1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, there's 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Chuck Hail Satan. This is short Stuff. You're Josh un Chuck, 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: and that's Bruce Dickinson standing right over there. For some reason. Yeah, 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: there was a zero percent chance of Iron Made not 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: making an appearance in this. You got to, yeah, I 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: mean that's I don't know if it's their best album. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Power Slave is probably their best album, but that's pretty 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: pretty far up there. Although simmer down, everybody, there's really 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: no such thing as a bad Iron Maiden album. I 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: wasn't that into them. I need to give them a shot. Yeah, 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: they age really really well. Um, it's it's just really 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: well done music. They're almost the prog band of metal 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: of metal. They're just so ridiculously talented, every single one 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: of them. So yeah, it's good stuff. I highly advise 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: you to get back in to it. Okay, I will. 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: And what we're talking about today is the number six 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: six six and our old pal Dave Rus put this 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: together for how stuff works dot com. And one of 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: the first things he says is his article is like, 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: would you buy a car with a license by ending 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: in six six six? And dude, my pickup truck has 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: six six six on the license. No it doesn't. Oh yeah, 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: we talked about it a while ago when it when 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: it came in. Well, I've delighted. I hit my head 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: since then, so I've forgotten that is it's great. You 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: need to get like some sort of graphics on the 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: side or whatever, like devil Mobile or something like that. 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: Maybe I will. Um. So the answer to that question 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: from Dave then for you is yes, there's a lot 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: of people who wouldn't who would not um, it's mostly 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: god fearing people who believe that there is a book 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: in the Bible. Well they don't believe it, like there 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: actually is a book in the Bible, but there in 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: this book, Book of Revelations, I think chapter thirteen or 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: no after three, Verse eighteen says this, here's wisdom. Let 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: him who has understand and calculate the number of the beast, 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: for the number is that of a man, and his 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: number is six six six. Yeah. So if you've ever 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: seen the movie, I mean, this has been in plenty 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: of movies, but the movie The Omen is the most 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: famous movie to make use of this because young Damien 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: and it's still one of the great moments of movie history. 43 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: When they're searching through his hair on his head. Uh, 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: and they see that six six six. It's clearly tattooed, 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: but tattooed by God, I guess, yeah, by the Holy Ghost. Yeah, 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty scary, it is. That's a good scene. 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: That's that's a good movie too. Um. But yeah, the 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: whole thing is this number. What this Bible Versus saying 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: is there's a basically Satan, the beast has a number 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: so that you can recognize them. When you see this number, 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: you can recognize that this is Satan, or an agent 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: of Satan, or somebody who is going to kill you 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: if you don't worship him, who is the converse of God, 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: who is in opposition to God, and is the opposite 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: of everything right and good. And so here me, the 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: writer of revelations, is going to to make you wise 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: to this, and just look out for six six six 58 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: And do those of us alive today, we have no 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: idea what that means, Like, how are you going to 60 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: say somebody as a number. But back in the first 61 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: century ce Um among Greek speakers, this is a very 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: common form of word play um that they would have 63 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: immediately recognized and they think that back in the day, 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: anybody reading the Book of Revelations around you know, the 65 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: first century of this, uh, the millennium before this one, um, 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: they would know exactly who the beast was and who 67 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: this was talking about. Yeah, because there weren't numbers like 68 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: we think of them in Greece at the time, and Greek. 69 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: The Arabic nibbles came around hundreds of years later. So 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: in in Greece, each letter of the Greek alphabet and 71 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: in Hebrew actually had a numeric value. So there was 72 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: this thing that we're going to talk about after a 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: message break here in a minute, called I sup sess fee, 74 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: I subsess fee. Yeah, and see added in there, keep 75 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: going sefee. Good job, it's in there somewhere. I'm that's right, 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: And that means in Greek equal in numeric value. And 77 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: that was a way, uh for in the first century 78 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: basically where you could it was sort of like, uh, 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: not Morse code, but a those games. Yeah, those games 80 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: kids play when you send like a numeric code to 81 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: someone and then they have to translate the code by 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: what letter it represents to get the final I guess. 83 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: In Christmas story, it was what drink your ovaltine. Be 84 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: sure to drink your ovaltine. It's a Crumby commercial. Yeah, 85 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, but it wasn't like you didn't need 86 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: a secret Dakota ring. Everyone walking around speaking Greek knew 87 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: that alpha was interchangeable with one, Beta was two, Pie 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: was eighty, which is weird because I thought pie was 89 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: three point one, four, etcetera. Si is seven hundred, for example, 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: and so um, if you added together letters, you could 91 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: come up with a number for that word or that name. 92 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: So you could say that a name had a number, 93 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: and that's what this is talking about. That's right. So 94 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: that's the setup, and we'll talk a little bit more 95 00:05:34,120 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: about is up sefee right after this. Okay, Chuck's just 96 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: exactly like say, if your name was spelled alpha, beta, pie, si, 97 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: your number would be seven eighty three. You could also 98 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: take seven eighty three and figure out whose name that meant. 99 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: It's way harder to do in transverse, but you you 100 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: if there's say some famous people that maybe you suspect 101 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: that the author is talking about, you could say, oh, 102 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: well does that equal or in this case six six six, 103 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: And there's one guy in particular who the writers of 104 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Revelations would have um very much focused on is potentially 105 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: the beast and agent of satan Um, who would wanted 106 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: to mark you with his number so that you couldn't 107 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: buy or sell anything without that mark, or again, who 108 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: would kill you if you didn't worship him, And that 109 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: particular guy was named Nero. Yeah, so that was a 110 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: pretty famous isap ces fee god. I keep adding an 111 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: s in there. You gotta put your word butcher apron on. Well, 112 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: it is a weird word. I s O P s 113 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: e p h y uh. But that was a very 114 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: famous one early on. That was it goes a little 115 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 1: something like this a calculation new colon nero his mother slew. 116 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: So in this case, nero equals one thousand and five, 117 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: which has the same value of the phrase his mother slew. 118 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: So basically that's like, oh my god, Nero killed his mom. Yeah. 119 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: That's the thing about the isobsess fees having like um 120 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: equal equal value is that if one word had a 121 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: numeric value too, and and that's the same as say 122 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: another word or another phrase, that meant that there was 123 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: some mystical metaphysical connection between those two. So do people 124 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: who were like, yeah, Nero's terrible, He probably murder his mother. 125 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: The fact that Nero, his mother slew and Nero had 126 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: the same numeric value of one zero zero five. That 127 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: was just proof pause ative, like you didn't need to 128 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: look any further, um, giving me my crystal ball and 129 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: my birkin stocks. Right, So you might be saying yourself, 130 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: wait a minute. You guys said Nero was one thousand 131 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: and five, But you also said that some people believe 132 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: that they were referring to Nero as the six six six. Uh, 133 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: you gotta rejigger this a little bit. In that case, 134 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: you have to use the full name Caesar Nero in Greek. 135 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Um that translated into Hebrew. Hebrew is don say Hebrew, 136 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I love it, dude. That's a much more modern version 137 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: of that word. He's my Hebrew uh n r w 138 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: n q s r, which is neuron keys are And 139 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: then that adds up to six six six. Some people say, okay, 140 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: all right, sure, why not? Um. The thing is, there's 141 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: a big objection to that one that I ran across, 142 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: and that is that Revelations was written in Greek four 143 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,239 Speaker 1: ee speakers who may not have actually known that. Um, 144 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: that you were supposed to transliterate this into Hebrew, and 145 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: may not have been familiar with Hebrew and not known 146 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: how to do it. That doesn't necessarily mean oh no, 147 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: this is wrong. Like if you're encoding a message, having 148 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: an extra step involving another language is definitely not against 149 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: the rules. But from what I can understand, this is 150 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: much more widespread and normal, uh pursuit or a diversion 151 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: this kind of sefe it is hard to say, isn't 152 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: it It is then then this would be like that's 153 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: an extra big step compared to what they normally did. 154 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: Like there's graffiti that they found in the ancient world 155 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: that uses iop sess fees. Yeah, like, hey, you know 156 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: who I'm into six, and so some lady in town 157 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: would be like, oh, I'm seven eight six. Yeah. So 158 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: some people say, I don't know about that trans trans 159 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: inslating it into Hebrew and then it making sense as 160 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: six six six. I don't know about that one. It 161 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: seems like a bit of a reach, but I don't 162 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: know enough about it. I do think it's interesting though, 163 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: that the idea that um, they were using this coded 164 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: language possibly in the Bible. Yeah, I guess it was. 165 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: It sounds like it was all the rage back then. 166 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: Oh you like that, Yeah, it was. It was very hot. 167 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: So some people who say, Okay, this is way off. 168 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't Nero because, by the way, the other thing 169 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: about neuro really kind of dates revelations, you know what 170 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's meant to be kind of a 171 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: timeless classic, and a lot of people are like, well, 172 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: the beast hasn't even been born yet, and everyone knows 173 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: that the bar code is the mark of the beast. 174 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: So the idea that it's just Nero, who has zero 175 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: effect on our world today, it doesn't. It's it doesn't 176 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: play very well that interpretation. Other people have interpreted as 177 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: meaning um that it's it's not even it's not talking 178 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: about a specific person, which is tough to get around 179 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: because the translates all of them. That I saw is 180 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: that it's a number of a man, a man, not 181 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: man meaning like humankind. It's like a human number, which 182 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: is I think exactly how Iron Maiden's guy puts it 183 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: on number of the beast. Um. But it's the number 184 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: of a man, like a specific man. But if you 185 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: throw that a out and you just take it like 186 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: it's a human number is what it means, then this 187 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: interpretation is saying that it's it's actually pointing out that 188 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: Satan is a cheap imitation, a cheap parody of God 189 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: and the grace of God, and so this is what 190 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you're looking out for. This is this is a different interpretation. 191 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: Well one thing, I know, if man is five and 192 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: the devil is six and God is seven, then this 193 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: this monkey has gone to heaven. That's right, Man, wiser 194 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: words have never been spoken. Agreed. I love that song. 195 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the point is that the symbolic number 196 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: of God is seven and Satan's is six, So it's 197 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: like a just kind of Satan's a cheap imitation of God, 198 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: so don't fall for his jam. That's right. So there 199 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: you have at six six six. It's either nero or 200 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: it's just saying that Satan is a cheap imitation of God. 201 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: But however you slice it, it's a really good Iron 202 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: Maiden album. Okay, I agreed, And that's it for Short Stuff. 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