1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Hulet's go, Let's go, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Let's go Giants. Get out my Giants. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Moblo, give me some join part of the Giants podcast network. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 3: Let's roll. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: We continue our position series. We'll take a look at 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: tight ends today. The Giants obviously with a big change 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: in the tight end room Darren Waller announcing his retirement. 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: So the Giants have a bunch of young players and 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: veterans that'll have to step up to take his place 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: and make up for a little bit of that production, 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: joining forces to try to play well at that position. 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, Let's lead off with Daniel Bellinger. 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Now we're joined by Giants tight End Daniel Bellinger. Belly, 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: how are you, man? 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 4: I'm doing good man, Good to be here, Good. 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: To talk to you. So, when you had a chance 19 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: to kind of look back on your year last year, 20 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: what were your takeaways from it? 21 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of ups and downs 22 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: like any other season, you know, definitely definitely things we 23 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 4: had to work through, you know, Darren's injury went you know, 24 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 4: I battles injuries myself, and you know everybody does. Every 25 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: team faces that adversity. I just think that, you know, 26 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: we had to take a step in when we have adversity, 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 4: you know, as a team, and I think as myself, 28 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: like you know, when we have those downs, being able 29 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: to bounce back from those downs. 30 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: You personally, when you look back at the tape, what 31 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: were some of the things that you want to check 32 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: off that you wanted to work on this offseason to 33 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: get better at. 34 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, just take steps and a meshing with with the offense, 35 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 4: you know, with DJ went down, and like I said, 36 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: just being able to mess with everybody and take steps 37 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 4: in the offensive scheme and being able to take steps 38 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: in the past game, take steps in the run game, 39 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: and keep improving, whether it's run blocking routes, you know, 40 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: just keep taking steps and keep improving. 41 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: Really, how tough was it for you always having a 42 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: different offensive tackle next to you? You know, I seee 43 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: you working at OTAs now where they bring the tight 44 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: ends in with the offensive line, the running back to the court. 45 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: But you guys are doing productions together, right, making calls. 46 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: How tough is it when those guys next to you 47 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: in the blocking game, whether it's pass or run or 48 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: constantly changing. 49 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's hard for anybody. You know, you need 50 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: you need chemistry, you need you need that mesh. Like 51 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: I said, just messing with guys and being able to 52 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: communicate with guys. And the biggest thing that we take 53 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 4: away from that is, you know, just being on top 54 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 4: of our communication and being able to learn from who who, 55 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: who takes away from what, and who sees defenses the 56 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: way they see it, and being able to talk through 57 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: it and make sure everyody's on the same page. 58 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: A lot of those combo blocks are feel right to 59 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: know when you can let go with the guy that 60 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: kind of get to the second level, and so you 61 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: can only get that through working reps right. 62 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's a lot of his trust too, you know, 63 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: trusting our teammates, And I think that's what we've built 64 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: throughout OTAs and we're going to continue to build through 65 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: training camp. Is building that trust with each other and 66 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: trusting that you know, you know the right call and 67 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: the right mic point and being able to be take 68 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: the right step and trusting that he's going to be 69 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: in the right spot and take the right footwork. So 70 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: a lot of its trusts and we're building that. 71 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: All right. We've just found out a couple of days 72 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: before this recording, this is going to air, you know, 73 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: a couple weeks in the future, that Darren Waller's calling 74 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: a quits. He's going to retire, which means more responsibility. 75 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: And again you mentioned you hurt sometimes last years year 76 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: to step up and do a lot last year too 77 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: for you, THEO Lawrence, the rest of the tight Ends room. 78 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: What was your reaction and how the rest of you 79 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: guys need to need to step up with with Darren retired. 80 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, first, Darren, you know, it's a great teammate, great guy. 81 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: We loved him, We love what he did for us 82 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 4: and not just on the field but off the field, 83 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 4: and uh we appreciate that. But yeah, like you said, 84 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: we got to step up, and uh, you know it's 85 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 4: it's this is a business, and we know that we 86 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: got to be ready to step up no matter what, 87 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: no matter what happens. And I think we'll be ready, 88 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: you know, I think we'll be able to take that step. 89 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 4: And uh, like I said, it comes down to trust 90 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: and trusting each other and being able to take that 91 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: step and go forward. 92 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: I always think tight ends one of the toughest positions 93 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: for a rookie to pick up, right because you know, 94 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: I talked to the running back couple. Running backs like, yeah, 95 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: we gotta learn protections, talk to receives, So we got 96 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: to learn motion. You guys gotta learn everything. You gotta 97 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: do protections, you gotta do, run game, you gotta do receiving. 98 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: You gotta do everything. You guys got to learn. How 99 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: is theo Johnson kind of picked everything up so quickly. 100 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: I think he's in a great job. You know, I 101 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: think he's in a great job. He's a smart kid. 102 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: You know, he's being able to pick up the offense 103 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: and you know, this is not an easy offense to 104 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: pick up. So you know, I think he's taking it 105 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: day by day and he's making a lot of strides, 106 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: you know, from when he first got here. It's even now. 107 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: And you know, I think I said, he's he's a 108 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: smart kids. He's and pick it up. And again it 109 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: comes down to that trust thing and trust each other, 110 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: and he trusts me when I'm out there and helping him, 111 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: and you know, working through the process of learning the 112 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: system and learning these plays and meshing with the quarterbacks 113 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: and I think he's done a great job with that. 114 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: Do you feel like third year in the system now 115 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy, You've been able to do everything 116 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: this offseason, the windies or anything like that, that you're 117 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: ready to take a big jump in year three. 118 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. 119 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to take that step and 120 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: help my. 121 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Team that we can wait see him. I appreciate it, dude, 122 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: appreciate you all. Right now we're joined by Giants rookie 123 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: tight end, THEO Johnson, THEO. What's up, man? 124 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing well? 125 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 6: How you doing? 126 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: So? Everyone always tells me, and I feel like I've 127 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: had this question everybody on offense. But it's a complicated 128 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: offense to learn. You're a rookie, so it makes it 129 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: you're not only learning the NFL life, you're learning a 130 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: complicated offense in the NFL. What has it been like 131 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: trying to absorb this system over the past couple of 132 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: months as you're trying to work your way onto the field. 133 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think first it can definitely be overwhelming. You know, 134 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: I compare it to trying to drink water out of 135 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: a fire hose at first, But you know, as time 136 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: goes on, you start to understand the system and the 137 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: pieces start to fall in together. So I think I'm, 138 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: you know, night and day right now compared to when 139 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: I first got in, I think I'm in a good spot. 140 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: So it's definitely a lot and it's challenging, but if 141 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: you put the time in, you'll get the hang of it. 142 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Obviously at at Penn State, the amount they use 143 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: you guys in the passing game as tight ends was 144 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: some a litlemit. You didn't get a million targets like 145 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: some of these guys are other teams and everything. Right, 146 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: do you feel like in this system with the way 147 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: and now with Darren Waller's retirement opens a window for 148 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: snaps that you're gonna be putting a good situation to 149 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: kind of show off you're athleticism and be productive. 150 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know the way we've been used 151 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: so far, and you know, just a diversity of the offense. 152 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: You have to know every spot because you're gonna be 153 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: asked to do everything just so teams can't you know, 154 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: key in on stuff. So it's gonna give me a 155 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: great opportunity to be able to showcase, you know, all 156 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: of my abilities not only in the past game, but 157 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: in protection. There's a lot of protection that the tenant's 158 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: gonna be asked to do as well as run game responsibility. 159 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: So I'm excited because you know, I'm gonna get a 160 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: lot opportunities and I'm not just to be you know, 161 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: sitting back and protection on third down every time. 162 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they bring you in there by the way 163 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: to do those protection drills. They bring the tight ends 164 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: in with the running backs in the quarterback of carn Brasil, 165 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: you guys do the protection stuff together. What has it 166 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: been like learning that part of it before we get 167 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: some of the receiving stuff. 168 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's it's been a lot different 169 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: for me. There's only a handful of protections and it was, 170 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: you know, pretty simple. So now get into some of 171 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: these more complex protections. It's definitely been a learning curve 172 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: and you know, a new piece of the game that that' 173 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: I've had to get the hang of. But I've definitely 174 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: gotten the hang of it, and you know, I think 175 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be you know, hitting it in stride when 176 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: the training camp comes. 177 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Do you see yourself right now as more of a 178 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: move f tight end. Do you see yourself as more 179 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: of an in line. Why guy, how do you think 180 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: they're gonna use you early on in this process? Yeah? 181 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: I think you know, I've shown flashes early of you know, 182 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: some pretty unique abilities in the past game. But I 183 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: think that, you know, as I continue this transition to NFL, 184 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna be a guy that can kind 185 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: of do a little bit of everything. That's that's my hope, 186 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: that's my plan. That's my goal is to be someone 187 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: that you know, you can't really take off the field 188 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: just because of the abilities I have. So I think 189 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: maybe early on, maybe a little more in the past game, 190 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: and as I continue to develop in this league, I 191 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be all all down tight end. 192 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about the protection part of it, but 193 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: really early downs when really tight ends can be most effective. Right, 194 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: you get big, you get twelve personnel in there, run 195 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: play action opens up, you can run down the scene, 196 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: make plays. You have to be able to run block, right, So, hm, 197 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: you haven't don't show that yet, right, We're not doing 198 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: there's no pads, there's no contact and things like that. 199 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Talk defense a little about the pride, and I know 200 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: this is important thing at Penn State too, to be 201 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: able to block in the run game and that'll get 202 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: you on the fields. Then you can do some of 203 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: the fun passed off. 204 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was like our identity. That's like who 205 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: we were at Penn State's tight Ends. I'll never forget 206 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: my freshman year and my coach told me, hey, we 207 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: got you know this dude here, and that it's going 208 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: to be catching all our passes. If you want to 209 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: get on the field, you're gonna have to block. And 210 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: all I did was, you know, focus so much my 211 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: time and energy into learn the trade of blocking, and 212 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: throughout my whole time there, we've taken a lot of 213 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: pride in the run game and being dominant and not 214 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: just getting the job done, but doing it with a 215 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: little bit of swagger and a little bit of edge 216 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: to you. And I'm going to continue to bring that 217 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: with me to the Giants. 218 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: How much you've been able to learn from Tim Kelly, 219 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: your veteran tight ends coach that's gonna been around a 220 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: league a long time. 221 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a ton of respect for him. You know, 222 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: he's done a tremendous job at teaching and coaching me. 223 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: I feel like I've learned a bunch, you know, his 224 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: understanding of the full schemes and how he's able to 225 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: kind of articulate things to me. I think it's It's 226 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: been really cool, and I think I'm gonna continue to 227 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: learn a bunch. 228 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: From him, all right. For giant fans that haven't maybe 229 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: seen your Penn State tape and how you play, just 230 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: kind of summarize your game for him and and what 231 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: you bring to the field. 232 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm a I'm a guy that can 233 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: do a little bit of everything that you need. I'm 234 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: a big body guy that can move really well. You know, 235 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: I can beat you with my strength and my size 236 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: and and also my speed. I think I bring a 237 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: lot of versatility to the offense and and can give 238 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: some defense and some issues. 239 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, pleasure geting Lily Man. Appreciate. We'll see it training camp. 240 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: We'll see thank you, Thank you. 241 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 7: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens, 242 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 7: so go to that retreat. New you moves to the country. 243 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 7: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 244 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 7: you ready for all that life brings? 245 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Football is coming and so is the next college semester. 246 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: If you need funding, a citizen student loan could help 247 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: you pay for one hundred of your school certified cost 248 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: gets your rate quote in about two minutes at citizens 249 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: bank dot com slash pay for college. Now we're joined 250 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: by giants tight end Chris Manhard's Chris. How are you man? 251 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 5: I'm doing well? How are you? 252 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: So? What is life? Has a giant been like for you? 253 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: The last couple of months? 254 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 5: It's been pretty busy, just acclimanking myself to this building, 255 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 5: this organization, these coaches, learning the system. So surely is 256 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: slowing down, but it's going well. 257 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: Back in New York though. That must be pretty cool 258 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: for you, right, pretty convenient? Yeah? Have my family here? 259 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: And are they still here? I was one that are 260 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: they all still here? 261 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,359 Speaker 5: That my family's in the Bronx. 262 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: And still the Bronx? Yeah, that's awesome. Man. I'm a 263 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: Brooklyn guy, so I have I can I borrow? Guy? 264 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: I get it? What is How do you foresee your 265 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: role in this offensive system? The way they're going to 266 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: use you? 267 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think it's pretty consistent with the role that 268 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 5: I've taken on for a bulk of my career. I 269 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: know that I bring a large presence when it comes 270 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: to the run game, in the blocking game, and I 271 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 5: plan on utilizing my skill set to help maximize the 272 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: potential of this offense. 273 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you and Jack Jack Stall came home from Piladelphia. 274 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: Both have have a lot of experience blocking. Have you 275 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: guys kind of work together with Daniel Bellen? You're a 276 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: younger guy who has big frame. He obviously has a 277 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: ton of potential as a blocker as well. Have you 278 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: guys kind of worked together help kind of improve each 279 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: other's games? Yeah, for sure. 280 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: I mean we kind of piggyback off of each other. 281 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 5: I know that I'm, you know, probably one of the 282 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 5: older ones in the room, the oldest one in the room, 283 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: with the most experienced. So I would hope that, you know, 284 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 5: using that experience, try to take some guys under my 285 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: wing and you know, help them maximize their potential as well. 286 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: You've been in a lot of different offensive systems, right, 287 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: what's the challenge of this one? 288 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 5: I think this is one of the more challenging offenses 289 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: that I've been a part of. Just the the verbiage, 290 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 5: you know, the language of the offense, things like that. 291 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,239 Speaker 5: A lot of teams or most teams run very similar concepts. 292 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 5: They just call things different obviously, but the way this 293 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: is structured is a little bit more heavy, but. 294 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: That's what Dave's does. You know. 295 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: He brings guys in the building that that's able to 296 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 5: handle that, and obviously we're handling it well and it 297 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 5: could only get better throughout now in the course of 298 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 5: the season. 299 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: Final question, we just found that that Darren Waller is 300 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: retiring was going to be a big part of your 301 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: meeting room. He hasn't been here in the spring, so 302 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: I guess it's not a total surprise. But how does 303 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: now the whole group of room together has to come 304 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: together now and try to, you know, not replace him, 305 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: but maybe make up some of that production that he 306 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: bring to the football. 307 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, it has to be done by a committee 308 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: in our room. Darren, we know him. He's a great player, 309 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 5: done a lot of great things in this league, and 310 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 5: obviously he's gonna be missed. But that's where guys in 311 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 5: the in the in the room, all the younger guys 312 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 5: myself have to step in, step up and fill that 313 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 5: void the best that we can. 314 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Great. So what do you have to say to your 315 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: fellow New Yorkers man, new Yorker coming home city guy? 316 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: You know, are you excited you're pumped up. I mean, 317 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: oh I'm pumped. 318 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: I would say to all the New York City fans 319 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 5: just to get ready for an awesome season and we're 320 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 5: gonna turn this thing around. 321 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you, Chris, appreciate it. 322 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 5: Thank you. 323 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Now we're joined by New Giants tight End Jack Stole Jack. 324 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: How are you, man? 325 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 6: I'm doing great, happy to be here. 326 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: How has it been being in Big Blue for the 327 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: first time and kind of learning everything that goes along 328 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: with being a New York Giants. 329 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 6: It's been awesome, you know, the learning curve it's been 330 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 6: there really hasn't been too much one for me. You know, 331 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 6: everyone's been awesome here, you know, helping me, you know, 332 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 6: assimilate here into the offense. And it's been a great experience. 333 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Man. What has been the biggest challenge of 334 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: trying to learn this offense? 335 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 6: You know, it's just picking up a whole different offense. 336 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 6: You know, I was used to having one offense for 337 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 6: three years. You come here, it's a whole different scheme, 338 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: a whole different you know, way of calling these plays, 339 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 6: when to calm stuff like that. So, you know, I 340 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 6: think for me, it's just you know, matter of getting 341 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 6: this playbook down has been the biggest thing, and so 342 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 6: that's what I've been trying to do, and you know, 343 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 6: I'll be doing an upcoming months here. 344 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: Everyone tells me how complicate this offense is. Is this 345 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: tough to to kind of absorb and figure out in 346 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: a short period of time. 347 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 6: Oh, I've been spending a lot of time with it, 348 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 6: no doubt, let's put it that way. Yeah, I haven't 349 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 6: been able to check out in New York as much. 350 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 6: You know, I can end up going home and studying 351 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 6: a lot. But you know, it's a complicated offense. But 352 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 6: I think once you get it down, you know it 353 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: makes sense and you know you can go up and 354 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 6: play fast. So I think that's why they do it. 355 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 6: So you know, I'm excited to go out there, and 356 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 6: you know, end up getting that advantage once you do 357 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 6: get it down. There is a little bit of a 358 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: learning curve, but once it's once you got it down, 359 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 6: I think you end up getting advantage with it. 360 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: Awesome. We didn't have a chance to talk when you 361 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: got here. Explained to giant fans that maybe haven't seen 362 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: you play, what type of play you are. There's a 363 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: lot of different types of tight ends, right, So explain 364 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: to what's your approaches and what's your game? Yeah? 365 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know, so the first three years when I 366 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 6: was in Philly, you know it was it was a 367 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 6: lot of you know, taking up a blocking role, and 368 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 6: you know it kind of has things evolved, you know, 369 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 6: spreading a little bit into the passing game. So you know, 370 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 6: now you know on tape if you end up looking 371 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 6: at you know what it has been in the past 372 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 6: three years. It's been a lot of blocking and you know, 373 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 6: catching a little bit here and there, and you know, 374 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 6: my biggest goals end up you know, expanding in that 375 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 6: role and you know, really becoming a true all around 376 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 6: tight end. So you know, that's what I'm That's what 377 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 6: I'm hoping to bring. And you know, whatever whatever they 378 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 6: need me here to do, I'll go out and do it. 379 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 6: Whether that's a dirty work, whether that's catching you know, 380 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 6: a couple of balls of game, stuff like that. So 381 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 6: whatever we need, I'll end up doing. 382 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: Is it weird being being in blue after wearing green 383 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: for so long. 384 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 6: I'm just happy to be here, you know. It's Uh, 385 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 6: it's funny, Like like I said, I what I've thought 386 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 6: this would have happened no, but I couldn't be happier. 387 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 6: And like I said, I'm stoked to have the coaches here. 388 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 6: I'm it's been awesome having the guys and you know, hey, 389 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 6: I'm ready to roll and hey, let's get after you 390 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 6: have coach Kelly. 391 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: Tell me what has been like playing for him. 392 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 6: It's been awesome, you know, he he obviously has a 393 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 6: great offensive mind. He you know, being in oc previously, 394 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 6: you know, he really understands defenses, so you're able to 395 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 6: go into meetings and you know, just be able to 396 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 6: learn a lot just from him being up there and talking. 397 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 6: So it's been awesome having him. You end up being 398 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 6: able to dissect defenses faster. And you know, he's been 399 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 6: he's been a great guy at you know, just teaching us, 400 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 6: you know, about the game of football, and he's really 401 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: gone in depth about stuff like that to help us 402 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 6: go out there and you know, understand the broad picture, 403 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 6: but even then narrowing in to where when we're out 404 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 6: on the field, he can make it simple enough for 405 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 6: us to recognize it and help us gain an advantage 406 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 6: out there. 407 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Jack, good stuff, man, I appreciate the time. Awesome, Thank you, sir, 408 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. 409 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 7: You loved turf. You're good at it, So you start 410 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 7: a turf bus business grows, your savings grow, become the 411 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 7: most celebrated name in turf. Are you ready for all 412 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 7: that life brings? 413 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: All right, and now we're joined by giants tight End, Lawrence, Schedule, Laurence. 414 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, Man, thanks to having me. 415 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: All Right, So we just found that a couple of 416 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: days ago that Darren Waller was going to retire. Obviously 417 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: a big impact on your room. He was a vent 418 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: in the room. What was your reaction and what does 419 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: your group now need to do to try to step 420 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: up to fill that void. 421 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like everybody was kind of surprised and 422 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: not surprised at the same time. Being a close friend 423 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: to him and he's like a big brother to me, 424 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: I kind of, you know, saw it coming. But what 425 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: he did for for me personally and for the tight 426 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: End room was just give us a veteran presence that 427 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: I feel like we needed and to help us get 428 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: over that mental hump of the season like grinding out. 429 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: Just give us good veteran points of how to create 430 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: a seventeen game season and how to last and how 431 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: to stay healthy and how to protect yourself and how 432 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: to do it for so many years at a high 433 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: level that he's done. So can only speak great things 434 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: about him and what he's done for our room. And 435 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: it's time for us now to take the next step 436 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: with him not being there and make it seem like 437 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: he hasn't left. 438 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I gotta imagine too, And I think we talked 439 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: about this last year when we did this. He's like 440 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: a similar body type to you, similar play style. I 441 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: gotta imagine just him teaching you the craft of playing 442 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: that type of position at tight I must have been really 443 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: helpful for you personally. 444 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: It was helped for me in so many ways, just 445 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: just to the little details of a daily routine of 446 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: what to do, how to get yourself going in the 447 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: morning and get ready for practice, get your body ready 448 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: each and every day, because like I said, it's a grind, 449 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 3: and you know, the best ability is availability, So as 450 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 3: long as you're available, you can show your talents. And 451 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 3: he's done wonders for me as far as taking my 452 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: mental out of places where it was used to be 453 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: where it used to be and change my whole perspective 454 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: on life, on the game of football and how to 455 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: attack each and every day to be the greatest that 456 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 3: I can be, And I can only speak like I said, 457 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: I only speak great things about him. 458 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Now, I gotta imagine you love Darren, you want it 459 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: to be back. But let's be real. This opens a 460 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: window for you too, right, Yeah, where you know Bellie's 461 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: a bigger guy in line tight end, You're more that 462 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: f move tight end type of player. This opens up 463 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity for you to seize a role here, especially 464 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: on passing downs. Right, what were some of the things 465 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: based on what Darren told you last year and you 466 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: rewatching your tape from last year that you really want 467 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: to improve on the take the next step. So now 468 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: that you have the opportunity, you can step in there 469 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: and and try to seize a bigger role on this offense. 470 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, just understanding defenses more so I can play faster. 471 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: That's been the biggest thing. Usually, as with young guys, 472 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: they play a little bit slower because they're learning the offense. 473 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 3: They're thinking that they're trying to decipher what defense it is. 474 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: But when you take the more the mental game aspect 475 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: and waking up earlier and going over watching film, going 476 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: over plays, going over you know, coverages and reads with 477 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: the how to run this front versus certain leverage with 478 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: you know, with your quarterback, with DJ with you know, 479 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: Drew Lock with Tommy. That's been the biggest thing for 480 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: help with me personally and just playing faster and being 481 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: more confident in myself now this second year fully in 482 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 3: this offense and I can't wait to, you know, to 483 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: show that this coach, this team in the city of 484 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 3: New York, what type of player I can be and 485 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: how I can help this team get to another championship level. 486 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys in your position on 487 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: this team that are heading into their second year, and 488 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: so many people I've said what you just said to me. 489 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: This offense is complicated and it takes a long time 490 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: to learn it. What type of jump can we expect 491 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: from guys like you who feel more comfortable heading into 492 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: their second year. You're not thinking as much And how 493 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: does that impact you on the field? 494 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it helps. It impacts a lot. Now, you know, knowing, Okay, 495 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: on this certain coverage, you have this route, but if 496 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: it if it's if they roll to another coverage, then 497 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: you got to break off your route to another. 498 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Cover, or if they give you a certain leverage right, 499 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: That's exactly it. 500 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: So just being more confident in those decision makings and 501 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: having you know, my quarterback and the offensive coordinator and 502 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: head coach trusts trust me to make those decisions in 503 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 3: high lever situations. It's the only thing you can ask 504 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: for as a player. And that's what you know. Training 505 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: camp is going to be for and the rest of 506 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: the season is going to be for. And I can't 507 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: and way to you know, to show my ability of 508 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: what I can I can bring to this room and 509 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: to show that you know, we lost therein but we didn't. 510 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: We didn't lose the step. We still have me and 511 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: we can continue to grow with me. Belly, THEO, Chris 512 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: manhurds Og all those guys, and we can just feel 513 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: the void and step right in and act like nothing 514 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 3: that ever happened. 515 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, just real quick before you say goodbye, go a 516 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: couple guys waiting about your teammates. You mentioned THEO Johnson. 517 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: How is he kind of you know, picking things up 518 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: as a rookie. I know it could be tough, you know, 519 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: drinking out of fire rose the old expression. And then 520 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys added some different body types 521 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: of the room too. 522 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 5: Right. 523 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: You guys got a nice little group of guys with 524 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: different skill sets. 525 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, we added a bunch of great guys. 526 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: You know, one thing I can say about this room 527 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: right now is like we're very close. And that's usually 528 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: takes usually get the training camp to have that the 529 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: room this close. But you know, we're all brothers really 530 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: essentially right now, man, Belly. I joke with Belly, I'm like, 531 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: I know I wasn't a rookie with you, but I 532 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: feel like when I'm coming in here, me and you 533 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: were rookies in his office. So uh, I love it. 534 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: THEO has been been doing great. He's been, you know 535 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: with this offense. Like I said, it's a it's a 536 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 3: it's a it's a challenge, but he's been he's been 537 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: up to the challenge. He's been doing his things. He's 538 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: been doing extra work, getting in with Coach Kelly. I 539 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: can only speak great things about him. He's gonna be 540 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: a great player and I'm excited to see what we're 541 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: gonna do. 542 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: How has Coach Kelly. 543 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 5: He's been great. 544 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: It's been great. 545 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: He's been He's really been teaching us outside of just 546 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 3: tight end position and work has been you know what 547 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: what you're gonna expect as a as an offense completing 548 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 3: think of the whole offense and the whole defensive scheme 549 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: and not just what what your job is and what 550 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: your route is. But okay, we're it's situational down. I 551 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: know they play dis coverage discovered, so they're probably going 552 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: to roll to a certain receiver or roll to a 553 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: certain side where you know old lineman is maybe limpy 554 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: or somebody. Just situation awareness in the game to know that, Okay, 555 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: I'm getting this coverage and how I can affect the 556 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: game off of them trying to affect us. And it's 557 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: been it's been amazing. Love him as a coach. He's 558 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: very energetic, and I love that because you know, when 559 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: you get to the dog days, especially even in OTA's 560 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: but especially in training camp, it gets repetitive. But you 561 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: need that. You need those guys in the room, even 562 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: even if it's a coach or a player, to keep 563 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: the energy up, to keep people going because it can 564 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: get repetitive, and once you get repetitive, you can lose 565 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: your mind. But once you keep having fun at it, 566 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: then you're good. 567 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Good stuff. On appreciate the time appreciate you. A nice 568 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: set of players with different skill sets right here on 569 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: the Giants Total Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the 570 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: official bank of the Giants. I'm John Schmult Thanks you 571 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: being with us. We'll see you next time.