the Juilliard need

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Speaker 2: for escapism, maybe that's the biggest, the biggest gift I got.

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Speaker 2: No I'm kidding, but I I it's that is my

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Speaker 2: huge like escapism when you when you have like when

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Speaker 2: you're writing, Yeah, if there's ever like a reference, like

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Speaker 2: a me reference, and then we could like like I

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Speaker 2: could be your reality TV star like in your film,

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Speaker 2: I think I will absolutely take you up on that.

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Speaker 2: I think that my.

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Speaker 1: Mom Danielle and like Jacqueline Marita, I think did it

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Speaker 1: for something so long ago, back in the day, and

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Speaker 1: like I mean, Kim Kardashian is doing it now. Like

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Speaker 1: but you know, just like something funny, I could like

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Speaker 1: pop into your.

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Speaker 2: Film and give you a cameo. I would love that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe in everything, I don't know, I would love that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe my my goal will to be like to

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Speaker 2: have one at least one Bravo star have a cameo

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Speaker 2: on every single thing I make when I'm in charge. Ok,

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Speaker 2: that's maybe that'll be my like deal breaker, Ella, and you'll.

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Speaker 1: Be excited, guys, be an actress.

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Speaker 2: You've heard it here, heard it here.

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Speaker 1: Well, where can everyone find you? Ella?

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Speaker 2: Like on Instagram? Like on Instagram, I'm Ella dot Stiller

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Speaker 2: and yeah, you can follow me and I'm the new

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Speaker 2: season of The Comeback will be coming out in the

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Speaker 2: spring and I'm really really excited about that and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so happy. Well, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: coming on to thank you so much for this is

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Speaker 1: such a fun episode. You're amazing, and like I just

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Speaker 1: I love connecting with people when I'm doing this because

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Speaker 1: you just gave me so much insight on so many

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Speaker 1: things and right you just like get open to like

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Speaker 1: new perspectives and new way and new ways of thinking.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny, like we have a lot in common.

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Speaker 1: We do, And I love that you're in New York.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like forever by the way.

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Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, so we'll get together and the best

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Speaker 1: of luck with everything and your next play. Keep me

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Speaker 1: in mind, so.

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Speaker 2: Your next script.

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Speaker 1: But that is all for today. I love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Bye.