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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to another episode of Rough Fresh.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jake Koefer, and we have three Big Buck stories

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Speaker 1: and updates from Kansas, Illinois, and Pennsylvania, and we're getting

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Speaker 1: deeper into the month of November. Thanksgiving is just right

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Speaker 1: around the corner, and I think this is one thing

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Speaker 1: for everyone to consider when the calendars, which is two December,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be wishing it was November again. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of the advice and updates here throughout this

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Speaker 1: episode is to remember it's November. Remember this is the

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Speaker 1: time we've been waiting for, and to keep at it

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Speaker 1: and keep just plugging away, Just keep plugging away, and

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Speaker 1: I hope there's some great intel here for you folks

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Speaker 1: in this episode. As you know, Roughresh is brought to

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Speaker 1: properties here in the US. My challenge for you guys

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Speaker 1: this week is just to keep positive mindset, keep out there,

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Speaker 1: working hard, keep scouting, don't be afraid to call an

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Speaker 1: audible on your game plan, and just give November everything

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Speaker 1: you got on what you can do. I know, for

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Speaker 1: myself personally, it's getting to the point of the year

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Speaker 1: where I'm starting to feel little guilty for hunting really

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Speaker 1: hard responsibilities are falling on the wayside.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna be missing this time period. So do

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Speaker 2: what you can.

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Speaker 1: If you can walk, walk, if you can crawl, crawl,

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Speaker 1: And let's kick this off with Anthony Warren and Kansas,

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Speaker 1: who just shy his personal best.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, first up on the line,

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Speaker 1: we have Anthony Warren who just shot a personal best

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, pretty pretty close.

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Speaker 3: I don't score a ton of my dear, but he's

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Speaker 3: definitely gonna be in contention, and I'm super stoked about it.

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Speaker 3: And he was a real, real nice basically main framemate.

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Speaker 3: So just a giant, giant body of a deer and.

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Speaker 4: And just really great rack for an eight point anywhere?

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Speaker 2: Really yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, and so and that was in Kansas, right, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Okay, So Kansas, big Buck has hit the dirt.

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about I know you had previous

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Speaker 1: encounters with that deer in the past, but how did

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Speaker 1: it come together here recently?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know, this this season has been probably a little

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Speaker 3: slower and I don't know what you know, everybody else

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Speaker 2: It's just seemed like everything's been pretty late.

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Speaker 3: And the week leading up to that, I was actually

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Speaker 3: in Illinois and it was almost dead there. You know,

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Speaker 3: cameras were telling me that deer on my farm in

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Speaker 3: Kansas were starting to move. And you know, there's not

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Speaker 3: really a whole lot of secret sauces that goes into

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Speaker 3: bit of strategy on my part when it comes to,

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Speaker 3: you know, the deer moving and kind of what I

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Speaker 3: But you know, really it just has seemed overall to

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Speaker 3: last year, I actually I actually shot this deer on

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Speaker 3: he came and came in super pad and heated and

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Speaker 2: But this year, fortunately, I think he came back.

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Speaker 3: A little bit bigger, a little bit bigger frame, and

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Speaker 3: a group of doughs that was I don't know, there

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Speaker 3: were probably eight to ten dos in this group. And

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Speaker 3: that a doe had stopped and urinated, and he was

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Speaker 3: and then he'd he nosed down and then you know,

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Speaker 3: was pretty gnarly to see such a big frame buck

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, that that was kind of how that unfolded.

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Speaker 3: But you know, really just the history of knowing, you know,

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Speaker 3: where this buck liked to be, and then kind of

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Speaker 4: Around where I knew does wanted to be was kind

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Speaker 3: And I'd actually never hunted this particular part of the

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Speaker 3: a great killing spot. But I was obviously pleasantly surprised

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, no, that's that's what we all hope for.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think paying attention to the

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's a little bit of luck, a little bit

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Speaker 1: an incredible buck and congratulations. Now for guys that have

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Speaker 1: don't want to lower my standards necessarily, but I do

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Speaker 1: want to potentially shift around. And so now it's November

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Speaker 1: nineteenth and all the really exciting dates that are. You know,

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Speaker 1: everyone has a favorite day. There's not too many people

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Speaker 1: that say, my favorite day is November nineteenth. So with

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Speaker 1: all that being said, we're leading up to Thanksgiving. Now,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm kind of adding on to what I

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Speaker 3: said earlier. I truly feel like we're probably seven to

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Speaker 2: I've talked to guys that.

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Speaker 2: They kind of feel the same way.

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Speaker 3: Based on what I know right now at the time

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Speaker 3: I had seen, you know, even two days ago before

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Speaker 3: So I know that I had a buddy that had

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Speaker 3: my true gut feeling on this doesn't really change. I

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Speaker 3: it never hurts the being a pinch point between two

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Speaker 2: Again, my gut tells.

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Speaker 3: I still think if you're a guy and you're discouraged

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Speaker 4: Like what you really need is you just need to

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Speaker 3: A place where a dough is going to walk by

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Speaker 3: and lead a big buck and that. And that's frustrating

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Speaker 2: And you're like, man, what am I doing here?

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Speaker 3: I'm driving myself crazy, and then at eleven ten am,

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Speaker 3: you know, everything changes because the doe walks by with

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Speaker 3: things have a proclivity of happening this time of year.

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Speaker 3: It's just going to be about, like you can you

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Speaker 3: last through the grind. You know, I don't always love

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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. Yeah, No, I think

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Speaker 3: It's just because he's frantic looking for you know, the

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Speaker 3: But that's kind of you know, the last week point

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Speaker 4: It's just a matter of if you're if you're there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. That's great advice, wonderful advice. So

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Speaker 3: Around at eight and it's gonna feel like a ten

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Speaker 2: But that's just kind of the nature of this year.

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Speaker 3: You just have to you just kind of have to

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Speaker 2: So well you oasher out.

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Speaker 2: It was a bummer. I've been through the ringer on it.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful man. Well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Oh, good buddy, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: It's doing great? I know you You shot a giant

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Speaker 4: It was insane. I found him in the summer and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, how many times when you say waiting for

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Speaker 1: Now, get tight your bidding and then as far as

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Speaker 1: Fatigue And I feel like that's such a cheesy way

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I'd just say keep going, man,

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Speaker 4: So it's never over, you know what I mean, till

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And as far as you know tight to betting,

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Speaker 4: then there was a little betting pocket right in there,

441
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 4: and I got on the backside of it and bumped

442
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 4: a couple more, you know. So just thick, nastiest spots

443
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 4: you can find as far away from human pressure as possible.

444
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: M do you do you get discourage when you're bumping

445
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 1: deer when you're going in to set up on something new, Like,

446
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: you know, you throw in the kayak two miles and

447
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 1: you're like, man, I gave all the way back here

448
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: and I parked my kayak, I walked ten feet and

449
00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 1: I busted one right away.

450
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 4: I wasn't even off the kayak and I'm blowing deer.

451
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 4: I was so pissed. But yeah, it's one of them

452
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 4: things where it's it's hard not to get pissed. But

453
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: you just got to think, like you're already seeing deer.

454
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 4: You're in where deer want to be, you know, don't

455
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 4: don't hang your head. It's not like, you know, it's

456
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 4: not like the deer are just gonna run forever and

457
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: just be tear like tear off out of the state,

458
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 4: you know, out of the country, like they're still in there.

459
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 1: M yeah, No, I think that's good advice as far

460
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: as food sources or or even you know, I feel

461
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: like there's you categorize a few strategies. People are going

462
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: to be deployed here for the next couple, you know,

463
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: the next week, depending on whether potentially food sources may

464
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: have some pull and attraction, and obviously it's dependent on

465
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 1: where you're at in the country. Another one to be

466
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: travel corridors in between betting areas. And then you know,

467
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: tight to betting, and you think tight to betting is

468
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: probably the one of your best approach for this time

469
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Speaker 1: period leading up to Thanksgiving.

470
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Speaker 4: Yeah, for right now, and then once late season comes

471
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 4: and I kind of shift to food, you know what

472
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 4: I mean. But as of right now, do tight to

473
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: betting is my best advice, Like you know, down winside

474
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 4: of betting, let bucks either crew is to your come

475
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 4: in the betting area and check it out, you know,

476
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: or maybe even they're found a doe in there and

477
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 4: they'll squirret out, you know. It just it just really

478
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: just depends. But tight to betting always have seemed to

479
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 4: be the key for me.

480
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: So mm hmm, do you think do you think it

481
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: even carries more merit this time of year than earlier,

482
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: or like, how would you rank that in terms of,

483
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, specifically this upcoming week.

484
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 4: What tight to betting? I would say, I mean, it

485
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 4: just really depends. Like early season, you know, morning sits,

486
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 4: I'm tight to betting too, you know, the October, you know,

487
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: early October, late October, I'm tight to betting. Like I'd

488
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 4: say the majority of the things tight to bedding right now,

489
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: you know, Like it's stupid to say it sounds like

490
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 4: I'm just saying like a bunch of rubbish, But like, dude,

491
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 4: that's that's where I'm flying. I'm just just tight to betting, man,

492
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: Like it's they're just out and about in the betting areas,

493
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 4: you know.

494
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've had an incredible year. How many bucks

495
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: have you knocked down this year?

496
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: I killed six?

497
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a crazy season, dude.

498
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, wild dude, I can't belie that. The biggest one

499
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 4: was that PA one and then I killed like one

500
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: hundred and forty inch out in Illinois. I killed like

501
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty velvet and uh Delaware, and then

502
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 4: I killed it a decent Kansas bug. He was probably

503
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 4: like right about one hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty

504
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 4: inches and then uh, I killed like two Maryland bugs.

505
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: I mean, they weren't the biggest bucks in the world,

506
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: but they're still good to hear, pump me up.

507
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: So that's that's an unreal season.

508
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 1: And the follow up question I was, were they all

509
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: type to betty?

510
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: Where they all types of betting?

511
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 4: No, well, the one was not too were okay, all right,

512
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: three but all right, so pretty much five of them were.

513
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 4: I'd say like the last the last ones were that

514
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: the one I killed early season, like I killed him September.

515
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 4: Second that wasn't tight to betting. I was still probably

516
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 4: three hundred yards from betting, but I was pretty much

517
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: sitting right next to a sway beanfield and they came

518
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 4: right down the buffer zone. You know. I shot him

519
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 4: in the woods, but I was still probably three hundred

520
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: yards from betting. It's more betted.

521
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, And for people listening to when you say

522
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: tight to betting, and I'm picturing I'm picturing more Eastern

523
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: hunting in my own head right now. But when you

524
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: say tight, is that I understand it's situational based off

525
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: train and how close can you really get without you know,

526
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: getting busted. But as a rule of thumb, is tight

527
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: to betting to you one hundred yards, one hundred and

528
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: fifty yards, sixty yards.

529
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 4: Just to get someone to rule with them, Yeah, I'd

530
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 4: say under one hundred for sure. You know, the closer

531
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: the better, closer the better if you can get right

532
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: on top of them. You know, if you have a

533
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 4: bed picked out, you know you're bed hunting it, like,

534
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 4: you know, getting tight as possible. But yeah, if you're

535
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: just hunting a general bet betting area like a dough

536
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 4: betting area, I'd say within you know, seventy five hundred yards,

537
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: I'd say if you can get closer by all means,

538
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 4: do it. You know, a lot of times you'll find

539
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: edges right on the edge of the betting area, and

540
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: a lot of times I can get right into there.

541
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 4: That's the ticket for me one d percent.

542
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: So looking here, the next week's scale one to ten,

543
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: ten being the best week of the year, one being

544
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Speaker 1: the worst week of the year. November nineteenth to blackout Wednesday.

545
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: What do you what do you rank this week coming

546
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: up for run activity for big Bucks?

547
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 4: I'd probably say seven. I mean they're still they're ad

548
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 4: meant they're definitely on lockdown, you know, but like they're

549
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 4: still out and about and like I said, like the

550
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: majority of the big Bucks I find do you know,

551
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 4: pulling troil cramps and stuff like, I get a lot

552
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 4: in that timeframe just moving. We see them out with

553
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: those two, you know a lot of midday stuff too.

554
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: So i'd say i'd say seven, depending on how the

555
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: weather is. You know, if you can get a cold snap,

556
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 4: it's on fire man, I'll guarantee. If it's seventy degrees,

557
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's going to shut things down a little bit,

558
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 4: you know, but they'll still be running at night. But

559
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: I like it.

560
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: Where can people follow along with some of the hunts

561
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: here that you had this year?

562
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, if every hunt and I've talked about so far,

563
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: you can go on our channel just in the presence

564
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: hunt pop right up for you. We're also on social media.

565
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 4: If you type you know, Instagram, you type that in,

566
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 4: will pop right up. Facebook type pop right back, pop

567
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 4: up for you.

568
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Speaker 1: So aw, Yeah, Well, dude, what an incredible season, and

569
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: good luck the rest of the year. I don't know

570
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: if there's any more Bucks safe with the tear you've

571
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: been on, but congratulations.

572
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: And good luck the rest of the season.

573
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks by I appreciate so much. Thanks shoving me

574
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 4: on all right.

575
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: Next up we have Shane Albert who just tagged this

576
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: personal best buck in the state of Illinois.

577
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: Shane, how does it feel.

578
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 5: It's a huge relief.

579
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 6: I mean, getting a deer down before for the Illinois

580
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 6: gun season is seems like always the goal. So to

581
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 6: do it and to do it do it with the

582
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 6: bow on my personal best is Yeah. Man, it's been

583
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 6: a big weight off the shoulders the last few days.

584
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: That's awesome man. Congratulations.

585
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: So before we get into the story and how it

586
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: went down and what the activity has been here recently,

587
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you a tough trivia question

588
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: in the state of Illinois.

589
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: What is the.

590
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: Surveyed your population in the state of Illinois, and it's

591
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands.

592
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a little bit of a

593
00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: hit here.

594
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think I know it.

595
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 6: Once upon a time, I think we used to shoot

596
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 6: about one hundred thousand deer, just under a one hundred

597
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 6: thousand deer. I think those numbers are down and I'm

598
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 6: going off of memory there.

599
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna do a round number.

600
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.

601
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 6: Get the prices right here. I'm gonna guess seven hundred thousand.

602
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: It's actually two hundred and ninety thousand, which seems really

603
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: that is I think that's too low personally.

604
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just drive a drive at night during November.

605
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: I see feel like I see that man serious.

606
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

607
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about the breakdown here. I

608
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: know you kind of hunt throughout the state of Illinois,

609
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: and you had packed up your bags and went to

610
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: a different part of the state.

611
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 2: Break it.

612
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: Break it down because I think showing up and hunting

613
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: on the fly is maybe a benefit in November or

614
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: maybe a detriment obviously worked out for you.

615
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

616
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's chaotic, for sure, but it is. It is

617
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 6: nice to have the options. So yeah, I live in

618
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 6: northwest Illinois. I've got to I own a small farm

619
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 6: up here and been hunting that pretty hard. Got a

620
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 6: good deer on it and have had a couple encounters

621
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 6: with him. But the middle of November I usually just

622
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 6: take a mini ructation and then I'll take the gun season.

623
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 6: So I had the days off to kind of just

624
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 6: bounce around and do what the encounters and the cameras

625
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 6: told me.

626
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 5: So I hunted hard at home.

627
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 6: I had some good encounters with several bucks, and it

628
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 6: just wasn't it just wasn't there yet. I wasn't seeing

629
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 6: the activity. The mature bucks that I was seeing were

630
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 6: not doing what I thought I needed them to do

631
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 6: to kill them. And we we have a I've got

632
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 6: an uncle who owns a good farm down in south

633
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 6: central Annoy It's about four and a half hours south

634
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 6: of me and my cousin and I hunt that pretty

635
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 6: hard and we manage that one as best as we can.

636
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 6: And it's tough for me to get down there as

637
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 6: much as I want to, but we spend a lot

638
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 6: of time on the food plots and the trail cameras

639
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 6: and the box lilnes and all that fun stuff.

640
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 5: And we did we did have some good deer on camera.

641
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 6: So about that time that my farm was kind of

642
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 6: slowing down a little bit, I did decide to pack

643
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 6: the bags and head down there.

644
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 5: And uh yeah, So I headed down.

645
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 6: If you want to just straight into the that few

646
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 6: days that I had. So I left here on Monday morning,

647
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 6: took a morning hunt off and dropped my kids off

648
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 6: at school, and I was like, okay, doing the math

649
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 6: and stop for lunch and fuel up. And by the

650
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 6: time I get there, I'm like, it'll be about about

651
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 6: time to hop straight into into a stand. So the

652
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 6: whole drive down there, of course, I'm looking at wind

653
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 6: directions and talking to my cousin about where to go, and.

654
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 5: He's like, I just go to food.

655
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 6: We had a big cold snap, heavy winds, a thirty

656
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 6: degree temperature drop. He's like, I bet you there's gonna

657
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 6: be deer on food and Bucks will swing by and

658
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 6: see what they can find for doze.

659
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 5: Right, It's just that time of year. And he nailed it.

660
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 6: Give him, Give him that credit. I want his head

661
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 6: to get any bigger than his doorways are. But he

662
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 6: called it, and I raced all the way down there,

663
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 6: and I'm kidding, I kid you not, Jake. I was

664
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 6: pulled up to the parking spot, walked up, walked out

665
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 6: to the blind. I didn't have the door shut on

666
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 6: the blind and I looked up and are number one

667
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 6: or number two, depending on if you talk to me

668
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 6: or My cousin was walking across, walking into the food

669
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 6: plot from the corner right in front of the blind

670
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 6: and I had my backpack on. I did an arrow

671
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 6: still in the quiver, no release nothing. I mean, I

672
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 6: literally was didn't even have the door shut.

673
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: So I'm in panic mode getting arrow knocked.

674
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 6: The deer ends up angling towards the blind and cutting

675
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 6: out about fifty yards.

676
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: The wind was so heavy and he was through.

677
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 6: A pretty good amount of weeds in the food plot

678
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 6: that I was worried about a deflection if I were

679
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 6: to were to shoot one, but not getting a good

680
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 6: range on him and the wind and the panic that

681
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 6: I had, I was like, I'm not going to shoot

682
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 6: this year unless he happens to come into, you know,

683
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 6: making make a move and angle into about thirty yards

684
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 6: or less. So he comes in just got to fifty

685
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 6: was about the closest that I was able to get

686
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 6: a range on him, and he was able to basically

687
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 6: check the whole food plot, didn't see a single dough

688
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 6: and walked out. So that was at one thirty on

689
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 6: Monday afternoon. So I was not expecting that obviously. Yeah, yeah,

690
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 6: very early and by himself just doing what big bucks

691
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 6: do on you know, that was November tenth.

692
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 5: You know, he was just cruising.

693
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 6: He was my guess, he was between doughs, and he

694
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 6: was he was looking for his second, second or third one.

695
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 6: By that time of year, it could have been the third.

696
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 6: Even so a bunch of come out. He never comes

697
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 6: back to check the plot. Had a great hunt, saw

698
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 6: twenty to thirty deer, but no mature bucks ever ended

699
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 6: up stepping out a hunt of the next morning in

700
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 6: a big timber ridge in a saddle, saw another pile

701
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 6: of deer, saw a good three year old chasing doze

702
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 6: right underneath me. Small bucks cruising and I and I

703
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 6: had an encounter with again.

704
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: He now looking looking. Now we've got one, dear down.

705
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 6: I would say that this is our the one that

706
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 6: I saw Saturday, or I'm sorryday Tuesday, Tuesday morning, Tuesday morning,

707
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 6: the one that I saw Tuesday morning. He's probably our

708
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 6: number one now that I've got what and I think

709
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 6: our number two is on the ground. But he shows

710
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 6: up straight behind me in a saddle came in straight

711
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 6: down win.

712
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if he ever got my win. He

713
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 5: never spooked, but.

714
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 6: The closest he got was about eighty yards. So I

715
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 6: got a really good look at him. Saw a big

716
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 6: split on one side. Thought it was my dear at first,

717
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 6: because that was the most distinct thing about him.

718
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: He's got double split g Tues.

719
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 6: And so when I saw him on Monday afternoon, I

720
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 6: thought this year on Tuesday morning, same year, I'm like,

721
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 6: I saw a big split running through the woods.

722
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 5: So I'm like, there he is again.

723
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 6: Well, I got some video of him and we can

724
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 6: actually tell he's only got one split on one side,

725
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 6: so we're like, that's a different deer. So we kind

726
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 6: of have a beat on two different bucks on the

727
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 6: same side of the farm.

728
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 4: Now.

729
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 6: So my cousin comes down on Tuesday afternoon and I

730
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 6: actually send him a pin. I'm like, I'm thinking about

731
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 6: going right here in my saddle or a or a

732
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 6: hanging hunt situation. And he's like, man's that's about where

733
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 6: I was gonna go. And I'm like, all right, no

734
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 6: big deal. I'm like, you go there. I was actually

735
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 6: thinking about going back to that food plot and doing

736
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 6: a hanging hunt.

737
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: So the big thing.

738
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 6: On Tuesday afternoon was that we had a wind shift

739
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 6: from from northwest to southwest, and it was still a

740
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 6: very strong wind. So with the south wind, I knew

741
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: here's my big takeaway is that.

742
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: I knew there was a good deer in the area.

743
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: The odds he was going to do the exact same

744
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 6: thing twice, we're slim, and even if he did and

745
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 6: I was in the same spot, he's gonna skirt me

746
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 6: at fifty yards again, right, So I had to make

747
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 6: a move and do something different. So with the south wind,

748
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 6: I was able to get on the northwest side of

749
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 6: this food plot in the woods, just a little bit

750
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 6: to where all the deer that entered the food plot

751
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 6: come in straight up wind. So if everything happened at

752
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 6: the same I had great wind for it.

753
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 5: So that's exactly what I did.

754
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 6: So my cousin went to my initial spot I was

755
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 6: looking to go. I jumped back over in that food

756
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 6: plot that I saw that big deer the night before.

757
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 6: And this is where it got chaotic, is I got

758
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 6: out of the woods from my morning hunt. I went

759
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 6: and grabbed a tree stand that I'd hung somewhere else

760
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 6: for my hanging bang set up. And I was back

761
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 6: at the truck and I got my bow out. I

762
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 6: shot a couple of arrows just to pass some time

763
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 6: and make sure my bow's good after the you know

764
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 6: hunting and all the drive and everything. Set my bow

765
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 6: on the table I get all my game playing together.

766
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 5: Get my tree stand packed up.

767
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 6: I head to the woods and I throw my stand

768
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 6: and my pack on and I'm like, all I just

769
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 6: got to grab my bow and pull my open my

770
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 6: back door my truck, pull my bow out, and it's

771
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 6: not there, and I'm like, oh my gosh, left my.

772
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 5: Bow at the cabin.

773
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 6: I knew I was sitting right on the table where

774
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 6: I left it after I got done shooting.

775
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 5: So I'm like, all right, mind you.

776
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 6: I wanted to be in the woods by one o'clock

777
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 6: since I saw the deer by one thirty the day before,

778
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 6: and so at this point it's about twelve forty five,

779
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 6: I run back to get my bow. Come back now,

780
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 6: I got everything right, So hike in about four hundred yards,

781
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 6: get the tree stand hung. Takes I'm not super efficient

782
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 6: at doing a hanging hunt yet, but I hang.

783
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 5: About twenty minutes or so.

784
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 6: I get set up, and I'm not super happy with

785
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 6: myself for forgetting my bow.

786
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 5: I'm sweaty. It was warmer that day.

787
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 6: I was I was like, I just didn't feel super

788
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 6: confident just all things considered, I was rushed, you know,

789
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 6: the feeling, and you're covered in sweat. You just hung

790
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 6: a stand, you know, straps in the way, and I'm

791
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 6: all frustrated. And about that time I was like, all right,

792
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 6: we're here, We're good, We're set up. It was about

793
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 6: one thirty at that point, so of course I'm looking

794
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 6: for deer and I'm like, all right, I got to

795
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 6: get my binos out, start glass and see if this

796
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 6: buck's going to come through. And that was about the

797
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 6: time that I went in my backpack realized that my

798
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 6: binos are not in my backpack. So I'm beyond frustrated now,

799
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 6: and I think I even texted you that you know,

800
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 6: this is going to be the day that you know,

801
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 6: I think I called it. I said, I if this

802
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 6: is as this as cluster, as clustered as I was,

803
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 6: as this day was.

804
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 5: I was like, this is the day that I'm going

805
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: to randomly shoot a big deer. Right.

806
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 6: Ended up standing there for ten minutes trying to look

807
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 6: through the woods and see everything that moved that wasn't

808
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 6: a deer, and I could not do it. I could

809
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 6: not go ten minutes without binos. And I was like,

810
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 6: you know what, the other than that big deer, the

811
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 6: other deer that came out was at three h nine

812
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 6: it is it is a one. I think it was

813
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 6: one forty five. I said, I got plenty of time.

814
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 6: Let's just go ahead and go get those binos. So

815
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 6: I got down, went and got the bino's and the

816
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 6: range finder.

817
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 5: Min knew the rangefinders also in there.

818
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 6: And I get back in the woods and I had

819
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 6: a I remember time stamping this because I had sent

820
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 6: a buddy a text message about forgetting my binoculars at

821
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 6: two oh four, and I turned around to get some

822
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 6: water out of my backpack because I was sweat like

823
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 6: crazy just a walk. I went to grab a water.

824
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 6: So I turned around and I see a deer walking

825
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 6: through the woods and I was like, that's a big

826
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 6: body deer. I got the binos that I just had

827
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 6: to have. I got those vinys up and I realized

828
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 6: I saw the double splits, and I was like, there

829
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 6: he is.

830
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: He's he's he's he's doing it. And so he comes

831
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 5: and angles through the woods. And this is.

832
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 6: Another part of it that I've reflected a lot on

833
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 6: that I've I've evolved as a hunter and I've and

834
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 6: I've gotten better, is that when I realized that I

835
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 6: was in the game, I really focused on how things

836
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 6: went from there up into the shot and post shot

837
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 6: instead of just overwhelming, like getting overwhelmed with a big

838
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 6: buck and the rack, and in the moment, I really

839
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 6: harnessed everything and I and I executed as best as

840
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 6: I could. And by that, I mean he was angled

841
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 6: towards me. But I didn't just watch the deer. I

842
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 6: really looked at the route he was taking and all

843
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 6: the possibilities that he could go. And I remember thinking

844
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 6: vividly like, he's gonna come check this food plot. But

845
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 6: looking at the edge of this food plot, it is

846
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 6: full of multi flour rows and it is it is thick.

847
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 5: So that limits them.

848
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 6: It kind of funnels them to the corners of the

849
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 6: food plot. And he's angled to the corner that I'm

850
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: sitting on. So I start ranging shooting lanes and I realized,

851
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 6: I'm like, Okay, there's gonna be one at forty one,

852
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 6: there's gonna be one at thirty three, and if he.

853
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: Takes this way, I'll have a chip shot.

854
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 6: So I'm doing all that stuff as he's coming in

855
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 6: about seventy yards and he's angled to me. So instead

856
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 6: of just watching the deer walk through the woods while

857
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 6: I had.

858
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 5: Time I start planning what's going to happen.

859
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 6: I try to predict multiple scenarios, and sure enough he

860
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 6: comes to it, comes to the right angle, and he

861
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 6: comes to forty one, and I start to realize. I'm like, sure,

862
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 6: I could shoot him at forty one, but the multiple

863
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 6: rows is going to funnel him even closer. So five

864
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 6: years ago, I might have just just said I got

865
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 6: a shot, take it. But he was upwind. I put

866
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 6: this stand in the perfect spot for this wind. He

867
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 6: had no idea I was there. I mean, zero clue.

868
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 6: He was just doing butt. He was just doing buck

869
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 6: things in November, just checking out. He wasn't moving fast,

870
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 6: he was just checking out, nose to the ground, see

871
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 6: when he could smell and.

872
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 5: See right, comes up to thirty five yards straight at me.

873
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 5: Rubs on a seater.

874
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 6: Gives me even more time to play out different scenarios.

875
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 5: I ranged everything that I could.

876
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 6: Of course, bos in hand releases is hooked, and I'm

877
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 6: ranging everything I can. And I said, ninety percent chance

878
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 6: he's gonna take this angle and he's gonna go right

879
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 6: between those two trees at thirty three yards, And that's

880
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 6: exactly what he did. So everything was played out perfect.

881
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 6: The deer walks into the shooting lane. I draw as

882
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 6: he gets to the first tree. The deer did not

883
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 6: stop naturally in the shooting lanes, so I gave him

884
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 6: the map. And the mistake that I made, this is

885
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 6: the one mistake that I made, and it was a

886
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 6: big mistake, is I did not let that deer stop.

887
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: I predicted he was going to stop, so it was

888
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 6: so windy, I don't think he heard the map, so

889
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 6: I went map shot rather than map wait for them

890
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 6: to stop.

891
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 5: Shoot.

892
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 6: So when he when he was when he hit my pin,

893
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 6: I expected him to stop, so I shot. He didn't stop.

894
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 6: He took another step, so I hit him about ten

895
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 6: inches back. Not a good shot right off the bat.

896
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 5: You know.

897
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 6: Wasn't happy. But the second thought into my mind was

898
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 6: dead deer. For sure, a dead deer. The next thing

899
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 6: that he did was he sprinted into the food plot

900
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 6: and I could see a big entry, a big entry hole.

901
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 5: So that was good.

902
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 6: I was happy with that, trying to get another arrow

903
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: in just in case I could get another shot out

904
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 6: of me, even if it was a long one. He

905
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 6: didn't get in a good shooting window for me, so

906
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 6: I just watched him. He cut into a draw and

907
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 6: I was able to watch him for about one hundred yards.

908
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 6: I saw the entrance again and it was it had

909
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 6: it had blood coming out of that a big entrance hole.

910
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 6: So I felt confident that this was a fatal hit

911
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 6: at that point. It was just a matter of how

912
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 6: much time to give him. So that was at two

913
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 6: twenty so mind you, I got back in the tree

914
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 6: at two o'clock with my bino's and I had an

915
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 6: arrow in that deer at two twenty, so again really

916
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 6: early first year out. I made a phone call my

917
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 6: cousin who's hunting on that that other spot on the

918
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 6: farm not too far away, and told him what happened.

919
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 6: You know, we kind of we kind of had some

920
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 6: predictions on where he's gonna go.

921
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 5: A lot of deer have died in that draw that

922
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: he went to.

923
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 6: It's just a real thick draw between two food plots

924
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 6: that they like to bed in and and and.

925
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 5: They'll they'll hang out there quite a bit.

926
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 6: Uh, there's a good chance that he could have died

927
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 6: right in there in his first or second bed and

928
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 6: then there's another bedding area about it's a it's a

929
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 6: big long tree planning that's about fifty ten years old.

930
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 6: So it's a bunch of small saplings. It's really thick.

931
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 6: There's a creek on one side. It's just a heavy

932
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 6: betting area that we we tend to find a lot

933
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 6: of dead deer in from either obviously deer that we've

934
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 6: hit or the neighbors. This was this was one of

935
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 6: those scenarios where we knew we just had to wait

936
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 6: and if we played our cards right, we're going to

937
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 6: find this year.

938
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 5: Never had the doubt in my mind that it wasn't fatal.

939
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 6: And you even, you know, said start the twenty four

940
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 6: hour clock, you know, after I told you that I

941
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 6: got to hit in one and where it was, and

942
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 6: so that's what we did. We called a couple of

943
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 6: dog trackers in the area. Obviously this time of year

944
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 6: they are swamped, so just getting them on the phone

945
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 6: is tough to do. But I give a shout out

946
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 6: to those guys because they save a lot of hunters

947
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 6: this time of year. But I talked to a couple

948
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 6: of them just out of you know, it's like, hey,

949
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 6: even if you can't help me, I'd really like to

950
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 6: just get your opinion on the time stamp that we

951
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 6: need to be here, that we need to be waiting here, right,

952
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: And that gave me the confidence to do exactly that,

953
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 6: which is wait twenty four hours. So we waited twenty

954
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 6: four hours. We had a we had a dog tracker

955
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 6: on the way we went. We ended up going back

956
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 6: down to the cabin while you know, we beat him

957
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 6: down there by about an hour or so, and we

958
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 6: decided to just kind of drive down there just see,

959
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 6: just check the area out.

960
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 5: There's a lot of hunters around the area.

961
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 6: We just want to check and see if we check

962
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 6: some fields, see if we see any big bucks running.

963
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 5: And of course we weren't hunting.

964
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 6: My cousin worked that day, and I was just in

965
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 6: weight mode, right, so I wasn't I wasn't really interested

966
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 6: in getting back out in the woods for even even

967
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 6: though I have a second buck tag.

968
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 5: Right, just I was focused on this, dear.

969
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 6: And as we're driving down there, we drive past that

970
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 6: second betting area that I mentioned earlier, and two buzzards

971
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 6: popped out of there and we and it was right

972
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 6: along a creek that that borders that betting area, and

973
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 6: so we talked about it and we said, you know,

974
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 6: if we go in there, the main track where we

975
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 6: think this deer is is not boogered up. It's good

976
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 6: for a dog. If we go in here and this

977
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: year is not there, then I don't think we messed

978
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 6: anything up. So we literally just wanted to go in

979
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 6: and just we glassed a lot, and we were able

980
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 6: to cover a lot of this bedding area with the

981
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 6: glass instead of instead of tracking across the whole thing.

982
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 6: So I went in one side, my cousin went in

983
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 6: the other, and we like I dropped him off on

984
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 6: one side, and he walked towards the truck, and I

985
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 6: walked away from the truck, and we just this is

986
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 6: one hundred yards wide and maybe five hundred yards long,

987
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 6: so we were able to cover it pretty quick with

988
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 6: the two of us. I walked down one side, he

989
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 6: walks down the other. Neither one of us had any luck,

990
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 6: no blood, no nothing. And so I'm like, all right, well,

991
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna make my way back your way, And

992
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 6: I just took a little bit different route that's a

993
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 6: little bit closer to where he was. And he was

994
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 6: walking the edge of the creek, looking into the creek,

995
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 6: expecting a deer to be down in the in the

996
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 6: water in the creek. Bed and then he's glassing up

997
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 6: into this bedding area. At the same time, I came

998
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 6: back through more in the bedding area and I was

999
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 6: about sixty yards away and I called him. I said,

1000
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 6: all right, I didn't have any luck. I'm gonna make

1001
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 6: my way back to the truck. We'll just wait for

1002
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 6: the dog come in and go to the hit. And

1003
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 6: I hang up the phone, and thirty seconds later I

1004
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 6: look over and I'm like, that really looks like a

1005
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 6: tye with the naked eye no binoculars.

1006
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 5: And then I was like, no, that is a tie.

1007
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 6: And I put the binos up and I'm like that

1008
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 6: that's a pretty big time. And I could just see

1009
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 6: two points sticking up out of a bunch of brush

1010
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 6: and weeds, and so I angle back to where I

1011
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 6: can see a little bit better.

1012
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 5: I get my arrow I had an arrow knocked.

1013
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 6: I get my release on, not knowing if this is

1014
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 6: a dead deer, alive deer, if it's my deer, and

1015
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 6: I kind of take an angle over and I could

1016
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 6: see I could see a body that's laying down sure enough,

1017
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 6: is dead or in a door nail.

1018
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 5: And then I was like, I don't know what deer

1019
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 5: it is.

1020
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 6: And then I could see the exit hole in the

1021
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 6: in the stomach, so it was it was at that

1022
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 6: point I knew it was my deer. And then I

1023
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 6: was able to knew it was dead. Took another step

1024
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 6: and I could see those big split g two's awesome, man.

1025
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: And and then it was I mean a million pounds.

1026
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 6: Off my shoulders, right, So a lot of a lot

1027
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 6: of thought after after the shot went into how are

1028
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 6: we going to recover this deer? So we were able

1029
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 6: to do it very uneventfully without you know, wild goose chase.

1030
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you gave it time.

1031
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 5: It was awesome. We get a lot of time.

1032
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, no, man, congratulations And I think there's

1033
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot of really key lessons in that for everyone on.

1034
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: You know, you just got to be out there. You

1035
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: got to trust your gut and then if something does

1036
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: not go right, you got to give the deer time,

1037
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: especially when you know where you hit them and you

1038
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: did everything right there.

1039
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: So congratulations.

1040
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: So looking here, you know, Illinois is a two bucks state,

1041
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: so you still have a buck tag here in your pocket.

1042
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Looking from the nineteenth to the day before Thanksgiving, what

1043
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: what is top of mine?

1044
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: Here?

1045
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: Obviously are gun season kicks off this upcoming weekend. What

1046
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: what on a scale one to ten, what do you

1047
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: think the activity is going to be? And if you're

1048
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: a guy in Illinois with a tag in your pocket,

1049
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: what what?

1050
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: What do you tell that guy?

1051
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1052
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 6: I think, uh, I think I like it, probably more

1053
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 6: than most Illinois hunters. I'm pretty partial to the second

1054
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 6: third week of November as opposed to the first. And

1055
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 6: I know, trust me, we all love when that calendar

1056
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 6: turns over and and the statistics on the sixth, seventh, eighth,

1057
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 6: the ninth, And I've killed on those days more so

1058
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: I should say I've killed on the ninth. I historically

1059
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 6: on multiple farms that I've hunted, have seen more activity

1060
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 6: from the tenth through the twentieth, and then then you'll

1061
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 6: you'll get into that gun season period. And we've had

1062
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 6: some really good gun seasons down there. Even if we

1063
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 6: don't we don't harvest everything we have in mind, visual

1064
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 6: sightings just happened to uptick in that in that timeframe.

1065
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 6: My personal opinion is, and there's a lot of opinions

1066
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 6: on it, but I really think a buck is most

1067
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 6: visible when he's between dose as opposed to looking for

1068
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 6: that first one I think my opinion is that in

1069
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 6: the first week of November we see a ton of

1070
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 6: running activity, but me personally, it's mostly small bucks that

1071
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 6: that I've that I have encounters with the mature bucks.

1072
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: I think they snag those dose without much effort.

1073
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 6: I think they snag those first doze without effort, so

1074
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 6: they don't have to travel very far to get them,

1075
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 6: whereas the small bucks got to work for it in

1076
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 6: that first week and then the the second and third doze. Whenever,

1077
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 6: whenever those bucks are coming off of the first one,

1078
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 6: I think that's when they're most vulnerable. And that's whenever

1079
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 6: I've seen and or killed more of my dear I've got.

1080
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 6: I was actually just talking to a buddy about it

1081
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 6: the other the thirteenth, the fifteenth, the eighteenth, now the eleventh.

1082
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 6: Obviously I killed on the eleventh. Those are the days

1083
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 6: of my four biggest bucks, so we're heading into the

1084
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 6: backside of that period that I really like. That being said,

1085
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 6: I think that you're with the if the weather's playing,

1086
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 6: the weather plays a big factor into it. I think

1087
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 6: that's gonna matter if they rut during or if they

1088
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 6: move during the day or at night.

1089
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 5: They're gonna rut.

1090
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 6: Either way, I think coming into this gun season, I

1091
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 6: think it's gonna be pretty good. I think most of

1092
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 6: our activity has been about a week or so behind

1093
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 6: where we would normally see it. I didn't see any

1094
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 6: mature bucks start to do much running activity until I

1095
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 6: think the seventh I saw one mature buck bumping a

1096
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 6: dough not even not even.

1097
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 5: Like super interested, like hot on her tail.

1098
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 6: I'm starting to see that now, both both in the

1099
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 6: last couple of days of hunting and on my cameras too.

1100
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: So I think it's I'd be pretty.

1101
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 6: Optimistic, and I'm naturally a pretty optimistic person, but I

1102
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 6: think that depending on what the weather's going to do

1103
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 6: in different pockets. So hunting two different areas in Illinois,

1104
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 6: it's pretty crazy. It'll be a twenty degree difference from

1105
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 6: where I live to the farm down south.

1106
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: So that was one reason I went down there, is.

1107
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 6: Because it got to seventy degrees, Like it's seventy degrees

1108
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 6: down there now, and I was like, I'm gonna hunt

1109
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 6: it while it's in the forties and up here it's

1110
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 6: going to be in the fifties, so.

1111
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 5: I've got much better weather.

1112
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 6: Better weather hunting up here whenever it's seventy down there.

1113
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 6: So if that weather's doing what it's, you know, what

1114
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 6: you need it to do where you're hunting, I think

1115
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 6: there's a good chance if you're out there, if you

1116
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 6: can catch that buck between does, they're pretty vulnerable.

1117
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 5: I think that this.

1118
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 6: Buck was between dose and I saw him twice in

1119
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 6: about twenty five hours. And I saw another mature buck

1120
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 6: doing the exact same thing, did not have a dough

1121
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 6: with him, was was cruising the woods, and and I

1122
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 6: think I think there's a good chance that that this

1123
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 6: this gun season could be pretty good for for a

1124
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 6: lot of guys in Illinois.

1125
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, food or betting if you had, you know, just

1126
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: for someone that's like, okay, I still have a tag.

1127
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to hunt, maybe a boat hunt

1128
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: a couple of days here before gun season, whether it's

1129
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, Wednesday or Thursday, and then for the gun season.

1130
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: Betting, food, right place, right time, throw a doll.

1131
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, well everything situation right, yeah, both right. I like

1132
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 5: to hunt the doze right now. And I'm and and

1133
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1134
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 6: Like like hardcore got to be on the dose, but

1135
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 6: that's what he's looking for. And I like to be

1136
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 6: one big lesson that I've learned this year, and I

1137
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 6: kind of reflect and try to get better every year.

1138
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 5: I think we probably all do.

1139
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 6: And what I've realized this year is that if I

1140
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 6: have an encounter with a buck, I've got to do

1141
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 6: something similar to what he did, because he's gonna do.

1142
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 5: Something similar to.

1143
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 6: If we both do the same thing, that that deer

1144
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 6: is not gonna do the same thing two days in

1145
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 6: a row, I mean, the exact same thing.

1146
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna do something similar. He's gonna be

1147
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 5: in the area.

1148
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 6: But if if if I just go do the exact

1149
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 6: same thing, I don't I don't think I'm gonna be

1150
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 6: in the chips. And what I've decided this year is

1151
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 6: be more mobile. So I've got a saddle set up,

1152
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: I've got a hang and bang, I've got lock ons,

1153
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 6: I've got ground blinds, I've got box blinds, I've I've

1154
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 6: got I've got all the tools that I can think

1155
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 6: of to put me in the in the right spot

1156
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 6: wherever that is. I've got hang ons that are that

1157
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 6: I just think I'm gonna I want to get a

1158
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 6: visual on him and then I can make a move

1159
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 6: from there. That's That's one of my big takeaways this

1160
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 6: year is mature bucks are are not on a pattern

1161
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 6: this time of year, but they are in an area

1162
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 6: and they do kind of tend to stick to that

1163
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 6: area if they've had if they found a dough there

1164
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 6: and they've been in the area, they're gonna look in

1165
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 6: for another dough in that same area. So I like

1166
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 6: to just move around with what the wind allows me

1167
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 6: to do and what the thermals allowed me to do.

1168
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 6: And that's exactly what I did on that buck the

1169
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 6: other day. I again, I knew he was going to

1170
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 6: be in the same area. I knew we had a

1171
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 6: I knew he had a really good I knew he

1172
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 6: had a really good chance to see him again. So

1173
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 6: my job was to get in the right spot, per

1174
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 6: the wind and hope that he makes the right move

1175
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 6: and you know, all the stars aligned perfect.

1176
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: Well man, congratulations once again, and and good luck everyone

1177
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: out there with the tag still here in Illinois firearm season,

1178
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: it is an exciting time to be on the woods

1179
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: and it's just one of the its opening days is

1180
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: truly one of those days of the year where you

1181
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: just truly don't know.

1182
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: What could happen.

1183
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 4: Go to a bath, anything, anything awesome.

1184
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations once again, Shane.

1185
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, Jake, appreciate it.

1186
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Speaker 1: There you guys have I hope you enjoyed this week's

1187
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: episode of Rough Fresh. I hope you have a great Thanksgiving.

1188
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: I hope you get a chance to sneak out and

1189
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: do a little bit more dear hunting. If it is

1190
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: a firearm season for you, like it is here in

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00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: Illinois this upcoming weekend, Be safe, be a good neighbor,

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00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: be a good friend, and we'll see you next time.