WEBVTT - Ep. 795: Exploding Deer, Counting Elk, and MeatTheater | MeatEater Radio Live!

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<v Speaker 1>Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia met

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday November twentieth, twenty twenty five. Wish I had written

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<v Speaker 3>You nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're live from Media HQ and Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Randall,

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<v Speaker 2>joined today by my dear friends and colleagues, mister Corey Calkins,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Seth Morris. Howdy, folks, We've got a great show

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<v Speaker 2>for you today. We're gonna be talking to Franz Inglefinger

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<v Speaker 2>and elk researcher with Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got an interview with Derek de Munn, who shot an

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<v Speaker 2>exploding deer. More on that in a bit. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's fifty dollars daily prizes, and then there's the

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<v Speaker 2>Just by submitting a photo and somebody's gonna be we'll

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<v Speaker 3>Some good photos in there already, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard good things.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's scroll through them this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be tough to pick a winner.

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<v Speaker 2>But fellas, I'm happy to have you here today on

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<v Speaker 2>another Thursday. Happy to be here, but just wondering what

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<v Speaker 2>you've been up to recently. This is the part of

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<v Speaker 2>the show where we discuss our what we've been up

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<v Speaker 2>to casually.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of can't chat.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't really function mentally until I kill a deer

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<v Speaker 5>m And that's where I'm at right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this should be a good show, Yeah, Cory.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I killed an elk last week, which I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 4>tickled about. Full so now it's time for me to

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<v Speaker 4>go deer hunting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a weird, weird bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's funky. He's got five on one side and

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<v Speaker 4>then just a big black club that hangs down on

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<v Speaker 4>the other. I think his mother kicked him when he

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<v Speaker 4>dropped out of her womb.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got like a real tall time on that

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<v Speaker 2>side as well, don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>To call it.

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<v Speaker 4>His brow tie sticks up very strangely up and then

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<v Speaker 4>the main beam just goes straight down and it's all

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<v Speaker 4>black from just the blood gravity falling out. Man, he's cool,

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<v Speaker 4>that's cool. He's a snowflake, very unique. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 4>tastes so good and eating him up last couple of nights.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was, he young, I'd say it was four. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to guess.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd ever asked him.

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<v Speaker 3>Milk is like chewing on a damn boot.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, really, I don't know why, but my goodness,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to get out the meat mallet if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to do any sort of steak.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a little freezer filling of my own last

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<v Speaker 2>night night last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you didn't tell us about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Right before I went to work, our rooster was pecking

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<v Speaker 2>one of our other chickens to death, so I put

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<v Speaker 2>her in solitary confinement to let the wound heal up.

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<v Speaker 2>I see what was going and went home last night

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<v Speaker 2>and stuck a stuck a little poultry in the freezer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's great. I'd love to hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we had a better rooster that I really liked,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Snort killed that rooster. And then when Snort

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<v Speaker 2>killed that rooster, this impostor took his throat and learned

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<v Speaker 2>to crow and do all the rooster things. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>never really felt any affection towards him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he didn't earn.

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<v Speaker 2>It, he didn't. He didn't. The other one was like

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<v Speaker 2>this beautiful red rooster, and Snort killed it unceremoniously. But

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<v Speaker 2>no one's upset about that. But yeah, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>that's the excitement over at our house.

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<v Speaker 5>Cal offered to replace the poultry population after that or now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, we got three other chickens because his mom

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<v Speaker 2>was moving. Yeah, and so she gave us three of

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<v Speaker 2>her chickens. It just happened time. The timing coincided with

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<v Speaker 2>the untimely death of our rooster. And uh yeah, one

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<v Speaker 2>of one of Cal's mom's chickens was the one that

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<v Speaker 2>the the impostor, the heir to the throne was pecking

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<v Speaker 2>at so so now it's it's almost like another coup

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<v Speaker 2>because these outside chickens have now dethroned the master rooster.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about how any of this works, but.

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<v Speaker 3>All you know is that that rooster had to be

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<v Speaker 3>in the freezer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. So now we've got two roosters in the freezer.

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<v Speaker 2>Cal did the cal did a fine job with the

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<v Speaker 2>first one as penance for his dog's sins. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun, Phil. What's going on with you lately?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Goodness, you do? You really do not want to know?

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<v Speaker 6>Because the most exciting thing that's happened to me in

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<v Speaker 6>the last few days that I beat Act three of

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<v Speaker 6>a video game called Hollow Night Silk Song. It's just

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<v Speaker 6>got the secret ending, which is very important to those

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<v Speaker 6>who know what's what's the internet parlots?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it I y k y k.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Hollow Night Silks, Hollow Night Colon Silk Song.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a sequel to a video game called Hollow Night,

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to think of. Is it like an

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<v Speaker 2>Ocarina of Time type deal?

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<v Speaker 6>You do acquire items that allow you to progress to

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<v Speaker 6>new areas much like a Zelda game, so you're not

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<v Speaker 6>on the wrong track. It's called the genre is called

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<v Speaker 6>the metroid Vania because it's a games like the Metroid series.

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<v Speaker 6>In the Castle Vania series, they kind of made a

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<v Speaker 6>portmanteau of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to dig us out of this hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Phil.

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<v Speaker 6>You play as a character called and you're protecting the

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<v Speaker 6>bug kingdom of far Loom.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to keep Should I keep going?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, have we talked yet about

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<v Speaker 2>are you eating a deer at your house? Has come up?

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<v Speaker 2>It has not.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 6>My son, my twelve year old son, shot a deer

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<v Speaker 6>before I did, and we have a freezer full of

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<v Speaker 6>full of mule deer right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of family coups and impostors to the throne.

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<v Speaker 6>It says a lot about me that you asked how

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<v Speaker 6>I was doing it. Instead of saying, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so proud of my son who shot his first

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<v Speaker 6>mule deer, I said, I completed a very difficult video game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, no, but that's exciting. That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been It's been a lot of fun because we

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<v Speaker 6>also signed up for this farm seat CSA and from

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<v Speaker 6>this farm that's less than a mile down the road

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<v Speaker 6>from our house. So we've been making a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>meals with fresh ingredients, fresh ingredients and and harvested deer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been great.

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<v Speaker 2>How's he He's a couple of weeks out, now, how's he?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he ready for next fall?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he?

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<v Speaker 6>He seemed kind of just nonplussed about the whole thing, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I did it, what's the big deal? But now this

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<v Speaker 6>was his last year of being able to do it

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<v Speaker 6>as like an apprentice. So he's gonna have to go

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<v Speaker 6>through hunter safety next year. And well, I'll see if

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<v Speaker 6>he has the motivation for that. But he loves going

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<v Speaker 6>out on on on Grandpa's Grandpa's ranch and and trekking

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<v Speaker 6>about and looking for animals.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I think he'll do it. He'll go

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<v Speaker 3>through the process.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully he won't get to the point like Seth is

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<v Speaker 2>where his brain won't function until he can kill a

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<v Speaker 2>big buck, because it's important to keep some perspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll pull it back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just have a little shortage, too bad? Well should

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<v Speaker 2>we should? We move on to our first guest today,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Do it today?

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<v Speaker 2>We are joined by Montana Fish Wildlife in Parks Kalispell

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<v Speaker 2>Area wildlife biologist Franz engle Finger. Franz oversees wildlife monitoring

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<v Speaker 2>across some of the most remote terrain in the lower

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight, including an ongoing elk research project in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Marshall Wilderness. Franz, thanks for joining us today.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank it's great to be here. Thank you for making

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<v Speaker 8>the time to talk to me and hear about some

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<v Speaker 8>of the work we're doing up in northwest Montana.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're excited to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Franz, Corey here. When you hear about elk in Montana,

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<v Speaker 4>most conversations focus on areas where herds have an air

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<v Speaker 4>quoting over objective population. But Region One in northwest Montana,

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<v Speaker 4>where I was born and bred is home, which is

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<v Speaker 4>also home to a sixth of Montana's public land, which

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<v Speaker 4>should be an eye opener to a lot of folks.

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<v Speaker 4>Region one faces a very different set of challenges. Franz.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you lay out what makes elk management west of

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<v Speaker 4>the Continental Divide unique compared to the rest of the

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<v Speaker 4>state of Montana.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, sure, Corey. I think first off, one of the

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<v Speaker 8>unique things is in Region one. We have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 8>to grow elk on public land, and I think some

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<v Speaker 8>of the things that make Region one unique is a

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<v Speaker 8>abundant access. Like you talked about, we have over five

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<v Speaker 8>hundred million acres of public life and as well as

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<v Speaker 8>an additional half a million acres of private land enrolled

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<v Speaker 8>at our bark management programs, So a lot of opportunity

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<v Speaker 8>to get out of the woods and have a great hunt.

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<v Speaker 8>Region one is also in northwest Montana forested, which makes

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<v Speaker 8>hunting complicated. I think a lot of people come up

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<v Speaker 8>here for the first time and they're like, didn't think

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<v Speaker 8>we have so many trees, and so that changes how

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<v Speaker 8>you can hunt. It also changes, you know, as biologists,

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<v Speaker 8>how we can survey our populations and monarch or kren.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, flying and during aerial surveys is really only

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<v Speaker 8>effective where you can see to the you know, through

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<v Speaker 8>the canopy or where there no trees, and so we

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<v Speaker 8>have very few districts where we can actually you know,

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<v Speaker 8>do aerial surveys. And then finally, you know, with so

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<v Speaker 8>much the landscape forested, our changes in our elk populations

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<v Speaker 8>are closely tied to changes in our forest cover, and

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<v Speaker 8>so when you look at you know, history of forest

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<v Speaker 8>extraction Montana where you had a big boom from about

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<v Speaker 8>the you know fifties through the nineties and then are

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<v Speaker 8>real drop off after that. You you know, some of

0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.960
<v Speaker 8>those you know, timber cuts that really provide a great

0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.280
<v Speaker 8>habitat from a number of our ungulates have played out

0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.800
<v Speaker 8>at this point. So you can't talk about you know,

0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.360
<v Speaker 8>changes in onion population without talking about forest management, force fire.

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<v Speaker 8>And then finally, you know, Region one we're also known for,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, our recovered carnivore populations. We have healthy populations

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<v Speaker 8>of wolves, bears, lions, and so that's also in the mix.

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<v Speaker 8>Region one, you know, great white tail deer hunting. Twenty

0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.920
<v Speaker 8>percent of the state's harvest comes from northwest Montana. Good

0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.360
<v Speaker 8>black bear hunting as well, Neil dear, you know, we

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<v Speaker 8>harvest about three percent of the state and for elk

0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.520
<v Speaker 8>it's about five percent of the overall state harvest. And

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<v Speaker 8>in Region one we kind of say, you know, we

0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.679
<v Speaker 8>force elk to be moose. We bury their groceries and

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<v Speaker 8>four feet to snow and make them eat shrumped. So

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<v Speaker 8>you know, no surprise. But again, you know, many some

0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.880
<v Speaker 8>of our hunting districts are under objective and again that's

0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.560
<v Speaker 8>where we have this opportunity to grow out on public land.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, speaking of populations, you work primarily in and around

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<v Speaker 4>the Great Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex, specifically up and around

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<v Speaker 4>the South Fork of the Flathead Drainage. What have historical

0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.760
<v Speaker 4>elk populations been like in that area and what are

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<v Speaker 4>today's most recent population estimates.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, the South Fork has a long history

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<v Speaker 8>of elk numbers and elk fluctuations. I think when I

0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:23.840
<v Speaker 8>think of the Bob Marshall and the South Fork, I

0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.920
<v Speaker 8>think of three herds you've got which all summer within

0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.280
<v Speaker 8>that South Fork drainage. You have but two of them

0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.520
<v Speaker 8>those that go over to the Sun River to the east,

0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:37.240
<v Speaker 8>and those that migrate south to the Blackwater Clearwater.

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<v Speaker 3>They go.

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<v Speaker 8>They're kind of our winter birds. They bug out in

0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.080
<v Speaker 8>the winter to better winter range conditions outside the Bob.

0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.560
<v Speaker 8>And so my research right now is focused on those

0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:51.440
<v Speaker 8>hardy souls that spend the entire winter or their entire

0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.960
<v Speaker 8>life cycle within the South Fork, and there they deal

0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.319
<v Speaker 8>with you know, deep snow and e got a living

0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.040
<v Speaker 8>on the valley bottom. And then those south and southwest

0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.199
<v Speaker 8>facing slopes in terms of the history of that population

0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.040
<v Speaker 8>that that winter in the South Fork. You know background

0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.960
<v Speaker 8>the start, you know, nineteen hundreds they first started to

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<v Speaker 8>document elk over wintering in the South Fork, and there

0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:19.040
<v Speaker 8>was a series of conditions, you know, fire, isolation, limited hunting,

0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.040
<v Speaker 8>and you know, also limited pressure from predators that allowed

0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.599
<v Speaker 8>that population to balloon such that by you know, the

0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.720
<v Speaker 8>late thirties, we saw high of over thirty eight hundred

0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.920
<v Speaker 8>elk in you know, wintering in the South Fork. Granted,

0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.160
<v Speaker 8>they were also becoming alarmed by the impact that these

0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:42.200
<v Speaker 8>elk are having on range conditions. But again, you know,

0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.280
<v Speaker 8>back then, you know, things blew up and it made

0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.360
<v Speaker 8>for some of the best hunting in the country. You know,

0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.760
<v Speaker 8>the Bob Marsha Wilderness is isolated, it's rugged, it's beautiful,

0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.200
<v Speaker 8>and elk numbers like that really supported a you know,

0:13:55.600 --> 0:14:00.760
<v Speaker 8>wonderful hunting opportunity. Things have changed, several things have conspired

0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.320
<v Speaker 8>that today, over the last twenty years, we've seen numbers decline. Now,

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<v Speaker 8>when I give you population estimates from the thirties, those

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<v Speaker 8>are estimates based on on winter track counts and walking

0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.840
<v Speaker 8>boots on the ground in the winter. And then when

0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:16.960
<v Speaker 8>I talk about you know, our estimates stays. It's not

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<v Speaker 8>so much estimates as they are minimum counts. These are

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<v Speaker 8>the number of animals I see when I fly, and

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<v Speaker 8>so so it's sort of an orange as and apples comparison.

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<v Speaker 8>But what I will say is it appears that we

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<v Speaker 8>are you know, at loas we haven't seen in decades.

0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.600
<v Speaker 8>And you know, although it's orange and apples comparison, there's

0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:35.920
<v Speaker 8>certainly less fruit on the table.

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<v Speaker 4>Well with that, what steps is FWP taking to understand

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<v Speaker 4>what's driving this decline and in turn support the long

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<v Speaker 4>term herd health of these elk?

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<v Speaker 8>Sure, I think, you know, this comes down to the

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<v Speaker 8>question of, you know, what drives population change or elk populations?

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, I tend to think of, you know,

0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.840
<v Speaker 8>elk kind of the middle. There's ordered on the bottom

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<v Speaker 8>by forged production and little pressure on the top from predation.

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<v Speaker 8>It's this question of, you know, is it bottom up

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<v Speaker 8>processes habitat and forge or predators that are limiting populations?

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<v Speaker 8>And I kind of like to think of, you know,

0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.640
<v Speaker 8>elk sitting around the table playing a friendly game of poker,

0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.240
<v Speaker 8>and every season is a you know, is a hand

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<v Speaker 8>and I know that you know, habitat conditions forge production

0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.640
<v Speaker 8>that will moderate all things. And so if you know

0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.120
<v Speaker 8>you have a wet spring and you got good forge production,

0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.440
<v Speaker 8>that's like getting Delta a sixth or seventh card. But

0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.040
<v Speaker 8>if you got drought, uh, you know, fire that whips

0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.360
<v Speaker 8>through your rental range, maybe you're playing with only four

0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.840
<v Speaker 8>three cards, and then if you have a big, big snowstorm,

0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.200
<v Speaker 8>you just fold. So you know, every season it changes.

0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.200
<v Speaker 8>But again, habitat is a big player that helps moderate

0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.400
<v Speaker 8>the other factors, namely climate and predation. In terms of

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<v Speaker 8>what you know FBP is doing. You know, we use

0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.520
<v Speaker 8>information research to inform and adapt our management. And so

0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.920
<v Speaker 8>in Northway, Montana, we've got a couple of different projects

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<v Speaker 8>going on. I'll briefly touch on one and then we'll

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<v Speaker 8>dive into the work we're doing in the South Fork.

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<v Speaker 8>So we have the NOx and Elk Study, which is

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<v Speaker 8>a comprehensive study looking at elk survival, sources of mortality, predation,

0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.600
<v Speaker 8>looking at forest management and how that affects forge quality

0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.680
<v Speaker 8>and production. And there they've got about one hundred and

0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.600
<v Speaker 8>fifty callers on cow Elk. They've got another one hundred

0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.200
<v Speaker 8>and fifty they put on Neo nates that you know

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<v Speaker 8>right after birth and tracking survival, tracking sources of mortality

0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.240
<v Speaker 8>that will help inform our management statewide and especially here

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<v Speaker 8>in northwest Montana. The work I'm doing, and we're going

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<v Speaker 8>to talk about today a little bit more in depth,

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<v Speaker 8>is coloring elk in the South Fork to try and

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<v Speaker 8>tease out some of the things that are causing that

0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.200
<v Speaker 8>decline and preventing that recovery of elk in the South Fork.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, using resource to and form management.

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<v Speaker 4>So this coloring project has got must have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of specific details that you have to figure out. So

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<v Speaker 4>how are you capturing these elk? What are these callers

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<v Speaker 4>trying to measure? And what kind of data are you

0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.480
<v Speaker 4>hoping to collect from this study?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you. Yeah, So we got two approaches to catching elk.

0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.159
<v Speaker 8>We can do aerial captures. That's with higher team that

0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.760
<v Speaker 8>comes in with a helicopter and darts and immobilizes elk

0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.760
<v Speaker 8>from the air and then goes on and slaps on

0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.600
<v Speaker 8>the collar. That we can do when we're outside the wilderness,

0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.800
<v Speaker 8>but wilderness designation provides with it some additional challenges. Our

0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.960
<v Speaker 8>other option for capturing elk. Can we do this both

0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:42.080
<v Speaker 8>in wilders? Outside is ground captures where we use clover

0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.040
<v Speaker 8>traps that are baited with alfalfa hay and there's a

0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.160
<v Speaker 8>trip wire. They're basically, you know, metal cages with netting

0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.480
<v Speaker 8>and we bait the elk in there and they set

0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.680
<v Speaker 8>off the trap, and then once they're in there, we've

0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.240
<v Speaker 8>got trapped transmitters that then tell us something's there and

0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.760
<v Speaker 8>we can go and collar them. What we have is

0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.840
<v Speaker 8>we GPS callers. These are callers you can program. They'll

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<v Speaker 8>give us you know, six to twelve locations a day,

0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 8>and a tremendous amount of information you know, day night,

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.080
<v Speaker 8>bad weather as well. And if our animals stop moving,

0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.399
<v Speaker 8>we get a mortality report. I get a text or

0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.920
<v Speaker 8>an email that says your animals down and it's here,

0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.520
<v Speaker 8>and I can go in very quickly. If I can

0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.120
<v Speaker 8>get there and start to look at some of the

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.520
<v Speaker 8>factors and causes of that mortality. What we hope to

0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.760
<v Speaker 8>get out of this, you know, we have very limited

0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:36.320
<v Speaker 8>information about elk movement and vital rates within the South Fork,

0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:41.600
<v Speaker 8>so simple things like you know, adult survival, pregnancy rate,

0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.240
<v Speaker 8>some of the things that you know people thought might

0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.040
<v Speaker 8>be limiting. That's information we can tease out from this

0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.840
<v Speaker 8>limited study as well as some of those seasonal movements

0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.640
<v Speaker 8>and habitat selection. And again, all this is to help

0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:56.200
<v Speaker 8>us think about ways we can help this population recover.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, specifically the wilderness portion of this study and being

0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.560
<v Speaker 4>in an extremely remote setting. And correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>You're trying to pull this off during the winter months.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like a logistical nightmare. So what are some

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<v Speaker 4>of the key challenges of this project and also what

0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 4>keeps your team motivated to keep pushing on?

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<v Speaker 8>Sure? Sure, I think you know, to be clear, you know,

0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.480
<v Speaker 8>the men and women I work with at f to BP,

0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:28.320
<v Speaker 8>they all work in remote settings doing you know, stuff

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.800
<v Speaker 8>in rugged terrain. So what makes this unique is that

0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.320
<v Speaker 8>wilderness aspect. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.720
<v Speaker 8>some of our project supporters. You know, this project is

0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.439
<v Speaker 8>funded you know through Pittman, Robbins and Dolls these or

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 8>excise taxes on hook and bullets. So that's provided the

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 8>funding for the collaring and the helicopter captures. But it

0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.919
<v Speaker 8>was a grant from the Rocky Mountain out Foundation that

0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 8>allowed us to actually extend this work into the wilderness.

0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.880
<v Speaker 8>And so what we need is, you know, they helped

0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.920
<v Speaker 8>pay for aluminum traps that are portable enough that we

0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.240
<v Speaker 8>could pack them in. Then of course partnering with the

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 8>US four Service, they have crews that go there in

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.960
<v Speaker 8>this area and the winner to do snow surveys. They've

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 8>got the technical skills as well as you know, they

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 8>wrapped their head around working remotely very well. So they've

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 8>been a critical partner as well. But again in terms

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.680
<v Speaker 8>of some of the challenges, you know, access for sure,

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.240
<v Speaker 8>we're talking it's a two day to three day ski

0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 8>and at a minimum, and it depends on conditions. Last

0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 8>year when we went in, you know, it took my

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 8>crew about eight hours to get up over Gordon Pass.

0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.280
<v Speaker 8>The next crew that was coming in or relieve us,

0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.080
<v Speaker 8>they got hit by snow. It took them over thirteen

0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 8>hours and they were getting to the halfway point at

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.440
<v Speaker 8>about you know, nine pm at night in the dark.

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.840
<v Speaker 8>So access is a challenging and that makes also planning difficult.

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 8>You know, if I forget something, I'm not running out

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.879
<v Speaker 8>to the truck. We got to make do. If we

0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 8>have you know, a binding break like we did last year,

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.520
<v Speaker 8>you got a kind of a guiver, a fix and

0:20:55.600 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 8>so you know, there's that challenge as well. Physical demands,

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, like I said that, you know, traveling in snow,

0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.040
<v Speaker 8>just you know, keeping your body fed. I lost ten

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.639
<v Speaker 8>pounds and I don't have ten pounds to lose. We

0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:14.119
<v Speaker 8>were eating you know, candy, you know, we were you know,

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.000
<v Speaker 8>breakfast sandwiches cooked and bacon soaked in bacon Greece, and

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 8>you know, I just couldn't put on enough calories. And

0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:25.439
<v Speaker 8>then obviously the environment. We saw temperatures from you know,

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.480
<v Speaker 8>fifty degrees to negative thirty and I have a frame

0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:31.639
<v Speaker 8>of reference of what you know, negative twenty is, but

0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:33.520
<v Speaker 8>you get down to negative thirty and it's just like,

0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:35.200
<v Speaker 8>you know, that's new.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's hard.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, sounds like an adventure. Yeah it was, you know,

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.919
<v Speaker 8>it was an adventure. It was also you know, you know,

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 8>hard work, and I think important work. And you ask,

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 8>kind of what what keeps me motivated? I think two things.

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.320
<v Speaker 8>One is, you know, I feel indebted to the sportsmen

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.160
<v Speaker 8>and sports women here that you know, enjoy the Bob Marshall,

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 8>you know, care about our unguar populations or game populations,

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.480
<v Speaker 8>wildlife in general, Curious, you know what's going on. You know,

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 8>I feel like we owe them, you know, an answer

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 8>at least to try and find an answer. And then

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 8>I think the other thing that keeps to be motivated is,

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, biologists that came before me, that did a

0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.679
<v Speaker 8>lot of work to get some of the information we have.

0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 8>We had you know, back in the seventies, eighties, nineties,

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<v Speaker 8>there are a few colloring studies where you know, they

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 8>go out, they slap these callers on, but then they'd

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.240
<v Speaker 8>have to go to get locations. They'd have to fly

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:28.639
<v Speaker 8>and use VHF radios to triangulate. So took on an

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 8>immense amount of effort as well as risk to get

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.399
<v Speaker 8>those those locations. I can sit now at my desk,

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.199
<v Speaker 8>I don't but I can sit you know, back and

0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 8>every morning sip a cup of coffee and see, you know,

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.680
<v Speaker 8>what my elkor doing. And I can get a tremendous

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.720
<v Speaker 8>amount of information from these callers, and I feel sort

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 8>of you know, you know that it's important for me

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 8>to put the effort into trying and getting them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, for people who want to learn and follow along

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<v Speaker 4>as the study progresses, where can they find updates or

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<v Speaker 4>learn more or about your work?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, FMVP has some you know, Fishwife and process has

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 8>some great resources. The first off is every year we

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<v Speaker 8>put out an annual ELK report that looks at harvest

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<v Speaker 8>throughout the region. You can just google you know, FWP

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<v Speaker 8>R one ELK Report and you'll see that that's a

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<v Speaker 8>great resource. But in terms of the research we do,

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<v Speaker 8>you can also just google FWP ELK Research and that

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<v Speaker 8>will bring you to our research page. We also have

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<v Speaker 8>that from mule there and other species, but FP ELK

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<v Speaker 8>Research and you will see, you know, project annual reports

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<v Speaker 8>and summaries for just about every project we're doing, and

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<v Speaker 8>when I get to it, you'll have one for this

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<v Speaker 8>one too, So that's where information will affair great.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I could talk about this all day, just as

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 4>somebody who grew up and used to live and work

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<v Speaker 4>in the in the wilderness. But thanks for your time

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.959
<v Speaker 4>and giving us just a glimpse into your work. Research

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 4>like this plays a huge role in how Montana manages wildlife,

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<v Speaker 4>and we appreciate all your hard work, dangerous work that

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<v Speaker 4>you guys are doing to try and wrap your heads

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<v Speaker 4>around what's going on up there. So we thank you

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<v Speaker 4>for that.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, thank you. Corey Randal Seth, I really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 8>having me on and yeah, it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I do have one more really important question, maybe the

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<v Speaker 4>most important Cats or Grizz this Saturday.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh well, my son's down and Bozeman, so go cats.

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<v Speaker 3>For Cory.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, well go Griz, go Griz.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Froz.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Take care man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's wild stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah sounds like fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I know, it sounds sounds like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of work.

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<v Speaker 2>Multi yeah, like a multi day ski trip. Is I

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<v Speaker 2>could count on like one hand the number of times

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<v Speaker 2>of skied in somewhere in camped and it's not not

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<v Speaker 2>not very I mean it's fun, but it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work.

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<v Speaker 4>Just stressful being in ski boots for twenty four I

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<v Speaker 4>mean you sleep a little bit, you know. He was

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<v Speaker 4>saying how hard it is to get in there, a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of days worth of just skiing in. Imagine living

0:24:58.119 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 4>in ski boots for those who have ever slipped their

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 4>feet to them. They're not comfortable. Those guys are living

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<v Speaker 4>in them while they're back there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, might make me cry.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, most of those people, most days a lot of tears, blood, sweat,

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<v Speaker 4>and tears.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of tears, now it's time for a new segment,

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Meat Theater. Meat theater is the concept that we came

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<v Speaker 2>up yet with yesterday where we take outstanding hunting literature

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 2>and feed it into artificial intelligence and ask the AI

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<v Speaker 2>to generate a short dramatic script to be performed live

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 2>by untrained actors. And as we're brainstorming for today's show,

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.120
<v Speaker 2>we wanted to tie in the latest episode of Meat

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Eater season thirteen, which, as we all know, captures Steve's

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 2>first African safari. And what better way to do that,

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I thought, than perform a hasty stage adaptation of a

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 2>classic Ernest Hemingway's short story, The Short Happy Life of

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Francis Macomber, originally public in the September nineteen thirty sixth

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 2>issue of Cosmopolitan magazine. Guys, ready, oh manny, and we

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 2>did this, absol. We just did this once yesterday to

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 2>make sure that it wouldn't take ten minutes, and it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's give her a rip. Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not a lot of practice went into this, so action.

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<v Speaker 2>The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber on Nice Lights Phille,

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<v Speaker 2>scene one after the Lion.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, that's the wrong one. I'm already screwing this up.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, We're live.

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<v Speaker 6>It is late afternoon at a hunting camp in Africa.

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<v Speaker 6>Francis Macomber has just run like a coward from a

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<v Speaker 6>wounded lion.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 3>His wife watched it all happen. So did their pH

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Robert Wilson. No one has spoken directly of it, but

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 3>everyone knows.

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 2>How is your drink, mister Wilson?

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 4>Fine, just fine.

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<v Speaker 3>We got that lion eventually, though, didn't we Yes, we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We got him. How interesting, Margo. I I'm going to

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>clean up before dinner. You were lovely today, Darling, really

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 2>impressive stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>At the moment, Margo turns her back on her husband

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 6>and walks away.

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 5>I bolted. I just bolted like a scared little boy.

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 5>I've never done anything like that before.

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 4>It happens to everyone at some point.

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Does it happen to you? Oh? Hold on, Oh that's

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 3>double sided, paid, double pain.

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:44.239
<v Speaker 9>No, she saw it all. She'll never let me forget it.

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<v Speaker 9>Women are difficult in these situations. Can we go out tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 9>go after something else? I need to I need another chance.

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<v Speaker 4>Buffalo will go after buffalo in the morning.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, Buffalo, thank you, Thank you, Wilson, don't thank me yet.

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<v Speaker 6>That night, Margot Macomber visited Wilson's tent. Francis knew. Wilson

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 6>knew that he knew, but nothing was said. In the

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:18.919
<v Speaker 6>morning they would hunt buffalo seem to the buffalo.

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Morning the hunt begins. Well, Francis shoots three buffalo for

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 3>the first time in his life. He is not afraid.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 3>He feels it that thing he had never felt before.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Perhaps this is what courage.

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Is good shooting Macomber, damn good?

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Did you see? Did you see them drop?

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I saw.

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't afraid, not at all. I felt God, Wilson,

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I felt alive. You shot magnificently. Did you see, Margot?

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.959
<v Speaker 2>I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Wilson.

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Wilson.

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 3>One of them's just one.

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 4>Of them's just wounded. We'll have to go in after him.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Good, let's go the bush.

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 4>A wounded buff in the bush is one of the

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 4>most dangerous.

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I'm not afraid anymore. Can you understand

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 3>that I'm no longer afraid? Is it safe? Oh?

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 4>Nothing's safe, But we have to finish him.

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Then let's finish him. Margo stay here with the gun.

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Bear.

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 3>We'll be back and there it was.

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 6>Francis Macomber had crossed over just thirty minutes ago. He

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 6>had been a boy and now he was a man.

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 6>His wife knew it, Wilson knew it, and Macomber himself

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 6>knew it. Most of all, he was happy, perhaps for

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 6>the first time in his life.

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 4>There he is twelve yards away.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 3>I see him.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Christ, Oh no, the cap guns knock going off, It

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>went off. We got it, do that, Linergain Corey quickly

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Christ Francis, Oh god, Francis, is he He's dead.

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 4>The bullet hit him in the back of the head.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I tried to hit the buffalo. I had to shoot.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>It was an accident, of course it was. I thought

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I could kill the buffalo. You saw I was charging.

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 4>That's right, the buffalo was charging.

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, oh god.

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 4>You were afraid, weren't you? What just now, just these

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 4>last thirty minutes, you were afraid of him for the

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 4>first time.

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you mean.

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't suppose you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Scene three, epilogue.

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<v Speaker 6>They said it was an accident, of course, a tragic

0:30:56.320 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 6>accident during a buffalo hunt. These things happen in Africa.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 6>Missus Macomber was distraught naturally, she had tried to save

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 6>her husband from the charging animal. No one could blame

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 6>her for what happened. Robert Wilson knew he had seen

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 6>that look in her eyes when Francis Macomber stopped being afraid,

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 6>when he became, for perhaps the first time and last

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 6>time in his life, a man she could not control,

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 6>a man she did not recognize. Francis Macomber lived thirty

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 6>five years, but he was truly alive for only thirty minutes.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 6>In those thirty minutes, he was happy, and perhaps that

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 6>is longer than most men ever manage. The short, happy

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 6>life of Francis Macomber. Emphasis on short, emphasis on happy,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 6>make of it what you will.

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<v Speaker 2>End of play. Audience goes nuts.

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Do we still have viewers?

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Phil Or Pill dropped out the last year?

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 6>I think, I mean, I think we're at peak viewerships, so.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Man, we locked them in.

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow, lights are back on. Thanks for the stage lights, Phil.

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, there's dried leaves everywhere back here.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 2>That filled seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>That was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the computer did a really nice job with

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>that script. I added a few touches this morning to

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.479
<v Speaker 2>make things clearer. I thought it left a little too

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 2>much up to suggestion and innuendo. But I really liked

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 2>what the computer did with that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the power that it took for the AI to

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 6>to create that. It only drained late Lake Mead like

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 6>a couple of inches, So wow.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think it was worth Hopefully Hemingway is

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>not rolling over in his grave and catching Idaho directly

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>across from the old first Light AGEQ.

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<v Speaker 6>We have forty five new live chat comments that I'm

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<v Speaker 6>too scared to look at.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Phil, Unfortunately, it's time to take a break for some.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I haven't read the new one, so let's just

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 6>look at the old ones that I've seen. Let's see

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 6>here this is you know, it's almost Thanksgiving and we

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.959
<v Speaker 6>have more news about next Thursday's show that Randall will

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 6>talk about at the end of the show. But Kenneth

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 6>would like to know favorite turkey preps smoked, fried, or

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 6>oven baked.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, you can't beat a fried turkey.

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Fried's pretty good. I'm usually a traditional oven baked guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just the oven roast, Brian, and oven roast, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>got it, Brian. I feel like the taste of a

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>smoked or fried turkey is soured by how often people

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>like to talk about how good they are.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, you know.

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anything wrong with the good old

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 2>fashioned turkey.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing's wrong with it. Just the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 4>I've Brian and Fried and it's hard to beat that

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 4>crispy skin. It's it's not easy though. Yeah, a lot

0:33:58.440 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 4>of accidents can happen.

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>A lot of house dangerous. Be careful out there, careful,

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>thanks Againings coming up? Never bad idea to refresh yourself

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>on fire safety. Make sure those extinguishers are where they

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 2>should be, et cetera, et cetera.

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Don't fright in your garage.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>That's for Rick Huttons. He'll tell you all about fires.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to bring this up live just to hold

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 6>everyone responsible accountable. Mogre says that he still hasn't received

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 6>any news about his cookbooks. So oh so me, Jake Corey, whoever,

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 6>we need to get this man his cookbooks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the backstore on this. Do we owe him?

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 6>We owe won a silly what was it like, like

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 6>sort of a caption contest thing, I don't remember what,

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 6>but Brody picked him as one of the winners. And

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 6>this is embarrassing to receive he's supposed to receive signed cookbooks.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as I want to get his cookbooks, I

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 2>think we should have swept this under the rug.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 3>We did that.

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<v Speaker 6>We did that a couple of weeks ago. I refuse.

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<v Speaker 6>I respect the man too much.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll get those.

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<v Speaker 2>Cookbooks if I have to fly over to Hungary myself

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 2>and deliver them.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Morgar, just to put water under the fridge here, I

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 4>am replying to your email with the tracking number of

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 4>your cookbooks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's some CS right there. Wonderful there. Hopefully that

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<v Speaker 3>clears everything up.

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<v Speaker 2>Apologies, Mogor.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see holiday hunting traditions on either Christmas or Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you guys do if anything? Hmm, that's from Trey.

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>We don't have traditions. We'll probably go out this Thanksgiving

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 2>morning to shoot a Sydney still looking for a deer.

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, shot my first bowl the day after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't really like how many people are in

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 2>the woods around Thanksgiving. Not not that it's a bad thing,

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>but for my own enjoyment.

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Event, it's a big tradition.

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like around Montana people just go out in

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<v Speaker 2>huge numbers right around Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, usually if I'm in Montana for Thanksgiving, I

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 5>usually do some sort of hunt Thanksgiving Day or yeah,

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 5>Thanksgiving Day morning, whether it's like a dough hunt or

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 5>upland hunt or something.

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<v Speaker 3>But this year I'm going.

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 5>To be back in Pennsylvania and the rifle season opens

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 5>the Saturday after Thanksgiving there. Oh, so it's like Thanksgiving,

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 5>then Friday, go to deer camp, and then Saturday wake

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 5>up in deer hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful.

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all lined up.

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<v Speaker 3>Right on. This is sort of a call to action.

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<v Speaker 6>This is from Ben and I was unaware of this,

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 6>mostly because I edit Cal's podcast and I don't think

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 6>he's talked about it, but he probably will on Monday's podcast.

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 6>But Ben says, any of my fellow Wisconsin nights in

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 6>the chat, please be sure and call email your reps

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 6>for the Sandhill crane hunting bill. Apparently there were lots

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 6>of opponents at the public hearing yesterday, and I looked

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 6>it up and apparently in twenty ten there was a

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 6>management plan developed by the Mississippi and Atlantic Flyway Councils

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 6>that would call for a potential crane hunt once numbers

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<v Speaker 6>exceeded aroun between thirty eight thousand and sixty thousand birds,

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 6>and estimates are now in the one hundred thousand range.

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 6>So get out there, Wisconsin. I let them know that

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 6>you want a sand Hill crane hunt.

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's gonna stand up and advocate for hunting seasons if

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>hunters themselves don't do it. So get out there, gang.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Thank you Ben for bringing this to our attention.

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 6>I haven't looked at all the comments regarding meat theater yet,

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 6>but this is from Afro Man. I don't know about this.

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Boys. What happened to one minute fishing?

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:29.240
<v Speaker 2>It's a fair point.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's a fair point.

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest.

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure this is the only negative one and all

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 6>the other ones to be honest, mister man.

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 2>We we're well aware that this would be a polarizing segment.

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 6>Adam says, is it safe to return yet? Yes, Adam,

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 6>we're now in the listener feedback section. If you dipped out,

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 6>please come back. But Derek says, it's going to be

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 6>nominated for an Emmy, So I'm excited to put that on.

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll take yeah.

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, even if we don't win an award, I

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>hope it inspires some audience members to go out and

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 2>read the sh short Happy Life of Francis Macomber. It's

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>a great story if you like gunshot accidents or maybe

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 2>not accidents, cuckolded marriages, and uh hunting in Africa. So

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>highly recommend some of Hemingway's finest work.

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 6>Dan is asking what the weirdest thing you guys have

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 6>ever found inside a critter is.

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Brodheads.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I shot a bowl one time that had a

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 2>broadhead that had gone through the the spinal what the

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the little bow of the ridge that goes along the spine,

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and it had it had gone through and then lodged

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 2>in the opposite side backstrap poking out. So when I

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>was cutting down, my knife hit the like where you

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>had threaded onto the shaft, into the shaft.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I shot a turkey to spring the head an air

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 3>rifle pellet in it.

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Really, I we ate rabbit. And I can say this

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 2>because the restaurant's closed. Fabulous restaurant and missula and we

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>got a rabbit that had an air rifle pellet in

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 2>it at the restaurant.

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Really yeah.

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>And we called the restaurant and they were like, these

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 2>are raised in the bitter it like in an open not.

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was not like open range, but they're

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 2>like some kid might have driven by and plunked one.

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Geez.

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>So wow, Corey weird stuff and animals.

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 4>Let's see. I had a client catch a cutthroat that

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 4>had a snake coming out of its anus. I believe

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 4>it was a garter snake. I couldn't help myself and

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 4>I pulled it out still and it just kept coming.

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Was it digested like it had gone in the front

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>end or was it still thrashing around like it had

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 2>gone in the back end.

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 4>The snake was dead. Fish was very much alive, but

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 4>it was the tail of the snake was already coming

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 4>out of the fish, so I just couldn't help him

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 4>pull out.

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>He was still hungry too. Phil still playing with the

0:39:56.440 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 2>cat gun over there. I think the critics Phil just

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 2>ad the cap gun. I think the critics of that

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 2>performance should know that Phil brought in a cap gun

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 2>that would have really added a lot of rial.

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the gunshots would have been far more realistic had

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 2>the cap gun functioned. And also Phil, in practicing for

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>his match strike. When Wilson lights his cigarette, Phil burned

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 2>one of the microphones in the studio.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 6>I also didn't I didn't hold the match close enough

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 6>to the mic, so it wasn't as impactful to it again.

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that sounds good. Anything else in the chat there, Phil.

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think we can move on and tackle things

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the show.

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Alrighty, are is it a Christmas ornament?

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Christmas ornament? Anybody were supposed to talk?

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Shameless plug?

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 3>We kind of are.

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.439
<v Speaker 4>It's hanging right here, yeah at the media dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>Our next guest today is Derek Dumont, a hunter, photographer

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and the host of the th eight Outdoors podcast. You

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 2>might know him from the viral video where a routine

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.280
<v Speaker 2>deer hunt turns surreal after his bullet hit a collar

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 2>deer and made the collar explode on impact. What Yeah, Derek,

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey guys, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>So for folks who may not know you yet, can

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<v Speaker 2>you give us a little background on your story.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, my name is Derek. I'm a T eight paraplegic.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 10>It's out in Utah on a c W m U hunt.

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 11>That's a that's a tag that they get out in

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 11>Utah for landowners who have more than like five thousand

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 11>acres get some tax revenue.

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 10>And stuff like that.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 11>But yeah, it was a a couple day hunt, and

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 11>we're going for known giants in the area, so we're

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 11>going for a giant. But yeah, I didn't expect.

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 10>The smallest deer I've ever shot to be the most

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:56.439
<v Speaker 10>popular deer I've ever shot.

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 2>So tell us about We're gonna pull up the video

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<v Speaker 2>here in a second, but tell us about how as

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.879
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned your paraplegic, how how are you hunting, what's

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the what's sort of the style or sort of adaptive

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 2>equipment that you used to hunt?

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<v Speaker 11>So on I'll hear in my local mountains, I like

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 11>to mountain bike and we'll strap a little made a

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 11>little mcguivert a trailer and we'll I'll throw gear and

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 11>stuff on the trailer and me and a buddy will

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.399
<v Speaker 11>smash out on the mountain bikes and and get get

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 11>as deep as we can.

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 10>Either that and I got one of those action track chairs.

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.879
<v Speaker 11>It's uh it's those wheelchair that looks like a tank

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 11>and uh so those work.

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 10>Those work well, although the battery dies pretty quick and you.

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 11>Want to get stuck up on the back country with

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 11>a yeah, five pound wheelchair.

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's not ideal, not at all.

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 10>But on this particular, I was able to.

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 11>So since I'm a paraplegic and I'm in a wheelchair,

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 11>I have a license through the State of Utah DNR

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 11>to hunt from a vehicle, any four wheel drive vehicle.

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 11>So so that's where this hunt was able to.

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 10>So you accomplished.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>So you guys are out looking for deer in the

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>morning and you're you're hunting from the vehicle. What did

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 2>this deer? Did you know it had a collar on?

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean to just sort of walk us through like

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 2>what you were thinking up until the moment of the shot.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, So it was actually the very last day, last

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 11>afternoon of the hunt, so it was, and there was

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 11>probably twenty minutes.

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 10>Of legal shooting and light left.

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 11>We're driving back down the lodge and at this point

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 11>I just told the landowner was that he was driving.

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 11>I was like, hey, you know, anything with antlers, I

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 11>would like to at least put some of me in

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 11>the freezer because I was like taking my old man

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 11>on hunts with me, So just anything we could munch on.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 11>But when we're coming coming around the corner and it's

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 11>absolutely pouring rain, you can't really can't hear it in

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 11>the in the video that I posted just microphone wise

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 11>wasn't working out well.

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 10>But coming around the corner and this.

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 11>Little fork he just pops up out of his bed

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 11>and is staring at us. Because, like I said, it

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 11>was pouring rain and we weren't expecting to see anything.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 11>So this guy popped up and then just staring at us,

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 11>probably is probably about ten yards off the road, and

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 11>land landowners like here's your chance. I was like, all right, cool,

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 11>got got my rifle set up and he had he

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 11>had glass on it, he had his binos on it.

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:41.839
<v Speaker 11>And I got into the optic. I was like, it's

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 11>got a collar. He's like, it's all good. You can,

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 11>you know, take it that well. And so he wanted

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 11>me to shoot it where the neck meets the body,

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 11>since it.

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 10>Was raining so hard the you know.

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.880
<v Speaker 11>If you would have hit it somewhere else, the blood

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 11>trail would have probably been washed away pretty fast.

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 10>It was rain rain really hard that day.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 11>So I aimed right where the neck meets the meets

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 11>the chest, right there in the brisket area. Saw the collar,

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 11>aim underneath of it, and I hit the lithium battery

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 11>on the collar and and yeah, the.

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's let's let the video.

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 10>Explosion, I thought the deer went sky high.

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>And there's phil can you pull off that video?

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.280
<v Speaker 2>And I told Derek before we got started, like I

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>someone set this to us and said, have you seen

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 2>this video of a deer exploding when the collar gets hit?

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 2>And I thought, Oh, we're gonna get like a little sizzle,

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, or like a couple of sparks. But the

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>video is, uh is something let's see here the yeah getting.

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:59.760
<v Speaker 6>Set out of the shot takes aim.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Kaboom and it's it's like a yeah. I mean for

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>folks that aren't listening are watching, excuse me, for the

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 2>folks who are listening and not watching, Yeah, it looks

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 2>like a tannerite went off. So Derek, what, what's the

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 2>first thing in your mind?

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 3>That?

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's crazy. So you pull the trigger and

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 2>there's one big boom and then another big boom. What's

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the first thing goes through your mind?

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:27.760
<v Speaker 10>Well?

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 11>It was funny because there was there was a good

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 11>fifteen seconds of silence in the truck, like we all

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 11>just sat there.

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 8>And just stared at the fifteen foot tall.

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 11>Pile of smoke, and we all just literally just sat

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 11>there and I was like, uh, they and the deer

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 11>you guys got out here, you know, and the landowners

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 11>like I've been hunting my land for fifty years and

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 11>I have never ever seen that, and we're Yeah, it

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.719
<v Speaker 11>was just mind blowing and wasn't expecting it.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 10>And honestly, going going up to.

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 11>The deer, I thought there was gonna be a lot

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.919
<v Speaker 11>of damage, but there was absolutely no damage to the deer.

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 11>It was literally just the battery exploded and you could

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 11>see where my bullet went through. The went through the neck,

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 11>dropped it right and it's right in its.

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Track, So yeah, you'd hope so with that impact.

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, right, there was a shooting a two forty three

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 11>and it hit the hit that battery and it's crazy.

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 11>You could slow it down and there's a giant flash

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 11>of light, sparks flying ten fifteen feet in the air,

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.800
<v Speaker 11>and then that smoke got a good fifteen twenty feet

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:37.959
<v Speaker 11>in then wow up in the forest there.

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 6>So Derek, we got a question from Seth who asked

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.279
<v Speaker 6>how far did it run after that?

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 10>About two inches? Luckily it was a clean ethical shots,

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 10>so he dropped right right.

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, uh, no blood trailing needed. Did did wildlife fit?

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you so you posted this on your Instagram

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 2>channel and or on your Instagram feed and then it

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 2>went viral. Can you tell us like, did wildlife officials

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>reach out to it all or what was sort of

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 2>the reaction that you got after you posted this.

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 11>So we were driving down to the lodge when this happened.

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 11>Before we got to the lodge, after we threw the

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 11>deer in the truck, we were already on the phone

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 11>with Utah DNR and and they congratulated me. They said,

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 11>you know, great shock, congratulations. And they asked what condition

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 11>the parlor was in and it you know, we explained

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 11>it and they're like, oh, you go ahead, keep the caller.

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 11>It's no of use to us. And they even emailed

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 11>me the migration charts.

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool, so nice.

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 11>I got to see the summer range, its winter range,

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 11>and its year round range, and that deer specifically migrates

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 11>twenty one miles round trip from its summer round to

0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 11>the winter grounds.

0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:59.320
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 10>It was pretty cool of that deer put on some miles.

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whenever I shoot a deer, I always like wonder

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 2>what it's individual story is, and it's like you're never

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 2>going to get the chance to know that unless it's

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 2>like this as an exploding collar, unless that's an exploding collar. Yeah,

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 2>so is that gonna go on the Uh You're gonna

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 2>do a euro mount and hang the collar on it

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 2>or what's the plan there?

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 10>I have a euro amount and I have the collar

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 10>hanging hanging from it.

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do.

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 10>So, it was it was cool.

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 11>I got, you know, and you asked about like the

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 11>like what people said about it afterwards.

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 10>But I got a.

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 11>Lot of people, you know, people who don't read the

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 11>captions because I listed what happened in the entire hunt,

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 11>why I was shooting from a vehicle, right, why it

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 11>exploded x y Z. Because they got a lot of

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 11>hate from shooting from a vehicle, But people didn't you know,

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 11>special situation.

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Derek, I know you use your platform to

0:49:56.960 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>advocate for hunters with disabilities, and it's an important message

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 2>and I think which you just brought up there, like

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of you know, ignorance out there, not

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 2>only in the hunting community but outside of the hunting

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:12.359
<v Speaker 2>community about folks getting outdoors in different ways. Can you

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 2>can you share some of your like advocacy message with

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 2>with our audience and kind of what what would you

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 2>want other hunters to understand about what it takes to

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 2>get you know, for example, a paraplegic like yourself outside.

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it's you know, every every state out there offers a.

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 10>Shoot from a vehicle.

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 11>It doesn't have to be a car, could be any

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 11>any wheeled vehicle from the road.

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:43.880
<v Speaker 10>You can go out, you can get those.

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:47.919
<v Speaker 11>It's you know, it's tough like I wasn't I wasn't

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 11>born paraplegic. You know, I got got into a bad

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 11>accident and just just trying to fill the freezer like

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 11>anybody else, you know, and players there's a lot less

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 11>of us in this position. Then people tend to think

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 11>people tend to think, oh, you know, I don't know,

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 11>shooting from a car does get abused by a lot

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 11>of people. But in reality, like there's no really other

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 11>way to do certain types of hunts, Like I still

0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.879
<v Speaker 11>like to hop hop in the blind you know, choke points.

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.840
<v Speaker 10>Food plots, water sources, all that that. That's a lot funner.

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:26.720
<v Speaker 11>But sometimes when you're hunting big steep, rugged mountain terrain,

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 11>you know, you're obviously not gonna.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 10>Be rolling your wheelchair through that. So yeah, hopping hopping

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:33.320
<v Speaker 10>in a sideby or a car.

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Really, yes, so maybe it really helps, you know.

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 10>I'm just trying to feel a freezer.

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 2>If folks see someone shooting from a vehicle, don't rush

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to judgment about who's doing that and why, right.

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 10>Exactly.

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, some some disabilities are super visible, you know, and

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.240
<v Speaker 11>some aren't. If you see me rolling down the street,

0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 11>like this guy's in a wheelchair, you know. But there's

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 11>a lot of there's a lot of disabilities out there

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 11>that you can apply for a shoot from a vehicle

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:09.760
<v Speaker 11>car that you you couldn't tell just by looking at somebody,

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 11>you know, you have to dive deep into their.

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 10>Story, hear what they're all about. So yeah, just don't

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 10>rest rush to judgment.

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:21.440
<v Speaker 11>We're all out here just trying to feed our families.

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, Derek, if folks want to hear more about your

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 2>story and learn more about your work, where can they

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 2>find you?

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:34.279
<v Speaker 11>So my I do a lot of video logging about

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:38.760
<v Speaker 11>my hunts and stuff on Instagram the T eight Underscore Outdoorsmen,

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 11>and it's the same for a YouTube channel, T eight

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 11>Underscore Outdoorsmen.

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.440
<v Speaker 10>And if anyone has a.

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 11>Chance to hop on or would like to listen to

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 11>th eight outdoors podcast, the podcast I started for people

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 11>with disabilities to go out there and hunt and just

0:52:55.560 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 11>their extraordinary stories and how differently logistics apply to their

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.399
<v Speaker 11>certain hunts about I got buddies and shooting big ol'

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 11>l dragging them out with chairs and so just yeah,

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:11.239
<v Speaker 11>if you hop on and give it a check out

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 11>and see what we have to do logistically, it'd be

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 11>cool just to bring awareness.

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Derek, thanks, thanks for sharing your story, thanks

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 2>for chatting with us, and uh appreciate the work you're doing.

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, hopefully the next year you pull the trigger

0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and will be a little less uh eventful surprising.

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it was the most popular forky there on the

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 11>internet for probably about two weeks.

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, Derek, hope you're having a good fall, and uh

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll chat with you again here soon.

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 4>Appreciate you guys, Thank you, thank you Derek Man.

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Every time I watch that video, it doesn't get old.

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:55.800
<v Speaker 2>It still shocks me. It's still crazy. I encourage everybody,

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 2>if you're just listening, go either check this out on

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.919
<v Speaker 2>YouTube or check out Derek since a grand page because

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a wild wild This brings us to our next segment,

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and that's a hot tip off.

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:23.879
<v Speaker 12>That's salty, That's salty.

0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 4>Love it.

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Hot tip Off is where two listeners go head to

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:32.879
<v Speaker 2>head with competing pieces of advice, and after we hear

0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 2>each tip, we'll declare which one is better, and that

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 2>will be by Wheel.

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:42.839
<v Speaker 6>I mean, the audience will choose which I will throw

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 6>up a pole in the live chat after we watch

0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 6>the hot tips.

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, please, you don't mind, Phil, Please do that And

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.320
<v Speaker 2>if you have a hot tip, take a one minute

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:54.839
<v Speaker 2>video on your phone and email it to Radio at

0:54:54.880 --> 0:54:57.080
<v Speaker 2>the meat Eater dot com with the subject line hop

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>tip Off. This segment is brought to you buy our

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:04.160
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0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:07.080
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0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:11.000
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0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Brent will be very pleased with that.

0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Uncle brand will like it.

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:19.919
<v Speaker 2>All right, Phil, let's hear this week's hot tips.

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Ethan Hole.

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 13>Hey, this is Ethan from Finalac Wisconsin, and my hot

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 13>tip is, as we all know, we need a lot

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.880
<v Speaker 13>of room to do our cutting. A lot of times,

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 13>big cutting boards aren't cheap. So what we like to

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 13>do is we go down to the local home improvement store,

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 13>and for thirty dollars you can get a whole four

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:52.640
<v Speaker 13>foot piece of scrap cutoff clearance, lamb and ade countertap.

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 8>The worst great is a cutting.

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 13>Board, and we have three of them, so we get

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:02.840
<v Speaker 13>twelve feet of cutter space for cutting and butcher. So

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:05.879
<v Speaker 13>for one hundred and twenty bucks, we have twelve whole

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.080
<v Speaker 13>feet of basically cutting bar.

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Thanks bye, nice Yeah.

0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Billy Shaw, Hey everybody. Billy here in Minnesota with a

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:22.320
<v Speaker 1>hot tip for you. In response to Spencer's question about.

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 7>The best type of gas tank to use, I've got

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 7>a better solution. Buy siphon hos anywhere on the internet

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 7>or maybe at a hardware store. It's got a check

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:35.280
<v Speaker 7>field on this side. You put your fuel tank anywhere

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 7>above the fuel fill on your vehicle, put it in

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:41.759
<v Speaker 7>the vehicle, and then you take this end and you

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:45.440
<v Speaker 7>just ham it down like this, and that gets the

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 7>fuel flowing from the tank into your vehicle. This way,

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 7>if you don't have a fuel gage, you can look

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 7>inside and see how full it is, so you're not

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 7>gonna spill everywhere. If you're using a regular tank, there's

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 7>no leaking from the tank. And then when you're done,

0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 7>you just pull up from the fuel tank and the

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:06.839
<v Speaker 7>rest of it. Siphon's down into your vehicle. Much better

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.320
<v Speaker 7>solution for filling things like sow and bills, four wheelers

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 7>inside by sides.

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 4>Mmmmm amen, very familiar with that device exactly. Yeah, good

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 4>thing to have in your truck.

0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Get one at Harbor Freight. I wonder if poll is live.

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Get in there.

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 5>I wonder if Chester knows Ethan from Fondlise. That's where

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 5>Chester's from.

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Get out fd Man, a.

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Lot of great hot tips coming. How many people possibly

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 2>live in Fondolac.

0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know what the population is.

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you like the countertop trick?

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I do. Yeah.

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 4>When we redid our counters, I saved two big sections

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 4>just for that very thing, So I do that.

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:48.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny when we redid our counters. When

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 2>we redid our counters, I saved all of the butcher block,

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 2>and I just cut it into weird shapes. I've got

0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 2>a piece of butcher block with a with a barrel

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 2>of ice on it, so I can pull barrels and

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff on my truckbed, and I can also put a

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 2>reloading I can put a press on there and reload

0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 2>cases at the range if I'm doing some experimenting with

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 2>seating depth things like that. But I have all this

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 2>countertop just leaning up against the walls in my barn.

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:18.040
<v Speaker 3>I just like that.

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could go to you don't even have

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to go to home depot. You just go to like

0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>the the home salvage store.

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I like to find all my weird stuff.

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 5>We did butcher block as well, and yeah, my leftover

0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:31.400
<v Speaker 5>chunk is a cutting board now.

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love any hot tip that involves recycling stuff.

0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 7>Good.

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I also feel like anything we can do

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 2>to get at big gas, can you know, fight the man,

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 2>fight the man and his few mitigating gas cans.

0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like that. It's kind of tight.

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:50.040
<v Speaker 6>So I'm gonna give you another thirty seconds to get

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 6>these last votes and maybe you can sway sway the

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 6>tide here.

0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 2>How many votes total do we have? Phil?

0:58:55.800 --> 0:59:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Right now? We have eighty eight votes, but people watch, come.

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<v Speaker 4>On, democracy is a right, yeah, even if you're driving,

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<v Speaker 4>get on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 6>This this is this does kind of match up with

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<v Speaker 6>the American electoral as far as population to people.

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<v Speaker 2>Who actually we're probably higher, yeah, probably performing, So you

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<v Speaker 2>take that back you guys are doing great. Let's give

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<v Speaker 2>it another five seconds and then we'll call it, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's how they do elections.

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<v Speaker 8>Too close to Cole.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, that's that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, pulls over. I was gonna say, I've the which

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<v Speaker 3>Steve has one of these now, but we first saw

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<v Speaker 3>it from the the guys that do some flying for

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<v Speaker 3>us when we mosse on.

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<v Speaker 5>Up in Alaska. But they have one of those siphoned

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<v Speaker 5>hoses with it in the middle of it. They have

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<v Speaker 5>a shut off valve.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>When you know, when it gets full, they can just

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<v Speaker 3>hit that shut off valve.

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<v Speaker 2>That's smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is like a hot tip. With fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the vote, the winner is.

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<v Speaker 2>Ethan with the.

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<v Speaker 3>Lamon at countertip.

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<v Speaker 2>Congrats. I also think my favorite part about Ethan's video

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<v Speaker 2>is just the inside of that shop oh yeah, or

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<v Speaker 2>barn or whatever it is. It's like that guy is

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<v Speaker 2>deadly serious about cutting up deer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the folks in the in the Upper Midwest

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<v Speaker 5>take their shop serious.

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<v Speaker 2>I think good shop culture.

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<v Speaker 3>They like to hang out in the shops, which I enjoy. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Ethan, uh we should he email email radio at the

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<v Speaker 2>Medeater dot com. Our producer will reach out email Ethan,

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<v Speaker 2>our producer will reach out to you and get you

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<v Speaker 2>that meat Eater branded case trapper knife. Congrats on your victory,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, thanks for submitting your tip. And thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>our good friends at case Knives for sponsoring this week's

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<v Speaker 2>hot tip off. All right, Phil, let's get back in

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<v Speaker 2>the chat. See people saying.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been I've been kind of absent from the chat

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<v Speaker 6>for a little bit. Oh knobs back here. Yeah, pil

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<v Speaker 6>Steve were here, he'd be acting the exact same way.

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<v Speaker 6>He'd talk about how he's already posted the job listing

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<v Speaker 6>looking for a podcast. But Randall, I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>like this one. This is a question from Mason. I

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<v Speaker 6>need some gun selling advice. I am trying to sell

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<v Speaker 6>my grand prize twenty fifth anniversary Christensen's Arms travers in

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<v Speaker 6>three hundred win bag serial. You know o case here, Remember,

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<v Speaker 6>he says, He says it's been on gun Broker for

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<v Speaker 6>a while and I'm not getting much traction. I live

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<v Speaker 6>in northeast Ohio, Hey, and thought about shipping it to

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<v Speaker 6>a gun shop out west. Do you have anything to

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<v Speaker 6>add here?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good question. It's a good question. I would be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'd get it on gun Broker. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you'd what you'd get for that if it's

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<v Speaker 2>not getting much traction on gun Broker. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you might reach out to some gun shops out west

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<v Speaker 2>that do a lot of I mean there's there's service

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<v Speaker 2>and shops that'll list your stuff on gun broker and

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<v Speaker 2>do like a very high end bespoke auction page to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe get some eyeballs. But I mean I always sell

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<v Speaker 2>stuff just by plugging it into different forums. And this

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<v Speaker 2>may not be what you want to hear. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to sell a gun, I low ball myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't I lower my standards so that I

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<v Speaker 2>just sell it quickly. I don't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>experience like selling high value items for what they're worth

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<v Speaker 2>or more. Typically, I just am moving something to move

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<v Speaker 2>on to the next thing. So Seth, you have thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean my gun selling advice is don't sell guns,

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<v Speaker 5>just keep them, hoard them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, put them in a safe.

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<v Speaker 4>Get ready for Yeah. Yeah that's a beautiful rifle.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Phil, what else we got here? Good luck

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<v Speaker 2>to you, Mason.

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<v Speaker 6>I picked this question because it's incredibly vague, but I

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<v Speaker 6>think it could open up a discussion of what this

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<v Speaker 6>actually means. But sisk Grant twenty six asks, what's what

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<v Speaker 6>is the most admirable non game animal? I think you could. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>admirable could mean different things to different people. I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's pretty subjective. So so if you guys want to

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<v Speaker 6>hash that out, I think that'd be fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably a grizzly bear for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess in the lower forty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's where you're at.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's cheating. I would say, if we're going globally,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to say it's one of the great apes,

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<v Speaker 2>either a gorilla you're here, yeah, chimpanzee or in orangutan.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a lot of respect for those creatures. I

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<v Speaker 3>like the wolverine, but you can get them in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not down here though, Yeah, Canada wild animal Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I'm wondering about things like possums.

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<v Speaker 5>You can get them, yeah, all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't call it like a game game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fair. Yeah, you're talking to the trapper here, armadillo? Nah, cheat, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think the great apes. I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna plant my flag, and these guys don't have good answers.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, we locked it down, Bill, did we did we

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<v Speaker 3>get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we squeeze enough juice out of that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>I thought you guys might squeeze a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 6>but hey, we'll work with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of good questions in there.

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<v Speaker 6>It's cord asked. I think I know the answer that

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<v Speaker 6>set Set's answer. What is the weirdest health condition slash diagnosis?

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<v Speaker 6>Y'all have contracted from the outdoor lifestyle. This includes friends

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<v Speaker 6>or pets.

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<v Speaker 2>Just mostly diarrhea. Okay, just a lot of diarrhea.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Jordia, m m yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Kept it pretty safe and healthy out there. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know Set's mental breakdown here. Not shooting a deer kind

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<v Speaker 4>of got me concerned, but oh yeah, it's that'll get

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<v Speaker 4>fixed here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something I got to work through myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I like there's cuts, there's I don't have any trick

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<v Speaker 2>and nosis stories weird insect bites and beastings, including pets.

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<v Speaker 2>We had one of our dogs this past winner.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I could remember the name of it. But

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<v Speaker 2>essentially what she did was poke a hole in her

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<v Speaker 2>abdomen with a stick and then it filled up with

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<v Speaker 2>air because her body was working like a bellows and

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<v Speaker 2>it sucked all this air up under the skin and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like she had bubble wrap under her Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I always think it's fun when there's something weird

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<v Speaker 2>with your dog's body and you like google what could

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<v Speaker 2>this possibly be, and then you figure it out. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bizarre one. I wish I could remember

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<v Speaker 2>what that was.

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<v Speaker 3>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we told a doctor friend of ours about

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<v Speaker 2>it and he's like, oh, yeah, bubble wrap and we're

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, and he's like, oh, He's like that happens

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, and you give chest tubes. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, drained the air. Yeah, so wild. Anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I got so far, so good.

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<v Speaker 3>Great hitting these.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of the park, I phil.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, guys are doing great.

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<v Speaker 6>On the note of diarrhea, friday Eras asked Randall, would

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<v Speaker 6>you rather give a pot dogs or briskool?

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<v Speaker 8>Now that's a question.

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<v Speaker 3>Randle's getting real serious.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think the honest answer, Well, there's two answers.

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<v Speaker 2>If I could give up beer, I would that's a

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<v Speaker 2>big as I don't but I don't think I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been able to make that commitment to myself

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<v Speaker 2>and my loved ones. So I think the honest answer

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<v Speaker 2>is I would have to give up pot dogs. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you were gonna, like, you know, brainwash me somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>like office space, hypnotize me, I'd probably say get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the drinking, because the drinking actually leads to more

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<v Speaker 2>hot dog eating. Yeah, but he says, bruskies, could you

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<v Speaker 2>you could? You could resort to, like become a whine.

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<v Speaker 5>Up brown liquor or something, you know, Oh, I can't

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<v Speaker 5>drink the spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I get out of control. I get out

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<v Speaker 2>of control. Well, yeah, before we I mean, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good question. I wish I had a better answer

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<v Speaker 2>for you. If Yeah, if it was like someone said,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to give up one or the other, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's all on you and your self control. Otherwise I'll

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<v Speaker 2>find you and you know, put a bullet in your head,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd probably say hot dogs. It would be easier to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I could hypnotize myself, i'd say beer because

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably the healthier choice. Great, great, knocked another one

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<v Speaker 2>out of the park.

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<v Speaker 6>Keeping come and fill here's one back here's a question

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<v Speaker 6>that I can contribute a little something to. Is this

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<v Speaker 6>from Wally Bloomer? Not sure what size brooks Down sweater

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<v Speaker 6>to buy? I wear a large sweatshirt and a medium

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<v Speaker 6>T shirt. Which way would you go? Yes, I would

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<v Speaker 6>say large because I wear a large T shirt, So

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<v Speaker 6>I'm guessing I'm like a slightly bigger than you, and

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<v Speaker 6>my large brooks Down sweater is like just barely smaller

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<v Speaker 6>than what I would want, So I think it would

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<v Speaker 6>fit you pretty well. Then again, I brought I mine's.

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<v Speaker 6>I think mine's like a different about mine years ago,

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<v Speaker 6>So it might be a different sort of cut or

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<v Speaker 6>something that they do now, but I would say large

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<v Speaker 6>for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>It should be about the same. Yeah, I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 4>in that same boat there, wearing large items and medium items.

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<v Speaker 4>I go big because the brooks Down you can still

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<v Speaker 4>wear it just a tad big. If it's too small,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not gonna lay under lay under it, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>so light you're not going to feel the difference if

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<v Speaker 4>you're worried about packability, the difference between a medium and

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<v Speaker 4>a large.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like to wear that. I like to wear

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<v Speaker 2>the brooks Down with like a fleece hoodie underneath.

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<v Speaker 4>So put it on over your bino harness if it's

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I like to wear with that hoodie under.

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<v Speaker 2>The first I was, I've been wearing this one a lot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got another one for like a nice looking

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<v Speaker 2>one mm hmm. And now this one's just like mucking

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<v Speaker 2>around hoodie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Mucking around right now?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be later ready, Yeah, this is my mucking around

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<v Speaker 2>herdie cool.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's do one more here, and this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like this is going to be a double

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<v Speaker 6>plug question since we just did a very practical but

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<v Speaker 6>first like question, Roe says Phil, I have a question.

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<v Speaker 6>Most weeks, they stream the live show as a podcast

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<v Speaker 6>the next day. Do y'all see that a lot? That

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<v Speaker 6>is how we see it most of the time. Row

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<v Speaker 6>like only you know, sub one thousand people will dip

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<v Speaker 6>in and out live, but then you know, it gets

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<v Speaker 6>thousands of views as it goes on, and that's only

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<v Speaker 6>on YouTube. The podcast gets tens of thousands of downloads

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<v Speaker 6>after that. So so like you're you're you're not alone.

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<v Speaker 6>But I will say, because since we don't do this enough,

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<v Speaker 6>in my opinion, we never plug our own YouTube channels

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<v Speaker 6>or the podcast one. Really we we I think we said, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>you should go subscribe to it, yeah, when it first

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Mediat podcast is it? Mediator podcast Network?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I believe so.

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<v Speaker 2>Mediator podcast Network YouTube channel. It's a separate channel from

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<v Speaker 2>the just standard Mediator channel. And you'll if you'd ever

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<v Speaker 2>wondered what Corey looks like and you don't have social media,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll want to check that out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, get up on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Get a look at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get a good look at this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You won't regret it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, He's a large, sometimes a medium sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Phil.

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<v Speaker 2>We got any more? We got any more?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how how long do you want to keep We've

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<v Speaker 3>got some more questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Track there, just some.

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<v Speaker 6>It's hard because a lot of people come in with

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<v Speaker 6>good intentions and ask pretty good questions. But it's a

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<v Speaker 6>question that we answered a week ago or a couple

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<v Speaker 6>of weeks ago, and I don't want it to be

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<v Speaker 6>too repetitive. But we can just keep digging through some

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<v Speaker 6>of these questions if you want. Some of them are

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<v Speaker 6>kind of are vague, like for some reason or for

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<v Speaker 6>examples from Jordan, we're heading to Kentucky today to hunt

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<v Speaker 6>for three days on public with no information. What is

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<v Speaker 6>the best plan to start hunting white tail deer because

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<v Speaker 6>it's kind of open ended, right like scouting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would say scout for a day and a

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<v Speaker 5>half and hunt for a day and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, that's good advice. I'd see it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Spend three days sitting in a spot where there's no deer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but if you scout, you can really narrow it in.

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<v Speaker 2>And make cute, make half your trip real productive. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great idea. That's pretty good because if you

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<v Speaker 2>double your productivity of a day and a half by

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<v Speaker 2>scouting for a day and a half, essentially get those

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<v Speaker 2>scouting hours back by the double productivity. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you get to hunt for three days and scout for

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<v Speaker 2>a day and a half because you're doubling the productivity

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<v Speaker 2>of those day and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great that pencils.

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<v Speaker 4>Out top that tip.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, here's the question for seth photography questions. Do you

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<v Speaker 6>prefer faster, lightweight prime lenses or heavier, slower zooms when

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<v Speaker 6>out in the field.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I typically go with the zooms because I can

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<v Speaker 5>cover a lot of things with just one lens. But

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<v Speaker 5>I prefer a prime mmm, specifically a fifty Wow. Primes

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<v Speaker 5>are just cooler, they look better, but you know you

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<v Speaker 5>can't always get the shot with the prime, especially in

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<v Speaker 5>hunting situations where things happen quickly, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>nice to have the range.

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<v Speaker 2>Phil, is that it?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, how we can keep going? It's your show, Randall,

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<v Speaker 6>tell me what you let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Call that it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the clock. I realize we're keeping people

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<v Speaker 2>late here. We do have one last item, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is a bit of housekeeping before we go today, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to address the elephant in the room. Next Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>is Thanksgiving Day, so none of us will be here

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<v Speaker 2>in studio for our weekly Thursday broadcast, but the show

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<v Speaker 2>must go on. So this time next week we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>airing a pre recorded podcast episode with Steve and some

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<v Speaker 2>of the crew. As always, please tune in, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you already need a break from the kitchen or your family.

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<v Speaker 2>But please know that the chat will be unsupervised, and

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<v Speaker 2>so if you have a pressing question that you'd like

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<v Speaker 2>addressed on this show.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually I need to interrupt you here. It is not

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<v Speaker 6>a radio live episode. This is a it's going to

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<v Speaker 6>it's a Meat Eater podcast episode. Crew at crew episode.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think we're going to be live streaming it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just going to drop. It's going to drop, Randal,

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<v Speaker 6>you really, yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we redo this.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you should have told me that before we went

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<v Speaker 2>We're live? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Should we just end it? Now?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Randall, if you have a problem with the way

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<v Speaker 6>I run the show back, we just I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>you to talk about it behind the mike.

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<v Speaker 3>It's embarrassing for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have a pressing question for pull it together,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a pressing question for the crew, rand

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<v Speaker 2>David until our next Meet Eater Live on December fourth, December.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a really bad look for you Thursday, December.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bad look for you. I mean no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine. I was told to wrong. I was told

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<v Speaker 2>to address this and and prepare the audience for next

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<v Speaker 2>week's schedule. But I was given incomplete information, and so

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<v Speaker 2>now I look like a fool.

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<v Speaker 6>You're right, you guys should hash this out a little later. Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>as always, you want to grab a beer after this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>As always, hot dog.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, thanks for tuning in, guys, hope you enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>the show. We'll review some of the feedback and decide

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<v Speaker 2>whether there will be another segment of Me Theater. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking it's likely. Doubtful.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's happening, but uh, appreciate you great.

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<v Speaker 2>Calls and uh and enjoy the hunting this time of year.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Thanksgiving early.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving? All right, Phil? Play the cut music