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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, I'm so excited to welcome you to the

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Speaker 2: inaugural broadcast of my first podcast. It's so exciting and

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Speaker 2: gonna have a wonderful time from week to week, sharing thoughtful,

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Speaker 2: provocative subjects that are stirring the mind, renewing the spirit,

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Speaker 2: and challenging your next chapter. As we all walk into

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Speaker 2: new doors and new places, what better way to start

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Speaker 2: off than to start out with the one and only

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Speaker 2: Miss Oprah Wintree. Today, we sit down with one of

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Speaker 2: the most influential voices of our time. From her humble

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Speaker 2: Oprah Wintree has lived a life chain by vision, resilience,

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Speaker 2: younger Oprah. So it's not online. This is more than

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Speaker 2: a story about success. It's about faith, courage, and the

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Speaker 2: choices that change everything. Chapter one, Building Empire. I have

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Speaker 2: been thinking where it gets started. I have so many

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Speaker 2: to pick, but I'll start with this. When she was

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Speaker 2: And she was shocked when she saw me. She said,

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Speaker 1: That's because I love you, you know I do. I love you,

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Speaker 1: That's why I said yes, And I said, and then

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Speaker 2: She did. She paid her own way to come here. Hey,

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Speaker 2: happily paid it to have an opportunity to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I thought about most of

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Speaker 2: You know, you know when you when you when you

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Speaker 1: Am I right, absolutely, And so I think that's such

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Speaker 2: You want people who contribute to the growth and the

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Speaker 1: daughter had a life and she was loved. And that

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Speaker 1: was my first emmy. That was my first Emmy. Because

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Speaker 1: we were both aligned in intention. And I will tell you,

436
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: whatever project, whatever opportunity comes your way, being clear about

437
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: what it is you actually really want to achieve, and

438
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: having everybody else in the room in alignment with that

439
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: vision and how to execute that vision so that every

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Speaker 1: body is in synergetic vibration to make it, to bring

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Speaker 1: it into fruition and manifestation.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, I'm glad you said that. So

443
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Speaker 2: many good things came out of that. And how you

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Speaker 2: make decisions and how that process is. I think a

445
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: lot of businesses fail because we don't know how to

446
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Speaker 2: make good decisions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, And if.

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Speaker 2: We don't make good decisions, we can't have good outcomes. Uh,

449
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Speaker 2: and one of us.

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Speaker 1: Every decision has an outcome.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And so you have to be responsible for the choices

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Speaker 1: that you make, y period. That's in your life, your

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Speaker 1: personal life, especially so if you with somebody and it

455
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Speaker 1: ain't working out, you made the choice, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, it's that. But but but the thing that has

457
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Speaker 2: always amazed me about you, it's not your yes, it's

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Speaker 2: it's your nose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you have you have.

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Speaker 2: The ability to know perfect timing to walk away. And

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Speaker 2: I see very few people because we get in the

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Speaker 2: habit of it and we love it, or our ego

463
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Speaker 2: is attached to it, or our identity is attached to it,

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Speaker 2: or we think that if I'm not this, who will

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Speaker 2: I be? But you are not afraid to walk away

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Speaker 2: and start over again. And I want to talk about

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Speaker 2: not just the courage to start, but the courage to stop.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Thank you, that's that's that's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful question. I've never been asked that question before. I

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Speaker 1: could feel it, just just just like I was spirit

471
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Speaker 1: led into that show. That show was God's idea for me.

472
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Speaker 1: Because the question to ask is not to tell God

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Speaker 1: what you want. The question is to ask God, what

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Speaker 1: do you want for me? Because God has a dream

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Speaker 1: for you. And I will have to tell you I

476
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Speaker 1: have lived and continue to live God's dream for me.

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Speaker 1: That's why you can't touch it. It cannot be touched.

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Speaker 1: It cannot be touched. All the haters can hate on,

479
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Speaker 1: they can say whatever you want to say, they can

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Speaker 1: do you want to they it cannot be touched. When

481
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Speaker 1: you live God's dream for you? What is God's dream

482
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Speaker 1: for you? Can you step into what God's dream is

483
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Speaker 1: for you instead of you trying to figure out what

484
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Speaker 1: the dream is and what to do and where to

485
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Speaker 1: go and the next thing. He has a dream for you.

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Speaker 1: That's why i'm you know, the bishop. I was just

487
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Speaker 1: talking to me yesterday because I think it's wonderful that

488
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Speaker 1: he's handing over the you know, authority of the pastoral duties.

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Speaker 1: And I said, this cannot mean that you're not preaching anymore,

490
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Speaker 1: because that is your gift, that is God's dream for you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, something happens to you when you're in the

492
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Speaker 1: spirit and doing that right. Something happens you are You

493
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Speaker 1: aren't transformed, you transcend a human thing. You are transformed.

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Speaker 1: You are able to interpret scripture and allow us to

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Speaker 1: see and feel it. Let me tell y'all, I was

496
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Speaker 1: going through a thing because I didn't listen to God.

497
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Speaker 1: I was listening to myself. I was trying to not offend.

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Speaker 1: I made a business decision that I shouldn't have made

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Speaker 1: at the time when I left the show. What I

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Speaker 1: should have done is what I know is the truth.

501
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: I should have gotten still so much so that I

502
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Speaker 1: would wake up in the middle of the night and

503
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Speaker 1: the Bible verse that was running through my head was

504
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Speaker 1: they that wait on the Lord shall renew their strength.

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Speaker 1: But I had all these contracts for, you know, starting

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Speaker 1: a new network, and I was like, oh, but they're there,

507
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: and they said and but God. And I was trying

508
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Speaker 1: to convince God that it was the right thing to do.

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Speaker 1: And that's why a year later, every single headline was

510
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Speaker 1: OPRAH and the struggling Own Network because it was It

511
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Speaker 1: was not a decision that came out of the spirit.

512
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Speaker 1: Was not And it was a mistake for me at

513
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Speaker 1: the time because I didn't listen to the voice inside myself.

514
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Speaker 1: I was like, well, everybody says, you got to leverage

515
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: this moment, You got to leverage this moment. And I

516
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Speaker 1: have to tell you, I was. I was. I was

517
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Speaker 1: as close to being depressed as as one can be

518
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Speaker 1: and still moving through the world. And I came down

519
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Speaker 1: to the Potter's house. I came down to the pot

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Speaker 1: house and the bishop was preaching a sermon called saving

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Speaker 1: the Scraps. Now, I yes, and I listen, we all

522
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Speaker 1: church people, we have heard the story of them loaves

523
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Speaker 1: and fishes our whole lives. The bishop took those loaves

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Speaker 1: and fishes and talked about what happens after the loaves

525
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Speaker 1: and fishes and saving the scraps, and they put all

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Speaker 1: the scraps on the boat, and then when the winds

527
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Speaker 1: and the waves came, they forgot all about what had

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Speaker 1: happened earlier in the day. That sermon saving the scraps

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Speaker 1: turned me around and allowed me to remember all the

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Speaker 1: times that God had showed up for me. So I left.

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Speaker 1: I left the Potter's house and prayed that prayer underneath

532
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Speaker 1: my oaks and the all right, God, I've been trying

533
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: to do it myself. You tell me what you want

534
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Speaker 1: me to do. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you. It's it's an amazing thing

536
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Speaker 2: to get to a know when you are an aggressive person. Yes,

537
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: you have to be an aggressive person in order to

538
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Speaker 2: be successful, but you cannot be so aggressive that you

539
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: damage yourself with your own aggression and become your own

540
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Speaker 2: worst enemy. So I was anxious to hear what you

541
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Speaker 2: had to say about that. By the way, it might

542
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: not have been what God dreamed for you, but you

543
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: still landed on your feet pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I did, okay, I did okay with you.

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Speaker 2: Did okay okay. So so talk to me a minute

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Speaker 2: about turning mistakes into miracles. Because you said clearly I

547
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: made a mistake, and there's not a person, there's not

548
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur that didn't and buy the wrong building, moved

549
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: to the wrong neighborhood, buy the wrong product, trust the

550
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: wrong person, get the wrong supplier, get the wrong delivery.

551
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: And you made a mistake. But you made a mistake

552
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Speaker 2: and turned it into a miracle by timing it out

553
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Speaker 2: in such a way. I guess you never told me this.

554
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Speaker 2: I'm just standing on the outside looking in the window

555
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Speaker 2: with my nose up against the window pane, you know,

556
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Speaker 2: And so they're the big noseprint on the center of

557
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: your living from Winda because all of a sudden you

558
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: took this mess and turned it into a miracle and

559
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: worked your way out of it. And what I'm trying

560
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Speaker 2: to do is get in your head, because until we

561
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Speaker 2: learned to think a certain way, we would throw our

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Speaker 2: hands up in a mess and go make it a

563
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Speaker 2: bigger mess.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I realized is I started out with this

565
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Speaker 1: idea that I was going to have it as a

566
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Speaker 1: spiritual inspirational channel based on sheating the soul, and that

567
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: audience was not coming. So what I was able to

568
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: do in making the shift is what a lot of

569
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Speaker 1: people do in relationships and also businesses. You have this

570
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: idea that you want or you want this person to be,

571
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: and you're trying to force that thing instead of looking

572
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: at what do you really have? What is the audience

573
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Speaker 1: that followed you to this channel, and how do you

574
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Speaker 1: now take that base and use that base and offer

575
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Speaker 1: that audience what they are looking for. That is what

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Speaker 1: I did. I had an idea of what it should be.

577
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Speaker 1: Then it showed me what it wanted to be and

578
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: what it could be, and so I shifted and moved

579
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Speaker 1: in the direction of what was possible instead of pushing

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Speaker 1: against the resistance of what I thought should be possible.

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Speaker 1: That is what changed.

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Speaker 2: Chapter four Money. You don't run around with a lot

583
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Speaker 2: of people.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't you know, you don't see you in a

586
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Speaker 2: big crowd of people and a bunch of girlfriends down

587
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: at them all and doing doing all of that to

588
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Speaker 2: talk to me about the social life that accommodates success,

589
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: Because a lot of people will say they want success,

590
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Speaker 2: and then when they start to get success, the disappointment

591
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Speaker 2: from family, from friends, from coworkers, from neighborhoods drives them off.

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Speaker 1: Can I get witness you kind of get a witness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how have you learned to make yourself happy reading

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Speaker 2: a book?

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I grew up reading Bible stories.

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00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: You remember, they were selling those blue Bible stories just

597
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: look like encyclopedia. So I grew up with my grandmother alone.

598
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: So being alone is a comforting thing to me. But

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Speaker 1: I also learned that who you associate with, especially when

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Speaker 1: you're on the rise and people are trying to use

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Speaker 1: you and take advantage of you, and you can feel that,

602
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: you can feel when that is happening. You can feel

603
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Speaker 1: when that is happening. You can feel when that is happening,

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00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: that the ability to distance yourself from that. I've actually

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Speaker 1: done what I call the negro exit fee.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it have a negro exit fee where you

608
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: have just come and you want to because I don't

609
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Speaker 1: believe in loaning people money because I know that when

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Speaker 1: I loan it to you, you're not gonna pay it

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00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: back to me. You ain't never gonna pay it back

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00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: to me because when it comes time to pay it back,

613
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna be cause she don't need it. So I have,

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Speaker 1: I have, I have given money to people that I

615
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Speaker 1: wanted out of my.

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Speaker 3: Life, just so I could say when you come back,

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Speaker 3: I'm done.

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Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. Now here's the thing, And you know,

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Speaker 1: I have this wonderful school in South Africa where I've

620
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Speaker 1: put eight hundred and thirty girls have graduated from the school,

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Speaker 1: six hundred ninety girls have six ninety have graduated from college,

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Speaker 1: and I currently have one hundred and ninety five in

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Speaker 1: college still. And all of those girls come from challenged

624
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: backgrounds because you can't you're not allowed in the school

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Speaker 1: if your parents make more than ten thousand dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: and most of the girls, on average, their parents make

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Speaker 1: no more than three thousand dollars a year. So they

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Speaker 1: come from really challenged, traumatic backgrounds, but are brilliant girls

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Speaker 1: and have gone on to do I just had a

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Speaker 1: survey done last year of where all those girls. That's

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Speaker 1: why I know there's eight ninety five still in college.

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Speaker 1: And what we have been able to do in South

633
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Speaker 1: Africa is interrupt poverty. Is what this study showed us.

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Speaker 1: We have interrupted the cycle of poverty with these classes

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Speaker 1: of girls who have gone on to become doctors and

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Speaker 1: lawyers and investors and clinicians and stem girls and you

637
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Speaker 1: know every facet of the work environment. These girls are

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Speaker 1: now in and have gone back into their communities and

639
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: have changed what is happening in their family's lives, so

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Speaker 1: that that is really the blessing that God has been

641
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: able to allow me to bestow upon so many other

642
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: African women. But this is what I tell them, because

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Speaker 1: you are the first in your family, everybody's going to

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Speaker 1: think you were bank and anybody here, anybody here, know

645
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about it, and it is up to you.

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00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: It is up to you to help them to know

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Speaker 1: the truth about how it works. And you do not

648
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: serve them when you continue to take care of people

649
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: who refuse to take care of themselves. So this is

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Speaker 1: what I had to learn. I had to learn that

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Speaker 1: it was my decision. And I was so troubled by

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00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: this in the beginning because I you know, what I

653
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: made was in the paper, so I couldn't I could

654
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: no longer say I don't have the money, because people say,

655
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: I know you got it because I read about that.

656
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: In my house. I need a new porch and I

657
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: need a new car, and I needed this, and so

658
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean there was a time back in I think

659
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: I used to pray on this all the time, of

660
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Lord help me. How do I do this? How do

661
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: I do it? And this is what I've learned. I've

662
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: bought houses and cars and homes for people who lost them.

663
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: I've bought I've put so many people through school. I've

664
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: given so much money, And this is what I learned.

665
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: In the end. You should never This is the best

666
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: advice you're gonna get on this. You should never give

667
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: anybody any more money than they've already earned. That's good

668
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: and the reason why you should never give them any

669
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: more money because when somebody asks you for fu So

670
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 1: in the beginning, my family always needed five hundred dollars.

671
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: When I was in Baltimore. The day I moved to Chicago,

672
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: everybody needed five thousand. The day it was announced I

673
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: was syndicated, everybody then needed fifty thousand. Nothing, nothing worked

674
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: unless they have fifty thousand dollars. And so this is

675
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: what is the professor of economics told me that when

676
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: you give people more money than they've ever been able

677
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: to earn, they have no idea of what that is,

678
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: and so you are really doing them a disservice. You

679
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: are doing them a disservice and enabling them. And so

680
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: once I recognize, first of all, I used to pray,

681
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: what do I owe? What do I owe? What should

682
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: I give? What do I know? And I recognize that

683
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: you get to decide. Just because they're asking for an

684
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: amount doesn't mean you have to do it. So I decided.

685
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: I brought all my family together one night that was

686
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: in the reunion, and I said, here's what I'm going

687
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: to do. Here's what I'm going to do for you

688
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: and you and you and you and you, and this

689
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: is my decision, and this is how much everybody's going

690
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: to get. And you're gonna get this, and you're gonna

691
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: get this. And I will tell you it didn't work.

692
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: It didn't work because within a short period of time,

693
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: this is before I knew that rule, but within a

694
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: short period of time, everybody had wasted the money and

695
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: lost the houses and all the things. So I think

696
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: that that is one of the hardest things to overcome

697
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: when you have been the one in your family. So

698
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: I leave you with you get to decide, and you

699
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: get to decide how much, how often, where to give it,

700
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: and how to give it, and it should be thought

701
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: full in such a way that it doesn't enable people

702
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: not to take care of themselves, because ultimately, that's what

703
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: you're trying to do. You're trying to lift up, lift up,

704
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: and let them raise and meet the rising of their

705
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: own lives.

706
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: Amazing advice. Thank you for that. I think that that

707
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: is a big hand clap. Yeah, a really big hand clap.

708
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: Chapter five, Artificial Intelligence. Listen, our voices are too big

709
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 2: and too loud and too strong not to at least

710
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: touch on this. I believe in artificial intelligence. I'm living

711
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: today in part because of AI. I had a massive

712
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: heart attack that went in through my They went in

713
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: through my artery, in my arm and cleared out my

714
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: heart while I was awake because of AI. So I'm

715
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 2: not against AI and what it has done for medicine

716
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: and what it has done for the speed of technology

717
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: and efficiency and solving problems and finding cures. However, I

718
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: am concerned that a lot of our people are not

719
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: prepared for the jobs that AI is going to create,

720
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: and they're going to lose their jobs the time that

721
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 2: the tariffs are going to raise the prices on goods

722
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: and services. I am concerned that inflation is squeezing us

723
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: like a vice between two parameters, and we are not

724
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: really fully conscious that we are being squeezed, and nor

725
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: do we have a strategy. And there are strategies, you know,

726
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: every doctor needs a plumber. There are strategies that would

727
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: avert this and make this work. Well, what do you

728
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: say to us at this time and history? We've seen

729
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: it before, We've seen it lots of times before, and

730
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: we've overcome them. But each time you can't use an

731
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: old method against a new devil. What do you think

732
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: we should be doing or telling our children, or exposing

733
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: our e in order to maintain a relevancy. I came

734
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: out of the industrial age, the whole plants and everything

735
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: shut down. We lost, everything, went down to absolutely nothing.

736
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: I know what it is to have my car repossessed.

737
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: I know what it is to not be able to

738
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: buy diapers from my children. I know what it is

739
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: to have a very very very hard time, and I

740
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: know it takes a lot of grit and stamina to

741
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: rise above it. What kind of grit do you think

742
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: we need in this hour to prepare us to either

743
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 2: take on courses, take on classes, or raise our voices.

744
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: And when we raise our voices, what should we be saying.

745
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think raising your voice in this moment

746
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: about AI is going to do one dog gun thing.

747
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't because I think it's here. I think AI

748
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: is is going to be as prevalent as you know,

749
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: the automobiles, and so what you don't want to be

750
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: is one of those people saying I'm an hold onto

751
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: my horse. I'm keeping my horse, you know, because it's

752
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: not just is it coming, it is here. It is

753
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: already here. And I think the most we can do

754
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: is to educate ourselves about it. And the thing about

755
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: the thing about educating, because I did a whole special

756
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: on it, is that every three to four months the

757
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: education is different than it was three months ago because

758
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: it is advancing so rapidly. So I think finding a

759
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: way to adjust and live with it and be open

760
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: to the possibility of not of using it. And I

761
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: do think that using it medically is where we're going

762
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: to see the greatest benefits. We've already so we say God,

763
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: thank you and bless AI for helping to save you. Yes,

764
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: So I think the greatest advances are going to be

765
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: in the medical field. Amen to that, Amen to that,

766
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: Amen to that. Stand up for yourself. Amen, to that AI.

767
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: So I think the greatest advances are going to be

768
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: for that, and I think other advances are going to

769
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: be in terms of education. I think the ability to

770
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: have each child, particularly kids who are slow learners, or

771
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: are dyslexic, or have learning disabilities. I think having a

772
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: system of AI that coordinates a curriculum specific to your

773
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: child is going to change the way children learn in

774
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: the future. And I think that our eyes have not

775
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: seen or ears have heard the possibilities that are going

776
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: to that we're all going to be allowed to benefit from.

777
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I just was speaking to someone

778
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: yesterday who who's a member of my staff, who had

779
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: to put her nineteen year old son in an institution

780
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: because he's so addicted to gaming and the telephone and

781
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: cannot function in a world without it. So I think

782
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: that what social media and what technology is doing with

783
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: abandon to parents who are not able to maintain some

784
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: kind of discipline in control with her kids is also very, very,

785
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: very dangerous. I think that these are real defining times

786
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: for us, and I, you know, I firmly believe that

787
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: in times like these, it is necessary, it is essential,

788
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: it is vital to get as close to God as

789
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: you can. I think that the.

790
00:50:51,840 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: Spiritual root, the spiritual root defines and upholds itself for

791
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 3: all things.

792
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: And so you know, as I look out into the

793
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: world and all the things that are happening, it is

794
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: encouraged me to be more diligent with my spiritual practice,

795
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: is what it is doing for me.

796
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: I think that's very, very, very important when you think

797
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: about I'm reading a book Anxious Generation.

798
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I've interviewed him three times.

799
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, it's a very very interesting book on what

800
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: technology does to a child.

801
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: Too soon, Yes, and a child's brain. Yes, yes, and

802
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: right now because I just interviewed him. Forty percent of

803
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: two year olds are given an iPad. And the thing

804
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: about giving your child a iPad at such an early age,

805
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: it's your babysitter. But your child's brain doesn't form the

806
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: way it's supposed to form because the syneps in the

807
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: brain does not. So I think that we are in

808
00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: for a while.

809
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: Not only is that you don't know how to have

810
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: interaction with other human beings.

811
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Speaker 1: Well that's the women who just had to institutionalize our son. Yeah,

812
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: dropped out of school, dropped out of sophomore year in college,

813
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: because could not function. So these eighteen nineteen year olds

814
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: coming up who lived through COVID and were on their

815
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: phones on social media the whole time, particularly a lot

816
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: of men who grown up and will not be able

817
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: to be socialized because having access to pornography at such

818
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: an early age has disabled them to even be able

819
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: to socialize and actually have interactions with you know, real women.

820
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: Don't you think that we have to be intentional about

821
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: creating communication amongst ourselves lest we reduce everything down to

822
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: texts and tweets, And we have to be intentional about

823
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: picking up the phone, about calling people, about sitting down

824
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: and having a cup of coffee. And because that's that's

825
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: the one thing that artificial intelligence cannot duplicate, absolutely is

826
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: our human ability to be creative and to have conversation.

827
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,959
Speaker 2: And that was exactly what I was hoping you would

828
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 2: get to and did, is that we have to be

829
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: we cannot afford ourselves to allow ourselves to be pushed

830
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 2: into an island of isolation, because mental health is real.

831
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: We just came through COVID, absolutely, Okay, then we go

832
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: through AI. We were dealing with AI. Then we're dealing

833
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: with the inflation, and now we're dealing with the tariffs,

834
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: We're dealing with the news itself. The news itself is

835
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: a stressor all by itself, and I don't know whether

836
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: we realize it or not. Our customers are stressed, our

837
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: family is stressed, our co workers are stressed. And sometimes

838
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: in order to keep your staff together, you have to

839
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: stop and talk to the people that normally could be

840
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: a contribution to you, to say how are you? Are

841
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: you really okay? Are you okay?

842
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: Are you okay? Here's the thing I've done. I have

843
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: limited my intake of news. So when I say I've

844
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: gone back to and you mentioned that I like book,

845
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: you always think my life is so boring because I

846
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: spend so much time looking inward and being Sometimes Gail

847
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: will call me and say, what are you doing sitting

848
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: with your thoughts? By the way, she was very upset

849
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: that she couldn't come. She told me to first of all,

850
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: for us to get a picture together, and she said,

851
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: tell the bishop, I really wanted to be there for

852
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: some banana pudding. And I said, I'm off of banana

853
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: putting now. But anyway, let me tell you.

854
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what that means. I told Oprah

855
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: when she came to me last time. I was persuading

856
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: her to come. I said, I've already got all the cameras.

857
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: I've already got everything you need. All you gotta do

858
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: is he'll couple your equipment and you can come in.

859
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: You can get a couple of shows out of it.

860
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to negotiate a deal. None of that work.

861
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: You know what word I said, I'll make you a

862
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 2: banana pudding. She said, I'm coming.

863
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm coming for the banana pudding. That's true.

864
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: Now you'd have got all skinny and stuff. I'm gonna

865
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: have to make you a letter's roll or something.

866
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

867
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Speaker 2: I don't know what we're gonna do about it. Are

868
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: you all enjoying this conversation? So when you start talking

869
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: about AI, it is impacting your world through entertainment. The

870
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: way that you used to make a movie, used to

871
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: make shoot a show, used to edit a show, used

872
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 2: to add color to the show, used to us all

873
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: of that has changed.

874
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: Now, that's right.

875
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: How are you handling that? And how should the people

876
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: out here who also whether they want to admit it

877
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 2: or not, AI is changing the way you do business,

878
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: or you're paying more money to ride your horse rather

879
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: than to get in the automobile, because you just say,

880
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 2: if I ignore it long enough and stick my head

881
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 2: into sand, it's going to go away. But machines don't

882
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 2: get sick, machines don't get pregnant, Machines don't take off

883
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: from work, machines don't take vacation. Machines they are here

884
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: to stay. And how are you incorporating that in your

885
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: strategy for business? And since I can't ask all of them,

886
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: I might ask you.

887
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I know to be true, and

888
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: that is that storytelling. You know, in whatever form. One

889
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: of the reasons why you're so great in teaching us

890
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: the gospel is because you always build it around the story,

891
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: and that is why it is so well received, because

892
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: people cant to the story and then the message of

893
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: the story. So what I know is in my business

894
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: and line of work that the ability to share stories

895
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: and to share information through stories that will never change.

896
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: And what is going to be important is for us

897
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: to keep our eyes on the prize because it is

898
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: necessary to have discernment, which is what we're missing. It's

899
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: necessary to have discernment so that you can tell the

900
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: difference between the distortions of AI and that which is

901
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: made up and that which is make believe. You know,

902
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: everybody talks about fake news, but it's up to us

903
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: to understand through our discernment the difference, because it's going

904
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: to be it's going to be difficult, and that's on purpose.

905
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: It's already it's on purpose design that way.

906
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: In our country, you can't believe what you see because

907
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: they've produced, say, at a massive rate, things that it

908
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: sound like you look like you. I've seen things that

909
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: I know you didn't say. How are we going to

910
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: use this amazing gift before somebody uses it against us,

911
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: not just in a salacious way, but in a destructive

912
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: way that could cause us our lives. How do we

913
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: think about marketing? How do we think about doing business overseas?

914
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: How do we think about reaching around the world. Because

915
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: your neighbors are burned out with what you're selling, and

916
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: a lot of times you're a good seed, but you're

917
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: in bad soil. Yeah, and if you take that same

918
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: seed and you put it in good soil where there

919
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: is a real appetite for what you have to offer,

920
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: it's amazing what can happen to you? And it's amazing

921
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: who will support you irregardless of the color of your skin. Black, white, brown,

922
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: America is green, America is great.

923
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: Curious as to how, because I had a wonderful conversation

924
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: last night with Miss Kelly Cornish, who's head of your foundation,

925
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: and also with Michael who's running tdj's enterprises. I'm curious

926
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: as to how you all are incorporating that into incorporating

927
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: AI into the work that you're doing now with good

928
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: Soil and other things.

929
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: See you're gonna interview maybe yeah, And she's good at

930
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: it too.

931
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: You got it.

932
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: You gotta watch this girl if you climb up on

933
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: the stage with her. We are using it for research.

934
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: We are using it to do analysis of what is

935
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: going on in certain states, in certain cities, and what

936
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: are the laws regarding each area that we operating in.

937
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: We are looking at it for projections over the next

938
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: five years of where we're going, incorporating it into our

939
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: plans and our thought process. We are using it for

940
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: technology to do advertisement. We are doing it because I

941
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: can't be in every place at the same time, and

942
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: I can reproduce my voice in such a way that

943
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: I can take my voice and propel it into places

944
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: and languages and languages yeah about all that you should

945
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: no kidding, because you can translate into excuse us we talked,

946
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: so have we forgot y'all for a minute. You can

947
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: translate it into languages that you wouldn't be able to

948
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: speak in and propel your voice much further than you

949
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: could on its own. But the analysis, the analysis I

950
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: keep coming back to, because we start a business because

951
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: we need money. We don't start a business because the

952
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: community needs a service. And eighty percent of people who

953
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: start a business because of their own need go out

954
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: of business. The most success US businesses are built on

955
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: finding the need of the area that you're working in,

956
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: and AI will help you to be able to do that.

957
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I have to say too, just to add to

958
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: that point that whatever your business is, if you shift

959
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: the paradigm to how do I use this in service

960
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: to the people who are coming and wanting your product

961
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: or wanting your service or wanting your information, and it

962
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: is geared. That's what I did with own and also

963
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: what we did with the Oprah Show. We after every

964
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: show would sit down and talk to the audience who

965
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: came and would listen to them, and that became my

966
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: focus group. Every day having conversations with people about where

967
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: they were in their lives and what they were looking

968
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: for and how they needed to be served. So you're

969
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: saying we can now use AI to do that. You

970
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: just feed into who the audience is or who the

971
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: customer is, and AI will help you to better search.

972
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you can do it and save all kinds of

973
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: money in editing, and save all kinds of money in

974
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: producing products, and save all kinds of money in research.

975
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: There are a lot of ways you can do it,

976
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: and you don't need a lot of money to do it.

977
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: You can start out with your telephone. You can start

978
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: out very very small.

979
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: So what AI do you use? Check GBT, what do

980
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 1: you use?

981
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: I want to let me talk to you after this interview.

982
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: We want to know which one you use.

983
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: I think you have to use several because some of

984
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 2: them do graphics, some of them do voiceover, some of

985
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: them do research. I think you have to study the

986
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: family of artificial intelligence to better understand what they can do.

987
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: What I am concerned about is the new forms of

988
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: AI that are coming out who are thinking for themselves.

989
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: And I think that's what we need to be watching

990
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: out for because we may have have created something that

991
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: we can't control. I'm concerned that we don't have laws

992
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: that have caught up with our technology.

993
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,439
Speaker 1: And we don't because everybody was trying to stay ahead

994
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: of China. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. It all comes down

995
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: to the green, as you were.

996
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: Saying, right right, right right, and and any tool, no

997
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: matter how good it is, in the hands of a

998
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: wicked I heard Warren Buffett say something I will never forget.

999
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: You can't do good business with bad people. You just

1000
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: cannot do good business with bad people. We got to

1001
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: wrap this up in a minute, but let me ask you.

1002
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: Is there anything specially you wanted to say before I

1003
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: ask you this?

1004
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: No, I'm just following your leave.

1005
01:03:53,800 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Chapter six Advice to younger self. If you

1006
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: could go back to Mississippi and talk to that little

1007
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: girl out in that front yard, what would you tell her?

1008
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: What would I tell her? I would first and foremost

1009
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: know how loved she is, because I grew up not

1010
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: feeling a lot of love from the people around me.

1011
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: And I would tell her. You know, my grandmother did

1012
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: the best she could, but I had one of those strict,

1013
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: disciplinarian grandmothers, And I say, as Tyler often says, you know,

1014
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: she didn't give me much, but she did give me Jesus.

1015
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: She had the ability to give me Jesus. And so

1016
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: I would say to that girl, and I'd say to

1017
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: anybody here, it's going to be all right. It's going

1018
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: to be all right. And I would say, you know,

1019
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: my favorite song is I Surrender All. And I learned that,

1020
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, when I was trying to get into the

1021
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: color purple and didn't think it was going to happen,

1022
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: and started singing that song, and suddenly the woman appeared

1023
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: and said, Steven Spielberger is on the phone. And so

1024
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: I have lived a surrendered life. And I would say,

1025
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: understanding as I believed. You know, I've said this for

1026
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: many years that you don't get what you want, you

1027
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: actually get what you believe. And so if you're not

1028
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: where you want, you need to look at what you believe.

1029
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: And so because I truly believed when I was told

1030
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: that I was God's child of Mini for many years

1031
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: and people would ask me about it, I would say,

1032
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, Jesus is my brother because I'm God's daughter,

1033
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: and the kids will want to beat me up because

1034
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: he come that preacher girl talk about Jesus again, and

1035
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: so I would tell that little girl to hold on

1036
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: to God's unchanging hand. That's what I would tell him,

1037
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: to hold to God's unchanging hand, you know, because it

1038
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: has been the source of all things for me. And

1039
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: can I tell this story? Can I tell this story?

1040
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: I want to tell this story. Some of you may

1041
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: have heard me tell the story, but this is this

1042
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: is actually how I know how God works. So when

1043
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: I was in Baltimore and I was making started out

1044
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: in Baltimore making twenty two thousand dollars a year. By

1045
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: the time I finished, I was making fifty seven thousand dollars.

1046
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: So I thought that was it. When I went to

1047
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: Chicago and they offered me two hundred and fifty thousand

1048
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: dollars a year, Gail said, that's it. You never have

1049
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: to work again. So I've come up the ranks. I've

1050
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: had every single salary from the time I was sixteen

1051
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: years old and first started working at the radio station.

1052
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: Made one hundred dollars a week, and then I went

1053
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: from one hundred dollars a week, and then I made

1054
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a year, Twelvey fifteen, all the way

1055
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: all the way up the ranks. And when I was

1056
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, there was a woman who was a producer

1057
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: of this show I was doing called People Are Talking

1058
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: and wealthy, wealthy Jewish woman who still remains a friend.

1059
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: Arlene Wiener is her name, and her husband Arnold, very

1060
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: famous attorney in Baltimore. And so I went to visit

1061
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: Arlene at her house and Arlene had they were like

1062
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: three cars in the driveway, and I was like, whoa,

1063
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: there's a Jaguar and there's a Mercedes, and then there

1064
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: was like a stingway for their son. I was like,

1065
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: Arlene is rich. And I walked into Arlene's house and

1066
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: they got all the things, and I remember standing in

1067
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: the kitchen looking out Arlene Wiener's window, and I could

1068
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: see in the front yard these six trees, and I went, oh, rich,

1069
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: people have trees. If IVI get enough money to buy

1070
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: myself a house, I'm gonna have me six trees. And

1071
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: I was at my house in Santa Barbara, a couple

1072
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: of years after I'd moved into the house. I was

1073
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: standing in the kitchen looking out the window and I

1074
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: was standing there waiting on the on the on the

1075
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: tee to brew and I looked out and I saw

1076
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:49,839
Speaker 1: the six trees, and I went, there's the six trees.

1077
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: There's a six trees. I walked out into the front

1078
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: of the yard. Y'all, I wish I had a picture

1079
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: of my front yard. And beyond the six trees were

1080
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: hun and hundreds and hundreds of trees. The bishop can

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Speaker 1: tell you I live with some trees. Yes, I am

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01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: surrounded by trees. And the trees have trees, the trees

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: have little tree babies. And in that moment, I thought, wow,

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: I had the dream for the six but Jesus had

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Speaker 1: a bigger dream for me.

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Speaker 2: Murd you on here.

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01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: You had a bigger dream for me. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You plant the six in your good soil. You plant

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: it in your good soil, You nurture that good soil.

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Speaker 1: You ask God, what do you want me to do

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Speaker 1: with this good soil? And one day you're gonna look

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01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: up and you are standing in a forest.

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Speaker 2: That's fabulous.

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01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: You are standing in a forest. Whatever it is, you

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: give it to him, You offer it in surrender, surrender

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: it all, and it will come back to you a thousandfold.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that is true because I am

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Speaker 1: living God's dream. For me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Dallas, amazing, absolutely incredible. Give it up for

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Speaker 2: Oprah Winfrey. Come on, miss Oprah Winfrey, can I say,

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01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: Can I say one thing what she said about your

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01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: belief system about yourself. It's one of the hardest changes

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01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: to make you will ever make in your life. And

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 2: if you want to start the check one clue that

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01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: I have found that works very well. Watch who you

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01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: hang around. They are a mirror that often reflects what

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: you really think of yourself. And this canceling out of

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01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 2: the idea of imposter syndrome that when you get in

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01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:27,480
Speaker 2: a better situation, you self sabotage yourself out of that situation.

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Speaker 2: Refuse to run and hide. Stay there. If you don't

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01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: have the right clothes, stay there. If you don't have

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01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: the right shoes, stay there. If you don't learn the

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01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: language yet, stay there. If you don't know what to

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: think about yourself, stay there. If they mistreat you, stay there,

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 2: if they don't like you, stay there. If you have

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: to learn a whole new way of talking and talk

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 2: real slow so that you don't go into your old

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01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: dialect and hit that default setting. And over time, over time,

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Speaker 2: nothing is impossible to him that believes it has been

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Speaker 2: my great honor to have the privilege to have in

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Speaker 2: front of this wonderful audience down with my friend, Thank

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01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: you Dallas and my sister, Thank you for coming.

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Speaker 1: I'm so overjoyed to be here, so overjoyed to be here.

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Speaker 1: I have to say that, you know, let's speak a

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01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: minute about this imposter thing, because the first time somebody

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 1: told me in an interview they felt like an impostor,

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01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: I had to go look it up because because I

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Speaker 1: know whose I am. When you know whose you are,

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01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: when you really know whose you are, you know who

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01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: put you in those rooms, you couldn't be there. The

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01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: reason I don't understand it is you couldn't be there

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01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: unless he put you there. Right, you are there because

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: you belong there. You are belong there, and you were

1134
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: there to be shown how your being there changes the

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: space because of the energy that you're bringing into the space.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely right. I've never felt like an impost anywhere, and

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Speaker 1: most places I go, certainly in the earlier years, I

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01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: would I would have to leave and go, Oh, I

1139
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: think was I the only black person in the room.

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01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: Was I the only black person in the room?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: I certainly was the only woman in the room, the

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: only black person in the room. And it never occurred

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01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 1: to me to feel like I didn't belong because I

1145
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: knew that what Maya Angelo says is true. In her

1146
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: poem The Grandmother's she says, I come as one, but baby,

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01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: I stand as ten thousand. You are never in there alone. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: who ever prayed for you, whoever wanted for you, whoever

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01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: hoped for you, you walk into the space with all

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01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: of them, with all of them, and we all have

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01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: been prayed up to this moment.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely again give it up for her, Miss

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Speaker 2: Oprah Winfree.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Alice, Thank you Alice.

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: We love it, We love you.

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm returning to my trees.

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Speaker 2: We hope you enjoyed it.

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: Turning to my trees.

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Speaker 2: You're going back to her trees and her cabbage and

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01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: her books. Thank you, Oprah. Hey, everybody, I want to

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Speaker 2: take this time to thank you for what the next

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Speaker 2: chapter podcasts. If this conversation inspired you, helped you reflect

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 2: on an idea, or spark something new inside of you,

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: make sure to like, comment, and subscribe so you don't

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01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: miss future episodes. Remember, life isn't about how you begin,

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Speaker 2: It's about how you finished. Strong so start your next

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Speaker 2: chapter with us right here every week