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Speaker 1: Dore listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frattle. We are

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Speaker 2: Comedy Alive from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. We'll take you up to three am Pacific,

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Speaker 2: six am Eastern, an absolute jam pack show. It is

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Speaker 2: here eleven hours. We are eleven hours away from our

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Speaker 2: first full Sunday NFL slate. And of course there are

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Speaker 2: already a couple of games and the books. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that later. And oh, there's this little thing called

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Speaker 2: college football that's underway, and you know what, you love it.

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Speaker 2: You can't leave without it. It's unpredictable, it's fun, it's fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes well less of course you're Alabama, Michigan, Texas, Florida

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Speaker 2: or Clemson will have one loss. But I digress. And look,

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Speaker 2: even though the Week two slate on Saturday didn't look

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Speaker 2: nearly as enticing as Week once on paper was face

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Speaker 2: the Week one was a banner. You had three matchups

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Speaker 2: featuring top ten teams have happened since nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean you still can have some interesting

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Speaker 2: results and some head scratching takeaways. By the way, last week,

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Speaker 2: I watched USF at home in that ninety degree heat

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Speaker 2: ride Boise State like a stickhorse, and I didn't know

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Speaker 2: if it was humidity. Boise States maybe slightly down this

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Speaker 2: year from what they were last year. Still a quality program.

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Speaker 2: The USF always recruits. Well, they're always competitive. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to beat them. But what they did Saturday to

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Speaker 2: Florida has our attention, and it should. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Florida has only itself to blame for. Frankly, was a

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Speaker 2: bit of a brutal loss to USF, not because USF

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Speaker 2: didn't earn it. But think about this, and I know

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for my buddy Jason Stewart the Dodgers tonight.

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Speaker 2: What happened to them Saturday night. I'm unthinkable. That's just

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Speaker 2: a story for a different day. They'll be okay in October.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm all over the place. Let me get

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Speaker 2: back on topic. The Florida Gators had one point lead

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Speaker 2: over the South Florida Bulls less than three minutes to play. Okay,

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Speaker 2: then they go three and out and they run a

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Speaker 2: grand total of ten seconds off the clock before having

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Speaker 2: to punt. Then Florida said Oh, what the hell, we're

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Speaker 2: in a charitable mood. Let's help the bulls out. That's

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Speaker 2: the South Florida mascot, the Bulls. Let's give him a

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Speaker 2: couple of defensive penalties, including an incredibly boneheaded, unsportsman like

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Speaker 2: penalty interjection when Gators defensive lineman Brendan Bett spit in

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Speaker 2: the face of an old lineman for USF NM Cole Skinner,

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Speaker 2: Who the hell do you think he is? Jalen Carter?

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Speaker 2: What's all this spitting now somewhere where Berto Alomar is

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Speaker 2: probably smiling? And says Bill Robanowski, But again I digress

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Speaker 2: the Bulls. That'd be the Florida. South Florida Bulls all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden quickly get themselves in the position to

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Speaker 2: kick the game winning field goal and bam, good night, folks,

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Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for coming Drave home safely. This is an

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Speaker 2: undeniably bad loss for Florida and coach Billy Napier, who

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Speaker 2: now you have to wonder is his seat hot again?

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Speaker 2: By the way back to USF, because we are in

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Speaker 2: the area now where everything feeds into the college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: That's how you think. It's only Week two? And you

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Speaker 2: may say this sounds like a little premature, but there

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Speaker 2: are only so many opportunities for wins in non conference play,

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Speaker 2: and USF has made the absolute most of its opportunities

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Speaker 2: in their first two games, and by the way, they

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Speaker 2: have an upcoming matchup against Miami next week. But the

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Speaker 2: South Florida Bowls now have a dominant win over Boise State,

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Speaker 2: which I just mentioned. They're the team picked to win

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Speaker 2: the Mountain West and return to the CFP, which they

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Speaker 2: were in last year before losing Dependent State, and as

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Speaker 2: now they have a road win over an SEC team.

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Speaker 2: That resume, by the way, is significantly better than what

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Speaker 2: Boise State had non conference place season to go. And

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Speaker 2: the Boise State Broncos not only comfortably made the CFP,

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Speaker 2: they are in the first round. By now we know

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Speaker 2: they're switching everything around. They ain't going to happen next

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Speaker 2: year now. USF is still going to have to win

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Speaker 2: their American conference to be in legitimate contention for the

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Speaker 2: Group of six CFP big But having head to head

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Speaker 2: wins over a league you'd be compared to Boise State

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Speaker 2: Florida in your back pocket. I'll tell you what don't

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Speaker 2: piss it away. You're off to a great start. They're

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Speaker 2: They'll be the highest ranked group of six gent give

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Speaker 2: it up to their coach, Alex Gulish. This is a

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Speaker 2: very impressive start to this season. Another takeaway, Okay, relax people,

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Speaker 2: arch Manning is going to be fine. He didn't ask

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Speaker 2: for any of this. He doesn't drive a Bentley, have

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Speaker 2: a Mister T Starter kit, walk around like he owns

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Speaker 2: the world. Arch Manning. Yes, he benefits from his last name,

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Speaker 2: and he should because pedigree matters in sports. And he's

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Speaker 2: want the Heisman, doesn't matter. I don't even think he cares.

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Speaker 2: He wants to win ball games. You know. He went

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Speaker 2: into Ohio State and Matt Patricia dialed up one of

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Speaker 2: the most sophisticated defense. This guy's in coverages and blitz schemes,

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Speaker 2: and Manning was not sharp. He missed a lot of

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Speaker 2: passes too. And I'm also told a little birdie told

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Speaker 2: me he might have had a tweak in his shoulder.

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Speaker 2: He's throwing shoulder, but they're never going to report that now.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine how this past week has been for Manning.

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Speaker 2: He didn't ask for all the excessive light, but it's

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Speaker 2: gonna follow him all season. There's no other college player

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Speaker 2: that's going to be scrutinized as he will be. And

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Speaker 2: he deserves credit for bouncing back. Yes, it was against

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Speaker 2: Santue State. Five touchdown performance through for four, run for one.

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Speaker 2: He needed to have that kind of game. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: I say this in air quotes because he's a All

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Speaker 2: D one players. They all get scholarships, they all compete

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Speaker 2: in air quotes an inferior opponent. Okay, it wasn't all pretty.

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Speaker 2: It took Manning a little bit into the first quarter

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Speaker 2: to get going. Even when he threw the touchdown passes,

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Speaker 2: they weren't really nice, crisp on target with a tight spiral,

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Speaker 2: kind of like Bryce Underwood that kids got a hose. Dude,

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Speaker 2: he's the goods, accurate velocity. I don't know why sheer

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Speaker 2: owned mor than turn them loose. You paid twelve million

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Speaker 2: for the guy. What are you gonna buy a twelve

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Speaker 2: million dollar card park in the garage? Okay, Now, some

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Speaker 2: people have concerns about Manning's arm, angle and footwork. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he's a work in progress. He's gonna be fine. The

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Speaker 2: goals for him to be getting better each week and

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Speaker 2: each week after. For that, he'll get more comfortable and

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Speaker 2: Offentually they'll open up the offense for him. Now this

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Speaker 2: I still got the still rock in a mullet. Uh.

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Speaker 2: This is where you know, you your brain goes on vacation.

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Speaker 2: You put your mouth in charge. He opens his mouth

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Speaker 2: Mike Guandy before the Oregon game, criticizing Dan Lanning and

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Speaker 2: Oregon spending habits. And you don't think Oregon saw that

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Speaker 2: ninety nine. But Gunny said that the Ducks should only

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Speaker 2: play teams with budgets similar to there as a non

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Speaker 2: power for sitting head coach to another power for sitting

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Speaker 2: head coach. Gundhy preemptively was already making excuses. No one

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Speaker 2: they were gonna you know, he was gonna get They

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Speaker 2: were gonna open up Canada. What passed on them? And

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Speaker 2: Everybody saw through it. Landing and his star quarterback six

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Speaker 2: How about them Cowboys? And after the sixty six point win,

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Speaker 2: the transfer quarterback Dante more Kid from Detroit didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: Ea c La said, quote, when you attack our head coach,

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Speaker 2: it's like you're attacking my dad, You're attacking a family member.

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Speaker 2: We were going to keep the foot on the neck

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Speaker 2: and make sure we score these points and try to

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Speaker 2: break the scoreboard. End quote. Yeah, maybe think before you speak,

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Speaker 2: Mike Kendy, Well, all do respect. By the way, I've

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Speaker 2: always believed that John Mattier, who came over from Washington State,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Well, Saturday night, Oklahoma knocked off Michigan

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Speaker 2: twenty four to thirteen in Norman Matier counted for all

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Speaker 2: three touchdowns in the game, two on the ground, one

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Speaker 2: He was the standout in the game that was incredibly

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Speaker 2: that Michigan front. The flip side, of course, is that

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Speaker 2: Michigan did not seem to trust their passing game with

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Speaker 2: true freshman quarterback Bryce Underwood. Take the training wheels off him.

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Speaker 2: He's won me over. He can do it. I know

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Speaker 2: that Michigan has a somewhat unproven receiving corps and they

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Speaker 2: were without their tight end Martin Klein. He was kind

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Speaker 2: more of a credit to Brent Venables Oklahoma defense and

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Speaker 2: what it means for that unit to be directly coached

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Speaker 2: a women's prison with a fist full of fifties. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: a big newon kickoff, Desmon Howard picked Michigan. What a

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Speaker 2: shock said the bogus uh uh play last week against

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Speaker 2: New Mexico and the bogus target you call it, well,

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Speaker 2: it was helmet to aelme. Dude, watch the tape. Please.

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban pick Michigan, Pat McAfee picked me. Why why

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Speaker 2: I don't know why these knuckleheads have to make predictions

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Speaker 2: this was a huge win for Oklahoma and a big statement.

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Speaker 2: have got to take Oklahoma more seriously. Again, John Mattire

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Speaker 2: not bad passes one hundred one yards, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Right on, I'm not gonna give a bunch of statistics,

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Speaker 2: but the Wolverines, Oklahoma's defense held Michigan to two hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty eight toll yards and one of them was

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Speaker 2: on a seventy five yard run two hundred and thirteen

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Speaker 2: yards in this man's college football is tough. Michigan will

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Speaker 2: be will be okay this year, there'll be nine to three,

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Speaker 2: eight and four. They'll be respectable. Turned Bryce Underwood loose.

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Speaker 2: Justine Hayes, a transfer from Alabama, ran for a buck

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Speaker 2: twenty five, and this was a very hostile environment. You

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Speaker 2: given the chance, I mean good seeing these blue blood

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Speaker 2: programs hadn't played in fifty years. But when Oklahoma went

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Speaker 2: you knew that was gonna be pretty much it. Takeaways again.

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Speaker 2: Sherylan Moore doesn't seem to trust Undero at least neck

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Speaker 2: and they got Central Michigan next week. He was under duress,

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Speaker 2: never seemed comfortable, but I still think they've dialed on

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Speaker 2: the playbook. Oklahoma. Meanwhile, they weren't great running the ball

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Speaker 2: Always before I start. We had a Rick corkerh wanted

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Speaker 6: You know. It's one thing to be in in which

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Speaker 6: So it's one thing to forget about putting in for

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Speaker 6: I have never videotaped the Circuit Contest Westgate Contest, never

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Speaker 6: it's funny. I wasn't planning to even talk about that,

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Speaker 6: but of course you're so good at your job, that's

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Speaker 6: just to let you know, I am going with Denver.

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Speaker 6: saying that not really the Eagles kind of that you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, I was on Jason McIntire show Thursday. We do

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Speaker 2: You know what if I told you that somehow Dallas

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Speaker 2: I digress. You're spot on, crack. I just want to

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Speaker 2: You're spot on about Denver. Now I'm not in line

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Speaker 2: day in Denver. What Sean Payton has done and bo

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Speaker 2: you're rock solid with that pick. If Denver loses that game,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I was actually surprised to sell them.

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Speaker 6: If he notice this today when the when the picks

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Speaker 6: So so yeah, did every team someone picked. This is

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Speaker 6: I mean it's unbelievable. And how about, like you said,

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Speaker 6: hundred different people that are forgetting to put their picks in,

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Speaker 6: So it's all to talk about Las Vegas. There is

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Speaker 6: I'm really happy and proud to be part of it.

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Speaker 6: So I want to get by this week, and we

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Speaker 6: There's so many moving factors, so many things that in

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Speaker 2: All that means nothing.

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Speaker 6: I'm not a trend guy, by the way, I don't

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Speaker 2: Talk with Bill Krackman the legend and by the way,

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Speaker 2: krat Divisional Dogs Week one seventy two percent, and we

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Speaker 2: reasons for this, all right, week one. Most teams are

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Speaker 6: And like I said, I'm not really I'm not a

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Speaker 6: their season wins over this year. I think they're knocked

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Speaker 6: down just so much. I mean the Giants are like

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Speaker 6: five and a half flat this year. I mean, can

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Speaker 6: they not go literally, can they win six games?

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Speaker 7: Really?

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Speaker 6: I like the coach there too. You know, he came

431
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Speaker 6: from Buffalo. First year wins the wins coach of the year,

432
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Speaker 6: and then he you know, it goes backwards for the

433
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Speaker 6: next season. I'm hoping he those good this this year.

434
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Speaker 6: But I do like the Giants with the points there myself.

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Speaker 2: They got a solid defensive front. They're going to be improved,

436
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: and I think you're going to get the benefit of

437
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: the doubt on their on their lines until the market

438
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: figures them out. So we're an agreement there. Gott to

439
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Speaker 2: hold your nose on this one. But I actually played

440
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Speaker 2: the Browns plus six at home against Cincinnati, notoriously slow starters.

441
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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 6: Game, same thing there. I'm also leaning to the dog there.

443
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Speaker 6: I can't release that one now though, I can't say

444
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Speaker 6: because the line with six before, so right now it's

445
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Speaker 6: a no bet at five. But I do like Cleveland

446
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Speaker 6: in that game. Cincinnati really broke a lot of hearts

447
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 6: last year, and the survivor pulls in Vegas knocked a

448
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Speaker 6: lot of people out multiple different multiple weeks. But yes,

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Speaker 6: I do lean to the Battle of Ohio there and

450
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Speaker 6: Cleveland there and maybe reliving some of the old dog

451
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Speaker 6: the Dogtown days.

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Speaker 2: Moving along now, this is this game. I have not

453
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Speaker 2: fired on the Seattle Seahawks catching well, they were catching

454
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Speaker 2: one two and a half. Now they're catching one and

455
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Speaker 2: a half against the forty nine ers. I do think

456
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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey will play. I don't know his calf, it's

457
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Speaker 2: gotten a little too trendy for me. Everybody's in love

458
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Speaker 2: with Seattle, and I don't know what Sam Darnold is

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Speaker 2: week one, so that's not a game I'm on. I'm

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Speaker 2: breaking my own rule. But you have another divisional dog

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Speaker 2: at home getting points. You have thoughts on forty nine

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Speaker 2: or Seahawks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I am. I'm actually on Seattle there past two

464
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Speaker 6: and a half. Yes, you're right, lines down to about

465
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Speaker 6: a pretty solid one right now, and you're right though.

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Speaker 6: That scares me. Every single syndicate and when I say Sydney,

467
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Speaker 6: I'm a sports betting syndicate. Every single syndicate is on

468
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Speaker 6: Seattle on that game, so that kind of scares me

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Speaker 6: when everyone's on the same side. It's the home opener

470
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Speaker 6: in Seattle down to like one right now. I probably

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Speaker 6: believe it or and I know people don't think it's

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Speaker 6: a big difference from one to two and a half.

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Speaker 6: But with analytics and coming, you know, and it plays

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Speaker 6: into the game now, I believe it or not. Every

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Speaker 6: one and two points that does mean a little little

476
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Speaker 6: more now, but I still lean Seattle in that game.

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Speaker 6: So I am on the three dogs in a row there.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, I'm just going over these divisional dogs. This

479
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: was a year of their eight divisional games Week one.

480
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: That's more than normal. It's usually there's four, sometimes five,

481
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 2: but I can't recall when there's been eight. The Bears

482
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: catching a point and a half against the Vikings JJ

483
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Speaker 2: McCarthy making his first start. I also have not fired

484
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Speaker 2: on this game. I don't know how Ben Jhonson is

485
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Speaker 2: gonna work in Chicago. Do you have thoughts in this? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Sure. This was probably the first game I bet of

487
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Speaker 6: Week one. I bet this a few months ago when

488
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Speaker 6: Chicago was actually a favorite, giving one and a half.

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Speaker 6: So I actually I have Minnesota plus one and a.

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Speaker 2: Half for a pretty healthy bet.

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Speaker 6: But a lot of sharp guys the other way. My

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Speaker 6: buddy Steve says he came in on the Bears and

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Speaker 6: now he's neutral to the game. But so I actually

494
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Speaker 6: did get off a little bit, just a little bit

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Speaker 6: on the Bears. I have both teams plus one and

496
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Speaker 6: a half. Never would bet those teams try in the

497
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 6: middle game using the zero not really something I do.

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00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 6: It's the middle games. But I am on Minnesota there

499
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 6: still stick with my side. I made some bets for

500
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 6: Minnesota to make the playoffs this year. We're CONTRARII on

501
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 6: the other side of that, I bet Chicago not to

502
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Speaker 6: make the playoffs. So it's actually a big game for me.

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00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 6: Probably my biggest game of the week will be this game.

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00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 6: Lots of the features depend on it and to spread

505
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Speaker 6: any Minnesota in that game.

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Speaker 2: Moving on, just two more, the Falcons getting two and

507
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Speaker 2: a half against Tampa Bay. I'm very high on Tampa Bay.

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00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: I don't know what you get week one with Atlanta

509
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: and Michael Penix. I haven't fired on that game either.

510
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: Do you have an opinion on side?

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00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 6: And that game has a major line moved down to

512
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 6: around pick them or even there's a couple of ones

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00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 6: Tampa minus one. It was two and a half. Some

514
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Speaker 6: of the key sports books here in town, like Circa

515
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 6: are at pick them right now.

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00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: Ye steam coming in at Atlanta. There's that much.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, right now Circus that pick if you go

518
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 6: to the even that some of the places that make

519
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 6: the lines in far off places, they're actually uh, they're

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00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 6: actually Atlanta minus one. So yeah, it's there's been a

521
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 6: lot of money out Oftlanta the last for forty eight hours.

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Speaker 6: I tend to agree with it. I do have the

523
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 6: dog there well, they were the dog there, Atlanta the

524
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Speaker 6: home team, but you're right, Tampa's no slouch either. People

525
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 6: kind of laugh at that at this game, and yeah,

526
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 6: it's really really not going to mean nothing. Well, I

527
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 6: don't know these you know, these teams look to improve

528
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 6: year after year and this this year is no different.

529
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 6: But yeah, give me.

530
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: Atlanta in that game, and Tampa Bay did lose. Liam Coleen,

531
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Speaker 2: a brilliant offensive coordinator who's now the head coach in Carolina.

532
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: Which brings us to our last game. They're catching three

533
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Speaker 2: and a half against Jacksonville. Thoughts on that game.

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Speaker 6: You know, in the Survivor I used a couple of

535
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 6: picks on Jacksonville just in case something funny happens over

536
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 6: there in Denver, and I think, you know, Jacksonville was

537
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 6: a three and a half four point favorite. I thought

538
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 6: it was a good pick for Survivor. However, with the points,

539
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 6: I'll probably go again with an underdog there. I did

540
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 6: not bet game, and out of all the games we've

541
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: we've mentioned today, that's part of my least favorite out

542
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 6: of those games. But if anything, now I do lean

543
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 6: to the points they're taking, Caroline. I know they're they're

544
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 6: an ugly team, and I'll tell you what, Jacksonville is

545
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 6: pretty ugly too, So you have a battle of two

546
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 6: ugly teams. But there's actually a four out there now

547
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 6: here in town. Circa Circa has a four up on Jacksonville.

548
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 6: If anything, I lean lean to the dog there with Carolina.

549
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Sure, all right, last game I want to ask you about.

550
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: Let's take you to our hometown Raiders. Here. They're catching

551
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: three eight and I've even seen some two and a half.

552
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: Marie Cooper retires. I think New England is going to

553
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: be dramatically better. They've completely revised their culture and you know,

554
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: new head coach, revamp the roster, Drake May in his

555
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: second year. They also have the easiest strength to schedule

556
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: in the AFC. But a lot of Raider money has

557
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: come on. How do you justify the Raiders in this game?

558
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, but this this game looks like it's a pretty

559
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 6: solid minus and a half minus juice. Like you said,

560
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 6: a couple threes out there, three dog money.

561
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

562
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 6: Personally, I'm going to be rooting for the Raiders in

563
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 6: this game for reasons of them actually playing the over

564
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 6: on the season wins on the Raiders. I just you know,

565
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 6: early in the season. I bet under nine and a

566
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 6: half minus two to one, thinking to myself, there's no

567
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 6: way these Raiders to be ten ten wins. Come on

568
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 6: ten win Raiders team. And but but you know, I've

569
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 6: actually changed my tune there using my guys who I

570
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 6: really trust. These guys are the sharpest guys in the world,

571
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 6: the analytics guys, Guys that you know read so many socials,

572
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 6: Guys that follow the beat reporters. And even though I

573
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 6: live here in Vegas, I kind of don't really followed

574
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Speaker 6: our Raiders that that well. And uh, these my one

575
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 6: guy I trust, my number one source. He likes the

576
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 6: Raiders over for the year, I said, okay, I'll do

577
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 6: it over over six and a half season wins. So

578
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 6: I'm going to be rooting for the Raiders just for

579
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Speaker 6: that that future standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough? Correct, great stuff. As always, thanks

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Speaker 2: for staying up. We'll see you soon over at DOMS.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you're back on the air six

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Speaker 2: am Pacific contown to kickoff. Correct.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna be on seven. We just got moved

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Speaker 6: to seven o'clock. We were doing six even last week

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Speaker 6: six am. But I'll be on seven am tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 6: Jeff Schwartz, Bryan, they'll countdown the kickoff.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to it.

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Speaker 6: Bernie, thank you very much for having me on anytime

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Speaker 6: you want me on. I don't mind staying up for you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to see you soon.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: there is no way that I know anything about what

641
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: the hell happened here. So I'm not indicting the Clippers.

642
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: I'm not defending the Clippers. I don't know what happened.

643
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: But according to Pablo Torri, the Clippers allegedly he has

644
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: evidence they allegedly circumvented the salary cap to pay Kawhi Leonard. Okay,

645
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: Apparently there was some tree planting company that went bankrupt,

646
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: and this was back in twenty nineteen. I'll never forget

647
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: this julyish and right out of the blue, some people

648
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: thought Kawhi was going to the Lakers, et ceterat c

649
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: he signed a three year, one hundred and three million

650
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: dollar contract to leave Toronto and go to the Clippers

651
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: in free agency. The NBA actually investigated the Clippers pursuit

652
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: of this crazy, mysterious frugal star who over these allegations

653
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: that his camp had sought improper benefits. But according to

654
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: Tory's investigation, Leonard also convertly signed a twenty eight million

655
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: dollar endorsement deal with a company name Aspiration, which purforded

656
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: to help companies go carbon neutral, had had financial ties

657
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: to Clips owner Steve Balmer with no actual marketing obligations

658
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: right around when he signed a twenty twenty one extension

659
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: in la per the contract. Effectively he was free money. Okay, Now,

660
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: the implications of this are massive, both on an NBA

661
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 2: level and as part of a government investigation. There's also

662
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: plenty more in the news report which I needs to

663
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: be released in lengthy statement. There's also a lengthy statement

664
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Speaker 2: issued by the Clippers claiming innocence, and they seem to

665
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: be buttoned up on the reply. So you know where

666
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm going with this. I want to hear from the callers,

667
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: who do you believe do you believe this happened? Do

668
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: you believe they finagled this to circument the salary cap

669
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: so Kawhi Leonard could get an extra twenty eight million

670
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: off the book, so to speak, allegedly. And that's how

671
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: he ended up a Clipper. That's how he ended up

672
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: a Clipper. And it's a funny because they talked about

673
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: being paid for a job he didn't have to show

674
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: up to well, he hadn't exactly. He showed up to

675
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: the Clippers a lot if you haven't noticed. But I

676
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: digress again. I'm digressing all night tonight. So that's topic

677
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: number one. I really want to hear what people think.

678
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: Who do you believe is there whether smoke, is there

679
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: fire here or what? And you know what, could this

680
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: have happened elsewhere while we were all sleeping and other sports?

681
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: Is it possible? But mainly stay with the Clippers. The

682
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: second topic, Look, Jalen Carter did something ridiculous on Thursday night.

683
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: I really heard his team and it's a type of

684
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: Regis act when you just don't have impulse control that

685
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: you do. I think Dallas was going to give them

686
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: a tussle anyway. But we saw Roberto Alomar do this

687
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: with the Toronto Blue Jays many years ago. Bill Romanowski

688
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: spit in I think JJ Stokes face a wide receiver

689
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: of the forty nine ers. I'm doing off the top

690
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: of my head. He did one hundred years ago, and

691
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: now Thursday night he spit at Dak Prescott, who, by

692
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: the way, I know I've picked on Prescott a lot

693
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: over the years. He looks sensational. He looked like a

694
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: guy you might need to pay sixty million. Everything he did,

695
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: his physical attitude, his cuddle presence. He was dropping dimes.

696
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: I Cede Lamb caught a ball. They might have won

697
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: that game. But again I digress. What would you do?

698
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you commissioner for a day now. The

699
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: NFL has said they're going to meet out additional punishment.

700
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: From what I'm hearing, though, it's not going to be

701
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: a suspension. And don't tell me he's been suspended. He

702
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: was kicked out of that game. Okay, wasn't suspended for

703
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 2: that game. He was there and got kicked out. I

704
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe it wants the suspension, maybe it doesn't.

705
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: But they always say the law is a teacher, and

706
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: so what the turn is there? Because now you got

707
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: a kid for Florida's spin, it's how Florida kids face.

708
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: What is this? So the bottom line is I think

709
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: the NFL is going to do something. I don't know

710
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: what it'll be. For some people, it won't be enough.

711
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: For other people, they'll think it's too much. You know

712
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: how that goes. So tell me what you think. You

713
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: get to be commissioner for a day, what would you do.

714
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: I don't think I suspend him for a game, but

715
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: I'd find him. I'd find him a ton. And I'm

716
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: not talking about one hundred grand I'm talking about probably

717
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: maybe three times that much one time. Go home. Shut up.

718
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: You said they're not gonna do it again. You know

719
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: it's the old thing, like the injuries. Oh, I'll learn

720
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: and grow from this. No no one ever does. All right,

721
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: So you got the Clipper story, the Jalen Carter situation,

722
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: and Caitlin Clark is shutting it down for the rest

723
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: of the year. After not missing a single game in college,

724
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: after not missing a single game or fruit full year

725
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: in the WNBA, she played a grand total of thirteen

726
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: games this year and had some kind of groin injury

727
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: and she's now going to miss the rest of the season.

728
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: She would not be back for the playoffs. Now, this

729
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: might be a bit of a reach in terms of topic,

730
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: but it's not a zero. Do I believe it'll happen. No,

731
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: but it's not a zero. So what's the question. Do

732
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: you think it's possible Caitlin Clark's done with the WNBA?

733
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: She could play in Europe. She's already proven to have

734
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: a high Q factor. There's no doubt David Dennis Junior

735
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: is gonna get his wish. You're gonna get playoffs with

736
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: alf Katelyn Clark. We will see. If the ratings suffer,

737
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: we will see. So do you think Caitlin Clark maybe

738
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: just packs it in? Not packs it in? In basketball

739
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: a life? But as far as the WNBA is concerned,

740
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: I'm not predicting that. But it's not a zero. So

741
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: we've got the Clipper situation involving Kawhi and the phantom

742
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars. I want to know who. Do

743
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: you believe Clippers have denied it pretty eemily? If you've

744
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: got Jalen Carter spitting in Dak's face, what would you do.

745
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: The NFL is gonna do something, but I don't know

746
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: how much it'll be. Finally, Caitlin Kark, you won't see

747
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: you the rest of this year in the NBAWNBA. Will

748
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: you ever see you again in the w NBA? Is

749
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: it possible? Or do you want to bring your own topic?

750
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: Come with a rent? If somebody used to say, have

751
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: a good take, don't suck, we'll run you. We won't

752
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: run you. We don't run anybody. Eight seven seven nine

753
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: nine six six three six six nine eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: ninety nine nine. Fox. It's the Bernie Frattle Show. The

755
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: midnight hour is up next. Keep it locked Fox Sports Radio.

756
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

757
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: That's right. You heard the man. Bernie Fraddle Show keeps

758
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle. We're coming

759
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: to you a lot from the Fox Sports Radio studios

760
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Will take you after three in Pacific,

761
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: six am Eastern, just getting started and it should be

762
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: a rockets been that hour. We've got the Clippers topic.

763
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: Who do you believe Kawhi or Pabulatory or the Clippers?

764
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: Rebuttal Jalen car Well, I don't think the NFL is

765
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: gonna suspend them. They say they're going to do something.

766
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: We don't know what, but what would you do? You

767
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: get to be commissioner for a day. And then finally

768
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, after thirteen games, she shut it down. Did

769
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: miss a game in college? Did miss a game all

770
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 2: last year in the WNBA? Thirteen games this year? Will

771
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: she It's not a zero. I'm not predicting it. Do

772
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: you think she just bolts the WNBA on for other

773
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: pastures in life, maybe basketball overseas, whatever, She's got options.

774
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: All right, let's go out to the phone lines. Poppy

775
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: in San Diego lead us off today. What do you

776
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: got Poppy?

777
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 8: Hey, Bernie, Well look about the Kawhi Leonard. You got

778
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 8: the perfect person right here from San Diego State. Right here,

779
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 8: she's from San Diego. Actually saw Kawhi Leonard when he

780
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 8: was in San Diego State. My alumni if they got

781
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 8: this fan and I told my you know, college, you

782
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 8: know friends and stuff like that, Kawhi Leonard's gonna go

783
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 8: to the NBA is gonna be big. They all laugh

784
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 8: at me. I got his autograph and like, he who

785
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 8: do you believe?

786
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: Pappy? I love you man. We got callers in weight

787
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they love to hear your life story.

788
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: But this is gonna be one of those nights' ben

789
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: have time.

790
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 9: Well, this is where I'm going, Berni.

791
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 8: He just gave me time. I'm cooking slowly over here

792
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 8: in San Diego. I can tell you this on college

793
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 8: Kawhi Leonard, he would go to a marijuana shop and

794
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 8: he would go under. One of my friends said that

795
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 8: he knows the owner of a marijuana shop. This is

796
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 8: breaking news. I've said nowhere. He would go under and

797
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 8: send his buddies to go buy marijuana. So Kuwhi Lanner

798
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 8: would not answer. He would send his friends. So regarding

799
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 8: the owner, I believe you know to hear the fact,

800
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 8: Wishie Washi. I believe he did do something with the marijuana,

801
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 8: because of course he's involved in that universe.

802
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: So believe who do you believe? Do you believe the

803
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: Clippers or do you believe uh Pablo Tory that this

804
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 2: happened to twenty eight million under the table.

805
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, I believe it happened. I believe it happened. Okay, sorry,

806
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 8: I need to hear.

807
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: How about Jalen Carter? You get to be commissioner for

808
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: a day. What are you gonna do?

809
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 8: Well, this is what I would do, Bernie. Look, I'm

810
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 8: commercial for a day. Jack Prescott, what I saw he

811
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 8: provoked on whatever he said. I'm not a liberator, but

812
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 8: I saw he provoked him.

813
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 7: He's painting at him.

814
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: First, that's not justification that. Come on, now, he spent

815
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 2: on the ground fifteen feet away.

816
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, well he did spit on him.

817
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: But so what you so you're gonna do? You're not

818
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: gonna do anything to him, you feel you feel this.

819
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 8: I I want to spend both of them. I was

820
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 8: to fend them, and I would find both of them.

821
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 8: I was to spend him for walking Dak Prescott your offer,

822
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 8: and then I was to spend Carter, and I would

823
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 8: find them too. I would find both of them. So

824
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 8: Carterner like two hundred thousand, Dak Prescott one hundred thousand,

825
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 8: I will find both of them.

826
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's an interesting take. Okay, all right, all right?

827
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: Moving along, Caitlin Clark Poppy, do you think it's a

828
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: chance a situation where you may never see her again?

829
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 8: Well, I hope not, because he's one of the greatest

830
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 8: of all time. You know, kind of don't want to

831
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 8: talk too much about that, but I do want to

832
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 8: see her. She's like a Michael Jordan's She's a go

833
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 8: to women's basketball. It's just I think she's doing this

834
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 8: I prove a statement. She's not going to compete a

835
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 8: lot of Bernie, And what I do want to talk about.

836
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 8: I'm very excited running the NFL tomorrow. I'm really excited

837
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 8: to see bone Neck and cam more thing that's I'm

838
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 8: really interested about that one. And I think bonus.

839
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: All right, Pop, good listener. I love when you call.

840
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: But we were a little all over the map today,

841
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: Jim in Massachusetts. Lead us off, my friend. I love Poppy,

842
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: but lead us off the way we need to be

843
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: let off, Harry Bernie.

844
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 10: As far as the what happened in LA, I'm with

845
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 10: the ownership. I think they researched it and found a

846
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 10: way to get more money. You know that was legal,

847
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 10: and what are you going to do? All you can

848
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 10: do is close that loophole. So I'm with the ownership

849
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 10: on that, which I would have given him the money for.

850
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: Who it was. So you you you tell me that

851
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: you believe Pablo Tooris and Trupid reporting is in fact

852
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: accurate and he'll be proven correct.

853
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 11: Yes, I do.

854
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 10: I do believe that because because they always look, they

855
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 10: always look for ways to cut corners, you know, and

856
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 10: if they found that out, and you know, they'll have

857
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 10: to stop other teams from doing it now.

858
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: But well, you know, you know, don't You don't get

859
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: to be a billionaire by being a greeter at Walmart

860
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: with all due respect, all right, exactly moving, which is good,

861
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: good work. By the way, By the way, uh Jalen.

862
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 10: Carter, you know, j I could care less about that.

863
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 10: He got caught spitting. They all do it, Bernie.

864
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 12: I'm old school.

865
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 10: If I was commissioned for a day, there'd be no

866
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 10: in the grass, there'd be no taunting. It would be

867
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 10: back to eighties football again.

868
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: You know.

869
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 10: I'm so sick and tired of watching going to see

870
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 10: the sports scores, you know, I picked my bets and

871
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 10: at ESPN at the bottom, they're running the fantasy football thing.

872
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 10: You know, gamb One's got too much involved in that.

873
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 10: I don't believe we should be playing football around the world,

874
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 10: lest take games over the Saudi Arabia. You know, let

875
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 10: them come here and watch it if they want to watch.

876
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: Well, at that part, I they're they're really kind of

877
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: growing the game internationally, but fair enough so you you

878
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't you'd leave Jalen Carter alone. They kicked them out,

879
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 2: move on. Nothing to see years.

880
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 10: Basically what you're saying something they throw him on the game,

881
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 10: So what you know, big deal, They all do it.

882
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 10: He just happened to get caught right in front of

883
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 10: an official appoll.

884
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: You know, there's so many, can't I mean Bill Romanowski

885
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: got caught too. You remember that back in the day, Jr.

886
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 10: Well, you know what the thing is? That The thing

887
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 10: is now, Bernie, you got children and man's bodies playing

888
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 10: that game now.

889
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 9: I mean, that's you know, I go.

890
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 10: Back to the eighties, you know, eighties and early nineties,

891
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 10: and football has just gotten all about money and gambling

892
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 10: now whatever. As far as Caitlin clock goes, walk girls walk,

893
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 10: you know, because it's not gonna be Do you.

894
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: Think do you think she will? That's that's the thing.

895
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: Do you think she will? Jim? You know, I don't

896
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: know how serious his growing injury was, but to basically

897
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: miss the last two full months of the season after

898
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: not missing a game in college and not missing a

899
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: game or go ahead.

900
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 10: Why would you stay somewhere where they had what like,

901
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 10: uh what was it like thirty flagrants fowls in the

902
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 10: league or something seven?

903
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: I get that.

904
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Why would you Why would you ask them

905
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 10: more punishment like that when you can make trillions of

906
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 10: dollars going someplace else.

907
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: So do you think do you think she? Do you

908
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: think she'll stay or go?

909
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 11: Go?

910
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 10: Because I don't think.

911
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate appreciate you, Jim, always always appreciate you. Man.

912
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: Thank you, Stephen, Kansas City, You're up next. Let's start

913
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: with the Clippers and problety and what are your thoughts?

914
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 13: Okay, Uh, Bob blows right. Nobody cares because I can

915
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 13: deal with these. I could deal with these pretty patch.

916
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 13: Uh the what what was the Jalen story?

917
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 11: The space?

918
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: Well, Jalen Carter, you saw it if you watch the

919
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: game Thursday night, I'm sure you saw it. Uh. He

920
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: spit in Dak Prescott's face seven seconds into the game

921
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: and that was it. He kicked him out. Now, the

922
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: NFL has said they're going to meet out some punishment.

923
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: We don't know what it is.

924
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 13: I think what would solve all of this instantaneously? I

925
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 13: agree with you one hundred percent. Burnie that that the

926
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 13: monetary fines don't do anything. I would mandatory community service,

927
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 13: have Jalen referee the flag football NFL flag football tournament

928
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 13: for days on it for two or three days in

929
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 13: a row, and that would instantly stop all the spitting

930
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 13: that that.

931
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 10: Was just.

932
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: How about this if he was forced to attend a

933
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: w NBA game every night for a month to have

934
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: your choice. But Jalen, you got your choice. You go

935
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: to a w NBA game every night for a month

936
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: or thirty days in jail. Right, And we hear the

937
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: story later. I'm sitting in my cell and my roommate

938
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: turns on the WNBA game. I say, turn that off

939
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: because you turn it back on or I'm going to

940
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: hit you over the head with a back well, so

941
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 2: sitting in the hospital. Anyway, go ahead.

942
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 13: We would get rid of every fight in the NFL.

943
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 13: And about Caitlin, I think the smartest course of action.

944
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 13: And I've heard rumors that she may be firing filing

945
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 13: a federal complaint for an unsafe working environment, which would

946
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 13: be great?

947
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: Is that joy?

948
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

949
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 13: That the rumor was going around that she is going

950
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 13: to uh, she is going to say that the referees

951
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 13: were notified this year that they should stop, they should

952
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 13: clamp down on the action in the regular season. They

953
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 13: did not do it. And and if she and then

954
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 13: she can make she can make three or four times

955
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 13: in the Big Three with ice Cube. They offered her

956
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 13: a ten million, fifteen million dollars contract. She just had

957
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 13: to keep.

958
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 6: She has to keep.

959
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: Playing the she's got Yeah, she's set for.

960
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, she has to keep she has to keep playing

961
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 13: in the WNBA because of the thirty to forty million

962
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 13: dollars Nike deal. Now she could still play and collect

963
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 13: her salary and still will sue the w NBA because

964
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 13: they're not doing anything. They're not changing. And back in

965
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 13: the day, in the Jordan versus the Pistons, they would

966
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 13: sort of, you know, they had to relax the fouling

967
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 13: during the regular season and nobody would go to the postseason.

968
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 13: The Pistons would put Jordan on. Remember what came in

969
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 13: the lane? You know that you were there, Yeah, but you.

970
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 14: Know all about that.

971
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: But Jordan will get a.

972
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 13: Handle on this. We've got to get control control the

973
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 13: w NBA.

974
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: Well, one thing, Steven and Chuck Day was the architect

975
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: of that, but it was within the framework of the game,

976
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: and the live ball team has been physical. Other players

977
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: have been treated physical. They've singled her out. Obviously, you

978
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: can't deny that. I just want to say one thing.

979
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: Do you remember the file She's standing around by the

980
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: low post last year, Kennedy Carter slams her from behind.

981
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: The ball's dead, there's no play. She slams it from

982
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: behind the floor. The Angel Reese is over there clapping,

983
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: jumping up and down like she just won the power ball.

984
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: There were just do nothing. The commissioner does nothing. I'm like, Okay,

985
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: now you've really got my attention because they're doing it. Now.

986
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 13: They're doing it to gals away from the basket like

987
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 13: Sophie Cunningham from a zoo. I mean, we have got

988
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 13: to get The only way is for federal regulators to

989
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 13: come in and save them from their from themselves and

990
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 13: God bless Kaylen. She can do whatever she wants to

991
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 13: go get another job, but I would love to see

992
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 13: her shoe them first and then and then make more

993
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 13: money and then get the Nike money and the Big

994
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 13: Three money, get the Nike money.

995
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 2: She can do both right out of the gate. Steve,

996
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: thanks so much, Poppy with Kawhi at the Headshop and

997
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: jim My man Uh with his strong take, and you know,

998
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: and then and now Steve all right, Martin in Orange, California,

999
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show. I love to hear

1000
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: what you got to say.

1001
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 14: Hey, Bernie, glad to be on, Glad to hear you back.

1002
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 14: I'm going to go in a little bit of reverse order. Sure,

1003
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 14: and that Kaitlin cart I'm I'm I'm a simple man.

1004
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 14: I'm not thinking about the money. What I'm thinking about

1005
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 14: is is it the competition? Are they too fierce? Are

1006
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 14: they too physical for her? And if that's the case,

1007
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 14: going to Europe acting to health because because now she's

1008
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 14: going to be a high name American playing in the

1009
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 14: European League. So I got to think she got to

1010
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 14: ask herself, is this what she wants to do? Is

1011
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 14: it about the money or is it about winning? Is

1012
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 14: about being the best? Those are two different things.

1013
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: So you know, she's already got fourteen w NBA records

1014
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: in her first year and a half. No one ever

1015
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 2: mentions that fourteen and oh, by the way, she's the

1016
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: all time league scoring college basketball Continue.

1017
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 14: On, Martin, bringing as soon as she hit the floor,

1018
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 14: she broke records, because that's how weak that league is.

1019
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 14: But let's go on to the next thing. I saw

1020
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 14: that spinning thing, and I thought, Deck's You know, I've

1021
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 14: been to Texas. I know how them boys are. They

1022
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 14: like to they like to spin on the ground where

1023
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 14: you at, kind of like disrespectful. And I think Jalen

1024
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 14: just reacted, and of course he overreacted. Shouldn't be punished. Yeah,

1025
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 14: I don't think he'll be missing the game, but I

1026
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 14: think you gotta find him the money, Bernie. And I

1027
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 14: know you don't think the money does anything, but maybe

1028
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 14: you gotta make it like a lot of money.

1029
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: So these guys, well, no, actually the caller a paraphrase.

1030
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: I actually didn't say that, Martin. I said I'd find

1031
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: him three or four hundred grand. No, I don't care

1032
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: how much money you got. You can't tell me you

1033
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 2: lost three hundred grand that day and had a good day.

1034
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: So you want to try, you you want to try

1035
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: to create a deterrent so other people don't do this.

1036
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: Continue on, Martin.

1037
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 14: I completely agree you need that deterrent. I mean, the

1038
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 14: last thing was the Clippers whose probatory was right. Of course,

1039
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 14: the Clippers are trying to circumvent the league. Of course

1040
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 14: they've been trying to win.

1041
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 15: That's just how it is.

1042
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 14: No is the legalities of it. Is it gonna hang

1043
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 14: out that they did something wrong? I don't know. Baumer

1044
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 14: is a very smart man.

1045
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: The NBA is going to investigate this pretty vigilantly.

1046
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, so I know he probably, But what what he

1047
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 14: came out and he's like, oh, no, we didn't do that.

1048
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 14: Oh I don't know about that. Can you remind me

1049
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 14: of Ronald Reagan? Oh I had no recollection. Oh I

1050
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 14: don't know what's going on in my own house. Come on, man,

1051
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 14: you had to have known. You had to have known

1052
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 14: what's going on.

1053
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna find out. And I don't think Pablo Torri,

1054
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: who's a respected journalist, Harvard guy, been around the block.

1055
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: You know, I have a degree in journalist. You don't

1056
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: come out with something like this without confirming it with

1057
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: a couple of sources. I don't know. Again, I'm not

1058
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: taking sides. Martin a great, great call, my man, I

1059
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Don't be a stranger. We are off to

1060
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: a raucous start. Hang tight, Stephen Connecticut, Sam and Rochet

1061
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: and hollering James in Minnesota. You're up next eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six,

1062
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: six three sixty nine. I want to hear from you

1063
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: on the Midnight Hour. Caitlin Clark, is she a gonner?

1064
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: I doubt it, but it's not a zero. Jalen Carter,

1065
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Speaker 2: you know where we're going with that? And the Clippers.

1066
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: Steve Balmer, what happened with the phantom? Twenty eight million?

1067
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: Football is back for the best pregame show every weekend.

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00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,160
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1070
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: count you down to all the biggest games for three

1071
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: hours right up until kickoff, for all the best plays

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Speaker 2: and up to the second injury news. Tune into Countdown

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1074
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Speaker 2: morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, the Midnight Hour continues. I'm Bertie Fratto or

1076
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: come to your line from Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bertie Frattle Show

1078
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,560
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00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1082
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 3: listen live.

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00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.

1084
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: A raucous and fun start to the midnight hour. We're

1085
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: unpacking this Clipper story that's picking up steam. Kawhi reportedly

1086
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: paid twenty eight million for a no show job, and

1087
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: you can't lie. He didn't show up a lot with

1088
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: the Clippers, right So anyway, ah, Jalen Carter your commissioner

1089
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: for a day, what do you do about this? Kicking

1090
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: him out enough? Caitlin Clark played thirteen whole games this year.

1091
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: She's gone for the rest of this season? Anyway, Is

1092
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: it possible she never returns to the WNBA and continue on.

1093
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: We go out to Steve in Connecticut. Steve, thanks for

1094
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: having on hanging on, Buddy.

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00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 16: K doing good.

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 7: Bye. I just want to say on the just spitting

1097
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 7: it Bober story, the.

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00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 11: Spitting incident there, sure.

1099
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 7: The guys should get thrown out of the league, to

1100
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 7: be quite honest, because that is an arrestable of sense.

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: It is you know, You're exactly right, it is.

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00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 7: And I just think what he did is just totally disgusting.

1103
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 7: Now to the Caplin Clark thing.

1104
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think she should go. She should go.

1105
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: Do you think she will, though, that's the question because

1106
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: she has all kinds of options. There's opportunities around the

1107
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: world to play basketball, and she's got marketing opportunities. The

1108
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: WNBA is just come on, anyway, continue on. Do you

1109
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: think she will? I mean, I know he will.

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00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 7: She will. I'm pretty sure she will. I watch a

1111
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 7: lot of the w n b A and the groin

1112
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 7: injury when it happened, you couldn't really tell that it happened.

1113
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 7: So I just think she got discouraged with all the

1114
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 7: fouls and all the playgrounts against her and everything. And again,

1115
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 7: like the other callers said, the league wasn't really doing

1116
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 7: too much about it in.

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00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 6: A federal protection for her.

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Speaker 7: So that's where I stand on that anything.

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Speaker 2: A lot of Clippers in the Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 7: Story not too knowledgeable of that. I just heard about

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Speaker 7: it yesterday, so I don't know.

1122
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Speaker 6: To be honest with.

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Speaker 2: You, all right, I appreciate your candid opinions on the

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00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: other two. I don't think there's of course, they're not

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00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: going to kick him out of the league. They won't

1126
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: do that. But you have to do something. It's got

1127
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: to be a deterrent, uh. Jalen card I always apologize.

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Speaker 2: We're going to learn from this. Where they all read

1129
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: from the same script, We're gonna learn from this. Yeah,

1130
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Speaker 2: I almost almost set a swear around the air took

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00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: us Sam in Rochester Joint. Just welcome in, Sam, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 17: Thanks Berry, So Caitlin Clark, I'm not qualified because I

1134
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 17: haven't seen that one dribble of the w NBA. So

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Speaker 17: let's move on from that. Okay, Kawhi, He's not the

1136
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 17: first professional that has been paid under the table. I'm

1137
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 17: sure there's been countless situations where to skirt the salary cap,

1138
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 17: they've offered positions after they retire, et cetera. I'm sure

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00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 17: that's happened in every sport.

1140
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: But think about this. Think about this, Sam, because he

1141
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: was a free agent in the summer of twenty nineteen.

1142
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: Nobody thought he was going with the Clippers. Nobody, but

1143
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: he did. And so if you entice a free agent

1144
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: by circumventing a salary cap, the ramifications of that are incredible. Now,

1145
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: I get it. People getting golden parachutes, whatever type you're

1146
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: not wrong maybe about people who do things like that.

1147
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: But he was enticed, allegedly paplatry that he took this

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Speaker 2: money to no show job anyway. So that's where I'm

1149
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: going with that. Do you who do you believe? Do

1150
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: you believe it happened?

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00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 10: Absolutely?

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00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Bring up another really good point, Sam, that

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00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: you don't think this is nicely the case?

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Speaker 10: Do you absolutely not? This has happened countless? Guy?

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Speaker 6: For sure?

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01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 17: You're telling me Jerry Jones hasn't.

1157
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 6: Hasn't put a little bit.

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Speaker 17: Of money under the table to name player go back

1159
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Speaker 17: to the nineties or watch all this stuff on Netflix.

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Speaker 17: Hayley Dion, I'm sure he gave them tons of money

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Speaker 17: under the table.

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Speaker 2: Wow, wouldn't that be some I see. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't say you're wrong. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not just I appreciated anything else, Sam, good call

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01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: anything else?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: So sticking with the Cowboys, right, So, Jalen Carters, are

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Speaker 17: we sure that Dak didn't spit at his feet on purpose?

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01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: Well, we know, we know that was provocative. Sam. He

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01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: was back and they were John and Jack said he

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01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: kind of spit on the ground, which is a little

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01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: bit of a kind of innocuous f.

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Speaker 13: You I did it.

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Speaker 17: But why does nobody care that Carter has passed the

1175
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 17: ball two steps away from the offective uttles?

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Speaker 2: Those are all excellent points, everyone knows.

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Speaker 9: I think that maybe he.

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Speaker 17: Was giving a little warning shot. Possibly he wasn't trying

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Speaker 17: to spit on the guy. Just get close enough to say, hey, man,

1180
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Speaker 17: why you're trying to join my huddles.

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Speaker 6: This is offense.

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Speaker 10: Sorry, bud.

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Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, thanks, thanks a lot, Sam, don't be a stranger.

1184
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: We do this every Saturday night, hitting into Sunday morning.

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01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: You know, Dak Prescott's short turned one hundred percent clean either.

1186
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 2: But look, man, you can't go around in life being

1187
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: trigger happy and have some sort of unhinged your irrational

1188
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: attitude because something doesn't go your way. You there are

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01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: going to be repercussions. Okay. You know if I'm standing

1190
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: in line at to buy my lunchables and somebody goes, hey,

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01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: you ugly Italian, and I go what boom? And I

1192
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: punched the guy again. I know where I'm sleeping that night.

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01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to jail. It's as salt and battery and

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01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: they don't have good food there, and I don't look

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01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: good orange jumpsuits. So you have to show restraint, and

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter never has. That was just not coming out

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Speaker 2: of Georgia. All right, I'll get off my I'll get

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Speaker 2: off my soapbox. There hollering James in Minnesota. This ought

1199
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Speaker 2: to be good. What do you got forrest? Tonight? Holler

1200
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: and James three two one. Nice to talk to you,

1201
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: my friend. You waited on line for that. You're an

1202
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: American hero. Jim in Florida joins us. Welcome in, Jim, How.

1203
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Speaker 6: Are you, Barnie?

1204
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 16: He gets around, isn't he?

1205
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: I like to keep my audiences riveted. Maybe he really

1206
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: was sleeping. Who knows, maybe I put him to sleep.

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Speaker 16: Hey, many many years, many hours of entertainment. First time called.

1208
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Speaker 2: Though, Welcome in. Don't be a stranger.

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01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 14: No, I uh wanted to.

1210
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Speaker 16: Talk a little baseball, even though I know it's uh.

1211
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, we go ahead, rant. If you got a rant?

1212
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 2: What do you got go ahead, Bud?

1213
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Speaker 14: Yeah, we got this.

1214
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 16: Tampa Bay situation here where they're actually playing pretty good baseball.

1215
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Speaker 16: And uh, even though it's an outside chance, it's a

1216
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Speaker 16: possibility they can make the playoffs. Yep, Sure they've got

1217
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 16: a stadium, the Holes eleven thousand.

1218
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: My my wife and I were there in Tampa in

1219
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: in May and and we were gonna go to a

1220
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: Yankee game. They were playing the Yankees at and I said,

1221
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 2: you know who, I'm not going to go to that stadium.

1222
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't anyway. Yeah, you got a real issue there,

1223
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: Go continue on.

1224
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, so say say they miraculously.

1225
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 11: Just get him.

1226
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Speaker 16: The playoffs went round one. Where's where's that game going

1227
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 16: to be played? Where's the series gonna be playing? Is

1228
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 16: Banford gonna let this happened? Where we could inevitably have

1229
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 16: a World Series in the stadium the Holes.

1230
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Speaker 2: Eleven It's really that's a that's a that's a brain

1231
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 2: teaser there. Look, I don't like to create problems that

1232
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,479
Speaker 2: don't exist yet try to solve them. But I would

1233
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: say this, if if it got to that point and

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01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: it's not a zero, I would suspicion they would play

1235
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: their home games in say Miami's home ballpark, okay, up

1236
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: to Tammy.

1237
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 14: Move or would they move them to.

1238
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 16: Yankee Stadium because that ballpark is a minor league board.

1239
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: For Kate, well, that's where they're playing now, That's where

1240
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: they're playing now in the regular season because of the

1241
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: tornado that took the roof off, that that Tampa Bay

1242
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: Goofy Dome. Anything else, says Uh on the topics we have, Jim,

1243
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: other topics.

1244
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 16: Yeah, just a suggestion that Blakeswell ages uniform number to

1245
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 16: five because that seems to be the the number endings

1246
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 16: he's willing to give for his twenty five million.

1247
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 13: Dollars a year or whatever he is.

1248
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 16: He is such an underachiever and just him at Glasgow

1249
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 16: are just they are part of the problem with the Dodgers.

1250
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: Just I don't know.

1251
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 16: What Dave Roberts said last night was just inexcusable.

1252
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: Now that I have to agree with it, I like, Dave,

1253
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: you pull a guy because you got no bullpen, and yeah,

1254
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: you gave up the hit. But then come on, you know,

1255
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens in October. Hey, good stuff, Jim,

1256
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: appreciate you man. Uh, check back in with us, Zach

1257
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: in New Hampshire, joint us. Welcome in Zach Bernie good. Thanks.

1258
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 18: So when I come to the full situation, it kind

1259
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 18: of seems like something off the soprano. So I and

1260
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 18: Tony would work with that sanitation company just for the

1261
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 18: w two like that's the first thing I thought.

1262
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 2: Of as Talian, this is really a story. I gotta

1263
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, Zach, this is really a story.

1264
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to follow because I just think it has ripple.

1265
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: It's like throwing a pebble in a pond and watching

1266
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: the ripples. I just feel like this has Yeah.

1267
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 18: It's incredible, especially like uh le Broun, like Sack, like

1268
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 18: he's a godfather of the NBA. I mean, this is

1269
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 18: more of some godsfathers stuff right here.

1270
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm almost a little speechless, uh that that this

1271
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: this could happen and we have smart callers. It's not

1272
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: as zero. I just don't know enough about it. Do

1273
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: you have anything about the Jaalen Carr situation or Kaitlin Clark.

1274
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1275
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 18: The Jalen Carter thing kind of reminds me of that

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Speaker 18: episode of Sign So where Keith Hernandez.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, you saund like you you remember when Robbie

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01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: Alamar did it with the Blue Jays spent in the

1279
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: umpire's face it for a couple of games back.

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01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 10: In the night.

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01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 18: I was born in eighteen high so all.

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01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: Right, fair enough, Uh that Jalen Carter, you get to

1283
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: be commissioner. What would you do? I'll find them and

1284
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: move on, right, I think, yeah, you can't go over

1285
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: what you gotta do something. You gotta do something. He's

1286
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 2: gonna feel even just a little bit, all right, Zach,

1287
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 2: appreciate you man. Thanks for checking in tonight. Al And

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: des Moines, Iowa. I'm looking for this call. I like

1289
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: all our calls, but I'm guessing from where you're calling from.

1290
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: You have a real take on Caitlin Clark.

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01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 9: Am I right, yeah, that is exactly why I called.

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 9: I could be wrong, but she's not going to leave

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01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 9: the w NBA. Okay, rely right, it's if you have

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01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 9: followed her. What has always been her dreams since she

1295
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 9: was a little girl was to play in the w

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 9: n B A and two. She's not going to leave

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01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 9: with them winning.

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01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 14: Quote unquote with them.

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Speaker 9: You know, she's going to come back with a vengeance

1300
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 9: next year. Hopefully she gets stronger, tougher, you know. But

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01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 9: there's no way she's leaving.

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01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 11: I wish she would.

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think she will, at least not this year.

1304
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: I think she's coming back, and she's under contract. I

1305
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: just I've heard people speculate that they believe that she's

1306
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: thinking about that. I have no nothing, no substance.

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01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I have no I don't know anyone that

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01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 9: I don't I don't know anything.

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 7: That's just my god.

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01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think your take is rational because

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01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: she seems like a rational person. So it's I give

1312
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: it maybe a one percent chance tops, but it's not

1313
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: a zero. The thoughts on the clippers, uh, and.

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 9: You have you know that that that's hard to Uh,

1315
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 9: it's just hard to know because I mean, I.

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 19: Does it really surprise you.

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01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 9: If it did happen? I mean maybe this is something

1318
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 9: that's been going on for years and a lot of

1319
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 9: the professional sports, and that is going to be interesting

1320
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 9: to find out if they have evidence on that.

1321
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know what you asked a good question.

1322
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: Would it surprised me? Yes? But no, but here And

1323
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: that's allows the answer. If I could ask Pabltry one

1324
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: question right now, I would ask him, what is the

1325
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: predicate that caused you chase your story in the first place?

1326
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: What happened somebody tip you off? What? So you see

1327
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. There had to be predicate somewhere and

1328
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: he really ran with it, right?

1329
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean that that's going to be interesting

1330
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 9: to see. And then as far as Jalen Carter find him, really,

1331
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 9: I think you find him and you suspend him a

1332
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 9: game or two. I think you got to control your emotions.

1333
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 9: You're you're you're watching control. I don't know.

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01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: Of course you do, of course you do.

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01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 9: I don't know. Isn't the worst thing in the world

1336
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 9: to spit on somebody? I don't frost, But I think

1337
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 9: you got to have control of your emotions and there

1338
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 9: needs to be a message sent.

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01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 19: So that's it.

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01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a lot, al Rick and Louisiana.

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01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 11: Welcome in, Rick, Awry, buddy, all right, thanks Bernie for

1342
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 11: taking a call.

1343
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: Sure, now were you today doing well? My friend this morning,

1344
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: my name was not in the obituary, Colm, So I

1345
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: had breakfast?

1346
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 11: He all right, starting with Kawhi. Yeah, they quiet. It

1347
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 11: was just another way of giving getting him some money.

1348
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 11: So I believe that, you know, hey, they he's not playing.

1349
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 11: You know, he's missed a lot of basketball and he

1350
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 11: still got paid.

1351
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: So well, it's a no show in all seriousness. You

1352
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: know what's interesting is because we got smart callers, the

1353
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: vast majority believe this really happened. I haven't heard one

1354
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: person say, oh, no way, you believe it probably really happened,

1355
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: right Rick?

1356
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, okay.

1357
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: So let's let's let's just play this out for just

1358
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: a second for fun. Let's say they uncover substantial evidence

1359
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: to prove this. What does the NBA do? Are there

1360
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: legal ramifications? Uh? And does this perhaps uncover other situations

1361
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: of this nature, not maybe just in the NBA, with

1362
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: other sports?

1363
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I may it may be a bigger problem

1364
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 11: than we realized, or I'd say a problem, a different

1365
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 11: thing that's going on that behind the scenes, that you know,

1366
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 11: just to cover up. I guess, you know. So that

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01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 11: doesn't shock me that that really doesn't shock me though.

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01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 2: No, uh, anything on Caitlyn Clark and or Jalen Carter, Jayleen.

1369
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 11: Carter, I think that hidden hitting him in the pockets

1370
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 11: sends a message to the other players. Yes, you'll sit

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01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 11: to yourself.

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01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so, I do. I don't. I don't

1373
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: think to spend them or you know, you can't penalize

1374
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 2: the rest of the Eagles, right.

1375
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 11: The third thing with Caitlyn Clark, you know, I said

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01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 11: a while back when they were comparing her to Jordan,

1377
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 11: I was like, no, she hadn't done anything yet. So,

1378
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 11: but as far as her going somewhere, I don't think so.

1379
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 11: I said a while back that I think that the

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 11: w NBA needs to miss her for a while.

1381
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: You know, I want to ask you one last question,

1382
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: but before we get to the next caller, Rick David

1383
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 2: Dennis Junior a year ago said it's his wish that

1384
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: there would be a playoffs with all Caitlyn Clark and

1385
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: we would see that the ratings don't really drop. Well,

1386
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: he's gonna get his wish. I don't. You don't have

1387
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: to see what happens if the ratings do really drop.

1388
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: So if they do miss her that way, do you

1389
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 2: do expect her to be a drop in ratings?

1390
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 11: Yes, all right, I do one more rant, one more rant.

1391
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 11: I had one thing that I want to say is

1392
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 11: that you said of weeks back that you did not

1393
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 11: think that, based on your sources, that Jerry was going

1394
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 11: to pay Michael.

1395
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: That's right, yes, sir, Thank you for remembering that this

1396
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 2: was different than the Cede Lamb Zach Martin, Dak Prescott.

1397
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: This one had a little different feel to it, and

1398
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: I was told that by people that this one might

1399
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: and not in the same way. I wasn't one hundred

1400
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: percent sure, but I felt like that was very much

1401
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: on the table. Rick, Thank you, appreciate you checking in.

1402
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: As always, when we come back, Steven, Los Angeles will

1403
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: be up next, wrapping it up with the Midnight Hour.

1404
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. Uh, she's done for the year. But do

1405
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: you expect her to be back in the w n

1406
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: B A or might you have other pastures? Jalen Carter,

1407
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 2: what do you do? You're the commissioner for the day.

1408
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: Can't be spitting on people and this clippers uh kawhi

1409
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: Leonard Uh. I just got a funny feeling. This is

1410
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 2: really gonna take root and the story is gonna grow.

1411
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: And the callers have been pretty pretty vehement about the

1412
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 2: fact they do believe it happened.

1413
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1414
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 2: I gotta wait and see. I'm Bernie Fradderwick coming to

1415
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: your line from Las Vegas Fox Sports Studio Radios. Yeh,

1416
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 2: keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show

1417
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're wrapping it up

1418
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 2: on the midnight Hour. I'm Bernie Fraddiwick coming to you

1419
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Yes, we'll take

1420
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern and

1421
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 2: on top of the r Actually, we're gonna have Mark

1422
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: Medina Medina Magic, and you can bet we'll be diving

1423
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: into the Clippers story in depth. Stephen Los Angeles joined

1424
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 2: to Steve. Welcome man.

1425
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 6: How are you hey, Bernie?

1426
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 15: Before I get into your three subjects and I want

1427
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 15: to tackle the Flippers first, but I want to say

1428
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 15: to you. I spoke with you a couple of weeks

1429
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 15: ago when we were talking about the Saduro Sanders issue

1430
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 15: and whether there was possible collusion occurring amongst the owners,

1431
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 15: and at that time I said that I thought that

1432
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 15: there could be. But before I get into that, I

1433
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 15: want to say that we also were talking about Jake

1434
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 15: Paul and although I'm a few years older than you, Bernie,

1435
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,839
Speaker 15: doesn't matter. I can learn from anyone. And you caused

1436
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 15: me to think, take a second look at how hard

1437
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 15: and my attitude was towards him, because boxing is in

1438
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 15: my background and in my blood, and I do acknowledge

1439
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 15: that if he has what he's done in the ring

1440
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 15: and what he's done in order to be in shape

1441
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 15: to step in the ring and stay standing up in

1442
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 15: the ring, that he does deserve more respect than I

1443
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 15: gave him a couple of weeks ago.

1444
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 2: Sir, I accept all that, thank you.

1445
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 15: Now. The Clippers issue is the thing that I said

1446
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 15: about possible collusion. I have to admit that I think

1447
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 15: that there's potential of collusion more often than not. I

1448
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 15: was in Las Vegas in the nineteen seventies and eighties

1449
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 15: when the mafia had a hold of that town, and

1450
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 15: when he you know, in the teamsters, when you talk

1451
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 15: about collusion and talk about that, that's almost like the

1452
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:54,919
Speaker 15: American way. There's so much under the table and behind

1453
01:15:55,000 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 15: closed doors and smoke filled rooms goings on, almost a

1454
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 15: part of a professional expectation.

1455
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: It rises to a whole. I'm not disagreeing, but this

1456
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 2: rises to such an exorbitant level. Steve, do you believe

1457
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 2: it happened? Do you believe that Steve Balmer and and

1458
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 2: uh and Pabulatory will be proven correct?

1459
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 15: Whether they can prove it. That was my issue with

1460
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,879
Speaker 15: the sedure matter. But I do believe that it's so prevalent,

1461
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 15: the ability to blithely and glibly lie that you know

1462
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 15: what comes out of people's mouths Uh. As far as denial,

1463
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 15: you know, I think more often than not they you know,

1464
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 15: it's are to be suspected rather than that that they

1465
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 15: are like pious.

1466
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 2: Fair enough, it's more likely than not anything on Caitlin

1467
01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 2: Clark or Jalen Carter.

1468
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't have anything on Jalen. We all spit

1469
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 15: when we were kids. But that's a juvenile that's a

1470
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 15: juvenile impulse and activity. I mean beyond that, it deserves

1471
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 15: no regard. It's a real imitate to her.

1472
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: Well, you represent the National Football League. I mean that's

1473
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: not good for the product.

1474
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 15: Absolutely, go ahead and Caitlin. I really enjoy her, applaud her.

1475
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 14: Personally.

1476
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 15: I have to say that I think it's a racial

1477
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 15: component that is causing the tension that she's experiencing. I

1478
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 15: deplore it and what she does. I wouldn't blame her

1479
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 15: if she went elsewhere to make her dollars, but I'd

1480
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 15: like to see her staying all right.

1481
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Thanks for hanging on and appreciate your

1482
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 2: thoughts tonight. Steve. For the record, I do not believe

1483
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark will vacate and anytime soon. Maybe in a

1484
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: couple of years, I don't know. But I don't see it,

1485
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: and I don't know what happened with this Clippers deal.

1486
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: All I know is you've got a very respected reporter

1487
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: who's come forth and it started on Pobo's podcast, which

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Speaker 2: is called Pabula, Tory finds out. And I'm told I

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01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,440
Speaker 2: didn't hear the podcast, but I'm told the show featured

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01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: many quotes direct quotes from legal documents, and that made

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01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: the argument in his behalf that Kawhi was in fact

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01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: paid twenty eight mayon through a company owned by Steve Balmer,

1493
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 2: to essentially do nothing. I have no idea if it's true.

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01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: Balmber's accused of using this agreement as a way to

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01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 2: pay Leonard of more of his contract. And if true,

1496
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: it's a violation of NBA rules, and Balmer has vehemanly

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01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: denied it now Pabla. Tory attempted to find the report,

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01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: says he attempted to find any evidence that Leonard even

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01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 2: marketed or endorsed this company called Aspiration all right, but

1500
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: supposedly came up empty. And there was a clause in

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01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: one of the contract documents. I guess he was able

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01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: to obtain that that implied that Leonard could quote decline

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01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: to proceed with any action desired by the company. End

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01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 2: quote essentially given lender of the ability to get paid

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01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: without doing anything. Another clause stated letter would only be

1506
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: paid if he remained a member of the Clippers. Now,

1507
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 2: there was some correspondence from the Aspiration Company and they

1508
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: were sent to a generally named Dennis Robertson, who's Leonard's advisor,

1509
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: who was investigated by the NBA back in twenty nineteen

1510
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: for asking for impermissible benefits. And the NBA completed that

1511
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 2: investigation and found no evidence that the Clippers granted illegal benefits.

1512
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: So this is a highly charged situation, and I think

1513
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,759
Speaker 2: this is a story that's just getting out of the blox.

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: Coming up here at the top of the hour, we're

1515
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: gonna be joined Mark Medina for a little Medina Magic,

1516
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 2: and you can be sure we're gonna we're gonna dive

1517
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: into that. Thanks so much to all demand now our

1518
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,439
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1519
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,559
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1520
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1521
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1522
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1523
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1524
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1525
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1526
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1527
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1528
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1529
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1530
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: of the year, There's always something in the news cycle.

1531
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: Three simple words. It's that time. Our man, Mark Medina,

1532
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: Medina Magic, our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru and Mark,

1533
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 2: it never seems to fail that we have a what

1534
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: I always consider a substantial piece of news story as

1535
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: it were. And I have not heard Pabulatori's podcast, but

1536
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 2: as an educated journalist, and I don't know what the

1537
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,799
Speaker 2: predicate was and started this story, but it's out there

1538
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 2: and I don't know who to believe, but I like to,

1539
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: you know, mine your information with respect to what maybe

1540
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: do you know that we haven't talked about so far

1541
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 2: regarding these allegations of the twenty eight million in Kuhi

1542
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 2: and the Clippers.

1543
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 19: Yeah, well, Bernie, as you a litera to the NBA

1544
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 19: interactively investigating the claims from Pabulatory's podcast where you know,

1545
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 19: he had documentation that mentioned that, you know, the Clippers,

1546
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 19: you know, made this deal with Aspiration, which is a

1547
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 19: company that's now defunct, but at the time they were

1548
01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 19: in the business of planning trees, and they had an

1549
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 19: endorsement deal for Kawhi Leonard that basically gave him twenty

1550
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 19: eight million dollars not to do anything, and that was

1551
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 19: a circumvention of the salary cap. Now, as you and

1552
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 19: your listeners might be aware of, you know, the Clippers

1553
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 19: have put out a lot of statements, you know, as

1554
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 19: an organization saying that you know, these assertions are false,

1555
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 19: they're provably false. Clippers owner Steve Balmer had an interview

1556
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 19: with ESPN's Ramonas Shelburne where he's, you know, said all

1557
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 19: these things are false. But the reality is the NBA

1558
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,799
Speaker 19: is going to verify. And I know that we've talked

1559
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 19: about disciplinary issues in the past under Commissioner Adam Silver,

1560
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 19: and you know, whether it's harsh enough or not harsh enough.

1561
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 19: But I will tell you this, Bernie, if the NBA

1562
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 19: is able to prove it, I think that the Commissioner

1563
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 19: will go down very hard on this because one issue

1564
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 19: that Adam Silver and former NBA commissioner David Stern really

1565
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 19: strongly have. You know a lot of feelings for when

1566
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 19: it comes to disciplinary issues, is for any team that

1567
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 19: circumvents the salary cap because that cuts to the core

1568
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 19: of competitive balance and their hope to have parody in

1569
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 19: the league. So we'll have to see what the NBA

1570
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 19: can prove. But if they are able to prove something,

1571
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 19: I think the punishment is going to be pretty severe.

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01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: Mark, Let's go back to July at twenty nineteen. Wou'd

1573
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 2: that long ago on a scaler one to ten. Almost

1574
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, it was announced that

1575
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Kawhi was a Clipper on a scaler one to ten.

1576
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: How surprised were you that was the team he ended

1577
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: up with.

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 19: Well, I was surprised only because of the history that

1579
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 19: the Clippers aren't known for getting big guys and the

1580
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 19: Lakers are known for having that. But it did make

1581
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 19: sense when you think about it, that you know, Kawhi

1582
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 19: he wants to be the number one guy, He wants

1583
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 19: the forges of the path. He doesn't want to join

1584
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 19: a Laker team that are already has Lebron James Anthony Davis.

1585
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 19: The other thing that made sense is that Doc Rivers,

1586
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 19: the Coppers coach at the time, emphasized that by signing

1587
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,919
Speaker 19: Kawhi Leonard, you're essentially also making a move for Paul George,

1588
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 19: because their ability to get Paul George was almost contigent

1589
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 19: on Kawhi Leonard coming there. And so I know, especially

1590
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 19: now that Shakes Alexander has blossomed into a great player

1591
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 19: with the alcohol to see Thunder, He's won a championship

1592
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 19: for this past summer, the Clippers have made it clear

1593
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 19: that even though they technically traded shay Go Alexander, Denilo

1594
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 19: Ga Nari and some draft picks, you know, for Paul George,

1595
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 19: essentially they're doing that to get Kawhi Leonard. Now, as

1596
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 19: you alluded to, this isn't the first time there's been accusations.

1597
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 19: In twenty nineteen, there were accusations that, you know, Kawhi

1598
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 19: Leonard's uncle was asking for a lot of demands that

1599
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 19: fell out of you know, fell out of favor of

1600
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 19: what the NBA allows, and the NBA investigated. It's not

1601
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 19: to say that the Clippers aren't guilty of it, but

1602
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 19: they weren't able to find evidence of this. So We'll

1603
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 19: see if the NBA can find evidence of this. But

1604
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,799
Speaker 19: I think what's different in this case is there's documents here.

1605
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 19: You know now that the company that we're talking about

1606
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 19: is bankrupt. There's a paper trail, and so I think

1607
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 19: it's much more easier to prove.

1608
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 2: Do you know the name Dennis Robertson because I've done

1609
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 2: some research on this and apparently he was an advisor

1610
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: to Kawhi Leonard, who was also investigated by the NBA

1611
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: back in twenty nineteen for.

1612
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:39,799
Speaker 19: Allegeni Well, yeah, that's his uncle.

1613
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that's the uncle. Okay, I didn't know

1614
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: that was his uncle for impermissionable benefits and the NBA

1615
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: apparently completed that investigation just like you said. I said

1616
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 2: this twenty minutes ago, but you just reaffirmed it and

1617
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 2: found no evidence and found no evidence. Look here, I

1618
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: want to give this a left turn. We all know

1619
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: who Publeatory is and he's a highly visible person. What

1620
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 2: would have been the predicate? Mark? Can you speculate that

1621
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 2: allowed Probleatory to dive into this with the mind of

1622
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 2: an intrepid journalist to uncover his bombshell? What was the predicate?

1623
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 2: Did somebody tip him off what happened.

1624
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 19: Here, I don't know. I mean, in journalists do their

1625
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 19: own jobs. He's very reputable. In the last few years,

1626
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 19: he's had a podcast that really dives into long form

1627
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 19: kind of traditional so called investigative journalism. So what he

1628
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 19: did is he looked up documents and connected the dots

1629
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 19: and talk to people. I mean, I can't speak on

1630
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 19: who he's talked to in chapter and verse. That's not

1631
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 19: my job. But I find it very credible and the

1632
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 19: NBA will confirm whether it is or not. The other

1633
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 19: thing that we have to keep in mind with the

1634
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,799
Speaker 19: Clippers is that this isn't their first rodeo with getting

1635
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 19: in trouble from the NBA on circumventing the cap. They

1636
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 19: find the Clippers two hundred fifty thousand dollars for violating

1637
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 19: those rules when it came to the DeAndre Jordan free

1638
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 19: agency sweepstakes in twenty fifteen, and I remember reporting at

1639
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 19: the time. What it pertained to was that the Clippers

1640
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 19: have presented DeAndre with what one source told me was

1641
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 19: a hypothetical deal that entailed an endorsement with Lexus worth

1642
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 19: about two hundred thousand dollars. Now, since then, people around.

1643
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 19: The NBA said to me that Jordan didn't take advantage

1644
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 19: of this possible endorsement opportunity. He wound up signing with

1645
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 19: the Clippers just because of his history with them and

1646
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 19: some I think misgivings on you know what led him

1647
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 19: to want to sign with or give Dallas, the Dallas

1648
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 19: Mavericks a verbal agreement. But the reality is the Clippers

1649
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 19: circumvented the cap And so when Steve Baumber is trying

1650
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 19: to plead ignorance to it, I don't buy it. You know,

1651
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 19: you can't say, you know, you can't say I'm too

1652
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 19: smart for that. But I plead domb on on having

1653
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:18,560
Speaker 19: a business endorsement deal with the company that went bankrupted.

1654
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 19: It's either one or the other. So again, the NBA,

1655
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 19: they're going to have to be able to prove this.

1656
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 19: But where there's smoke, there is fire.

1657
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, thousand percent, Mark, We're gonna let's just follow this story.

1658
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 2: We'll both follow it because the implications are really severe

1659
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: and it's it's not ironic, it's coincidental that, you know,

1660
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: Donald Sterling was forced to sell the team, you know why.

1661
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 2: And I don't want to create problems that don't exist

1662
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: yet or cast aspersions when I don't have facts and

1663
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: hard evidence and this is not my story, but God forbid,

1664
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, the salary cap is sacro sacked. Like you said,

1665
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 2: sanchro sact me the saco sact. Give me, Mark, I

1666
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: haven't been drinking, but I'm that word. You know what

1667
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. And there would have to be

1668
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 2: something very severe if this were to happen. And one

1669
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: last thing we'll get onto your conversation with Jim behind.

1670
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 2: Does this imply on some level that this is maybe

1671
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: not even an isolated incident, that this has gone on elsewhere.

1672
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it's very well possible. Now it's all

1673
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 19: about what can you prove. And I think that one

1674
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 19: thing to keep in mind is that circumventing the salary

1675
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 19: cap that's a much different conversation when it comes to,

1676
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 19: you know, the tampering allegations that almost every team's guilty of.

1677
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 19: When we hear all these deals accreed upon, maybe with

1678
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 19: the exception of this summer, but in previous summers, when

1679
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 19: deals are agreed upon within minutes of when free agency happens,

1680
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 19: that's a much different issue than circumventing the salary cap.

1681
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,839
Speaker 19: I mean that cuts to the core again of competitive balance,

1682
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 19: Big Mark. It's small market spending. And there's almost a

1683
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 19: precedent here former Commissioner David Stern. You know, it's apples

1684
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 19: and oranges. But when the Minnesota Timberwolves they tried to

1685
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 19: disagree with Jose Smith was signed with a bunch of

1686
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 19: one year deals with the idea that they would reward

1687
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,719
Speaker 19: him eventually once they had his Burger rights. They're able

1688
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 19: to see these documents because they're his former agent, Eric

1689
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 19: Fleischer and Andy Miller. They're going through, you know, a

1690
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 19: bitter divorce and a lot of happenings. There were documents

1691
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 19: that showed up in court, you know, about showing these

1692
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 19: different one year deals. And the punishment here was the

1693
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 19: Minnesota Timberwolves are fined three point five million dollars, Their

1694
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 19: owner Glenn Taylor, was suspended for a year, their GM

1695
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 19: Kevin McHale had to take a leave of absence for

1696
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 19: half a year, and the Timberwolves had a four five

1697
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 19: first round picks. So what does this mean for the Clippers.

1698
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 19: I mean, you do the math here, They're going to

1699
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 19: lose draft picks. Maybe Kawhi Leonards contractors void, maybe their

1700
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 19: front office has temporary or long term suspensions. Again, this

1701
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 19: doesn't slap on the risk kind of punishments of them

1702
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 19: issuing a warranting for them get in some inconsequential fine.

1703
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 19: If the NBA is able to prove these allegations, the

1704
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 19: punishments is going to be severe.

1705
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, and mark one last thing and we'll get off

1706
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 2: this quick. This can be almost relegated to a follow

1707
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 2: the money case. If khi Leandard was paid twenty eight

1708
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 2: million dollars, somebody needs to take a look at his

1709
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 2: tax return from twenty nineteen and oh, by the way,

1710
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: that had to come from some bank, that had to

1711
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 2: originate from somebody's pocketbook. And follow the money cases are

1712
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 2: the easiest to solve. How's that money accounted for? How's

1713
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 2: that money reconciled? If it happened right, So there's other

1714
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 2: issues there as well. All Right, On a lighter note,

1715
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 2: a couple of players, Dwight Howard and Carmelo Anthony are

1716
01:31:56,760 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 2: going to be elected inducted here into the Basketball Hall

1717
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 2: of Fame. It's a basketball it's not a probat as

1718
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 2: you know, talk about your conversations with Jim Beheim and

1719
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 2: Dominique Wilkins.

1720
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,799
Speaker 19: Yeah, well, Jim Mayheim. He's you know, the former longtime

1721
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 19: Syracuse coach. He coached Carmelo Anthony when he helped them

1722
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 19: win their lone NCAA championship in two thousand and three.

1723
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 19: And I think the thing that's very fit in with

1724
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 19: Carmelo Anthony has a pretends to Syracuse is he was

1725
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 19: only there for one year, but he made an immediate

1726
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 19: impact with that title team. He gave back so many

1727
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 19: times the community to the university so much that you know,

1728
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 19: they were able to renovate their practice facility because before

1729
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 19: that they had to share their space with all the

1730
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 19: other you know, non revenue teams, sports teams. But that's

1731
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 19: almost a direct contradiction to what the His NBA career

1732
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 19: was very accomplished, became the number ten all time lean scorer,

1733
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 19: but the zero championships. But I think Jim Bayheim, obviously

1734
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 19: he has you know, a bias here because he was

1735
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 19: his coach and he was a player that helped him win.

1736
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 19: But I think he made a various stew point that

1737
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 19: a lot of it had to do with circumstances. When

1738
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 19: you look at it objectively, he always made his teams better. Well,

1739
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 19: it was the Denver Nuggets or the New York Knicks.

1740
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 19: And while everyone will view some of its faults of

1741
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 19: not being a pass first guy, not being the greatest defender,

1742
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 19: I would argue in Jim Baheim would argue that one

1743
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 19: he made his teams better instantly better too. His vast

1744
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 19: scoring vastly outweighed any weaknesses, and a lot of the

1745
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 19: shortcomings had to do with roster construction, mismanagement and anything

1746
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 19: what that Carmelo Anthony did or didn't do, and so

1747
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 19: that so I think with that it's a no brainer.

1748
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 19: He was a first ballot Hall of Famer here, very deserving.

1749
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 19: What else they have to keep in mind? And he

1750
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 19: played a very instrumental role in you know, the US

1751
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 19: Olympic redemption here with the redeemed team gold medal finish

1752
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 19: in two thousand and eight. Him gained more gold medals

1753
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 19: in twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, and you know, it's a

1754
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:20,839
Speaker 19: no brainer. I think the other thing that's very interesting

1755
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 19: with Jim Beayheim is he thought he was going to

1756
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 19: be a guy that would have to be in college

1757
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 19: for two years. But because he was able to put

1758
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 19: so much good strength and muscle early in his freshman season,

1759
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 19: he knew immediately he would be one and done as

1760
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 19: it pretends to Dominique Wilkins. What's interesting with him is

1761
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 19: that he was one of Dwight Howard's presenters. He was

1762
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 19: one of the best dunkers of all time. He told

1763
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 19: me that Dwight Howard is right up there. He's one

1764
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 19: of the best dunkers, most notably because of what he

1765
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 19: did in two thousand and eight and his slam dunk

1766
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 19: contest with you know, catching a lob from Jamiir Nelson

1767
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 19: and jump just below the free throw while wearing the

1768
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 19: Superman cape, putting a little mini basket on the hoop

1769
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 19: on the backboard and catching a basketball from there before

1770
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 19: throwing a windmill dunk. When when Dominique Wilkins was judging

1771
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 19: those dunk contests, he was giving ten out of tens

1772
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 19: and then throwing the board, you know, an admiration over

1773
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 19: what he just saw and that you can't take that

1774
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 19: likely because Dominique Wilkins and Michael Jordan were the two

1775
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 19: best stunkers in the eighties.

1776
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, Dominiqu Williams, dominqu Wilkins, excuse me, I agree with

1777
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 2: d White. Hoir was a vicious dunker, right, I mean,

1778
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 2: that was a power dunk. If he was playing when

1779
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 2: Darryl Dawkins was playing, he'd have broken some backboards, I think,

1780
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 2: like they did back in the day before they fixed

1781
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 2: all that. But yeah, I'll tell you listen, I take

1782
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,559
Speaker 2: Dominique at his his word. I mean, he's he's you know,

1783
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 2: he was there, right. I was never forgive me for this,

1784
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 2: But I was never really a great Dwighthawer fan. I know,

1785
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 2: I know Mitch Kupchak loved him, but when the when

1786
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 2: when the heat cats hot and it's hard to breathe,

1787
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 2: and he just I just think he was a winner

1788
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 2: and a crush time. I'm sorry, just just my opinion.

1789
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think that's fair. And look, when I asked

1790
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 19: that criticism Domini Quolkins, he went into the idea that, hey,

1791
01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 19: everyone has their own personality. He's still dominant. But I know,

1792
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 19: covering that Laker year when he was with Kobe Bryant

1793
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 19: and Steven Ash and Pyle Gasol and it not working well.

1794
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 19: This idea that was just because he had a back

1795
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 19: injury and the roster was going through a lot of

1796
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,639
Speaker 19: flux and there were coaching changes and for an office

1797
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 19: terminal turmoil no. I mean, the reality is he could

1798
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 19: have been the most dominant center in the NBA, but

1799
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 19: he didn't want to play pick and roll with Steve Nash.

1800
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 19: You want to prove he could be a post up guy,

1801
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 19: partly because Shaquille O'Neil was calling.

1802
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 10: Him out for it.

1803
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 19: So I think it's very telling that you know Steven Ash,

1804
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,839
Speaker 19: who was considered one of the best teammates ever, everyone

1805
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 19: loved him, he had that he had issues with White

1806
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 19: to Howard's attitude and work ethics. So you know, while

1807
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 19: Dwight Howard does deserve some credit for deeming himself and

1808
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 19: being able to have a pretty prolonged career, partly because

1809
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 19: he accepted a relegated role towards the end of his career.

1810
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 19: A lot of his time with the Lakers that first year,

1811
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 19: at his time in Houston with James Harden, it was underachieving,

1812
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 19: partly because of health, but partly because he didn't play

1813
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 19: up to his potential.

1814
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Mark great stuff, the depth and breadth of the knowledge

1815
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 2: all over it. I know you have a very deserved

1816
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: not off next Saturday, but we'll see you Saturday the twentieth,

1817
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 2: and maybe we'll have some updates on this story because

1818
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 2: I think this story's got real legs. I don't know

1819
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 2: where it ends up. A man, I think it's got

1820
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: real legs. This Clippers co I.

1821
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 19: Think, Yeah, I totally agree, and we'll see what happened.

1822
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 19: This is a long process, but I would suspect the

1823
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 19: NBA would have a definitive answer before training camp and

1824
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 19: almost three weeks.

1825
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 2: So exactly, yeah, well said, yeah, we're not that far

1826
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 2: away from opening night. Mark, great stuff, Bud, get some rest.

1827
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

1828
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 19: I appreciate you.

1829
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 2: Be well. Thanks. That's Mark Medina, Medina Magic, our Fox

1830
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: Sports Radio NBA guru and right out of left field.

1831
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 2: This story crops up and then at the end of

1832
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 2: the summer and it's just one of those intrepid journalistic

1833
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 2: stories that's really caught my eye because of the gravity

1834
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: of the situation. Hey, football is back for the best

1835
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,559
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1839
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1843
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 2: segue because at eleven minutes we're going to debut a

1844
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 2: new future here. People for years have asked me about

1845
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 2: fantasy football. Should I include a segment and Brandon it

1846
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 2: will be introducing, well, he actually introduced it a couple

1847
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, the Fantasy Files. We'll have every every

1848
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 2: Sunday morning at one thirty am, four to thirty Pacific.

1849
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 2: Check that form one thirty Pacific, four to thirty Eastern,

1850
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 2: you know, eight and a half hours before kickoff, and

1851
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 2: we'll see what Brandon's got to say as you go

1852
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 2: to set your lineups, and this is not an easy business.

1853
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,640
Speaker 2: You know, you had Xavier Worthy the other night. You

1854
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 2: took a bad break. You took a bad break. Meanwhile,

1855
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, my son has Justin Herbert. He had twenty

1856
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 2: nine points the other night. I don't do fantasy anymore,

1857
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 2: but I know it's a big deal in this country

1858
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 2: and people take it very very seriously, and so are we.

1859
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 2: So we'll have that coming up here in about ten minutes.

1860
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,400
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1861
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,800
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1862
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,639
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01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,600
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1866
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio come to you live from the Las

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01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 2: Vegas studios of Fox Sports Radio. Fantasy Owners Team participants,

1869
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 2: you have two minutes to get your pens and pencils

1870
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 2: ready and we're going to introduce reintroduce Fantasy Files with Brandon.

1871
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 2: But I want to get something off my chest because

1872
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 2: I bet the Cowboys plus eight and a half the

1873
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 2: other night. Yeah, I put it in print before the game.

1874
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 2: I was on Jason McIntyre's podcast, Straight Fire, and one

1875
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 2: of the things I talked about was all the week

1876
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 2: one betting trends, which are very real backed by a

1877
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 2: lot of data, which I'm going to get to it

1878
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 2: later in the hour because Week one is eight and

1879
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 2: a half hours away. But I want to get something

1880
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 2: off my chest because I got no beef personally with

1881
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus. But this guy keeps getting jobs. Okay, he's

1882
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 2: not Dallas's defensive coordinator, and somehow they dial up something

1883
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 2: to stop. Really, they stopped Saquon Barkley sixty yards three

1884
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 2: point three yards to carry. They held him to twenty

1885
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 2: four points. Last year with Michael Parsons they scored thirty

1886
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 2: four and forty one respectably. Philadelphia did. But you know

1887
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 2: who everflues couldn't stop Jalen Hurts. That cost him the

1888
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: game ultimately. Yeah, Miles Sanders. Fumbling when you're going in

1889
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 2: for a touchdown didn't help. CD Lamb dropping passes right

1890
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 2: and left didn't help the one on the skinny post

1891
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 2: he catches that pass. I think Dallas wins. But before

1892
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 2: Matt Fleeberflus was fired by the Bears last season, what

1893
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 2: was the knock? He struggled with situational football, especially late

1894
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 2: in games, and those struggles very much resurfaced Thursday night.

1895
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 2: So let me get this off my chest. He made

1896
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 2: a baffling call on a crucial fourth quarter play the

1897
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 2: Eagles needed three yards to convert a game clinching third

1898
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 2: down with a minute forty five left. Hurts lines up

1899
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: at an empty four nation with no running back next

1900
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 2: to him. He'd burned Dallas on the ground, doll game

1901
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 2: you knew, damn well. I looked at my wife and said,

1902
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 2: Hurts is gonna run the ball here her Eberflus calls

1903
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 2: a soft cover three zone rushing four with a box

1904
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 2: safety creeping up about ten yards deep. What's that going

1905
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,919
Speaker 2: to do you? He left no spy on Hurtz instead

1906
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 2: asking zone defenders zone defenders to contain Hurts if he scrambled.

1907
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 2: That's not a plan that's gonna work on Jalen Hurts.

1908
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 2: Not Jalen Hurts. It didn't, and it sealed the game.

1909
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 2: Mad eblerfus geez man, all right, I'm done. All right,

1910
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 2: Fantasy Owners team members, get your pins and pittels ready

1911
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 2: because it's time for Fantasy Focus Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch,

1912
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 2: your go to fantasy football segment are.

1913
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Speaker 14: One God when.

1914
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 20: We are back with some sid start suggestion for Fantasy Files.

1915
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 20: This week the most important week of the season because

1916
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 20: you want to get off to a hot start Sunday morning,

1917
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:09,640
Speaker 20: about to set your lineup. This is this segment you

1918
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 20: need to listen to, and we'll start with all the

1919
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 20: owners in fantasy who have Calvin Ridley. People were super

1920
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 20: high on Calvin Ridley, and rightfully so. Cam Ward has

1921
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 20: said nothing but great things about him. He has said

1922
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 20: that that's his favorite target. We all know that they

1923
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 20: don't really have a wide receiver too, whether it's Tyler

1924
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,639
Speaker 20: Lockett or Elkia Man or so. You think must start right.

1925
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 20: But this Broncos defense ranked top five in every single

1926
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 20: metric last season. They have the best corner in football,

1927
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 20: the defensive player of the year in Patrick Surtant, and

1928
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 20: he will lock him down. He only allowed ten plus

1929
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 20: fantasy points to a receiver last year once once. Now

1930
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 20: you wonder why won Defensive Player of the Year. That's

1931
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 20: why Calvin Ridley is the easiest sit of the week.

1932
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 20: I believe that he is going to have a horrible

1933
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,799
Speaker 20: game and it's a rookie quarterback that he's going against.

1934
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 20: So at the end of the day, Broncos are going

1935
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 20: to have cam Ward thinking twice about playing the NFL

1936
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 20: at least the first week before cam Ward and Calvin

1937
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 20: Ridley get a guy I would start though, speaking of

1938
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 20: getting going in the NFL is tetroha McMillan. I love

1939
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 20: tetroa McMillan plethora of targets available. With Jalen Cocher starting

1940
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 20: the season on the ir Bryce Young really doesn't have

1941
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 20: any options. It's McMillan and it's Xavier lagued who's second

1942
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 20: year receiver trying to take a leap. I think McMillan's

1943
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 20: the guy. This is a defense that they're going up

1944
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 20: against Jacksonville where they ranked bottom five in almost every

1945
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 20: single metric, especially against receivers and not just Fantasy football

1946
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 20: but also advanced statistics. They were almost last in the

1947
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 20: yards in the NFL. They didn't have a good secondary

1948
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 20: of all, part of the reason why they drafted Travis Hunter.

1949
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 20: Will play both sides. That's gonna be an interesting thing

1950
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 20: to watch. But Hunter is not on this list. We're

1951
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 20: gonna go next to JK. Dobbins. If you guys have

1952
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 20: this Broncos backfield, I would prefer to start R. J.

1953
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 2: Harvey over JK.

1954
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 20: Dobbins in PPR leagues. And here's why. Dobbins is only

1955
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 20: going to be utilized at the goal line. I don't

1956
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,719
Speaker 20: think he has much going on against this Tennessee defensive

1957
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 20: line that has always been established with Simmons, with other guys.

1958
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 20: They just added sweat. They have a really good defensive line.

1959
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 20: They actually have a great defense in general that got

1960
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 20: overlooked because of their atrocious offense last season with Will

1961
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 20: Levis and everything that was going on there. This is

1962
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 20: going to be an RJ. Harvey game. I think there's

1963
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 20: going to be some checkdowns out of the backfield, especially

1964
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 20: with the pressure that's going to be getting to bo Nicks.

1965
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 20: I think bo Nick's rushing upside is also immense. If

1966
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 20: you have BONNICKX in fantasy, I think he's a solid

1967
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 20: start because of that. But I'd be shocked if RJ.

1968
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 20: Harvey does not have a good game, and I would

1969
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 20: be shocked if Dobbins has a good game because the

1970
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 20: only way he gets over seven Fantasy points is a touchdown.

1971
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 20: But I do love the pass catching, especially in PPR

1972
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 20: leagues for RJ.

1973
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 2: Harvey.

1974
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 20: The next start we're going to go to instead of

1975
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 20: keeping it with rookies, We're going to go to a

1976
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:44,839
Speaker 20: proven veteran, a guy that everybody loves, and it's Cuba Hubbard.

1977
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 20: Cuba Hubbard has an excellent matchup against Jacksonville. Now, their

1978
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 20: defensive line is better than their secondary. Like I talked about.

1979
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 20: But this is a guy who they just extended, gave

1980
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 20: him a lot of money, and you drafted him in

1981
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 20: the fourth round. The usage is going to be off

1982
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 20: the charts, and this is going to be quarterback because

1983
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 20: of the limited options with just McMillan and the get

1984
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 20: in the passing game that they're going to rely on

1985
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 20: Hubbard a lot. And if we're staying with starts now,

1986
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 20: I'm gonna go two starts in a row, three starts

1987
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 20: in a row. If we included Harvey in that last one,

1988
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:15,480
Speaker 20: I'm going to go James Connor of the Arizona Cardinals.

1989
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 20: This guy mean mugs when he's running. I mean, this

1990
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 20: guy's been incredible for years. People think age will catch

1991
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,759
Speaker 20: up to him. Not against the New Orleans Saints bottom

1992
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 20: five in almost every statistical category defensively, especially against the run.

1993
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 20: I believe they were the worst in the league last season,

1994
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 20: close to the bottom. To that, James Connor should get

1995
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 20: two touchdowns this game. Solid start. There a sit though,

1996
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 20: and people are gonna hate this one because it's a

1997
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 20: rookie and people are very high on him. But Caleb Johnson.

1998
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 20: I don't love Caleb Johnson. This week they named Jalen

1999
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 20: Warren the RB one. Caleb Johnson's not a good pass catcher,

2000
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 20: and this is a Jets defense that is excellent against

2001
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 20: the run. Obviously, they have Williams, they have a great

2002
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 20: defensive line, and their secondary is good too. I just

2003
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 20: think their defense in general is good. So we're gonna

2004
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 20: stay with Steelers to sit. Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf

2005
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 20: are both sit. DK you probably drafted in round four

2006
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 20: or five. You're like, look, I love the upside there

2007
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:05,520
Speaker 20: there's no other receivers.

2008
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 5: I'm going to play DK.

2009
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 20: Well, temper your expectations a little bit because sas Gardner

2010
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 20: is one of the best corners in the league. Aaron

2011
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 20: Rodgers is not throwing for over two hundred yards against

2012
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 20: his Jets defense. This is going to be an ugly

2013
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 20: game of ground and pound game. Now, MAYI there's Steelers win,

2014
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 20: but it's not going to because of DK Metcalf. I

2015
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 20: promise you that it's gonna because of t J. Watten

2016
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 20: that defense. Finally, the last two sits and starts that

2017
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 20: we will go to, we'll get to him very quick.

2018
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 20: It's going to be Ricky Piersall will start against Seattle,

2019
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 20: whether or not Christian McCaffrey plays, it doesn't matter to me.

2020
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 20: Juwan Jennings first week back at practice, we can't expect

2021
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 20: him to be amazing right away if he plays this weekend,

2022
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 20: which he's looking like he's going to. Ricky Piersall showed

2023
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 20: the rapport with Brock Purty all off season in training camp,

2024
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 20: in the preseason games. In the last two games of

2025
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 20: the last season was top five and target chair, So

2026
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 20: I love him and I also hate in that game,

2027
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 20: absolutely hate Zach Sharpenay and you.

2028
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 5: Can see why Ken Walker is healthy right now.

2029
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 20: I don't think Sharmoney even gets five carries, so he's

2030
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 20: an obvious set. And if we're going to another game,

2031
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 20: we'll give you another set. Nick Chubb against the Rams

2032
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 20: at Rams defensive line is one of the best in

2033
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 20: the league. Really love the Rams d line there. And

2034
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 20: the final start that I will give you, guys is

2035
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 20: Jerry Judy against the Cleveland Browns. The Bengals have one

2036
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 20: of the most atrocious defenses in all of football, and

2037
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 20: there really are aren't many other wide receivers on the

2038
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 20: brown so I do expect them to really get going

2039
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 20: and target Jerry Judy a lot. I love David and

2040
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 20: Joku in that game at tight end as well. So

2041
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:29,759
Speaker 20: make sure you start the guys that I just said,

2042
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 20: sit the guys I said, make sure to listen to

2043
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 20: Fantasy Files every week on the Bernie Frotto Show to

2044
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,639
Speaker 20: help you set your lineups each week.

2045
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. I'm Brandon Deutsch there. It is Fantasy

2046
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 2: Files with Brandon. I apologize the name I blurted out

2047
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:46,599
Speaker 2: that I mush mouthed is not Fantasy Focus. It's Fantasy Files.

2048
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 2: Fantasy Focus is actually an ESPN product and they do

2049
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:52,600
Speaker 2: a very nice job with it. So Fantasy Files with

2050
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 2: Brandon will bring it to you every Sunday morning, one

2051
01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 2: thirty am Pacific time for thirty am Eastern time. As

2052
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 2: we are now about eight hours and twenty three minutes

2053
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: from kickoff. Good luck to all the fantasy owners coming up.

2054
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna bet everybody does fifty billion, fifty

2055
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 2: billion dollars with a B. Well, we bet legally this year,

2056
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 2: and the National Football League in the thirty eight legal

2057
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 2: states beyond that, how much illegally? I'd say probably three

2058
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 2: to four times that amount. Seriously, that's a guess. But

2059
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 2: as a result of that, what we try to do

2060
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 2: is bring you usable data that's accurate, knowledgeable, and time tested.

2061
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 2: And when I was on with Jason Thursday, I talked

2062
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 2: about many notable trends FORER Week one, not the least

2063
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 2: of which that divisional underdogs cover blindly. Since twenty fourteen,

2064
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 2: seventy two percent there was a divisional underdog Thursday night

2065
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,560
Speaker 2: Dallas covered, there was a division underdog Friday night the

2066
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 2: Chargers covered. Coming up, we'll give you the rest of

2067
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 2: the games that fall into that category, and six or

2068
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:12,640
Speaker 2: seven other notable Week one trends having to deal with totals,

2069
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: quarterback performances, homefield advantage. Right down the line, I'm Bernie Friddle.

2070
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:19,759
Speaker 2: We are coming to you live from the Las Vegas

2071
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. So keep it locked right here.

2072
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2073
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,679
Speaker 2: All right, back of the Bernie Fratle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

2074
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 2: coming to live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2075
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 2: And yes, eight hours and sixteen minutes from kickoff. In

2076
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 2: the National Football League, I believe there are eight games

2077
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 2: in the early window, four in the late window, then

2078
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 2: the Sunday night standalone game. It's Baltimore Buffalo, and then

2079
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 2: Monday night'll be a good one too, Chicago Bears will

2080
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:55,560
Speaker 2: see what kind of affect Men Johnson has had on

2081
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 2: Kleb Williamson in the debut of J. J. McCarthy in

2082
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 2: the mind vikings. All right, So, there are some notable

2083
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 2: trends for the NFL in Week one based on a

2084
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 2: lot of historical data which I keep over the years,

2085
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 2: Starting with the fact that favorites typically struggle to cover

2086
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: in Week one. If you just go back six years,

2087
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 2: they're only covering forty four percent of the time, all

2088
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 2: favorites forty two and fifty four against the number, despite

2089
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 2: winning sixty two percent of those games. So they're winning

2090
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 2: but not necessarily covering. Underdogs, particularly large ones plus six

2091
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 2: and a half for more have been very profitable week one.

2092
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 2: You already if you are on Dallas that fell into

2093
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 2: that category, you cash on that. They've covered ten of

2094
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 2: the last thirteen games since twenty one and since twenty

2095
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 2: oh six, underdogs have six and a half for more

2096
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 2: forty nine and twenty seven against the number in Week one.

2097
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 2: Now the big thing for me are divisional underdogs. This

2098
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,520
Speaker 2: has been a huge trend for me since twenty fourteen,

2099
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 2: covering in about seventy two percent if you bet them blindly.

2100
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 2: Know why is that? Okay? Because teams started full strength.

2101
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 2: The underdogs are still optimistic. They haven't given up yet,

2102
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 2: and depression hasn't said in yet. And the good news

2103
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 2: is the good teams have not yet to really fully gel,

2104
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 2: had enough time to gel and separate themselves from the pack. Also,

2105
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,680
Speaker 2: coaches have months to game plan, and that leads to

2106
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 2: tighter games and increases the likelihood of dogs covering and

2107
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 2: many times pulling off the upset. There are still six

2108
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 2: remaining Divisional underdogs, the New York Giants. Now the line

2109
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 2: I got a met was six against the Commanders. They

2110
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 2: may be five and a half now. The Browns are

2111
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 2: at home catching six against the Bengals, which also falls

2112
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 2: into another strong category, Divisional home underdogs, and two teams

2113
01:52:54,920 --> 01:53:00,200
Speaker 2: fall in that category, the Seahawks and the Browns. I'll

2114
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 2: at that in a minute. Divisional home underdogs have been

2115
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 2: a strong bet twenty three and seven against the number

2116
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 2: since twenty ten. It doesn't happen that often, okay, So

2117
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 2: you can see in fifteen years, there's only a couple

2118
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 2: of year there's two This year. But at twenty three

2119
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:16,600
Speaker 2: and seven, you can make as much money as you

2120
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 2: want to make if you, you know, if you continue

2121
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 2: with that trend, that checks in at about seventy one percent.

2122
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 2: The other remaining divisional matchups are the Bears plus one

2123
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 2: and a half against the Vikings, and I think and

2124
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 2: by the way, the Seahawks not two and a half

2125
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 2: doesn't exist anymore. They're probably I think the game's down

2126
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 2: to one, but these are the game lines. I got

2127
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: the mat You always want the best closing line value,

2128
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 2: and I you know, I was able to jump on

2129
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 2: that early because I've been doing this in terms of dump,

2130
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 2: you know, dumping on divisional underdogs week one since twenty fourteen.

2131
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 2: That's good. That got My relationship started with Jason McIntyre.

2132
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 2: He caught wind of it. In the last four years

2133
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 2: I've been on a straight fire podcast. We've talked about

2134
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 2: this really at nauseam and here we are two to zero.

2135
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 2: If history, if history is any teacher, then of these

2136
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 2: eight games, five point six are going to cash. You

2137
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 2: know where I'm going. But you go five and three,

2138
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 2: make as much money as you want to make. You

2139
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 2: might even go six and two. So two or in

2140
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 2: the books or six remaining. If they just split, you

2141
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 2: go five and three. That's a nice profit. Five out

2142
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 2: of eight. I think that checks in a little under

2143
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 2: seventy percent, but you might go six out of eight.

2144
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 2: The Browns can cover against this team. The New York

2145
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 2: Giants can certainly cover. The Chargers are already did, and

2146
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 2: so did the Cowboys. That leaves the Falcons catching two

2147
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 2: against Tampa Bay. And finally the Carolina Panthers plus three

2148
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 2: and a half against Jacksonville. Yes, home underdogs the in

2149
01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 2: Week one, do well. The other home underdog. Now this

2150
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 2: is a divisional game, Jets catching three at home against Pittsburgh.

2151
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 2: And you heard Brandon's fantasy file, the Jets are going

2152
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 2: to bring a good defense. I don't have a whole

2153
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 2: hell of a lot of faith in justin fields. There's

2154
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 2: he's fourteen to thirty for a reason. But that's a

2155
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 2: conversation for a different day. Totals, the under has been

2156
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 2: slightly profitable in Week one. If you go back to

2157
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, the under has hit about fifty five percent

2158
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: out of one hundred and seventy five games. It's hit

2159
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 2: in ninety five. But additionally, though unders in divisional games

2160
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 2: with totals of forty seven or lower have been profitable.

2161
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 2: Just something to note. Week one scoring rows a little

2162
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 2: bit in twenty twenty four, but that was partly due

2163
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 2: to the kickoff rule changes. However, passing touchdowns were the

2164
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 2: fewest since twenty oh six, and rushing touchdowns outnumbered passing

2165
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 2: touchdowns for the first time since nineteen eighty nine. Something

2166
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 2: to note now, the impact of his starting quarterback, especially rookies,

2167
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 2: can heavily influence Week one outcomes and subsequent line movements.

2168
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: When you look at Denver, would they really be laying

2169
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 2: eight and a half to Tennessee if they weren't starting

2170
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback number one overall in his first ever game. Now,

2171
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 2: I happened to like Cam Moreed a lot. I don't even

2172
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 2: do well in this league, But rookies who start Week

2173
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 2: one in the National Football League, I'm talking about quarterbacks

2174
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 2: drafted number one specifically, not just first round guys, but

2175
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 2: number one overall, it doesn't go so well. The only

2176
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 2: one I covered directly was back in two thousand and

2177
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 2: nine to Detroit with Matt Stafford. He beat out Dante

2178
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:50,640
Speaker 2: Culpepper the last day of camp Colepepper stormed out. Stafford

2179
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 2: started against the Saints and in the Alliance got housed.

2180
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 2: The Saints rode him like a stick horse. Think it

2181
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 2: was like forty seven to seventeen or twenty four memories

2182
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 2: sixteen years ago. So you have that situation in Denver. Now,

2183
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm not in a hurry to lay the eight and

2184
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 2: a half, but that could be a case for a teaser, right,

2185
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 2: and you compare it up with something else to get

2186
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 2: it down across the key numbers of three, four, six,

2187
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 2: and seven. And by the way, if you're gonna bet teasers,

2188
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 2: let the math work for you. You know. Don't teaser a

2189
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 2: line of plus eight up to plus fifteen. That's not

2190
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 2: how it works. Don't cross through zero, that's not it works.

2191
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 2: Don't tease totals, that's not how it works. It's hard

2192
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 2: enough to have some success against these books without turning

2193
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 2: into Mickey the Duntz and doing things that just don't

2194
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 2: pan out for you. Coaches. In week one, now this

2195
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 2: is interesting because I finally fired on the Rams. Small

2196
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 2: play Rams coach Sean McVay has a perfect five and

2197
01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 2: zero straight up and against the spreads record in week

2198
01:57:53,960 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 2: one and Mike Tomlin. This is why I'm sketchy Jets.

2199
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 2: He's fourteen and six seventy in Week one road games,

2200
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 2: so I think Pittsburgh might have something for you. I

2201
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 2: know the Jets are really trendy pick, just the same

2202
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 2: way Duke was this big trendy pick Saturday because of

2203
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 2: Many defense. You know, Many das his defense for Duke

2204
01:58:19,960 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 2: going up against Illinois and Brett Belmo. They've been better

2205
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 2: off with Many Ramiers's defense. I mean they lost by

2206
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: twenty six points. They put up a ton of yards.

2207
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 2: But one person repeats it the echo chamber. Be careful

2208
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 2: to your own research, right. It's like rule number six

2209
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 2: in golf. You're responsible for your own ball and your

2210
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 2: own score. Jim Harball, we were told it was right five.

2211
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 2: He is not. He was four and oh or five

2212
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 2: and oh in game ones ats and he did it

2213
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 2: again Friday night. So those are the key key trends

2214
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 2: in on Week one, and the main thing, you know,

2215
01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 2: bankroll management. You don't have to bet every single game

2216
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 2: just because it's on TV, and whatever your bankroll is,

2217
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:08,760
Speaker 2: don't endanger it by betting too much on anyone given game.

2218
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 2: This is a tough business man. This is a ridiculously

2219
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 2: hard business. If you watched how that Charger game or

2220
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 2: checked at for instance, I'll go back to college. Okay,

2221
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 2: everybody loved that lane Kiff and old Miss was going

2222
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 2: to smoke Kentucky today late eight and a half. It

2223
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 2: went by double digits. No, you know, I'm not late

2224
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 2: and a half on the road. Well they you know,

2225
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 2: a late field goal took that eight and a half away,

2226
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 2: and if you had the under, it went over and

2227
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 2: the last second yanked out of your mouth. You work

2228
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 2: hard for your money, so keep you know, keep your

2229
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 2: sanity when it comes to not endangering your bankroll. Coming up,

2230
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna dive back into comns. We're gonna go to

2231
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 2: Columbus Ohio Ohio State. Don is going to join us,

2232
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 2: and we're gonna ask the question can Ohio State repeat?

2233
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 2: Actually I think they can keep it locking. You're listening

2234
01:59:57,320 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2235
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

2236
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man Bernie Fointle Show

2237
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. We are coming to you live

2238
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

2239
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:16,879
Speaker 2: For taking up to three m Pacific six a m. Eastern.

2240
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Speaker 2: We are just eight hours away from the resumption the

2241
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:24,320
Speaker 2: full first Sunday of the NFL. But there's a developing

2242
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 2: story in college football that I believe. This gentleman came

2243
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:30,440
Speaker 2: on our show after Ohio State lost to Michigan and

2244
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 2: believe that they would regroup and make a run on

2245
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 2: a national championship, which is exactly what they did. The

2246
02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 2: question is can they repeat. Well, let's find out's welcome

2247
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 2: in our Ohio State insire, Ohio State. Don from Columbus, Don,

2248
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:44,160
Speaker 2: how you doing, Buddy.

2249
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 14: Hey Bernie, how you doing?

2250
02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 10: I'm doing well.

2251
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 2: I bet you are. After those Buckeyes in their first

2252
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 2: two weeks, so because they have been so impressive. You

2253
02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:00,320
Speaker 2: lose your starting quarterback, you lose your defensive coordinat, you

2254
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 2: lose a ton of guys in the NFL, but you reload.

2255
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 2: Dare I say, based on what I saw against Texas,

2256
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:08,840
Speaker 2: they have the potentially be as good, if not better,

2257
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five.

2258
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 12: Well, the defense in particular is looking very good, and

2259
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 12: they may very well be better than they were last

2260
02:01:17,600 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 12: year when they won.

2261
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 10: The national championship.

2262
02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:23,400
Speaker 12: When they picked up Patricia as their defensive coordinator. Here's

2263
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 12: a guy that's won Super Bowl as a defensive coordinator

2264
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 12: and now he's a defensive coordinator in college and he's

2265
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 12: just now learning how to move around the players that

2266
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:38,000
Speaker 12: he's got on the team, several of which could be

2267
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 12: high graphics downs. In particular, it's going to be a

2268
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:44,400
Speaker 12: top five pick. Assuredly that Patricia's just learning how to

2269
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:48,560
Speaker 12: move him around, and it's I'm sure Patricia's having a

2270
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:49,560
Speaker 12: pretty good time right now.

2271
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 2: Well, those defensive schemes that he dialed up against Texas

2272
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:59,240
Speaker 2: and Arch Manning last week were very sophisticated. I would

2273
02:01:59,360 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 2: adventure to say they were more sophisticated than these schemes

2274
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 2: that Jim Knowle's put out last year. Would you agree

2275
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 2: with that? Yes?

2276
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 12: And as I understand it as well, it's easier for

2277
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 12: the players to understand the schemes. They had some difficulty

2278
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 12: with nole schemes and it took them a few games

2279
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 12: to get used to that, whereas Patricia's are more of

2280
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 12: a flowing scheme and they tend to be able to

2281
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:26,440
Speaker 12: adjust to it quicker. And so, yeah, it's gonna be

2282
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:26,960
Speaker 12: a fun year.

2283
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 2: So let's talk about a potential repeat because I think

2284
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:34,600
Speaker 2: that story is a legitimate one. And look, this is

2285
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:37,840
Speaker 2: not something that's aid unusual. We've had three college programs

2286
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:42,600
Speaker 2: repeat the century. Georgia just did it three years ago

2287
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 2: in twenty one to twenty two, Bama did it in

2288
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 2: eleven and twelve, and USC three and O four. The difference,

2289
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 2: Don is all three of those repeat winners had their

2290
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 2: quarterbacks return, aj mccern and Matt Lioner and Stetson Bennett.

2291
02:02:58,360 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 2: I am really impressed with what I say see out

2292
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 2: of Julian saying, now he was eighteen and nineteen Saturday,

2293
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 2: but that was against Grambling, But I thought he made

2294
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 2: some impressive throws against Texas. Have they embraced Julian saying

2295
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 2: much more so than they have in quarterbacks in the past.

2296
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 12: Well, I think that they've learned lessons from previous quarterbacks.

2297
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 12: And it was interesting to watch the Texas game and

2298
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:24,000
Speaker 12: that on the sidelines when the cameras panned to the sidelines,

2299
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 12: you saw saying always having the headset on or talking

2300
02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 12: to one of the coaches and so forth, which interestingly enough,

2301
02:03:32,120 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 12: he didn't see any of that.

2302
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 15: With Texas, but saying, you.

2303
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,600
Speaker 12: Know, they're really nursing him along. They like him a

2304
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 12: lot smith in particular, belief that his fall even spins

2305
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:44,400
Speaker 12: different when it comes off.

2306
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 8: With his hands.

2307
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:49,400
Speaker 12: So I think they're really embracing and heartline. The new

2308
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:53,240
Speaker 12: offensive coordinator for Ohio State wants to make him the

2309
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 12: poster child for four quarterbacks and of course the wide

2310
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 12: receiver corps stuff. So yeah, they're they're really nursing him

2311
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 12: along and they really believe that he's going to be

2312
02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:04,240
Speaker 12: a stud for them.

2313
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,560
Speaker 2: Well, he does a lot of things I like, but

2314
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 2: the main thing, and I saw this against Texas, he

2315
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 2: did not look like a deer in the headlights at all,

2316
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 2: and that was one of Will Howard's knox. Of course

2317
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 2: they won the national championship, of course, but he seem

2318
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 2: like saying, stepped right on the field and seemed like

2319
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 2: he belonged. Now, he won a very hard fall battle

2320
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:27,560
Speaker 2: against Lincoln kin Holes. What can you tell us about

2321
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 2: Lincoln kin Holes? Because sometimes in this day and age,

2322
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 2: you need a couple of quarterbacks. And you know that

2323
02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:35,040
Speaker 2: better than anybody. When you won with the third string

2324
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Speaker 2: quarterback Cardell Jones what ten years ago?

2325
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Speaker 12: Yeah, well he got in the second half. Lincoln got

2326
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Speaker 12: in the entire second half yesterday of the KA game,

2327
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Speaker 12: and they want him to be ready. He's a different

2328
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 12: type of quarterback. He's more of a Will Howard call,

2329
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 12: lanky cannon of an arm He's able to scramble type

2330
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Speaker 12: of quarterbacks. So they want to be able to use

2331
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Speaker 12: him in probably certain situations, so they want him to

2332
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Speaker 12: be ready. Yesterday was a perfect opportunity the entire second

2333
02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:09,440
Speaker 12: or virtually the entire second halfy it's a quarterback, and

2334
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Speaker 12: I'm sure he'll get other opportunities next week and so forth,

2335
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 12: but they want him to be ready to You never

2336
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:16,320
Speaker 12: know about injuries, but I think that they want to

2337
02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 12: use him in particular packages, so they want him to

2338
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 12: be ready too, and it's they're very, very happy with him.

2339
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Speaker 2: One of the things I want to digress for just

2340
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 2: a second before I look ahead, when Ryan Day lost

2341
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 2: to Michigan last year, and that was an anethhma to

2342
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Speaker 2: the folks in Columbus. Believe me, I know all my

2343
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 2: ears in Michigan. Having covered that, I think I covered

2344
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:43,840
Speaker 2: about thirteen of those games. You had a situation where

2345
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 2: it was reported nationally that if they didn't have a

2346
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 2: good playoff, they were going to fire him, and you

2347
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:50,720
Speaker 2: debunked that said, no, they've got too good of a

2348
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:53,240
Speaker 2: recruiting class coming in next year. You lose your recruiting class.

2349
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 2: Has the faith in Ryan Day is starting to be

2350
02:05:57,560 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 2: rewarded more so now even though I know we got

2351
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:01,640
Speaker 2: Michigan down the road. We're going to We're going to

2352
02:06:01,720 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 2: get to that. But is he less person non groad

2353
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 2: announce since he's won six Street games in dominating fashion

2354
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 2: since that loss, well.

2355
02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 12: You know, national championships, so I'll get you a lot

2356
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:18,080
Speaker 12: of kudos. So he certainly is very comfortable at this point.

2357
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 12: The Michigan game they found out last year is not

2358
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:25,840
Speaker 12: nearly as important as it used to be in the

2359
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 12: giant scope of the playoffs and so forth. You know,

2360
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 12: back in the day, you had to have that game

2361
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 12: to make it to the playoffs. At this point, even

2362
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 12: if they lost the Texas game, and if they continue

2363
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 12: to play as they're supposed to play the rest of

2364
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,440
Speaker 12: the year, they're going to make the playoffs anyway. So

2365
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:43,560
Speaker 12: and it will be the same with Michigan. So if

2366
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 12: they go undefeated and lose the Michigan I'm sure the

2367
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,320
Speaker 12: Natives will be unhappy about that, but they're going to

2368
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 12: the playoffs anyway.

2369
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:52,600
Speaker 2: So it's not nearly as important as he and the

2370
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 2: games in an arbor this year. What do you make

2371
02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:56,800
Speaker 2: of some of the Michigan players that I had their

2372
02:06:56,880 --> 02:07:01,000
Speaker 2: names said that Ohio States Championship on legitimate because they

2373
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 2: lost to Michigan. What what's the consensus in Columbus when

2374
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 2: you hear that Michigan's.

2375
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 12: Well, you know, they certainly would have liked to beat Michigan,

2376
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:12,839
Speaker 12: and certainly they do not want to hear Michigan's statements

2377
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 12: along those lines.

2378
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:14,440
Speaker 10: But you know, it is what.

2379
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 12: It is, and you know, a ring is a ring.

2380
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 12: And they're certainly looking forward to playing at Michigan this year,

2381
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 12: and I'm sure that that they're targeting that as one

2382
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 12: of their key games for the year and stuff. But

2383
02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 12: they've been a pretty tough schedule anyway.

2384
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:30,839
Speaker 2: I mean they got yeah, yeah, yeah.

2385
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:33,000
Speaker 12: I mean, so they've got plenty of play of tough games.

2386
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:36,880
Speaker 12: If they get through Washington and Penn State and and

2387
02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 12: so forth and the other games that they need to

2388
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 12: go through again, Michigan will not be It'll be a

2389
02:07:41,640 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 12: game that they want to win, no question that they

2390
02:07:43,360 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 12: want to win. Everybody in Ohio wants to win that game.

2391
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 12: But it won't be nearly as important as it has

2392
02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 12: been a previous year.

2393
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 2: Well, one last thing, I can't resist the consensus in

2394
02:07:54,280 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 2: Columbus when the NCAA handed down their penalty to Michigan

2395
02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 2: for the whole Connors Stallion's thing. And we know that

2396
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:04,240
Speaker 2: Jim Tressel was suspended six games with the Colts after

2397
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 2: the tattoo gate, but didn't givehim a It didn't give

2398
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 2: him a competitive advantage on the field. I know Urban

2399
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 2: Myers comments were taken out of context, but what was

2400
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 2: the Ohio state consensus. Michigan got punished du ly or

2401
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 2: should have been worse.

2402
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:20,280
Speaker 12: Well, you know in Ohio you can't putnish Michigan enough.

2403
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:22,400
Speaker 2: So dumb question by me.

2404
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,760
Speaker 12: Man, they'd have given him the death penalty. That would

2405
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 12: have been about right. So you know, it is what

2406
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 12: it is, and everybody can move on. Now there's closure

2407
02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:35,000
Speaker 12: to the issue of whether you like it or not.

2408
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 12: The issue is now in the review mirror, and we

2409
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:38,240
Speaker 12: move on.

2410
02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about that schedule, because you're right

2411
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 2: after Ohio next week in a bye week. Three of

2412
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 2: the next four games are on the road at Washington,

2413
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 2: at Illinois, and at Wisconsin. Sandwiched against a home game

2414
02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 2: against a very improved Minnesota team, all those four which

2415
02:08:56,840 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 2: gives you the greatest concern.

2416
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 12: Well, whenever you make a huge West coast trip, as

2417
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:04,760
Speaker 12: you well know, it's a major ordeal.

2418
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 14: And so that that.

2419
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 12: Game will be important. Obviously the Wisconsin game, given the

2420
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:15,240
Speaker 12: fact who their head coaches, that'll be a very important

2421
02:09:15,280 --> 02:09:20,320
Speaker 12: game to a high state too. So that's correct, that's correct. So,

2422
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 12: and I'm sure Fickle will be looking for, you know,

2423
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:25,800
Speaker 12: some payback there. I'm sure that he would have wanted

2424
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 12: to be the high state coach at this point versus

2425
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 12: the Wisconsin coach. But nevertheless, it'll be tough, and uh,

2426
02:09:32,960 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 12: you know, Dale, keep them focused. You've got offensive and

2427
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:39,200
Speaker 12: defensive coordinators that are showing their skills, and they certainly,

2428
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 12: I would imagine, are looking for potential upward moves as

2429
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 12: the years go along too. So I'm sure that they'll

2430
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 12: be focused and they'll be ready.

2431
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 2: And then when you jump to November, you've got Penn

2432
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 2: State visiting Columbus, and I don't believe, I I don't

2433
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 2: believe Penn State will meet their expectations. They'll get to

2434
02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs again and they win to lose the game

2435
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:03,560
Speaker 2: they need to win. That's just the way I feel

2436
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:07,360
Speaker 2: about it. But people are comparing their roster to Michigan's

2437
02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:09,440
Speaker 2: two years ago when they wanted all in Ohio States

2438
02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:11,200
Speaker 2: last year in terms that they got so many returning

2439
02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 2: players and veterans into three year quarterback. Then you got

2440
02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:17,200
Speaker 2: Michigan sandwiched at the end of the month. Gone to

2441
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 2: your head, who's the bigger threat, Michigan or Penn State.

2442
02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:24,160
Speaker 2: Based on the roster and the situation, you'll be facing

2443
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:26,320
Speaker 2: Penn State the better team, but your game at home

2444
02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 2: Michigan is Michigan. They're on the road.

2445
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:33,280
Speaker 12: The Penn State game will be a difficult game. Franklin's

2446
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:36,840
Speaker 12: got some issues he's got to work through, and he's

2447
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:39,920
Speaker 12: got to win that game to show his credibility. But

2448
02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 12: the Michigan game always is going to be the bigger

2449
02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 12: game for Ohio State, especially since it's on the road,

2450
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 12: and you know they've got this albatross hanging around their

2451
02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 12: neck where they've got to be Michigan. So certainly the

2452
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,200
Speaker 12: Michigan game will be more of a focal point than

2453
02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 12: Penn State, though I'm sure the coaches won't say that.

2454
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 2: Look don great stuff man, I want to get you

2455
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 2: on again down the road when this story develops, because

2456
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 2: I believe that when you get to November one, Penn

2457
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:12,480
Speaker 2: State Ohio State will still be undefeated. I believe that.

2458
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:14,280
Speaker 2: I know, you got a tussle at Illinois and they

2459
02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 2: look to be the real d with Brett Bielima, and

2460
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:20,360
Speaker 2: they took it to Duke and many DZ's defense on Saturday.

2461
02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:23,400
Speaker 2: But Ohio State's just a whole different animal, and I

2462
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:26,320
Speaker 2: want to make one lad, I'll make a statement slash question.

2463
02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:30,400
Speaker 2: As good as Ohio States looked, they're they're not near

2464
02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 2: their potential yet as to what they can actually be.

2465
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:33,560
Speaker 2: Is that a fair statement?

2466
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, they not only it's say in their quarterback

2467
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 12: grow it into his role, but they've They've got Bo

2468
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:45,000
Speaker 12: Jackson's son that is now part of the team and

2469
02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:48,720
Speaker 12: he is growing into his role. He looked incredible yesterday.

2470
02:11:49,160 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 12: Now given the fact that the opponent was not of

2471
02:11:53,200 --> 02:11:56,680
Speaker 12: Penn State or Michigan stature, he still looked very good.

2472
02:11:56,760 --> 02:11:57,960
Speaker 8: So they've got a young a lot.

2473
02:11:57,880 --> 02:11:59,680
Speaker 12: Of younger players that are coming up and they are

2474
02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:00,520
Speaker 12: working into.

2475
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 6: Roles and stuff.

2476
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:05,480
Speaker 12: So so so, yeah, it's a growing experience and so forth.

2477
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:07,360
Speaker 12: And they got past the Texas game, and they got

2478
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 12: a couple of games now that they can get some

2479
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:12,760
Speaker 12: of these younger guys in and so forth. So I'm

2480
02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:15,040
Speaker 12: sure that they're pretty excited about their prospects for sure.

2481
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Ryan Day said it best right before

2482
02:12:18,280 --> 02:12:22,360
Speaker 2: kickoff against Texas last week. He said, we got a

2483
02:12:22,360 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 2: bunch of new guys doing it for the first time,

2484
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:28,760
Speaker 2: but the ceiling and the talent levels undeniable, and they're

2485
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 2: going to be really, really good. And I think they've

2486
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:31,680
Speaker 2: proven that.

2487
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:35,760
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, yes, I'm sure that they're pretty excited about

2488
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 12: the year, this year and so forth, and it's going

2489
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:42,240
Speaker 12: to be pretty fun. They've used the transfer portal to

2490
02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:44,400
Speaker 12: fill in the needs that they had for the year

2491
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 12: and so forth, and you know, a lot of states

2492
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 12: kind of become the poster child for you know, the

2493
02:12:49,040 --> 02:12:51,840
Speaker 12: new era in college football and how to go after

2494
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 12: players and how to recruit, how to throw back in

2495
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 12: holes that you have with the portal and so forth.

2496
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,240
Speaker 12: So I'm sure that there are a lot of colleges

2497
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:03,720
Speaker 12: that are looking to mirror O High State success.

2498
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:06,640
Speaker 2: Don great stuff, man, appreciate it, and this is going

2499
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 2: to be fun to watch and we'll get you on

2500
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 2: here as this season progresses. Again. Thanks again Don, Thanks

2501
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Bernie. It's Don Gessick or Ohio State Don Insider,

2502
02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:21,040
Speaker 2: And you know, I think he's spot on and he's

2503
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:24,400
Speaker 2: really got his finger on the pulse. So this is

2504
02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 2: going to be a fun story to follow because you know,

2505
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:31,760
Speaker 2: it's one thing to have potential, and it's one thing

2506
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 2: to have the roster expectations and all this media hype.

2507
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 2: But then you got to get on the feel and

2508
02:13:37,600 --> 02:13:40,760
Speaker 2: do it. And it wasn't just that Ohio State beat Texas.

2509
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 2: It's the way they beat Texas and Texas as athletic

2510
02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:48,120
Speaker 2: as any team in the country. So we'll see where

2511
02:13:48,160 --> 02:13:51,400
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Speaker 2: top of your screen coming up. Who are the surprise

2520
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Speaker 2: teams in the NFL this year? According to me I'll

2521
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Speaker 2: tell you coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show,

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Speaker 2: Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Hey don't look now

2527
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Speaker 2: seven hours and thirty seven minutes until the eight early

2528
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Speaker 2: games kickoff in the National Football League is the twenty

2529
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Speaker 2: twenty five season continues. Two Divisional dogs have already covered

2530
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:58,880
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys, and I gave you my thoughts on

2531
02:14:58,920 --> 02:15:02,880
Speaker 2: that earlier and give it up to Jim Harbow is

2532
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:07,560
Speaker 2: now six in all on opening day as an NFL

2533
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Speaker 2: head coach. He did it four times with the Niners

2534
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:12,520
Speaker 2: and now twice with the Chargers. And by the way,

2535
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Speaker 2: one thing I want to digress, Alabama got a little healthy.

2536
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:20,840
Speaker 2: I think kaln de Bor could really coach. I don't

2537
02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:23,240
Speaker 2: know what's going on there, but they got healthy against

2538
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:27,160
Speaker 2: Louisiana Monroe. But prior to Saturday, Bama had now lost

2539
02:15:27,320 --> 02:15:30,120
Speaker 2: their last four outright as a double digit favorite, all

2540
02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:32,720
Speaker 2: under Kala the Boor and prior to Saturday. They were

2541
02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:35,680
Speaker 2: five and five in their last ten games, and the

2542
02:15:35,760 --> 02:15:38,160
Speaker 2: last time the time where five and five were worse

2543
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:41,240
Speaker 2: over previous ten games was eighteen years ago when they

2544
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:43,720
Speaker 2: were four and six. Those of the Mike Shuley years,

2545
02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:46,960
Speaker 2: I think, or maybe I don't remember. Maybe Saban was there.

2546
02:15:48,080 --> 02:15:52,280
Speaker 2: He had a rough start, but in two thousand and

2547
02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:54,240
Speaker 2: six Bamo had a three and seven record over a

2548
02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 2: ten game window. But they corrected it. So we'll see

2549
02:15:58,120 --> 02:15:59,960
Speaker 2: what Kaylen Border can do. He did it, he did,

2550
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:02,360
Speaker 2: did a great job, you know. In his last two

2551
02:16:02,360 --> 02:16:05,880
Speaker 2: stops Presilo State and Washington got Washington into the playoffs.

2552
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:09,680
Speaker 2: He's I wouldn't give up on that guy yet, all right.

2553
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:13,920
Speaker 2: Every year in the National Football League since the league

2554
02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 2: realigned in its divisions in two thousand and two, well

2555
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:18,840
Speaker 2: maybe not every year, every year but one, but there've

2556
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:22,480
Speaker 2: been a total of twenty nine teams that have gone

2557
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:28,520
Speaker 2: from worst to first, including two teams in twenty eighteen

2558
02:16:28,560 --> 02:16:30,760
Speaker 2: that did it. Not one, but two teams did it,

2559
02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:34,280
Speaker 2: including the lovable Chicago Bears, who were quarterbacked by a

2560
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:38,800
Speaker 2: guy named Mitch Trubisky. Now I know they wanted to

2561
02:16:38,840 --> 02:16:42,879
Speaker 2: nominate justin Fields for mayor because he's a stellar individual

2562
02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:46,160
Speaker 2: and a consummate professional. He just struggles mightily with the

2563
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:49,960
Speaker 2: forward pass and making read progressions. He's fourteen and thirty.

2564
02:16:50,720 --> 02:16:52,840
Speaker 2: We'll see how he does. But once again I digress.

2565
02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:56,120
Speaker 2: The irony is the Bears actually had a quarterback a

2566
02:16:56,160 --> 02:16:58,960
Speaker 2: few years back. For three years. He was twenty five

2567
02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:01,640
Speaker 2: and thirteen. They made the playoffs two or three years.

2568
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:05,640
Speaker 2: He threw sixty four touchdowns, he had thirty seven interceptions

2569
02:17:05,640 --> 02:17:08,760
Speaker 2: of sixty seven percent completion rate, and they would have

2570
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:10,280
Speaker 2: won one playoff game if it hadn't been for the

2571
02:17:10,280 --> 02:17:14,080
Speaker 2: double doing field goal. I'm talking about Mitch Trubisky. Well,

2572
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:16,160
Speaker 2: that year, the Bears went from worse to first. Now,

2573
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go into great detail. I might

2574
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:22,120
Speaker 2: do it next week. There are only eight teams that

2575
02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:24,960
Speaker 2: could go from worse to first. Cleveland, New Orleans, Tennessee,

2576
02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:28,920
Speaker 2: the New York Giants, the Las Vegas Raiders, Chicago Bears,

2577
02:17:29,120 --> 02:17:34,200
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, and the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

2578
02:17:36,440 --> 02:17:37,800
Speaker 2: I guess, if I have a gun to my head,

2579
02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:41,680
Speaker 2: I would predict that the Niners of that group would

2580
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:44,240
Speaker 2: be the team to go for worse to first in

2581
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:48,879
Speaker 2: the National. The NFC West. They have the earliest strength

2582
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:55,160
Speaker 2: of schedule in the in the entire NFC, the easiest

2583
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:57,680
Speaker 2: strength to schedule based on one lost records from last year.

2584
02:17:58,720 --> 02:18:01,920
Speaker 2: And they brought back Robert salaz Our defensive coordinator. You've

2585
02:18:01,959 --> 02:18:05,560
Speaker 2: still got plenty of talent, you know, high level talent,

2586
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:11,160
Speaker 2: core talent, Nick Bosa, Fred Warner. Hopefully Christian McCaffrey stays healthy.

2587
02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:15,199
Speaker 2: All right, that's the big thing. But if the Niners

2588
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:17,400
Speaker 2: were really to do that, will there be a surprise team? Now,

2589
02:18:17,400 --> 02:18:19,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I think is a surprise team,

2590
02:18:19,400 --> 02:18:21,240
Speaker 2: and you're gonna ask. You can think I'm nuts, but

2591
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm not. The New York Giants win three to fourteen

2592
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:28,760
Speaker 2: last year. They began to Russell Wilson, Jackson, Brian Dad.

2593
02:18:29,080 --> 02:18:31,920
Speaker 2: What they have done is revamp a defensive front seven

2594
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:34,880
Speaker 2: that is absolutely going to be the real deal. Now,

2595
02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to share with you this odd statistic, but

2596
02:18:39,360 --> 02:18:42,840
Speaker 2: you can't completely ignore it. As I've said before, NFL

2597
02:18:42,879 --> 02:18:47,360
Speaker 2: preseason games they don't count, but they do matter. And

2598
02:18:47,400 --> 02:18:50,520
Speaker 2: what if I told you since two thousand and nine,

2599
02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:56,080
Speaker 2: there were only seven teams seven teams that outscored their

2600
02:18:56,160 --> 02:19:00,280
Speaker 2: preseason cumulative opponents by at least sixty points. Now, for

2601
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:01,960
Speaker 2: many of those years he had four games. This year

2602
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:05,520
Speaker 2: he only had three. And of the previous seven teams

2603
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:07,880
Speaker 2: to do it, six of the seven made the playoffs,

2604
02:19:08,160 --> 02:19:11,560
Speaker 2: two won the Super Bowl. That they averaged eleven point

2605
02:19:11,600 --> 02:19:15,080
Speaker 2: one wins per season. And guess what, Russell Wilson was

2606
02:19:15,080 --> 02:19:18,240
Speaker 2: the quarterback for two of those seven teams that outscored

2607
02:19:18,879 --> 02:19:23,920
Speaker 2: their preseason opponents by accumulative sixty points. And the Giants

2608
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:26,080
Speaker 2: happened to play in a division where there hasn't been

2609
02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:30,400
Speaker 2: a repeat winner in twenty one years. Now it seems

2610
02:19:31,520 --> 02:19:34,320
Speaker 2: likely that Philly should repeat unless they screw it up.

2611
02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:37,800
Speaker 2: But they replaced six pieces on defense, and you saw

2612
02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:39,879
Speaker 2: how they looked, and they replaced their offensive coordinator. But

2613
02:19:40,120 --> 02:19:42,760
Speaker 2: they're pretty damn good. But I think the Giants are

2614
02:19:42,800 --> 02:19:44,760
Speaker 2: going to turn things around and have a successful year.

2615
02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:47,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they win seven, eight games, maybe nine games, I

2616
02:19:47,400 --> 02:19:50,640
Speaker 2: don't know. But they are the eighth team since two

2617
02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:52,760
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, and they did in three games to

2618
02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:55,520
Speaker 2: outscore their preseason opponents by at least sixty points. And again,

2619
02:19:55,560 --> 02:19:59,400
Speaker 2: I repeat of the previous seven teams that did that

2620
02:19:59,480 --> 02:20:02,720
Speaker 2: in the last fifteen years, sixteen years, six made the playoffs,

2621
02:20:02,760 --> 02:20:06,560
Speaker 2: two won the Super Bowl, but as a group, cumulatively,

2622
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:09,480
Speaker 2: they averaged eleven point one wins. I am not predicting

2623
02:20:09,520 --> 02:20:11,440
Speaker 2: the Lions are going to go from three wins to eleven.

2624
02:20:12,520 --> 02:20:15,600
Speaker 2: Remember what Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers did about

2625
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:18,880
Speaker 2: eleven years ago. It's not all the roma possibility teams

2626
02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:22,199
Speaker 2: go from worse to first. I don't think the Giants will.

2627
02:20:22,200 --> 02:20:24,320
Speaker 2: I can't say that, and I don't think the New

2628
02:20:24,320 --> 02:20:26,760
Speaker 2: England Patriots will leader because I think Buffalo is going

2629
02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:30,000
Speaker 2: to win that division. But I believe the New England

2630
02:20:30,080 --> 02:20:33,720
Speaker 2: Patriots will also be a surprise team. I like what

2631
02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:37,959
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel's doing. They've revamped their roster, their culture. Drake

2632
02:20:38,040 --> 02:20:42,280
Speaker 2: may is back for a second year the Pats. Also,

2633
02:20:42,440 --> 02:20:46,120
Speaker 2: they actually have the easiest strength of schedule in the

2634
02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:50,080
Speaker 2: entire AFC. Now. The last time the Patriots went from

2635
02:20:50,120 --> 02:20:53,200
Speaker 2: worse to first, that was during Tom Brady's first two

2636
02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:56,320
Speaker 2: seasons with the team. His rookie year when he was

2637
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:58,920
Speaker 2: the starter, the Patriots finished in last place in the

2638
02:20:58,959 --> 02:21:01,240
Speaker 2: AFC with a five and eleven record. One year later,

2639
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:04,440
Speaker 2: the legend of Brady started as he led the team

2640
02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:07,680
Speaker 2: to first place, finish and even beat the Super Bowl

2641
02:21:07,800 --> 02:21:13,119
Speaker 2: Rams who were looking to repeat themselves. So there's still

2642
02:21:13,240 --> 02:21:15,520
Speaker 2: somewhat of a culture there. And with Mike Rabel there

2643
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:18,640
Speaker 2: was part of those teams as a player. He's got

2644
02:21:18,640 --> 02:21:21,920
Speaker 2: things straightened out. I look for them to be as

2645
02:21:21,920 --> 02:21:24,680
Speaker 2: surprised now one last team, because I don't think they're

2646
02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:26,480
Speaker 2: gonna do it. I think the Lions are going to

2647
02:21:26,520 --> 02:21:30,320
Speaker 2: win the NFC north of all the teams of the

2648
02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:32,320
Speaker 2: eight on the list, and I'll go over it more

2649
02:21:32,320 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 2: in detail next week. The Bears were the most recent

2650
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:37,520
Speaker 2: team to go from worse to first. Like I said,

2651
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:41,599
Speaker 2: after finishing five and eleven and twenty seventeen, they rebounded.

2652
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:44,760
Speaker 2: They won seven more games in twenty eighteen they went twelve,

2653
02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:46,920
Speaker 2: and for them, they only played sixteen games back then,

2654
02:21:47,360 --> 02:21:50,199
Speaker 2: so it's not all the realm of possibility. The Raiders

2655
02:21:50,240 --> 02:21:51,920
Speaker 2: are never gone from worse to first. I don't think

2656
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:54,240
Speaker 2: they're going to do it anytime soon. You bring up

2657
02:21:54,280 --> 02:21:56,760
Speaker 2: the rear with the other teams, and we'll get to

2658
02:21:56,800 --> 02:21:57,480
Speaker 2: that next week.

2659
02:21:57,520 --> 02:21:57,680
Speaker 6: Now.

2660
02:21:57,680 --> 02:22:02,160
Speaker 2: As you know, we covered all the show and we

2661
02:22:02,200 --> 02:22:04,800
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time between here and you know,

2662
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:07,359
Speaker 2: the second week in February. We're gonna be very football

2663
02:22:07,400 --> 02:22:10,240
Speaker 2: centric because that's what people want, and for good reason.

2664
02:22:10,760 --> 02:22:15,119
Speaker 2: We also cover with the other sport spelled futbol. It's

2665
02:22:15,160 --> 02:22:18,680
Speaker 2: played internationally and next year we've got World Cup coming

2666
02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:22,440
Speaker 2: to North America. It's time for Christophett's World of Soccer.

2667
02:22:23,879 --> 02:22:39,920
Speaker 3: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum, it's

2668
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:43,240
Speaker 3: all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2669
02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:46,720
Speaker 21: Well, we got through the summer trendsfer windows this last

2670
02:22:46,720 --> 02:22:47,840
Speaker 21: time we talked to Bernie.

2671
02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:50,279
Speaker 5: We've had some big matches in the Premier.

2672
02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:53,400
Speaker 21: League, including one against Arsenal and Liverpool that saw the

2673
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:56,560
Speaker 21: defending champions coming out on top. But it's already time

2674
02:22:56,680 --> 02:23:01,760
Speaker 21: for a international break. Yeah, somehow we didn't seem to

2675
02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:04,440
Speaker 21: have a lot of time away or really even to

2676
02:23:04,600 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 21: enjoy the club soccer right before international teams started getting

2677
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:13,680
Speaker 21: back together for more World Cup qualifiers and friendlies. And

2678
02:23:13,720 --> 02:23:16,360
Speaker 21: where shall we start. Let's you know what, Let's start

2679
02:23:16,400 --> 02:23:18,360
Speaker 21: with the home team. Let's start with the US, who

2680
02:23:18,400 --> 02:23:20,680
Speaker 21: once again went out there and had a friendly that

2681
02:23:21,879 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 21: is going to have to really be buried deep, this

2682
02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:30,800
Speaker 21: time a two nil loss to South Korea. Sun whom

2683
02:23:30,879 --> 02:23:34,280
Speaker 21: Men who is new of LAFC, scoring a goal there

2684
02:23:34,440 --> 02:23:38,039
Speaker 21: along with his countryman Lee dong Yon. But nothing for

2685
02:23:38,080 --> 02:23:42,280
Speaker 21: the United States. Another showing for this nation where there's

2686
02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:47,200
Speaker 21: just trouble across the board, defensive issues being really the key.

2687
02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:51,200
Speaker 21: The key trouble here really going back to the CONCAFF

2688
02:23:51,280 --> 02:23:54,119
Speaker 21: Gold Cup where a lot of the same troubles were there.

2689
02:23:54,200 --> 02:23:57,040
Speaker 21: But I just don't know what the fix is right now,

2690
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:59,480
Speaker 21: and I've kind of been thrown up my hands each

2691
02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:02,520
Speaker 21: time I watch the United States. This is a team

2692
02:24:02,520 --> 02:24:05,600
Speaker 21: that will be hosting in less than a year, and

2693
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:09,560
Speaker 21: I'm not sure why I should look at the United

2694
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:12,680
Speaker 21: States and say that they will exit the group stage

2695
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:16,400
Speaker 21: in the World Cup with their automatic qualifier. This is

2696
02:24:16,440 --> 02:24:19,520
Speaker 21: the second time under Pachettino, second time in a year

2697
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:24,000
Speaker 21: two suffering back to back losses. The United States is

2698
02:24:24,040 --> 02:24:28,080
Speaker 21: winless in seven games against top twenty five teams, losing

2699
02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:32,840
Speaker 21: six of those matches. We did see some progress during

2700
02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:34,840
Speaker 21: the Gold Cup. We did see them finally turn around

2701
02:24:34,879 --> 02:24:39,760
Speaker 21: and start beating up on Saudi Arabia and Haiti, needing

2702
02:24:39,800 --> 02:24:42,000
Speaker 21: to go to penalties to beat Costa Rica in a

2703
02:24:42,040 --> 02:24:45,560
Speaker 21: two to one win over Guatemala. But like those aren't

2704
02:24:45,720 --> 02:24:48,440
Speaker 21: the type of nations you will be playing in the

2705
02:24:48,440 --> 02:24:51,280
Speaker 21: World Cup. And South Korea, for as good as a

2706
02:24:51,320 --> 02:24:55,000
Speaker 21: player as some human is, it is not a world beater.

2707
02:24:55,600 --> 02:24:58,160
Speaker 21: The Asian teams are not on the level of Europe

2708
02:24:58,480 --> 02:25:01,280
Speaker 21: or South America. You have a friendly coming up in

2709
02:25:01,320 --> 02:25:05,360
Speaker 21: about three days against Japan, and if things can't get

2710
02:25:05,400 --> 02:25:08,840
Speaker 21: going by then, I don't know what to really say

2711
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:11,560
Speaker 21: about the World Cup. I understand the World Cup is

2712
02:25:11,640 --> 02:25:15,760
Speaker 21: like nine months eight months away or so, but what

2713
02:25:15,800 --> 02:25:17,640
Speaker 21: am I supposed to do with this? This is a

2714
02:25:17,680 --> 02:25:23,320
Speaker 21: team that continues to look lifeless, listless, lost. It's great

2715
02:25:23,360 --> 02:25:26,879
Speaker 21: stars that are supposed to be soaring savants are not

2716
02:25:26,959 --> 02:25:32,520
Speaker 21: appearing on the field. Defensive issues are completely cratering this team.

2717
02:25:32,680 --> 02:25:36,400
Speaker 21: Christian Bulisic is nowhere to be found. Sergino desk was

2718
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:38,360
Speaker 21: back in the lineup, but I'm not even sure I

2719
02:25:38,400 --> 02:25:40,560
Speaker 21: really liked what I saw out of him. The only

2720
02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 21: one I really feel like I gave any good grades

2721
02:25:43,360 --> 02:25:48,039
Speaker 21: of the US players out there was probably Sebastian Berhalter,

2722
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:52,520
Speaker 21: and the little bit we saw of Falarimbaliguan and Ballogan

2723
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:54,160
Speaker 21: at this point, in my mind, should be on the

2724
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:57,680
Speaker 21: starting eleven. There's no reason for him to be subbed in,

2725
02:25:58,520 --> 02:26:01,800
Speaker 21: but rest assured, we'll move like putting in Ballaguan over

2726
02:26:01,879 --> 02:26:05,520
Speaker 21: someone like sergeant isn't saving this team right now from

2727
02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:09,120
Speaker 21: an ignominious group stage exit at the World Cup.

2728
02:26:10,320 --> 02:26:12,320
Speaker 5: The way they have been playing for all of.

2729
02:26:12,280 --> 02:26:15,400
Speaker 21: Twenty twenty five and part of twenty twenty four, I

2730
02:26:15,440 --> 02:26:21,039
Speaker 21: am struggling, struggling to see how this team gets gets

2731
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:24,119
Speaker 21: out of the group in twenty twenty six. But let's

2732
02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:27,240
Speaker 21: not keep things just on the grim side when talking

2733
02:26:27,280 --> 02:26:30,760
Speaker 21: about the United States. There were a couple other stories

2734
02:26:30,760 --> 02:26:34,160
Speaker 21: from this international break so far. One is a very

2735
02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:38,000
Speaker 21: big injury that happened with France that has once again

2736
02:26:38,959 --> 02:26:42,680
Speaker 21: really rankled the ire of Paris Saint Germain.

2737
02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:45,039
Speaker 5: This is a topic I really love.

2738
02:26:45,120 --> 02:26:49,520
Speaker 21: I love the conflict between clubs and nations over what

2739
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 21: happens with their players, because I feel at some point

2740
02:26:52,080 --> 02:26:54,240
Speaker 21: there is going to come to a head and you

2741
02:26:54,360 --> 02:26:56,720
Speaker 21: need to not look no further than what happened on

2742
02:26:56,800 --> 02:27:01,959
Speaker 21: Friday when Usman Dembele in a match between France and

2743
02:27:02,040 --> 02:27:05,400
Speaker 21: you against the Ukraine, he went the forward, went out

2744
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:10,439
Speaker 21: there and suffered a significant, a quote unquote.

2745
02:27:10,120 --> 02:27:12,720
Speaker 5: Serious injury to his hamstring.

2746
02:27:13,400 --> 02:27:15,840
Speaker 21: It will probably sign him line him for about I

2747
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,960
Speaker 21: would say six weeks or so, and Paris and Germaine

2748
02:27:19,480 --> 02:27:23,960
Speaker 21: is not happy about this. Den Bell was a favorite

2749
02:27:23,959 --> 02:27:27,440
Speaker 21: to lift the Blondior Trophy this year. They're not going

2750
02:27:27,480 --> 02:27:29,560
Speaker 21: to have him for the first match of the Champions

2751
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:34,000
Speaker 21: League against Atalanta, probably not the one against Barcelona, maybe

2752
02:27:34,040 --> 02:27:37,160
Speaker 21: not even their third one as well. And he's also

2753
02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:40,080
Speaker 21: going to miss a lot of League One games as

2754
02:27:40,120 --> 02:27:43,640
Speaker 21: well too. And to be honest, there was really no

2755
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:46,800
Speaker 21: reason whatsoever to play dem Bell in this game. So

2756
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:49,600
Speaker 21: I can understand the frustration the PSG as they have

2757
02:27:49,879 --> 02:27:52,680
Speaker 21: just seen one of their top players suddenly missing a

2758
02:27:52,720 --> 02:27:55,680
Speaker 21: significant amount of time. And one more quick story from

2759
02:27:55,720 --> 02:27:59,440
Speaker 21: the international break, Christiano Ronaldo, forty years old, netted a

2760
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:01,640
Speaker 21: brace as Portugal crushed.

2761
02:28:01,360 --> 02:28:02,520
Speaker 5: Armenia five nil.

2762
02:28:02,840 --> 02:28:05,000
Speaker 21: It puts him at one hundred and forty goals for

2763
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:09,360
Speaker 21: his long storied career, thirty eight goals in World Cup qualifiers, too,

2764
02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:12,560
Speaker 21: clear of Leonel Messi, only one behind the all time

2765
02:28:12,680 --> 02:28:18,360
Speaker 21: leader Carlos Rowez. Ronaldo, even at age forty, what else

2766
02:28:18,400 --> 02:28:20,320
Speaker 21: can you say? I know he hasn't exactly been in

2767
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:23,280
Speaker 21: our imaginations because he've been playing in Saudi Arabia where

2768
02:28:23,400 --> 02:28:26,120
Speaker 21: his rival Lionel Messi's playing in the United States. But

2769
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:30,080
Speaker 21: he just signed a new contract with Al Nasser. This

2770
02:28:30,160 --> 02:28:32,800
Speaker 21: is his probably last chance in the World Cup to

2771
02:28:32,879 --> 02:28:35,240
Speaker 21: get the trophy that is eluding him and putting him

2772
02:28:35,280 --> 02:28:36,359
Speaker 21: on equal ground.

2773
02:28:36,400 --> 02:28:37,640
Speaker 5: With Leonel Messi.

2774
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:42,080
Speaker 21: Rest assured, Cristiano Ronaldo is not done and the next

2775
02:28:42,120 --> 02:28:44,760
Speaker 21: calendar year could be one of his greatest. If he

2776
02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:48,040
Speaker 21: can keep things together and play strong for Portugal, that'll

2777
02:28:48,040 --> 02:28:49,840
Speaker 21: do it for us. Bernie, We'll see you next time

2778
02:28:49,959 --> 02:28:50,880
Speaker 21: on the World of Soccer.

2779
02:28:52,760 --> 02:28:55,960
Speaker 2: We're months away from the twenty twenty six feet for

2780
02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:59,720
Speaker 2: World Cup. That's what got this feature started back in

2781
02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:03,400
Speaker 2: the late twenty twenty two when World Cup was in

2782
02:29:03,440 --> 02:29:08,680
Speaker 2: November that year. But this coming year it will be

2783
02:29:08,680 --> 02:29:11,080
Speaker 2: co hosted by the United States, Mexico, and Canada, making

2784
02:29:11,080 --> 02:29:14,480
Speaker 2: the first time three countries have hosted the tournament all

2785
02:29:14,480 --> 02:29:16,920
Speaker 2: and of course are they're all in North America and

2786
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:20,320
Speaker 2: the first to feature this expanded forty eight nation format.

2787
02:29:20,360 --> 02:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Forty eight nations. So the tournament is going to start

2788
02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:25,080
Speaker 2: June eleventh, and it will go all the way to

2789
02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:30,240
Speaker 2: July nineteenth, and the qualifying matches are going to start

2790
02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:32,760
Speaker 2: happening in early twenty twenty six thirty eight day tournament,

2791
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:37,840
Speaker 2: so this ought to be something to see. In the end,

2792
02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:42,280
Speaker 2: it'll be well, we'll save that for later. Coming up,

2793
02:29:42,320 --> 02:29:46,000
Speaker 2: we wrap up the show, and I want to make

2794
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:48,840
Speaker 2: a quick comment on one coach. You might be surprised

2795
02:29:48,879 --> 02:29:50,600
Speaker 2: that I actually thinks on the hot seat this year

2796
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:53,120
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Next week we're going to go into

2797
02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:56,080
Speaker 2: more depth about multiple coaches that are probably on the

2798
02:29:56,120 --> 02:29:59,280
Speaker 2: hot seat. And then I have a question. Are the

2799
02:29:59,320 --> 02:30:03,760
Speaker 2: Detroit line it's getting dissed? I think they are, and

2800
02:30:03,800 --> 02:30:06,160
Speaker 2: I think people are making a mistake, and I'll tell

2801
02:30:06,200 --> 02:30:08,800
Speaker 2: you why. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to live from

2802
02:30:08,840 --> 02:30:11,800
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked.

2803
02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:14,560
Speaker 2: Listen is to Bernie Fradtle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2804
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:17,640
Speaker 2: All right, we're wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle

2805
02:30:17,720 --> 02:30:22,279
Speaker 2: Show Special. Thanks to my producers Mark and Brianna. And yes,

2806
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:26,640
Speaker 2: the seven month wait is over. We are seven hours

2807
02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:31,560
Speaker 2: and fifteen minutes from our first full NFL Sunday. Eight

2808
02:30:31,640 --> 02:30:35,240
Speaker 2: games in the early window, four games in the afternoon,

2809
02:30:35,280 --> 02:30:39,039
Speaker 2: and then you got the National Saturday Sunday Night TV

2810
02:30:39,120 --> 02:30:42,120
Speaker 2: game Baltimore and Buffalo, and then Monday Night the Bears

2811
02:30:42,160 --> 02:30:46,440
Speaker 2: and Vikings, and starting later today, twenty two straight sundays

2812
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:50,840
Speaker 2: of NFL football. I know it'll probably go by too fast,

2813
02:30:50,840 --> 02:30:54,280
Speaker 2: but we're going to enjoy it the entire way as

2814
02:30:54,320 --> 02:30:57,840
Speaker 2: I believe the Detroit Lions are. Now. Are the Detroit

2815
02:30:57,879 --> 02:31:03,320
Speaker 2: Lions getting dissed? I say yes, unless we forget the

2816
02:31:03,400 --> 02:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions went fifteen and two last season and they're

2817
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:08,840
Speaker 2: not even favored to win the NFC North coming into

2818
02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:11,440
Speaker 2: this season. The Green Bay Packers are. They're this shiny

2819
02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:16,000
Speaker 2: new toy, especially now after acquiring Michael Parsons, And I

2820
02:31:16,040 --> 02:31:18,120
Speaker 2: guess it might make sense on paper, but the games

2821
02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:20,960
Speaker 2: aren't played on paper. But the Packers have a deep squad,

2822
02:31:20,959 --> 02:31:22,800
Speaker 2: they got a young roster, they just needed a little

2823
02:31:22,840 --> 02:31:26,880
Speaker 2: superstar to add to their defense, and with that acquisition

2824
02:31:26,959 --> 02:31:29,160
Speaker 2: they took over as betting favorites to win the division.

2825
02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:32,400
Speaker 2: I'm not buying it now against the Lion again. The

2826
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:36,160
Speaker 2: Lions went fifteen to two last season, and that seems

2827
02:31:36,200 --> 02:31:39,680
Speaker 2: to have been forgotten this offseason. See for months, every

2828
02:31:39,720 --> 02:31:43,400
Speaker 2: conversation has been about the Lions, and it's only included

2829
02:31:43,400 --> 02:31:46,080
Speaker 2: two names. Ben Johnson and Aaron Glynn. Now both were

2830
02:31:46,080 --> 02:31:50,720
Speaker 2: fantastic coaches, both did fine work as the Lions coordinators.

2831
02:31:51,440 --> 02:31:55,160
Speaker 2: They earned their head coaching gigs with the Bears and Jets, respectively.

2832
02:31:55,959 --> 02:31:58,840
Speaker 2: But let's not act like the Lions are having Jared

2833
02:31:58,879 --> 02:32:03,480
Speaker 2: Goff draw plays in the dirt. They don't have actual

2834
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:09,080
Speaker 2: professional coaches as coordinators, and it just hasn't seemed that

2835
02:32:09,120 --> 02:32:12,840
Speaker 2: way based on the offseason narrative. Now, don't think the

2836
02:32:12,879 --> 02:32:16,080
Speaker 2: Lions haven't heard this. Don't think they haven't noticed their

2837
02:32:16,120 --> 02:32:20,080
Speaker 2: being overlooked. Perhaps they can tell you the odds right now.

2838
02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:22,760
Speaker 2: They're two to one to win the NFC North if

2839
02:32:22,800 --> 02:32:25,920
Speaker 2: you happen to be interested. But they know what the

2840
02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:31,320
Speaker 2: storyline is, and that storyline is not acknowledging. Detroit was

2841
02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:35,480
Speaker 2: the best team over the regular season last season, better

2842
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:37,680
Speaker 2: than the Keagles and Chiefs who played the Super Bowl.

2843
02:32:37,879 --> 02:32:43,320
Speaker 2: There's this one problem. They lost eleven players on defense

2844
02:32:43,360 --> 02:32:45,760
Speaker 2: who at the start at least one game. The keen

2845
02:32:45,760 --> 02:32:49,120
Speaker 2: relative effect of that no one could have sustained. The

2846
02:32:49,200 --> 02:32:52,640
Speaker 2: Lions won fifteen games last year with the league best

2847
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:56,720
Speaker 2: point differential of plus two twenty two. And again I

2848
02:32:56,800 --> 02:33:01,960
Speaker 2: repeat that came despite a massive amount of injuries on defense.

2849
02:33:03,200 --> 02:33:06,920
Speaker 2: Now most of the Lion's corps has returned. The Lions

2850
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:11,119
Speaker 2: won't have their seller offensive lineman Frank Ragnow or Kevin Zeitler,

2851
02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:15,480
Speaker 2: but no roster is perfect. And yes, the Packers added Parsons,

2852
02:33:16,480 --> 02:33:20,160
Speaker 2: but the Lions are adding star defensive end Aiden Hutchinson

2853
02:33:20,320 --> 02:33:25,320
Speaker 2: after he missed virtually all last season. Meanwhile, the Lions

2854
02:33:25,320 --> 02:33:29,320
Speaker 2: have sat back and listened to people gush about every

2855
02:33:29,320 --> 02:33:33,120
Speaker 2: other team other than this this offseason. Their intention is

2856
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:37,119
Speaker 2: to remind everyone on Sunday, it's one of the late

2857
02:33:37,160 --> 02:33:40,000
Speaker 2: games in the window. They played Green Bay in Green Bay,

2858
02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:42,880
Speaker 2: and I remind you the Lions have had green Bay's number.

2859
02:33:43,720 --> 02:33:45,960
Speaker 2: They've you know, they've rode them like a stick horse

2860
02:33:46,040 --> 02:33:48,240
Speaker 2: these last few years. Five of the last six they've won.

2861
02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:55,360
Speaker 2: And they're getting points. Another divisional dog like we talked about.

2862
02:33:57,320 --> 02:34:01,960
Speaker 2: So we've got a situation now, where do the Lions

2863
02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:03,959
Speaker 2: get out of the gate Sunday? I think they do.

2864
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:07,640
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna jump ahead because I made this statement

2865
02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:12,560
Speaker 2: on Jason mcintarry's podcast Straight Fire. Everybody's got the Ravens.

2866
02:34:12,560 --> 02:34:15,039
Speaker 2: They're the trendy pick to win the Super Bowl. I

2867
02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:18,760
Speaker 2: don't think they will. I think the Lions will be

2868
02:34:18,800 --> 02:34:21,440
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. I think the Buffalo Bills will

2869
02:34:21,440 --> 02:34:23,280
Speaker 2: be in the super Bowl. And I got a funny

2870
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:25,720
Speaker 2: feeling Buffalo is gonna prevail. Now, there's never been a

2871
02:34:25,720 --> 02:34:28,120
Speaker 2: team on hard knocks that won the Super Bowl. There's

2872
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:30,640
Speaker 2: no such sing as a curse. This Buffalo team is ready,

2873
02:34:30,760 --> 02:34:35,440
Speaker 2: and interestingly enough, later on, this is the eight o'clock eastern,

2874
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:40,359
Speaker 2: five o'clock Pacific National TV standalone game. It's Baltimore and Buffalo,

2875
02:34:40,480 --> 02:34:42,360
Speaker 2: and it doesn't mean much because Buffalo is going to

2876
02:34:42,400 --> 02:34:45,640
Speaker 2: win their division. It might mean who has home field

2877
02:34:45,640 --> 02:34:49,640
Speaker 2: advantaged throughout the playoffs, which always helps. That could contribute

2878
02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:54,280
Speaker 2: to that. But you'll get a flavor for those two

2879
02:34:54,320 --> 02:34:57,280
Speaker 2: teams on Sunday night. So there you have it. I'm

2880
02:34:57,360 --> 02:35:00,760
Speaker 2: put it out there. I think the Super Bowl, which

2881
02:35:00,840 --> 02:35:03,080
Speaker 2: is be played at Device Stadium this year in San Francisco,

2882
02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:07,240
Speaker 2: will be Detroit and Buffalo with Buffalo prevailing. Now, one

2883
02:35:07,280 --> 02:35:09,120
Speaker 2: other thing, and this is one of my least favorite

2884
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:12,440
Speaker 2: things to talk about on the air, but it's reality.

2885
02:35:13,200 --> 02:35:17,200
Speaker 2: There are multiple NFL hot seat coaches with something to

2886
02:35:17,240 --> 02:35:20,000
Speaker 2: prove this year. Now, just turn the clock back one

2887
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:23,040
Speaker 2: year at this time. They were proven seasons that were

2888
02:35:23,080 --> 02:35:28,480
Speaker 2: already underway for Mike McCarthy, Robert Salah, Matt Eberflus, Dennis Allen,

2889
02:35:28,840 --> 02:35:33,519
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson, and even you forget, might have developed amiesia.

2890
02:35:33,840 --> 02:35:39,039
Speaker 2: Even Nick Sirianni was getting the SIDEI Siriani won the

2891
02:35:39,040 --> 02:35:43,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. That's the safest way to guarantee job security. Now,

2892
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:47,080
Speaker 2: the other five, they've already become former head coaches. Sala

2893
02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:50,320
Speaker 2: now with the Niners, Eberflues with the Cowboys, and I

2894
02:35:50,360 --> 02:35:53,880
Speaker 2: told you about what he did and that final defensive

2895
02:35:53,879 --> 02:35:58,840
Speaker 2: scheme that allow Jalen Hurts to basically seal the game.

2896
02:36:00,120 --> 02:36:02,120
Speaker 2: Not good in situational football with the Bears, and he

2897
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:07,720
Speaker 2: wasn't Thursday night. Dennis Allen is with the Bears. I'll

2898
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:10,280
Speaker 2: check that he stepped back into a defensive coordinator role.

2899
02:36:11,040 --> 02:36:14,959
Speaker 2: And Macarthy and Peterson they'll be fans this year. I

2900
02:36:14,959 --> 02:36:17,480
Speaker 2: don't think you're going to see that same level of

2901
02:36:17,640 --> 02:36:22,200
Speaker 2: turnover this season. But there are at least four coaches

2902
02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:24,879
Speaker 2: that I believe are on the proverbial hot seat. And

2903
02:36:24,920 --> 02:36:26,400
Speaker 2: then one name I'm going to give you that I

2904
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:29,840
Speaker 2: believe is going to surprise you. Because everybody's expecting the

2905
02:36:29,879 --> 02:36:34,240
Speaker 2: world out of this team, and that's Zach Taylor the Bengals.

2906
02:36:35,080 --> 02:36:38,560
Speaker 2: I think you can pin the absence in last year's

2907
02:36:38,640 --> 02:36:44,320
Speaker 2: playoffs for Cincinnati on a couple of things. But they

2908
02:36:44,360 --> 02:36:47,560
Speaker 2: made some changes. They replaced both their defensive coordator and

2909
02:36:47,640 --> 02:36:51,760
Speaker 2: offensive line coach, and they're now emphasizing a lot of

2910
02:36:51,800 --> 02:36:56,160
Speaker 2: preseason reps with their starters, which they did to avoid

2911
02:36:56,200 --> 02:36:59,959
Speaker 2: another slow start, which they have been notoriously slow starters

2912
02:36:59,640 --> 02:37:03,960
Speaker 2: the four games the last three years. That's ultimately cost him. Now,

2913
02:37:03,959 --> 02:37:06,880
Speaker 2: if the Bengals again disappoint, I don't think there will

2914
02:37:06,920 --> 02:37:10,080
Speaker 2: be anybody to blame this time, but Zach Taylor. Despite

2915
02:37:10,120 --> 02:37:13,400
Speaker 2: his offensive success and the fact that he does have

2916
02:37:13,440 --> 02:37:16,880
Speaker 2: a good relationship with Joe Burrow, Zach Taylor really needs

2917
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:19,720
Speaker 2: his defensive and offensive line to be at least average

2918
02:37:19,959 --> 02:37:21,640
Speaker 2: for the Bengals to bill on their second half of

2919
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:24,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four when they were six and three. If not,

2920
02:37:24,640 --> 02:37:29,360
Speaker 2: there will definitely be questions over his future and they

2921
02:37:29,360 --> 02:37:31,880
Speaker 2: will be justified. Now, I'll give you a couple of

2922
02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:34,440
Speaker 2: names I don't think should be on the hot seat.

2923
02:37:34,480 --> 02:37:39,560
Speaker 2: This one also surprised you. Kevin Stefanski, the Browns should

2924
02:37:39,600 --> 02:37:43,280
Speaker 2: be thanking Kevin Stefanski for sticking it out in Cleveland.

2925
02:37:43,280 --> 02:37:44,880
Speaker 2: He was coach of the Year twice, Coach of the

2926
02:37:44,920 --> 02:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Year two years ago. Given the craziness and uncertainty and

2927
02:37:48,680 --> 02:37:53,840
Speaker 2: quarterback and all the low expectations, and Brian Callahan in

2928
02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:56,440
Speaker 2: Tennessee should get at least two full seasons with cam

2929
02:37:56,480 --> 02:38:00,920
Speaker 2: Ward In Arizona, Jonathan Gannon, I think his job security

2930
02:38:01,000 --> 02:38:04,160
Speaker 2: is stronger than ever. And if Kyler Murray can stay

2931
02:38:04,200 --> 02:38:06,600
Speaker 2: healthy and play to his potential as he should be,

2932
02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:11,600
Speaker 2: Arizona's going to be another surprise team. They were tough

2933
02:38:11,600 --> 02:38:15,440
Speaker 2: out last year and they're gonna be good again this year. Finally,

2934
02:38:15,480 --> 02:38:19,199
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, I don't think he's going anywhere. His contract

2935
02:38:19,360 --> 02:38:22,280
Speaker 2: runs through at least twenty twenty seven. That's three more years,

2936
02:38:22,480 --> 02:38:25,720
Speaker 2: which would be twenty one seasons in Philadelphia. Everybody always

2937
02:38:25,720 --> 02:38:29,600
Speaker 2: screams to get rid of Tomlin. Listen when Steve Young

2938
02:38:29,680 --> 02:38:31,920
Speaker 2: left the forty nine ers, and when John Elway left

2939
02:38:31,920 --> 02:38:36,119
Speaker 2: the Broncos and Dan Marino left the Dolphins. Quarterback, quarterback, quarterback.

2940
02:38:36,160 --> 02:38:39,440
Speaker 2: These teams are quarterbacks leave and you just don't. Pittsburgh

2941
02:38:39,440 --> 02:38:43,600
Speaker 2: really hasn't done much since Ben Roethlisberger left. They've danced around,

2942
02:38:43,640 --> 02:38:46,200
Speaker 2: they've made the playoffs, they've had some good regular seasons,

2943
02:38:46,600 --> 02:38:50,200
Speaker 2: but they've yet to capitalize on that franchise quarterback. And

2944
02:38:50,680 --> 02:38:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what Aaron Rodgers can do. They're gonna

2945
02:38:52,520 --> 02:38:55,600
Speaker 2: run him this year. But I like Mike Tomlin. I

2946
02:38:55,640 --> 02:38:58,400
Speaker 2: think that the bashing Tomlin's ridiculously going to replace him with.

2947
02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:02,000
Speaker 2: And you know, the Steelers, the most stable franchise, had

2948
02:39:02,040 --> 02:39:05,920
Speaker 2: three coaches in what fifty five years, Chuck Knowle and

2949
02:39:05,959 --> 02:39:09,959
Speaker 2: then Bill Cower and now Tomlin. No of them were fired.

2950
02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:13,080
Speaker 2: They quit. It's a trivia question. The last Steeler coach

2951
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:14,520
Speaker 2: it was fired. I can't think of him right now.

2952
02:39:14,800 --> 02:39:18,440
Speaker 2: Next week we're going to talk about Brian Dable and

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Speaker 2: this is my thoughts on him. Mike McDaniel, I think

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Speaker 2: he might be an offensive guru, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: he he has a situation there in Miami. And we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about Shane Steichen as well. It's good do it

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Speaker 2: for the Bernie Frattle Show. Keep it locked up next

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Speaker 2: to Great Andy Furman. He'll put a smile on your face.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio