WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: The Doc Returns & the Con Continues

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<v Speaker 1>Kubbooms.

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<v Speaker 2>If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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<v Speaker 2>a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants

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<v Speaker 2>of the old Republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He

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<v Speaker 2>treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the

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<v Speaker 2>rich pill poppers in the penthouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The Clearinghouse of Hot takes break free for something special.

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<v Speaker 2>The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with me Ben Maler,

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and Danny g Radio. A Happy Friday to year,

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<v Speaker 1>the twelfth day of September. As we are one game

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<v Speaker 1>in two week number two, week number two of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL season of the Packers and the Commanders last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you have a full weekend of the Fifth Hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and we kick it off right now on this edition

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday Special, after a very long overnight show, The

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Special. We've got bugs, Bunny Truman, and possibly some

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<v Speaker 1>other things. But we're gonna begin with this. So, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Fifth Hour a tribute to the Overnight Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me talk about whatever pops up in the head

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<v Speaker 1>that I have on top of my body here. So

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<v Speaker 1>the text arrived the other day. It was during the

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<v Speaker 1>radio show and the text said are you on the radio?

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<v Speaker 1>Which I thought was odd because I was literally doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show. It was like midway through the show and

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<v Speaker 1>the text came in, are you on the radio? And

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<v Speaker 1>so I wrote back, yes, I'm on the radio, and

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<v Speaker 1>then silence, and minutes later, the call screening board in

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<v Speaker 1>my computer lit up. Now, they keep the studio usually

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<v Speaker 1>pretty dark, except when we're recording the YouTube videos, so

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<v Speaker 1>the callboard lights up. Now. I had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other calls and then I see the name and it

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<v Speaker 1>starts flashing on my left hand side. I see the name,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's the city the callers from. It's from Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Callers from Chicago, and not just any caller. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not just your run of the mill radio caller. If

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<v Speaker 1>you missed it. This week we had the glorious return

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<v Speaker 1>of Doc Mike. Doc Mike popped up out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>He is back, well, he was back for one day.

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<v Speaker 1>He called the show the other night. Now his first

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<v Speaker 1>call and much. I actually got some email from people

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<v Speaker 1>who have listened to the show for a very brief

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time and they're like, tell me more about

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Doc Mike, and so rather than right back

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<v Speaker 1>to people, because I'm very bad about that. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>emailed me, I probably haven't written back. Bad job by me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a schmuck. So I said, rather than right back

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<v Speaker 1>to these people, I will use my platform, the pie

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<v Speaker 1>pulpit here on the fifth hour, and I will reminisce

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<v Speaker 1>about the caller known as Doc Mike. So Doc did

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<v Speaker 1>return to the show. He called for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in probably five six months, maybe longer than that. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like it had been years. Seemed like it had

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<v Speaker 1>been years. I'm going to decapitate a goat, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like, Hey, I was running into an old friend.

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<v Speaker 1>You everyone into somebody at the grocery store or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. He sah, look at that. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>you were still around. Yeah, I didn't know you were

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<v Speaker 1>around either. And it's like the old friend, the one

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<v Speaker 1>who always has a story, that really good storyteller, And

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, this is our friend that's got stories

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<v Speaker 1>that are half brilliant, half insane, and completely unforgettable, completely unforgettable.

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<v Speaker 1>That is Doc Mike in a nutshell. He's not just

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<v Speaker 1>a radio caller, he's a headline. He's also a Hasmad

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<v Speaker 1>alert as you're gonna learn if you've don't know that story.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's the reason, one of the reasons that sports

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<v Speaker 1>radio is never just about the sports. Now, we learned

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<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic years ago, that's not really about the sports.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not We had the most listeners we've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>to Fox Sports Radio when there were no baseball games,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no NBA playoff games, there was no sports.

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<v Speaker 1>We had more people listening in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic than we've ever had since or before. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was insane. So many of you have been with

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<v Speaker 1>me on this audio journey out into the twilight Zone,

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<v Speaker 1>and so some of you know these stories. But for

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<v Speaker 1>those that are new, and we love that there are

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<v Speaker 1>new people that find the show because they end up

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<v Speaker 1>working the dreaded overnight shift. All I say it's the

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<v Speaker 1>dreaded day shift. For them, they say it's the dreaded

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<v Speaker 1>overnight shift. So you know the Goadhead story. I think

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<v Speaker 1>everyone does. I mentioned it briefly the other day. He

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<v Speaker 1>left one at Wrigley Field. He's actually done this a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. Doc Mike, the Mayor of Chicago. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the great stories as long as I'm around, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>remember this, and when I died, that'll be it. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Mayor of Chicago, Rama Manuel, at the time, the

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<v Speaker 1>cub head, our goathead knocked was dropped off. They knocked

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<v Speaker 1>on the cub's offices, dropped off this goathead, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>the story was and the cub game got rained out

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<v Speaker 1>that day, so there was no story, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>media latched on to the goatthead. The mayor of Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, Ram Emmanuel, comes out and says that

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<v Speaker 1>all police resources would be used to find out whoever

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<v Speaker 1>did it. They wanted to get to the bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't treat it like some prank. They were very upset.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about that a goat heead in a box

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<v Speaker 1>created the same level of urgency for the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago as a citywide manhunt. How ridiculous is that? And

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite part of that story is that Doc Mike

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<v Speaker 1>was kind enough to call me up as he was

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<v Speaker 1>arriving at Iconic Wrigley Field, Chicago, and he had his

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<v Speaker 1>phone and he was doing play by play. He saw Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the goathhead. I'm going to go here. He's

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<v Speaker 1>describing where he's dropping the goat head off. He's doing

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<v Speaker 1>play by play as this is going on. So juxtapose

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm playing back this message because I was sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>when he sent it. It was early in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. Cubs were playing a day game. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing at Giants. So I'm hearing this, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing on the internet. I'm seeing the Mayor of

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago say, hey, we got to find who did this.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was the funniest thing. I still chuckle about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's the time that Doc Mike decided that

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<v Speaker 1>I needed a goat head and he mailed me a

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<v Speaker 1>goat actually mail a couple, and there was a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with one of them send it to the Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 1>radio studios. Now one famously leaked blood through the packaging,

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<v Speaker 1>and this created a very tent situation in the mail room.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't know what's in the box. They had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what was in the box, so this became a

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<v Speaker 1>hazmat situation. I get yelled at. People are screaming at

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<v Speaker 1>me and management. Management's changed. They were screaming, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing. You can't be having this, Senor. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell them to send it. You can't be having this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff center. I'm not in control of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>Postal Service. I cannot stop someone from sending something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't have people send this stuff here. I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't tell the person to send it. They

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<v Speaker 1>chose to send it. You can't send it here. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that, but I told you I someone can mail

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<v Speaker 1>me something all they want. It's not illegal to mail

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<v Speaker 1>something unless it's a hazard. Anyway, we went back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a result, I was banned embargoed to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>say I could not receive mail. I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>like six months. They would not not receive any mail.

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<v Speaker 1>He just returned all mail that was sent to me

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<v Speaker 1>as an active protest. Now Doc mailed, as we say,

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<v Speaker 1>several goattheads in that whole thing. Miranda Marino was my producer.

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<v Speaker 1>She got a GoAhead, which she didn't want at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Another fun factoried about Doc Mike. Every presidential election since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty zero four, so we are over twenty years. Doc

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<v Speaker 1>Mike has run for president one of these fringe parties

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<v Speaker 1>that gets no votes. So Doc Mike has run for

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<v Speaker 1>president and he's always been kind enough to include me

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<v Speaker 1>as his vice presidential candidate. You see, there's no caucus.

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<v Speaker 1>When Doc Mike decides to run for president, he just

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<v Speaker 1>does it. Unfortunately, we never picked up any votes. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. We did get some votes people would send me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like twenty oh eight. I vaguely remember people

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<v Speaker 1>sending me photos they were in the ballot box and

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<v Speaker 1>they wrote they wrote in Mike and Ben Maller in

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<v Speaker 1>the Battle of Box. I thought, well, that's both wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>and horrific at the same time. So then there was

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<v Speaker 1>the Cansa City story. Doc big fan of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>drove down from Chicago to Kansas City. Not that bad

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<v Speaker 1>a drive, but still a decent trip. And he shows

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<v Speaker 1>up to the Malar Meet and greet and he sets

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<v Speaker 1>up his own table. Now this is a Malar branded

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<v Speaker 1>meet and greet, this is not a Doc Mike meet

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<v Speaker 1>and greet. So he shows up there, He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>table in the back. He puts a stack of T

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<v Speaker 1>shirts out with his face on it, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>starts signing autographs and giving medical advice to people that

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<v Speaker 1>were there to eat chicken fingers. And it's like, bugs, Bunny,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Doc?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Doc Mike made himself the headliner at someone

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<v Speaker 1>else's party. Who does that, Doc Mike, That's who does that.

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Mike's the one that does that. Now, later outside

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<v Speaker 1>the the event had ended. I was preparing to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>The event had come to a close, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with Kansas City. I don't know where the good

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<v Speaker 1>part in the bad part are. I can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tell when you drive around. This looks better. This is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the good part. That doesn't look so good. That

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<v Speaker 1>must be the hard scrabble streets, but you don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>And the restaurant, which was not the landing, It was

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant before the landing, which is we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to give them a plug because they don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>food anymore, the ben Maler chicken fingers. So go out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nighttime and it was another nice, warm Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City night, one hundred degrees with seven hundred degree humidity,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred percent whatever humidity. So I go out the

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<v Speaker 1>dark street at night, getting ready to leave, and Doc says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to show you something. Okay, So I am

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife, my then girlfriend, she is with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dox says, give me a sack. He then goes

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<v Speaker 1>into his glove box, and in the glove box he

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<v Speaker 1>grabs something I didn't know what. I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. He then walks back out again the street

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<v Speaker 1>starked as a little bit of a street lamp kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gleaning on the face of Doc Mike. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he opened his right eye a little bit and it

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<v Speaker 1>had this like sparkle, and he puts his other hand

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<v Speaker 1>in the air and he's got a screwdriver. He's holding

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<v Speaker 1>up a screwdriver. And in that moment, I thought, this

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<v Speaker 1>is it. I'm going to be murdered by my most

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated listener. But no, it turns out that Doc Mike

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to give me the license plate literally off

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<v Speaker 1>of his car, literally off of his car, a souvenir

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Mike license plate, and he did. He just took

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<v Speaker 1>it off the car and said, here you go. And

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<v Speaker 1>he had some trouble futzing around trying to get the

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<v Speaker 1>license plate off the car, and then he autographed he

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<v Speaker 1>signed it. I still have it, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have that item. There's a couple of license

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<v Speaker 1>plates I have. I have the one from Doc Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a gentleman from Florida who I've been

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<v Speaker 1>asked not to name because he's a lifetime member of

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<v Speaker 1>the country club in Florida. And this guy, big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ben Maler Show, used to listen all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard from much anymore anymore because it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to contact people when you're in prison. Costs a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money to send those letters. Anyway, back then, it

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<v Speaker 1>did anyone. I don't know it's like now. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was deputized. That's probably not the right word. But his

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<v Speaker 1>job in prison was to make license plates, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he made a Florida license plate with my name on it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that part is one thing. The next part is you're

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to do that. How do you get it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the prison. I still don't know how he

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<v Speaker 1>got it out of the prison, but I did receive

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<v Speaker 1>it in the mail. So I have a Doc Mike

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<v Speaker 1>license plate and a my name license plate. It's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Florida plate and it's as amateur radio on it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really a tribute to my dad as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Big Ham radio operator. So you don't forget stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like this. You just don't back to the Doc Mike

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<v Speaker 1>angle to it. So let's flash way back, way way

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<v Speaker 1>back during the pandemic. So Doc Mike somehow became the

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<v Speaker 1>producer of the Ben mathershw No, we really don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a producer on the overnight show. He's going to produced

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<v Speaker 1>the show and do the show and all that. So

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Mike somehow became the producer. Now, this is another

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<v Speaker 1>one of those stories. I'm not sure how it all

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<v Speaker 1>went down. It was a bit of a foggy situation.

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<v Speaker 1>One minute, I'm on the radio talking about Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole situation with Brady, and at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>he was leaving the Patriots, He's going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay, and there was all these stories about Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>And the next thing, I've got Doc Mike lining up guests. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>not athletes, not coaches. Doc Mike ended up lining up doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>like real or at least those that believe they're real.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So he put these people on and during the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't really have many rules. We just had to

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<v Speaker 1>fill the airtime. And the bosses were like, listen, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no sports going on. We hired you to do sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Just talk about whatever you want to talk about. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, Doc's going to book a guest.

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<v Speaker 1>No one else's booking guests for me. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a producer, so let's let's do it. And so he

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<v Speaker 1>puts these doctors on to do urine therapy on national radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Urine therapy. One even got so worked up and do

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<v Speaker 1>a tizzy that they cursed on the air. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>should have been furious. I should have been very upset.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very bad thing to do. You're not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to curse on the air. Instead, I laughed, because when

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<v Speaker 1>you let Doc Mike drive the bus, when you put

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<v Speaker 1>him in the driver's seat and you let him drive

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<v Speaker 1>the bus, you do not complain. Do not complain when

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<v Speaker 1>it crashes. Don't do that. You just and you hope

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<v Speaker 1>the fire isn't too big when the bus crashes, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's going to crash. And then there was

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<v Speaker 1>the wedding. Now some of you attended this, if you

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Mallard meet and greet in the Great

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<v Speaker 1>State of Minnesota, a fake wedding at the Iconic Mermaid

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<v Speaker 1>where Hollering James was there and a bunch of other

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<v Speaker 1>big stars there from the Great State of Minnesota. They

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<v Speaker 1>were all hanging out and also other states around there.

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<v Speaker 1>So Doc Mike and Regina, also known as spin Cycle Regina,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a wedding. It wasn't real, of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was, if you'll excuse me, the most real fake

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever been a part of, Doc Mike saying

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<v Speaker 1>I do in front of radio listeners. I was dragged

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<v Speaker 1>into that. It was funny, it was bizarre, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really was perfect in many ways for that of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was perfect for that event. You could tell part

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<v Speaker 1>of Doc Mike believed that he was actually getting married,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it was all theater. He played along, good acting.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing about Doc Mike, and I'll sum

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<v Speaker 1>it up like this, he shouldn't matter. Doc Mike should

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<v Speaker 1>not matter in the context of a talk radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just one guy calling in to the overnight a

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<v Speaker 1>sports talk radio show. And yet some of the funniest,

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<v Speaker 1>most memorable, most bizarre things in the history of the

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<v Speaker 1>show have happened because of Doc Mike. He's chaos, he's theater.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the best and worst of what makes sports radio

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<v Speaker 1>so addictive and the passion of sports radio. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Mike, he has called the show again, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was wonderful to hear from him, because Doc Mike

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<v Speaker 1>is a reminder, at least for me and maybe for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a reminder to me. Doc Mike is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of why we do what we do in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place. And it's not just about the sports.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the people around the sports, the goat heads,

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<v Speaker 1>the screw drivers, the fake weddings that never happen. So

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Mike is back, and I say, at least for

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<v Speaker 1>the Ben Mallor Show, and I would say for a larger,

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<v Speaker 1>larger group of sports radio that means the world's just

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<v Speaker 1>a little more interesting again, at least when he chooses

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<v Speaker 1>to call in, he say he's going to call in

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<v Speaker 1>more often. We'll see if that actually happens. I have

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<v Speaker 1>my doubts, but he said he's gonna call in more often,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. Now, I did want to rant about

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<v Speaker 1>something else, and there's a need to filibuster for me.

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<v Speaker 1>For me now, I mentioned this in the previous episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the radio show. I would like to now mention

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<v Speaker 1>it again. I want to expand on what has become

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<v Speaker 1>a pet peeve of mine. And there are people in

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<v Speaker 1>this world that collect baseball cards. There are some people

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<v Speaker 1>that collect snaps stamps, there's some people that collect Disney stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever your jam is, I don't know what you collect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my business unless you want to make it

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<v Speaker 1>my business. So what we're all collecting though, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not realizing it, Well, I'm realizing it. I've had the

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<v Speaker 1>point of epiphanation where having an epiphany. But we're all,

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<v Speaker 1>all of us are collecting illusions. The greatest hustle of

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<v Speaker 1>the modern age is not Bernie made Off, It's not Enron,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the Larry David endorsed crypto that went under. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the curated, digitalized, algorithm driven social media mirage that

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<v Speaker 1>we are living in a fund zone at the count

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<v Speaker 1>of all, a fun zone of mirrors, and it rubs

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<v Speaker 1>me the wrong way it does. And so the inside

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<v Speaker 1>skinning on this, a lot of us know it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really slick trick, and yet we still clap like seals

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<v Speaker 1>at a show when the magician pulls the rabbit out

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Social media is the wile wild West. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no sheriff, just tumbleweeds, tumbleweeds of bots, rolling, rolling,

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<v Speaker 1>rolling across the digital wasteland that is your feet whatever

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<v Speaker 1>your algorithm happens to be. However, here's the con. The

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<v Speaker 1>con is there are major companies, billion dollar, multi billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar companies who I believe are run by really smart people,

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<v Speaker 1>really really smart people who are very sharp in business

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<v Speaker 1>and know exactly what they're doing. And yet these really

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<v Speaker 1>really smart people, the top one percent of one percent,

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<v Speaker 1>those people are falling for it. They get dragged in.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at these numbers. Millions of followers, billions of views,

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<v Speaker 1>except spoiler alert, spoiler alert, the followers are fake. The

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<v Speaker 1>views are inflated, the downloads bought in bulk like you

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<v Speaker 1>would buy tubs of mayonnaise at Costco or discount toothpaste.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're told that that artist is blowing up, this

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<v Speaker 1>influencer is a star, and this show is a smash

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<v Speaker 1>hit except when, and it always happens, when the curtain lifts.

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<v Speaker 1>The tickets aren't selling, the arenas are mostly empty, the

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<v Speaker 1>ratings look like they're a minor league team on a

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday in Toledo. It is a Potempkin village, is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's a facade built out of bots, fake likes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the illusion of relevance. And it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people that have been going around

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<v Speaker 1>trying to sell music or sell their takes on certain

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<v Speaker 1>shows that the fans with just an algorithm in Uzbekistan

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<v Speaker 1>some clicking refresh and there's some new followers and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And you see, the matrix is a rigged game.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a rigged game. Red pill, blue pill, guess

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 1>what same destination destination fraud, capital f fraud. And now

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<v Speaker 1>entering the chat, half man lizard person Adam Silver, who's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be supposed to be the grown up in

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<v Speaker 1>the room, supposed to be the grown up in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets on his soapbox this week. Now, I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this on the radio show, but I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>expand on this because it really ties into what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about. And this is my train of thought, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the conductor true on my own train of thought.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've just explained to you how I think this

0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.280
<v Speaker 1>great hustle is going on. And it's a Potempkin village.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all just an illusion, and it's like a movie set.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like being over at the Universal Lot and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got the downtown New York scene and that whole deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that. So Adam Silver, who's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of those grown ups in the room. Adam Silver,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets on his soapbox or his spaceship is flying

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<v Speaker 1>saucer the other day and he says the NBA is

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<v Speaker 1>a highlight sport. He said it. He was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>people not wanting to money for the various streaming services,

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<v Speaker 1>and Adam Silber, without missing the beat, says, well, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>just watch the highlights. Don't bother watching the games. Just

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<v Speaker 1>snack on twelve second dunks and three point shots that

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<v Speaker 1>are about eight seconds on TikTok, and you're good, which

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>is the equivalent if if you were the CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth Chris Steakhouse said, I know you can't afford our steak.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't afford our delicious mashed potatoes or the mac

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<v Speaker 1>and cheese. You can't afford anything because you're poor. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do for you is you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>the steak, you don't need the mashed potatoes, you do

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<v Speaker 1>not need the mac and cheese. Just lick the plate.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all you need, right, you don't need the steak.

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<v Speaker 1>Just lick the plate. That's what it's all about. So

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA business model. The NBA makes the lion's share

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<v Speaker 1>of their money off television when no one's watching television anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That may, it may not be true, but television is

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<v Speaker 1>what pays the bills, the real money. Social media, for

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<v Speaker 1>all of the glitter and all the metrics and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>is a cotton candy economy. It's sweet, fluffy and evaporates

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<v Speaker 1>the second it touches your tongue e. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing about is, once you've seen how the trick is done,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is with all magic, but this is a

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>bit of a magic trick. Once you've seen how the

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>trick is done, you no longer say abercadabor, hocus pocus.

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<v Speaker 1>You learn how the magician slides the box, how the

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<v Speaker 1>saw never actually touches the lady who's getting cut in half.

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<v Speaker 1>You see all that. You notice the bots, You notice

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<v Speaker 1>the inflated viral accounts that you've never heard of. You

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<v Speaker 1>notice the emperor has no clothes, just a lot of retreats,

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:56.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, what's up with that? Now? Back in

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the old days, you're an old head. Back in the

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<v Speaker 1>old days, we called this what it is. We called

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<v Speaker 1>it fraud. We called it fraud. Now, a synonym for

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>fraud is engagement. So we've dressed up the con with

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<v Speaker 1>a fancier language, slapped a blue check mark on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and said there you go, sold it as is its progress.

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<v Speaker 1>Now everyone is making money on this outside of one

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<v Speaker 1>group of people. And it's one of the reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>this has gone unchecked. That the creators buy followers and views,

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<v Speaker 1>they inflate their value. It's not real. The people selling

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<v Speaker 1>advertising on the creators' platforms, the social networks all they're

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<v Speaker 1>all gung ho on that, right. So you got the

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<v Speaker 1>influencer who's buying followers, So the people that sell followers

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<v Speaker 1>are making money, they're growing their audience. Then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the other social media companies who are benefiting because the

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<v Speaker 1>perception is that you have a lot of followers, more

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<v Speaker 1>people who are real will actually follow you in so

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<v Speaker 1>they're making money on that. The only people who are

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<v Speaker 1>getting panted and this exercise are the hair brained advertisers

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<v Speaker 1>who don't realize they're being hustled, scam bamboozled, hoodwinked and

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>led astray all of those things. Then all realize it

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<v Speaker 1>and so yes, this is a I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna use work conspiracy anymore. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a straight con. The house always wins. The magician doesn't

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>saw the lady in half, the bots don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>your product, and the NBA doesn't want you to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the game. It just wants you to double tap a

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<v Speaker 1>dunk and make sure you give it a like. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all they want. It's an old movie, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>great movie, and they should remake it called The Truman Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now maybe that's before your time, But The Truman Show.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd is fake, The applause a canned. The illusion

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>is about as airtight as you can get until until

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>someone sails their boat into the edge of the set

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<v Speaker 1>and finds an exit door. Then it becomes a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's smoke, it's mirrors, and it's a magic trick

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<v Speaker 1>that we all agree, not me anymore, but we all

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>agree to pretend is real. And every once in a

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>while there'll be a team that will have an influencer

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<v Speaker 1>throw out the first pitch at a baseball game, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty funny. Most of the time, nobody knows who

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<v Speaker 1>these people are. It's kind of like YouTube. During that

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs Chargers game, they mixed in some YouTube influencers who

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<v Speaker 1>have a big following on YouTube, and the millions of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are watching the NFL game had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>who these people are because they're really not that famous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like being famous in a silo. Well, you're really

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<v Speaker 1>well known in the silo. Outside the silo, nobody really

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<v Speaker 1>knows your that's the problem. And that's the problem. The

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<v Speaker 1>silo is not nearly as big as you think the

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<v Speaker 1>silo is. That's the other problem. So it's the modern

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<v Speaker 1>world's greatest hustle and the mark is us. It's you

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<v Speaker 1>and me. We'll get out on that. We will have

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<v Speaker 1>a new podcast on Saturday, that would be tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 1>then again on Sunday, NFL Sunday. Don't forget to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Benny Versus the Penny Benny versus the Penny on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>Benny Vspenny, that's Benny Vspenny on YouTube. Check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>As we have a brand new slate of games up today,

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<v Speaker 1>just went up last night. You can watch all the

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<v Speaker 1>picks on the key primetime games, including the game in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, Philadelphia and KC and all the way through

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<v Speaker 1>the double header action on Monday night. Got you covered

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<v Speaker 1>on all of it, and we'll catch you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great Friday. Danny g should join me tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll catch you then. Got a murder.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta go.