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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services, the Opponent Preview series taking a

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Speaker 1: stop in the Desert. The Arizona Cardinals come to MetLife

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Speaker 1: Stadium in week five, and E. A and I will

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Speaker 1: break down the Arizona Cardinals along with Darren Urban, the

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Speaker 1: senior writer of a Z Cardinals dot Com. He joins

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Speaker 1: the podcast and E. A. I feel like on the

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Speaker 1: East Coast, especially in the Tri state area, the only

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Speaker 1: thing that I know about the Cardinals that is that

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Speaker 1: they have a very talented quarterback and Kyler Murray. They

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Speaker 1: had a splashy off season with the addition of DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: and they're kind of an enigma right now to me

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Speaker 1: because you don't know how good they're gonna be, even

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Speaker 1: though they have pieces in place at key positions, and

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Speaker 1: especially maybe one of the most underappreciated defensive players in football.

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Speaker 1: And Chandler Jones. Yeah, Chandler Jones, the angel Swan Jets

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Speaker 1: freeing the very familiar with him from his days with

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. And you mentioned signature defensive pieces.

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Speaker 1: You talk about Patrick Peterson, who perhaps he's on his

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Speaker 1: way to Canton, Ohio, one of the top cornerbacks in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League still to this day. I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people think maybe at this point it's

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Speaker 1: Tredevious White or uh Stefan Gilmore. But the Jets have

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Speaker 1: had a lot of success against the forementioned Cardinals, even

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Speaker 1: back to the St. Louis Days at home. Anyway, they

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Speaker 1: lost a game to the Cardinals thirty seven to six

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Speaker 1: back in ninety five to open up their series hosting

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. But since then it's meant all Jets victories

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Speaker 1: four and one overall, including a game you were at

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Speaker 1: Greens when Brett Barr went off against the Cardinals fifty

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Speaker 1: six to thirty five. The final score of that one

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Speaker 1: September an eight. But uh, yeah, it's a team that

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Speaker 1: you don't know too much about. I'm reading serious history facts.

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Speaker 1: But the bottom line is, uh, the Cardinals are getting

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Speaker 1: finishing five ten and one last year, because I think

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Speaker 1: people were very impressed with the way Cliff Kingsbury handled

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Speaker 1: that ball club down the stretch, and they do have

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback who can make it happen with his

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Speaker 1: just wanted to say this about Chandler Jones. I didn't

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Speaker 1: just bring him up because he went to Syracusan, so

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Speaker 1: did I. I mean, I really do believe that he

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at his sack numbers e

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Speaker 1: A from twenty sixteen to present, eleven sacks, seventeen sacks,

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Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. I mean, I just feel like

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Speaker 1: same breath of someone like Avon Miller, Khalil Mack and J. J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you don't know a lot about

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, I think that if if you didn't listen

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Speaker 1: to this podcast, you'd be hearing Chandler Jones's name in

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Speaker 1: the pregame broadcast, during the game broadcast. And you know

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Speaker 1: that Adam Gates in this offensive line, We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: that number does not wreck the game. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals did have difficulty stop in the run last year,

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Speaker 1: so that's an opportunity for the Jets. Here on paper anyway,

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Speaker 1: maybe to get that run game on track with Levan

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Speaker 1: is an interesting spot schedule for the Cardinals because it's

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Speaker 1: prime time matchup at Dallas UM. So when I think

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Speaker 1: trade that the Cardinals ship David Johnson to Houston, but

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Speaker 1: I was walking on my way back from a little

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Speaker 1: lot of national people. People seem to like the idea

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Speaker 1: long term franchise this guy. Uh, the Cardinals finally did

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Speaker 1: And he did have a very good rookie season. Uh.

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Speaker 1: the fact that Kyler Murray played sixteen games as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury a mad scientist. He said he sees a lot

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Speaker 1: see from Cliff Kingsbury and year one that has everybody

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Speaker 1: whatever else you want to think about him, for whatever

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Speaker 1: that's really all he likes to do in a lot

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Speaker 1: They kept it very close to the vest. And he

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Speaker 1: I think he morphed his offense as the year went on.

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Speaker 1: I think that when it comes to Cliff Kingsbury, that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing is he is willing to change uh

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Speaker 1: that's that can be a rare thing for a coach. Darren,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the anticipated jump of a lot of the

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Speaker 1: external media, a lot of the national guys think Kyler

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Speaker 1: Well with Kyler, I think you're you're just in a

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Speaker 1: the offensive line needed to get better, but a lot

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Speaker 1: And that's where the DeAndre Hopkins thing comes in. You know,

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Speaker 1: He's not Larry Fitzgerald a two thousand and eight and

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Speaker 1: thirty seven whatever. He is going into a seventeen season.

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Speaker 1: So when you have DeAndre Hopkins at the top of

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray's going to have enough weapons around

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Speaker 1: And the thing about Hopkins is he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: guy like Hopkins has never covered because he just comes

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Speaker 1: down with the football. Uh, you know, he is definitely

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Speaker 1: the young Kyler Murray. But again, he'll be facing a

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Speaker 1: Greg Williams defense, and Williams loves to get exotic with

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Speaker 1: his schemes. Is his second year quarterback. If he can

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Speaker 1: get a lead, maybe he can show some things that

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Speaker 1: maybe he did not see in his rookie season. And

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Speaker 1: as Darren Urban mentioned, this is a guy who will

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Speaker 1: struggling to identify maybe where that pressure is coming from.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Jets can get a lead and then tee

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Speaker 1: off on this very talented young signal caller. I do

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Speaker 1: also like where this spot falls into the schedule for

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Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos, and you mentioned the lack of familiarity.

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Speaker 1: You got ten days to prepare for the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: in Week six, whereas the Cardinals are sitting here in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a three game road stretch, So I

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Speaker 1: would say advantage on paper. Anyway, you like where the

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Speaker 1: Jets are at. And that was another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Preview series rolling on here. Next up, we're going out West.

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