WEBVTT - S1: E22 – Bodies on the Bayou, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>A talented New Orleans preacher got the job of a lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>A week later, he was dead.

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<v Speaker 3>This case was one that immediately drew my attention because

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<v Speaker 3>it was not a typical murder case.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened in the Trine months following Hurricane Katrina.

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<v Speaker 3>Absent any eyewitness and given the circumstances and the resources

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<v Speaker 3>in the city, it simply just became a cold case.

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<v Speaker 1>But the killer would strike again.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, another one.

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<v Speaker 1>One person had information that could stop the killer from

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<v Speaker 1>striking a third time.

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<v Speaker 3>He was sort of the last man standing who could

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<v Speaker 3>bring it to the authorities.

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<v Speaker 1>But could the police get to him before it was

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<v Speaker 1>too late.

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<v Speaker 4>This song is something you hear about on the TV

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<v Speaker 4>show you know, like you never think this was something

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<v Speaker 4>that would happen in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, we're in New Orleans, Louisiana, for the tragic story

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<v Speaker 1>of an aspiring preacher named Ernest Smith. I'm Sloan Glass

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<v Speaker 1>and this is part one of Bodies on the Bayou

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<v Speaker 1>on American Homicide, And just a warning that this episode

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<v Speaker 1>contains some graphic content.

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<v Speaker 2>Please take care while listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever been to New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a very special place. The historic French Quarter

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<v Speaker 1>dates back to the seventeen hundreds. Today, the city's oldest

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood is famous for its vibrant nightlife.

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<v Speaker 3>That is where you find Bourbon Street in many of

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<v Speaker 3>our most famous bars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Laura Rodrigue, she worked with the New Orleans District

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney's Office.

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<v Speaker 2>We like to eat, we like to drink.

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<v Speaker 3>There are constantly events going on, or carnivals or parades.

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<v Speaker 2>We are a city that simply likes to party.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a city that lives by the motto let the

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<v Speaker 1>good times roll, and Bourbon Street plays host to many

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<v Speaker 1>of those parties.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether it's the cuisine or the arts. So many different

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<v Speaker 3>opportunities here to explore, so many different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Where else in the world can you walk down the

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<v Speaker 1>street eating a poe boy in one hand with a

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail in the other while a jazz player strikes up

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<v Speaker 1>a song on the corner.

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<v Speaker 3>Having been somebody who has traveled elsewhere, I can say

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<v Speaker 3>that there really is no place like New Orleans Today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well over a million people from all different walks of

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<v Speaker 1>life make their home in the Big Easy.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a certain sense of camaraderie among the community.

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<v Speaker 2>They rally together.

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<v Speaker 3>They support one another, and they take a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>pride in saying that they're from New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look back at the summer of two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>five as a test of that camaraderie. That's when Hurricane

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<v Speaker 1>Katrina made landfall and left nearly eighty percent of New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans underwater.

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<v Speaker 5>Katrina slams into the Gulf willed us up to one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and twenty miles reptiles that could kill you, stop

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<v Speaker 5>go literally ripped.

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<v Speaker 6>Off the side repper part of the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>Covering the Superdome where some ten thousand people at saw Gass.

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<v Speaker 5>Station, which is basically where we've sought safety.

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<v Speaker 3>It is slowly being ripped apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Before our The city lost more than eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand homes, three hundred thousand vehicles, and eighteen hundred lives,

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<v Speaker 1>making Katrina one of the deadliest hurricanes to hit the US.

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<v Speaker 3>It truly did devastate the city of New Orleans to

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<v Speaker 3>a large extent.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, over half of its population relocated to

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<v Speaker 1>other cities.

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<v Speaker 2>After Katrina.

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<v Speaker 3>There were simply problems for everyone in the city in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of getting back into their homes. What was left

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<v Speaker 3>of the neighborhoods, So you might be living in a

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<v Speaker 3>home and you might be the only person on your block,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's scary.

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<v Speaker 2>It was scary, especially when things went wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>It really made law enforcements job a lot more difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like patrolling the street normally and knowing that

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<v Speaker 3>there were people also looking out for each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's pitch black and some of these neighborhoods where power

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't been turned on to some of the homes, if

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<v Speaker 3>the people haven't returned.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all city services in New Orleans after Katrina, the

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<v Speaker 1>police department struggled to keep up.

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<v Speaker 2>In certain neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't know how long it would take and whether

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<v Speaker 3>it was even worth it to get the police involved.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when violent crime soared.

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<v Speaker 5>Hurricane Katrina chased away more than two hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 5>in New Orleans, but criminals are coming back. Police department

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<v Speaker 5>figures show the number of murders has gone up every

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<v Speaker 5>month since the storm.

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<v Speaker 1>So now here is our story. In April of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, thirty eight year old Ernest Smith was

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<v Speaker 1>a preacher who had just moved back.

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<v Speaker 2>To his home in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Ernest's life before that move.

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<v Speaker 4>Ernest was always when never usaw he could walk into

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<v Speaker 4>a room and the first thing he has on his

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<v Speaker 4>face as a smile.

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Jackson and her husband Apostle Jackson were ministers who

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<v Speaker 1>mentored Ernest.

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<v Speaker 7>Ernest was special. He was the real deal. Ministry was

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<v Speaker 7>his heartbeat. Ministry was what he was about.

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<v Speaker 4>It ain't loved to preach. I think he would woke

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<v Speaker 4>up with a value of a microphone, be born one.

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<v Speaker 7>He was truly a man of God.

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<v Speaker 1>Life was a tough climb for Ernest, who lost both

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<v Speaker 1>of his parents at a very young age. Although he

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<v Speaker 1>was later adopted, he was always plagued by that desire

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<v Speaker 1>to fit in and belong to us.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a son, and I think he felt like

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<v Speaker 4>we went on in parents he had.

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<v Speaker 1>The church became that place where Ernest felt like he belonged.

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<v Speaker 1>But the downside of being a preacher was it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay his bills, so Ernest supplemented his income by working

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<v Speaker 1>as a truck driver. The money was good, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was often on the road and away from his wife

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<v Speaker 1>and daughter. To no one's surprise, his marriage ended up

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<v Speaker 1>in a divorce. And not long after that, a single

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<v Speaker 1>mom named Emma walked into his life.

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<v Speaker 7>She met him by going to his ministry when he

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<v Speaker 7>was preaching that song, Well, a man loves a woman,

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<v Speaker 7>That's what's Ernest's song. He really loved it, this walkman.

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<v Speaker 1>Emma and Ernest married in nineteen ninety five.

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<v Speaker 7>Emma was a perfect pastor's wife. She did everything to

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<v Speaker 7>help the church. She did whatever was necessary to make

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<v Speaker 7>sure his ministry was functioned and running.

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<v Speaker 1>Emma was also busy outside of church. She prepared taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>dabbled in real estate. She even sold beauty supplies.

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<v Speaker 4>She so whigs and all of the other things that

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<v Speaker 4>make you look girly. Yes, she would say she was

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<v Speaker 4>a jack of all trades.

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<v Speaker 2>More than that, Emma was a go getter.

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<v Speaker 1>She grew up poor and always dreamed of living the

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<v Speaker 1>glamorous life.

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<v Speaker 4>She wanted to have nice things, so she went after

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<v Speaker 4>the business world.

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<v Speaker 2>She was busy and it paid off.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year or so, Ernest and Emma would upgrade homes

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<v Speaker 1>and move into a place that was a little bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and nicer. But when Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, it forced Ernest and Emma to

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<v Speaker 1>temporarily relocate to Arlington, Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>Emma came back to New Orleans. She came back because

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<v Speaker 4>she needed to get back to her business, so Ernest stayed.

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<v Speaker 4>After she moved back here, they didn't come back together.

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<v Speaker 2>Ernest liked Arlington.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to stay because he had plans to build

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<v Speaker 1>a church there.

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<v Speaker 4>She wanted him to come back, but he was saying

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<v Speaker 4>that he didn't want to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>The battle over where to live put a strain on

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<v Speaker 1>their marriage.

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<v Speaker 7>Call us up, anyone to talk to us about the marriage.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's when we found out that someone was

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<v Speaker 7>really going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Apostle wondered whether there was more to the story, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did what any preacher would do.

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<v Speaker 7>I convinced him that he needed to get his marriage

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<v Speaker 7>another chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest took that advice and he took Emma on a

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<v Speaker 1>cruise to help rekindle their relationship and put their marriage

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<v Speaker 1>back on track. And he started looking for a full

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<v Speaker 1>time pastor job so he could spend more time at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Kime a miracle and opening at a mega church

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Ernest interviewed and landed the job.

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<v Speaker 7>Him and her was going to move to Atlanta. She

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<v Speaker 7>was going to be first lady and he was gonna

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<v Speaker 7>be pastor.

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<v Speaker 1>On the evening of April twelfth, two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest called Apostle with the good news.

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<v Speaker 7>He was already excited, like he had found a treasure.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a much needed step forward for Ernest and

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<v Speaker 1>Emma's marriage and a huge boost for his career.

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<v Speaker 7>This would have been the first time in his ministry

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<v Speaker 7>that he'd have had a ready made family ready for him.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if you ever wanted a pastor, he would

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<v Speaker 7>have been the one. He was just that gifted.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have that conversation on April twelfth, and that night,

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest and Emma took a break from packing up for

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<v Speaker 1>their big move. Emma wasn't feeling well, so Ernest planned

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<v Speaker 1>to go out for a ride on his motorcycle.

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<v Speaker 7>I said, I'll be careful out there, said I hung up.

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<v Speaker 7>Then five hours later we get the news that he's dead.

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<v Speaker 7>We will sleep and we have a good phone call

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<v Speaker 7>from Emma and she tells me. She says, Ernest is gone.

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<v Speaker 7>It's gone where And she said he's dead. That told

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<v Speaker 7>my heart up.

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<v Speaker 1>Emma was a mess. In between crying, she explained that

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest took his motorcycle for a ride and returned around

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<v Speaker 1>eleven pm. That's when someone ambushed him.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, Well, I heard three bang bang bangs, she said,

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<v Speaker 4>but I thought it was a car bag fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Emma said she was in bed with a bad toothache

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<v Speaker 1>and had taken some pain medication to help her sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>She woke up to the sound of her husband's cries

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<v Speaker 1>from downstairs.

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<v Speaker 4>He woke her up out of her sleep. He said, Babe,

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<v Speaker 4>that I've been shot.

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<v Speaker 1>When Emma came downstairs, she found Ernest collapsed on the

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<v Speaker 1>front steps of their home. His red shirt was completely

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<v Speaker 1>covered in blood.

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<v Speaker 4>So she tells us, She says, well, somebody was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to rob Ernest still his motorcycle. Somebody was trying to

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<v Speaker 4>take his bike from him. She called the police, called

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<v Speaker 4>the amber. She said, well, y'all know we living in

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<v Speaker 4>the noise. You know how long they take to get here.

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<v Speaker 4>So by the time they got here, he was already gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest Smith, the gifted preacher, who was just days away

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<v Speaker 1>from being installed at a church in Atlanta, was now

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<v Speaker 1>a casualty of the post Katrina crime wave in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time of Ernest Smith's death. The city was

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<v Speaker 3>still very much suffering after Hurricane Katrina.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Roderig worked with the New Orleans District Attorney's office.

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<v Speaker 3>The place where they were living was largely abandoned. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>they were the only people living in that apartment complex.

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<v Speaker 3>It was almost a scary place to live because you

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<v Speaker 3>had nobody around you. There weren't lights on anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest was shot twice in the chest with a nine

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<v Speaker 1>millimeter weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>There were no witnesses and no known motive.

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<v Speaker 3>His motorcycle was right there on the scene next to him.

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<v Speaker 3>The keys to the motorcycle were found in the grass

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<v Speaker 3>right nearby. Absent any eyewitness and given the circumstances and

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<v Speaker 3>the resources in the city, it simply just became a

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<v Speaker 3>cold case.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like a senseless crime that would go unsolved.

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<v Speaker 1>Then five years later, another murder in a neighboring state.

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<v Speaker 2>Brought this case.

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<v Speaker 6>Back to life.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and six, Ernest Smith was about to

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<v Speaker 1>begin his dream job as a pastor of an Atlanta church,

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<v Speaker 1>but a few days before he and his wife, Emma

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<v Speaker 1>moved there, he was gunned down in front of his

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans home. His mentor Apostle Jackson performed his eulogy.

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<v Speaker 7>The funeral was wall the wall peoples. He was standing up.

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<v Speaker 1>At the request of his devastated widow. Apostle did something

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<v Speaker 1>at the funeral he had never done before. He used

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<v Speaker 1>his eulogy to urge anyone who knew what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest to come forward.

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<v Speaker 7>I was trying to convince them that somebody need to

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<v Speaker 7>go to the police and try to find out what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It was heartbreaking for everyone, including Emma, who struggled to

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<v Speaker 1>afford the proper funeral she felt her husband deserved.

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<v Speaker 7>She was grieving. She had to borrow the money from

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<v Speaker 7>me to bury him, and when she got the insurance money,

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<v Speaker 7>she did get me my money back.

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<v Speaker 1>Even with Apostles plea at Ernest's funeral, no new leads

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<v Speaker 1>came in and his murder remained unsolved. A year later,

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<v Speaker 1>Emma started over. She moved to the tiny city of Poplarville, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about an hour north of New Orleans, and

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<v Speaker 1>built a home in the rural countryside.

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<v Speaker 7>That's one of the most beautiful houses I ever seen

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<v Speaker 7>in my life. I was a TV in every room.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm talking a big screen TV. In the bathroom. It

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<v Speaker 7>was just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a lot less expensive to live in poplar

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<v Speaker 1>Ville than it is to live in New Orleans. But

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<v Speaker 1>when Apostle and Carolyn visited Emma in her new home,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in awe.

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<v Speaker 2>The house had.

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<v Speaker 1>A swimming pool, a pond, and a boat, even a

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<v Speaker 1>state of the art security system. It was the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>home on a street called Emma Lane. But even with

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<v Speaker 1>the new house, they could still sense a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>pain with Emma. Grief can do many things to a person.

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<v Speaker 1>An Apostle's wife, Carolyn, was concerned with how thin Emma looked.

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<v Speaker 4>This is our first time seeing her at the been

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<v Speaker 4>a while, and we look at us a wow. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>she had lost a lot, a lot away.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also something else different about her. Emma Smith

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<v Speaker 1>proudly announced she was now Emma Rain. A few months earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>she had quietly married James Rain, a former military buddy

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<v Speaker 1>of her late husband. Much like Ernest, James Rain was adopted,

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<v Speaker 1>drove a truck, and was a few years younger than Emma.

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<v Speaker 1>James said he looked up to Ernest almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>big brother, and with Ernest gone, James seemed like the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect person for Emma.

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<v Speaker 4>She and I had an opportunity to just sit out

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<v Speaker 4>on the front porch, and I told her, I said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this is it. This is what Ernest always dreamed of.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what he wanted. They had a boat, the house,

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<v Speaker 4>and the big pond. You had the big elaborates house

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<v Speaker 4>on the inside, you know, so you got everything. She said, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>she's telling me how she missed him. You know, she

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<v Speaker 4>wished that he was there to enjoy all of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I wish he was here too.

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<v Speaker 1>Emma finally had the life she'd always hope to have

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<v Speaker 1>with Ernest, but it would only last a short time.

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<v Speaker 1>Five years later, in twenty eleven, Carolyn an Apostle turned

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<v Speaker 1>on the nightly news and were left speechless.

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<v Speaker 7>James had got killed.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a call, she said. She was out of town

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<v Speaker 4>on the business trip, and then that's when they found

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<v Speaker 4>him deceased. I'm like, oh my god, you know, another one.

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<v Speaker 4>It's too much. It was just too much to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>It was unbelievable. One week before James Rain's thirty eighth birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>someone broke in and shot him while he was in bed.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is like whoa, this is like way too

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<v Speaker 4>much and it's way crazy that all these husbands are dying.

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<v Speaker 1>How could someone lose their husband not just once, but

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<v Speaker 1>twice in such a cruel manner.

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<v Speaker 7>That's crazy, That's crazy. Laurad El Mercy.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Rodriig worked for the New Orleans District Attorney's office.

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<v Speaker 1>The police come out and essentially start trying to piece

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<v Speaker 1>together what happened. They learned Demo was away on a

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<v Speaker 1>business trip in Arkansas and the last she heard from

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<v Speaker 1>her husband, James, was sometime around midnight. By eleven AM,

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<v Speaker 1>she was worried.

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<v Speaker 3>Emma Rain calls James's mother and says, I can't get

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<v Speaker 3>a hold of James. Can you go check on him?

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<v Speaker 3>So James's mother goes to the home. She goes upstairs,

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<v Speaker 3>finds him shot in the head and in the neck

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<v Speaker 3>in the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>She calls the police.

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<v Speaker 1>There was nothing missing from the house. It appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be a targeted shooting, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Why it was a vacant area, There were no eyewitnesses

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<v Speaker 3>to the murder.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't a motive that was clear.

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<v Speaker 1>The police department in the quaint town of Poplarville Canvas

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood to find a lead.

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<v Speaker 3>Poplarville is sort of a small town where everybody kind

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<v Speaker 3>of knows everybody through a relative, a cousin, a friend,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody you work with. They were getting a lot of statements,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to navigate and piece together what could have happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's one thing about small towns, it's that people

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<v Speaker 1>usually know everyone else's business, and the people of Pomplarville

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<v Speaker 1>knew some dirt about James Rain.

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<v Speaker 3>The detectives learned that there had been issues of infidelity

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<v Speaker 3>with James Rain. The two of them had engaged in

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<v Speaker 3>a physical relationship for some time before Ernest Smith had

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<v Speaker 3>been killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, they were military buddies and they stayed friends.

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<v Speaker 1>The police learned James used to socialize with Ernest and Emma.

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<v Speaker 3>James Rain and him had become friends during the military,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's how they knew each other.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, James almost.

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<v Speaker 3>Looked up to Ernest Smith like a mentor, somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>he respected and would go to for advice.

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<v Speaker 1>But that friendship ended when Ernest learned what they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing behind his back.

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<v Speaker 3>He had confronted James Rain in the past and was

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<v Speaker 3>just determined to really fight for his marriage and to

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<v Speaker 3>make it work.

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest had been trying for a pastor job in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew no church would hire him if his

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<v Speaker 1>marriage was on the rocks. So up until his death,

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to fix things with Emma.

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<v Speaker 3>He was fiercely loyal to Emma Rain. He just did

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<v Speaker 3>not want to give up on their marriage. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>he had just gotten her a dozen roses right before

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<v Speaker 3>the murder.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's break this down. Emma was fooling around with

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<v Speaker 1>James while she was married to Ernest. Ernest knew about

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<v Speaker 1>the affair and confronted James. Then Ernest mysteriously got killed.

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<v Speaker 1>A year later, Emma marries James, and then five years later,

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<v Speaker 1>James was also mysteriously killed.

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<v Speaker 3>It was certainly a strange set of facts.

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<v Speaker 1>And while detectives tried to make sense of what was happening,

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<v Speaker 1>the estates that James and Emma had built in Poplarville, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>burned to the ground. Luckily no one was injured, but

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<v Speaker 1>investigators rule that that fire was arson what was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>So that again is very suspicious, very strange. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different ballgame. With two dead husbands and one

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<v Speaker 1>down house, Emma Rain's life hit rock bottom in search

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<v Speaker 1>of another clean start. She left Poplar Villain headed to Missouri,

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<v Speaker 1>where her luck was about to change. By twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>Emma Rain had buried two husbands and even lost her

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<v Speaker 1>home to a fire. Police couldn't make sense of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Across the two homicides, there were no suspects, no arrests,

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<v Speaker 1>not even so much as a lead prosecutor, Laura rod

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<v Speaker 1>Reg investigated.

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<v Speaker 3>This case was one that immediately drew my attention because

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<v Speaker 3>it was not a typical murder case. There were no

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<v Speaker 3>eyewitnesses to either murder. Nothing was adding up. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a motive that was clear, other than the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>we knew this woman's last two husbands were also found

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<v Speaker 3>dead in sort of mysterious circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>The first case had gone cold, and investigators did not

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<v Speaker 1>want James Rain's murder to reach a similar fate.

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<v Speaker 2>If they aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>Able to develop a suspect or get a lead within

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<v Speaker 3>the first couple of weeks, it's almost never going to

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<v Speaker 3>be easy to find one quickly after that.

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<v Speaker 1>But shortly after James Rain's murder, things would take a turn.

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<v Speaker 1>Late one night, James's brother received a mysterious phone call,

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<v Speaker 1>a woman's voice he did not recognize told him to

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<v Speaker 1>walk outside and check his mailbox. As cryptic as that sounded,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted answers. James's brother went to the mailbox and

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<v Speaker 1>found a thick envelope filled with documents. These documents contain

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<v Speaker 1>information about a lawsuit Ernest Smith's life insurance company had

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<v Speaker 1>filed to prevent Emma from obtaining the insurance proceeds from

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<v Speaker 1>Ernest's policy.

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<v Speaker 3>She had the insurance policy on Ernest Smith, and it

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<v Speaker 3>started at one hundred thousand, the money increasing from year

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<v Speaker 3>to year from one hundred to two point fifty all

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<v Speaker 3>the way up to eight hundred thousand. But a closer

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<v Speaker 3>look showed that just before Ernest's death, the amount was

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<v Speaker 3>increased to eight hundred thousand dollars and the beneficiary changed

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<v Speaker 3>to James Rain, which was extremely suspicious because everybody knew

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<v Speaker 3>that was her boyfriend while she was married. So it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't make any sense why Ernest Smith would allow James

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<v Speaker 3>Rain to be his beneficiary since he had clearly had

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<v Speaker 3>heated arguments asking James to stay away from his wife,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, really just did not get along with

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<v Speaker 3>James in that time period in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was more these documents also indicated that James

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<v Speaker 1>Rain had been involved in Ernest Smith's murder.

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<v Speaker 2>How was it possible that an.

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<v Speaker 1>Insurance company could put two and two together but detectives couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>If this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually true, if they actually prove this, this is shocking,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is getting really weird, especially for James Rayn's brother.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just found out that the insurance company blamed his

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<v Speaker 1>brother James for the death of Ernest Smith. So he

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<v Speaker 1>shares this with a couple of his trusted relatives, including

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<v Speaker 1>his other brother, Alfred Everett.

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<v Speaker 3>James Rain's murder leads to what we learn is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of an uneasy feeling that Alfred Everett is going through.

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<v Speaker 2>He was nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a moment where he feels like he needs

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to somebody and that he has to get

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<v Speaker 3>this off of his chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, Alfred's strange behavior concerned the group, so they did

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<v Speaker 1>something weird too. They drove him out to the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere so they could talk candidly.

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<v Speaker 3>During that conversation, Alfred Everett admits that Emma and James

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<v Speaker 3>had paid him to shoot Ernest Smith, that there was

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<v Speaker 3>a life insurance policy he was supposed to get one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand dollars from it, and that's why he shot

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<v Speaker 3>Ernest Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>After keeping this secret for five years, Albert's conscience finally

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<v Speaker 1>got the best of him and he shared what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>On April twelfth, two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>And six, Alfred Everett parked down the street again. During

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<v Speaker 3>this time, it would have been too dark for anybody

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of locate what would be considered a suspicious

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<v Speaker 3>car or.

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<v Speaker 2>Something out of the ordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred revealed he sat and waited that night for Ernest

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<v Speaker 1>to return from riding his motorcycle.

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<v Speaker 3>He runs up, he shoots, and exits the scene as

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<v Speaker 3>quickly as possible to jump in the car to head

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<v Speaker 3>back toward Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way back, Alfred said he threw the gun

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<v Speaker 1>in Lake Pontchatrain, which borders New Orleans. The bridge over

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Pontatrain is also known as the Causeway, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the world's longest continuous bridge over water.

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<v Speaker 3>Lake Pontchatrain is a very very large lake, so there

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<v Speaker 3>was really very little to no chance that we would

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<v Speaker 3>ever recover that weapon. You know, it's often speculated how

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<v Speaker 3>many weapons could possibly be at the bottom of Lake

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<v Speaker 3>Pontchatrain just to give you an idea of how massive.

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<v Speaker 2>The lake is. So let's sort through this.

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred, James Rain's brother, said he was hired by James

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<v Speaker 1>and Emma to murder Emma's first husband, Ernest Smith, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did it for a cut of Ernest's life insurance money. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Alfred claimed he had absolutely nothing to do with his

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<v Speaker 1>brother James Rain's murder.

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<v Speaker 3>The group knows they're all going to sort of make

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<v Speaker 3>a decision what to do with this information and how

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of protect Alfred to whatever extent they can,

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<v Speaker 3>but also have him acknowledge what he has done. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he was sort of the last man standing who could

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<v Speaker 3>bring it to the authorities.

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<v Speaker 1>They certainly wanted Alfred to do the right thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>they also wanted to somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>Protect him, and so they offer to help him get

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<v Speaker 3>an attorney. They advise him that he should report this

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<v Speaker 3>to the authorities, and Alfred says that he will. He

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<v Speaker 3>promises that he's going to tell the police, he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to come clean, and he's going to accept responsibility for

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<v Speaker 3>what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But Alfred never went to the police. He just disappeared,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving his relatives even more conflicted. They wondered was Alfred

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<v Speaker 1>hiding out, was he being honest when he said he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't involved in James's murder, or worse, was he killed?

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<v Speaker 3>There were so many moving parts, dead bodies, life insurance policies.

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<v Speaker 1>They were left with very little options. So the families

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<v Speaker 1>comp between a rock and a hard place. So what

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<v Speaker 1>did they do? They decided to call a detective they

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<v Speaker 1>saw on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>They see descend A.

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<v Speaker 3>Barnes on a televised episode of a case that she

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<v Speaker 3>had handled a cold case in New Orleans, and decide

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<v Speaker 3>to randomly reach out to her in the New Orleans

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<v Speaker 3>Police Department.

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<v Speaker 8>Relatives of James Rayne came to police headquarters after seeing

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<v Speaker 8>me on a Channel six news.

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<v Speaker 1>James's brother and uncle were impressed by how detective Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>cracked an unrelated cold case, and they felt she was

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<v Speaker 1>the person to help them.

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<v Speaker 8>They had recently learned about the brother being involved, Alfred Everett,

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<v Speaker 8>and as soon as they tried to give him the

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<v Speaker 8>opportunity to come forward and to speak to the authorities,

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<v Speaker 8>and when he refused, they they had to, I guess

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<v Speaker 8>take matters in their own hand, and they had to

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<v Speaker 8>advise the authorities of what they were able to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>They handed over the insurance documents that mysteriously mound up

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<v Speaker 1>in the mailbox of James Rayne's brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that, how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And then they shared Alfred Everett's confession with Detective Barnes.

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<v Speaker 2>That could not have been easy.

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of witnesses come forward after they family members

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<v Speaker 8>are murdered, and I guess they feel for that family

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<v Speaker 8>and now they can put their self in that family shoes,

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<v Speaker 8>so that allows them to, I guess, have a come

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<v Speaker 8>to Jesus moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Prosecutor Laura rodrig worked with Detective Barnes.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember to Senda and I kind of sitting down

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<v Speaker 3>and being like, whoa, you know, it was just not

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<v Speaker 3>your typical case.

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<v Speaker 2>No way wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the New Orleans PD reopened the murder investigation

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<v Speaker 1>have Emma Rain's first husband, Everett Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as she sat down with them and they

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<v Speaker 3>gave her the information and she was able to pull

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<v Speaker 3>the cold case file, it was very obvious to her.

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<v Speaker 2>That this was making sense and wait for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Once everything came into focus, the police would find another victim.

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<v Speaker 2>He was tragically hit by a vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a growing fear that there were more.

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<v Speaker 3>This was somebody who had no regard for human life

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<v Speaker 3>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And it will all hinge on finding Alfred Everett.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a murder for hire, you know, somebody killing

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<v Speaker 3>husbands to make a living.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm slung Glass. In the surprising conclusion of Bodies on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bayou, we'll and cover all the secrets behind the

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<v Speaker 1>murders of Ernest Smith and James Rain.

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<v Speaker 2>She gets the phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>She learns that James is dead, hopped some champagne and

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<v Speaker 3>had set thanks to celebrate.

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