WEBVTT - Glee Crossover with Brian Baumgartner 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.519 And That's what you Really missed with Jenna. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.160 And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:13.480 Welcome to and That's what You Really miss Podcast. Today 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:19.319 we have an actor a friend from another hit show 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:24.119 and it's a very meta thing where our worlds have 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:29.000 collided multiple times. Kevin, you were on the Office as 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:29.960 the pizza. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.839 Guy, that's right, and then there was an episode of 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:38.800 Glee featured in an Office episode, so a very weird 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.200 meta crossover. But that's what makes The Office the incredible 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.080 show that it is because they're down to do that. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.880 And today we have Brian Bob Gardner from the Office, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:53.199 who played even weirder Kevin. So there's a lot of 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.600 strange ties we have all together and. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.440 He's just like the best storyteller ever, so. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.640 Oh my god, the best We go on off the rails. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.440 We just talked about whatever, which is great. And he 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.320 has a new cookbook out which we also talk about, 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.240 which is going to make you starving. It made Kevin starving, 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.000 made me starving. I have to go eat now. But 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:19.000 this from the Office, Brian bomb Gardner. Hello, it's so 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.720 good to see you. Thanks for coming on to our 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:21.479 show this time. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:22.440 Welcome. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.399 It's my pleasure to be here. How are you guys? 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.880 Good? Thank you so good to see you. Well, welcome 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.280 to the show. We're happy, We're so excited to have you. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.319 We want to talk about all things office in Glee 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:41.600 and Glee office and your cook and your cookbook. I mean, 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.559 I just want to know how you got your start 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.880 in acting, since you got to hear about us and 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:46.680 we're starting now. 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.600 Now, hold on a second, I do want to ask 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.279 a question. I want to I'm taking over this interview. Great, 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:58.200 we discussed Glee on the office. Yes, did you ever 0:01:58.320 --> 0:01:59.919 discuss the office on Glee? 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:02.240 I don't think so. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.600 Mm hmm. Did you not want ratings? 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:07.800 We definitely wanted. 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.680 We definitely needed them after the first couple of season. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.680 You know, that would have cost us, you know, and 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.000 we already cost a lot. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.880 I don't know. Did we pay you to mention you? No? 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.160 No, no, But on your episode, our producer told us 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.160 the Glee episode we were one of your most expensive 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.000 episodes the viewing party because you had to pay for 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.360 all the rights to use the Glee clips and things. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.920 That's what I was wondering. We had we had to 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.680 we had to pay, Yes, we. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.440 Had to pay. Yes, you had to pay for the rights. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.600 You had to pay the actors, you had to pay music. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:50.720 Yeah. Do you know I heard a story. God, I've 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.400 never told I've been I talked all the time, and 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.360 I have never told this. I believe this is true. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.560 That's exactly how we want a story to start. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.840 Let me, this is my recollection, okay. Was that there 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:09.760 was an episode of the Office and we wanted to 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:16.440 use John Mayer's song My Body is a Wonderland. Yeah right, okay, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.240 I've gotten the first part right. And someone I'm not 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:25.200 even gonna mention who someone was friends or friendly with John. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.119 John said no. John said no because he was afraid 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.720 that it was we were going to make fun of him, right, 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:39.360 And we explained, I guess pitched what the thing was, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:41.240 and he let us use it for free. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:44.080 Interesting. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.440 Yeah, see, when you're the one that owns the thing, right, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.000 then you can do that, right, you know. Uncle Rupert 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.640 Murdoch was never going to allow that. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.160 To happen, Uncle Rupy. 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.080 Uncle Rupy was like, show me those coins. 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.720 Uncle Ruby, didn't I have? Oh my god, now this 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.360 I have not this I have not told because this 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.600 happened yesterday. And Brett, if you're listening if you're a 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.520 Glee fan, if you're a fan of these guys and 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.560 you're listening, I guess try me back. My phone rang yesterday. Now, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.240 I don't ever, Jenna, I have your information in my 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.200 phone from like ninety seven years ago. I have ever 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.839 deleted any information. That's just the thing. I'm like, well, 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:31.080 maybe I'll need to talk to yes exactly, fifth grade teacher. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:40.080 My phone rang yesterday and it said Brett Dash Steve Miller. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.920 Now at the time, don't know if this is true 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.160 or not. This has not been told. Brett was the 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:52.240 manager of the Steve Miller band. Okay, Kevin's band in 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:58.719 the Office was scripted to be a Steve Miller tribute 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:05.720 band jo Hokers, and he said no, or said it's 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.880 nine hundred million dollars or what actual it was said? 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.600 It was no. So the very first time that Kevin's 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:17.600 band appears in the in the show we had shot it. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:23.279 I played the drums to the very first time. I 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.880 think it was sent to Jim and Pam as like 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:32.000 a tryout, I want to play your wedding or no, no, no, no, sorry, 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.200 Pam and Roy, Pam and Roy, Pam and Roy. But 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.360 Pam and Jim were reviewing it. That's a weird deal. 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.520 That's another day. It was me playing Jokers and Tokers 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:46.160 and they had edited over me singing a police song. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.000 Don't remember which one it was because it got changed 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.919 to scrant Nicity a police cover band because Steve Miller 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.440 said no. I then met Brett at a Steve Miller 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.960 concert told him the story and he was like, what 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.920 the fuck what are you talking about? I never heard 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.480 this is his manager. I've never heard this. It has 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.680 to be And I'm like, dude, it's this is I mean, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:10.440 we're now in season four, it's done. It is now 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.520 a police cover band. He called me yesterday. I don't 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.960 know if it was a butt dial. I guess he 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:16.960 doesn't delete. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.400 His numbers him right speaker. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.560 He didn't leave a message. I have no idea why 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:28.640 he was calling. And I meant to google, like Steve 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.280 Miller in Los Angeles this week, kid just see if 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.280 he was like wanting to get a beer or something. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:38.840 I don't know, but that is and wants a new 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:43.719 book a book, yes, new book? All right? Sorry, that 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.080 was story Time with Brian. It's a new segment. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.480 But you know, I just think it shows like those 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.720 things happened with like those weird things would happen all 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.160 the time, and you forget because they happened every single day. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.400 Where those weird things where you're like going up against 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.080 the Steve Miller band and then you lose the rights 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.640 to it and you move on to the next day whatever, 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.840 you forget about it. And I think people, it's so 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.720 great to be able to like reach into the recesses 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.280 of your mind and bring those things up, because we 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.120 would get so desensitized to those things happening, say another 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:18.360 day at the office. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.840 Our artists said no, another artist said no, another order said. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.720 No, yeah, or it's never you know, I never found 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.360 out like is it no, or is it like again 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:34.800 ten million dollars, like ten million dollars or whatever. So 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.160 we paid you. Interesting apparently that. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.600 We just found that out about ten minutes ago, because 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.320 apparently how it goes is they wanted to use a 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.160 really current episode of Glee, but Fox said you can't 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.680 air unaired stock stuff. Yet, you can't use that, and 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:56.440 so they had to use an older episode and for 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.960 any people they showed in the clip, they had to 0:07:59.000 --> 0:07:59.720 pay them for it. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:01.640 Guys got checks. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:03.800 Well, I don't know if. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:04.480 We were in it. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:05.400 Yeah, I don't know. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.560 Whoever was shown in it got a check. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.559 Of course they did. I never thought about that. Yeah, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.120 damn it, you guys couldn't throw me in. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.680 I got check from the office exactly. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.000 We should have just thrown you in a clip. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.680 Here's a I really wanted to be brought back somehow 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.240 on the office during that whole period, because there was 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.200 some weird meta thing happening. I was like, look, you should. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.480 We kept running into each other at Emmy's parties. It's like, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.440 how like, hey, mindy write me back into this, Like, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.559 come on, you hired me the first time. The boy 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:42.400 was very popular. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.199 I have to say, sometimes you recognize, like we be 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.200 together and Kevin would get recognized for the office and 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.400 I'd be standing right next to him and like they 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:51.640 wouldn't mention me at all. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.160 It's almost a different it's a different demographic. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:56.520 Yeah it is. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:14.560 Yeah. It happens at like straight places, a brewery, sports bar. Yes, 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.360 I was leaving a restaurant last year. I was at 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:28.360 BJ's Classic VJs. The yeah, this guy several tables over 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.240 yells across. I loved you in the office, and I 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.520 was so shocked. It was like the Office. It's like, 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.640 oh god, because yeah, it doesn't happen like quite as 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.400 much as Glee, but every time I does, like yes, 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.679 I did one episode. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.760 Still, like demographic was so varied, especially on tour, like 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.679 we got to go on a world tour. We got 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.640 to see the demo and it was like, I mean, 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.600 from child to senior citizen, it really ran again. But 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:58.160 like was your audience more specific or did you guys 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.520 feel like the same kind of it was a phenomenon, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:02.720 so everybody was watching. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.640 I mean, well, I mean I think we've talked about 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.280 this a little bit before, but I mean our thing 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.600 was and I mean prepare for like standard stock answer, 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:19.040 but like actually true, like we were we were a 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.960 big hit on the NBC when we were gigantic, but 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:30.000 we weren't. But we weren't friends, we weren't Seinfeld. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:35.520 even cheers like we were. It was always sort of 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:40.080 perceived as being like Culty different if you know, you know, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:46.560 kind of a thing until we the last five years. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.640 Then it like I I say, I think we're the 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.040 first show in the history of television that literally got 0:10:54.120 --> 0:11:00.120 bigger years after it was on And now It's like 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.720 I haven't seen the syllabuses at junior high and high schools, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:09.400 but it seems like it's required viewing now, like everybody 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.760 does for sure. But I was gonna ask you guys 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.800 if you do this because you talked about demographic, which 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:20.480 never really occurred to me about Glee. But I envisioned 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:25.559 myself when I walk into a BJS, for example, as 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.640 one does, as one does, as one does as one 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.760 sorry BJS, as one hasn't in probably fifteen years. But 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:40.640 when I would, my eyes are like the old Terminator movies. Yes, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:45.120 where I walk in and I'm like threat threat threat 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:46.800 threat threats. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.600 Okay, back to the office. I want to know if 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:03.599 Kevin was on Glee, if your character was on our show. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:15.920 What would he sing? Well, I guess a police song, Miller, 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.480 I guess, I guess rock Sanne. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.200 We know the police, clear we did. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.400 The police too are a good one. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:32.360 The so, by the way, this is but I know 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.720 you have a lot of fans who are musically inclined. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.360 This is how it was explained to me. I don't 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:44.360 sing clearly, very very well, but I was explained to 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:49.440 me this is the nerdiest writer's room joke of all time. Okay, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.440 here's how it was explained to me. If you guys 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.240 want to edit or explain it, better please do. The 0:12:55.280 --> 0:13:03.640 police has a beat that is the drum beat. However, 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:12.440 the singing the vocals are lie on a different beat 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:18.840 than the drum beat. So Kevin being the lead singer 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:25.000 and drummer of a police cover band means he is 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.800 a musical savant. That was I was there once they 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.000 settled on the police. That is what they settled on. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.760 That they were making. That the joke that was never 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.920 explained or never known. But this is how it was 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.480 explained to me. Because I was like, this does rock 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.640 me playing rocks? They're like, yeah, it's impossible to do that, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.680 and I'm like, what do you what do you mean that? 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:47.200 Uh? 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.920 Riker's from joke. That is why we settled on me 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.040 being a drummer lead singer of love. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:54.840 That's very funny. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.400 I really like that. Okay, good, Okay good. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.480 I also don't play the drum. Don't know. If you 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:06.920 guys are aware, and people consistently come up and talk 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.520 to me about you know, they'll start saying anything drum 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.400 related and I have no clue what they're talking about 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:23.240 but another story, this story time, I said, so I did, 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.160 as Jen at least knows I play golf. I play 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:30.600 a lot of golf. And I played in Alice Cooper's 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:35.479 who was a big golfer charity golf event in Arizona. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.560 And I got picked up from the airport by someone 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.320 with his in his foundation. We're driving back. I will 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.720 never forget this moment. And he said, I'd never done 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:49.720 this event before, and I'd never met Alice personally. He said, okay, 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:56.000 so you know tonight really low stress. I wish I 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.560 could remember who they are because you guys would know. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:03.000 But I know, like Tommy Thayer from Kisses There, you know, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:11.000 big Eagles guy, guy who wrote Hotel California, Alice Cooper 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.840 obviously in all these musicians, uh Adrian Young from No Doubt, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.040 and they had sort of assembled an all star band 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.000 and they were going to like play a concert before 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.560 golfing the next day. And he goes, so, no pressure, Alice. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.800 The last song he wants to sing is schools Out 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.560 for Summer. So before right before that song, if you'll 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.720 come up and you'll play the drums, oh on schools 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.960 Out for Summer. You know, everyone's gonna come up and 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.400 do a part, and I go, I'm like in the 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.000 backseat in the car like a mini van, and I'm like, 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.760 I don't play the drums. And all I can think 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.520 is Alice Cooper, like, let's bite the head off a rat, like, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.600 let's like destroy something that I'm going to make him 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.960 mad before I've ever met him. And I'm like and 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.360 they're like, no, no, no, seriously, it's it's fine. It's like 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.920 and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, for real, I 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:07.000 cannot do this. This is not this is not something 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.800 that I can accomplish. And by the end it was 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:15.120 me playing drums on the show. But it was but 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.440 it went well. The first one was a no was 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.800 there was a there was a curtain and there was 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.280 a drummer right behind me, and I was faking. I 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.280 had pads on the drums. I was. You weren't hearing 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.800 anything that I was doing. Eventually I was. But this 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.800 would be like four days of rehearsals to get the 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.960 basic moves down for a song, like we're doing this 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.480 song for these four songs. Yeah, and so that would 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:41.840 be like twelve days of me. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.920 Rehearsal you're not whipping up a song with Alice Cooper 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:46.280 and all these like rock legends. 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.760 I can't know. And today today even a song I 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.520 played on that, no Chance, no Chance, no. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:59.320 Chance, funny yeah, memory, Yeah. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.280 Exactly, Kevin, you know something about that. People have already 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.840 seen you play the bass though, right. I already played 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:05.560 the bass. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.840 On that and the guitar and the bass the first 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.920 season locally, and then luckily at some point they gave 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.080 that up because it's like I, first of all, do 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.000 not know how to do that, and then I'd spend 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.720 so much time. No, yeah, I had taken lessons growing up. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.680 It never stuck that no, but no, no, no no, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.359 I was like you when I'm like, I took lessons 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.600 growing up. I went for like two weeks and learned 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.240 two chords type of thing. When I was like ten, 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.760 I have zero ability to play the guitar, and yeah, 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.160 they had me do it and the pilot I did. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.000 Don't stop believing. And all I and poor guy who 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.560 was teaching me to or he was like an excellent 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:52.000 and incredible guitar player, and he looked like he had 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.440 never taught someone before and was like really confused about 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.240 what was going on because I was like, I don't 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.920 actually need to know how to play. This guy, he told, 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:03.600 because he wanted me to like play. I'm like, no, no, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.520 doesn't have to be like that good. I just need 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.000 to look like it. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.280 Yeah, so they did. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.080 Your music live for this band. You shot that live 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.200 me your music because like if somebody's playing behind you, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:18.480 they're gloring sound. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.760 Yeah, they were a recording sound. Yeah. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:21.200 Wow. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.840 Never went And in fact, I will say this of 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:28.159 all of the because I ended up doing a bunch 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.720 of songs actually by the end all told, I mean, 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:36.320 I don't know, you know, there were a couple iterations 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.320 of the band that happened. I mean, eventually I started 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:41.280 playing with Ed Helms and Craig Robinson, who if you 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.720 know either of them, they are musical geniuses. And that's 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.760 an exaggeration, both of them. Oh wow, yeah, play everything 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.480 and like he is a can harmonize like a motherfucker 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:57.959 is singing. Yeah, but I mean like he's playing in 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.760 concerts on the banjo, which is not an easy instrument, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.480 and he can play everything. Craig, if you hum him 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:09.000 a tune of a song he's never heard before, he 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:10.960 can start playing it on the piano. This is not 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:16.000 a joke. Greg Craig Robinson like, so I'm like, hey, guys, 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.200 when are we gonna I'm like, I'm like a nerdy 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.879 no no pun intended, the nerdy high school kid, like, hey, guys, 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.200 when don't we get to practice? And they're like, yeah, yeah, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.960 we got it, And I'm like, no, I don't have it. Actually, 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:29.680 I don't have it at all. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:33.960 It's so unfair being around people like that. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:39.440 Yeah, no, I know, but yeah, I mean, look, I 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.359 don't have to do it anymore. I don't have to 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:43.720 sing anymore. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:45.920 You never know. 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.080 I I talk sing with the best of them. I 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:54.479 can carry a tune, but I can't like sing sing. 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.280 Yeah yeah, yeah, neither can It's okay. 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.040 We never had to do it live, so never you 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:03.600 never had to do it lot, Yes we did. 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.440 We recorded a handful of seven hundred songs, a handful live. 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.479 Seven I recorded maybe three of my songs live, but 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.480 that's because there was acting involved, so like the sound 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:17.120 was important. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.000 I didn't want in the pilot and that was it. 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.000 They go, oh, he needs some help, so we're not 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:21.760 going to do that again. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.200 The only the only one that I did not out 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.680 of all of mine was because Steve Miller said no, 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.760 I sang the Steve Miller Live and then they brought 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:37.640 me in they because that was early too, they brought 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:41.119 me in, Yeah, and I recorded whatever we sang for 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:42.120 that I can't even remember. 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:43.040 What it was, and they said no. 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.760 When we came on your show, we talked about how 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.480 we got into all of this miss because obviously these 0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:01.760 shows were life changing for all of us here, and 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.520 your show is life changing for me in a number 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:07.439 of ways as well. But how did how did all 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:11.120 of that happen? Was it just the normal audition? 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:15.320 Yeah? So look, I I mean, I think the thing 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.040 that you know, and as I've talked to you guys, 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:23.720 as I have, you know, talked to someone's we're like 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.200 over two hundred guests. Now, I feel like I'm I 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.760 can say that I'm unique in the sense that I 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:40.120 truly never thought about film and television, Like I really didn't. 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:45.399 And it wasn't like an aspirational thing like I can't 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.720 ever do that. I'm from Georgia and how could that 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.600 ever happen? It wasn't that. It just truly, and I 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:55.239 know this sounds dumb, it just wasn't a thought I 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:59.480 just I didn't. I did it like, oh, that's that's 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.359 what I want to do. So I did a theater 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:08.840 as as I call it an activity, right, like, I'm 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.240 good at this. I'm going to do this for a while. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.480 And then I went to this program at Northwestern University 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.719 between my junior and senior year. It's called the Something, 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:24.000 but they call them the Chair Cherub Program. And it's 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:26.840 only one summer between junior and senior year of high school. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.600 And you go and it's I don't know, six eight 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.359 weeks and you're there at Northwestern University. So for me, 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.560 this is like, okay, wait, I'm a high school student. 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.840 Now I'm in a dorm. I'm getting independence for the 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:46.160 first time. Great time to be in Chicago in the summer. Yeah. 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:51.359 But I suddenly it was like my brain was opened 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:56.360 and I was like, oh, oh, this is like creating 0:22:56.400 --> 0:23:01.280 a character and actions and objectives. Oh, it's not just 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:05.200 about having good instincts and being loud. It's oh I Oh, 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.800 I like this. And it was sort of in and 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.719 around there that I was like, Okay, this is what 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:11.560 I want to do. And I went to college for it. 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.680 I went to SMU and Dallas conservatory training program there 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:20.080 and and then started doing theater and truly thought that's 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:24.200 what my life was like. And I was doing big houses, 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:29.960 regional theater houses, the Guthrie and Berkeley rep and uh, 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:31.760 you know, so forth and so on around the country 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.919 and some of New York and and then it was 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:40.920 it was just an idea. Theater is hard one. It's 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.600 one of earlier and you have eight shows a week, 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:46.720 you have Mondays off, no one has it off. It's 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:51.000 very hard. It's just a very difficult life. And I 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:56.359 had had a weird friend, uh, not a weird friend. 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.760 I had had a a weird trip with a friend 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.640 that sounds weird too, a friend who was in LA 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:10.520 and I visited and kind of oddly, I mean, being 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.440 from the East Coast, I say oddly fell in love 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:17.119 with it. Like I was like, oh this is nice. 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.600