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Speaker 1: It's the son of a butcher. Pop. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Claude Harmon. This week, we've got Ryan Chrysler back on

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Speaker 1: the pod and or see I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: kind of game planning and coming up with a strategy

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Speaker 1: it's a good story. It's kind of a teachable moment.

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Speaker 1: We just went through this with Mingbo Jang. I'm probably

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Speaker 1: pronouncing his last name the wrong way, but I've been

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Speaker 1: working with Mingbo for about four years and he just

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Speaker 1: won the Florida State High School one A Championship two

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Speaker 1: rounds sixty eight, sixty eight. But we kind of went

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Speaker 1: through before he played. And the golf course that they

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Speaker 1: play the state championship in Orlando mission in right.

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Speaker 2: The l Campion course for the boys.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and it's the same golf course. It's a

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Speaker 1: very very Yeah, it's a funky golf course.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's no other course in Florida like it. It's

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Speaker 2: which is very rare for Florida, super rare for Florida.

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Speaker 2: So kids too in the freak ad and hate it

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Speaker 2: because it looks so different than what they're kind of

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Speaker 1: Right, So one of the things that we did was

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Speaker 1: sit Mingbo down beforehand and say, listen. You know he'd

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Speaker 1: been winning some tournaments. I told him, I think you're

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Speaker 1: right because of the way you've been playing, because you've

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Speaker 1: become a better player. And I said, I think we're

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Speaker 1: also at a stage in your golfing career to where

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Speaker 1: we can actually focus on how to play the golf

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Speaker 1: your golf swing's in a good space, the mechanics are good.

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Speaker 1: We're kind of past that. Yeah, I mean, we're always

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Speaker 1: going to be working on his golf swing, but I

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Speaker 1: think we were at a stage to where we could say, listen,

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Speaker 1: let's game plan the golf course. So the strategy that

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Speaker 1: we had for that was a strategy that you used.

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Speaker 1: How many years are earlier with Garrett Barber.

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Speaker 2: So Garrett Barber another player we coached for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, I won the Stay tied on this same

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Speaker 2: course sixty nine to sixty five. This course has like

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Speaker 2: a tournament every week, so there's Q school there. The

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Speaker 2: State championship is always there for the State of Florida,

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Speaker 2: so I've got a ton of research player experience. I've

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Speaker 2: have great success there because it's not an ordinary Florida course.

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Speaker 2: It's a course that I used to kind of play

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Speaker 2: intimidating visually intimidating for sure at eye level, but when

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Speaker 2: you look at it from high above GPS wise, you

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I think was interesting that you

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Speaker 1: we talked to Mingo. There are holes on that golf

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Speaker 1: course that, in tournament conditions, if you make a par

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Speaker 1: you're gaining massively against the field. But there's also holes

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Speaker 1: real world experience that we just helped a player win.

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Speaker 1: He's senior, he's going to play Division one college golf

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Speaker 1: at the University of Southern California. He just basically hit

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Speaker 1: Right the dream that's a big goal for a high

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Speaker 1: So how can we gain plan at home and talk

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Speaker 1: me through what you kind of did for Garrett, Barbara.

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Speaker 1: Garrett went on, he was a high school golfer at

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Speaker 2: Right, that was basically as caddy for the week. From

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Speaker 2: send me the population how they play this particular course.

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Speaker 2: So we got basically this is not like the straight

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Speaker 2: up handicap assignments for the holes. We got the actual

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Speaker 2: plays the course and see where we can make some

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Speaker 2: we had that kind of data going into it. Which

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Speaker 1: Another good thing at your home course talk to your

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Speaker 1: and it's a term that we use auto par. Right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So one example is like number eleven here at

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Speaker 2: You know the second SHOT's really does second shot because

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Speaker 1: It's just a hard par four to where listen, making

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's not the number one handicap on the scorecard,

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Speaker 2: it's okay to make a bogie there. So that type

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Speaker 2: in terms of mindset, bogies are not going to hurt

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Speaker 1: And you know, the auto power concept. You know, I

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Speaker 1: A tour player is going to look at the par

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Speaker 1: the par fives, I think you give yourself more chances

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Speaker 1: By not trying to birdy them, you give yourself more

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Speaker 2: And a good story with mission in in the state title.

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Speaker 2: so that's where you have to lay way better so

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Speaker 2: you have enough room to clear the trees on the

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Speaker 2: second shot.

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Speaker 1: And I think everybody listening their home course will have

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Speaker 1: a couple of holes that they always tend to struggle on. Yep. Right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you just don't like the way it looks. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a visual thing. Maybe it's a shape thing to

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Speaker 1: where it's a dog leg from left to right and

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Speaker 1: you like to hit draws and there's no room to

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Speaker 1: kind of draw it into the fairway, or you hit

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Speaker 1: fades and the fade won't really work. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's where you want to try and look at those

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Speaker 1: kind of nemesis holes that everybody has on their home course.

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Speaker 1: Like I think most people listening will say, I've got

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Speaker 1: a hole on my golf course where I say, you know,

449
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Speaker 1: I pick up my mail in the right rough because

450
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Speaker 1: I hit it into the right raff every single time,

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Speaker 1: or I come up short of this green every single time.

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Speaker 1: So trying to figure out why. Yeah, obviously some of

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Speaker 1: that will be technique base golf, swing based mechanics and

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Speaker 1: things like that, but I think a lot of it

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Speaker 1: is going to be strategy and game planning. Yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: And another thing with eighteen Birdie's is they have the

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Speaker 2: green hate maps.

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Speaker 1: Yep, right on there. It kind of shows you where

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Speaker 1: kind of the slopes are. And so I think once

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Speaker 1: you start to do this visually, you're getting into the

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Speaker 1: playing of the game, yes, and you're thinking, Okay, where

462
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Speaker 1: do I want to hit it as opposed to where

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Speaker 1: am I trying to not hit it? And I think

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Speaker 1: game planning and having a strategy like this is also

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Speaker 1: a very very good way to get you in the

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Speaker 1: headspace of saying, Okay, what is it? What is my

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Speaker 1: intent on this whole? What am I trying to do?

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Speaker 1: Off t what am I trying to do? Into the

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Speaker 1: approach shot and things like that, And I think when

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Speaker 1: you get into that mindset of having a plan, having

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Speaker 1: a purpose, then I think intent becomes much easier to

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Speaker 1: control and to do.

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Speaker 2: And just a good example again of seeing this from

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Speaker 2: a GPS ten thousand foot view, this green complex is

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Speaker 2: really tough water both sides, and the green slopes heavily

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Speaker 2: from back to front. So if you attempt going at

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Speaker 2: this green in two, it's a really hard shot. Number

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Speaker 2: one hard shot to pull off. Number two. If you

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Speaker 2: happen to this either short, left, right, or long, you

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Speaker 2: are essentially screwed. So we had Garrett laid up look

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Speaker 2: at this to one hundred yards basically both days, and

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Speaker 2: this guy hits it three twenty off the tee and

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Speaker 2: he decided to lay up both days because you put

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Speaker 2: it to about one hundred yards out, you can hit

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Speaker 2: a wedge on the green, especially with at his skill level,

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Speaker 2: but you avoid that huge mistake of trying to be

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Speaker 2: greedy on the second shot of the day to start

488
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Speaker 2: your out. It's just a great classic hole of what

489
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Speaker 2: we're trying to get these guys to learn to listen

490
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Speaker 2: to the podcast is what you see from eye level,

491
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Speaker 2: what you see from the yardage you're playing at may

492
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Speaker 2: not match up from a population, and how they play

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Speaker 2: the hole and what it looks like from ten thousand

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Speaker 2: feet up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like that app and I like the

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Speaker 1: fact that you know, Arcos has an app to that

497
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Speaker 1: does the kind of the same thing. You can take

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Speaker 1: the overview of your golf course. It's going to give

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Speaker 1: you that kind of GPS view, but then you can

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Speaker 1: kind of toggle to where like, let's say, how far

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Speaker 1: do you carry your driver right? And if you let's

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Speaker 1: say you've got bunkers off the tee right, left and right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you've got to look at Okay, what is the yardage

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Speaker 1: that will keep me from getting into those bunkers right right?

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Speaker 1: Because that's what we do on tour. Right, we're looking

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Speaker 1: at holes, and the caddies will have, you know, their detailed,

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Speaker 1: detailed yardage books, and the players will be saying, hey,

508
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Speaker 1: what's it to carry the bunkers and what's it to

509
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Speaker 1: lay up short? And so a lot of times kaddies

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Speaker 1: will say, yeah, listen, it's like two ninety five to

511
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Speaker 1: carry those bunkers. So downwind we can carry those all day.

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Speaker 1: But into the wind, that's a little bit of a push.

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Speaker 1: So okay, what is it to lay short of these bunkers?

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to game plan to take trouble out

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Speaker 1: of play, meaning give myself a good idea of Okay,

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Speaker 1: to hit it into that water, I would have to

517
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Speaker 1: hit the golf ball x amount of distance. So to

518
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Speaker 1: not hit it in the water, one of the easiest

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Speaker 1: ways to do that is just take a club that

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Speaker 1: is going to take the water out of play. So

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Speaker 1: that was the thing that that Mingbo said was really

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Speaker 1: important for him. The game plan and the strategy that

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Speaker 1: we had got him staying away from the trouble because

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Speaker 1: there was a specific plan to where the plan was, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're game planning this to try and keep you away

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Speaker 1: from the danger spot, to try and keep you away

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Speaker 1: from a bunker that you could hit it in. That's

528
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Speaker 1: tough to get up and down from a pin position

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Speaker 1: that you don't even aim at because of the way

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Speaker 1: the green works. And I just think so many people

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Speaker 1: go out and play golf or see with just not

532
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Speaker 1: one thought in their head about how they're actually going

533
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Speaker 1: to play the game that day. It's just golf. Swing

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Speaker 1: golf swing, golf swing mechanics, mechanics, mechanics, see the only

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Speaker 1: sport that does it. There's no sports. So like if

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Speaker 1: right now in the US we're in football season, think

537
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Speaker 1: about going out and having you know, a football coach

538
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Speaker 1: is going to stand there with a giant laminated you know,

539
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Speaker 1: play calls of plays that they can call, and then

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Speaker 1: he's looking at the game. He's figuring out what is

541
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Speaker 1: happening in the game. They're trying to figure out is

542
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Speaker 1: the run game working really well. They'll keep running run plays.

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Speaker 1: If the run plays are running well, that open up

544
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Speaker 1: the passing place if the quarterback gets hurt and they

545
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Speaker 1: have to bring in a second string quarterback that doesn't

546
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Speaker 1: have a great arm, that's a Plan B strategy. So

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Speaker 1: they're not going to be taking a lot of deep

548
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Speaker 1: shots downfield. They're going to be doing a lot of

549
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Speaker 1: dump offs, check downs to try and get some confidence

550
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Speaker 1: and things like that. And I think if you could

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Speaker 1: look at other sports, yes, and think, okay, all the

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Speaker 1: other sports, the team sports that everybody that's listening, if

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Speaker 1: you follow team sports, and you think about whatever sport

554
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Speaker 1: that is, American football, European football, soccer, rugby, cricket, tennis.

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Speaker 1: Your tennis players have a you know, they can talk

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Speaker 1: to their coaches. Now professional tennis players, the coaches can

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Speaker 1: talk to them, so they're shouting out strategy. They're telling

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Speaker 1: them what to do. They're saying, go to the foehand, more,

559
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Speaker 1: go to the forehand, more set up more opportunities here

560
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Speaker 1: and there. So all of the sports that everyone listening watches,

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Speaker 1: think about everything. As a fan, you expect from your team.

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Speaker 1: You expect them to have a really good strategy. You

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Speaker 1: expect them to know what the opponent's strengths and weaknesses

564
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Speaker 1: are and stuff like that. If you follow, you know,

565
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Speaker 1: Real Madrid, Man United, the Dallas Cowboys, the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 1: You expect those teams and those coaches of those teams

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Speaker 1: every time they play. You expect them as a fan

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Speaker 1: to have a good game plan. And how many times

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Speaker 1: are seed you You know, when we listen to other

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Speaker 1: sports at the end of the game, when they interview

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Speaker 1: the coaches or at halftime, what do they say. If

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Speaker 1: they're going in at halftime, they'll be saying, listen, we've

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Speaker 1: got to make some adjustments. This is what's working. But

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Speaker 1: we can't keep leaving ourselves. We can't keep making these mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Got to execute better execute.

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Speaker 1: So then at the end of the game, you'll have

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Speaker 1: coaches when they win or when they get beat, they'll say, listen,

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Speaker 1: I thought we had a really good game plan today.

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Speaker 1: We stuck to the game plan, and you know that's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we won. Or sometimes you

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Speaker 1: hear coaches that are on the losing side and say, listen,

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Speaker 1: we had a really good game plan today. We stuck

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Speaker 1: to the plan. I think our guys really played well.

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Speaker 1: We just got beat today, ye right, I think you

585
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Speaker 1: want to get in from a golf standpoint, you want

586
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Speaker 1: to be in that headspace when you go into playing

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Speaker 1: golf at your home course, that you've got a really

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Speaker 1: good strategy, that you have a plan B strategy, you

589
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Speaker 1: have a checkdown that you know, Okay, these are the

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Speaker 1: holes today that I'm really going to focus on and

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Speaker 1: just try and make nine pars. Right. If I could

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Speaker 1: find half the golf course where I focus solely on

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Speaker 1: nine pars, that's it, and then the other nine holes go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: these are the difficult holes. So maybe these are the

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Speaker 1: holes where my strategy is I'm just going to try

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Speaker 1: and bogie these four or five holes.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: If I can get out of these four or five

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Speaker 1: holes with bogies and have a really good strategy no

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Speaker 1: where I want to hit it. You know, again, the

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Speaker 1: game plan blueprint that we gave Mingbo based off of

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Speaker 1: a successful game plan that you came up with for

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Speaker 1: Garrett Barber. Have two kids win the state championship, you

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Speaker 1: know in under ten years, that's a pretty good I

605
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Speaker 1: think we've kind of used this as Okay, if we

606
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Speaker 1: can do this on a very very specific golf course, right,

607
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Speaker 1: and I try and we try and talk to the

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Speaker 1: players you know that we work with give them the

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Speaker 1: tour stuff that you know, I'm lucky enough to be

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Speaker 1: around majors to where we're trying to spend a ton

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Speaker 1: of time around the green complexes. We're trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out where's the best place to miss it. We're trying

613
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Speaker 1: to figure out where's the best strategy off the tee

614
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Speaker 1: that can get us from point A to point B.

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Speaker 1: We're always saying, Arcie, from a mental standpoint, the only

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Speaker 1: thing you can control on a golf course is, first

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Speaker 1: of all, the only hole you can control is the

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Speaker 1: one you're playing, yep. And the only shot you can

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Speaker 1: control is the one you're playing right now. Right You

620
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Speaker 1: can't control what just happened on the last hole or

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Speaker 1: some of the shots that have happened early in the round.

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Speaker 1: You can't control what's going to happen in the future

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Speaker 1: on the holes you've got to play because you haven't

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Speaker 1: played them. So I think if you have a really

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Speaker 1: good game plan for every hole on your golf course,

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Speaker 1: keep it in your yardage book and say, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: just going to try and have a strategy that I

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Speaker 1: stick to. And then if you say, okay, I'm playing

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Speaker 1: really really good right now, regardless of my handicap. Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe my strategy can change a little bit, maybe I

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Speaker 1: can be a little bit more go on offense and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I think most players when they play golfer, they

633
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Speaker 1: never think of where do I need to play defense

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Speaker 1: and where do I need to play offense? Right to me,

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Speaker 1: that's one the things that separates competitive golfers at all levels.

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Speaker 1: The best competitive golfers in the world play offense when

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to play offense. They play defense when they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to play defense, and they know the difference. Yes,

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00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: the average golfer, and I think most golfers are just

640
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: everything is straight offense. They never think about playing defense.

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Speaker 1: Playing defense around your home course and knowing which holes

642
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: to play defense on is a massive way to break

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Speaker 1: the score barriers of one hundred, ninety eighty and par for.

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Speaker 2: The first time, where defensive maybe three would instead of

645
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Speaker 2: driver lay up further back than where you would want

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Speaker 2: to typically and then hitting it to the correct side

647
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Speaker 2: of the green no matter where the pennants. That's playing

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Speaker 2: basically defensive golf, which what pro would do after annex

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Speaker 2: the triple where the junior turns it, turns it around

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Speaker 2: unless hit the next green in two and try to

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Speaker 2: make eagle.

652
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what happens to most golfers, and and

653
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: I've talked about this more times than I wish I

654
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: had to. Whenever something bad happens on the golf course,

655
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: because you don't have a strategy, because you don't have

656
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: a game plan or a plan B or this idea

657
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: of Okay, whatever just happened on this hole, I can't

658
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: fix it. As soon as that happens, I think to

659
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: most golfers is now the strategy just goes straight offense.

660
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 1: Now I'm just going to try and birdie every hole.

661
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take as many chances as I can possibly take.

662
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to be as reckless as I can possibly be.

663
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and be as aggressive I possibly be.

664
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Speaker 1: So you don't even have a strategy. But as soon

665
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: as something bad happens, the strategy just goes. I push

666
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: all in on every single shot, on every single hole,

667
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I just push all my chips in. And we say

668
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: this all the time. You're hoping that works. Hope isn't

669
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: a strategy, correct, You can't think that hope is a strategy.

670
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: Hall memory's in a row is not going to work.

671
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: So you like eighteen birdies using GPS? What else do

672
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: you think people can use at their home course? What

673
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: are some things that they could be asking their head

674
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: pro or the assistant pros from an information standpoint? Hey,

675
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: what would be something you would want to ask?

676
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in terms of the course previous stuff, the

677
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: eighteen birdies and arcos were great. What I would have

678
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: asked my head pro is, can you give me scoring averages?

679
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: Maybe from maybe the number guest tournaments? I can get

680
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: it from the college tournament here, the Vallas Park Collegiate.

681
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: I believe you should.

682
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: You just want to try and get as much data

683
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: that you can get about the home course that you're playing.

684
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: What is my handicap doing, my handicapp group doing. Let's

685
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: say if I'm a five to ten handicap, what is

686
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: the handicap group doing on the course. Where are they

687
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: losing their shots? How can I change my strategy to

688
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: save shots on those particular holes? First, and it doesn't

689
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: usually match the scorecard handicap So I mean, here a

690
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: good example. Number one is a really tough hole. At

691
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: fluidian number nine is a really tough hole. At fluidian

692
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: number eleven is a really tough hole at Floridian, Number

693
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 2: eighteen is a really tough hole, and those are identified

694
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: on the score card, like we know it's going to

695
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: be tough. So where are the sneaky heardholes? Number three

696
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: is a sneaky heardhole here. Number four par three really

697
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: difficult green to hit. Number five par five really difficult

698
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: green to hit. It's a really complex green complex that typically,

699
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, is the hardest of the par

700
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: fives for our college tournament. So what are these sneaky

701
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: little holes that kind of show up where the scoring

702
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: average is much higher than you would expect. That's where

703
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: you come in and say, why do I need to

704
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: change on my game plan that I can beat these

705
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: players in that group? And it's typically going to be

706
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: playing more of a defensive style. Skid a bogey and

707
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: get out of there.

708
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Speaker 1: And the other thing I think is important is you know,

709
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Speaker 1: at your home course, talk to the people that are

710
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: in your handicap bracket, right, but then talk to people

711
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: that are where you want to go from a handicap standpoint.

712
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Talk to your club champion and say, hey, could I

713
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: pick your brain for five minutes? How do you play

714
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: this golf course? Right? Or you're in that kind of

715
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: higher handicap range to where you're you know, you're in

716
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: that kind of eighties shooter, like you're shoot in the

717
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: eighties and the low nineties. Talk to the guys that

718
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: are shooting in the seventies or talk to the players

719
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Speaker 1: and say, listen, how do you play this hole? What

720
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: do you do on this From a strategy standpoint, I

721
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: think the more information you can get it helps you

722
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: then come up with a game plan where you're like, Okay,

723
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: I didn't think this golf hole was hard. I never

724
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: really play it.

725
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: Well.

726
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: Now I get why it's hard, and now maybe I

727
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: change my strategy to play it correct. Yeah.

728
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: Very simple data, right, very simple. Get it from your head,

729
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: pro get it from the USGA. It's all there in

730
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: front of it. And just to change your mindset on

731
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: those holes, whether it's a expectation that boge is okay here,

732
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: can help you play a better golf.

733
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then have a game plan for every hole

734
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: on your home course. Eighteen plans and you know you

735
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: could print that out and keep it and just so

736
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: then it's almost like having your own caddy. The caddy's

737
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: just going no, no, you don't hit driver here, we

738
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: know you hit three wood here yep. Right, So then

739
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: you're not getting ahead of yourself doing things that are

740
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: going to cause some issues, cause some problems, right.

741
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: And one of the strands of Arcos and other Apple

742
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: lag is that the Arcos caddy does that for you.

743
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: So after you get several rounds of data, it has

744
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: an idea of how you should play each hole.

745
00:39:54,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: How important do you feel breaking these score barriers, breaking

746
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: one hundred ninety eighty, breaking part for the first time.

747
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: How important do you feel data can play to help you.

748
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: It's like it's a cheat code almost.

749
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: It's a cheat code. You have to have some sort

750
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: of background going into your course, and we call it data,

751
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: but it's basically information on how to play the course. Right,

752
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: He's got to have some level of knowledge, and the

753
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: more you dive in that gives you a strategical advantage

754
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: over the players you're playing with.

755
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: And it also gives you a strategic if you think

756
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: about it, not from a tournament standpoint, but if you

757
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: can gain plan religiously and have a really good strategy

758
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: for your home course, it can help you kind of

759
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: think about, Okay, I want to break a hundred for

760
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: the first time. Yep, right, Okay, I've got to beat

761
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: one hundred. Okay, so what do I need to do

762
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: from a strategy standpoint. The opponent now is one hundred.

763
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: You know it's the arbitrary score and say, okay to

764
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: beat these arbitrary handicap defining. Hey, I want to get

765
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: down to a single digit. I want to break eighty

766
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: for the first time. I want to break ninety. But

767
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: a lot of players are just listen, man, if I

768
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: could shoot in the nineties all the time, then I

769
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: can start getting these other scorecard barriers. They become more

770
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: manageable and more realistic to break yep.

771
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: By having a strategy, Yeah, create your own Bogie blueprint

772
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: at the game. You did a couple of podcasts ago,

773
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: get some ws, build some momentum and not even thinking

774
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: about trying to break those barriers instead of trying to

775
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: just win the hole with the correct game plan is

776
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: going to help you lower those scores.

777
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: And listen, it's hard to do this, right. First of all,

778
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: it's never been easier, I think, to come up with

779
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: the game plan. It's never It's never been easier with

780
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: all of the technology available, right, But sticking to that

781
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: game plan.

782
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: That's the hard part.

783
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: It's hard, but if you don't ever think about it

784
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: like that. Now, I think, you know, in terms of

785
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, mingbo one of the things that I think

786
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: this strategy that we helped him with it's going to

787
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: help him as he now transitions from a high school

788
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: junior golfer and next fall transitions into a Division I

789
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: college golfer. I think it's going to make that transition

790
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: easier because he's going to be thinking better and he's

791
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: going to be thinking more like the players that he's

792
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: competing against, and the college coaches. Everybody at the college

793
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: level is doing this correct. So I'm always trying to,

794
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, on the podcast, focus on things that we

795
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: see in the real competitive world, the PGA Tour Live

796
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: DP Asia, wherever guys are LPG wherever people trying to play.

797
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: What we see at the Division I college level, from

798
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players and the programs that we're lucky,

799
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: what we know that players are using to Monday qualify

800
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But having a game plan, having

801
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: a strategy, I think it's the easiest way to get

802
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: you out there playing golf, and get you out there

803
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: not playing golf.

804
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: Swing you can basically make it an intangible skill just

805
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: to be able to outgame plan your competitors.

806
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 1: Or to outgain plan one hundred. Yes, there's a cheat

807
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: code to break a one hundred. Right, there's a cheat

808
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: code to breaking ninety. Yes, your golf swing is a

809
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: big part of that. But your golf swing can't exist

810
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. If you're never going to play golf

811
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: until your golf swing is good, then you're going to

812
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: probably not be playing a lot of golf, and you're

813
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: going to be spending a lot of time on the range.

814
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: And if you are really hyper focused on breaking these

815
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: score barriers one hundred, ninety eighty, breaking power for the

816
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: first time, I think game planning is a vital part

817
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: of that and some of the easiest low hanging fruit

818
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: wins you can get because you then basically say, Okay,

819
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: for the next four to five hours, I'm not going

820
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: to think about my golf swing. I'm just going to

821
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: think about what my game plan is. What plays am

822
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: I going to run as a head coach today? What

823
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: am I going to do from an offensive standpoint? What

824
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: am I going to do from a defensive standpoint? And

825
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm just going to see for eighteen holes at my

826
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: home course. Maybe just try it for nine and say,

827
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just going to go out trying

828
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: nine hole game plan and see what that does. Wow,

829
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: that really did have an effect on my score. Okay,

830
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and do it now for eighteen holes,

831
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to try and do it every

832
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: time I play perfect.

833
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: I think would be a great way to play golf

834
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: where you take the arbitrary score out of it and

835
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: just trying to execute game plans, trying to execute a

836
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 2: bogie proof blueprint. That's type of style of golf where

837
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: it's just kind of the culture to be putting the

838
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: numbers down on the scorecard, but let's put something else

839
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: down on the score card. Yeah, and let's think notes

840
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: down on the course.

841
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I think that's the other thing on

842
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: the golf course. Take notes, take notes, and see what

843
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: worked what didn't work. I think then you have a

844
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: better opportunity to go into your blueprint, your game plan

845
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: and your strategy and say, listen, this really works for

846
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: me when I do this on this hole, and this

847
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: doesn't work for me when I do this. You'll figure

848
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: out quite quickly which strategy works and which strategy doesn't correct.

849
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: And that's what the best players in the world are doing.

850
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: So we got another We helped another player solve the

851
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: puzzle of playing competitive golf. I think that's a big

852
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: part of what our jobs are as golf coaches and instructors. Yes,

853
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: we're trying to make their golf swings better, but we're

854
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: also trying to help them play the game better. Good

855
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: stuff are see always really really good. Your instagram golf

856
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Chaos Managed, you talk about a lot of this stuff.

857
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Go check it out. It's The Son of Aitch podcast.

858
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: We will see you next week.