1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast didn't come here to make friends. 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. Up, 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Greg Rosen thowing, I'm here with a couple of heroes 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: in Culver City and a couple of heroes in New 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: York Chris Westling, Kevin Patra, Dan Handas, and Mark Sessler 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: from a hotel room in Midtown Manhattan. What is happening? Um? 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: That was a crude fact simile of what a true 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: open should be for the podcast. Look, I don't need 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: your backseat driving Dan from New York. I'm doing the 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: best that I can and I'm trying to bring the 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: energy here because we are taping this after one in 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: the morning East Coast time. We've been writing all day. 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Get excited. Yes, it's very early in the morning in 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: New York. But as I just tweeted, I am writing 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: a contact high off Mark Sessler, who this is one 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: of the greatest nights of his life. I can honestly 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: say it an amazing opening night of the NFL Draft, 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: and it's all about Johnny Football and the Cleveland Browns 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: and Marks Glory. He's like a pregnant woman. I do 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: feel like a woman who is about to give birth. 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: I will say that for the last forty minutes, Dan 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: and I have been blasting Steve Winwood in our hotel room. 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: Take from that what you will. That's music. It was 24 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: part of it. It was partly done in honor of you, West, 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: but also just like it felt like we needed some 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: celebration music while we waited in this hotel room in 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: midtown Manhattan. And you know, I it was really it 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: was quite a trip being at Radio City for that 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: because we you know you you tell us, Greg, how 30 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: do you want to get into this? Because I have 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts about the man's l situation, because 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: that to me seems like the big sigh as mcmove 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: that we've been waiting for the Browns to make for 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: fifteen years and they finally did it. Well, Mark can't 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: talk about it because you tweeted right after the trade 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: that he floated out of the building. I know it 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: was immediately, you know, a high octane post was assigned 38 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: to me. So I was clamped down typing in a 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: seat that would have been better watching a film in 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: that These seats of Radio City are just large, plush 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: that my couches. But I will say this Wesley and 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: I think you tweeted this early that it already in 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: the first four picks or so. This year's draft had 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: more drama than anything we saw a year ago, And 45 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: that is exactly true. The manzil B line and the 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: drop throughout until Cleveland picked him. This was Radio City 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: was on fire tonight. Well, Mark, Mark wasn't there when 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Eric Fisher went off the board in two K thirteen 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: and blew the roof? It wasn't It wasn't Fisher. It 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: was the Fisher Joe goal combination and just trying to 51 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: recover from that. Three tackles in the first four picks. 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: There's no other place to start than than Johnny Manzel. 53 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: What was what were you feeling? Mark? As Manzel was 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: following falling. You know, the Browns had already traded down 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: in the first round to number nine, then they moved 56 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: back up to eight. Where are you at that point 57 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: while they're on the clock at eight, I did not. 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: I was stunned that at that point they took a cornerback. 59 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: I found that to be It was an interesting move 60 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: by Farmer, But it brings me back to everything they 61 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: said coming into this draft. They actually spoke the truth, 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: they didn't want one of these quarterbacks at number four. 63 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: And at that point I thought it was a lost 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: cause because someone else, that's especially Minnesota, I thought, would 65 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: swoop in and make this move. And I thought, well, 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: you know what they're they watched the tape. They're not 67 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: into Johnny football. And the fact that he came an 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: own to them. Uh, there was a lot of drama 69 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: there because you're watching teams like the Eagles, Uh could 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: they could he go there? And I thought if he 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: goes past Philadelphia, would Cincinnati decide maybe to take him? 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: And all these teams were the Cowboys, well the Cowboys 73 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: of course, all these teams with veterans in place, decided 74 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: not to rock their depth chart with that move. And 75 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: so it was very dramatic how it played out, and 76 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: it was it was the you know, I've gotten, I've 77 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: gotten to go to the last three drafts. This is 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: by far the best kind of vibe in the building. 79 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: Uh when because Manzel kind of hung over the whole thing. 80 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Once Clowney comes off the board at number one, and 81 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 1: instantly it was it was kind of like the Manzel Show. 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: And it's funny when the Browns traded and then passed 83 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: on him with the first pick. Um. You know, Mark 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: was very downtrodden, but it was such an interesting draft 85 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: that it wasn't over yet because every pick the home 86 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: than the air. Who was going to take Manzel? And 87 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: then when it came back to the Browns and they 88 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: traded up with it was the Eagles, I believe, right, yeah, 89 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: and and and on the Eagles thing. I found that 90 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: to be the interesting footnote of the night, that the 91 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: chip Kelly situation in Cleveland was obviously egg on the 92 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: face of that organization and it really kind of cemented 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: them as a laughing stock. And then bang, it's through 94 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles that they who I really thought that is 95 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: chip Kelly type quarterback. That's how they get it done 96 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: by outbidding the Vikings. I don't know. It was Ballsy 97 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: and Ray I think the winner of the night for me. 98 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: And I'm saying it's literally not as a Browns fan, 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: but there was a lot of doubts and questions about 100 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: if Ray Farmer was just a guy in there and 101 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Housing was controlling the whole thing. I thought Ray Farmer 102 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: did a nice job tonight. Well, so I mean he 103 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: wanted Manzel, Well, he picks up the first round in 104 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: the fourth round pick from the Bills next year too. 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: It's an unbelievable night for the Browns and their fans, 106 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: and it makes me wonder, are they I know it's early, 107 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: but it's Manziel and whatever. Isn't this a team that 108 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: could contend with Manzel right away? That's something that I 109 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: even though I got hung up with the Cowboys and 110 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: it cost me a lot of sandwiches tonight, I will 111 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: I feel. I feel okay with how it turned out 112 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: because I had Mr Mike Mayack on my side. You know, 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: he was still on the board at sixteen when the 114 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys passed. But what I always felt from the start personally, 115 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: and I think obviously Mark was on the same page 116 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: two was that Manzel and the Browns were the perfect team. 117 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: It was the perfect setup. And you know, I just 118 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 1: think that this is a situation that this franchise needed 119 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: a seismic moment, a big move, and this is they 120 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: made the move today. You know, you talk about seismic movement. 121 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Mark and I have been following sports for over thirty 122 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: years now, and there's one golden role I've picked up. 123 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: If you have a chance to get a uniquely gifted 124 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: player who not only has the chance to alter the 125 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: course of your franchise, but can also galvanize the whole area, 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: the city, the state. You have to take a chance 127 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: on that. This is what sports teams fail over and 128 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: over again. And when you don't take a chance on that, 129 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: you lose jobs. As Greg likes to say, great quarterbacks 130 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: don't transford. Don't just transform franchises, They transformed lives. Jobs 131 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: are saved. You get a new addition on your house, 132 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: you up grade to a bigger house, your GM stays 133 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: in place for a few more years. This is the 134 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: kind of move that could be And to that point, 135 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: to that the way I look at it too, it's like, 136 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: if you get the right quarterback, you can redo that foyer. Well, no, 137 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: to bolster that point. Uh, we found out twenty five 138 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: minutes after they drafted Manziel the Browns had two hundred 139 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: new season tickets bought and three hundred renewals, So it's 140 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: five d tickets sold in twenty five minutes after he 141 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: drafted him. And my question after that, it is that 142 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: gonna pressure them to start him? Because Petton said today 143 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: he didn't have to start. But is the st yeah, 144 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: he said, I don't disagree with that. He said that 145 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: after the draft that it hasn't changed his mind that 146 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't want a rookie quarterback to start. So yeah, 147 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: good luck with that, Brian Hoyer. You're coming off a 148 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: tour n A c L. You have Johnny Football behind you. 149 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: The whole town's gonna want Manziel to play. I don't 150 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: see how that's gonna last for too long. Vince Young 151 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: can't catch a break. Guys. The collateral damage that is, 152 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, part of the whole story. And we're not 153 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna spend the whole show on Manzel, but we are 154 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: going to be talking the whole offseason, the whole season 155 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: about it. So well, I don't mind diving into it. 156 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Is the Minnesota Vikings angle. I mean, all the teams 157 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: that passed on Manzel, including the Browns, but there was 158 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: only one team that wanted Manziel enough to trade back 159 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: up for him, and that was Minnesota are Albert Brier 160 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: ports that they tried to trade up to twenty two 161 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: and take Manzel there, and Jay Glazer also reports uh 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: at one point they thought they had a deal done. 163 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: So in that one moment when Ray Farmer I mean 164 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: it's I guess it's out of the movie. I haven't 165 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: seen the movie, but I mean it's the drama of 166 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: a movie. In that one moment where the Browns are 167 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: calling and they have the top Minnesota's offer, everything changes. 168 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: We could be talking about a depressed Mark Sessler right now, 169 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: and all those season tickets could be going to Minnesota. 170 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: And I think Minnesota recovered very well by getting Teddy Bridgewater. 171 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: But man, that is a franchise altering seismic what phone 172 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: calls and think about that situation. Now you're gonna have 173 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: something we're gonna be tracking the next couple of years 174 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: is how that all shook out. And the Vikings go 175 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: and they do trade back into the first round and 176 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: then they get Teddy Bridgewater at thirty. Johnny Manziel goes 177 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: to the Browns a two. So we're gonna see how 178 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: that works out for those two teams and always be 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: a what if game if one of the guy's bombs 180 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: and one of the guys does very well. I mean, 181 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really gonna be fascinating to watch. You 182 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: don't think that Howie Roseman was the one that made 183 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: the call to the Browns knowing that they would want, hey, 184 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: we have this, you have you have another first round 185 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: pick that we might rather trade there than to get 186 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: the second rounder from the Vikings. I think it was 187 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: the Eagles that might have been gone to the Browns 188 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: and said, hey, by the way, we know you want Manzel, 189 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: but we got the Vikings on the other line. Had 190 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: to be a two a street there. And the Eagles, 191 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: who kind of you know, they threw some things out 192 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: there that maybe they might be interested me that they 193 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: trade down and the end up taking a guy that 194 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: no one except for Daniel Jeremiah has ever heard of, 195 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: Marcus Smith, who no one had in the first round 196 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: except for DJ. So kudos to DJ, and kudos to 197 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: Marcus Smith for somehow making it into this podcast. You know, 198 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: one thing like Cleveland has in recent history used that 199 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: pick to go quarterback Brady Quinn, Brandon weedon too, Maths 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: and mrs. So they're hoping this one's a little bit different. 201 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: And and the reality is, when we look at the draft, 202 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: we pick our winners tonight in mind and spirit. But 203 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: reality is a lot of people felt that Teddy Bridgewater 204 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: was the more pro ready quarterback. I think it's gonna 205 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: be very fascinating to see how it's a It's good 206 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: for Manzel that he went somewhere with a coordinator with 207 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: some experience on how to use an unorthodox, as Wesley 208 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: would say, uniquely gifted guy. I like the fit there. 209 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: Had he gone to Minnesota with Norv Turner, I'm not 210 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: sure that would have been Norv Turner is an excellent 211 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. But but Shannahan's already shown that he can 212 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: work with this type of player, So it's gonna be 213 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: fun to watch. Hey, Nov worked with Doug Flutie. You're 214 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: right about that. Jim Trotter did today say though that 215 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: he that that nor didn't really like the flute's old 216 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: pocket pist. I can't believe that Mark is bringing up 217 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: Weeden and Brady Quinn on the night that you got 218 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: man This is the kind be honest. This has got 219 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: to be the closest thing to a playoff win in 220 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: a in a long time. Just don't even bring harshing 221 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: the buzz. I don't like it. By the way, the 222 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: notorious DP Handsome Hank shot down my factory of Gladness 223 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: headline on the NFL dot com landing Tragic, which I 224 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: had called weeks ago, and everyone in the building seemed 225 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: to think it was a good one, and I was 226 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: very proud of myself and excited. If I wasn't gonna 227 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: get sandwiches from the Cowboys, I was going to get 228 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: that headline. Didn't get it. What was the reason behind that, 229 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Also shot down my suggestion that Dan 230 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: and I would march out to a co introductory song 231 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: of Enya's Orinoco Flow. Uh. Let's talk about what, in 232 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: most drafts would have been the biggest surprise and one 233 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: of the biggest stories, and that's the Jacksonville Jaguars shocking 234 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people by making Blake Bortles number three. 235 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: And this in all the pre draft speculation and rumors 236 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: and but I mean, almost every possibility is thrown out there, 237 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: and then you know disputed. I can't remember anyone saying 238 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: Bordles to the Jaguars. And this is David Caldwell, their 239 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: general manager, basically putting it out there. He's putting his 240 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: job on line saying Bordles. I I'm riding with Blake 241 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, that's my career. This one kind of gives 242 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: me the willie. I wouldn't be too excited. I don't 243 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: know when I saw comparisons in January and February of 244 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles to blame Gabber. There's also been comparisons to 245 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger as well and Jake Locker, and maybe there's 246 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: a selling seats factor there these This is definitely not 247 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: the name. Maybe they just didn't know Florida he's a quarterback. 248 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what I mean, they don't. 249 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: It's not like they have a bad track record with 250 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: guys with stupid Dame. Uh. They have drafted three quarterbacks 251 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: now in the top ten in their franchise history, Byron Leftwood's, 252 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert's Blaine Gabbett rather and uh, here comes Blake Borders. 253 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: The difference between Bordles and Manzel and Bridgewater is, first 254 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: of all, there's a little less pressure on the other 255 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: two guys because they were taken later, although I don't 256 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: think that ultimately matters so much. The bigger thing is 257 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: the Browns and the Vikings have some talent on offense 258 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: around it. You have Joe Thomas, and you have Jordan Cameron, 259 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: and you have Josh Gordon for Manzel, and then in 260 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota of Adrian Peterson and Cordurell Patterson and Kyle Rudolph 261 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: and Greg Jennings aren't bad. And then you look at Jacksonville. 262 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: That's not a situation where I feel like he's really 263 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: set up to succeed and they're gonna have to play 264 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: him right away. We're also seeing Jacksonville is a team 265 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: that's potentially going in the right direction. You know, this 266 00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: isn't This isn't Gabbett again in a situation where he's 267 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: going to a flatline franchise. There's some hope in Jacksonville 268 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: as well. Well, I'm trying to get rid of that hope. 269 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: It all rides, It all rides on Blake Bortles Shorters. Now, 270 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: I can't believe you're just missing Chad Henny. They only tragedy. 271 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: Did you know They've only drafted five players in the 272 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: history of their franchise, five quarterbacks in the history of 273 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: the franchise left Wich Bortles, Gabert, Rob Johnson, and Jonathan Quinn. 274 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna throw out Quinn Gray, but I guess 275 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't drafted drafted, So I mean, Cecily, you're you're 276 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: a big call Dwell and Gus Bradley believer. Does this 277 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: change your feelings? Are you now going to root against 278 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles because he's essentially a competitor of Johnny Manziel 279 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: in this rookie quarterback thing. No, I'm not sure that 280 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: that has a lot of traction with me. I mean, 281 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: I I found the pick odd as well, And I 282 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: wonder if if Jacksonville ultimately would like to depending you know, 283 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: everyone says, oh, Gus Bradley is coming out of the 284 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: Seattle system with nothing but those that the way that 285 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: team was built in his mind. But I wonder if 286 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: they want to be more of a run heavy type offense. 287 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: The one thing about Bortles is and I think there's 288 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of his size and his trades, 289 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot to like potentially, But they've talked about 290 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: him a couple of times as someone that is just 291 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: not ready for the overall past of being a starting quarterback. 292 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: He needs time, and so maybe when they talked about 293 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: Henny there was a half truth that a we're obviously 294 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: not sold on this guy. No one's buying that, but 295 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: maybe do you feel like you really have to start 296 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: Bortles right away. I wonder if that's the case, me 297 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: is your number three picks, So I kind of agree 298 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: with that. I'm not sure if they believe they have 299 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: to right away. To go back to Greg's point, I'm 300 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: not sure that Bortles has more pressure than Johnny Manziel. 301 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't really think so. I think with the person 302 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: that Manzel is, I think he's putting pressure on himself. 303 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: That's who we're talking about today, We're not you know, 304 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Bortles was the second one. I think because of where 305 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is in relation to the histories of the two franchises. 306 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: I think Johnny Manziel has much more pressure on him 307 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: than like Blake Bortles, who everyone could forget and nobody 308 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: would go, nobody would worry about it. So those are 309 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: the three quarterbacks that were taken. And Derek Carr still 310 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: sitting on the board as we tape this going into 311 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: day two and we're gonna get to our go get 312 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: my lunch bets just a little bit later. That last 313 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: part was supposed to be imployed. Yeah, I forgot about that. Uh, 314 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm not really excited about revealing these standings. Uh, that'll 315 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: give away at least my position in the stands. We'll 316 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: talk about that later, but I think we should talk 317 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: about the other biggest move of the day, which was 318 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: the Bills trading up for Sammy Watkins. And like Mark 319 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: Sessler said, man Ray Farmer comes out looking good in this. 320 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: He picks up Buffalo's first round pick next year and 321 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: their fourth round pick, and Buffalo moves up only five 322 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: spots to get Sammy Watkins. Maybe Stevie Johnson is on 323 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: the trade block. Now what do we think of this move? 324 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: It's a huge gamble. I mean, essentially Doug Whaley saying, 325 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: I think this guy is gonna be the next Calvin Johnson. 326 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: So I'm giving you my first rounder next year because 327 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: I think he's the difference to get us getting to 328 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: compete in the NFC East. I think that's what he's saying. 329 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: With what with what the trade that he made. I'm 330 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: not wild about it because I don't believe any j Manuel. 331 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: But I guess credit to them for stacking their offense 332 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: with as many weapons as possible because they believe any 333 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: j Manuel. But like I said, I just I don't 334 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't give up the future, and they gave up 335 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: a part of their future to bank on e J. Manuel. Yeah, 336 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: it's all like it called Wells. One guy that's suddenly 337 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: he put his name up there is I'm I'm attached 338 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: to a player, and if this doesn't work out I 339 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: might not be in Jacksonville in a couple of years 340 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: from now. I see the same thing with the Bills 341 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: here because this was an expensive, costly trade and it's 342 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: if this doesn't work, Annie J. Manuel continues to not 343 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: thrill that coach and that GM have a lot of 344 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: explaining to do. Well. One thing I'll say though, about 345 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: that West to your point that maybe it's tempered by 346 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation. Let's say you're right West and and 347 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: you're feeling and a lot of people feeling that maybe 348 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: e J. Manniel is not the guy. He has a 349 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: bad season, maybe he gets hurt again, maybe he gets benched, 350 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: and they go down the tubes. They'll go and get 351 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback next year, And they have not in the 352 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: first round a quarterback, the dynamic young wide receiver locked 353 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: in for the next four years at least and maybe 354 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: the five. So it's not it's not necessarily a win 355 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: now situation. The yeah, they can pick up Chad Henny, 356 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: they can't get a quarterback in the first round next 357 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: year because the Browns hold that pick. Yeah, this isn't 358 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: the problem. This isn't like theirs. The when the forty 359 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Niners or the Saints give away a first round pick 360 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: for next year and you figure out that's going to 361 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: be in the mid twenties. Is the Bills and this 362 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: this could be the fourth pick, right, this could be 363 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: the Redskins trading away you know, their picks and it 364 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: winds up being in the top two or something like that. 365 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills have had no track record of success, 366 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: and you know, it's a hard decision for me to 367 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: understand to give up a pick that high for a 368 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver, especially maybe you just feel like you need 369 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna be able to catch a pass 370 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: that's fifteen yards overthrown and Sammy Watkins is the only 371 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: guy that could possibly do that. Wow, it doesn't feel 372 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: quite right to me that Cleveland Browns fans will be 373 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: rooting hard for Buffalo Bills fans to be unhappy. It's 374 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: like those two fan bases should kind of have some solidarity. 375 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: But if you're a Brown fan, you you you want 376 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: to builds to go down to flames, drop it two 377 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: and fourteen on him, a lot of anti EJ manual sentiments. 378 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: It's too bad because actually it is a moment that 379 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: Bills fans are going to get excited about. I mean, 380 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: they are getting Sammy Watkins. They are getting what we 381 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: all well, West disagreed. You thought Mike Evans was the 382 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: best wide receiver in this class, but for the most 383 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: inspired people thought Watkins was one of the best wide 384 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: receiver prospects in a while. And it is an exciting 385 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: offense on paper. They they have everything but the quarterback. 386 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: I guess that's what I'm so frustrated about. If they 387 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: just had a veteran, even a Michael Vick type to 388 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: go along with c J. Spiller and Fred Jackson and 389 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: all of these receivers that have so much talent and 390 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: Cordy Glennett left tackle, then you get excited. But it 391 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: just almost doesn't all add up With d J. Manuel. 392 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: I was surprised because, and I guess it's just all 393 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: smoke screen. But what the way Whaley talked about Evans, 394 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: and I'm in West's camp in terms of seeing Evans 395 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: as a guy that I like Evans more, and I 396 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: thought that Whaley did too, because he talked about him 397 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: as a receiver that they don't have on that team, 398 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: a dimension they don't have. Maybe what he was saying was, 399 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: we never think Watkins will be there for us, but 400 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: if we're gonna trade up, it might be for Evans instead. 401 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: But I was surprised that actually which wide receiver they picked. 402 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: All right, so now we've we've gone over the quarterbacks, 403 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: we've gone over the big wide receiver trade. Maybe let's uh, 404 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: I would say, go around the room, but we're separated 405 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: by an entire country right now. Let's just go around 406 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: the group. Let's go around America, and let's pick some 407 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: of our favorite picks of the night, just the ones 408 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: that struck your fancy and you like them. Let's start 409 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: with Kevin Patrick coming at you. I'm gonna go to 410 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: the end of the first round. And I really like 411 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: the Bradley Roby pick by the Broncos. I think he 412 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: fills a need. I think at that spot where he 413 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: they got him, I think it's a huge deal. He 414 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: was talked about being one of the upper middle cornerbacks taken, 415 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: and if it wasn't for average gear last year where 416 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: he blown some coverage I think he could be a 417 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: difference maker a couple of years down the road when 418 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: they're looking to get rid of it to Leave's contract. 419 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: I think that could be huge for them. But let's 420 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: be honest, a fifty two year old Reggie Roby would 421 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: have been a more optimal selection at that point. Move. Wait, 422 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: is that's what they took. My brother Phil lives in 423 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: Columbus and is a huge Ohio State Buckeyes fan. Uh. 424 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: He was just telling me the other day that Bradley 425 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Roby got toasted way too often last year. Do he 426 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: was really good as a sophomore. If you look at 427 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: got burnt quite a bit last year. I thought you're 428 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna say he was a Reggie Roby fan, or that 429 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: he was Reggie Roby. All the Wesleyans are Reggie Roby fans. 430 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to New York for this next one. Mark, 431 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: give me a pick. You liked the pick? I thought 432 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: I liked the Raiders going with Khalil Mack. I mean, 433 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: I this is a guy that Greg coast Sell said 434 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: a best player in the draft, best defender, and the 435 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: Raiders have used the offseason to add like fifteen guys 436 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: who are about to turn forty, so that I gotta 437 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: look beyond potentially two thousand and sixteen and a roster 438 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: that will have two people on it at that point 439 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: for Oakland. So I like this guy. I think I 440 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: think Mac is a is potentially a guy that you 441 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: can anchor that defense around for the next seven eight years. 442 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: It's it was, it's it's maybe one of the safer moves. 443 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: And nice job by mackenzie. Hey, Reggie Mackenzie now has 444 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: one blue chip player on his roster. There you go. 445 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: You gotta give him credit that he didn't go after 446 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: an over thirty guy in the first round of the draft. 447 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair, Fred, and we did not in 448 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: the draft now that is it did work out well 449 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: for them with with Blake Bortles going three, essentially that 450 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: Mac fell further. I mean a lot of people liked 451 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: Mac over Clowney. You're right. If you look at that roster, 452 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: they have no one that's just hey, that's a franchise 453 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: type of guy, and they got a guy. If Cleo 454 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: Max in this draft last year, he probably goes number 455 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: one overall. That's a classic move too, and fantasy draft too. 456 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: When you're you know, you're kind of buried a little 457 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: further back in the first round, and then some idiot 458 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: takes Steven Jackson fourth overall, and it changes everything, and 459 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: it puts you in play for somebody that you have 460 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: no business being in play for. So good on you, Reggie. 461 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: Way to go, h Raiders. Let's let's stick with you Dan. 462 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Then let's uh, let's get a pick from you. Like Well, 463 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: first of all, I just want to tell you Greg, 464 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm remarkably tired right now. I just want to get 465 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: that out there. It doesn't mean we're gonna shorten the 466 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: show up if that's what you're trying to tell me, sublimity, 467 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: We're going two hours eisenstyle tonight. Uh No. I liked 468 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: a lot the Giants. I think they probably really wanted 469 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: Eric Ebron who went to the Lions at ten. That 470 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: was another pick I liked. But they stuck to their plan, 471 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: and I think they it was important to them, uh 472 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: to not only show their you know, their belief in 473 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: Eli who I you know, they still believe can play 474 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: despite that bad year. They go and they get Odell Beckham, 475 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: a playmaker that allows you to not put so much 476 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: pressure on Reuben Randalls. So now you have a nice Beckham, 477 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: Victor Cruz Randall threesome there. Well, let's say Troy Dan 478 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: is starting to fall apart here, Yes, And I think 479 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: you know that gives Eli a nice team to work with. 480 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: And if ELI bombs out again with this supporting cast, 481 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: then you really have to ask a lot of questions. 482 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: So the Keen Knicks has been successfully replaced in my mind, 483 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: and I think that was an important move that the 484 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: Giants need to make. I don't know if Beckham is 485 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: an outside the numbers receiver like a Keem Knicks down 486 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: the field. He's more of a guy who was explosive 487 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands, cuts dynamically, kind of 488 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: a different guy than Hakeem Nicks. And I wonder how 489 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if that really addresses the need they have. 490 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: I was surprised to see that wider. I mean, I 491 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: wasn't surprised that they passed on Johnny Manzel. Of all 492 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: the random rumors that came today, that just seemed so 493 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: much like a smoke screen that the Giants and Manzel 494 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: seemed to really stick out. Uh, it was surprising to 495 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: me that they went for receiver. They're considering all their 496 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: defensive needs. Well, the Hey, Dan, we're just we're just 497 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: trying to pick you apart. Sorry, I'm getting crank. When 498 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: Victor Cruz asked for a shiny toy, you give it 499 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: to him. I thought he has for a big one 500 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: though that's true, not right. Maybe the receiver they picked 501 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: as a surprise, but you still live with Victor Cruz talked, 502 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: you know West who you got. I'm going with two 503 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: different players here, one on offense, one on defense. Now 504 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: we can give a couple. Why not one on offense, 505 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 1: one on defense, and both essentially reversed father time for 506 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: their units. I love Ryan shas There, the highest state 507 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: linebacker who I think looks like the best, the fastest 508 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: linebacker on film since Brian or Locker came into the 509 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: league as a safety, wide receiver kick returner out of 510 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: New Mexico. Shas Here is awesome. You you pair him 511 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: with Lawrence Timmins. Now you have a linebacking corps which 512 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: had a lot of question marks last last year. You 513 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: have World and Jones on the outside. Now you have 514 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: arguably the most dynamic interior your duo in the NFL. 515 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: With Bowman coming back from multiple knee surgery for the 516 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: forty Niners, maybe the Steelers are up there and then 517 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: easy They're easy. Steers team is going down in Week one. 518 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: By the way, I mean you just said they might 519 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: be better than Booman and Willis, who have a chance 520 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: to both make the Hall of Fame. Bowman playing on 521 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: one leg. Now, all right, okay, Well let's go to Saints. 522 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Then they had an aging wide receiver corps of Drew Brees. 523 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: Completions last year went to tight ends and running backs. 524 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: It was basically Marcus Colston and no one else. They 525 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: pick up Brandon Cooks, the fastest wide receiver in the draft. 526 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: Prototypical slot receiver, plays a little bit like de Sean Jackson. 527 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: I love this pick. He's kind of like Tavon Austin, 528 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: except Sean Payton will know what to do with him, 529 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: whereas Schottenheimn doesn't know what to do with Tavon. I 530 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: do like him playing on that turf and that dome too. 531 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: That's perfect for him. I don't know about Sean Payton's 532 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: history of drafting receivers, though, they haven't really found guys 533 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: that are high profile wide receivers. Deverie Henderson was a 534 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: high second round pick. Robert Meetchum was the first round 535 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: pick and been able to integrate them into the offense. 536 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: I didn't like any of those players coming out. That's 537 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: that's the difference. They really need to find some players 538 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: that are core young players because they've been kind of 539 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: riding these same guys Marcus Colston and Pierre Thomas and 540 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: Lance Moore is gone now and just they haven't really 541 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: found any of those diamonds in the rough for good 542 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: new offensive pieces in a while. I'm gonna rightly concern 543 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: because Dan is falling asleep on my bed in my 544 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: hotel room. Really, what what is the scene there? Is 545 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: Steve winwould still playing? Or well, no, actually it hasn't 546 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: been all Winwood. Um, we actually listened to Draft Day 547 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: by Drake which Gold Center. Can you play a little 548 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: clip of that right here? Just given instructions from across 549 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: the country. Yeah, drab day, Johnny Manzel five years later, 550 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: how I'm out of mask Stella and uh, you know, 551 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: we got into that a little bit, and then we 552 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: went down a Windwood wormhole and then somehow we got 553 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: to the Living Years by Mike and the Mechanics, and 554 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: that's got a little weird and you know, so it's 555 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: just it's kind of a weird vibe, but it's it 556 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: makes sense because, uh, to to circle back to the 557 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel situation again, I was saying to Mark all week. 558 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: Mark was acting very strange all week about this Manzel 559 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: situation and was overthinking it. Almost was maniacal in his 560 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: behavior at times and obsessive. And I just got the 561 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: feeling that they were going to blow the pick, and 562 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: that was that seemed to be in the air. They 563 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: weren't gonna get Manzelf. They got him. So it's created 564 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: this this whole different like culture all around Mark. I 565 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: feel like Mark's a different guy now and I'm just 566 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: basking in that and I'm really enjoying it. It's nice 567 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: as a Jets man. My my team drafted a defensive 568 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: player in the first round for the seven consecutive year, um, 569 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to have a run stuffing safety 570 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: to help score points. And I'm really looking forward to 571 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: see what he can do with Mike Vick and Jino Smith. 572 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: But that kind of Joe Calvin Pryor will make that 573 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: defense even better. But Manzel, don't be That is a 574 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: subplot the Jets Manzel. They would have been completely insane 575 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: for the Jets to draft Johnny Manziel. But I just 576 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 1: I kind of and I wanted the Browns to have 577 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: him all along. But it was something that I was, 578 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, it was almost that's what. He was such 579 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: a unique character in this whole this whole scene, that 580 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: it's so easy to get sucked in and to think 581 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: about having that guy on your team and potentially transforming them. 582 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: And we don't even know if that's actually gonna happen 583 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: with the Browns. And now the Browns have that chance 584 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: the Jets. It's been so long since the Jets had 585 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: to transcendent, potentially transcendent type athlete like that. So yeah, 586 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: you get sucked in when he's sitting on the board, 587 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: But when I didn't hear his name, and it's not 588 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: like I was crust fall and it because it made 589 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: more sense. And at Radio City, the Jets fans there, 590 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a mixture of relief and 591 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: kind of sadness, but also it was, you know, it 592 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: was it was too much, it was too much to 593 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: imagine him with the Jets. The circus would have been 594 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: back to town. Well, there was palpable excitement that the 595 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: glacier had actually made the pick in time. Well just 596 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: got it in the you know most of the a 597 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the teams that got with 598 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: a well over you know, two minutes to go, the 599 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: glacier took it down because the glacier doesn't make a 600 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: decision until the glacier decides it's the right time. Well, 601 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: when you're watching Michael Vick, you know, lead the Jets 602 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: to a stirring comeback over the Bills to get the 603 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: Jets record to five and seven, you can be happy 604 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: and and think, hey, that's the guy that we passed 605 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: on Johnny Manzel for one year of Michael Vick. I 606 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: do look forward to the first time Sammy Watkins goes 607 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: over the middle and Calvin Pryor de cleats in and 608 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: you never see the same Sammy Watkins ever again. I 609 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: am looking forward to that. I'm gonna give my favorite 610 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: pick of the rounds to uh the St. Louis Rams, 611 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: even though I wanted them to take a quarterback because 612 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: I just think they're sticking with Sam Bradford too long. Ultimately, 613 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: you have to like the team they're putting together with 614 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald on that defensive line. Donald Michael Brocker's Robert 615 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: Quinn and uh Chris Long is the most insane pass 616 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: rush defensive line in the league right now, and then 617 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: you add Robinson to their offensive line, they should be 618 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: a good running attack. West's banking a face over there. 619 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: I hated their draft. This was I'm gonna take them 620 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: to task. Why well, we talked about passing on uniquely 621 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: gifted players that can change the course of their franchise. 622 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: They pretty much they want to know part of r 623 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: G three, who won Rookie of the Year, galvanized the 624 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: Redskins organization, got that fan base excited twice. They pass 625 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: up on Janny Johnny Manziel. They stick with Sam Bradford, 626 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: who I think might be the least inspiring quarterback in 627 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: the NFL as an eight as an eighteen thirty and 628 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: one record in four years as a starter, has not 629 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: gotten one bit better and looks to me like he's regressed. 630 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: They pick up Aaron Donald. They have Michael Brocker's who 631 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: they drafted in the top ten. They have Kendall Langford, 632 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: who is a really good defensive tackle. They signed Alex 633 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: Carrington as a free agent. They have three defensive tackles 634 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: right there. They don't need Aaron Donald like they need 635 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I like building strength on strength. Who's gonna 636 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: stop that team? Now, since you don't have any quarterback, 637 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: you can just put like twenty two defensive players on 638 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: the field. I'm sure for those seven point four snaps 639 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: a game than Aaron Donald plays, he'll be he'll make 640 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: a great impact. What are you doing? Rams? Come on? 641 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: Well that I didn't really care about that. I don't 642 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: want to watch Sam Bradford play for the Rams again 643 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 1: in that ugly dome, watching that guy overthrows receivers time. 644 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: Come on, I love it, Wesley right now, he he's 645 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: speaking my language. This is just a c poem about 646 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: the Rams, and I agree with every word of it. 647 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: And and how about the Rams? If nothing else, they 648 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: win the award for the most off the record lies 649 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: of any team. I mean, what team pretends that they're 650 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: more media friendly and it's ultimately snowballing all their buddies 651 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: in the media more than the Rams because all this 652 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: Manzel stuff and the whispers, Oh yeah, they really liked it. 653 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: Was It was like a month long campaign to the 654 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: point just about everyone was on board that this was legitimate. 655 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: Not only did they pass him up at two, but 656 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: they plass him up at thirteen, and then we get 657 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: the reasoning, Wow, they just didn't think Aaron Donald would 658 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: be there, Like, you can't pass that up. We're gonna like, well, 659 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: we like Johnny Manziela has our franchise quarterback, but since 660 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: we didn't see Aaron Donald fall into we can't take 661 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: him defensive lineman. Do you need And by the way, 662 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: and by the way, a message to Mr. High cheekbones 663 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: and flowing Sandy Hair, the general manager of that team, 664 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: let's need you better gotten this right man, because I 665 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: don't think he gets any chances if they if they 666 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: stay in neutral here after passing up all this like 667 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: amazing talent at the top of this draft and going 668 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: down a path that West seems to be of one 669 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: to ruin if if if he's wrong, he's not going 670 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: to get another draft to to and not only will 671 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: that the draft to do this and he'll be elsewhere 672 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: around the street. The ramble of botched one of the 673 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: great golden opportunities of any NFL team has had in 674 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: the last decade. From that that bounty they got for 675 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: r G three, they got this better work out that's 676 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: more half baked than me giving the Rams some love. 677 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they were coming off the worst, literally the 678 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: worst five year run in NFL history, and they've won 679 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: fourteen games the last two years. Less needs going to 680 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: be there for a long time. Doesn't really matter what 681 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: they do this year, there's matters. Greg, your pick has 682 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: not been widely popular with this group. But no, I 683 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: don't even like it. I don't even buy it. I'm 684 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: totally back off it, and I'm not even kidding. There 685 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: have been twenty two men in NFL draft history that 686 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: have been drafted with a combination of two first names 687 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: in their name, Aaron Donald being one of them. None 688 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: of them have lasted more than than three years. She's 689 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: making things up. No One. Ryan had a pretty good 690 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: career in Major League Baseball. Sport that does not love 691 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: the needle on this podcast officially put me to sleep. 692 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: I just put a hex on the Rams there doomed 693 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: to go seven and nine every single year for the 694 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: rest of eternity. I think they would sign they would 695 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: sign up for now we're at the portion of the 696 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: program where Mark is only speaking in lies. I think 697 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: it's time to go over the go get my lunch, topeboards, scoreboard, 698 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: keep that implied, all right, it's an embarrassment, and I 699 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: just want to thank our Twitter follower who keeps sending 700 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: us all the update Actually there's multiple. Tristan keeps sending 701 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: us updates. And then also we have a Twitter account 702 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: that is now keeping track of our scoreboard as it's going. 703 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: So if you guys are listening to this podcast and 704 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: you want to follow along, there is a Twitter handle 705 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: called go get my lunch exactly. It's beautiful and uh, 706 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: we don't know who runs it. No. Yeah, And not 707 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: only that, he signed up for a Gmail account to 708 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: email me the standing so I would have him for 709 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: the podcast in a Microsoft word for him. So I'm excited. 710 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 1: I love our listeners, by the way, they are great 711 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: humans across the board. I don't even need to do 712 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: any more background checking. They listened to the show and 713 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: they interact with us on social media, and that's good 714 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: enough for me. It really isn't incredible how many people 715 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: were following along, and we loved that you guys were 716 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: really into when Johnny Manzel was on the clock, could 717 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: hands this do the unbelievable and pick up seven sandwiches 718 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: at one moment. It really did raise a lot of 719 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: tension in the room. I was more excited. What did 720 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: you say on Twitter or on over instant message? Dan, 721 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea that was like ago in the 722 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: morning here, Greg, I think you said that it was 723 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: the most exciting moment you've ever had in your life 724 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: by far. That sounds right, and I will tell you that, yeah, 725 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: I mean it really it was something that it almost happened. 726 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm okay with how it played out. And and my 727 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: good buddy Mark out the player anyway, So you know what, 728 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: even though I didn't win my seven sandwiches, I'm okay 729 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: with how it played out. Wait under the radar here 730 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: NFL draft guru Mike Mayock now taking tips from Dan 731 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: Hansas for his draft. That's the victory, that's he they 732 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: perhaps he shouldn't because it didn't work out in this case. 733 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: One Twitter follower told me that exciting night of draft, 734 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: the best part for him that he's ever had in 735 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: the draft, even the dance prediction didn't come true. Was 736 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: how much tension there was leading up to the Cowboys 737 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: pick purely because of Dan's prediction. And don't and don't 738 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: forget about this, just you know, and I didn't get 739 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: it right, So that I cannot gload. But you know 740 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: I was laughed out of the room when I even 741 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: suggested that Manzel will be on the board at sixteen. 742 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: Marcus Porney at himself and shaking his said mark, all right, 743 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: maybe you weren't, but so many other gentlemen, so the 744 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: other heroes, you just think it could even be plausible. 745 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: I still don't. I don't think it was an option. 746 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it was an option. No credit, you 747 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,959 Speaker 1: guys thought he would be like the number one tick 748 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It seemed like when I like, how 749 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: to turn this into you being right? The glory, the 750 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: glory of this whole sandwich conversation needs to go to Westling, 751 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: who it doesn't have to pay for a meal for 752 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: roughly the next seven years. Yet, that's right, Chris Wesseling, 753 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: Uh somehow made out with six sandwiches on Thursday night. 754 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: Although this is to be continued, we still have a 755 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: couple sandwich propositions that are hanging for the next couple 756 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: of days. So it really doesn't matter what you are 757 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: after day one, it's what you are after three days. 758 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 1: But you're feeling pretty good. I can't hear you under 759 00:41:53,840 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: the sound of the sandwich balanche. That was just terribly 760 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: and how long were you practicing that line? I picture 761 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: you like in a in the one of the bathrooms 762 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: at the office, just saying it over and over again 763 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: in the mirror. I pictured me like Scrooge McDuck diving 764 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 1: through piles of money, except there's sandwiches. I'm guling. Don't 765 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,959 Speaker 1: hope you don't eat Matthew, Greg's daughter will not eat, 766 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: nor will my sons or Dan's child, which is yet 767 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: to be born child will not eat. Well. You just 768 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 1: you know sandwiches in your contractions. I'm glad it was Westling, though, 769 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: because Dan would have been number one in my power 770 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: rankings for most insufferable if he led You're insufferable now 771 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: and you did, I would have been the absolute worst. 772 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: I would have even hated myself. So it really works 773 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: out ultimately because I didn't, you know, and I couldn't. 774 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: I would not have been able to handle that level 775 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: of success. And the person that I would most want 776 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: to do well in this competition did did quite well, 777 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: and that's Mark Sessler, who is up three sandwiches right now. 778 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: And that's good news for the rest of us, because 779 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: a Mark doesn't like sandwiches, be he doesn't like food 780 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: or meat, So this I don't know what's really going 781 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: to be a part of this. We'll just give you, 782 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: like some fries or a slice of bread. What are 783 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 1: you gonna have, Mark, I'm I'm gonna order multiple boxes 784 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: of white rice from like a local Chinese house, high 785 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: octane want on soup. That's pretty much what Mark eats. 786 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: And and you know it was a key and and 787 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: it just makes it all the more sweet because it's 788 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: not like Mark picked any good propositions. He had ted 789 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater not getting drafted in the first round was 790 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: wrong and that West was smart to take that sandwich. 791 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: He had bordles to the Vikings and the Browns drafting 792 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: Derek Carr where he lost three sandwiches. But the key 793 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: was that he picked Johnny Manzel. He heads his bets 794 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: with these two things go into the brown So not 795 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: only did did it make your world, but you get 796 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: some sandwiches for it too well. And I've been a 797 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: fan of John Schnyder and Pete Carroll, but they are 798 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: off my list. After allowing the Vikings to sneak back 799 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: into the first round, one of one of the greatest 800 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: things in the newsroom was that last pick. When I 801 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: got traded Greg's Greg just went from elated to like, 802 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: you have got to be kidding me. I lost a 803 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 1: lot of I had sandwiches riding on that that only 804 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks would get taken in the first round, and 805 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: we got to pick thirty two, and the Seahawks were 806 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: on the clock, and then we hear that the Vikings 807 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: traded up and it was all over. And this is 808 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: how West cleaned up. He got sandwiches for me and 809 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 1: Mark on this one, so that really hurt. I am 810 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: down four sandwiches. I am in last place. Dan is 811 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: down three sandwiches. Bad job by him and the gold 812 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: Standard who stupidly dipped his toe into the big kid pool. 813 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: Wow last as only two sandwich as possible? Hello gold Standard? Sorry, uh, 814 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: I think it's because my back is to you. I 815 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: haven't interacted. Good host appreciate it. So that note on 816 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,439 Speaker 1: gold Standard, by the way, I had two uh young 817 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: women seemed to be under the age of that came 818 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: up to our area of the room and asked about 819 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: him specifically. That's a dirty lie. Your track record of 820 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: lying is off the chart. I thought the lying season 821 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: was over. Now all right? That just about wraps up. 822 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: Do we have any other final thoughts we want to 823 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: throw out there? Any picks that caught you that you 824 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: didn't like, or just moments? Or should we just let 825 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: poor Mark and Dan get to bed. We should talk 826 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: about one last thing. We haven't said a word about 827 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: the first pick in the entire draft. Who did Davian 828 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: Clowney to Devian Clowney? Devian let's go with his real 829 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: name from now on. Sure? I like you say, so 830 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: you do it. Texans passed up a quarterback, but they 831 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: get Clowney to pay with J. J. Watt. That's I mean, 832 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: knocking around some some pretty BADFC South quarterbacks. I like 833 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: it in because and they have the first pick in 834 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: the draft tomorrow, David Carr sitting there something like that 835 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: they could take the quarterback, similar to kind of how 836 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers reformed their their franchise in two thousand one 837 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: with Drew Brees taking in the second round after getting 838 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,399 Speaker 1: LT in the first. Yeah, and that that always works 839 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: out well. Taking a car in Houston, Well, agree, is 840 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: brian type quarterback and the best remaining guy. He's also 841 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 1: the second best car in his family. The first one 842 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: being the biggest quarterback bust in franchise history. Yeah, I 843 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: don't think there's I don't it would be that would 844 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: be so delicious if they took their car. But it 845 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: sounds like there's a good chance they will trade for 846 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett and that would presumably stop them from taking 847 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback that high. Maybe they would still take one 848 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: in the third or the fourth round. But if they 849 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: traded for Mallett, and suppose it was going to be 850 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: for a third round pick, maybe next year, I would 851 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: guess that would be awesome if they have four backup 852 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks on their rust. Dan, I don't don't try to 853 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: sigh so loudly that we let you off the hook 854 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: this thing. And I'm watching this in in live, living color, 855 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: and Dan is not in good shape right now. It's 856 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: operations shutdown and fell. Derek Bell, Thanks, it's too you know, 857 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: it's two in the morning. The only difference right now 858 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: is that you would be at the bar drinking at 859 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: two in the morning instead. Well, well, I guess you 860 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: do have a point there, But I do believe that 861 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: Mark and I have pulled the early shift on around 862 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: the league tomorrow, so we're gonna be uprighting, high octane content, 863 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: and I just want to get my shut eye ahead 864 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 1: of that pencil a moment in my life. I am 865 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: looking forward to everything you do. And thank you guys 866 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,479 Speaker 1: for staying up late with us, and congratulations to Mark. 867 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna do winners and losers on the site after 868 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: Friday and Saturday's rounds, but just be honest. Mark Sessler 869 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: is the big winner of the two thousand and fourteen draft. 870 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: To borrow a George bush Line. Way to go, Brownie. 871 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: It's on that note for the gold standard and Chris Wesseling, 872 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick. I'm not doing the nicknames Dan Hansas, Mark Sessler. 873 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. We will be back on Saturday night 874 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: to wrap up the entire draft, So check in with 875 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: us then we'll talk to you. L Yeah, Draft Day, 876 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: Johnny Manzil five years later, how I am out of 877 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: mass Still Draft Day A Wiggans stay winning? Oh man. 878 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: You know I had to join it one, you know 879 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: I had to joy it. Yeah,